March 25, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Are we getting dumber?
- Stay to play lawsuit
- The text scandal & the theory on how it happened
- The rise of cana-moms
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. A
New York Post, Now that's a good one. Got a
headline that says, chef reveals common mistake people make when
trying to make perfect bacon. See I would click on
(00:32):
that you have chef fired because her boobs were too big.
I'm not going to click on that one. All right,
New York Post, What if.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A particularly large breasted chef could solve your bacon?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Wolles, I got two little short, funny things here. I'm
not going to give you the background. You either know
what this is about or nuts the new story of
the day. You know, go back and listen to early
segments if you want to know what we've said about
that Armstrong and Getty on demand. First, this break news
District judge has just ruled Jeffrey Goldberg must be added
back into signal chat, which is funny. And this and
(01:08):
this uh communication from forty four BC. We just have
the initials of the names g cashus. We've agreed. March
fifteenth is a day m brutus. I guess we have
to Cassius. Don't forget your daggers, j Caesar. Guys, that's
(01:31):
pretty funny. Yeah, I've forgotten the name of the uh,
what's the what's the messaging service again? Signal? Signal? Okay,
you know, there's just down. There's one breaking little piece
here that's worth mentioning Byron new York of the Is
(01:53):
he what the examiner? I think so Waltz is telling
colleagues that he is never we're met or talked to
Jeffrey Goldberg ever, So if that's true, how the hell
did he get added into the conversation?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But that again sounds like a loyally denial to me.
He's emailed with him. Okay, anyway, so your choice shack,
because I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They're both great. What do you want to hear? First?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The World Happiness Report is a sham. I just waved
in our face.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Again, as it is every year about how happy they
are in Scandinavia or whatever. We were our lowest ranking
ever or something like that. We're twenty fourth, I think, yes,
So that's a choice number one. The whole the World
Happiness Report is a sham.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The media loves hyping the annual study, but its methodology
doesn't hold up to scrutiny or shock. Also not a shock,
but troubling. Have we really passed peak brain power? There's
a compelling case that we're getting dumb as a species.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I feel like I'm dumber than I was last week.
Not on an individual basis, Jack, but is a species.
Although you're not helping Franklin. Whoa the college kids? Yeah,
go ahead play that the ninety isn't Michael? Who do
the colonists fight in the Revolutionary War? God? In the revolution?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh, I don't know if this is right. I mean,
it sounds so stupid? Was it the Spanish? Wait? What
are your majors? Business? Biology, elementary education? Oh? They're actually
they're asking actual college students at spring break these questions.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Have we ever had a female vice president in the
United States?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yes, Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What continent is Mexico located in? If you go south Mexico,
it's in Australia.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Wait hold on, no, no, no, no, it's in the wait Mexico.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Wait are we talking about the same Mexico? Can you
name the seven continents? Yes? North America, South America, Asia, Europe.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know there's another one, Canada.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
At least he could get started. I mean the colonists
fighting the Spanish. Who could forget the Boston piea party
when we threw the pie end of the Bay to
protest the taxes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And this probably politically active college student who has very
strong opinions on things, believes Hilary Clinton was vice president? Hm?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So have we really passed peak brain power? Are we
getting dumber? The data tell a worrying tale. We'll get
to the happiness index some other time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Human cognitive capabilities appeared to be in retreat according to
the New Analytical Peace in the Financial Times by John
Byrne Murdock, of humans past peak brain power, I was paywalled,
so I went with this account of the account instent.
So since twenty twelve, scores in reasoning and problem solving
have fallen precipitously across benchmark tests in rich countries. The
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share of eighteen year olds reporting difficulty thinking and concentrating
has climbed steadily since the mid twenty tens. Gee, I
wonder why that might be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, don't kidding that kind of that's all right?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The most striking perhaps is that twenty five percent of
adults in high income countries and thirty five percent in
America now struggle with basic mathematical reasoning. But what's changed
is not human biology. Don't blame de evolution, chemtrails or microplastics.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm still an idiocracy guy. I think de evolution is happening.
Butting and seed oils, that's right, you got it, you
gave it away. It's behavior that's changed. Reading rates have plummeted.
Feerd and a half of Americans read a book in
twenty twenty two. Does getting like twenty two pages in
(05:59):
count fewer than half read ab book correct in a year.
Yet this represents merely one facet of a broader phenomenon,
the erosion of sustained mental focus.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, I worry about that all the time. I know
mine is way worse. I mean, there's no doubt about it.
We talk about it all the time. I read so
much less than on YouTube long form because I can't.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The culprit appears to be and if you need to
hear the end of this sentence, you're one of the
stupid people dragging us down. The culprit appears to be
our newly passive relationship with information rather than self directed exploration.
It just comes to us web surfing goods, scrolling bad.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
God, I've got to fight that. I've got to got
to get better at fighting the scrolling. Damn it. It's
so easy to get sucked in, just those tiny little
shots of endorphins.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Just it's yeah, I can feel it, and I feel
how insidious it is. The problem is it's easier said
than done fighting against it. This is my great revelations
that I had to myself a week ago. If you're
old enough to remember having like one hundred and fifty
cable channels and you just kept flipping through and nothing
was interesting, Flip, flip flip, How is there nothing good on?
I have one hundred and fifty channels. Now it's the opposite,
(07:16):
you flip. Everything's good, everything's good. This is something I want.
This is something I want.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
This is something I want right because the algorithm figured
out what I want. The best minds of our time
are devoted to addicting us to dopey little shots of
so indifferent. So I have to make the conscious decision, yes,
this is good rare concert footage. I've never seen before,
or this is hilarious, you know, stand up, I haven't
(07:42):
seen before or whatever. It's all stuff I want, but
I've got to do other things. I can't only do this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, the dividing line for me is just being entertained.
I will say, this is not the part of my
day where I have time to be entertained. I need
to be productive. But anyway, y'all approach it the way
it works for you. But a little more from the piece,
which I thought was very interesting and allegedly there is
some encouraging news too. But we've moved from finite web
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pages to infinite constantly refreshed feeds and a constant brage
of notifications. We no longer spend as much time actively
browsing the web and interacting with people we know, but
instead are presented with a torrent of content. This represents
a move from self directed behavior to passive consumption. Constant
context switching. Research finds that active intentional use of digital
(08:35):
technologies is often benign or even beneficial. So you know,
I've called for unplugging the Internet over and over again,
only half seriously.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But it's not the Internet per se.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Whereas the behaviors that have taken off in recent years,
have been shown to affect everything from our ability to
process verbal information to attention, working memory, and self regulation.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh my god, that's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There passively with our intellectual mouth open and being fed
like a baby bird as opposed to going and hunting
down our prey is killing us. In short, though the
fundamental human capacity for intelligence remains intact, its execution is
increasingly compromised by our habits.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So the big question that we ask at least four
times a week, it seems, do we arrest this development
as human beings or is it just going to take over?
