September 12, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- They got the shooter & the reaction online
- Details about the shooter and being radicalized
- How life milestones have changed since the 70's
- Charlie Kirk's killer had been radicalized
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm
Strong and Jack Katie and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It was actually scheduled to do some some nine to
eleven events that the Vice President's team canceled that because
obviously they felt that this took priority just in terms
of being able to go there and to meet with
Charlie Kirk's family in Utah, and not only that, but
to take the family and his remains and the casket
back to Arizona where he lived with his family. It's
just a sign of reverence for Charlie Kirk and also
(00:45):
just signifies the impact of the relationship that jd Vance
and Charlie Kirk had.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, maybe you've seen the video jd Vance actually walking
with the casket as it was transferred to a plane.
He's close friends with the dude, and it'd be something
you have a friend gunned down like that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Horrifying. Yeah, on virtually every level, So every level.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The big news that is out and the FBI is
having a press conference right now and we'll get more information,
is that the shooter turned himself in told apparently confessed
to his dad. Guilt got to him or something told
his dad. His dad convinced him to turn himself in,
and he's in custody and we're going to learn more
about it here in the next hour or so the story.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that shades and
changes the discussion. I'm not sure how much it should, honestly,
but it will certainly at least some. A couple of
my favorite thinkers weighing in on the whole thing, just
want to quote them briefly, A couple of the great
women of journalism and commentary. Peggy Noonan says, pray now
(01:51):
for America. We are in big trouble. We all know this.
We don't even know what to do with what we know.
But the assassination of Charlie Kirk feel different as an event,
like a hinge point, like something that is going to
reverbrate in new dark ways.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It does.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It isn't just another dreadful thing. It carries the ominous
sense that we're at the beginning of something bad.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, you know, I hope that's not true, obviously, but
it does feel like a turning point. It could be
a turning point of Okay, we've gone too far and
we ratchet down, but I don't like our chances.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
She quotes one commentator saying yesterday afternoon that normally after
such events the temperature goes down a little, but not
in this case. And he's right there, the heartbroken, the indifferent,
than the era reconcilable blah blah blah acts Formally, Twitter
was from the moment of the shooting overrun with anguish
and rage. It's on now and Blue Sky, where supposedly
(02:50):
gentler folk fled, was gleefully violent, too bad. Live by
the gun, die by the gun. But what a disaster
all this is for the young, she writes, How was
a presence in the life The example he got, he said,
was a template for how to discuss politics with good
cheer and confidence, with sincerity and conversation, never violence.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I forget what the percentages are, but a very low
percentage of people are on Twitter or Blue Sky, very low.
So how much should you look to that for what
the nation thinks since it's a tiny percentage of not
the most normal people that are on those platforms and post.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I would agree, I think in virtually, you know,
every day, in every way, it's much more healthy to
look at the people you are with and around, work,
your community. You're a place of worship if you have one.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
The Internet is not your world. Your world is your world.
It's a good point. Kim Strassel, Oh, I'm sorry, No,
this is we'll get to earn a second. Somebody else's
writing about Oh, the editorial board of the journal talking
about the various rage and glee and just sickness. And
(04:06):
then they say, for a better example, look to America's
college campuses where Charlie spent so much of his time
building his movement with Turning Point USA. And they go
through a bunch of University Alabama, about one hundred students
gathered to cry, pray, remember, and light Candle's political violence
has no place in America, they said. Country was found
on the idea of freedom of speech, and we should
all honor that. Similar crowd at Duke Big Crowd University
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of Oklahoma came together Missouri, where he was going to
appear later this month at MISSOO. What Charlie did was
give people the ability to speak even if they disagreed
with him, said one student. We need to remember in
the aftermath of this that if there was ever a
goal or a reason that someone will want to kill him,
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it is to stop us from talking to each other
the citadel. The list goes on and on. So I
found that positive. And then finally, this is Kim Strassel,
who makes the point, as we made the other day,
that the utter, undeluded horror of this is that Charlie
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Kirk's message was never violence, Let's talk, and for a
man advocating that to be gunned down at thirty one
years old is a measure of the perversity of our
political discussion and how even as earnest and peaceful a
(05:35):
message is that gets portrayed as hate speech that hurts
people and needs to be ended well by some.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like I said multiple times yesterday, though if it was
somebody that was a real flamethrower, you still don't shoot him, right,
and you can't make an argument well, they brought it
on them. So with all the words that they said, what.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, I know what you're you're driving at, it seems
almost unnecessary or even counterproductive to strongly make the case.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And he, of all.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
People, didn't deserve political violence, because nobody does. I get
your point, and it's a good one. At the same time,
what I'm talking about is the diseased, hyperbolic political messaging
of our time that could turn someone as peaceful and
earnest as Charlie Kirk into a Satan who must be slayed.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
M right, Yeah, that is troubling. So if you lean right,
you're of the belief that one of the reasons Democrats
can't win national elections right now is.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They believe Twitter is the world, right.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And that that time guy and that tiny loud group
of people on social media they have to react to.
