February 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- Joe explodes & how woke can Hollywood get?
- Men are still in women's sports despite Trump's EO
- Elon on cutting the waste
- Bingo, Bango, Bongo
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yeddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
To the extent that the White House said that Ukraine
started the war, I disagree. I think Vladim repute started
the war. I also believe, through bitter experience, that Vladim
Reputin is a gangster. He's a gangster with a black hawk.
He makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Mother Krusha.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
He has Stalin's taste for blood. And as I've said
in another context, I wouldn't I trust this guy like
I trust gas Station's sousal.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Just he's kind of making a good, serious point.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's got to Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
My braind is throwing in a clever little shay, and
so let me just undermine my perfectly reasonable point of
view by making some idiotic, effing metaphor.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'll tell you what. That cabride was.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Longer than the ball constrictors and swallowed a wire and
plugged its wine into a two twenty outletder.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now just say it was song. Just say it was
a hog ride. No stupid metaphors. God, when's he up
for reelection? I was running against him? Was donating? Was
I right? Michael? I told you, I told Hanson and
Michael I said, we're gonna come back with this clip.
It'll wind up Joe and then we'll just let him
go for a while and then we'll move on by
(01:49):
this stuff. I'm done, yes, Katie. So while Joe catches
his breath as a man who trusts gas station sushi, Jack,
what did you think about this? That was a little hurtful?
There he is on TV again. You know why he
does that? Because he gets on TV. The reason he's
on I'm looking at CBS. The reason they have him
on there right now is because he's making his mother sushi,
(02:10):
gas station Teresa whatever clip.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I wonder if behind the scenes he's just a completely
serious man.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I wonder too, maybe maybe. So there's that we're going
to talk a little more about Ukraine and Putin and
all that coming up. And I think a lot of
your high ranking Republicans are trying to figure out how
do we deal with this because a number of them
don't agree at all. You know who disagrees with Thrump's
been saying the most Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. He
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hasn't uttered a word about it. But I've been listening
to him for the last three years on all the
Sunday shows. I know what he thinks of this. He
thinks it's one hundred percent in the United States interest
to show Putin, Russia and the rest of the world
you can't get away with this, and that Putin's an
evil gangster and that, and obviously he doesn't feel like
Ukraine caused the war or Zelensky's in it for the money.
(03:03):
So how long he keeps his mouth shut about this,
I don't know. That's gonna be interesting to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, and again, my great worry, or it's not even
a worry. It's a certainty that the great things Trump
is doing will soon be derailed by the nutty things
he's doing and saying.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And it's a damn shame. Yeah. If there's some clever,
three dimensional chess thing going on here that's going to
turn out good for America, maybe that, you know. I
don't see what it is, but maybe it's there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I tell you what, I've been in businesses, I've been
in relationships, I've been in rock and roll bands, I've
been in sports teams that felt like they were heading
toward the rocks, and I got that feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now it's get too bad. Good stuff done as we can. Yeah,
it's too bad because all of the you know, we
were reading from Rich Lowry's piece in The Natural Review
last week that it was the best three weeks for
conservatives in the culture war in a half a century. Yep,
the first the first three weeks of the Trump administration.
And that continues. And the dog stuff. I love the
(04:10):
focus on cutting government and blah blah blah, all this
energy policy, the border, it's all sat god. The immigration stuff. Yeah,
no kidding. By the way, Seapack is going on and
jd Vance is about to speak. Is Seapack in league
with the Westminster Dog Show? And something that used to
happen once a year is now.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Every three weeks it seems like it. Or is that
just because I'm old? It's like dancing with the stars. Now,
wait a minute, didn't they just start a season when
you're old? Annual things seem to happen every three weeks?
I guess that's just the way that is. From the
stupid file, I was looking up at the television and
(04:51):
they're making a very big deal out of it, with
oscars coming up here soon. Gender parody reached across the
top one hundred grossing films of twenty twenty four. It's
the first time in movie history gender parody and they're
going big on that, like that's really important.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The hell are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We got the same number of lead roles for women
as for men for the first time ever, apparently protagonists
and in various films. Okay, great, buck hey, great on
the forcing certain genders into art seems odd, but whatever,
(05:31):
it's to make money and which is leading me to this.
We're gonna have Tom Cotton on for a podcast soon.
He's got a new book out. He's a senator hawk,
especially a hawk on China with his new book Seven
Things You Can't Say About China. And I've listened to
several interviews with him already, and one of them that
he brings up is Hollywood and the way they rolled
(05:54):
over for China, and he uses a whole bunch of examples,
but he said, have you ever seen anybody Chinese is
the bad guy in a movie? There are number one
full you do any polling of Americans, Our number one
enemy in the world is China by far, and Americans
get that and know that when when Joe and I
were young a long time ago, when we were in
(06:16):
a Cold War with the Soviet Union, the Russians were
the bad guy. Like every movie you ever watched, unless
it was a Western, I mean, anything with a modern setting,
the Russian was a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Occasionally they would tag in an East German just to
give themselves a brass or two, and then they would
jump back into their evil doing.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, and it's especially egregious because the country is lousy
right now with Chinese intelligence agents and spies.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's why we need to have Tom cotton on amazing
him talking about how they've taken over our colleges, sending
all these Chinese students over who pay full freight, and
the colleges love people that pay the full tuition and
everything like that, which keeps, by the way, the prices
up in your kid from being able to get in.
But then they get educated at our universities and the
top tech and all that sort of stuff, while sometimes
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you know, hanging around as teachers and being spies and whatnot.
But the Hollywood thing, it hadn't occurred to me. Never
is there a bad guy that's from China in any movie,
which is ridiculous given the current state.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right well, but for the obvious reasons, I'm skipping ahead.
Assuming you're brilliant enough to already know this, the biggest
movie market on planet Earth is China. And if you
make a movie and you want to make a lot
of money, it ain't gonna get shown in China. If
you have somebody Chinese is a bad guy. As a
matter of fact, it goes way back to when Brad
Pitt was in the movie Seven Years in Tibet, which
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China hated. They banned whichever studio is Paramount or whoever
they banned whichever studio made that movie. For years and
years and years, they couldn't even get a film of
any kind in China, sending the message you get on
the wrong side of us, We're not just not gonna
show this movie, we won't show any of your movies.
We're gonna punish you. Yeah, and you just can't afford
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to do it. And it worked. And Tom Cotton makes
the argument that that's what happens with a lot of
our news, all of the big news networks are paired
with a big movie company and he listed them off.
I don't know what they are, but ABC and Disney
and NBC in paramount, and there's others.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That ABCS is joined us something on wholly judging by
their recent performance.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, but they all are. And he said, that's why
you don't see as critical coverage of China as you might.
