August 26, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Craig Gottwals, The Healthcare Guru, talks to Jack Armstrong!
- Craig talks some AI info and news with Jack!
- Craig covers the Ukraine/Russia conflict with Jack!
- Hooters making changes as well?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty Armstrong and Jettie
and He Armstrong and Yetty Yo yo yo, thanks for
(00:24):
joining us. Joe is in He's the Getty half of
Armstrong and Getty. Joe is in England on vacation. I
think he's gonna call in a little bit later, half
in his cups, drunk on bass ale. But we're having
a variety of guests on today to keep me sane,
including who we used to call Craig the Obamacare lawyer,
back when we're trying to work our way through what
(00:46):
the hell Obamacare was or is, which continues to be
the law of the land, right Craig. Welcome, Craig Gottwaals.
Obamacare is. It's just just became status quo as we
all predicted it would be, and and all of our
deductibles went way, way, way, way up, and we all
just accepted that that's the way they're going to be
for the rest of our lives. So that's the way
(01:06):
that turned out. Hey, I do have a quick health
related thing for you before we get into some other
stuff that you and I were texting about last night.
I got a friend who's got a pretty bad health diagnosis,
and I suggested, man, you ought to get a second opinion.
But people throw around the whole get a second opinion
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like it's easy to do. I've never actually done it.
How do you even go about doing that? Does your
insurance like you do that? What do you do? Do
you go to a completely different doctor grouper?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What is the second opinion?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, some of that's going to depend on what kind
of plan you're on, whether it's a PPO or an
HMO or like what we call an open access plan.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But what are most people let's start there. What do
most people have? Who have? People wear a company healthcare
for APO? Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. Most of
us have PPO. So if we have a PPO, how
do we get a second opinion?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The easiest way to get a second opinion in that
case would be to pick a different primary care doctor
in a different medical group and just go through the
process again, because if you stay within this through.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The whole process again, go through the whole process again,
while you're probably not feeling very good, maybe feeling terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it at that point.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So it's gonna come down to how much you trust
your doctor and the medical group, because if you stay
within the same medical group, they're going to have a
pretty strong bias to confirm what's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Already been done. Well, that exactly, that's what I want
to second.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, there's two things wrong with several things wrong with that,
And it's a tell me it's not a common phrase,
Well you should get a second opinion. People throw that
around all the time like it's an easy thing to do.
But so I'd have to go through the whole process.
Am i am? I kind of like half firing my
primary doctor I've had maybe for years, I'm probably friends
with at this point. How offended is he or she
going to be?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, most plans will have a mechanism in there for
a second opinion so that it's not so that you're
not Now if it's an HMO, which a lot of
people are on in larger cities, then kind of are
firing that doctor because you'd pick a different primary care
doctor come back to them in a future month. But
most PPOs will have a mechanism. You can do it
the other way to do it if you have a
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little bit of means at all is to go out
into the market and find a direct primary care doctor,
somebody who's left the system and sees you for like
one hundred or one hundred and twenty five dollars a
month fee. That way, you can keep doing what you're
doing with your system doctor on your planet work, for example,
But then you can spend a couple hundred dollars and
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go off to the side and see one of these
direct primary care doctors who's left the system and will
then give you a truly independent analysis that if you
have some means at all, that's what I would recommend.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, that's a little frustrating. I mean, they don't offer
that up to you, certainly after they give you a diagnosis.
And the one thing I learned nil people all this time,
The main thing I learned from when I had cancer
is there's a lot of guessing. There's way more guessing
than I ever believed was the case. And you can
talk to a couple of different people and they have
(04:11):
completely different opinions.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So well, not just cancer, I mean all these complicated.
I mean, sure, if we just start looking at autoimmune diseases,
and then the way these the new the new drugs
are affecting that. It's it's you know, because of what
I do. I have a lot of good friendships with doctors,
and it's shocking how you can talk to two very
well respected doctors that have been doing this for decades
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and they'll have incredibly different opinions on how you should
treat X, Y or Z, especially when we get to
like autoimmune or even cancer YEP.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I have that exact situation with my son where they
I have two PhD level, been around forever people with
almost one hundred and eighty degree apart opinions, And what
am I supposed to do with that information? Anyway? That's
enough of that health stuff for now, So this is interesting.
So we talked to I know your friends Tim Sanderfer.
We had Tim the lawyer on Last Hour, and we
(05:03):
were talking about AI and all the different sort of stuff.
And I'm fascinated by AI and I read lots of
books and listen to a lot of podcasts because I
think it's I think it's going to be a really
big deal. I don't know if it's going to be
as big as fire, Like the guy from Google says
to mankind, the invention of fire but I mean, if
if it's half that, it would be shockingly huge. A
(05:28):
lot of people are worried about AI taken so many jobs.
We're gonna have to come up with some sort of
guaranteed income thing to pay people to stay home and
play the flute because there just aren't going to be
enough jobs. AI is going to take it over. Tim says,
this is going to be like every other technology that's
come along. It's going to develop all kinds of new
jobs that you've never even thought of yet. It'll take
care of itself. The cotton gin didn't eliminate all farm workers.
(05:52):
It started all kinds of other different things, and you
end up with more jobs. Where are you on that question?
Because Tim Tim Tim thinks now that he's not worried
about it. I am. I think it's going to destroy
the entire world. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I fall much closer to Tim it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I hope you're both right.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm using it. I'm using it every day at work.
In fact, everybody in my office is. We're using it regularly.
And what it's done is it's allowed me to just
become so much more efficient with not wasting a lot
of time on some of the more menial tasks that
I don't want to have to burn time on. I
can use AI to standardize and templatize a lot of
the things that i'm doing quickly. I'll give you an example, Jack,
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because you know I'm a lawyer and I'm reviewing healthcare contracts.
Just recently, I took six different Pharmacy Benefit Manager PBM contracts.
So it's the part of your health plan that deals
with all the drugs. Six different contracts. All of them
were between fifty and one hundred pages. I uploaded all
of them into chatch GPT, I said, and then I
gave it like a whole page of instruction on what
I wanted. I wanted to compare and contrast this. I
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wanted to know the weaknesses and strengths. I wanted to
know where I could find a B and C and
D in each contract, and I wanted it to put
it all in a grid for me.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So it did.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Within like ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I had this unbelievable chart that it spit back to me,
where then I could go back and just hit the
highlights of the contracts in my review. Now, where that
would be devastating is if you had zero idea what
you were doing if you weren't a healthcare attorney, for example,
and you didn't know where it was wrong. Because it's wrong,
as you guys have reported, it's wrong a good clip
of the time. It'll make things up or it'll have
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something totally off. But when you're already an expert in
an area to take care. I mean, it saved me
four hours doing what it did, and then I could
just spend one hour fine tuning it and making it
exactly what I needed to see from my clients.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But you do have the problems of hallucinations or whatever.
It just makes stuff up.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Now, then absolutely, yeah, you have to watch it. What
I tell my coworkers is when it tells you something
that you think is just maybe not quite right, you
have to tell it give me a source for that,
and then you have to hit that source and you
have to go look at it because it will get.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Things completely wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I've read the stats that say fifty percent of the time.
