July 24, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour two of A&G features...
- The Nuts Curve...
- Mamdani for Mamdummies...
- Judge Larry Goodman on the Kohlberger Sentencing...
- Jack gets a late night call from his son.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and
Getty and no Hee Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Starbucks this week announced that it's Pumpkin Spice Latte. We'll
return on August twenty six, August. The only pumpkin spice
anyone wants in August is Pumpkins spice Catorade.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No kidding, That's what I thought when I heard that
you're bringing back. Okay, that's no summer flavor, you monsters?
Uh what do we got coming up later this hour?
It's pretty good mom dummy for mom dummies. Plus Judge
Larry are a good friend of the Armstrong and Getty show,
talking about the Idaho Monsters sentencing, hearing the victim impact
(00:59):
statements and the answered questions why are they unanswered?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Stay with us? Okay, hold me on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I got to screen capture something that the top app
on the app store now is something new that I'd
never heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So we'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Even if the show is being executed, it's still being formed.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is fascinating that to you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Here are two sets of statistics that are out that
are interesting We won't dwell on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We've talked about it a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The US fertility rate slumped to a new low last year.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The numbers are just out unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The United States was once among only a few developed
countries where the rate ensured that we were having enough
kids to like, you know, continue as the society, which
is about two point one kids per woman. Where now
we dipped below that. We're now way below at new low.
One point six kids per woman is our new uh.
(01:57):
Where we are now, We're now what we used to
look at with South Korea or various countries and.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Think, oh my god, they are doomed. That's not us.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's just going to say, we're now South Korea with
better baseball teams.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
In the sixties.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
By the way, when Joe and I were born, it
was about three point five.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Now one point six.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Wow, that is a major change in the structure of society,
like major You can't even overstate how big deal that is.
Yeah for them, for the way people you know, put
together their lives, spend their money.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The things that you care.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
About, right, politics are waves, demographics are the tide as
they say. It strikes me that my little joke about
baseball was really really appropriate because a lot of our
great baseball players are immigrants. And that is how the
United States population is not only stable but growing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's entirely immigration.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And that's because that's the only way if you assume
we must have economic growth, which appears to be the
assumption of the powerful.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, you got to do it through immigration.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
In countries like Japan that are extremely uncomfortable with immigration,
are really.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What's the expert, Well, they're doing poorly.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
One more stat on this before I move on to
the other stuff. Birth rates are declining for women in
all age groups. So it's just across the board, people
ain't having kids. As you say all the time, I
don't think you can say this enough because it's so interesting.
If this were happening to any other beast, we'd be
highly concerned and universal wills.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Science would be fixated on it. Yeah, if it were the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Vole or some sort of bird or whatever they just
stopped reproducing, we'd think.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Holy crap, that's got to be bad.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Why any animal would just all of a sudden stop reproducing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's got to be horrible. We need to figure this out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But for humans, we're just like, Eh, there's a lot
on TV and TikTok and what you know anyway, and
having kids just kind of bange the ass.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So I understand this mating season.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And we observed that the males were playing video games
and stoned and watching pornography of antelopes breeding, while the
women were screaming angrily in the streets about antelope rites
or how about the male buffalo can no longer get
an erection.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's the problem for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
While in the female flows out of her f and
mind right, which we hear from our young male correspondence
semi frequently. Dude, you have no idea how crazy it
is out here. You talk to a girl for twenty
minutes and it's like, holy cow, it's Jay Guavera's daughter. Oh,
somebody who's explaining to me the other day about dating
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on one of your online websites. And that's where sixty
percent of people meet now in the modern world. I
think they were discussing bumble, the percentage of women who
have pronouns in their little the very top line bio
where you have like the most basic stuff have their
pronouns in there, and how it's just you know, For
some people that's an automatic no, so you just go
(05:04):
through no, no, no, no, It doesn't matter what else
is on there if you got pronouns in there, so
there you go. Yeah, I got through third grade, so
I know which pronouns to use for you, so I
don't need your help.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Obviously, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's an indicator of a lot more that probably comes
with the pronoun package. Oh I know that. You know,
it's probably probably comes with being ry ry had the
list of things that come with that package would be
a lot. It's a pretty damn good indicator, as you say,
I mean, it's like really helpful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Maybe no, you're one of those I don't know. I
was thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Maybe not though it could It could be a I
just thought you were supposed to do this, so I did.
And it doesn't really include a deep belief in that
sort of thing, but it might, and it say.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Is it worth taking the chance?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I would say the lads applying those waters these
days have decided to use that as an indicator, so
they would know better than me.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Uh, So I wanted to get to this. This is
so you can feel superior or inferior. To others, which
is really, you know what a great hobby that is. Yes,
Fox Newpoll Newspole highly respected polling organization. Percentage of people
rating their personal financial situation is excellent or good. So
think for yourself. Do you feel like your financial situation
is excellent or good? I feel like it's kind of
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interesting that the highest number they ever had, and I
don't know how many years they've been asking this question,
probably not that long, but the highest number was June
of two thousand and four, right before the crash, sixty
two percent of Americans described their personal financial situation is
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excellent or good, almost two thirds.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That is something, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, I'm casting my memory back to those days. Yeah,
that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The low had been.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
The low came almost exactly twenty years later, in May
of twenty twenty three, thirty four percent. So that have
been coming out of COVID all the inflation everything else.
Oh yes, right, yeah, thirty four percent, so half as
many people saying excellent are good.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Then in May of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You may recall economist Joe Getty saying at the time,
if inflation is high, nothing else matters. Yeah, we've crawled
out of that to a certain extent, not a lot.
The most recent numbers are from March of twenty twenty five.
It must take a while to compile these. At thirty
nine percent, thirty nine percent of people say good or excellent.
(07:42):
That's not very high, not even good. You don't even
consider your personal financial situation good. That's not that's not good.
In the markets, and many Americans are invested, whether through
four to one k's or whatever, in the markets. The
markets are insanely high right now, records every day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, what did you have a You know, this is
all an.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Emotion, is not all, but a lot of It's an
emotional reaction as opposed to a specific nuts and boat.
Don't you think specific documented if you sat down with
your numbers, you would say I'm behind or a head
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Isn't an emotional feeling. So why do you think it's
so low currently?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uncertainty? I just think there's so much uncertainty in the air,
whether it's the tariffs or the world seems nuts. That
makes me feel less secure. Uh yeah, yeah, just in general.
That's the question they ought to ask. Does the world
seem nuts too? That would be a great poll. Yeah, God,
if the nuts ratio is or the nuts what we
(08:49):
referred to as the nuts curve, if it reaches a
certain point, I think you have to interpret virtually every
number through the nuts filter. We have discovered something we
need to put a name on. This is so clearly true.