Fox has more critical coverage of China, but they're not
tied in with any movie making company where they have
to worry about it. But they would be punished. ABC
would be punished if they go too far on being
anti China. Disney would get punished, and China would't allow
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the movies in. And there's too much money at stake
that that is.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That is not a good position to be in, especially
when that is combined with the woke crap which I
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Tom Cotton gives from the movie industry. If you're old enough,
if you remember the movie Red Dawn, which I think
was in the eighties or early nineties, but anyway, it
was the Russians land in the United States, the Soviets
land in the United States, and a bunch of plucky
high school kids in the middle of the country banned
together as an insurgency and take on the Russians. And
(10:16):
it's a great up with America anti Soviet Union sort
of movie. They tried to remake that a couple of
years ago, and they were going to use China. They
had it all, they filmed and everything like that. China
pushedback said there's no way this is going to air
in China, and they changed the bad guys to North Koreans.
Like North Korea is going to invade the United States.
(10:37):
The logistics would be daunting. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So another great example of this well of how perverse
Hollywood's become. It's gotten so woke. I mean, that's kind
of an old topic. I don't need to re establish it,
but I was so disgusted. Judy and I we watched
our big TV shows together, we binge them or whatever,
and we're all excited about Low Horses, which is on
(11:01):
one of your streaming services. It's about to like the
bottom of the barrel intelligence agents in Britain trying to
make their way and do their jobs. And it's a
bunch of slouchy characters, great cast and the rest of it.
But their first great task. Their their challenge is a
terrible terrorist attack in Britain. Islamis terrorism and I don't
(11:23):
know if you follow the news at all, horrific attack
after horrific attack thanks to Europe's absolutely unbridled, uncontrolled immigration
from the Muslim world now utterly changing the face of
Europe in a way that is just heartbreaking in my
mind anyway. But so the plot twist is, no, it
(11:44):
wasn't Islamists because they're nice people and they just want
to fit in. It was ugly right wing white people
giving faked and Islamist attack because that would never happen.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god, I said to Judy, I can't watch this.
I'm sorry. I would have been out. I can't watch this.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's just no, sorry, Wow, It's it's like, yeah, well,
I don't know. I've made my point, but it makes
me insane. The one of the great difficult to deal
with phenomenon of the uh phenomena of the modern age
is the outsized voice certain smallish groups have, whether it's
(12:29):
the woke left who captured the media and academia, but
most people hate their crap. But it seems like, and
it seemed like for a while everybody believes their crap
and you dared not speak against it. In a lot
of blue parts of the country, crazy outsized influence. I
think the woke right the America is always wrong. Vlad
Putin's a swell guy. Woke right is way, way, way
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smaller than you'd think they are online, But it's easy
to get the idea that there are way way more
people who embraise a certain point of view because they're
so loud and they post so frequently everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'd rather ride a porcupine to work than have Hollywood
something or other. Getting back to how we opened the segment,
colorful metaart. Then it looks yeah, say hey, don you
think it's easy? Oh, speaking of me, return to traditional values.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Playboy magazine is back with pretty girls showing their cute
little parts.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, Tim and I talked about that. Tim Sindneffer and
I talked about that a lot on Friday. It's an
interesting topic. He's a big, big in favor of this
Wall Street Journal. Not happy with the way Trump's handling Ukraine.
We can read a little other day two two days
in a row of an editorial board opinion piece, among
other things, on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
We get news if yet another inexplicable, chaotic move seemingly
bent on undermining everything we as Americans hold deer and
today is no different because KFC is moving its corporate headquarters.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
From Kentucky to Texas.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That that is fingerlicking.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
What is going on? What has happening? What's next?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Jersey Mike's becomes Main's, Mickey's will, Papa John stepped down?
Has pizza Pope Burger King abdicates his throne to marry
a common nugget.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The last joke was good. I heard it reported about
KFC moving their headquarters from Kentucky to Texas, and they
mentioned in the story on NPR that all two hundred
topy executives are going to have to relocate to Texas.
But they didn't present that as a horror like they
do when government workers have to move. They moved for
the job, and now their life gets upended in the
(14:45):
private sector, you just that happens.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I guess it's so.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Ridiculous anyway, I don't know if you remember, you probably don't.
Beth Bourne, we had her on the a podcaster on
the show She Lives In the I Live In. She
ended up going to the public library and fighting the
fact that they were having some sort of up with
trans thing in the conference room.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right anyway, and then they banned her from having a
meeting at that same library as yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was the gist.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
She wanted to push back on the trans thing and
they wouldn't let her have a meeting in the library.
So AnyWho, we had her on and she keeps track
of these sorts of things, and she tweeted this out yesterday. Yesterday,
a boy won the girls state championship for pool vault
in Maine. John Katie Spencer now named Katie vaulted ten
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feet for a dude. But go back, go on, I
saw the picture. You look at the what do you
call it the podium with him standing at the top.
He is, he looks like a guy, and he's way
bigger than the girls. Anyway. He vaulted ten feet six inches,
a full half foot higher than the second and third
place who tied eighteen inches higher than fourth place. So
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congratulations to John Katie Spencer for keeping that second place
girl from having her dream of winning the state title
at something that she worked really really hard at her
whole life. Men are better at everything in being women.
How women aren't running to the forefront of that being
horrible is amazing to me. But she mentioned and I
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missed this somehow in the town I live in, Davis, California.
Last spring, a boy, Cullen Lily Jabbers, broke the girls
Davis High School freshman school record for pull vault vaulting
ten feet.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yes, that's because it was a guy. Probably I missed
that somehow, the high school record.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, how long will this go on?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
In academia? The win for sanity is highly uncertain.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, Trump signed that e O, I guess with all
the little girls around, and that was really cool a
couple of weeks ago or something like that about no,
no more of this boys competing in girls' sports. If
you get any federal funding, you can't do it, and
schools do so. I don't know if it's just gonna
have to work its way through the courts or there'll
be a lagging something one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, it's going to be a fairly long process and
very very difficult, especially, you know, because we don't know
which way elections are going to go. But I've been
studying a fair amount of how colleges are getting around
that they've changed their DEI offices to the Office of
Community Health or whatever. They do precisely the same thing
with the same people. You get hospitals continuing to mutilate
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and give un irreversible treatments to confused adolescents in the
name of gender bending madness, but they change the coding
of the insurance claims to cover up what they're doing.
It's going to be a long fight. It's like rooting
out any disease. It's going to take a while.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
God, if my daughter got pushed off the podium by
some dude, I would make such a giant deal out
of that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Why are people so quiet about this? There's an answer
to that, but we have no time for it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, if you miss a segment or an hour, get
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand are Strong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
I really want to I really want to emphasize to
people that that's a very important point. If we don't
solve the deficit, they won't be money for medical care,
they won't be money for social security. We either solve
the deficit or all we'll be doing is paying debt.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I want that put to music, and I want school
children to sing that at the beginning of every school day.
Sounds good, and let's hear it again. Lengthen it a
little bit, think of it with music.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
I really want to I really want to emphasize to
people that that's a very important point. If we don't
solve the deficit, they won't be money for medical care,
they won't be money for social security. We either solve
the deficit or all we'll be doing is paying debt.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's stunning that this isn't the only conversation in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Not only that, but it's and I don't mean to
turn this negative, because this is going to be a
very positive segment.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
There you go in most ways.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
The fact that him saying that in that way is
a novelty and kind of vixciting and well new is.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Horrifying, and yet it is being said.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So let us be grateful for that right. Musk went
on to say, there's.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
A lot of rich people out there. They should be
caring more about the country, because the reason I should
be caring about more about the countries in America falls.