I think that's too high, but I see it getting
things wrong twenty percent of the time anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Really, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, Well, it sends you to a link that doesn't exist,
or it just says something that's not right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, So I asked a lot of questions that I
have no expertise in, and so it could maybe it's
lied to me way more often than I realize, and
then I probably repeated on the radio. But I'm I'm
I've mentioned this a thousand times. I'm reading the book
Ulysses by James Joyce. I'm trying to fight my way
through that book. And I've been using chat GBT when
I get stuck on something. But I had one the
other day where it was just I knew it was
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completely wrong, like just as wrong as wrong could be,
And I wonder how often that happens. I asked a
question yesterday about taking zinc when you got a cold,
and the information it spit out for me for different
ages and different studies and stuff like that, as far
as I know, was absolutely fascinating and so fast. So
which you mentioned chat GPT several times. There's a whole
bunch of AI apps or programs or whatever you can
(08:57):
call them chatbots out there. How many of them are
you using?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, so I'm using I'm using an upgraded version of
chat GPT that I've paid for and I've trained with
a lot of what I do for healthcare law.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do you think the paid for one is Do you
think the paid one paid for one is worth it
for the average person or only if you have an
expertise in something.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think if you're using it for work, the paid
for one is worth it. I mean if you're just
using it for for fun and for social you know,
I don't think you need to pay for it, but
I lean on it pretty heavily at times and chat.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
GPT seems to.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Be the best one for like legal analysis and writing
and writing templates when I have to when I start
working with Excel spreadsheets, for example, when I want to
compare large Excel spreadsheets and I want to I want
to have AI shortcut some of that for me, I
find that Gemini Google's seems to be the best one
for me in that lane.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And then the other thing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That we use a lot at work because we do
a lot of presentations for clients and a lot of
visual stuff. Will use mid Journey to create art and imagery,
which is I think the industry leader easily for you know,
creating those pictures in those and those slides that are.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh so if you want to do it really you
want to do images and stuff you like mid Journey,
which I'd never even heard of.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Mid Journey.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, mid Journey's amazing. And I actually learned that an
artist friend of mine in the Bay Area who said,
that's the only one artists you're using is mid Journey?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Jar that, Katie, because I know you do a lot
of that. That's a good one. Mid Journey is that?
And is that just something like I can put on
my phone getting.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That, Yeah, it's just a weblink or there's probably an app,
but I just I just hit it on a on a.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
On a web page browser.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And I actually do pay for the upgraded version of
that one as well, because we we hit it a
lot for creating. You know, you see a presentation at
your job, right and you get so sick of seeing
the same clip art over and over.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, we'll just use mid Journey to create unique art.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That way, I know that when I'm giving a presentation
to a client, they've never seen this imagery before. It's
not you know, some stock imagery, but that Journey. We
hit it, but use a free version of it as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Mid Journey. I'm looking for it, Okay, I haven't missed
around with Google Gemini. I need to do that just
because I know they're pouring so many billions of dollars
into that sort of thing, because there's a big belief
among Eli and Eli, Elon and Google and you know
a couple of different people that whoever emerges as the leader,
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there's trillions of dollars involved in that, and it's worth
trying to be the best. So I need to figure
out what Gemini is up to. We'll talk more with
Craig here in just a little bit about a bunch
of different things. He's got some strong opinions on the
war in Ukraine that I think are going to be
a lot closer to a lot of you our listeners
than I have been on Ukraine. So we'll get to
that among other things coming up in just a little bit.
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Speaker 3 (13:12):
A hold of you?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The easiest way probably Gottwalls dot substack dot com.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, cool, we're just talking about AI and want to
finish up that conversation. Uh, because I'm fascinated by it,
and man, if you're not brushing up against it yet,
you will be. So I suggest get on the front
end of checking some of this stuff out. But I
was talking to a teacher, my next door neighbor. She
teaches ninth grade English, and I asked her about AI,
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and I can tell her eyes lit up and she
kind of rolled her eyes, like, oh, yeah, it's really
hard now to figure out if a kid wrote his
paper and all this different sort of stuff. I know
you've taught college classes in the past working with people.
How do you is there is there a way to
tell if something's AI or if some it's actually a
human beings work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, it's becoming it's becoming increasingly easy to tell honestly,
because I use it so much. I can see how
it writes, and I see how it works.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It does things.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Katie mentioned one earlier in the week, or maybe it
was last week, the long dash, the ridiculously long dash
that none of us ever grew up using.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But AI uses like it's going out of style.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
True, And it's not just like I'm typing, I put
a dash, and I keep typing and it puts a
little dash in there. No, it's a it's a dash
that goes all the way from one word to the next.
If you see that in a response that you get,
you know that was written by AI.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's true. I'm looking at Yeah, I'm looking at my
chat GPT question about I was getting getting seasick on
my sailing lessons and asking about what medicine is the
best for that. Yeah, and all the answers really long
dashes in there.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Okay, a ton of them too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And I've even I've even gone into AI. Remember, I've
got the upgraded version that I've trained, and I've said
stop using that. I don't write that way. I've routed
it back to all of my articles that I've written
and said, this is how I write write this way,
don't use those dashes, and for whatever reason, I can't
get it to stop doing that. So I don't know
how how smart AI is when when that's our reality
right right. The other one is emojis gone wild. It
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will it will put so many emojis in a response
a lot of times, especially people that are using it
to put up posts on like LinkedIn or Instagram or whatever.
You'll see just way too many emojis and all these
like crazy emojis that humans don't ever use.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's just it's a total tell that it's a hi.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And then the last one and this is a simple one.
But if you have it write memo or if you
have it write like a formal letter, it puts lines,
like actual lines between the sections. And so sometimes I'll
get something from somebody that's got the lines in it still,
and I'm like, dude, you didn't even bother to delete
the lines out of this pure AI that you just
regurgitated back at me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So a lot and then.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A lot of LinkedIn is AI you tell me, yeah,
fifty And this was according to a studied I'm back
in October.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I swear to god, it's higher now.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Fifty four percent of everything on LinkedIn is AI generated. Wow,
even this is my favorite. There's a few attorneys that
I like and I follow on LinkedIn that we share ideas.
One of them has in their bio one hundred percent
non AI generated. So I'm reading one of I won't
even say the gender. I'm reading one of their posts
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the other day and it says and I'm reading it,
and I'm going, this is AI. I can tell by
the the all the little catchphrases it uses all the
all the you know, here's the deal, and all the
kind of almost like the bidenisms that it throws us
out there, and I'm like, this is AI.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So then here's another trick you can use.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go to Google and just type in AI detection tool
and you'll be able to pull up, you know, dozens
of different websites where you copy the text, paste it in,
and then it'll tell you, with pretty good likelihood what
percentage of that text generated was AI. So this is
what university professors are using and high school teachers are
using to detect it because it has all these tells
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in it that you just get used to over time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not smart enough or I haven't spent enough time
with it to pick it up in print. But I
feel like I can tell an AI image immediately. They're
just too something, They're too something, they're too perfect. There's
no human being that looks like that.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The other tell this is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So we had a college intern working with us this
summer and she was shadowing me for a couple of weeks.
She told me it's so prevalent in her university that
she will purposefully submit papers with five or six grammatical
errors in them because she does not want to even
come close to getting accused of using AI to write
her papers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ah wow, So you get AI to write a paper
for you, then you go back in and put in
some grammatical errors, and that's who you trick, your teacher. Okay,
I do want to get to that Russia Ukraine stuff
in just a second. There was I think a fair
amount of movement that on that on Sunday with Lavrov
on one of the talk we'll play you what he
had to say and then discuss how much we should
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get into this war or not. If you miss the
segment Orn Hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
No should know by now that never ever Russia deliberately
targeted any sites which are not linked to military abilities
of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So that's Sergei Lavrov. He's the spokeshole for Vladimir Putin,
has been for many, many years. He's a well, I
was going to say he's a paid liar. He is.