But when big stories happen, we turn to the reactions
on Twitter's and Twitter and Blue Sky and act like
that's the world. I mean, we know it's not. I don't.
I don't know if we can survive social media. We're
(07:14):
not smart enough to like fully embrace the fact that
that's a tiny percent of not normal people right commenting
on there.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, when for ninety nine point nine to nine nine
percentage of the time human beings have had a frontal
lobe and the ability to reason, the entirety of the
inputs we took in were personally experienced in your own life.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Your eyes, your ears, your nose, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And then the printing press came on a blip of
go and people were exposed to ideas and events that
happened far from us. And then cable news twenty four
hours of the most horrible things that can happen, and
now social media on practically unrestricted exposure to the sickest,
angriest minds on Earth reacting to the most terrible events
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that have taken place on Earth. I don't think it's
a beast. We're designed to endure that. In fact, I
know we're not. I know with certainty we're not. Whether
we can adapt and deal with it somehow is the question?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Mark man. Nutpicking is so dangerous. You pick out the
most vile person on the other side and let that
seep into your brain that they represent the other side.
They don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, here's the equation we need, though, or a formula
that we all memorize. If three people on Blue Sky
say horrific things about Charlie Kirk, that's of no significance.
Everybody knows they're sick. F's in the world and there
always will be. But what if thirty thousands say it?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What is that? Does that?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Then you divide it by ten over the power of
something and you then deduce that, Okay, five percent of
the third of people who identify as progressive are sick
angry f's, as I put it charmingly, I'll go because
it's not of no significance. It's just hard to know
(09:20):
how much significance to attribute to it. And I wish
I could help you all with that, but I'm still
trying to figure out myself.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So the governor just announced what was written on the
bullet casing. I'll have that four you ride up for this. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's good to be right. The Governor of Utah finally
confirming what was written on the bullet casings of the
scumbag shooter.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So, the area north of Campus Drive Road where the
suspect crossed over you saw some of that in the
video that we released last night, consists of a grassy
area with trees. On the edge of the UVU campus
investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark
colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mouser
Model ninety eight thirty yacht six thirty six caliber bolt
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action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top
of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on
casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing
read notices bulges, capital, wo, what's this question?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch,
exclamation point, up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol, and
three down arrow symbols.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
A second unfired casing.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Read oh, bella chow bella chow bella chow chow chow.
And a third unfired casing red.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
If you read this you are gay. Lmao. The bella
Chow is a song favored by reason existence movements and
revolutionary anti capitalist partisans. I am told by Noah Roffman,
who happens to be writing a book right now about
liberal violence or left wing violence. Wow, sure he'll be
(12:14):
updating that book, so writing on the casings, which has
happened now a couple of times. Who came up with
that idea? Do you you assume people are going to
find the casings? And then does it seem extra clever?
I don't what are you doing there?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You want your purpose known even if you get away
with it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I don't know where there's a.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Report that it was a family friend, the governor said,
I guess in the press conference it was a family
friend who turned in the shooter or urged him to
turn himself in.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We'll we'll find out. I don't like the direction all
this is going. All right, We got more on the
way you could comment on anything text line four KFTC.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody
at ten pm local time, in less than thirty six
hours thirty three to be precise, thanks to the full
weight of the federal government and leading out with the
partners here in the state of Utah, Governor Cox, the
suspect was apprehended in historic time period.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, he turned himself in, so I don't okay.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, The governor himself took over at the press conference
and gave us all sorts of the information that we
have been looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We'll start here. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson, who stated that
Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family
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member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to
dinner prior to September tenth, and in the conversation with
another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.
They talked about why they didn't like him and the
viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk
was full of hate and spreading hate.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Go on mister Governor.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made
a joke on discord, Investigators asked if he would show
them the messages on discord. He opened it and showed
several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos
of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate.