What do you think is going to happen to your business?
What do you think do you think you're going to
be okay? If the ship of America sinks, of course,
not like what what what?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What I'm doing here?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
What Present's doing is it's just long term thinking. The
ship of America must be strong. Ship of America cannot sink.
If it's sinks, we all sink with it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I don't know if this is deliberate, because I don't
know how good a communication strategist Elon Musk is. He
seems to shoot from the hip. But it's kind of
clicking in my head that you establish enthusiasm for cutting
the bloat and horrors of the fiscally responsibility of government
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without looking at the intitlence, which are most of the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Not the entire problem, but a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You get that enthusiasm going, you build that cultural you know,
excitement or at least you know, positive feelings about no,
we've got to reign in the government or we'll all
go broke. And when that becomes a cultural norm, then
you start to take on some of the more difficult stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Wow, I'll tell you what books will be written about
this someday, how this is going to play out. But
I find it impossible to believe that Musk isn't going
to get there like you just said, we go through
all this stuff, we go through the trans operas in
Cambodia or all these different things that we spend money
on that or so hilarious. I was just watching JD.
Vance is speaking live right now at the Seapac Convention,
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and he was just talking about sex education for Lithuanians
or something like that anyway that we were paying for.
But once you get all through all this, I believe
Elon is gonna say either too Trump to his face,
or he'll go on camera and say it, and then
Trump will be in a weird position of Okay, now
we got to look at some security and medicarian medicate
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because that the that's where the rubber meets the road.
And Trump has said that's off the table. And have
they talked about this, have they come to an agreement?
Is that when they split? I wonder or.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Will they go with the Trumpian belief that if you
can just increase the growth of the economy by a
percent or two annually, which is a bigger you know,
built to climb than it sounds like, then you can
go ahead and keep financing that stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm watching, I'm watching jd Vance speak and he's sitting
in a chair and he's he's got a gap between
his he's wearing a suit, of course he's got a
gap between his sock and his pant leg. To me,
I just think that's the worst look, the worst look.
Just you know, I don't care. But the other fashion
choices you can make on your own. You know you
want skinny tie, wide tie, bright colors, muted colors, tight suit,
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loose fitting suit, or you can't have the skin gap
between your the top of your pant the sock and
the pant leg. That's just a no go.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I have an idea. Why don't you go down the
hall to a different studio and do a podcast about that,
and I will keep talking about Cisco.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Sanity can take you seriously if they can see your shins.
The next clip, Michael.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Well, I think we're seeing an antibody reaction from from
those who are receiving the wasteful and fraudulent money.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'll tell you a lesson I learned at PayPal.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
You know who complained the loudest, and the quickest, and
the loudest and with the most amount of righteous indignation.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Fraudsters. That's who complained first.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
Loudest, and they would generally have this immense overreaction.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
That's how we knew there were the Fordsts. That's how
we knew. Wow, that's good and it was funny. I
was thinking this earlier. The four words everyone should know
about government is somebody gets the money. Right, everything that's
spent is received.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And that's not to say.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That all government spending therefore is some sort of theft
or graft or whatever, and O they're legitimate, you know, expenditures. Absolutely,
Just always remember that somebody is getting the money, and
that gives you the very very very basic framework for
thinking about who is getting the money and is it
a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Transfer of taxpayer funds.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Anyway, Ah, I absolutely love this, and we've got some good, positive,
funny stuff about Doge again in a moment or two.
But Brett Fair talked to Doug Bergham, who's the Secretary
of the Interior last night and it was good to interview,
very solid and interesting. But Bergham's final screed, it's sixty
(24:12):
two and sixty three, Michael I's that was absolutely terrific.
Let's hear the first part.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
There's an opportunity here with the federal government to right
size it and in the process. Part of it is
the federal government is so outdated on the technology. As
you know, Brett, I spent thirty years in technology businesses
before I got into the public service side of my life.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And we're decades and decades behind.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
And we've got still got people that are absolutely pushing paper.
We've got people that are taking faxes off fax machines
and then doing the data entry.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
There's just basic things we can do.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
We can create more meaningful, more purposeful jobs for people
that want to have a life of service, and we
can deliver lower cost, more efficient government for the citizens.
And we can do both, and we have to do
both of those together.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And here's the business end of what he said.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
If you're a CEO in technology where there are no
protections that every day you've got to build a product
that's better, faster, cheaper tomorrow than it is today, and
a new technology from a new competitor can put you
out of business. You're always evolving and changing, and those
competitive pressures haven't existed for government.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Government often is a monopoly.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
But we need to bring some of those pressures, like
things through DOGE that actually start driving the efficiencies and
driving the innovation. And I would invite everybody listening Interior.
We've got there's a site on x send us your
ideas about how we can do a better job serving.
I know people are frustrated waiting in line to pay
to get into a national park and we're paying an
(25:37):
employee to collect dollars when they.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Come in the door. And that should all be on
an app and people.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Should have a reservation and roll right in make it,
you know, lower costs for the government, better service for
the citizens. There's a thousand ideas out like that, and
we're ready to get going on them.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I mean, that is so obviously true. I've I did
that last year when I did that long driving trip
with my kids, waiting in these long single file car
lines to get to see if you got any cash
in your pocket to buy ticket to get in, as
opposed to just going on an app and everybody rolls through.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And it is common sensical, as some of the particulars
were there. I just liked the spirit of saying out loud,
which is that which has been so obvious to all
of us for so long. Government is a monopoly with
no pressure to improve its performances. To the great Tim
Sander Firs pointed out many times on this very show. Indeed,
(26:29):
it's the opposite. If you can go and say yeah,
or the Department of solving a problem, and we couldn't
solve the problem. We need more money, we need more people,
you'll generally get it right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And well there's the other problem. Somebody brought this up
on Fox yesterday. And I've known some people who dealt
with us, the friends of mine who abused this because
it's just human nature, who were in government and would
at the end of the year find ways to spend
all the money in their budget because if you didn't
spend it, your budget would be cut, right, so you
(27:04):
spend it on just dumb crap. I mean, god, there's
exam I'm not going to get so many of them
friends within trouble, but stuff that they bought just ridiculous
just to shove the money out the door. So your
budget stays the same.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Can you change it like a notch er two, so
we can get an idea of how ridiculous you're talking.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
About, Like electronics you don't need, for instance, yeah, laptops
for people exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, yeah, fair enough, just something anything to keep your budget.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What a terrible system. So I don't know how you
get around that either. I don't know. I don't know
what you do about that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But Wall Street Journal with a great piece today DOGE
is searching for wasteful spending. It isn't hard to find.