He is also in the situation that if he didn't
lie properly for Putin, he would get he would fall
out of a window all of a sudden, and his
whole family would probably be killed. So that's a pretty
big motivator to get out there and lie too. He's
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pretty good at it anyway. He was on Meet the
Press on Sunday. Kristen Welker, the host, brought up the
fact that Russia regularly targets civilians. He says they did not,
and they went further with that conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Russia has hit maternity wards, churches, schools, hospitals at kindergarten
just this past week. So either the Russian military has
terrible aim or you are targeting civilians, which is it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Look NBC is a very respectful structure, and I hope
you are responsible for the words which you broadcast. I
asked you to send us or to publicize the information
to which you just referred, because we never targeted the
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civilian targets of the kind you.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cited, So obviously that's a load of crap. But he's
able to say, look, NBC is a very respected news organization.
If you have the proof, send it to me. There
would be no proof you could send to him that
would satisfy him. And it's not like Putin just emerged
on the scene. Not only is he doing it in Ukraine,
he helped Bashar al Asad do it in Syria, you know,
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bombing the hell out of civilians, Carolyn one, hundreds of
thousands of their own people to try and stay in
power there. He blew up all those people in his
own country, in his own hotel, his own Russian citizens.
He blew up in a hotel to make it look
like the Chechens had attacked, so he had a reason
to go into Chechnya. I mean, he's an evil guy.
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He's willing to do anything which leads us to this.
So we have Craig Gottwalds joining us today 'SU lyon
talking about healthcare. But I wanted to talk to Craig
about the Russia Ukraine situation, because he's closer to where
a lot of you are on your opinions about US
involvement in Ukraine. Joe and I are pretty big cheerleaders
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for arming the Ukrainians and pushing back hard and all
that sort of stuff. Craig is not so. I don't
know if you were listening earlier, Craig when we had
justin logo on from Cato. He is closer to you
with a pretty cold eyed reality look at the whole thing.
What is your position on Russia Ukraine?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, this is one I I just I haven't changed
my opinion on this since day one of the war.
And I just look at this and think, well, this
is unfortunate. I don't like it, I don't support it.
But the reality is you've got a giant nuclear power,
one of the three largest powers on the planet, that's
gonna that's gonna do whatever they want to do, and
they're gonna they're gonna take over U one of their
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former client states, and we're not gonna do anything about it,
whether it's China, whether it's America, if if, if might
makes right and if in and then the world of
war if we have the might and we have the
manpower and we're willing to do whatever it takes. Like
for I think about it this way, Like imagine Northern
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Mexico got so out of control with cartel behavior flowing
into us, and we just decided, look, we got to
go in and fix it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm not saying what Russia's saying is right. I'm just saying,
if we decided we needed to go into northern Mexico,
how would we like it if all of a sudden,
China and Russia we're funding the Mexicans with arms and
with munitions. We wouldn't like it at all. We'd say,
stay out of our neighborhood. This is our world, this
is what we do. We're the world power. Back off
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unless you're willing to come here and fight us one
on one. And I just feel like all we're doing
in Ukraine is prolonging the blood bath. We're making it
so that they lose a little more slowly and that
more people die. And the quote from Marco Rubio you
guys had a week or so ago, I thought was phenomenal.
It's a meat grinder, and all we're doing is making
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it so that we can prolong the meat grinding, and
Russia's going to win because they have what it was
like a seven or a ten to one advantage in manpower.
And then on top of all that, even if somehow,
some way we were to arm Ukraine enough that Ukraine
could push him back a little, I think Putin's actually
shown restraint by not using a tactical nuke or really
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even waving that flag around, because you know what he
has it and ultimately I view war as might makes right.
So unless we're willing to go stand there and fight
against them, I just think all we're doing is playing games.
We're depleting our own weaponry, and we're not doing any
favors to the world. Now I realize your comeback, Jack
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is going to be so you just let Putin take it.
And the answer is yep. You let him take as
much as he's going to take. And once he's taken
enough that we say we're willing to go send our
kids over to fight, that's when it'll stop.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah. That was my response to Justin logan from Cato
earlier this morning, And if you didn't hear that, that
was our one and you can find the podcast Armstrong
and Getty on demand. But I said, so, won't this
set up a situation if Putin gets away with it,
using my finger quotes, get us away with that where
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China will decide, well we get to take Taiwana or
any other bigger country gets to take it. And he said, well,
that's the history of the world. It's always been that way.
It's only this tiny it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Anything about it.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's only this tiny blip of recent history where that
hasn't been going on because the United States and the
Soviet Union at the time were so big and powerful
they stot and nobody did anything without their approval really
in their own spheres. But and then the Cold War ended,
and we were the lone superpower for really the blink
(24:33):
of an eye. And now we're back to, you know,
a uni unit more than a unipower world. There are
a couple of different powers in the world. And that's
just the way it's always been and it's always going
to be and there's really not much you can do
about it. That's hard to argue with that. I don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I just I think the phrase I used with you
and Joe the other day was just radical pragmatism, Like
what's I've ever since this thing started, I never was
emotional about it. I've always just thought, well, what's the end. Well,
the end is Putin's gonna take whatever he wants because
we're not going to go fight, and if we're not
going to go fight, he's going to win. I mean
that's just the I just don't know anyway around that.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, it's hard to not be emotional about it, obviously,
if you, you know, you watch the news and you
hear from some of these Ukrainians who are who are
literally fighting to save their families. I mean, because their
children might be rounded up and taken away from mom
to Russia, never to be seen again. Mom might be
raped or killed. I mean, it's it's a pretty hard
not to get emotional about it. But uh, you get
(25:37):
as emotional as you want. But if you're not going
to give him the arms or the troops or whatever
it would take to win, there's no stopping them.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And I don't think I don't think the arm. I
think the arms is a red herring.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think all we're doing with the arms is prolonging
the pain in the agony because we're not going to
give them nukes, right, So, ultimately Putin has nukes and
he'd be willing to use them because he's that crazy,
I think, So what the hell are we doing? Like
this is to me, what we're doing is dangerous and
scary because ultimately he has nukes and he would be
willing to use him. Yeah, so what are we even
(26:10):
doing giving him arms?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
When we were talking to Mike Lyons, our favorite military
guy yesterday, he seemed to think he wouldn't be very
surprised if Putin somepoint uses a tactical nuke on one
of those cities, kills like ten thousand people in one
you know, a little shot of a small nuke, just
to let everybody know, Hey, I'm serious about this. And
he thinks the world would probably back off, the world
(26:32):
would not say, Okay, we're at war now, NATO's not
going to go to war to.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Nuclear war over that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean that's and that's now today. And I respect
Mike Lyons's opinion a lot on these matters, obviously, And
that's today. That's what Putin basically winning and getting everything
he wants right now. Imagine if somehow, someway we gave
enough that somehow Putin got pushed back, and we had
Ukrainians moving into Moscow. Come on, what's going to happen?