These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages
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between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon
and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages fluted
messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to
retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle
in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area
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where a rifle was left, and a message referring to
having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages
also referred to engraving bullets and a mention of a
scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact
Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The next clip, I think is what we've heard about
the odd messages on the bullets, which need to be
decoded for a lot of us. But so it appears
to be precisely what it seemed to be. A person
who hated Charlie Kirk killed him over his ideas.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And the whole high powered rifle thing. Well that's true enough,
but it's like one of the most common guns in America.
Every kid I knew when I was like a junior
high high school kid living in deer hunting country had
a thirty odd to six. I mean, it's like super
super common and not difficult to use. So I don't know,
(16:22):
I feel like they're tarting it up as making it
seem very exotic, But it's not. It's the opposite of exotic.
It's like the standard hunting rifle. Yeah, yeah, and it's
and if you're a hunter with a scope, it's not
that difficult to make that kind of shot from that
distance right right. To do it when you know you're
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about to kill somebody and and and be on the run,
that's a different question. But if you're kind of nuts,
maybe that keeps you calm. I don't know, so I.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Don't know what to say other than everything we've said
over the last forty eight hours turns out to be
more or less the case. Yeah, I'll be interested to
hear the decoding of some of the messages on the
shell casings.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm at this point thinking there's
nothing to nothing to change the conversation whatsoever. I'm glad
they caught the person that did it, so they're not
on the run to hurt anybody else. But other than that,
the conversation is exactly the same as yesterday, and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The stupidity and futility of it is one of the
hardest things to take, along with obviously the loss of
a young father's life, but.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Just the stupidity of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, all right, Well, as the press conference goes on,
we'll certainly mine it for anything that you need to know,
and we'll bring it to you and share some commentary
as well. A bunch of other stories we need to
get to today, and we will get to them in
due course as we can.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, there's plenty of videos out there, various nut
jobs cheering this when they got the news and everything
like that. How you could possibly convince yourself that this
is going to make America a safer, better place in
any way, when you have political violence, you are You're crazy, armstrong,
and getty. According to a.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
New survey, forty percent of adults consult their partner before
making a large purchase, while others clearly don't. The lightsaber,
used by Darth Vader in the first Star Wars trilogy,
recently sold at auction for nearly four million dollars. So
guessing that's one of the adults who don't consult their.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Partner on big purchases. It was used by Darth Vader,
that's not a real person. So the number was forty percent,
so I means sixty percent don't consult their partner and
before large purchases.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Wow, okay, depends how you intermingle your finances. I guess,
I guess, geez. They're on coming up more of the uh.
The press conference over the capture of the assassin to
Charlie Kirk, it was as mundane, straightforward and horrifying as
we thought.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
A young man Utah, twenty two.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Years old who hated Charlie Kirk's ideas assassinated him.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So I've got a couple of things around kids today
or I guess society today. More likely, they didn't raise themselves,
a phrase we like around here for young people, and
the way they look at the world, either our parenting
or the education we put them in, is how they
came to their ideas. And then culture changes over time,
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like for instance, USA today, this was yesterday. Path to
adulthood takes new detours. And they've got a graph of
the path to adulthood in nineteen seventy five, which is
a long time ago. That is fifty years ago and
now and the biggest bulk of young people. So we're
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by young people. We're talking about twenty five five to
thirty four year olds, twenty five to thirty four year olds,
which weren't really as you'll see from the stats, you
wouldn't even have called them young people back then in
the same way that you do now, because nearly half
of that age group fifty years ago, nearly half had
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reached all four milestones of moved away from their parents
in the labor force, married with children. Almost half of
twenty five to thirty four year olds right now, that
percentage is eight percent. Oh mah, that have done all
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four of those adult milestones.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And I have a feeling you're gonna break down those
who have achieved one or two or three.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
OK, so if you were, well, if you're USA, I'll
tell you the way USA today presents it. And I
don't think that really the thing. I think it's more
cultural than this. So young adults are I'll read the
first paragraph, young adults are prioritizing economic security over marriage
and having children. You know, I've been arguing against this
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for years now. I don't believe that people are. I
really want to get married and have kids, but it's
just not financially prudent, so I'm gonna save my money
until I can. That is not what is happening okay,
and court pretending it is well and if you are stop,
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it'll be fine, you'll figure it out. I'm sure there
are unicorns out there who are but I don't think
that's what's going on. None of the young people I know,
and you know it's that's anecdotal, of course, but it's
you're going to concerts and traveling that you're not saving
your money so you can have a kid as soon
as possible. You don't want to have kids. Why are people?