It's one of Washington's most persistent and challenging problems. The
federal government misspends at least one hundred billion dollars each
year out of its multi trillion dollar budget. Identifying the
wasteful outline outlays isn't the hardest part. It's actually doing
(27:59):
something about it. But they go into for instance, in
the most recent fiscal year, the agencies that reported their
improper payments and at least we have a system for
doing that, identified one hundred and one hundred and forty
nine billion dollars in such outlays, or almost four percent
of all payments were improper. The reports cover a large
(28:21):
chunk of total government spending, which the CBO put at
six point seventy five trillion dollars last fiscal year. Last year,
more than ninety percent of the improper payments were over payments.
We just we don't have stringent enough guidelines and systems,
as Doug Berghen was hinting at. I mean, we were
running the computer technology of the seventies in some cases
(28:44):
are eighties at best.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Who are in that mine with the Manila envelopes and
everything like that the technology of the eighteen hundreds, maybe
fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So we just bitterly, bitterly need all sorts of updates
and competitive pressures on government and privatization of certain functions.
I mean, it would be imperfect in some ways, but
there's a phenomenon. I guess again, I keep looking for
the perfect description of it. It's probably letting perfect be
the enemy of good or good enough. But there's this deal,
(29:15):
like getting rid of the penny. It gives you ninety
pounds of good and then ten pounds or so of
Oh boy, we're gonna have to work something out because
it does cause a bit of an issue in this
and that ten percent, that little bit of you know,
(29:36):
upsetting the current deal freaks people out, and they turned
down the ninety pounds of good. Happens over and over again.
The tax well, the tax go is a little more
complicated because so many people benefit from it. But yeah,
that that ohid better? Not when it comes to government policy,
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let's write.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Maybe it's that we're old enough to have seen all
sorts of policies come and go, and departments ry and
then not do crap with their budgets and the rest
of it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, let's try it. If it f things up, pardon me.
For the next seven or eight years.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll all be seven or eight years older who cares
and will have learned something. Need to be bolder speaking,
which I love this one more note, go ahead, you have.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Something to say on it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Trump weighs direct payments to Americans from DOGE savings. He's
considering carving off twenty percent of the savings from the
cost cutting efforts and just writing checks to Americans. This
is the most brilliant political idea ever. The more they find,
the more they cut, the bigger check you get, and
(30:41):
the more people love DOGE.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean to the point that it might go crazy
and we might start selling off aircraft carriers or Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't know. So we gotta be you know, tap
the brakes now and again.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But I'm telling you it's a perpetual motion machine of
popular support for reigning in government spending. It is the
most brilliant thing I have ever heard. If he cannot
screw it up with the stuff he does, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
We've got some Bonnie Blue news, you know, you know, uh,
stay tuned for that. Also, why the world life is
left less colorful than it used to be or I
don't know about but why, but it is, life is
much less colorful than it used to be just a
few years ago. And once I pointed out, it'll become
very clear to you. Among other things, we're gonna get
(31:33):
to stay with us farm Strawy.
Speaker 11 (31:37):
A Georgia woman is suing her fertility clinic after a heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
IVF mix up.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
Christina Murray was implanted with the wrong embryo, only to
later give up the five month old baby boys she
desperately loved. Christina, a former nurse, says she knew something
was off the minutes she saw her newborn. She and
her sperm downer were white, but her baby was African American.
Christina says the clinic found the biological parents, who are
also clients. They suit her for custody, and Christina gave
(32:04):
up the only son she'd ever known.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In a statement, Coastal.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
Fertility specialist says this was an isolated event with no
further patients affected, adding the clinic deeply regrets the distress
caused by an unprecedented error that resulted in an embryo
transfer mix up.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah. I saw the interview with this woman. What a
rough situation. Oh, heartbreaking. So you know, she goes through
that whole process, she's going to have a baby, she
has a baby, kid's black, she's white, So she immediately thinks, ah,
something might be up here. But I mean, you know,
they've been looking forward to having a baby, and she
has a baby for five months. It goes through the
whole thing while people are checking in it as and
(32:41):
everything like that, and you know, you just all the
hormones and chemicals and emotions that go with having a baby,
you know, take effect. And then somebody comes from and says, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the whole kids black thing. Yet it's not who you
thought it was or belong to someone else, cremit a mistake. Yeah,
what a terrible story. Yeah, I would give them a
(33:03):
bad Ye'll review that company, Oh one star.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, the good news was I got a kid. She
reminds me, I've got to get to the whole the
left claiming Trump's against IVF, he's against control. That narrative.
We've got some audio of that. And then he just
signed something completely the countrary. People lie routinely. If you
haven't figured that out, it's true.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And I think Katie brought us this story. I can't believe.
I now know the name of Bonnie Blue. She's the
weirdo who it says here in the New York Post
slept with, she had sex with, She didn't sleep with them.
That implies more intimacy and romance than existed. She had
sex with me, had coitus, she had genital rubbing with
(33:48):
a thousand dudes in one day, and now she claims
she's pregnant. Well that's a great story, isn't it. She
has a kid, and then that kid gets to grow
up knowing AM one of those one thousand guys that
had sex with my mom and one day is my dad.
The whole thing is so de humanized. It really is
just sickening. Came across this culture Critic is one of
my favorite Twitter follows. Always comes up with these really
interesting things, but has one to day out about how
(34:12):
we are getting less colorful every aspect of life is
being stripped of color. Many have noticed this trend, but
why is it happening? And he uses a bunch of examples,
charts of, for instance, pixels in photographs over the last
actually two hundred years. But we're getting more black and white,
and more blue and gray and olive green and less
(34:33):
like bright colors. Cars. Drastic change in cars to where
we just got way, way, way more cars that are black,
white or gray than blue, yellow, red, bright colors, and
by quite a bit. And then pointing out movies which
I had noticed, how a lot of your big motion
(34:54):
pictures and a lot of your cool Netflix series and
everything like that, they're barely in color at all. They're
practically blacke and white. They're just kind of muted colors
and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, really washed out muted, right, Yeah, I happen to
see that. And they showed the picture of what's his
face as Napoleon, and then the way he looked on.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The screen and all the color was washed out, which
is weird. Yeah, And it's just something that we're doing
for some reason, deciding to be less colorful. You know,
things come in and out of style over time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But I'll find that very interesting and It's so funny
this would come up, and I happen to see it too,
because Judy and I were getting our kitchen remodeled, and
we're looking at various colors and combinations and that sort
of thing like you do, and we're both inclined to
shy away from anything too bright, too notable.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now, our reasoning is, if something can be in, that
means it'll soon be out. It's the hot blue. Everybody's
using this blue. I'm not using that blue. I want
something more classic, and I wonder if that factors into it.
Everything lasts, well, no, everything doesn't last longer. You're pink
refrigerator you bought in nineteen sixty three still gonna be
there twenty years later, unlike modern garbage.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't know why we're tending toward less colorful stuff.
I certainly i've noticed that with the TV and movies.
Maybe it's just a fad, like you know, Bell Bottoms
or something. Got some good stuff for hour three. I
hope you can get it if you don't get the
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm strong and Gatty and he Armstrong and Yeddy.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
To the extent that the White House said that Ukraine
started the war, I disagree. I think Vladim repute started
the war. I also believe, through bitter experience, that Vladim
Reputin is a gangster. He's a gangster with a black hawk.