Then then he's really going to use a nuke, and
(26:57):
then we've really done it. I just I've never understood
the idea that we can prolong this war enough that Ukrainian,
the Ukrainian people can somehow win.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I just I've just never gotten it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, So I always think about China and Taiwan whenever
we're having this conversation, and there's there's a quote that
I don't know if it's been verified or not, but
apparently Trump said at some point to someone, if China
decides they're gonna take Taiwan, They're gonna take Taiwan. Because
I think it's a similar situation. Are we gonna go
to war with China over that?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Or not?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No? No it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think if we tried to take Mexico, we would
take Mexico. I just think it's the same, like, no
one's gonna stop us. If we wanted to take Mexico, Yeah,
we would take a black eye. The liberals would scream
about it, but it's it's not gonna stop it. I just, yeah,
I feel the same way I just I have family
friends that just the grandparents just moved back to Taiwan,
and I said, man, aren't they worried? And the response was,
(27:54):
they're eighty five, they're not too You know, if they
get taken over by China at this point, you know
they're gonna ride it out that way. But I feel
the same way. I just think Taiwan is there. We're
not going to go to war over Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We're just not.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, it's gonna be a much different world in the
near future because of China controls that entire chunk of
the ocean, the free sea lanes of the world that
we have uh kept for eighty years. That'll be the
end of that. But like the guy from Cato said,
this was a blip in time. The history of the
world is more like what's coming and what has been.
(28:30):
That's really interesting stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Warfare has always been about. Miight makes right. It's just yeah,
that is.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That is, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I don't I don't have a I don't have a
counter to that. At this point, I could see where
Europe might decide it's there and there. They didn't and
they're not going to I mean, if they were going
to you would have thought they would have earlier. I
could see how Europe, since it's their own damn backyard,
would decide we're gonna put up quite a fight here.
But they didn't. I mean, I mean, and they were
willing to continue to I mean, we canceled the nord
(29:01):
Stream pipeline.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
The uh.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Germany was all for continuing to buy natural gas from
Russia after the war started. So yeah, that's just the
reality of the world. I may have moved on this topic,
it took me three years to get shocking. It's I
can't I can't believe how long it's gone on again.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think it's restraint of Putin that's allowed to even
go on this long, because I think he probably could
have won this thing earlier had he been even more
brutal and violent. And you know, the guy, the guy
is a he's a lizard, he's a shark. He I
think he's played this thing just about perfectly. And I
can't I can't even fathom when we get these hot
mic moments of Trump saying to Macrone, I think he
(29:47):
wants to do a deal for me. I mean, come on,
it's Trump dealing with this is better than Biden, but
not a whole hell of a lot better. After I
hear things like that, well, well that's one of the
reasons I wanted to have you on was talk about
that to get that point of view on and I
may I may be convinced at this point. Hey, Craig, Gotwalls.
Appreciate your time today on all these different topics. You're
(30:08):
a smart guy and like hearing what you have to
talk about. And again, if somebody has healthcare questions, you
run a business, you need advice, how do they get
a hold of you?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
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So the Cracker Barrel remodeled, getting so much damn attention.
Of course, Hooters is trying to make a big push
for a comeback with like a new vibe Hooters of
all places, but a lot of the way stay here arms.
The Oakland A's baseball team now plays in Sacramento, California.
(31:49):
That's where this radio show is based. Actually they play
in Westsak, which is its own individual town West Sacramento anyway,
So it's been very exciting that this major league baseball
team is playing this tiny minor league park, and so
you can go to these major League baseball games and
the worst seat there is quite possibly the best seat
(32:11):
you've ever had in a major League baseball game. I mean,
it's that much smaller than a major league baseball parkt
what does it seat, like eleven thousand or nine thousand
or stuff like that as opposed to fifty five thousand
if you go to a regular But they beat Detroit
last night. Yeah, it's on one game, doesn't really matter.
The A's are in last place. But so it made
(32:32):
me look up the where the baseball season is currently.
I'm not a hardcore fan. I will watch when the
playoffs start. They're about one hundred and thirty games in.
They play one hundred and sixty two per year, so
we've got about thirty games left. Do you know what
team has the best record in all of Major League Baseball?
It's the Milwaukee Brewers with eighty two wins in the
(32:53):
National League. They've won seven more games than the LA Dodgers,
who have a payroll of about nine Quinn trillion dollars
and have tried to buy every All Star that exists
in the entire sport. So the Brewers are way ahead
of the Dodgers in terms of a record. So that
is going to be a fun one to watch. They
might be on a collision course, the Dodgers and the Brewers,
and perhaps the pottery is also in the Phillies. But
(33:16):
would love to see the Dodgers Brewers man. You talk
about a tiny market against the biggest of big dogs. Yeah,
that would be pretty fun. Different story. We've been a
lot of talk about Cracker Barrel in their remodel, which
I don't like, the looks of the new insides, if
that's actually going to happen, and whether or not it's
woke or not, and all that different sort of stuff.
(33:37):
What do you call that kind of dining? There's a
name for it. Is it comfort food or I don't know,
I don't know why you call the place like your Applebee's,
your Chili's, your cracker barrels. They're not fast food. There's
a name for it. This is chain restaurants. Yeah, they're chains,
but there's a name for that kind of dining anyway,
(33:59):
you know, it's it's obviously a way a step ahead
above fast food, but it's certainly not fancy by any means.
Is Hooters? I think Hooters is one of those too,
But yeahs obviously had its own brand for the chicks
wearing those ridiculous outfits. I mean, they're just stupid looking outfits.
I don't care how hot you are, it's still a
(34:20):
stupid looking outfit.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Apparently it's referred to as casual dining.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think it's casual fast or some people call it
brass and glass, but.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yeah, Hooters totally falls into that with their raunchy outfits.
So they were calling it a breastrant by the way.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, and we've never quite understood the hubbub over Hooters
because it's a sports bar with young attractive women wearing
shorts and tank tops. You know what other sports bars
are out like that? Every single one of them in
the country is like that. Young attractive women usually barked
in there because they make good tips and they wear
(35:00):
shorts and tak tops. So I know Hooters is nothing
different than that. But anyway, apparently there's a I don't
know anything about the Hooters business model, don't quote me
onto this, I don't care, but they were going out
of business, or one section of them was going out
of business, or fifty locations I know were bankrupt. And
they're so they're trying to come up with a rebrand
where perhaps the girls wear longer orange shorts but still
(35:23):
the tank tops. But according to their website, they're still
looking for servers who will maintain a glamorous hairstyle and
have the ability to maintain attractive an attractive fit image.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Oh oh, there's the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So I don't know. We were talking with Tim the
lawyer about this earlier where this moving company might be
in trouble because they only hire young, strong men to
move furniture. They're not hiring a lot of sixty three
year olds with a bad back. And whether or not
that you know, is an equal employment problem or whatever,
I don't know what Hooter, what situation Hooters is in
(36:03):
If you have to have a glamorous hairstyling according to
who them, and maintain an attractive and fit image.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
See, that's where all of my red flags are going up,
because here comes the body positivity people going well, technically,
according to my doctor, I'm perfectly healthy.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I don't know how you get around that stuff. I mean,
I've known people who ran sportscar bars. I've known owners
who owned sports bars, and all the chicks at work
there were attractive and wear shorts and taktops. But I
don't think anybody said anything. I don't think it was
a rule. It's just he hired people that he thought
(36:42):
would look good and they knew what they were supposed
to wear or were perfectly happy wearing that, because that
was what's going to make the most tips. I don't
know that it had to be in writing. Hmmm, well,
we'll see if Hooter does away with those ridiculous shorts
and having them wear them. Do they still wear the Nylons?
I haven't. I think I've been in a Hooters once
in my life and I thought this is not my
kind of place. Yeah, they were the Nylons with the
(37:04):
stupid little I have not been since high school. I'm
next to a Hooters. As a drunk, I lived the
block away from a Hooters. I never went in there.
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back when we're trying to work our way through what
(00:46):
the hell Obamacare was or is, which continues to be
the law of the land, right Craig. Welcome, Craig Gottwaals.