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Why are people so unwilling to just say it loud?
I don't have kids. I think it would get in
the way of my life. I want to do stuff.
Why are people just not willing to admit that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I do know of a couple of kids of friends,
adults kids who say that that I want to make
sure I'm financially blah blah blah before we do this,
or blah blah blah. They actually say it, I don't
know whether they actually mean it. It's a good excuse
if you're not sure you want to get married, right,
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or not sure if you want to have kids at chester.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
For whatever reason, people in successful countries with good economies
have decided they don't want they don't have the urge
to have kids, right, People aren't making financial decisions about
children all these millennia. It just it was like the
biggest urge in your life. I think in all of our.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Years of babbling, I've never exactly articulated this. Before I
got married pretty young, uh, and Judy and I had kids.
You know, I was gone, gosh, twenty seven when Kate
was born, our first and thirty four when our third
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kid was born, And there was in getting married first
of all, and then when we had a child, I
definitely felt like I was fully a member of the
adult club. True, yeah, and got the respect. And I'm
looking at you, you're looking at me. We both understand
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something about life from other husbands and fathers.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I'm like, it was it was being at a
certain level or it's hard to describe.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't do that untill I was forty five,
till I had kids. But yes, it's the same experience.
And then when you meet another parent, you don't need
to say anything. You just both know. We you know,
we know what we're doing here. We are in we
are in it. We are in the real world of adulthood.
And that felt good. I was proud, absolutely, And if
you remove that from the culture entirely, that is absolutely
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going to affect people's behavior. If I'm a twenty one
year old kid right now and I don't feel the
slightest idea that one of the things my life ought
to include is X, well then you're not going to
tend to do it. And I don't feel by the
way that I was pressured or duped or pulled or
seduced or anything like that. It's yeah, quite the opposite. No,
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I went with my in with my eyes open, and
I found it to be a hundred times more satisfying
that I'd imagined it would be.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So, if anything, it was undersold, Yeah, well now it's
hardly being sold at all.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
This is not meant to be hurtful to people who
don't have kids or have decided to have kids or whatever.
But I can't wonderful, wonderful people. I can't even remember
the point of getting up in the morning before I
had children. I don't even know how there is a point.
I just don't you get bedsores if you don't so
get up. Not to make everything about Charlie Kirk, but
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that was one of his things he said at every
college gathering pretty much from what I read, is don't
talk about you can't afford it, do it anyway, You'll
figure it out, Get married, have kids. Yeah, different topic,
but also about young people. Unless you got more to
say on that one, I was just gonna.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Say it reminds me of a lot of the things
Jordan Peterson has said about take on some responsibility. You're
gonna love it because it'll make a man of you
or a woman. It'll make a human being of you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And another change in the way we look at the
world and the way people are behaving. This one was
earned by you, colleges across America. Value Americans place on
college education has crated in fifteen years. You wouldn't think
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it could change this much this fast, but you did
earn it. Colleges. Oh yeah, between the price and the
fact that there's all kinds of studies to show that
kids don't actually learn anything. And we look around as
at college kids and think, what are you doing? What
are these classes we are taking? What is this hitus
with the numbers, then I will cokay. In twenty ten,
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three quarters of Americans thought a college education was very
important three quarters. It is now down to a third.
Good creation. It dropped from three quarters to a third.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Wow, I think I think people see it as of
less value because it's of a lot less value.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That is why. Yeah, that is exact, hardly being taught
anything in half of that is crap. Yeah. And so
the not important went from damn near zero to a
quarter just flat out not important. Then fairly important is
has climbed and is now the bulk at forty. But
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not important went from like zero, like there's practically nobody
in America about well, it's not important whether you get
a college degree or not. Now a quarter people do,
and then and then the numbers the way the chart looks,
I would like to see what this looks like five
years from now.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Thank you for applying for this accounting job at Jones
and Jones Accounting. What do you believe is the most
important part of reconciling credits and debits?
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Colonialism? Speaking of which gender studies is that an answer
trends genderism? Speaking of which, we played this late in
the show yesterday because we needed the lighting up.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
It's a dark moment. But in the wake of the
shooting of poor Charlie Kirk. Fox News broke into their
coverage because their reporter told them she had a couple
of college students there at Utah Valley to talk to.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
And this is how it went well from what I'm hearing,
If if it's true, the guy who got shot, he
was a pretty big influence in whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Was going, like the their agenda.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Right, So if I don't know, I hope, I hope
it all like gets figured out. And I really don't
I really don't want this to happen again.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Want Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just
I from what I heard it was it was a
sniper from from a long ways away. So I don't know.