He makes Jeffrey Dahmer look like Mother Krusha.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
He has Stalin's taste for blood. And as I've said
in another context, I wouldn't I trust this guy like
I trust gas Station's sousal.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Just he's kind of making a good, serious point.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
He's got to Oh that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
My braind is throwing in a clever little shay, and
so let me just undermine my perfectly reasonable point of
view by making some idiotic, effing metaphor.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'll tell you what. That cabride was.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Longer than the ball constrictors and swallowed a wire and
plugged its wine into a two twenty outletder.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now just say it was song. Just say it was
a hog ride. No stupid metaphors. God, when's he up
for reelection? I was running against him? Was donating? Was
I right? Michael? I told you, I told Hanson and
Michael I said, we're gonna come back with this clip.
It'll wind up Joe and then we'll just let him
go for a while and then we'll move on by
(01:49):
this stuff. I'm done, yes, Katie. So while Joe catches
his breath as a man who trusts gas station sushi, Jack,
what did you think about this? That was a little hurtful?
There he is on TV again. You know why he
does that? Because he gets on TV. The reason he's
on I'm looking at CBS. The reason they have him
on there right now is because he's making his mother sushi,
(02:10):
gas station Teresa whatever clip.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I wonder if behind the scenes he's just a completely
serious man.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I wonder too, maybe maybe. So there's that we're going
to talk a little more about Ukraine and Putin and
all that coming up. And I think a lot of
your high ranking Republicans are trying to figure out how
do we deal with this because a number of them
don't agree at all. You know who disagrees with Thrump's
been saying the most Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. He
(02:39):
hasn't uttered a word about it. But I've been listening
to him for the last three years on all the
Sunday shows. I know what he thinks of this. He
thinks it's one hundred percent in the United States interest
to show Putin, Russia and the rest of the world
you can't get away with this, and that Putin's an
evil gangster and that, and obviously he doesn't feel like
Ukraine caused the war or Zelensky's in it for the money.
(03:03):
So how long he keeps his mouth shut about this,
I don't know. That's gonna be interesting to watch.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, and again, my great worry, or it's not even
a worry. It's a certainty that the great things Trump
is doing will soon be derailed by the nutty things
he's doing and saying.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And it's a damn shame. Yeah. If there's some clever,
three dimensional chess thing going on here that's going to
turn out good for America, maybe that, you know. I
don't see what it is, but maybe it's there.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I tell you what, I've been in businesses, I've been
in relationships, I've been in rock and roll bands, I've
been in sports teams that felt like they were heading
toward the rocks, and I got that feeling.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now it's get too bad. Good stuff done as we can. Yeah,
it's too bad because all of the you know, we
were reading from Rich Lowry's piece in The Natural Review
last week that it was the best three weeks for
conservatives in the culture war in a half a century. Yep,
the first the first three weeks of the Trump administration.
And that continues. And the dog stuff. I love the
(04:10):
focus on cutting government and blah blah blah, all this
energy policy, the border, it's all sat god. The immigration stuff. Yeah,
no kidding. By the way, Seapack is going on and
jd Vance is about to speak. Is Seapack in league
with the Westminster Dog Show? And something that used to
happen once a year is now.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Every three weeks it seems like it. Or is that
just because I'm old? It's like dancing with the stars. Now,
wait a minute, didn't they just start a season when
you're old? Annual things seem to happen every three weeks?
I guess that's just the way that is. From the
stupid file, I was looking up at the television and
(04:51):
they're making a very big deal out of it, with
oscars coming up here soon. Gender parody reached across the
top one hundred grossing films of twenty twenty four. It's
the first time in movie history gender parody and they're
going big on that, like that's really important.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The hell are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Boy?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
We got the same number of lead roles for women
as for men for the first time ever, apparently protagonists
and in various films. Okay, great, buck hey, great on
the forcing certain genders into art seems odd, but whatever,
(05:31):
it's to make money and which is leading me to this.
We're gonna have Tom Cotton on for a podcast soon.
He's got a new book out. He's a senator hawk,
especially a hawk on China with his new book Seven
Things You Can't Say About China. And I've listened to
several interviews with him already, and one of them that
he brings up is Hollywood and the way they rolled
(05:54):
over for China, and he uses a whole bunch of examples,
but he said, have you ever seen anybody Chinese is
the bad guy in a movie? There are number one
full you do any polling of Americans, Our number one
enemy in the world is China by far, and Americans
get that and know that when when Joe and I
were young a long time ago, when we were in
(06:16):
a Cold War with the Soviet Union, the Russians were
the bad guy. Like every movie you ever watched, unless
it was a Western, I mean, anything with a modern setting,
the Russian was a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Occasionally they would tag in an East German just to
give themselves a brass or two, and then they would
jump back into their evil doing.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, and it's especially egregious because the country is lousy
right now with Chinese intelligence agents and spies.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's why we need to have Tom cotton on amazing
him talking about how they've taken over our colleges, sending
all these Chinese students over who pay full freight, and
the colleges love people that pay the full tuition and
everything like that, which keeps, by the way, the prices
up in your kid from being able to get in.
But then they get educated at our universities and the
top tech and all that sort of stuff, while sometimes
(07:02):
you know, hanging around as teachers and being spies and whatnot.
But the Hollywood thing, it hadn't occurred to me. Never
is there a bad guy that's from China in any movie,
which is ridiculous given the current state.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right well, but for the obvious reasons, I'm skipping ahead.
Assuming you're brilliant enough to already know this, the biggest
movie market on planet Earth is China. And if you
make a movie and you want to make a lot
of money, it ain't gonna get shown in China. If
you have somebody Chinese is a bad guy. As a
matter of fact, it goes way back to when Brad
Pitt was in the movie Seven Years in Tibet, which
(07:40):
China hated. They banned whichever studio is Paramount or whoever
they banned whichever studio made that movie. For years and
years and years, they couldn't even get a film of
any kind in China, sending the message you get on
the wrong side of us, We're not just not gonna
show this movie, we won't show any of your movies.
We're gonna punish you. Yeah, and you just can't afford
(08:02):
to do it. And it worked. And Tom Cotton makes
the argument that that's what happens with a lot of
our news, all of the big news networks are paired
with a big movie company and he listed them off.
I don't know what they are, but ABC and Disney
and NBC in paramount, and there's others.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
That ABCS is joined us something on wholly judging by
their recent performance.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, but they all are. And he said, that's why
you don't see as critical coverage of China as you might.
Fox has more critical coverage of China, but they're not
tied in with any movie making company where they have
to worry about it. But they would be punished. ABC
would be punished if they go too far on being
anti China. Disney would get punished, and China would't allow
(08:47):
the movies in. And there's too much money at stake
that that is.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That is not a good position to be in, especially
when that is combined with the woke crap which I
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Prize Picks run at your game. One more example that
Tom Cotton gives from the movie industry. If you're old enough,
if you remember the movie Red Dawn, which I think
was in the eighties or early nineties, but anyway, it
was the Russians land in the United States, the Soviets
land in the United States, and a bunch of plucky
high school kids in the middle of the country banned
together as an insurgency and take on the Russians. And
(10:16):
it's a great up with America anti Soviet Union sort
of movie. They tried to remake that a couple of
years ago, and they were going to use China. They
had it all, they filmed and everything like that. China
pushedback said there's no way this is going to air
in China, and they changed the bad guys to North Koreans.