Obamacare is. It's just just became status quo as we
all predicted it would be, and and all of our
deductibles went way, way, way, way up, and we all
just accepted that that's the way they're going to be
for the rest of our lives. So that's the way
(01:06):
that turned out. Hey, I do have a quick health
related thing for you before we get into some other
stuff that you and I were texting about last night.
I got a friend who's got a pretty bad health diagnosis,
and I suggested, man, you ought to get a second opinion.
But people throw around the whole get a second opinion
(01:28):
like it's easy to do. I've never actually done it.
How do you even go about doing that? Does your
insurance like you do that? What do you do? Do
you go to a completely different doctor grouper?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What is the second opinion?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, some of that's going to depend on what kind
of plan you're on, whether it's a PPO or an
HMO or like what we call an open access plan.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
But what are most people let's start there. What do
most people have? Who have? People wear a company healthcare
for APO? Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. Most of
us have PPO. So if we have a PPO, how
do we get a second opinion?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The easiest way to get a second opinion in that
case would be to pick a different primary care doctor
in a different medical group and just go through the
process again, because if you stay within this through.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
The whole process again, go through the whole process again,
while you're probably not feeling very good, maybe feeling terrible.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it at that point.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So it's gonna come down to how much you trust
your doctor and the medical group, because if you stay
within the same medical group, they're going to have a
pretty strong bias to confirm what's.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Already been done. Well, that exactly, that's what I want
to second.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, there's two things wrong with several things wrong with that,
And it's a tell me it's not a common phrase,
Well you should get a second opinion. People throw that
around all the time like it's an easy thing to do.
But so I'd have to go through the whole process.
Am i am? I kind of like half firing my
primary doctor I've had maybe for years, I'm probably friends
with at this point. How offended is he or she
going to be?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Well, most plans will have a mechanism in there for
a second opinion so that it's not so that you're
not Now if it's an HMO, which a lot of
people are on in larger cities, then kind of are
firing that doctor because you'd pick a different primary care
doctor come back to them in a future month. But
most PPOs will have a mechanism. You can do it
the other way to do it if you have a
(03:21):
little bit of means at all is to go out
into the market and find a direct primary care doctor,
somebody who's left the system and sees you for like
one hundred or one hundred and twenty five dollars a
month fee. That way, you can keep doing what you're
doing with your system doctor on your planet work, for example,
But then you can spend a couple hundred dollars and
(03:41):
go off to the side and see one of these
direct primary care doctors who's left the system and will
then give you a truly independent analysis that if you
have some means at all, that's what I would recommend.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Okay, that's a little frustrating. I mean, they don't offer
that up to you, certainly after they give you a diagnosis.
And the one thing I learned nil people all this time,
The main thing I learned from when I had cancer
is there's a lot of guessing. There's way more guessing
than I ever believed was the case. And you can
talk to a couple of different people and they have
(04:11):
completely different opinions.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So well, not just cancer, I mean all these complicated.
I mean, sure, if we just start looking at autoimmune diseases,
and then the way these the new the new drugs
are affecting that. It's it's you know, because of what
I do. I have a lot of good friendships with doctors,
and it's shocking how you can talk to two very
well respected doctors that have been doing this for decades
(04:34):
and they'll have incredibly different opinions on how you should
treat X, Y or Z, especially when we get to
like autoimmune or even cancer YEP.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I have that exact situation with my son where they
I have two PhD level, been around forever people with
almost one hundred and eighty degree apart opinions, And what
am I supposed to do with that information? Anyway? That's
enough of that health stuff for now, So this is interesting.
So we talked to I know your friends Tim Sanderfer.
We had Tim the lawyer on Last Hour, and we
(05:03):
were talking about AI and all the different sort of stuff.
And I'm fascinated by AI and I read lots of
books and listen to a lot of podcasts because I
think it's I think it's going to be a really
big deal. I don't know if it's going to be
as big as fire, Like the guy from Google says
to mankind, the invention of fire but I mean, if
if it's half that, it would be shockingly huge. A
(05:28):
lot of people are worried about AI taken so many jobs.
We're gonna have to come up with some sort of
guaranteed income thing to pay people to stay home and
play the flute because there just aren't going to be
enough jobs. AI is going to take it over. Tim says,
this is going to be like every other technology that's
come along. It's going to develop all kinds of new
jobs that you've never even thought of yet. It'll take
care of itself. The cotton gin didn't eliminate all farm workers.
(05:52):
It started all kinds of other different things, and you
end up with more jobs. Where are you on that question?
Because Tim Tim Tim thinks now that he's not worried
about it. I am. I think it's going to destroy
the entire world. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I fall much closer to Tim it goes.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I hope you're both right.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I'm using it. I'm using it every day at work.
In fact, everybody in my office is. We're using it regularly.
And what it's done is it's allowed me to just
become so much more efficient with not wasting a lot
of time on some of the more menial tasks that
I don't want to have to burn time on. I
can use AI to standardize and templatize a lot of
the things that i'm doing quickly. I'll give you an example, Jack,
(06:31):
because you know I'm a lawyer and I'm reviewing healthcare contracts.
Just recently, I took six different Pharmacy Benefit Manager PBM contracts.
So it's the part of your health plan that deals
with all the drugs. Six different contracts. All of them
were between fifty and one hundred pages. I uploaded all
of them into chatch GPT, I said, and then I
gave it like a whole page of instruction on what
I wanted. I wanted to compare and contrast this. I
(06:54):
wanted to know the weaknesses and strengths. I wanted to
know where I could find a B and C and
D in each contract, and I wanted it to put
it all in a grid for me.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So it did.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Within like ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I had this unbelievable chart that it spit back to me,
where then I could go back and just hit the
highlights of the contracts in my review. Now, where that
would be devastating is if you had zero idea what
you were doing if you weren't a healthcare attorney, for example,
and you didn't know where it was wrong. Because it's wrong,
as you guys have reported, it's wrong a good clip
of the time. It'll make things up or it'll have
(07:25):
something totally off. But when you're already an expert in
an area to take care. I mean, it saved me
four hours doing what it did, and then I could
just spend one hour fine tuning it and making it
exactly what I needed to see from my clients.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But you do have the problems of hallucinations or whatever.
It just makes stuff up.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Now, then absolutely, yeah, you have to watch it. What
I tell my coworkers is when it tells you something
that you think is just maybe not quite right, you
have to tell it give me a source for that,
and then you have to hit that source and you
have to go look at it because it will get.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Things completely wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I've read the stats that say fifty percent of the time.