All polls are downstream of the nuts question. Does the
world seem nuts to you right now? And I'll bet
(09:10):
it's I'll bet it's in the eighties. Maybe ninety percent
of people would say yes, all for different reasons, some
because this is momentous. We have actually come up with
an idea that matters.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, we got to get to somebody. We've got to
trademark this.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We need to get some PhDs involved in grafting the
question and the analysis.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Any PhDs, but oh, just for the technical stime, I
think this is absolutely true. It explains all the other
numbers that sometimes you're like, why is that number that?
It's because ninety percent of people think that the world
is nuts right now, which might actually be pretty accurate. Again,
some people thinking because of Trump. Some people think because
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of the forces aligned against Trump. Some people think because
maybe me too. Many people are focused on Trump or
whatever reason the world is nuts right now? How about
the sociological stuff though, all of a sudden, I'm supposed
to declare that that six foot four inch person right
there with an intact penis and testicles is a woman.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
In fact, I'm ordered to say that at fear.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of losing my job in some quadrants of society, that
you don't walk out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of a situation like that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And there are folks who listening right now who have
been in that situation. They have to take the knee,
and I have to declare, yes, that's a woman, or
their careers derailed.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're not coming.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Away from a scenario like that, And then saying, on
the other hand, and my finances are great and I'm
feeling good about everything. No, it's profoundly disturbing, which factors
into the nutscrap Sure where the media landscape or the
couple of wars is going on, or the fact that
we now recognize China as such an enemy, or all
these different things factor into the you feel like the
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Speaker 3 (12:12):
As recently as two thousand and four, two thirds of
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me to sleep a text I got from my son
as I was just about to drift off to sleep.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh, he texted.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Me, hope you're not asleep yet, Dad, And it all
unfolded from there and it was many hours before I
laid back down in bed. More on that later coming up,
we'll talk to Judge Larry Goodman about the sentencing hearing
of the sub human scum in Idaho. But first, it's Mom,
Dammy from mum Dummies. I feel like you're too I
(13:12):
feel like you're too proud of this. I am enjoying
it a little bit. Yes, I found this so interesting.
It's some economic analysis by a fellow by the name
of Ryan Salaam. But one of the most important things
to understand about Momdami, the thirty three year old socialist
who stunned the political establishment blah blah blah Democratic mayoral
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New York blah blah blah, is he has spent his
young adult life much worse off than his parents. He
knows the sting of having grown up in bourgeois comfort
only to find himself scrambling to pay the rent in
a less fashionable neighborhood. That experience is a major reason
why he's emerged as the darling of the millennial Left,
a movement defined by its sense of downward mobility.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, was it a.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Fact that he didn't have a job the reason he
was struggling? Because I haven't heard him by it having
a job.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Really.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So, his dad was a tenured professor is at Columbia
University and a prominent left wing intellectual. And his mom
was a renowned Indian filmmaker Indian or similar, I mean
her Her directorial debut was Salam Bombay Exclamation Points was
released to global acclaim when she was thirty one years old.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So she is a monster talent in that you know
area of cinema.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But if mom's an artist and dad's a Columbia professor,
you're gonna end up with a certain kind of kid. Yeah,
no kidding, But anyway, that whole well, he's less successful
than his parents.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Therefore not too that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
It sounds like an opinion, but this is the interesting
port a part. Drawing on decades of IRS data, researchers
at Opportunity Insights and Economic Policy Institute found that among
Americans born in nineteen forty, ninety two percent earned more
than their parents at age thirty. Wow, just for information everything,
that is ninety two percent. For the I was born
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in nineteen eighty four, only fifty percent did half, and
that decline has political consequences. Half seems pretty good to me.
If you can't expect that forever, can you? Well, if
you've come from you know, three four consecutive generations, where yes,
absolutely you can. Sociologically that's a huge change. But shift
(15:20):
the data a little more data before we get to analysis.
Researchers at this economics lab found a strong correlation between
perceiving yourself to be less well off than your parents,
and zero sum thinking, or the belief that gains for
some people come at the expense of others. Oh right,
which is a profoundness understanding of how economies work.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And a good way to end up miserable the rest
of your life.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And socialist or communist, which more guarantee you're miserable for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Roughly forty percent of the nation's seventy two million millennials,
that's folks born between eighty one to ninety six, live
in high cost, hyper competitive metropolitan areas where milestones such
as owning a home or paying off student loan debt
can loom as distant dreams, so they really perceive themselves
to be worse off than their parents, who talked about
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buying their first house at twenty seven or whatever. Between
millennials who are worse off than their parents and those
who believe they're worse off and those who live in
dysfunctional blue state metros or house hunting can feel like
the Hunger Games. America has a critical mass of people
whose expectations of intergenerational progress have gone sour, and therefore
they think it's a zero sum game, and if Mamdani
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promises he's gonna take from them.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
They're like good, because that's the only way I can
get ahead. I found that really interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, well, yeah, the mindset of if I don't have
much at somebody else's fault is God again talk about
dooming yourself to misery for the rest of your life,
right extension that the only way that I can gain
is if somebody else loses. And then the other part
of if you have very successful parents or your dad
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successful or whatever, do you have to surpass them. If
you don't surpass them, you've failed Somehow that seems unrealistic. Well,
you're arguing with human psychology. I think you might be right,
and people would be wise to adopt that point of view,
But I mean, that's just not the way people are.
A couple more stories that we don't even have time for.
(17:31):
But AOC and Mamdani and the like are raking in
cash as the rest of the party flounders. The radical
left is where the money is right now in terms
of fundraising, which is the only reason politicians get up
in the morning. Yeah, well, I got some easy analysis
of that. I think we'll get to later. And then
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the final thing that I really wanted to get to.
Socialists are on Mumdanni proposed as government owned supermarkets for
New York City, and the city has tried this and
it is flopped. It is a miserable failure. I can't
believe Kansas City tried it. I want to hear more
about that. I got it for you anytime.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay, we got a lot of really good stuff today.
I don't know how that happened, but I'm stick around.
It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Armstrong and Getty. I made eye contact with him and
he was enraged. He was just enraged. So you know,
mission accomplished. You know we can move on now. He
said what we needed to say.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
A faceless coward reached the tranquility of six beautiful young
people and senselessly slaughtered them, four of them. The person
that slithered through that sliding glass door at one one
two two King Road now stands before the world, and
this court unmasked.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No parent should ever have to bury your child.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
In my view, the time has now calmed to in
mister Colberger's fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So that's the judge in the hearing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The sentencing hearing yesterday from the scumbag up in Idaho,
and that was a dad before that, So yeah, the
judge could barely get through that screed without breaking down.