I think the focus of this should probably be on
probably some sort of some sort of gun control or
something like that, so that things like this can't happen again.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
When those two scholars come to my office and show
me their diploma, what do you think that makes me think?
About that diploma? Did you print this yourself? Do they
give it to anyone? Does this mean anything?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean anything. It honestly doesn't, right, Right,
I should take no information from you telling me you
graduated from college.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Other than that you showed up long enough. Well, you
remembered where the campus was for a few consecutive years.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You've hit us with the statistics that spend less time
in class than ever before. Right, so you barely art
AUDI and you stayed enrolled. Congratulations. Your parents probably figured
filled out the paperwork each semester until you graduated, So.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You remembered where the campus was four consecutive years. I
guess we can assume you'll be able to find your
way to work if we hire you. Beyond that, though,
this diploma means nothing, and.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I've talked about this, the turning point for me, are
recognizing The turning point for me was well, several years ago.
Go now in my university town, major university town, we're
doing trick or treating and I was talking to some
of the dads and I throughout thinking I was being controversial.
I don't even know if college education is what I
want my kids to get. And all the dads were like, yeah,
(30:15):
I know, me too. Unless it's something specific, I'm not
pushing my kid. And I was like, wow, in this town,
the parents have decided unless it's some specific like medical
thing or something engineering, my kids and not going to college.
I thought that is a big deal.
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about how worthless diplumbas were, and I was about to say,
as I've often said, the exception being the technical degrees.
If you're a chemical engineer, you know, computer science, whatever,
I completely respect your degree.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
But then it I was reminded that the post modernists,
the Marxists.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Insist, remember this, on every single field being centered around
decolonializing anti racism, in other words, neo Marxism, the whole
slew of radical this theory, radical, that theory, gender. They
want math class to be focused on anti colonialism.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They want to tear all of it down. So can
I trust your engineering degree? Depends where you went went.
I guess they got the shooter and we know who
it is and it's very mundane, and uh yeah, that's
I don't know, what did you expect and horrible, But
(32:51):
we got more details on that and a bunch of
other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
We want to start off today by saying that, as
I'm sure you've heard by now, conservative activist Charlie Kirk
was murdered yesterday at a college event Utah. We're horrified
by district test tragedy, and our condolences go out to
his family and loved ones.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Political violence is abhorrent. I like that. Seth Meyers said that.
Stephen Colbert said that. Jimmy Fallon said that practically everybody
is saying that which is good because it is abhorrent.
Did you see that Patrick Mahomes, the very Christian, very
rich Patrick Mahomes, announced yesterday that he would pledge to
(33:36):
pay all of Charlie Kirk's two children's living in education expenses. Wow.
I don't know how wealthy Charlie Kirk was. I know
he was running one hundred million dollar enterprise. I assumed
he's pretty wealthy himself. But anyway, it was a very
very nice gesture. Yeah, and interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
We mentioned earlier that the Yankees had a moment of silence,
almost certainly because they're players, and a hell of a
lot of their employees or young men who really respected
Charlie Kirk and appreciating his message as well.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Possible that Patrick Mahomes, as a guy stole in his
twenties and a Christian, wasn't like super into aware of
at least Charlie.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Kirk, right, right, If you're not up to date, perhaps
you're just tuning in. The authorities have the assassin of
Charlie Kirk in custody. He is, predictably but horrifyingly a
twenty two year old who became more and more political,
expressed strong dislike of Charlie Kirk and clearly is the shooter.
(34:39):
He was between family and friends who the authorities were
alerted that it was him, you know, and the messages
scratched on the shell casings were as they were described
to the law enforcement memo we brought you yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This has got to fit in some the graph we
were just talking about where in nineteen seventy five you
had dang near half of people under the age of
thirty four who had reached all four adult milestones of
moved away from their parents in the labor force, married,
had kids. Now it's eight percent. As Joe was talking
(35:14):
about how it changes your life when you have kids
and you become a grown you're just too damned busy
and plugged into everyday life to get all worked up
about some of these political things everybody tweets about all
day long. You don't have time to scroll Twitter, and
you know, a fume about some nuts comment when you're
raising kids.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right right, or we're just working a demanding job or
trying to build a career. The other aspect of this,
because I agree with you one hundred percent, and it
reminds me, in an odd way of our conversation with
Topo Padilla about bail bonds and these cash free bails
where you just turn the person loose with a signature
that says they'll come back to court, and they often don't.