I think that's too high, but I see it getting
things wrong twenty percent of the time anyway.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Really, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, Well, it sends you to a link that doesn't exist,
or it just says something that's not right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, So I asked a lot of questions that I
have no expertise in, and so it could maybe it's
lied to me way more often than I realize, and
then I probably repeated on the radio. But I'm I'm
I've mentioned this a thousand times. I'm reading the book
Ulysses by James Joyce. I'm trying to fight my way
through that book. And I've been using chat GBT when
I get stuck on something. But I had one the
other day where it was just I knew it was
(08:33):
completely wrong, like just as wrong as wrong could be,
And I wonder how often that happens. I asked a
question yesterday about taking zinc when you got a cold,
and the information it spit out for me for different
ages and different studies and stuff like that, as far
as I know, was absolutely fascinating and so fast. So
which you mentioned chat GPT several times. There's a whole
bunch of AI apps or programs or whatever you can
(08:57):
call them chatbots out there. How many of them are
you using?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, so I'm using I'm using an upgraded version of
chat GPT that I've paid for and I've trained with
a lot of what I do for healthcare law.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do you think the paid for one is Do you
think the paid one paid for one is worth it
for the average person or only if you have an
expertise in something.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think if you're using it for work, the paid
for one is worth it. I mean if you're just
using it for for fun and for social you know,
I don't think you need to pay for it, but
I lean on it pretty heavily at times and chat.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
GPT seems to.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Be the best one for like legal analysis and writing
and writing templates when I have to when I start
working with Excel spreadsheets, for example, when I want to
compare large Excel spreadsheets and I want to I want
to have AI shortcut some of that for me, I
find that Gemini Google's seems to be the best one
for me in that lane.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And then the other thing.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
That we use a lot at work because we do
a lot of presentations for clients and a lot of
visual stuff. Will use mid Journey to create art and imagery,
which is I think the industry leader easily for you know,
creating those pictures in those and those slides that are.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh so if you want to do it really you
want to do images and stuff you like mid Journey,
which I'd never even heard of.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Mid Journey.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, mid Journey's amazing. And I actually learned that an
artist friend of mine in the Bay Area who said,
that's the only one artists you're using is mid Journey?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Jar that, Katie, because I know you do a lot
of that. That's a good one. Mid Journey is that?
And is that just something like I can put on
my phone getting.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That, Yeah, it's just a weblink or there's probably an app,
but I just I just hit it on a on a.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
On a web page browser.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And I actually do pay for the upgraded version of
that one as well, because we we hit it a
lot for creating. You know, you see a presentation at
your job, right and you get so sick of seeing
the same clip art over and over.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, we'll just use mid Journey to create unique art.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
That way, I know that when I'm giving a presentation
to a client, they've never seen this imagery before. It's
not you know, some stock imagery, but that Journey. We
hit it, but use a free version of it as well.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Mid Journey. I'm looking for it, Okay, I haven't missed
around with Google Gemini. I need to do that just
because I know they're pouring so many billions of dollars
into that sort of thing, because there's a big belief
among Eli and Eli, Elon and Google and you know
a couple of different people that whoever emerges as the leader,
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there's trillions of dollars involved in that, and it's worth
trying to be the best. So I need to figure
out what Gemini is up to. We'll talk more with
Craig here in just a little bit about a bunch
of different things. He's got some strong opinions on the
war in Ukraine that I think are going to be
a lot closer to a lot of you our listeners
than I have been on Ukraine. So we'll get to
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Speaker 4 (12:56):
Also because it's frozen shrimp from Walmart.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Aren't you an elitist? You don't eat shrimp? From homart.
I don't need it. We're talking with Craig Gottwalls, who
is a healthcare expert. I actually we're talking about other things.
But if people want to get a hold of you,
like for some healthcare advice, how do they get.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
A hold of you?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
The easiest way probably Gottwalls dot substack dot com.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay, cool, we're just talking about AI and want to
finish up that conversation. Uh, because I'm fascinated by it,
and man, if you're not brushing up against it yet,
you will be. So I suggest get on the front
end of checking some of this stuff out. But I
was talking to a teacher, my next door neighbor. She
teaches ninth grade English, and I asked her about AI,
(13:40):
and I can tell her eyes lit up and she
kind of rolled her eyes, like, oh, yeah, it's really
hard now to figure out if a kid wrote his
paper and all this different sort of stuff. I know
you've taught college classes in the past working with people.
How do you is there is there a way to
tell if something's AI or if some it's actually a
human beings work.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, it's becoming it's becoming increasingly easy to tell honestly,
because I use it so much. I can see how
it writes, and I see how it works.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It does things.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Katie mentioned one earlier in the week, or maybe it
was last week, the long dash, the ridiculously long dash
that none of us ever grew up using.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
But AI uses like it's going out of style.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
True, And it's not just like I'm typing, I put
a dash, and I keep typing and it puts a
little dash in there. No, it's a it's a dash
that goes all the way from one word to the next.
If you see that in a response that you get,
you know that was written by AI.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's true. I'm looking at Yeah, I'm looking at my
chat GPT question about I was getting getting seasick on
my sailing lessons and asking about what medicine is the
best for that. Yeah, and all the answers really long
dashes in there.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Okay, a ton of them too.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And I've even I've even gone into AI. Remember, I've
got the upgraded version that I've trained, and I've said
stop using that. I don't write that way. I've routed
it back to all of my articles that I've written
and said, this is how I write write this way,
don't use those dashes, and for whatever reason, I can't
get it to stop doing that. So I don't know
how how smart AI is when when that's our reality
right right. The other one is emojis gone wild. It
(15:13):
will it will put so many emojis in a response
a lot of times, especially people that are using it
to put up posts on like LinkedIn or Instagram or whatever.
You'll see just way too many emojis and all these
like crazy emojis that humans don't ever use.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
It's just it's a total tell that it's a hi.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And then the last one and this is a simple one.
But if you have it write memo or if you
have it write like a formal letter, it puts lines,
like actual lines between the sections. And so sometimes I'll
get something from somebody that's got the lines in it still,
and I'm like, dude, you didn't even bother to delete
the lines out of this pure AI that you just
regurgitated back at me.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So a lot and then.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A lot of LinkedIn is AI you tell me, yeah,
fifty And this was according to a studied I'm back
in October.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I swear to god, it's higher now.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Fifty four percent of everything on LinkedIn is AI generated. Wow,
even this is my favorite. There's a few attorneys that
I like and I follow on LinkedIn that we share ideas.
One of them has in their bio one hundred percent
non AI generated. So I'm reading one of I won't
even say the gender. I'm reading one of their posts
(16:23):
the other day and it says and I'm reading it,
and I'm going, this is AI. I can tell by
the the all the little catchphrases it uses all the
all the you know, here's the deal, and all the
kind of almost like the bidenisms that it throws us
out there, and I'm like, this is AI.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So then here's another trick you can use.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go to Google and just type in AI detection tool
and you'll be able to pull up, you know, dozens
of different websites where you copy the text, paste it in,
and then it'll tell you, with pretty good likelihood what
percentage of that text generated was AI. So this is
what university professors are using and high school teachers are
using to detect it because it has all these tells
(17:00):
in it that you just get used to over time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm not smart enough or I haven't spent enough time
with it to pick it up in print. But I
feel like I can tell an AI image immediately. They're
just too something, They're too something, they're too perfect. There's
no human being that looks like that.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The other tell this is fascinating.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So we had a college intern working with us this
summer and she was shadowing me for a couple of weeks.
She told me it's so prevalent in her university that
she will purposefully submit papers with five or six grammatical
errors in them because she does not want to even
come close to getting accused of using AI to write
her papers.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Ah wow, So you get AI to write a paper
for you, then you go back in and put in
some grammatical errors, and that's who you trick, your teacher. Okay,
I do want to get to that Russia Ukraine stuff
in just a second. There was I think a fair
amount of movement that on that on Sunday with Lavrov
on one of the talk we'll play you what he
had to say and then discuss how much we should
(18:04):
get into this war or not. If you miss the
segment Orn Hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
No should know by now that never ever Russia deliberately
targeted any sites which are not linked to military abilities
of Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So that's Sergei Lavrov. He's the spokeshole for Vladimir Putin,
has been for many, many years. He's a well, I
was going to say he's a paid liar. He is.