The crime's so horrific and needless and idiotic. To discuss
the hearing in several different ways, we're joined by Larry Goodman,
retired judge for the Superior Court in California.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Larry, it's always great to talk to you. How are you.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Of course, Yeah, thanks for being here. So any general
impressions from the hearing? What's it like to be in
a courtroom with a monster like that? What's it like
for the families to finally speak their piece?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Any thoughts?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, it's always emotional. Sometimes there's not a dry eye
in the house. Judges had certain ways to deal with that.
I used to keep a bunch of pictures on my
bench that I could look at to try to get
out of the emotions. But it's it's tough because you're
in there with pure evil and generally people like this guy.
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They have we used to call shark eyes. There's no spirit,
there's no soul, and you know, they can say things
to him and they may think that they're impacting him,
but people like Picker then or sociopaths, uh, they're incapable
of remorse. And it's so it makes it's good catharsis
(20:27):
for the family members to speak, but it's it's just
tough for everybody that's in that room.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I got some questions about that, but before we do,
I think listeners probably had the same question, I do
what do you mean by you had pictures sitting there
in the courtroom you would look at to try to
get over your emotionally.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I would have family pictures. I would have pictures of Katie,
my wife, places we've been, and I kept them on
my bladder on my bench. And uh, because most of
the cases I did were homicide cases and a fair
amount of death penalty cases. And sometimes you just need
to go to your what I guess to call your
happy space where you're still listening. You're still there, but
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you need some emotional anchor to kind of hang on to.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You're dealing with this stuff that's interesting because it's so
incredibly heavy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It was cathartic for the families, no doubt, And honestly,
anybody who is horrified by the crimes, enjoyed hearing the
sub human scumbags lectured, and the rest of it. But
I know we corresponded last night and you had some
you're kind of dissatisfied with how some of this played out.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, first of all, I wrote notes when it happened.
But it was outrageous the way that this plea bargain
went down. I mean, when you deal a case of
this magnitude and you're the prosecutor, you call each family
member into the office, or you arrange a place to
meet with them, and you sit down with them and
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you explain to them in detail why you're taking a
four victim homicide case it's a death penalty case, and
pulling the death penalty off the table. And if you
need to, you and you go talk to the judge
and explain to the judge why you're doing it, and
you enlist the judge to be part of that meeting
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with the defense attorney's approval, of course, to explain to
this family, each family member, why you're doing this, because
this is like a monumental decision to make, and to
just send them a notice saying that you've made that decision.
Not that they necessarily have detoil power, but they certainly
have a right to express their pleasure or displeasure in
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the decision making process.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Interesting, so they are indeed part of the team that
ought to at least have input on making that decision.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Right. I mean, by the way, we're not going to
seek the death penalty for the guy that killed your daughter.
In the statement, I mean, why tell me why and
let them vent them Let them start the cathartic process
by venting their displeasure with that decision. But they need
to be included from the very get go as to
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why you and you need to tell them why is
there a weakness in the case that we're concerned about.
Was there something that happened that the prime scene that
leads us to think that maybe when juror might lack
onto that. You know, they talk about, well, you waved
all appeals. There's no such thing as an appellate proof decision.
You know, you can always say I am appealing because
the lawyer who gave me the advice to wave my
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appeal was incompetent.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So tell on the road.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
There's always that issue. So you need to have a
you need to have a reason. And then the second
part that was so disturbing is if you buy into
the plea bargain. Part of the plea bargain, if you
want us to take death off the table, then you
stand up in open court and tell us why you
did it, tell us where the murder weapon is, and
then we'll take the death penalty up. Almost every person
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I heard talk about this yesterday talked about, well, we'll
never know why he did it. Well, you might have
been able to find out why he did it if
you made that part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, Michael plays clip number seventy four. One of the
victim's sisters.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you wore that night?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
What were Kaylee's last words? If you're really smart, do
you think you'd be here right now? If you had
to take them in their sleep in the middle of
the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your
mess Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So can you even guess your honor why they wouldn't
have demanded that sort of those sort of answers. Was
it that they had a weak bargaining position, was it incompetence?
I mean, we don't know, but what's your theory.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Well, I don't have the theory, and it's beyond I
don't understand why you have all the leverage. You've got
the death penalty. Now, granted people don't get executed for
years after that's imposed, and there are appeals, but you've
got that kind of leverage, and you've got to try
to use that leverage to find out even though he
(25:20):
pled and people are going to move on this family,
every family member is always going to wonder, why did
he kill my daughter, why did he kill my son?
And why did he do what he did? Where is
the murder weapon? What happened to the knife? And those
are things that people live with forever, and they had
an opportunity to make that part of the deal. He says, Well,
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I'm not going to stand up and tell you why
I did it. He say, fine, then we're going to
seek the death penalty. I mean, it's a bargaining. I
hate to say it, but the art.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Of the deal.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
But that's what you do because now you have all
the leverages. A minute you take the death penalty off
the table, you've lost all your leverage. He has no
incentive whatsoever to ever tell you that the other thing
that's interesting, is they waive the pre sentence report. It's
to have him sit for an interview with a probation
officer and maybe they find out something why he did
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it during that interview. But they both sides waived the
pre sentencing report. So I don't understand that either.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
So I'm surprised that these scumbag murderers care about the
death penalty that much. Do most of them want to
push really hard to stay alive. I mean, he's going
to live the next forty years in a cell alone.
I mean, I just don't get it.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Well, they're really you know, depending on the state, the
death penalty, the actual punishment is so far removed from
the prime sentencing that whatever effect it has on the
defendance is minimal. They used to be in California, where
at least they had death row and they were segregated,
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they had minimal privilege is and they've done away with that.
So now they're scattered all throughout the prison system and
they get pretty much the same privileges as anybody else does.
So wow, and then they change the law too, I mean,
now and again you sent in somebody's death. And then
they change the criteria or do something else and then
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all of a sudden it's not death eligible.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But is your sense because you talked about the guy
having shark eyes and being a sociopath or psychopath or whatever,
and that's what he looks like to me.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But most of those people want to stay alive.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Though, I think so. I mean, there's a self preservation.