And those of us who remember the before times are
all dead And there won't be anybody around to even
(09:41):
talk about this because they don't know any other way.
I mean, it won't be what twenty thirty years, There
will hardly be anybody left who remembers what your brain
was like before this, So who would complain? So some
notes of prospective and or hope will let you, good folks,
be the your to how significant all of this is?
(10:03):
Blah blah blah. Digital revolt.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
A rebellion may already be brewing, and not just among
parents who now regret giving their pre sixteen year old smartphones.
Surveys revealed it around half of gen z Wish's social
media platforms didn't exist. Young people are increasingly modifying their
digital behaviors, with flip phones making comeback and offlining gaining
popularity again to what extent.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't I haven't seen this, and maybe it's happening,
but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I'm aware of the Amish, but I don't think
you know wagon driving is about to supplant the cars
in their pollution.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Funny you say that it was hot in our house
the other day and Henry wanted me to turn the
air conditioner on. I said, we're not gonna turn on
the air conditioner. It's like seventy two degrees outside. Let's
open the windows and get some air going. He said,
what are we amish?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I guess we're Amish. Now that's an odd protest.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Anyway, this author rights perhaps were approaching an inflection point
where the pursuit of mental clarity and sustained attention could
once again and become valued social currency. And how about
the idea of cognitive adaptation. Perhaps what we're seeing is
in deterioration, but specialization as calculators want freed mental capacity
from arithmetic, which is still useful, though today's digital tools
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allow humans to outsource memory and routine processing, liberating cognitive
resources for higher functions. Ah, is that what the kids
were doing on the beach.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, I'm not feeling that in my own life that
this is allowing me to have a higher function of
something else by not happy to remember certain things.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, give me clip number ninety two and you can
be the judge of whether this is liberating cognitive resources
for higher functions.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Who won the Civil War? Oh, shoot, it's East or West? Right, Well,
it's the Civil War, so it's the civilians versus whoever
was in power. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Justices? Like,
when you say that, you mean like that, bi.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How do you know liberating cognitive resources for higher function?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
How did you possibly graduate high school without that knowledge?
How are you in college with that with It's just stunning.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
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think that is true. Why it's still so hard to
get ahead? I mean, you know, there's a lot of
twenty eight year olds out there trying to climb the
ladder and it ain't easy. You'd think it be easier.
People are so dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I think if you are not dumb and can focus
and look someone in the eye and shake their hand
and are not afraid of conversing, you have a really
good chance in life. Hang in there. Success always takes
longer than you think it's going to You'll be fine.
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(14:08):
Bet that's gonna be a good party. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
There have been various rumors going around about how many
gazillions of dollars are being spent on that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Probably not a cash bar, so that's helpful. A couple
of sports related notes. Don't worry if you're not a
sports fan. Won't last long. No Cinderella is this year
in the sweet sixteen and CAA tournament's all the superpower
conferences superpower teams. Is it a fluke or the new
reality in college sports where all the kids can change
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teams kids they're young adults every year depending on who
has the most nil money to the big conferences.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Don't know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
All sixteen entrants come from the four swanky power conferences,
not self word swanky. More often the SEC has seven teams,
the Big Ten has four, the Big twelve has four,
and the ACT the ACC one team which is sadly
duke that writes Jason Gay the Wall Street Journal sadly.
(15:08):
And then this note which I thought was interesting. This
is Joe Joe Getty. That's Jack Armstrong over there. Welcome,
good to meet you. I was an athlete as a kid,
fairly serious athlete, and I thought my kids would be too,
but they weren't. They're all, you know, fairly casual rec
league athletes and had fun but didn't take it seriously,
which is perfectly fine. And I saw a lot of
(15:30):
my contemporaries have their lives dominated by youth travel sports.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I would be super into it and everything. If one
of my kids was really into it, but the fact
that they're not doesn't break my heart. Observing other parents,
right who have their lives dominated by a kid who's
a good athlete.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah yeah, because I have a life too and I
feel like living it. But anyway, you know, this is
a teach throne. And I actually know some folks whose
kids actually became college athletes and now they've continued it
and they spend a lot of weekends on the road
watching their kid play lacrosse or whatever. You know, great families.
But anyway, I thought this is really really interesting. There's
a big lawsuit going on right now and a bust
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and this has to do with hockey, which is one
of the sports I played. And folks from northern climbs
get how big youth hockey, travel hockey is. The leagues,
the private leagues. It's like the one on the ice, right,
that is the one on the ice, that's right. It's
like back in the day high school sports really mattered.
(16:34):
Now it's all about the club teams. Like in basketball,
what's the organization flitted out of my head, AAU exactly, Yeah,
And with hockey, it's these private organizations. It's not playing
for your high school team that brings you to the
Scouts attention anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But these big.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Tournaments that you have to be at to be seen in,
all the organizers of it assign these sweetheart deals with
hotels where you have to stay at the hotel really
to play.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
In the tournament wow, with minimums for food and blah
blah blah, often at exorbitant rates. And I didn't know that.
You don't get to shop around pick your hotel room
at whatever price you want to spend that stay to play.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They call it wow. Yes, and what's worse than that?
The organizers of the tournaments, well, you know what I'm
about to give away the man behind the curtain. So
but you can go to these websites that will consolidate
and find you this, that and the other and the
group rates blah blah blah. Well, the guys who organize
the tournaments, those are the guys behind the websites. So
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they are getting like a double kickback and really sticking
the screws to the would be my kid's going to
be get a scholarship and be a star parents.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It's a giant racket. Yeah, not surprising.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Praying on folks enthusiasm desperation for their kid to get
a scholar ship end or some sort of same.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
To a certain extent, maybe if this is the way
it is, you know, I wish it weren't that way,
and maybe it'll change someday. But I'm going to play
by the rules that exist. You know, you only get
your one shot with your kid, I suppose. But it's
a crime. It's crime.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It appears, according to Jeffrey Goldberg's account of this, that
it was by accident from Mike Waltz, the National Security Advisor,
and at first, he says.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He didn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
He thought it was a fake phishing attempt, and that
continued even as big names were added. It is Pete,
hegseeth a Defense Secretary, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Mike Waltz,
the National Security Advisor, and he only believed it was
real as he watched what seemed to be classified information
about weapons packages target packages for the first US strikes
and Yemen. He knew it was real when the bombs
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started hitting on Q.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So that's CNN's report on how this whole thing happened.