He is also in the situation that if he didn't
lie properly for Putin, he would get he would fall
out of a window all of a sudden, and his
whole family would probably be killed. So that's a pretty
big motivator to get out there and lie too. He's
(18:49):
pretty good at it anyway. He was on Meet the
Press on Sunday. Kristen Welker, the host, brought up the
fact that Russia regularly targets civilians. He says they did not,
and they went further with that conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Russia has hit maternity wards, churches, schools, hospitals at kindergarten
just this past week. So either the Russian military has
terrible aim or you are targeting civilians, which is it.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Look NBC is a very respectful structure, and I hope
you are responsible for the words which you broadcast. I
asked you to send us or to publicize the information
to which you just referred, because we never targeted the
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civilian targets of the kind you.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cited, So obviously that's a load of crap. But he's
able to say, look, NBC is a very respected news organization.
If you have the proof, send it to me. There
would be no proof you could send to him that
would satisfy him. And it's not like Putin just emerged
on the scene. Not only is he doing it in Ukraine,
he helped Bashar al Asad do it in Syria, you know,
(20:07):
bombing the hell out of civilians, Carolyn one, hundreds of
thousands of their own people to try and stay in
power there. He blew up all those people in his
own country, in his own hotel, his own Russian citizens.
He blew up in a hotel to make it look
like the Chechens had attacked, so he had a reason
to go into Chechnya. I mean, he's an evil guy.
(20:29):
He's willing to do anything which leads us to this.
So we have Craig Gottwalds joining us today 'SU lyon
talking about healthcare. But I wanted to talk to Craig
about the Russia Ukraine situation, because he's closer to where
a lot of you are on your opinions about US
involvement in Ukraine. Joe and I are pretty big cheerleaders
(20:50):
for arming the Ukrainians and pushing back hard and all
that sort of stuff. Craig is not so. I don't
know if you were listening earlier, Craig when we had
justin logo on from Cato. He is closer to you
with a pretty cold eyed reality look at the whole thing.
What is your position on Russia Ukraine?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, this is one I I just I haven't changed
my opinion on this since day one of the war.
And I just look at this and think, well, this
is unfortunate. I don't like it, I don't support it.
But the reality is you've got a giant nuclear power,
one of the three largest powers on the planet, that's
gonna that's gonna do whatever they want to do, and
they're gonna they're gonna take over U one of their
(21:34):
former client states, and we're not gonna do anything about it,
whether it's China, whether it's America, if if, if might
makes right and if in and then the world of
war if we have the might and we have the
manpower and we're willing to do whatever it takes. Like
for I think about it this way, Like imagine Northern
(21:56):
Mexico got so out of control with cartel behavior flowing
into us, and we just decided, look, we got to
go in and fix it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I'm not saying what Russia's saying is right. I'm just saying,
if we decided we needed to go into northern Mexico,
how would we like it if all of a sudden,
China and Russia we're funding the Mexicans with arms and
with munitions. We wouldn't like it at all. We'd say,
stay out of our neighborhood. This is our world, this
is what we do. We're the world power. Back off
(22:25):
unless you're willing to come here and fight us one
on one. And I just feel like all we're doing
in Ukraine is prolonging the blood bath. We're making it
so that they lose a little more slowly and that
more people die. And the quote from Marco Rubio you
guys had a week or so ago, I thought was phenomenal.
It's a meat grinder, and all we're doing is making
(22:46):
it so that we can prolong the meat grinding, and
Russia's going to win because they have what it was
like a seven or a ten to one advantage in manpower.
And then on top of all that, even if somehow,
some way we were to arm Ukraine enough that Ukraine
could push him back a little, I think Putin's actually
shown restraint by not using a tactical nuke or really
(23:07):
even waving that flag around, because you know what he
has it and ultimately I view war as might makes right.
So unless we're willing to go stand there and fight
against them, I just think all we're doing is playing games.
We're depleting our own weaponry, and we're not doing any
favors to the world. Now I realize your comeback, Jack
(23:29):
is going to be so you just let Putin take it.
And the answer is yep. You let him take as
much as he's going to take. And once he's taken
enough that we say we're willing to go send our
kids over to fight, that's when it'll stop.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah. That was my response to Justin logan from Cato
earlier this morning, And if you didn't hear that, that
was our one and you can find the podcast Armstrong
and Getty on demand. But I said, so, won't this
set up a situation if Putin gets away with it,
using my finger quotes, get us away with that where
(24:01):
China will decide, well we get to take Taiwana or
any other bigger country gets to take it. And he said, well,
that's the history of the world. It's always been that way.
It's only this tiny it's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Anything about it.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's only this tiny blip of recent history where that
hasn't been going on because the United States and the
Soviet Union at the time were so big and powerful
they stot and nobody did anything without their approval really
in their own spheres. But and then the Cold War ended,
and we were the lone superpower for really the blink
(24:33):
of an eye. And now we're back to, you know,
a uni unit more than a unipower world. There are
a couple of different powers in the world. And that's
just the way it's always been and it's always going
to be and there's really not much you can do
about it. That's hard to argue with that. I don't
like it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I just I think the phrase I used with you
and Joe the other day was just radical pragmatism, Like
what's I've ever since this thing started, I never was
emotional about it. I've always just thought, well, what's the end. Well,
the end is Putin's gonna take whatever he wants because
we're not going to go fight, and if we're not
going to go fight, he's going to win. I mean
that's just the I just don't know anyway around that.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, it's hard to not be emotional about it, obviously,
if you, you know, you watch the news and you
hear from some of these Ukrainians who are who are
literally fighting to save their families. I mean, because their
children might be rounded up and taken away from mom
to Russia, never to be seen again. Mom might be
raped or killed. I mean, it's it's a pretty hard
not to get emotional about it. But uh, you get
(25:37):
as emotional as you want. But if you're not going
to give him the arms or the troops or whatever
it would take to win, there's no stopping them.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
And I don't think I don't think the arm. I
think the arms is a red herring.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I think all we're doing with the arms is prolonging
the pain in the agony because we're not going to
give them nukes, right, So, ultimately Putin has nukes and
he'd be willing to use them because he's that crazy,
I think, So what the hell are we doing? Like
this is to me, what we're doing is dangerous and
scary because ultimately he has nukes and he would be
willing to use him. Yeah, so what are we even
(26:10):
doing giving him arms?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
When we were talking to Mike Lyons, our favorite military
guy yesterday, he seemed to think he wouldn't be very
surprised if Putin somepoint uses a tactical nuke on one
of those cities, kills like ten thousand people in one
you know, a little shot of a small nuke, just
to let everybody know, Hey, I'm serious about this. And
he thinks the world would probably back off, the world
(26:32):
would not say, Okay, we're at war now, NATO's not
going to go to war to.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Nuclear war over that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean that's and that's now today. And I respect
Mike Lyons's opinion a lot on these matters, obviously, And
that's today. That's what Putin basically winning and getting everything
he wants right now. Imagine if somehow, someway we gave
enough that somehow Putin got pushed back, and we had
Ukrainians moving into Moscow. Come on, what's going to happen?
Then then he's really going to use a nuke, and
(26:57):
then we've really done it. I just I've never understood
the idea that we can prolong this war enough that Ukrainian,
the Ukrainian people can somehow win.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I just I've just never gotten it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Well, So I always think about China and Taiwan whenever
we're having this conversation, and there's there's a quote that
I don't know if it's been verified or not, but
apparently Trump said at some point to someone, if China
decides they're gonna take Taiwan, They're gonna take Taiwan. Because
I think it's a similar situation. Are we gonna go
to war with China over that?