They're full of bravado when they're in the courtroom, and
I've had defendants stand up and say you can kill me,
but you can't kill my soul and all that kind
of stuff, And but I deep down inside, I think
that they're get a little bit of a pucker factor
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when they actually think about being put to death.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Sure, Judge Larry Goodman is on the line, retired judge
for the Superior Court and California, speaking of this sub
huban scumbag's future. What do you know about where he's
going to be held and what his life and quotes
is going to be?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Like, Well, I think it's he'll pretty I think he'll
probably spend a lot of time in segregation because I
think there's probably a fair number of inmates that are
already serving life terms that would probably want to earn
some creds in the prison by killing him and or
beating him to a pulp four or five times. So
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he's not going to have a pleasant stay, and he's
not going to be able to intermingle with a whole
lot of other inmates because what he did is kind
of breaks the rules for even being a criminal or
a murderer. So I know it won't be a pleasant stay,
but I think he'll spend most of the time by himself.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So I think that's interesting just sociologically. If I get
into a beef with a guy over a drug territory
or just a personal thing or whatever, and I on
him down and I'm in prison for life, uh uh,
I have a very different status than somebody who sneaks
into a house a night and slaughters young people for
for giggles.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Oh absolutely, I mean it sounds kind of weird, but
there are rules in criminals, in crime and in the
criminal element. So if you commit what anybody would call
it a generic murder over drug territory, or even a
robbery for that matter, you have a whole different status
(29:29):
in prison than if you're do what this guy did,
or if you're a pedophile or a child rapist, or
something like that. There's there's there are consequences in that
if you ever should uh accidentally end up in general population.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So I was wondered about you said there was a
cathartic experience for the family members to be able to,
you know, say their peace to this loser.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Is there any legal reason to do that?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean if they opted not to do that, would
that would that hurt their hurt them in.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Any way legally?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
You mean the family members?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, the family members, they said, if I didn't want
to do that.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
No, they don't have to. I've done cases where the
family members choose not to, or maybe they assign one
family member to speak for the whole family because the
rest of them don't feel comfortable doing it or can't
do it. So, yeah, but there's no downside if they
choose not to do it, except maybe internally and emotional.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It wouldn't affect the sentencing any No.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
No, in a deal like this, the sentence is already predetermined.
I mean, there's no there was no leeway for the
judge to do anything other than what he did because
that was part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, Actually one of the families declined, they said, no,
we're through with us.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
It's this is the closure we need. So yeah, well, Judge, Larry,
go ahead, Larry.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Well, just being in the same room with this pos
is maybe more than people, you know, some family members
wanted to deal with, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, it would be very, very hard to contain my
natural animal urges. There's all kinds of different people to
have different emotions. I'd feel to a certain extent like
I'm giving him what he wants that I'm upset just
I don't even care enough about you to show up,
you loser, Judge, Larry Goodman, Judge, it's always great to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Thanks so much for the insight.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Guys, talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So you got it?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sounds good, sets though, there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Shark, guys,
that's the day he that's what he had. Man, who
knows what's going on in the head of a crazy
person like that. We'll never figure that out. I think
even a normal person that circumstance is going to shut
down emotionally.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, and he's clearly not a normal person, So.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
No, I think honestly he might well be a sociopath, psychopath, whatever,
The one thing he is is mind bogglingly selfish, which
probably makes him an a sociopath to decide to see
if he could get away with something and it be
the slaughter of for human being. I mean, if you
want to see if you can get away with a
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burglary because you're so damn clever, that's an idiotic idea.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But it's alright.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
How about the pecking order thing though, I mean some
of it I get. But the so you robbed me
on the street and I ended up dying, that's justifiable
or okay as part of our world. But the sneak
into the house killing him is not. I mean I
don't find either one of them. Great, yeah, maybe we
(32:31):
can get into that down the road. Wow, that is
something else interesting stuff though, what a great guess.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Stay here, armstrong Ngetti.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Authorities in Australia arrested a man last week for allegedly
stealing fifty three right shoes from a shoe store. The
suspect was very cooperative and reportedly greeting the police saying,
you got me.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What he gave me away? A peg leg? Is that
the jym I get it? He had a peg leg
as why? Wow? Ah, boy.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So I been running on a deficiency of sleep, like
I have been doing most of my adult life, which
is probably going to cut my longevity by a decade
or more. I will drop dead from not getting into
But last night I was going to really really really
really really strive to get to bed early, and I
had accomplished it. I am in bed. What time did
(33:32):
I send my texts to my son? This text eight
twenty nine. I mean that's two hours before I usually
get to bed or more. I send my son. I
knew where Henry was, my thirteen year old. He is
in the house, and my sixteen year old's out and
about like sixteen year old. He's going to be sixteen soon.
So I text him. I said, I'm going to bed.
(33:54):
He texts back in all caps, no, oh, I just
got the tallow Are you very stuck?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
That is an electric dirt bike that he rides around.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I almost crashed him in deep ass mud. I texted back,
I'm sure you can get it out, he said, I've
been trying for thirty minutes and it's getting dark. So
I laid there for a little bit and I thought, okay,
So I tried to figure out where he was he's
out in this field. It was completely dark. It was
very hard to find him. He was wearing only underwear
(34:29):
at this point because he was wearing some of his
really he's wearing some of his good jeans and good shoes.
And he was in so much money he'd taken off
his clothes to keep from ruining them. The motorcycle's completely buried,
I mean, like just the top of the seat and
the handlebar is sticking out in this mud. My gosh, right,
and he'd been trying to pull it out, and it's
(34:50):
pitch dark, and we got a flashlight, and I'm, you know,
waiting for the cops to show up, because we're someplace
we probably shouldn't be anyway. Anyway, Science spend a lot
of time digging that thing out and pulling it out
and getting it loaded up in my truck, pushing it
like a half a mile and then getting a loaded
my truck. And then we went to car wash and
I washed it off. I washed him off. I hosed
(35:11):
him off with the car wash wand like a circus,
like a circuits ell of it in the car washing
at least, but there in his underwear. And uh, then
I went to bed two and a half hours later,
and I was expecting to, but I did say to him,
I said, he said, I can't believe this happened. This
is one of the worst situations I've ever got into.
(35:32):
And I said, you know how many times I've done
something like this in my life?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Roughly one hundred. I said, it's just a thing.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, and you know what twodos for giving the kid
enough uh, you know, enough leash to get into trouble
and figure out how to get out of it and
the rest of it, because you know he will run
into panic inducing situations down the road and think.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You know, this reminds me the whole motorcycle and the
mud thing. Right, If I can deal with that, I
can deal with this.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
As I was getting it out of there, I thought,
how many times, Jack, have you done this sort of
thing in your life? Although I was telling him about
pre cell phone, when I got myself into messages like this,
you're walking a long way because there was no getting
a hold of anybody. Yeah, I'm reminded of myself walking
a couple of miles on hockey skates with blood streaming
down my face after a similar incident.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Anyway, or come Next
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Hour Gender Bending, Madness, dem On dem Violence Edition Armstrong
and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and
Getty and no Hee Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Starbucks this week announced that it's Pumpkin Spice Latte. We'll
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anyone wants in August is Pumpkins spice Catorade.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
No kidding, That's what I thought when I heard that
you're bringing back. Okay, that's no summer flavor, you monsters?