This text chat thread, I don't know what you're supposed
to call it. There's a whole bunch of uh chat
options out there. Apps you can use that messaging apps. Yeah,
I used one yesterday for the first time. I'd never
(19:10):
even heard of. I remember a telegraph or something like
I've never heard of. Some guy said, we're discussing business
and numbers and like sending credit card information. Can we
go to I think he said telegraph? I said, what
the hell's telegraph? And I downloaded the app? And then yeah,
you can text back and forth and it's encrypted and
then everything disappears after a certain number of hours, and
(19:30):
as opposed to like your regular text t which are
all stored forever somewhere.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I guess I don't know, right, that's the appeal of
Is it Snapchat for the youngsters?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Or was last week? Who? Why aren't before we get
into this scandal, why aren't most of us using one
of these for most of our communications, or maybe most
people younger than me are. Why do I use just
regular old Apple iPhone AT and T texting as opposed
to with any of my those friends where we often make,
(20:02):
you know, talk about things that are private, whether it's
jokes or gossip or financial facts or whatever the hell
it's stuff you don't want to get out there? Why
why doesn't it do most of you all? Like, do
you and your husband and your friends? Are you all
on telegraph or what's this one uh signal? Are you
(20:23):
all doing it that way while the rest of us
roobs are on the easily hackable regular text line. I
don't know that. So far, so good? Yeah, I mean
theol nothing's ever happened to me? Yeah, AnyWho. So this
Atlantic journalist, he's a big time journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, is
respected by the you know, the liberal media community. He
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back to you, he accidentally, somehow, nobody's exactly sure why yet,
gets invited on with the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary
of State, the Vice President, the DNI, the head of
the CIA. While they're having this conversation about attacking the
Hoho thies and whether or not we should and once
they decided we were, the various methods and everything they're
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going to go about it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Just in bad bouncing the Euros and talking about what
weenies they are.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Just coincidentally, today, though Senate Intelligence Committee is grilling all
these people about what the big threats are around the world.
So it's turned into kind of a dig into this
scandal and see what was going on. So here's Mark Warner,
He's the Democratic chair. Democrats have something to talk about
for the first time that isn't how much they suck.
(21:38):
They're very excited about it. Something to attack their how
exciting AOC is, right. So Mark Warner, Democrat co chair
of the committee, he's talking to what's Radcliffe. Let's what's
his position? He's the CIA guy. Uh that sounds right? Yeah?
Is that right? Anson? Is he the head of the CIA?
Whatever he is, he's being the key is he's being
(21:59):
director of the CIA. Okay, there you go. I guess
you correctly. Here's that conversation from just, you know, moments ago,
so that we're clear.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
One of the first things that happened when I was
confirmed as CIA director was signal was loaded onto my
computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers.
One of the things that I was briefed on very early,
Senator was by the CIA records management folks about the
use of signal as a permissible work use. It is
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that is a practice that preceded the current administration. To
the Biden mantcorrectly, I've got a series of questions. I
do you if you're making the state point, Well, if you're.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Making the statement the signal is a secure channel.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
No contest, and I answer that it is decryption. So
it is it is permissible to use to communicate and
coordinate for work purposes, provided provided Senator that any decisions
that are made are also recorded through formal channels. So
those were procedures that were implemented on My staff implemented
(23:07):
those processes, followed those processes, complied with the saying, and
finally just please so my communications, to be clear in
a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and
did not include classified information.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We were well, okay, here's it. So it didn't mentally interesting, Yeah,
I'd say so, we didn't mention that. That's been one
of the big controversies of the day. So is this
messaging app signal completely crazy for these people to be
using unheard of it's sloppy and just nuts that they
were communicating on it, or as some people have said,
(23:46):
everybody does it all the time. It's like common and DC.
Well there you got to see IA director saying as
soon as I got confirmed, they downloaded it under my
computer because everybody use of it and it's approved. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How interesting. It's as if politicians lie a lot and
the media sucks. You got both?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh oh true, true? How interesting. Yeah, the inclusion of
mister Goldberg is indisputably an error and an odd one. Now,
are you still hanging with your theory you expressed earlier.
I'll let you, you know, take the floor and say
what you said. There is some a theory would be
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that Waltz who is very pro supporting Israel against Tomas.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is Michael Waltz, the National Security Advisor, very very
smart guy. Not Tim Walls, the Minnesotan moron.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now, this is the National Security Advisor who I think
put together this signal chat with all these people, and
he accidentally included Goldberg because he regularly is communicating with Goldberg,
like leaking stuff to Goldberg, because Goldberg, as a Jewish man,
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is in big and supporting Israel also. And that's just
how he gets his side of the story out. That's
a common thing people in administrations. Do you get your
side of the story out to the New York Times
or the Atlantic or whoever anonymously to try to push
conversations different directions. That makes sense now, somebody pushed back
(25:27):
on that with a decent Oh, darn it, my son's
trying to call I'm sure there is some tragedy going on.
I will try to call him back. During the commercials,
a person pointed out, and this is a decent question.
If Goldberg and Waltz are so close, why is Goldberg
throwing him under the bus. You wouldn't think if you've
got that close a line directly to the president, who's
(25:52):
feeding you information, so you have all these exclusives that
you would burn that right. Right.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's interesting Goldberg's behavior because he has not published in
detail a lot of the sensitive stuff in the conversation,
but we know a lot of who said, what, what
their attitude was, and they're a bunch of quotes, so
it's not clear to me did he like half put
it out?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But you're right.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Anyway back to the theory and the counter to the theory,
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, you would not if you had if I.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
As a quote unquote journalist, had a source as high
up as the Director of National Security.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And in your set for all long that you might
be set for the rest of the presidential term.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Right with fantastic access. No, you would not torch that
bridge unless it was such a blockbuster. I mean, it'd
have to be Watergate sized.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And this is not that this is not Watergate size,
but it's pretty big. I mean, it's the news story
of the day. Certainly, I'll tell you what the significance
of this is.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And I'd made the comparison earlier of you know, in
our business, sometimes you will accidentally leave a microphone on,
or somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Will and you'll, oh, my god, what we've.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Been saying for the last several minutes has been broadcast,
say during a commercial break, who said, what, Oh my god,
Oh my god, is our career over? And in this case,
it seems like the access to Goldberg is the or
the giving access to Goldberg is leaving the microphone on.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And what was said was.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
A really interesting debate about foreign policy in the houthis
and shipping lanes and the America, America's role in the world,
and a little bit of bad mouthing of Europe, but
nothing you can't bounce back from. Nobody made a really
really off color joke or a racial joke in front
of the open microphone. We did not disclose a secret
(27:41):
plan to counter China in the Taiwan Straits or something
equally impactful. This was the dog that did not bark.