Like North Korea is going to invade the United States.
(10:37):
The logistics would be daunting. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So another great example of this well of how perverse
Hollywood's become. It's gotten so woke. I mean, that's kind
of an old topic. I don't need to re establish it,
but I was so disgusted. Judy and I we watched
our big TV shows together, we binge them or whatever,
and we're all excited about Low Horses, which is on
(11:01):
one of your streaming services. It's about to like the
bottom of the barrel intelligence agents in Britain trying to
make their way and do their jobs. And it's a
bunch of slouchy characters, great cast and the rest of it.
But their first great task. Their their challenge is a
terrible terrorist attack in Britain. Islamis terrorism and I don't
(11:23):
know if you follow the news at all, horrific attack
after horrific attack thanks to Europe's absolutely unbridled, uncontrolled immigration
from the Muslim world now utterly changing the face of
Europe in a way that is just heartbreaking in my
mind anyway. But so the plot twist is, no, it
(11:44):
wasn't Islamists because they're nice people and they just want
to fit in. It was ugly right wing white people
giving faked and Islamist attack because that would never happen.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh my god, I said to Judy, I can't watch this.
I'm sorry. I would have been out. I can't watch this.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's just no, sorry, Wow, It's it's like, yeah, well,
I don't know. I've made my point, but it makes
me insane. The one of the great difficult to deal
with phenomenon of the uh phenomena of the modern age
is the outsized voice certain smallish groups have, whether it's
(12:29):
the woke left who captured the media and academia, but
most people hate their crap. But it seems like, and
it seemed like for a while everybody believes their crap
and you dared not speak against it. In a lot
of blue parts of the country, crazy outsized influence. I
think the woke right the America is always wrong. Vlad
Putin's a swell guy. Woke right is way, way, way
(12:51):
smaller than you'd think they are online, But it's easy
to get the idea that there are way way more
people who embraise a certain point of view because they're
so loud and they post so frequently everywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'd rather ride a porcupine to work than have Hollywood
something or other. Getting back to how we opened the segment,
colorful metaart. Then it looks yeah, say hey, don you
think it's easy? Oh, speaking of me, return to traditional values.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Playboy magazine is back with pretty girls showing their cute
little parts.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, Tim and I talked about that. Tim Sindneffer and
I talked about that a lot on Friday. It's an
interesting topic. He's a big, big in favor of this
Wall Street Journal. Not happy with the way Trump's handling Ukraine.
We can read a little other day two two days
in a row of an editorial board opinion piece, among
other things, on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
We get news if yet another inexplicable, chaotic move seemingly
bent on undermining everything we as Americans hold deer and
today is no different because KFC is moving its corporate headquarters.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
From Kentucky to Texas.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
That that is fingerlicking.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
What is going on? What has happening? What's next?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Jersey Mike's becomes Main's, Mickey's will, Papa John stepped down?
Has pizza Pope Burger King abdicates his throne to marry
a common nugget.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The last joke was good. I heard it reported about
KFC moving their headquarters from Kentucky to Texas, and they
mentioned in the story on NPR that all two hundred
topy executives are going to have to relocate to Texas.
But they didn't present that as a horror like they
do when government workers have to move. They moved for
the job, and now their life gets upended in the
(14:45):
private sector, you just that happens.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
I guess it's so.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Ridiculous anyway, I don't know if you remember, you probably don't.
Beth Bourne, we had her on the a podcaster on
the show She Lives In the I Live In. She
ended up going to the public library and fighting the
fact that they were having some sort of up with
trans thing in the conference room.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right anyway, and then they banned her from having a
meeting at that same library as yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was the gist.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
She wanted to push back on the trans thing and
they wouldn't let her have a meeting in the library.
So AnyWho, we had her on and she keeps track
of these sorts of things, and she tweeted this out yesterday. Yesterday,
a boy won the girls state championship for pool vault
in Maine. John Katie Spencer now named Katie vaulted ten
(15:41):
feet for a dude. But go back, go on, I
saw the picture. You look at the what do you
call it the podium with him standing at the top.
He is, he looks like a guy, and he's way
bigger than the girls. Anyway. He vaulted ten feet six inches,
a full half foot higher than the second and third
place who tied eighteen inches higher than fourth place. So
(16:05):
congratulations to John Katie Spencer for keeping that second place
girl from having her dream of winning the state title
at something that she worked really really hard at her
whole life. Men are better at everything in being women.
How women aren't running to the forefront of that being
horrible is amazing to me. But she mentioned and I
(16:29):
missed this somehow in the town I live in, Davis, California.
Last spring, a boy, Cullen Lily Jabbers, broke the girls
Davis High School freshman school record for pull vault vaulting
ten feet.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yes, that's because it was a guy. Probably I missed
that somehow, the high school record.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, how long will this go on?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
In academia? The win for sanity is highly uncertain.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Well, Trump signed that e O, I guess with all
the little girls around, and that was really cool a
couple of weeks ago or something like that about no,
no more of this boys competing in girls' sports. If
you get any federal funding, you can't do it, and
schools do so. I don't know if it's just gonna
have to work its way through the courts or there'll
be a lagging something one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, it's going to be a fairly long process and
very very difficult, especially, you know, because we don't know
which way elections are going to go. But I've been
studying a fair amount of how colleges are getting around
that they've changed their DEI offices to the Office of
Community Health or whatever. They do precisely the same thing
with the same people. You get hospitals continuing to mutilate
(17:41):
and give un irreversible treatments to confused adolescents in the
name of gender bending madness, but they change the coding
of the insurance claims to cover up what they're doing.
It's going to be a long fight. It's like rooting
out any disease. It's going to take a while.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
God, if my daughter got pushed off the podium by
some dude, I would make such a giant deal out
of that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Why are people so quiet about this? There's an answer
to that, but we have no time for it.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, if you miss a segment or an hour, get
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand are Strong and Getty.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
I really want to I really want to emphasize to
people that that's a very important point. If we don't
solve the deficit, they won't be money for medical care,
they won't be money for social security. We either solve
the deficit or all we'll be doing is paying debt.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I want that put to music, and I want school
children to sing that at the beginning of every school day.
Sounds good, and let's hear it again. Lengthen it a
little bit, think of it with music.
Speaker 8 (18:44):
I really want to I really want to emphasize to
people that that's a very important point. If we don't
solve the deficit, they won't be money for medical care,
they won't be money for social security. We either solve
the deficit or all we'll be doing is paying debt.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's stunning that this isn't the only conversation in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Not only that, but it's and I don't mean to
turn this negative, because this is going to be a
very positive segment.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
There you go in most ways.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
The fact that him saying that in that way is
a novelty and kind of vixciting and well new is.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Horrifying, and yet it is being said.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So let us be grateful for that right. Musk went
on to say, there's.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
A lot of rich people out there. They should be
caring more about the country, because the reason I should
be caring about more about the countries in America falls.