Uh what do we got coming up later this hour?
It's pretty good mom dummy for mom dummies. Plus Judge
Larry are a good friend of the Armstrong and Getty show,
talking about the Idaho Monsters sentencing, hearing the victim impact
(00:59):
statements and the answered questions why are they unanswered?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Stay with us? Okay, hold me on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
I got to screen capture something that the top app
on the app store now is something new that I'd
never heard of.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So we'll talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Even if the show is being executed, it's still being formed.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
This is fascinating that to you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Here are two sets of statistics that are out that
are interesting We won't dwell on this one.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We've talked about it a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
The US fertility rate slumped to a new low last year.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
The numbers are just out unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
The United States was once among only a few developed
countries where the rate ensured that we were having enough
kids to like, you know, continue as the society, which
is about two point one kids per woman. Where now
we dipped below that. We're now way below at new low.
One point six kids per woman is our new uh.
(01:57):
Where we are now, We're now what we used to
look at with South Korea or various countries and.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Think, oh my god, they are doomed. That's not us.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's just going to say, we're now South Korea with
better baseball teams.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
In the sixties.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
By the way, when Joe and I were born, it
was about three point five.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Now one point six.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Wow, that is a major change in the structure of society,
like major You can't even overstate how big deal that is.
Yeah for them, for the way people you know, put
together their lives, spend their money.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The things that you care.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
About, right, politics are waves, demographics are the tide as
they say. It strikes me that my little joke about
baseball was really really appropriate because a lot of our
great baseball players are immigrants. And that is how the
United States population is not only stable but growing.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's entirely immigration.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And that's because that's the only way if you assume
we must have economic growth, which appears to be the
assumption of the powerful.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, you got to do it through immigration.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
In countries like Japan that are extremely uncomfortable with immigration,
are really.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What's the expert, Well, they're doing poorly.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
One more stat on this before I move on to
the other stuff. Birth rates are declining for women in
all age groups. So it's just across the board, people
ain't having kids. As you say all the time, I
don't think you can say this enough because it's so interesting.
If this were happening to any other beast, we'd be
highly concerned and universal wills.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Science would be fixated on it. Yeah, if it were the.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Vole or some sort of bird or whatever they just
stopped reproducing, we'd think.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Holy crap, that's got to be bad.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Why any animal would just all of a sudden stop reproducing.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
It's got to be horrible. We need to figure this out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But for humans, we're just like, Eh, there's a lot
on TV and TikTok and what you know anyway, and
having kids just kind of bange the ass.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
So I understand this mating season.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And we observed that the males were playing video games
and stoned and watching pornography of antelopes breeding, while the
women were screaming angrily in the streets about antelope rites
or how about the male buffalo can no longer get
an erection.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It's the problem for a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
While in the female flows out of her f and
mind right, which we hear from our young male correspondence
semi frequently. Dude, you have no idea how crazy it
is out here. You talk to a girl for twenty
minutes and it's like, holy cow, it's Jay Guavera's daughter. Oh,
somebody who's explaining to me the other day about dating
(04:42):
on one of your online websites. And that's where sixty
percent of people meet now in the modern world. I
think they were discussing bumble, the percentage of women who
have pronouns in their little the very top line bio
where you have like the most basic stuff have their
pronouns in there, and how it's just you know, For
some people that's an automatic no, so you just go
(05:04):
through no, no, no, no, It doesn't matter what else
is on there if you got pronouns in there, so
there you go. Yeah, I got through third grade, so
I know which pronouns to use for you, so I
don't need your help.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Obviously, it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
It's an indicator of a lot more that probably comes
with the pronoun package. Oh I know that. You know,
it's probably probably comes with being ry ry had the
list of things that come with that package would be
a lot. It's a pretty damn good indicator, as you say,
I mean, it's like really helpful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Maybe no, you're one of those I don't know. I
was thinking about that.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Maybe not though it could It could be a I
just thought you were supposed to do this, so I did.
And it doesn't really include a deep belief in that
sort of thing, but it might, and it say.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Is it worth taking the chance?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Well, I would say the lads applying those waters these
days have decided to use that as an indicator, so
they would know better than me.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Uh, So I wanted to get to this. This is
so you can feel superior or inferior. To others, which
is really, you know what a great hobby that is. Yes,
Fox Newpoll Newspole highly respected polling organization. Percentage of people
rating their personal financial situation is excellent or good. So
think for yourself. Do you feel like your financial situation
is excellent or good? I feel like it's kind of
(06:22):
interesting that the highest number they ever had, and I
don't know how many years they've been asking this question,
probably not that long, but the highest number was June
of two thousand and four, right before the crash, sixty
two percent of Americans described their personal financial situation is
(06:44):
excellent or good, almost two thirds.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That is something, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, I'm casting my memory back to those days. Yeah,
that's that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
The low had been.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
The low came almost exactly twenty years later, in May
of twenty twenty three, thirty four percent. So that have
been coming out of COVID all the inflation everything else.
Oh yes, right, yeah, thirty four percent, so half as
many people saying excellent are good.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Then in May of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
You may recall economist Joe Getty saying at the time,
if inflation is high, nothing else matters. Yeah, we've crawled
out of that to a certain extent, not a lot.
The most recent numbers are from March of twenty twenty five.
It must take a while to compile these. At thirty
nine percent, thirty nine percent of people say good or excellent.
(07:42):
That's not very high, not even good. You don't even
consider your personal financial situation good. That's not that's not good.
In the markets, and many Americans are invested, whether through
four to one k's or whatever, in the markets. The
markets are insanely high right now, records every day.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, what did you have a You know, this is
all an.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Emotion, is not all, but a lot of It's an
emotional reaction as opposed to a specific nuts and boat.
Don't you think specific documented if you sat down with
your numbers, you would say I'm behind or a head
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Isn't an emotional feeling. So why do you think it's
so low currently?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uncertainty? I just think there's so much uncertainty in the air,
whether it's the tariffs or the world seems nuts. That
makes me feel less secure. Uh yeah, yeah, just in general.
That's the question they ought to ask. Does the world
seem nuts too? That would be a great poll. Yeah, God,
if the nuts ratio is or the nuts what we
(08:49):
referred to as the nuts curve, if it reaches a
certain point, I think you have to interpret virtually every
number through the nuts filter. We have discovered something we
need to put a name on. This is so clearly true.