It just whimpered a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I don't know. I don't know how things usually work.
I am surprised that this is not we all get
together in a room, face to face, highly secure to
have these sorts of discussions. I'm surprised that they have
any sort of mechanism where they're chating. I mean, given
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the way that China has ACKed into practically everything, or
the Russians, or the North Koreans, or the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If you although I'm not sure, I would love to
have described to me where's this Where in the discussion
they were that this string captures because I get the
sense that the policy had been decided.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Trump had said go ahead and do the strikes.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Jd Vance had some reservations and if you did not
hear our thorough going through of who said what in
the whole team of rivals, nature of the discussion super
super interesting. That was our two of the show today,
Grab It by Podcast Armstrong and Gettyion Demand. I think
it's the second half of the hour, but trust me
when I say it's worth a listen because it's really interesting.
(28:56):
But I think it was the advisors kicking around. Do
we go ahead or do we ask for one more
hearing in front of the president about the pros and cons?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It wasn't. Well, according to Goldberg, do it includes I
mean I got a clip about that somewhere. It includes
a lot of pretty detailed details. Mm hmm. Yeah, what
we would attack and how and what order and all
that different sort of stuff, right, and specific targets. That's right. Yeah.
And I would think just with the people that are
on there, Vice President, sec Deaf, Secretary of State, CIA
(29:30):
Director d and I, I mean that's I would think
anytime they talk about something it would be highly protected.
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Maybeeah, yeah, yeah, I see your point, and I can't
say you're wrong. It was shockingly sloppy to accidentally have
a completely unqualified, unsworn, non security clearance journalist on there.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
It was just a nightmare. Oh you get For instance,
what was I listened to one of your one of
your comedy shows. I thing goes the Daily Show, Daily Show.
Last week John Stewart mentioned on there, well, we bombed
the Hoho Thys, we bombed Yemen again, and everybody booed
in the crowd because they don't like, you know, bombing
(30:23):
people that super lefty. They're jobs. But uh uh, do
you've anything Trump does this? Yeah? Sure, you get a journalist,
so say it was gonna bomb amass, you get a
journalist who hates that. And there are a lot of
journalists that do. They leak that immediately, maybe directly to Amos.
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I mean that is not out of the question in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Right, yeah, if you're that Washington Post gal I mentioned
earlier and is worth right.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So that could have been horrific. You're right, is the
dog that didn't bark? It could have been so bad.
This is like when you accidentally text the wrong person
and it's baniw you know, but you wereize. Okay, this
is a good warning. I need to be more captful
before I presentd on all my texts. Right.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Imagine if it had been a covert mission of the
Navy seals or something like that, right, yeah, they'll you know,
hit the Port of Aid and at two am or
what have you.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh, could have been the worst of scandals. People, you know,
US service people dying and everything. Oh my god, Okay,
we got other stuff on the way that's not so heavy.
Stay after saying is a tax on Tesla were just
a joke? Tim Waltz said that Republicans have no sense
of humor. I don't know, Tim, Millions of us laughed
(31:44):
our asses off on election nights. Yeah, so last week
when Tim Walls did that routine on stage, we played
it about you have the Tesla app. I put it
on my phone just to cheer myself up every day
and check and say, oh look it's down again. I
will be gone soon. Yay in the crowd share laughing
(32:05):
about the demise of an electric car company when climate
change is the number one threat to the world according
to you. Anyway, that aside, I thought this report on
Tesla on ABC last night was interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
After dozens of violent incidents against Tesla's across the country,
the FBI announcing it's launching a new task force comprised
of counter terrorism agents to investigate who's targeting dealerships, cars,
and charging stations, the FBI saying there's been at least
forty eight instances in more than nine states since January,
(32:41):
including arson, gunfire, and graffiti. The FBI now urging Americans
to be vigilant around Tesla locations.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
How about fact, Wait a minute, I'm not visiting the
Sinaloa area of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm walking by a Tesla dealer, right, which is you
next to other major car dealers. The FBI says, be
careful if you're near a Testel dealership. And we're just
gonna think, well, you know, that's the way life is.
That is something domestic terrorism being treated like it just yea,
(33:19):
kids are kids are angry trans men or angry transmen
or women or whichever direction it is. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Uh yeah, graffiti I see differently than fire bombing.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, well it depends on how about if how about
if it's swastik is and uh, you know, threats still,
that's still still threats is different. Swastik is a stupid
It is stupid. You're an idiot. Saw this headline on CNN,
(33:55):
Canna Moom on the rise, the rise of Canna Moom's.
Oh boy, another trend. Wait, another cuccy name, another combining
a couple of words into one. We just friend that'll
be gone by Thursday. Mom says weed. Moms who say
weed helps them be better, moms helps me stay patient.
(34:18):
Oh cannabis moms. Hannah mom's wasn't it moms microdosing mushrooms.
Like three weeks ago, they moved on to the hippie lettuce.
You're smoking pot during the day. It makes you a
better mom, so you can stay patient. Well, I could
see it mellowing you out. I'm not sure it's a
great idea. I don't think it probably is. You might
(34:41):
want to get to the root causes of you're so
upset mom or dad with the kids. You hate to
smoke weed. Kids are much too hard today.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I hear every mother say the Rolling Stones, Mother's Little
help for nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think, come on, ladies, put down the gonge and
pick up the something or other. I didn't finish that
one in events, But to be a parent. I was
driving by a park the other day. Did I already
say this on the air? I can't remember what I
say and what I think. I was driving by a
park the other day and thinking about when it was
when the kids were like seven and five or whatever
or younger. No, I had to do this, you know,
(35:18):
a beautiful day. I take him to the park and
they were so pleased, they were so pleased to be there.
I mean, just just a regular run of the mill.
It's got a swing set, a slide of nothing fancy
happened in here, and they were so damned happy with that.
Now now the level of driving, if I'm happiness, the
bar is much higher. Oh great, dad, a park that's
so late.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, So next hour, more science, new science. Did we
need more science on the divide between the sexes in sports?
The idea that dudes are competing in girls' sports and
saying it's okay because he has a wig on is
one of the stupidest ideas ever to infect the planet.
(36:02):
It needs to end like yesterday, Gavin Newsom, we.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Do four hours every day. If you miss a segment
or an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on
demand our four on the Way. Subscribe Yeah, Armstrong and
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Yetty. A
New York Post, Now that's a good one. Got a
headline that says, chef reveals common mistake people make when
trying to make perfect bacon. See I would click on
(00:32):
that you have chef fired because her boobs were too big.