(35:55):
What he emphasized was that it was family and friend
connections that got people to show up in court. The
people in their lives had chipped in to get them
out pre trial, et cetera, and uh, and it was
those connections that people value that brought them back to court.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You have, to a large extent, a generation or two
of people who.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Are not directly connected to people much. They have Internet relationships,
But this guy had no longtime girlfriend or fiance or whatever.
I suspect who he knew he would betrayed. He would
betrayed all of her hopes and dreams by doing what
(36:41):
he did.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You're gonna tell me that doesn't keep you in line,
of course, it does.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Relationships, connection to other human beings. How about a Scout troop?
What would a Scout troop think of him? I doubt
he had a Scout troop? What about the members of
his church?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Forget it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
How about to you know, the place he volunteered for,
you know, extra credit in the high school. What would
they think of it? No, I bet he was a
fairly disconnected person.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, that's a good point. When you're connected, you got
you got a lot more social pressure to not do
the crazy stuff in a healthy way. In a healthy
I don't want to let down the people who respect me. Yeah,
that has a good point that should be discussed more often.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
It was actually scheduled to do some some nine to
eleven events that the Vice President's team canceled that because
obviously they felt that this took priority just in terms
of being able to go there and to meet with
Charlie Kirk's family in Utah, and not only that, but
to take the family and his remains and the casket
back to Arizona where he lived with his family. It's
just a sign of reverence for Charlie Kirk and also
(00:45):
just signifies the impact of the relationship that jd Vance
and Charlie Kirk had.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, maybe you've seen the video jd Vance actually walking
with the casket as it was transferred to a plane.
He's close friends with the dude, and it'd be something
you have a friend gunned down like that.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Horrifying. Yeah, on virtually every level, So every level.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The big news that is out and the FBI is
having a press conference right now and we'll get more information,
is that the shooter turned himself in told apparently confessed
to his dad. Guilt got to him or something told
his dad. His dad convinced him to turn himself in,
and he's in custody and we're going to learn more
about it here in the next hour or so the story.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that shades and
changes the discussion. I'm not sure how much it should, honestly,
but it will certainly at least some. A couple of
my favorite thinkers weighing in on the whole thing, just
want to quote them briefly, A couple of the great
women of journalism and commentary. Peggy Noonan says, pray now
(01:51):
for America. We are in big trouble. We all know this.
We don't even know what to do with what we know.
But the assassination of Charlie Kirk feel different as an event,
like a hinge point, like something that is going to
reverbrate in new dark ways.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
It does.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It isn't just another dreadful thing. It carries the ominous
sense that we're at the beginning of something bad.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, you know, I hope that's not true, obviously, but
it does feel like a turning point. It could be
a turning point of Okay, we've gone too far and
we ratchet down, but I don't like our chances.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
She quotes one commentator saying yesterday afternoon that normally after
such events the temperature goes down a little, but not
in this case. And he's right there, the heartbroken, the indifferent,
than the era reconcilable blah blah blah acts Formally, Twitter
was from the moment of the shooting overrun with anguish
and rage. It's on now and Blue Sky, where supposedly
(02:50):
gentler folk fled, was gleefully violent, too bad. Live by
the gun, die by the gun. But what a disaster
all this is for the young, she writes, How was
a presence in the life The example he got, he said,
was a template for how to discuss politics with good
cheer and confidence, with sincerity and conversation, never violence.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
I forget what the percentages are, but a very low
percentage of people are on Twitter or Blue Sky, very low.
So how much should you look to that for what
the nation thinks since it's a tiny percentage of not
the most normal people that are on those platforms and post.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I would agree, I think in virtually, you know,
every day, in every way, it's much more healthy to
look at the people you are with and around, work,
your community. You're a place of worship if you have one.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
The Internet is not your world. Your world is your world.