All polls are downstream of the nuts question. Does the
world seem nuts to you right now? And I'll bet
(09:10):
it's I'll bet it's in the eighties. Maybe ninety percent
of people would say yes, all for different reasons, some
because this is momentous. We have actually come up with
an idea that matters.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, we got to get to somebody. We've got to
trademark this.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We need to get some PhDs involved in grafting the
question and the analysis.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't want.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Any PhDs, but oh, just for the technical stime, I
think this is absolutely true. It explains all the other
numbers that sometimes you're like, why is that number that?
It's because ninety percent of people think that the world
is nuts right now, which might actually be pretty accurate. Again,
some people thinking because of Trump. Some people think because
(09:49):
of the forces aligned against Trump. Some people think because
maybe me too. Many people are focused on Trump or
whatever reason the world is nuts right now? How about
the sociological stuff though, all of a sudden, I'm supposed
to declare that that six foot four inch person right
there with an intact penis and testicles is a woman.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
In fact, I'm ordered to say that at fear.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Of losing my job in some quadrants of society, that
you don't walk out.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Of a situation like that.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
And there are folks who listening right now who have
been in that situation. They have to take the knee,
and I have to declare, yes, that's a woman, or
their careers derailed.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
You're not coming.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Away from a scenario like that, And then saying, on
the other hand, and my finances are great and I'm
feeling good about everything. No, it's profoundly disturbing, which factors
into the nutscrap Sure where the media landscape or the
couple of wars is going on, or the fact that
we now recognize China as such an enemy, or all
these different things factor into the you feel like the
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Is that what you're contract Jack. Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
As recently as two thousand and four, two thirds of
Americans said their personal financial situations excellent are good? Now
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me to sleep a text I got from my son
as I was just about to drift off to sleep.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Oh, he texted.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Me, hope you're not asleep yet, Dad, And it all
unfolded from there and it was many hours before I
laid back down in bed. More on that later coming up,
we'll talk to Judge Larry Goodman about the sentencing hearing
of the sub human scum in Idaho. But first, it's Mom,
Dammy from mum Dummies. I feel like you're too I
(13:12):
feel like you're too proud of this. I am enjoying
it a little bit. Yes, I found this so interesting.
It's some economic analysis by a fellow by the name
of Ryan Salaam. But one of the most important things
to understand about Momdami, the thirty three year old socialist
who stunned the political establishment blah blah blah Democratic mayoral
(13:34):
New York blah blah blah, is he has spent his
young adult life much worse off than his parents. He
knows the sting of having grown up in bourgeois comfort
only to find himself scrambling to pay the rent in
a less fashionable neighborhood. That experience is a major reason
why he's emerged as the darling of the millennial Left,
a movement defined by its sense of downward mobility.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Well, was it a.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Fact that he didn't have a job the reason he
was struggling? Because I haven't heard him by it having
a job.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Really.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So, his dad was a tenured professor is at Columbia
University and a prominent left wing intellectual. And his mom
was a renowned Indian filmmaker Indian or similar, I mean
her Her directorial debut was Salam Bombay Exclamation Points was
released to global acclaim when she was thirty one years old.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
So she is a monster talent in that you know
area of cinema.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
But if mom's an artist and dad's a Columbia professor,
you're gonna end up with a certain kind of kid. Yeah,
no kidding, But anyway, that whole well, he's less successful
than his parents.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Therefore not too that.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
It sounds like an opinion, but this is the interesting
port a part. Drawing on decades of IRS data, researchers
at Opportunity Insights and Economic Policy Institute found that among
Americans born in nineteen forty, ninety two percent earned more
than their parents at age thirty. Wow, just for information everything,
that is ninety two percent. For the I was born
(15:00):
in nineteen eighty four, only fifty percent did half, and
that decline has political consequences. Half seems pretty good to me.
If you can't expect that forever, can you? Well, if
you've come from you know, three four consecutive generations, where yes,
absolutely you can. Sociologically that's a huge change. But shift
(15:20):
the data a little more data before we get to analysis.
Researchers at this economics lab found a strong correlation between
perceiving yourself to be less well off than your parents,
and zero sum thinking, or the belief that gains for
some people come at the expense of others. Oh right,
which is a profoundness understanding of how economies work.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And a good way to end up miserable the rest
of your life.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And socialist or communist, which more guarantee you're miserable for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Roughly forty percent of the nation's seventy two million millennials,
that's folks born between eighty one to ninety six, live
in high cost, hyper competitive metropolitan areas where milestones such
as owning a home or paying off student loan debt
can loom as distant dreams, so they really perceive themselves
to be worse off than their parents, who talked about
(16:16):
buying their first house at twenty seven or whatever. Between
millennials who are worse off than their parents and those
who believe they're worse off and those who live in
dysfunctional blue state metros or house hunting can feel like
the Hunger Games. America has a critical mass of people
whose expectations of intergenerational progress have gone sour, and therefore
they think it's a zero sum game, and if Mamdani
(16:38):
promises he's gonna take from them.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
They're like good, because that's the only way I can
get ahead. I found that really interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, well, yeah, the mindset of if I don't have
much at somebody else's fault is God again talk about
dooming yourself to misery for the rest of your life,
right extension that the only way that I can gain
is if somebody else loses. And then the other part
of if you have very successful parents or your dad
(17:10):
successful or whatever, do you have to surpass them. If
you don't surpass them, you've failed Somehow that seems unrealistic. Well,
you're arguing with human psychology. I think you might be right,
and people would be wise to adopt that point of view,
But I mean, that's just not the way people are.
A couple more stories that we don't even have time for.
(17:31):
But AOC and Mamdani and the like are raking in
cash as the rest of the party flounders. The radical
left is where the money is right now in terms
of fundraising, which is the only reason politicians get up
in the morning. Yeah, well, I got some easy analysis
of that. I think we'll get to later. And then
(17:53):
the final thing that I really wanted to get to.
Socialists are on Mumdanni proposed as government owned supermarkets for
New York City, and the city has tried this and
it is flopped. It is a miserable failure. I can't
believe Kansas City tried it. I want to hear more
about that. I got it for you anytime.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay, we got a lot of really good stuff today.
I don't know how that happened, but I'm stick around.
It's gonna be fantastic.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Armstrong and Getty. I made eye contact with him and
he was enraged. He was just enraged. So you know,
mission accomplished. You know we can move on now. He
said what we needed to say.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
A faceless coward reached the tranquility of six beautiful young
people and senselessly slaughtered them, four of them. The person
that slithered through that sliding glass door at one one
two two King Road now stands before the world, and
this court unmasked.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
No parent should ever have to bury your child.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
In my view, the time has now calmed to in
mister Colberger's fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So that's the judge in the hearing.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
The sentencing hearing yesterday from the scumbag up in Idaho,
and that was a dad before that, So yeah, the
judge could barely get through that screed without breaking down.