I'm not going to click on that one. All right,
New York Post, What if.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A particularly large breasted chef could solve your bacon?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Wolles, I got two little short, funny things here. I'm
not going to give you the background. You either know
what this is about or nuts the new story of
the day. You know, go back and listen to early
segments if you want to know what we've said about
that Armstrong and Getty on demand. First, this break news
District judge has just ruled Jeffrey Goldberg must be added
back into signal chat, which is funny. And this and
(01:08):
this uh communication from forty four BC. We just have
the initials of the names g cashus. We've agreed. March
fifteenth is a day m brutus. I guess we have
to Cassius. Don't forget your daggers, j Caesar. Guys, that's
(01:31):
pretty funny. Yeah, I've forgotten the name of the uh,
what's the what's the messaging service again? Signal? Signal? Okay,
you know, there's just down. There's one breaking little piece
here that's worth mentioning Byron new York of the Is
(01:53):
he what the examiner? I think so Waltz is telling
colleagues that he is never we're met or talked to
Jeffrey Goldberg ever, So if that's true, how the hell
did he get added into the conversation?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But that again sounds like a loyally denial to me.
He's emailed with him. Okay, anyway, so your choice shack,
because I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
They're both great. What do you want to hear? First?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The World Happiness Report is a sham. I just waved
in our face.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Again, as it is every year about how happy they
are in Scandinavia or whatever. We were our lowest ranking
ever or something like that. We're twenty fourth, I think, yes,
So that's a choice number one. The whole the World
Happiness Report is a sham.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
The media loves hyping the annual study, but its methodology
doesn't hold up to scrutiny or shock. Also not a shock,
but troubling. Have we really passed peak brain power? There's
a compelling case that we're getting dumb as a species.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I feel like I'm dumber than I was last week.
Not on an individual basis, Jack, but is a species.
Although you're not helping Franklin. Whoa the college kids? Yeah,
go ahead play that the ninety isn't Michael? Who do
the colonists fight in the Revolutionary War? God? In the revolution?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It was?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh, I don't know if this is right. I mean,
it sounds so stupid? Was it the Spanish? Wait? What
are your majors? Business? Biology, elementary education? Oh? They're actually
they're asking actual college students at spring break these questions.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Have we ever had a female vice president in the
United States?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yes, Hillary Clinton?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
What continent is Mexico located in? If you go south Mexico,
it's in Australia.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Wait hold on, no, no, no, no, it's in the wait Mexico.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Wait are we talking about the same Mexico? Can you
name the seven continents? Yes? North America, South America, Asia, Europe.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know there's another one, Canada.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
At least he could get started. I mean the colonists
fighting the Spanish. Who could forget the Boston piea party
when we threw the pie end of the Bay to
protest the taxes.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And this probably politically active college student who has very
strong opinions on things, believes Hilary Clinton was vice president? Hm?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So have we really passed peak brain power? Are we
getting dumber? The data tell a worrying tale. We'll get
to the happiness index some other time.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Human cognitive capabilities appeared to be in retreat according to
the New Analytical Peace in the Financial Times by John
Byrne Murdock, of humans past peak brain power, I was paywalled,
so I went with this account of the account instent.
So since twenty twelve, scores in reasoning and problem solving
have fallen precipitously across benchmark tests in rich countries. The
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share of eighteen year olds reporting difficulty thinking and concentrating
has climbed steadily since the mid twenty tens. Gee, I
wonder why that might be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, don't kidding that kind of that's all right?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
The most striking perhaps is that twenty five percent of
adults in high income countries and thirty five percent in
America now struggle with basic mathematical reasoning. But what's changed
is not human biology. Don't blame de evolution, chemtrails or microplastics.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I'm still an idiocracy guy. I think de evolution is happening.
Butting and seed oils, that's right, you got it, you
gave it away. It's behavior that's changed. Reading rates have plummeted.
Feerd and a half of Americans read a book in
twenty twenty two. Does getting like twenty two pages in
(05:59):
count fewer than half read ab book correct in a year.
Yet this represents merely one facet of a broader phenomenon,
the erosion of sustained mental focus.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, I worry about that all the time. I know
mine is way worse. I mean, there's no doubt about it.
We talk about it all the time. I read so
much less than on YouTube long form because I can't.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The culprit appears to be and if you need to
hear the end of this sentence, you're one of the
stupid people dragging us down. The culprit appears to be
our newly passive relationship with information rather than self directed exploration.
It just comes to us web surfing goods, scrolling bad.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
God, I've got to fight that. I've got to got
to get better at fighting the scrolling. Damn it. It's
so easy to get sucked in, just those tiny little
shots of endorphins.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Just it's yeah, I can feel it, and I feel
how insidious it is. The problem is it's easier said
than done fighting against it. This is my great revelations
that I had to myself a week ago. If you're
old enough to remember having like one hundred and fifty
cable channels and you just kept flipping through and nothing
was interesting, Flip, flip flip, How is there nothing good on?
I have one hundred and fifty channels. Now it's the opposite,
(07:16):
you flip. Everything's good, everything's good. This is something I want.
This is something I want.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
This is something I want right because the algorithm figured
out what I want. The best minds of our time
are devoted to addicting us to dopey little shots of
so indifferent. So I have to make the conscious decision, yes,
this is good rare concert footage. I've never seen before,
or this is hilarious, you know, stand up, I haven't
(07:42):
seen before or whatever. It's all stuff I want, but
I've got to do other things. I can't only do this.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, the dividing line for me is just being entertained.
I will say, this is not the part of my
day where I have time to be entertained. I need
to be productive. But anyway, y'all approach it the way
it works for you. But a little more from the piece,
which I thought was very interesting and allegedly there is
some encouraging news too. But we've moved from finite web
(08:14):
pages to infinite constantly refreshed feeds and a constant brage
of notifications. We no longer spend as much time actively
browsing the web and interacting with people we know, but
instead are presented with a torrent of content. This represents
a move from self directed behavior to passive consumption. Constant
context switching. Research finds that active intentional use of digital
(08:35):
technologies is often benign or even beneficial. So you know,
I've called for unplugging the Internet over and over again,
only half seriously.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But it's not the Internet per se.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Whereas the behaviors that have taken off in recent years,
have been shown to affect everything from our ability to
process verbal information to attention, working memory, and self regulation.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh my god, that's horrifying.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
There passively with our intellectual mouth open and being fed
like a baby bird as opposed to going and hunting
down our prey is killing us. In short, though the
fundamental human capacity for intelligence remains intact, its execution is
increasingly compromised by our habits.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
So the big question that we ask at least four
times a week, it seems, do we arrest this development
as human beings or is it just going to take over?