What do you think is going to happen to your business?
What do you think do you think you're going to
be okay? If the ship of America sinks, of course,
not like what what what?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What I'm doing here?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
What Present's doing is it's just long term thinking. The
ship of America must be strong. Ship of America cannot sink.
If it's sinks, we all sink with it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I don't know if this is deliberate, because I don't
know how good a communication strategist Elon Musk is. He
seems to shoot from the hip. But it's kind of
clicking in my head that you establish enthusiasm for cutting
the bloat and horrors of the fiscally responsibility of government
(20:25):
without looking at the intitlence, which are most of the problem.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Not the entire problem, but a lot of it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You get that enthusiasm going, you build that cultural you know,
excitement or at least you know, positive feelings about no,
we've got to reign in the government or we'll all
go broke. And when that becomes a cultural norm, then
you start to take on some of the more difficult stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Wow, I'll tell you what books will be written about
this someday, how this is going to play out. But
I find it impossible to believe that Musk isn't going
to get there like you just said, we go through
all this stuff, we go through the trans operas in
Cambodia or all these different things that we spend money
on that or so hilarious. I was just watching JD.
Vance is speaking live right now at the Seapac Convention,
(21:11):
and he was just talking about sex education for Lithuanians
or something like that anyway that we were paying for.
But once you get all through all this, I believe
Elon is gonna say either too Trump to his face,
or he'll go on camera and say it, and then
Trump will be in a weird position of Okay, now
we got to look at some security and medicarian medicate
(21:31):
because that the that's where the rubber meets the road.
And Trump has said that's off the table. And have
they talked about this, have they come to an agreement?
Is that when they split? I wonder or.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Will they go with the Trumpian belief that if you
can just increase the growth of the economy by a
percent or two annually, which is a bigger you know,
built to climb than it sounds like, then you can
go ahead and keep financing that stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm watching, I'm watching jd Vance speak and he's sitting
in a chair and he's he's got a gap between
his he's wearing a suit, of course he's got a
gap between his sock and his pant leg. To me,
I just think that's the worst look, the worst look.
Just you know, I don't care. But the other fashion
choices you can make on your own. You know you
want skinny tie, wide tie, bright colors, muted colors, tight suit,
(22:22):
loose fitting suit, or you can't have the skin gap
between your the top of your pant the sock and
the pant leg. That's just a no go.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I have an idea. Why don't you go down the
hall to a different studio and do a podcast about that,
and I will keep talking about Cisco.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Sanity can take you seriously if they can see your shins.
The next clip, Michael.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Well, I think we're seeing an antibody reaction from from
those who are receiving the wasteful and fraudulent money.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I'll tell you a lesson I learned at PayPal.
Speaker 8 (22:53):
You know who complained the loudest, and the quickest, and
the loudest and with the most amount of righteous indignation.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Fraudsters. That's who complained first.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
Loudest, and they would generally have this immense overreaction.
Speaker 9 (23:07):
That's how we knew there were the Fordsts. That's how
we knew. Wow, that's good and it was funny. I
was thinking this earlier. The four words everyone should know
about government is somebody gets the money. Right, everything that's
spent is received.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And that's not to say.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
That all government spending therefore is some sort of theft
or graft or whatever, and O they're legitimate, you know, expenditures. Absolutely,
Just always remember that somebody is getting the money, and
that gives you the very very very basic framework for
thinking about who is getting the money and is it
a legitimate.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Transfer of taxpayer funds.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Anyway, Ah, I absolutely love this, and we've got some good, positive,
funny stuff about Doge again in a moment or two.
But Brett Fair talked to Doug Bergham, who's the Secretary
of the Interior last night and it was good to interview,
very solid and interesting. But Bergham's final screed, it's sixty
(24:12):
two and sixty three, Michael I's that was absolutely terrific.
Let's hear the first part.
Speaker 10 (24:16):
There's an opportunity here with the federal government to right
size it and in the process. Part of it is
the federal government is so outdated on the technology. As
you know, Brett, I spent thirty years in technology businesses
before I got into the public service side of my life.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And we're decades and decades behind.
Speaker 10 (24:34):
And we've got still got people that are absolutely pushing paper.
We've got people that are taking faxes off fax machines
and then doing the data entry.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
There's just basic things we can do.
Speaker 10 (24:46):
We can create more meaningful, more purposeful jobs for people
that want to have a life of service, and we
can deliver lower cost, more efficient government for the citizens.
And we can do both, and we have to do
both of those together.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And here's the business end of what he said.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
If you're a CEO in technology where there are no
protections that every day you've got to build a product
that's better, faster, cheaper tomorrow than it is today, and
a new technology from a new competitor can put you
out of business. You're always evolving and changing, and those
competitive pressures haven't existed for government.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Government often is a monopoly.
Speaker 10 (25:16):
But we need to bring some of those pressures, like
things through DOGE that actually start driving the efficiencies and
driving the innovation. And I would invite everybody listening Interior.
We've got there's a site on x send us your
ideas about how we can do a better job serving.
I know people are frustrated waiting in line to pay
to get into a national park and we're paying an
(25:37):
employee to collect dollars when they.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Come in the door. And that should all be on
an app and people.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Should have a reservation and roll right in make it,
you know, lower costs for the government, better service for
the citizens. There's a thousand ideas out like that, and
we're ready to get going on them.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I mean, that is so obviously true. I've I did
that last year when I did that long driving trip
with my kids, waiting in these long single file car
lines to get to see if you got any cash
in your pocket to buy ticket to get in, as
opposed to just going on an app and everybody rolls through.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And it is common sensical, as some of the particulars
were there. I just liked the spirit of saying out loud,
which is that which has been so obvious to all
of us for so long. Government is a monopoly with
no pressure to improve its performances. To the great Tim
Sander Firs pointed out many times on this very show. Indeed,
(26:29):
it's the opposite. If you can go and say yeah,
or the Department of solving a problem, and we couldn't
solve the problem. We need more money, we need more people,
you'll generally get it right.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And well there's the other problem. Somebody brought this up
on Fox yesterday. And I've known some people who dealt
with us, the friends of mine who abused this because
it's just human nature, who were in government and would
at the end of the year find ways to spend
all the money in their budget because if you didn't
spend it, your budget would be cut, right, so you
(27:04):
spend it on just dumb crap. I mean, god, there's
exam I'm not going to get so many of them
friends within trouble, but stuff that they bought just ridiculous
just to shove the money out the door. So your
budget stays the same.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Can you change it like a notch er two, so
we can get an idea of how ridiculous you're talking.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
About, Like electronics you don't need, for instance, yeah, laptops
for people exactly?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, yeah, fair enough, just something anything to keep your budget.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
What a terrible system. So I don't know how you
get around that either. I don't know. I don't know
what you do about that.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
But Wall Street Journal with a great piece today DOGE
is searching for wasteful spending. It isn't hard to find.