It's a good point. Kim Strassel, Oh, I'm sorry, No,
this is we'll get to earn a second. Somebody else's
writing about Oh, the editorial board of the journal talking
about the various rage and glee and just sickness. And
(04:06):
then they say, for a better example, look to America's
college campuses where Charlie spent so much of his time
building his movement with Turning Point USA. And they go
through a bunch of University Alabama, about one hundred students
gathered to cry, pray, remember, and light Candle's political violence
has no place in America, they said. Country was found
on the idea of freedom of speech, and we should
all honor that. Similar crowd at Duke Big Crowd University
(04:28):
of Oklahoma came together Missouri, where he was going to
appear later this month at MISSOO. What Charlie did was
give people the ability to speak even if they disagreed
with him, said one student. We need to remember in
the aftermath of this that if there was ever a
goal or a reason that someone will want to kill him,
(04:49):
it is to stop us from talking to each other
the citadel. The list goes on and on. So I
found that positive. And then finally, this is Kim Strassel,
who makes the point, as we made the other day,
that the utter, undeluded horror of this is that Charlie
(05:14):
Kirk's message was never violence, Let's talk, and for a
man advocating that to be gunned down at thirty one
years old is a measure of the perversity of our
political discussion and how even as earnest and peaceful a
(05:35):
message is that gets portrayed as hate speech that hurts
people and needs to be ended well by some.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like I said multiple times yesterday, though if it was
somebody that was a real flamethrower, you still don't shoot him, right,
and you can't make an argument well, they brought it
on them. So with all the words that they said, what.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, I know what you're you're driving at, it seems
almost unnecessary or even counterproductive to strongly make the case.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And he, of all.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
People, didn't deserve political violence, because nobody does. I get
your point, and it's a good one. At the same time,
what I'm talking about is the diseased, hyperbolic political messaging
of our time that could turn someone as peaceful and
earnest as Charlie Kirk into a Satan who must be slayed.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
M right, Yeah, that is troubling. So if you lean right,
you're of the belief that one of the reasons Democrats
can't win national elections right now is.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They believe Twitter is the world, right.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And that that time guy and that tiny loud group
of people on social media they have to react to.
But when big stories happen, we turn to the reactions
on Twitter's and Twitter and Blue Sky and act like
that's the world. I mean, we know it's not. I don't.
I don't know if we can survive social media. We're
(07:14):
not smart enough to like fully embrace the fact that
that's a tiny percent of not normal people right commenting
on there.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, when for ninety nine point nine to nine nine
percentage of the time human beings have had a frontal
lobe and the ability to reason, the entirety of the
inputs we took in were personally experienced in your own life.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Your eyes, your ears, your nose, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And then the printing press came on a blip of
go and people were exposed to ideas and events that
happened far from us. And then cable news twenty four
hours of the most horrible things that can happen, and
now social media on practically unrestricted exposure to the sickest,
angriest minds on Earth reacting to the most terrible events
(08:07):
that have taken place on Earth. I don't think it's
a beast. We're designed to endure that. In fact, I
know we're not. I know with certainty we're not. Whether
we can adapt and deal with it somehow is the question?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Mark man. Nutpicking is so dangerous. You pick out the
most vile person on the other side and let that
seep into your brain that they represent the other side.
They don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, here's the equation we need, though, or a formula
that we all memorize. If three people on Blue Sky
say horrific things about Charlie Kirk, that's of no significance.
Everybody knows they're sick. F's in the world and there
always will be. But what if thirty thousands say it?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
What is that? Does that?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Then you divide it by ten over the power of
something and you then deduce that, Okay, five percent of
the third of people who identify as progressive are sick
angry f's, as I put it charmingly, I'll go because
it's not of no significance. It's just hard to know
(09:20):
how much significance to attribute to it. And I wish
I could help you all with that, but I'm still
trying to figure out myself.
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So the governor just announced what was written on the
bullet casing. I'll have that four you ride up for this. Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's good to be right. The Governor of Utah finally
confirming what was written on the bullet casings of the
scumbag shooter.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So, the area north of Campus Drive Road where the
suspect crossed over you saw some of that in the
video that we released last night, consists of a grassy
area with trees. On the edge of the UVU campus
investigators discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark
colored towel. The rifle was determined to be a Mouser
Model ninety eight thirty yacht six thirty six caliber bolt
(11:10):
action rifle. The rifle had a scope mounted on top
of it. Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on
casings found with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing
read notices bulges, capital, wo, what's this question?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Mark.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch,
exclamation point, up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol, and
three down arrow symbols.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
A second unfired casing.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Read oh, bella chow bella chow bella chow chow chow.
And a third unfired casing red.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
If you read this you are gay. Lmao. The bella
Chow is a song favored by reason existence movements and
revolutionary anti capitalist partisans. I am told by Noah Roffman,
who happens to be writing a book right now about
liberal violence or left wing violence. Wow, sure he'll be
(12:14):
updating that book, so writing on the casings, which has
happened now a couple of times. Who came up with
that idea? Do you you assume people are going to
find the casings? And then does it seem extra clever?