And those of us who remember the before times are
all dead And there won't be anybody around to even
(09:41):
talk about this because they don't know any other way.
I mean, it won't be what twenty thirty years, There
will hardly be anybody left who remembers what your brain
was like before this, So who would complain? So some
notes of prospective and or hope will let you, good folks,
be the your to how significant all of this is?
(10:03):
Blah blah blah. Digital revolt.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
A rebellion may already be brewing, and not just among
parents who now regret giving their pre sixteen year old smartphones.
Surveys revealed it around half of gen z Wish's social
media platforms didn't exist. Young people are increasingly modifying their
digital behaviors, with flip phones making comeback and offlining gaining
popularity again to what extent.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't I haven't seen this, and maybe it's happening,
but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, I'm aware of the Amish, but I don't think
you know wagon driving is about to supplant the cars
in their pollution.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Funny you say that it was hot in our house
the other day and Henry wanted me to turn the
air conditioner on. I said, we're not gonna turn on
the air conditioner. It's like seventy two degrees outside. Let's
open the windows and get some air going. He said,
what are we amish?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I guess we're Amish. Now that's an odd protest.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Anyway, this author rights perhaps were approaching an inflection point
where the pursuit of mental clarity and sustained attention could
once again and become valued social currency. And how about
the idea of cognitive adaptation. Perhaps what we're seeing is
in deterioration, but specialization as calculators want freed mental capacity
from arithmetic, which is still useful, though today's digital tools
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allow humans to outsource memory and routine processing, liberating cognitive
resources for higher functions. Ah, is that what the kids
were doing on the beach.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, I'm not feeling that in my own life that
this is allowing me to have a higher function of
something else by not happy to remember certain things.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, give me clip number ninety two and you can
be the judge of whether this is liberating cognitive resources
for higher functions.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Who won the Civil War? Oh, shoot, it's East or West? Right, Well,
it's the Civil War, so it's the civilians versus whoever
was in power. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Justices? Like,
when you say that, you mean like that, bi.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How do you know liberating cognitive resources for higher function?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
How did you possibly graduate high school without that knowledge?
How are you in college with that with It's just stunning.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
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There's no safe, like simply say. It is interesting though,
if people have become so scatterbrained and dumb, and I
think that is true. Why it's still so hard to
get ahead? I mean, you know, there's a lot of
twenty eight year olds out there trying to climb the
ladder and it ain't easy. You'd think it be easier.
People are so dumb.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I think if you are not dumb and can focus
and look someone in the eye and shake their hand
and are not afraid of conversing, you have a really
good chance in life. Hang in there. Success always takes
longer than you think it's going to You'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Any thoughts text line four one five kftc arm Strong.
Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez are getting married this summer
and they just sent out their wedding invites. Yeah, it's
gonna be great. Thanks to Amazon, the caple arriving, thirty
eight separate boxes, two year engagement, finally getting around the wedding.
(14:08):
Bet that's gonna be a good party. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
There have been various rumors going around about how many
gazillions of dollars are being spent on that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Probably not a cash bar, so that's helpful. A couple
of sports related notes. Don't worry if you're not a
sports fan. Won't last long. No Cinderella is this year
in the sweet sixteen and CAA tournament's all the superpower
conferences superpower teams. Is it a fluke or the new
reality in college sports where all the kids can change
(14:37):
teams kids they're young adults every year depending on who
has the most nil money to the big conferences.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Don't know?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
All sixteen entrants come from the four swanky power conferences,
not self word swanky. More often the SEC has seven teams,
the Big Ten has four, the Big twelve has four,
and the ACT the ACC one team which is sadly
duke that writes Jason Gay the Wall Street Journal sadly.
(15:08):
And then this note which I thought was interesting. This
is Joe Joe Getty. That's Jack Armstrong over there. Welcome,
good to meet you. I was an athlete as a kid,
fairly serious athlete, and I thought my kids would be too,
but they weren't. They're all, you know, fairly casual rec
league athletes and had fun but didn't take it seriously,
which is perfectly fine. And I saw a lot of
(15:30):
my contemporaries have their lives dominated by youth travel sports.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I would be super into it and everything. If one
of my kids was really into it, but the fact
that they're not doesn't break my heart. Observing other parents,
right who have their lives dominated by a kid who's
a good athlete.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah yeah, because I have a life too and I
feel like living it. But anyway, you know, this is
a teach throne. And I actually know some folks whose
kids actually became college athletes and now they've continued it
and they spend a lot of weekends on the road
watching their kid play lacrosse or whatever. You know, great families.
But anyway, I thought this is really really interesting. There's
a big lawsuit going on right now and a bust
(16:13):
and this has to do with hockey, which is one
of the sports I played. And folks from northern climbs
get how big youth hockey, travel hockey is. The leagues,
the private leagues. It's like the one on the ice, right,
that is the one on the ice, that's right. It's
like back in the day high school sports really mattered.
(16:34):
Now it's all about the club teams. Like in basketball,
what's the organization flitted out of my head, AAU exactly, Yeah,
And with hockey, it's these private organizations. It's not playing
for your high school team that brings you to the
Scouts attention anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But these big.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Tournaments that you have to be at to be seen in,
all the organizers of it assign these sweetheart deals with
hotels where you have to stay at the hotel really
to play.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
In the tournament wow, with minimums for food and blah
blah blah, often at exorbitant rates. And I didn't know that.
You don't get to shop around pick your hotel room
at whatever price you want to spend that stay to play.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
They call it wow. Yes, and what's worse than that?
The organizers of the tournaments, well, you know what I'm
about to give away the man behind the curtain. So
but you can go to these websites that will consolidate
and find you this, that and the other and the
group rates blah blah blah. Well, the guys who organize
the tournaments, those are the guys behind the websites. So
(17:42):
they are getting like a double kickback and really sticking
the screws to the would be my kid's going to
be get a scholarship and be a star parents.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It's a giant racket. Yeah, not surprising.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Praying on folks enthusiasm desperation for their kid to get
a scholar ship end or some sort of same.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
To a certain extent, maybe if this is the way
it is, you know, I wish it weren't that way,
and maybe it'll change someday. But I'm going to play
by the rules that exist. You know, you only get
your one shot with your kid, I suppose. But it's
a crime. It's crime.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
It appears, according to Jeffrey Goldberg's account of this, that
it was by accident from Mike Waltz, the National Security Advisor,
and at first, he says.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
He didn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
He thought it was a fake phishing attempt, and that
continued even as big names were added. It is Pete,
hegseeth a Defense Secretary, Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Mike Waltz,
the National Security Advisor, and he only believed it was
real as he watched what seemed to be classified information
about weapons packages target packages for the first US strikes
and Yemen. He knew it was real when the bombs
(18:45):
started hitting on Q.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
So that's CNN's report on how this whole thing happened.