The crime's so horrific and needless and idiotic. To discuss
the hearing in several different ways, we're joined by Larry Goodman,
retired judge for the Superior Court in California.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Larry, it's always great to talk to you. How are you.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Of course, Yeah, thanks for being here. So any general
impressions from the hearing? What's it like to be in
a courtroom with a monster like that? What's it like
for the families to finally speak their piece?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Any thoughts?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Well, it's always emotional. Sometimes there's not a dry eye
in the house. Judges had certain ways to deal with that.
I used to keep a bunch of pictures on my
bench that I could look at to try to get
out of the emotions. But it's it's tough because you're
in there with pure evil and generally people like this guy.
(20:06):
They have we used to call shark eyes. There's no spirit,
there's no soul, and you know, they can say things
to him and they may think that they're impacting him,
but people like Picker then or sociopaths, uh, they're incapable
of remorse. And it's so it makes it's good catharsis
(20:27):
for the family members to speak, but it's it's just
tough for everybody that's in that room.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah, I got some questions about that, but before we do,
I think listeners probably had the same question, I do
what do you mean by you had pictures sitting there
in the courtroom you would look at to try to
get over your emotionally.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I would have family pictures. I would have pictures of Katie,
my wife, places we've been, and I kept them on
my bladder on my bench. And uh, because most of
the cases I did were homicide cases and a fair
amount of death penalty cases. And sometimes you just need
to go to your what I guess to call your
happy space where you're still listening. You're still there, but
(21:09):
you need some emotional anchor to kind of hang on to.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
You're dealing with this stuff that's interesting because it's so
incredibly heavy.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It was cathartic for the families, no doubt, And honestly,
anybody who is horrified by the crimes, enjoyed hearing the
sub human scumbags lectured, and the rest of it. But
I know we corresponded last night and you had some
you're kind of dissatisfied with how some of this played out.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Well, first of all, I wrote notes when it happened.
But it was outrageous the way that this plea bargain
went down. I mean, when you deal a case of
this magnitude and you're the prosecutor, you call each family
member into the office, or you arrange a place to
meet with them, and you sit down with them and
(22:03):
you explain to them in detail why you're taking a
four victim homicide case it's a death penalty case, and
pulling the death penalty off the table. And if you
need to, you and you go talk to the judge
and explain to the judge why you're doing it, and
you enlist the judge to be part of that meeting
(22:23):
with the defense attorney's approval, of course, to explain to
this family, each family member, why you're doing this, because
this is like a monumental decision to make, and to
just send them a notice saying that you've made that decision.
Not that they necessarily have detoil power, but they certainly
have a right to express their pleasure or displeasure in
(22:45):
the decision making process.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Interesting, so they are indeed part of the team that
ought to at least have input on making that decision.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Right. I mean, by the way, we're not going to
seek the death penalty for the guy that killed your daughter.
In the statement, I mean, why tell me why and
let them vent them Let them start the cathartic process
by venting their displeasure with that decision. But they need
to be included from the very get go as to
(23:17):
why you and you need to tell them why is
there a weakness in the case that we're concerned about.
Was there something that happened that the prime scene that
leads us to think that maybe when juror might lack
onto that. You know, they talk about, well, you waved
all appeals. There's no such thing as an appellate proof decision.
You know, you can always say I am appealing because
the lawyer who gave me the advice to wave my
(23:39):
appeal was incompetent.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So tell on the road.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
There's always that issue. So you need to have a
you need to have a reason. And then the second
part that was so disturbing is if you buy into
the plea bargain. Part of the plea bargain, if you
want us to take death off the table, then you
stand up in open court and tell us why you
did it, tell us where the murder weapon is, and
then we'll take the death penalty up. Almost every person
(24:05):
I heard talk about this yesterday talked about, well, we'll
never know why he did it. Well, you might have
been able to find out why he did it if
you made that part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah, Michael plays clip number seventy four. One of the
victim's sisters.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Where is the murder weapon? The clothes you wore that night?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
What were Kaylee's last words? If you're really smart, do
you think you'd be here right now? If you had
to take them in their sleep in the middle of
the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your
mess Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So can you even guess your honor why they wouldn't
have demanded that sort of those sort of answers. Was
it that they had a weak bargaining position, was it incompetence?
I mean, we don't know, but what's your theory.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Well, I don't have the theory, and it's beyond I
don't understand why you have all the leverage. You've got
the death penalty. Now, granted people don't get executed for
years after that's imposed, and there are appeals, but you've
got that kind of leverage, and you've got to try
to use that leverage to find out even though he
(25:20):
pled and people are going to move on this family,
every family member is always going to wonder, why did
he kill my daughter, why did he kill my son?
And why did he do what he did? Where is
the murder weapon? What happened to the knife? And those
are things that people live with forever, and they had
an opportunity to make that part of the deal. He says, Well,
(25:41):
I'm not going to stand up and tell you why
I did it. He say, fine, then we're going to
seek the death penalty. I mean, it's a bargaining. I
hate to say it, but the art.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Of the deal.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
But that's what you do because now you have all
the leverages. A minute you take the death penalty off
the table, you've lost all your leverage. He has no
incentive whatsoever to ever tell you that the other thing
that's interesting, is they waive the pre sentence report. It's
to have him sit for an interview with a probation
officer and maybe they find out something why he did
(26:13):
it during that interview. But they both sides waived the
pre sentencing report. So I don't understand that either.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
So I'm surprised that these scumbag murderers care about the
death penalty that much. Do most of them want to
push really hard to stay alive. I mean, he's going
to live the next forty years in a cell alone.
I mean, I just don't get it.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Well, they're really you know, depending on the state, the
death penalty, the actual punishment is so far removed from
the prime sentencing that whatever effect it has on the
defendance is minimal. They used to be in California, where
at least they had death row and they were segregated,
(26:58):
they had minimal privilege is and they've done away with that.
So now they're scattered all throughout the prison system and
they get pretty much the same privileges as anybody else does.
So wow, and then they change the law too, I mean,
now and again you sent in somebody's death. And then
they change the criteria or do something else and then
(27:19):
all of a sudden it's not death eligible.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
But is your sense because you talked about the guy
having shark eyes and being a sociopath or psychopath or whatever,
and that's what he looks like to me.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But most of those people want to stay alive.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Though, I think so. I mean, there's a self preservation.