It's one of Washington's most persistent and challenging problems. The
federal government misspends at least one hundred billion dollars each
year out of its multi trillion dollar budget. Identifying the
wasteful outline outlays isn't the hardest part. It's actually doing
(27:59):
something about it. But they go into for instance, in
the most recent fiscal year, the agencies that reported their
improper payments and at least we have a system for
doing that, identified one hundred and one hundred and forty
nine billion dollars in such outlays, or almost four percent
of all payments were improper. The reports cover a large
(28:21):
chunk of total government spending, which the CBO put at
six point seventy five trillion dollars last fiscal year. Last year,
more than ninety percent of the improper payments were over payments.
We just we don't have stringent enough guidelines and systems,
as Doug Berghen was hinting at. I mean, we were
running the computer technology of the seventies in some cases
(28:44):
are eighties at best.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Who are in that mine with the Manila envelopes and
everything like that the technology of the eighteen hundreds, maybe
fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So we just bitterly, bitterly need all sorts of updates
and competitive pressures on government and privatization of certain functions.
I mean, it would be imperfect in some ways, but
there's a phenomenon. I guess again, I keep looking for
the perfect description of it. It's probably letting perfect be
the enemy of good or good enough. But there's this deal,
(29:15):
like getting rid of the penny. It gives you ninety
pounds of good and then ten pounds or so of
Oh boy, we're gonna have to work something out because
it does cause a bit of an issue in this
and that ten percent, that little bit of you know,
(29:36):
upsetting the current deal freaks people out, and they turned
down the ninety pounds of good. Happens over and over again.
The tax well, the tax go is a little more
complicated because so many people benefit from it. But yeah,
that that ohid better? Not when it comes to government policy,
I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Let's write.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Maybe it's that we're old enough to have seen all
sorts of policies come and go, and departments ry and
then not do crap with their budgets and the rest
of it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
No, let's try it. If it f things up, pardon me.
For the next seven or eight years.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We'll all be seven or eight years older who cares
and will have learned something. Need to be bolder speaking,
which I love this one more note, go ahead, you have.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Something to say on it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Trump weighs direct payments to Americans from DOGE savings. He's
considering carving off twenty percent of the savings from the
cost cutting efforts and just writing checks to Americans. This
is the most brilliant political idea ever. The more they find,
the more they cut, the bigger check you get, and
(30:41):
the more people love DOGE.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I mean to the point that it might go crazy
and we might start selling off aircraft carriers or Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I don't know. So we gotta be you know, tap
the brakes now and again.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
But I'm telling you it's a perpetual motion machine of
popular support for reigning in government spending. It is the
most brilliant thing I have ever heard. If he cannot
screw it up with the stuff he does, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
We've got some Bonnie Blue news, you know, you know, uh,
stay tuned for that. Also, why the world life is
left less colorful than it used to be or I
don't know about but why, but it is, life is
much less colorful than it used to be just a
few years ago. And once I pointed out, it'll become
very clear to you. Among other things, we're gonna get
(31:33):
to stay with us farm Strawy.
Speaker 11 (31:37):
A Georgia woman is suing her fertility clinic after a heartbreaking.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
IVF mix up.
Speaker 11 (31:42):
Christina Murray was implanted with the wrong embryo, only to
later give up the five month old baby boys she
desperately loved. Christina, a former nurse, says she knew something
was off the minutes she saw her newborn. She and
her sperm downer were white, but her baby was African American.
Christina says the clinic found the biological parents, who are
also clients. They suit her for custody, and Christina gave
(32:04):
up the only son she'd ever known.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
In a statement, Coastal.
Speaker 11 (32:08):
Fertility specialist says this was an isolated event with no
further patients affected, adding the clinic deeply regrets the distress
caused by an unprecedented error that resulted in an embryo
transfer mix up.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah. I saw the interview with this woman. What a
rough situation. Oh, heartbreaking. So you know, she goes through
that whole process, she's going to have a baby, she
has a baby, kid's black, she's white, So she immediately thinks, ah,
something might be up here. But I mean, you know,
they've been looking forward to having a baby, and she
has a baby for five months. It goes through the
whole thing while people are checking in it as and
(32:41):
everything like that, and you know, you just all the
hormones and chemicals and emotions that go with having a baby,
you know, take effect. And then somebody comes from and says, yeah, yeah, yeah,
the whole kids black thing. Yet it's not who you
thought it was or belong to someone else, cremit a mistake. Yeah,
what a terrible story. Yeah, I would give them a
(33:03):
bad Ye'll review that company, Oh one star.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, the good news was I got a kid. She
reminds me, I've got to get to the whole the
left claiming Trump's against IVF, he's against control. That narrative.
We've got some audio of that. And then he just
signed something completely the countrary. People lie routinely. If you
haven't figured that out, it's true.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And I think Katie brought us this story. I can't believe.
I now know the name of Bonnie Blue. She's the
weirdo who it says here in the New York Post
slept with, she had sex with, She didn't sleep with them.
That implies more intimacy and romance than existed. She had
sex with me, had coitus, she had genital rubbing with
(33:48):
a thousand dudes in one day, and now she claims
she's pregnant. Well that's a great story, isn't it. She
has a kid, and then that kid gets to grow
up knowing AM one of those one thousand guys that
had sex with my mom and one day is my dad.
The whole thing is so de humanized. It really is
just sickening. Came across this culture Critic is one of
my favorite Twitter follows. Always comes up with these really
interesting things, but has one to day out about how
(34:12):
we are getting less colorful every aspect of life is
being stripped of color. Many have noticed this trend, but
why is it happening? And he uses a bunch of examples,
charts of, for instance, pixels in photographs over the last
actually two hundred years. But we're getting more black and white,
and more blue and gray and olive green and less
(34:33):
like bright colors. Cars. Drastic change in cars to where
we just got way, way, way more cars that are black,
white or gray than blue, yellow, red, bright colors, and
by quite a bit. And then pointing out movies which
I had noticed, how a lot of your big motion
(34:54):
pictures and a lot of your cool Netflix series and
everything like that, they're barely in color at all. They're
practically blacke and white. They're just kind of muted colors
and everything.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, really washed out muted, right, Yeah, I happen to
see that. And they showed the picture of what's his
face as Napoleon, and then the way he looked on.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
The screen and all the color was washed out, which
is weird. Yeah, And it's just something that we're doing
for some reason, deciding to be less colorful. You know,
things come in and out of style over time.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
But I'll find that very interesting and It's so funny
this would come up, and I happen to see it too,
because Judy and I were getting our kitchen remodeled, and
we're looking at various colors and combinations and that sort
of thing like you do, and we're both inclined to
shy away from anything too bright, too notable.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Now, our reasoning is, if something can be in, that
means it'll soon be out. It's the hot blue. Everybody's
using this blue. I'm not using that blue. I want
something more classic, and I wonder if that factors into it.
Everything lasts, well, no, everything doesn't last longer. You're pink
refrigerator you bought in nineteen sixty three still gonna be
there twenty years later, unlike modern garbage.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I don't know why we're tending toward less colorful stuff.
I certainly i've noticed that with the TV and movies.
Maybe it's just a fad, like you know, Bell Bottoms
or something. Got some good stuff for hour three. I
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