This text chat thread, I don't know what you're supposed
to call it. There's a whole bunch of uh chat
options out there. Apps you can use that messaging apps. Yeah,
I used one yesterday for the first time. I'd never
(19:10):
even heard of. I remember a telegraph or something like
I've never heard of. Some guy said, we're discussing business
and numbers and like sending credit card information. Can we
go to I think he said telegraph? I said, what
the hell's telegraph? And I downloaded the app? And then yeah,
you can text back and forth and it's encrypted and
then everything disappears after a certain number of hours, and
(19:30):
as opposed to like your regular text t which are
all stored forever somewhere.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I guess I don't know, right, that's the appeal of
Is it Snapchat for the youngsters?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Or was last week? Who? Why aren't before we get
into this scandal, why aren't most of us using one
of these for most of our communications, or maybe most
people younger than me are. Why do I use just
regular old Apple iPhone AT and T texting as opposed
to with any of my those friends where we often make,
(20:02):
you know, talk about things that are private, whether it's
jokes or gossip or financial facts or whatever the hell
it's stuff you don't want to get out there? Why
why doesn't it do most of you all? Like, do
you and your husband and your friends? Are you all
on telegraph or what's this one uh signal? Are you
(20:23):
all doing it that way while the rest of us
roobs are on the easily hackable regular text line. I
don't know that. So far, so good? Yeah, I mean
theol nothing's ever happened to me? Yeah, AnyWho. So this
Atlantic journalist, he's a big time journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, is
respected by the you know, the liberal media community. He
(20:45):
back to you, he accidentally, somehow, nobody's exactly sure why yet,
gets invited on with the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary
of State, the Vice President, the DNI, the head of
the CIA. While they're having this conversation about attacking the
Hoho thies and whether or not we should and once
they decided we were, the various methods and everything they're
(21:08):
going to go about it.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Just in bad bouncing the Euros and talking about what
weenies they are.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Just coincidentally, today, though Senate Intelligence Committee is grilling all
these people about what the big threats are around the world.
So it's turned into kind of a dig into this
scandal and see what was going on. So here's Mark Warner,
He's the Democratic chair. Democrats have something to talk about
for the first time that isn't how much they suck.
(21:38):
They're very excited about it. Something to attack their how
exciting AOC is, right. So Mark Warner, Democrat co chair
of the committee, he's talking to what's Radcliffe. Let's what's
his position? He's the CIA guy. Uh that sounds right? Yeah?
Is that right? Anson? Is he the head of the CIA?
Whatever he is, he's being the key is he's being
(21:59):
director of the CIA. Okay, there you go. I guess
you correctly. Here's that conversation from just, you know, moments ago,
so that we're clear.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
One of the first things that happened when I was
confirmed as CIA director was signal was loaded onto my
computer at the CIA, as it is for most CIA officers.
One of the things that I was briefed on very early,
Senator was by the CIA records management folks about the
use of signal as a permissible work use. It is
(22:29):
that is a practice that preceded the current administration. To
the Biden mantcorrectly, I've got a series of questions. I
do you if you're making the state point, Well, if you're.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Making the statement the signal is a secure channel.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
No contest, and I answer that it is decryption. So
it is it is permissible to use to communicate and
coordinate for work purposes, provided provided Senator that any decisions
that are made are also recorded through formal channels. So
those were procedures that were implemented on My staff implemented
(23:07):
those processes, followed those processes, complied with the saying, and
finally just please so my communications, to be clear in
a signal message group were entirely permissible and lawful and
did not include classified information.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
We were well, okay, here's it. So it didn't mentally interesting, Yeah,
I'd say so, we didn't mention that. That's been one
of the big controversies of the day. So is this
messaging app signal completely crazy for these people to be
using unheard of it's sloppy and just nuts that they
were communicating on it, or as some people have said,
(23:46):
everybody does it all the time. It's like common and DC.
Well there you got to see IA director saying as
soon as I got confirmed, they downloaded it under my
computer because everybody use of it and it's approved. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
How interesting. It's as if politicians lie a lot and
the media sucks. You got both?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Oh oh true, true? How interesting. Yeah, the inclusion of
mister Goldberg is indisputably an error and an odd one. Now,
are you still hanging with your theory you expressed earlier.
I'll let you, you know, take the floor and say
what you said. There is some a theory would be
(24:28):
that Waltz who is very pro supporting Israel against Tomas.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is Michael Waltz, the National Security Advisor, very very
smart guy. Not Tim Walls, the Minnesotan moron.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now, this is the National Security Advisor who I think
put together this signal chat with all these people, and
he accidentally included Goldberg because he regularly is communicating with Goldberg,
like leaking stuff to Goldberg, because Goldberg, as a Jewish man,
(25:06):
is in big and supporting Israel also. And that's just
how he gets his side of the story out. That's
a common thing people in administrations. Do you get your
side of the story out to the New York Times
or the Atlantic or whoever anonymously to try to push
conversations different directions. That makes sense now, somebody pushed back
(25:27):
on that with a decent Oh, darn it, my son's
trying to call I'm sure there is some tragedy going on.
I will try to call him back. During the commercials,
a person pointed out, and this is a decent question.
If Goldberg and Waltz are so close, why is Goldberg
throwing him under the bus. You wouldn't think if you've
got that close a line directly to the president, who's
(25:52):
feeding you information, so you have all these exclusives that
you would burn that right. Right.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It's interesting Goldberg's behavior because he has not published in
detail a lot of the sensitive stuff in the conversation,
but we know a lot of who said, what, what
their attitude was, and they're a bunch of quotes, so
it's not clear to me did he like half put
it out?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But you're right.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Anyway back to the theory and the counter to the theory,
that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, you would not if you had if I.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
As a quote unquote journalist, had a source as high
up as the Director of National Security.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And in your set for all long that you might
be set for the rest of the presidential term.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Right with fantastic access. No, you would not torch that
bridge unless it was such a blockbuster. I mean, it'd
have to be Watergate sized.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
And this is not that this is not Watergate size,
but it's pretty big. I mean, it's the news story
of the day. Certainly, I'll tell you what the significance
of this is.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
And I'd made the comparison earlier of you know, in
our business, sometimes you will accidentally leave a microphone on,
or somebody.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Will and you'll, oh, my god, what we've.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Been saying for the last several minutes has been broadcast,
say during a commercial break, who said, what, Oh my god,
Oh my god, is our career over? And in this case,
it seems like the access to Goldberg is the or
the giving access to Goldberg is leaving the microphone on.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
And what was said was.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
A really interesting debate about foreign policy in the houthis
and shipping lanes and the America, America's role in the world,
and a little bit of bad mouthing of Europe, but
nothing you can't bounce back from. Nobody made a really
really off color joke or a racial joke in front
of the open microphone. We did not disclose a secret
(27:41):
plan to counter China in the Taiwan Straits or something
equally impactful. This was the dog that did not bark.