They're full of bravado when they're in the courtroom, and
I've had defendants stand up and say you can kill me,
but you can't kill my soul and all that kind
of stuff, And but I deep down inside, I think
that they're get a little bit of a pucker factor
(27:52):
when they actually think about being put to death.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Sure, Judge Larry Goodman is on the line, retired judge
for the Superior Court and California, speaking of this sub
huban scumbag's future. What do you know about where he's
going to be held and what his life and quotes
is going to be?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Like, Well, I think it's he'll pretty I think he'll
probably spend a lot of time in segregation because I
think there's probably a fair number of inmates that are
already serving life terms that would probably want to earn
some creds in the prison by killing him and or
beating him to a pulp four or five times. So
(28:34):
he's not going to have a pleasant stay, and he's
not going to be able to intermingle with a whole
lot of other inmates because what he did is kind
of breaks the rules for even being a criminal or
a murderer. So I know it won't be a pleasant stay,
but I think he'll spend most of the time by himself.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
So I think that's interesting just sociologically. If I get
into a beef with a guy over a drug territory
or just a personal thing or whatever, and I on
him down and I'm in prison for life, uh uh,
I have a very different status than somebody who sneaks
into a house a night and slaughters young people for
for giggles.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Oh absolutely, I mean it sounds kind of weird, but
there are rules in criminals, in crime and in the
criminal element. So if you commit what anybody would call
it a generic murder over drug territory, or even a
robbery for that matter, you have a whole different status
(29:29):
in prison than if you're do what this guy did,
or if you're a pedophile or a child rapist, or
something like that. There's there's there are consequences in that
if you ever should uh accidentally end up in general population.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
So I was wondered about you said there was a
cathartic experience for the family members to be able to,
you know, say their peace to this loser.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Is there any legal reason to do that?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean if they opted not to do that, would
that would that hurt their hurt them in.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Any way legally?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
You mean the family members?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, the family members, they said, if I didn't want
to do that.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
No, they don't have to. I've done cases where the
family members choose not to, or maybe they assign one
family member to speak for the whole family because the
rest of them don't feel comfortable doing it or can't
do it. So, yeah, but there's no downside if they
choose not to do it, except maybe internally and emotional.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
It wouldn't affect the sentencing any No.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
No, in a deal like this, the sentence is already predetermined.
I mean, there's no there was no leeway for the
judge to do anything other than what he did because
that was part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, Actually one of the families declined, they said, no,
we're through with us.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
It's this is the closure we need. So yeah, well, Judge, Larry,
go ahead, Larry.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Well, just being in the same room with this pos
is maybe more than people, you know, some family members
wanted to deal with, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, it would be very, very hard to contain my
natural animal urges. There's all kinds of different people to
have different emotions. I'd feel to a certain extent like
I'm giving him what he wants that I'm upset just
I don't even care enough about you to show up,
you loser, Judge, Larry Goodman, Judge, it's always great to
talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Thanks so much for the insight.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
I appreciate the time. Thanks so much. Guys, talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
So you got it?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sounds good, sets though, there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Shark, guys,
that's the day he that's what he had. Man, who
knows what's going on in the head of a crazy
person like that. We'll never figure that out. I think
even a normal person that circumstance is going to shut
down emotionally.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, and he's clearly not a normal person, So.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
No, I think honestly he might well be a sociopath, psychopath, whatever,
The one thing he is is mind bogglingly selfish, which
probably makes him an a sociopath to decide to see
if he could get away with something and it be
the slaughter of for human being. I mean, if you
want to see if you can get away with a
(32:05):
burglary because you're so damn clever, that's an idiotic idea.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But it's alright.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
How about the pecking order thing though, I mean some
of it I get. But the so you robbed me
on the street and I ended up dying, that's justifiable
or okay as part of our world. But the sneak
into the house killing him is not. I mean I
don't find either one of them. Great, yeah, maybe we
(32:31):
can get into that down the road. Wow, that is
something else interesting stuff though, what a great guess.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Stay here, armstrong Ngetti.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Authorities in Australia arrested a man last week for allegedly
stealing fifty three right shoes from a shoe store. The
suspect was very cooperative and reportedly greeting the police saying,
you got me.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
What he gave me away? A peg leg? Is that
the jym I get it? He had a peg leg
as why? Wow? Ah, boy.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
So I been running on a deficiency of sleep, like
I have been doing most of my adult life, which
is probably going to cut my longevity by a decade
or more. I will drop dead from not getting into
But last night I was going to really really really
really really strive to get to bed early, and I
had accomplished it. I am in bed. What time did
(33:32):
I send my texts to my son? This text eight
twenty nine. I mean that's two hours before I usually
get to bed or more. I send my son. I
knew where Henry was, my thirteen year old. He is
in the house, and my sixteen year old's out and
about like sixteen year old. He's going to be sixteen soon.
So I text him. I said, I'm going to bed.
(33:54):
He texts back in all caps, no, oh, I just
got the tallow Are you very stuck?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
That is an electric dirt bike that he rides around.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I almost crashed him in deep ass mud. I texted back,
I'm sure you can get it out, he said, I've
been trying for thirty minutes and it's getting dark. So
I laid there for a little bit and I thought, okay,
So I tried to figure out where he was he's
out in this field. It was completely dark. It was
very hard to find him. He was wearing only underwear
(34:29):
at this point because he was wearing some of his
really he's wearing some of his good jeans and good shoes.
And he was in so much money he'd taken off
his clothes to keep from ruining them. The motorcycle's completely buried,
I mean, like just the top of the seat and
the handlebar is sticking out in this mud. My gosh, right,
and he'd been trying to pull it out, and it's
(34:50):
pitch dark, and we got a flashlight, and I'm, you know,
waiting for the cops to show up, because we're someplace
we probably shouldn't be anyway. Anyway, Science spend a lot
of time digging that thing out and pulling it out
and getting it loaded up in my truck, pushing it
like a half a mile and then getting a loaded
my truck. And then we went to car wash and
I washed it off. I washed him off. I hosed
(35:11):
him off with the car wash wand like a circus,
like a circuits ell of it in the car washing
at least, but there in his underwear. And uh, then
I went to bed two and a half hours later,
and I was expecting to, but I did say to him,
I said, he said, I can't believe this happened. This
is one of the worst situations I've ever got into.
(35:32):
And I said, you know how many times I've done
something like this in my life?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Roughly one hundred. I said, it's just a thing.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, and you know what twodos for giving the kid
enough uh, you know, enough leash to get into trouble
and figure out how to get out of it and
the rest of it, because you know he will run
into panic inducing situations down the road and think.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
You know, this reminds me the whole motorcycle and the
mud thing. Right, If I can deal with that, I
can deal with this.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
As I was getting it out of there, I thought,
how many times, Jack, have you done this sort of
thing in your life? Although I was telling him about
pre cell phone, when I got myself into messages like this,
you're walking a long way because there was no getting
a hold of anybody. Yeah, I'm reminded of myself walking
a couple of miles on hockey skates with blood streaming
down my face after a similar incident.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
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