Speaker 5 (27:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Or not?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
No? No it.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think if we tried to take Mexico, we would
take Mexico. I just think it's the same, like, no
one's gonna stop us. If we wanted to take Mexico, Yeah,
we would take a black eye. The liberals would scream
about it, but it's it's not gonna stop it. I just, yeah,
I feel the same way I just I have family
friends that just the grandparents just moved back to Taiwan,
and I said, man, aren't they worried? And the response was,
(27:54):
they're eighty five, they're not too You know, if they
get taken over by China at this point, you know
they're gonna ride it out that way. But I feel
the same way. I just think Taiwan is there. We're
not going to go to war over Taiwan.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
We're just not.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Well, it's gonna be a much different world in the
near future because of China controls that entire chunk of
the ocean, the free sea lanes of the world that
we have uh kept for eighty years. That'll be the
end of that. But like the guy from Cato said,
this was a blip in time. The history of the
world is more like what's coming and what has been.
(28:30):
That's really interesting stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Warfare has always been about. Miight makes right. It's just yeah,
that is.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That is, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I don't I don't have a I don't have a
counter to that. At this point, I could see where
Europe might decide it's there and there. They didn't and
they're not going to I mean, if they were going
to you would have thought they would have earlier. I
could see how Europe, since it's their own damn backyard,
would decide we're gonna put up quite a fight here.
But they didn't. I mean, I mean, and they were
willing to continue to I mean, we canceled the nord
(29:01):
Stream pipeline.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
The uh.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Germany was all for continuing to buy natural gas from
Russia after the war started. So yeah, that's just the
reality of the world. I may have moved on this topic,
it took me three years to get shocking. It's I
can't I can't believe how long it's gone on again.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Again.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think it's restraint of Putin that's allowed to even
go on this long, because I think he probably could
have won this thing earlier had he been even more
brutal and violent. And you know, the guy, the guy
is a he's a lizard, he's a shark. He I
think he's played this thing just about perfectly. And I
can't I can't even fathom when we get these hot
mic moments of Trump saying to Macrone, I think he
(29:47):
wants to do a deal for me. I mean, come on,
it's Trump dealing with this is better than Biden, but
not a whole hell of a lot better. After I
hear things like that, well, well that's one of the
reasons I wanted to have you on was talk about
that to get that point of view on and I
may I may be convinced at this point. Hey, Craig, Gotwalls.
Appreciate your time today on all these different topics. You're
(30:08):
a smart guy and like hearing what you have to
talk about. And again, if somebody has healthcare questions, you
run a business, you need advice, how do they get
a hold of you?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Got Walls, two t's one l dot substack dot com.
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So the Cracker Barrel remodeled, getting so much damn attention.
Of course, Hooters is trying to make a big push
for a comeback with like a new vibe Hooters of
all places, but a lot of the way stay here arms.
The Oakland A's baseball team now plays in Sacramento, California.
(31:49):
That's where this radio show is based. Actually they play
in Westsak, which is its own individual town West Sacramento anyway,
So it's been very exciting that this major league baseball
team is playing this tiny minor league park, and so
you can go to these major League baseball games and
the worst seat there is quite possibly the best seat
(32:11):
you've ever had in a major League baseball game. I mean,
it's that much smaller than a major league baseball parkt
what does it seat, like eleven thousand or nine thousand
or stuff like that as opposed to fifty five thousand
if you go to a regular But they beat Detroit
last night. Yeah, it's on one game, doesn't really matter.
The A's are in last place. But so it made
(32:32):
me look up the where the baseball season is currently.
I'm not a hardcore fan. I will watch when the
playoffs start. They're about one hundred and thirty games in.
They play one hundred and sixty two per year, so
we've got about thirty games left. Do you know what
team has the best record in all of Major League Baseball?
It's the Milwaukee Brewers with eighty two wins in the
(32:53):
National League. They've won seven more games than the LA Dodgers,
who have a payroll of about nine Quinn trillion dollars
and have tried to buy every All Star that exists
in the entire sport. So the Brewers are way ahead
of the Dodgers in terms of a record. So that
is going to be a fun one to watch. They
might be on a collision course, the Dodgers and the Brewers,
and perhaps the pottery is also in the Phillies. But
(33:16):
would love to see the Dodgers Brewers man. You talk
about a tiny market against the biggest of big dogs. Yeah,
that would be pretty fun. Different story. We've been a
lot of talk about Cracker Barrel in their remodel, which
I don't like, the looks of the new insides, if
that's actually going to happen, and whether or not it's
woke or not, and all that different sort of stuff.
(33:37):
What do you call that kind of dining? There's a
name for it. Is it comfort food or I don't know,
I don't know why you call the place like your Applebee's,
your Chili's, your cracker barrels. They're not fast food. There's
a name for it. This is chain restaurants. Yeah, they're chains,
but there's a name for that kind of dining anyway,
(33:59):
you know, it's it's obviously a way a step ahead
above fast food, but it's certainly not fancy by any means.
Is Hooters? I think Hooters is one of those too,
But yeahs obviously had its own brand for the chicks
wearing those ridiculous outfits. I mean, they're just stupid looking outfits.
I don't care how hot you are, it's still a
(34:20):
stupid looking outfit.
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Apparently it's referred to as casual dining.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I think it's casual fast or some people call it
brass and glass, but.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Yeah, Hooters totally falls into that with their raunchy outfits.
So they were calling it a breastrant by the way.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, and we've never quite understood the hubbub over Hooters
because it's a sports bar with young attractive women wearing
shorts and tank tops. You know what other sports bars
are out like that? Every single one of them in
the country is like that. Young attractive women usually barked
in there because they make good tips and they wear
(35:00):
shorts and tak tops. So I know Hooters is nothing
different than that. But anyway, apparently there's a I don't
know anything about the Hooters business model, don't quote me
onto this, I don't care, but they were going out
of business, or one section of them was going out
of business, or fifty locations I know were bankrupt. And
they're so they're trying to come up with a rebrand
where perhaps the girls wear longer orange shorts but still
(35:23):
the tank tops. But according to their website, they're still
looking for servers who will maintain a glamorous hairstyle and
have the ability to maintain attractive an attractive fit image.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Oh oh, there's the problem right there.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So I don't know. We were talking with Tim the
lawyer about this earlier where this moving company might be
in trouble because they only hire young, strong men to
move furniture. They're not hiring a lot of sixty three
year olds with a bad back. And whether or not
that you know, is an equal employment problem or whatever,
I don't know what Hooter, what situation Hooters is in
(36:03):
If you have to have a glamorous hairstyling according to
who them, and maintain an attractive and fit image.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
See, that's where all of my red flags are going up,
because here comes the body positivity people going well, technically,
according to my doctor, I'm perfectly healthy.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I don't know how you get around that stuff. I mean,
I've known people who ran sportscar bars. I've known owners
who owned sports bars, and all the chicks at work
there were attractive and wear shorts and taktops. But I
don't think anybody said anything. I don't think it was
a rule. It's just he hired people that he thought
(36:42):
would look good and they knew what they were supposed
to wear or were perfectly happy wearing that, because that
was what's going to make the most tips. I don't
know that it had to be in writing. Hmmm, well,
we'll see if Hooter does away with those ridiculous shorts
and having them wear them. Do they still wear the Nylons?
I haven't. I think I've been in a Hooters once
in my life and I thought this is not my
kind of place. Yeah, they were the Nylons with the
(37:04):
stupid little I have not been since high school. I'm
next to a Hooters. As a drunk, I lived the
block away from a Hooters. I never went in there.
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