It just whimpered a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I don't know. I don't know how things usually work.
I am surprised that this is not we all get
together in a room, face to face, highly secure to
have these sorts of discussions. I'm surprised that they have
any sort of mechanism where they're chating. I mean, given
(28:13):
the way that China has ACKed into practically everything, or
the Russians, or the North Koreans, or the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
If you although I'm not sure, I would love to
have described to me where's this Where in the discussion
they were that this string captures because I get the
sense that the policy had been decided.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Trump had said go ahead and do the strikes.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Jd Vance had some reservations and if you did not
hear our thorough going through of who said what in
the whole team of rivals, nature of the discussion super
super interesting. That was our two of the show today,
Grab It by Podcast Armstrong and Gettyion Demand. I think
it's the second half of the hour, but trust me
when I say it's worth a listen because it's really interesting.
(28:56):
But I think it was the advisors kicking around. Do
we go ahead or do we ask for one more
hearing in front of the president about the pros and cons?
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It wasn't. Well, according to Goldberg, do it includes I
mean I got a clip about that somewhere. It includes
a lot of pretty detailed details. Mm hmm. Yeah, what
we would attack and how and what order and all
that different sort of stuff, right, and specific targets. That's right. Yeah.
And I would think just with the people that are
on there, Vice President, sec Deaf, Secretary of State, CIA
(29:30):
Director d and I, I mean that's I would think
anytime they talk about something it would be highly protected.
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Maybeeah, yeah, yeah, I see your point, and I can't
say you're wrong. It was shockingly sloppy to accidentally have
a completely unqualified, unsworn, non security clearance journalist on there.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
It was just a nightmare. Oh you get For instance,
what was I listened to one of your one of
your comedy shows. I thing goes the Daily Show, Daily Show.
Last week John Stewart mentioned on there, well, we bombed
the Hoho Thys, we bombed Yemen again, and everybody booed
in the crowd because they don't like, you know, bombing
(30:23):
people that super lefty. They're jobs. But uh uh, do
you've anything Trump does this? Yeah? Sure, you get a journalist,
so say it was gonna bomb amass, you get a
journalist who hates that. And there are a lot of
journalists that do. They leak that immediately, maybe directly to Amos.
(30:44):
I mean that is not out of the question in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Right, yeah, if you're that Washington Post gal I mentioned
earlier and is worth right.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So that could have been horrific. You're right, is the
dog that didn't bark? It could have been so bad.
This is like when you accidentally text the wrong person
and it's baniw you know, but you wereize. Okay, this
is a good warning. I need to be more captful
before I presentd on all my texts. Right.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Imagine if it had been a covert mission of the
Navy seals or something like that, right, yeah, they'll you know,
hit the Port of Aid and at two am or
what have you.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh, could have been the worst of scandals. People, you know,
US service people dying and everything. Oh my god, Okay,
we got other stuff on the way that's not so heavy.
Stay after saying is a tax on Tesla were just
a joke? Tim Waltz said that Republicans have no sense
of humor. I don't know, Tim, Millions of us laughed
(31:44):
our asses off on election nights. Yeah, so last week
when Tim Walls did that routine on stage, we played
it about you have the Tesla app. I put it
on my phone just to cheer myself up every day
and check and say, oh look it's down again. I
will be gone soon. Yay in the crowd share laughing
(32:05):
about the demise of an electric car company when climate
change is the number one threat to the world according
to you. Anyway, that aside, I thought this report on
Tesla on ABC last night was interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
After dozens of violent incidents against Tesla's across the country,
the FBI announcing it's launching a new task force comprised
of counter terrorism agents to investigate who's targeting dealerships, cars,
and charging stations, the FBI saying there's been at least
forty eight instances in more than nine states since January,
(32:41):
including arson, gunfire, and graffiti. The FBI now urging Americans
to be vigilant around Tesla locations.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
How about fact, Wait a minute, I'm not visiting the
Sinaloa area of Mexico.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm walking by a Tesla dealer, right, which is you
next to other major car dealers. The FBI says, be
careful if you're near a Testel dealership. And we're just
gonna think, well, you know, that's the way life is.
That is something domestic terrorism being treated like it just yea,
(33:19):
kids are kids are angry trans men or angry transmen
or women or whichever direction it is. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Uh yeah, graffiti I see differently than fire bombing.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, well it depends on how about if how about
if it's swastik is and uh, you know, threats still,
that's still still threats is different. Swastik is a stupid
It is stupid. You're an idiot. Saw this headline on CNN,
(33:55):
Canna Moom on the rise, the rise of Canna Moom's.
Oh boy, another trend. Wait, another cuccy name, another combining
a couple of words into one. We just friend that'll
be gone by Thursday. Mom says weed. Moms who say
weed helps them be better, moms helps me stay patient.
(34:18):
Oh cannabis moms. Hannah mom's wasn't it moms microdosing mushrooms.
Like three weeks ago, they moved on to the hippie lettuce.
You're smoking pot during the day. It makes you a
better mom, so you can stay patient. Well, I could
see it mellowing you out. I'm not sure it's a
great idea. I don't think it probably is. You might
(34:41):
want to get to the root causes of you're so
upset mom or dad with the kids. You hate to
smoke weed. Kids are much too hard today.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I hear every mother say the Rolling Stones, Mother's Little
help for nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I think, come on, ladies, put down the gonge and
pick up the something or other. I didn't finish that
one in events, But to be a parent. I was
driving by a park the other day. Did I already
say this on the air? I can't remember what I
say and what I think. I was driving by a
park the other day and thinking about when it was
when the kids were like seven and five or whatever
or younger. No, I had to do this, you know,
(35:18):
a beautiful day. I take him to the park and
they were so pleased, they were so pleased to be there.
I mean, just just a regular run of the mill.
It's got a swing set, a slide of nothing fancy
happened in here, and they were so damned happy with that.
Now now the level of driving, if I'm happiness, the
bar is much higher. Oh great, dad, a park that's
so late.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, So next hour, more science, new science. Did we
need more science on the divide between the sexes in sports?
The idea that dudes are competing in girls' sports and
saying it's okay because he has a wig on is
one of the stupidest ideas ever to infect the planet.
(36:02):
It needs to end like yesterday, Gavin Newsom, we.
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