I don't what are you doing there?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You want your purpose known even if you get away
with it.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I don't know where there's a.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Report that it was a family friend, the governor said,
I guess in the press conference it was a family
friend who turned in the shooter or urged him to
turn himself in.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We'll we'll find out. I don't like the direction all
this is going. All right, We got more on the
way you could comment on anything text line four KFTC.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody
at ten pm local time, in less than thirty six
hours thirty three to be precise, thanks to the full
weight of the federal government and leading out with the
partners here in the state of Utah, Governor Cox, the
suspect was apprehended in historic time period.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, he turned himself in, so I don't okay.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, The governor himself took over at the press conference
and gave us all sorts of the information that we
have been looking for.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We'll start here. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had
confessed to them or implied that he had committed the incident.
Investigators interviewed a family member of Robinson, who stated that
Robinson had become more political in recent years. The family
(14:02):
member referenced a recent incident in which Robinson came to
dinner prior to September tenth, and in the conversation with
another family member, Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.
They talked about why they didn't like him and the
viewpoints that he had. The family member also stated Kirk
was full of hate and spreading hate.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Go on mister Governor.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Roommate who stated that his roommate, referring to Robinson, made
a joke on discord, Investigators asked if he would show
them the messages on discord. He opened it and showed
several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos
of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate.
These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages
(14:50):
between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon
and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages fluted
messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to
retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle
in a bush, messages related to visually watching the area
(15:13):
where a rifle was left, and a message referring to
having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages
also referred to engraving bullets and a mention of a
scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact
Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
The next clip, I think is what we've heard about
the odd messages on the bullets, which need to be
decoded for a lot of us. But so it appears
to be precisely what it seemed to be. A person
who hated Charlie Kirk killed him over his ideas.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
And the whole high powered rifle thing. Well that's true enough,
but it's like one of the most common guns in America.
Every kid I knew when I was like a junior
high high school kid living in deer hunting country had
a thirty odd to six. I mean, it's like super
super common and not difficult to use. So I don't know,
(16:22):
I feel like they're tarting it up as making it
seem very exotic, But it's not. It's the opposite of exotic.
It's like the standard hunting rifle. Yeah, yeah, and it's
and if you're a hunter with a scope, it's not
that difficult to make that kind of shot from that
distance right right. To do it when you know you're
(16:42):
about to kill somebody and and and be on the run,
that's a different question. But if you're kind of nuts,
maybe that keeps you calm. I don't know, so I.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Don't know what to say other than everything we've said
over the last forty eight hours turns out to be
more or less the case. Yeah, I'll be interested to
hear the decoding of some of the messages on the
shell casings.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm at this point thinking there's
nothing to nothing to change the conversation whatsoever. I'm glad
they caught the person that did it, so they're not
on the run to hurt anybody else. But other than that,
the conversation is exactly the same as yesterday, and.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
The stupidity and futility of it is one of the
hardest things to take, along with obviously the loss of
a young father's life, but.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Just the stupidity of it.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, all right, Well, as the press conference goes on,
we'll certainly mine it for anything that you need to know,
and we'll bring it to you and share some commentary
as well. A bunch of other stories we need to
get to today, and we will get to them in
due course as we can.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I mean, there's plenty of videos out there, various nut
jobs cheering this when they got the news and everything
like that. How you could possibly convince yourself that this
is going to make America a safer, better place in
any way, when you have political violence, you are You're crazy, armstrong,
and getty. According to a.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
New survey, forty percent of adults consult their partner before
making a large purchase, while others clearly don't. The lightsaber,
used by Darth Vader in the first Star Wars trilogy,
recently sold at auction for nearly four million dollars. So
guessing that's one of the adults who don't consult their.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Partner on big purchases. It was used by Darth Vader,
that's not a real person. So the number was forty percent,
so I means sixty percent don't consult their partner and
before large purchases.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Wow, okay, depends how you intermingle your finances. I guess,
I guess, geez. They're on coming up more of the uh.
The press conference over the capture of the assassin to
Charlie Kirk, it was as mundane, straightforward and horrifying as
we thought.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
A young man Utah, twenty two.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Years old who hated Charlie Kirk's ideas assassinated him.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
So I've got a couple of things around kids today
or I guess society today. More likely, they didn't raise themselves,
a phrase we like around here for young people, and
the way they look at the world, either our parenting
or the education we put them in, is how they
came to their ideas. And then culture changes over time,
(19:34):
like for instance, USA today, this was yesterday. Path to
adulthood takes new detours. And they've got a graph of
the path to adulthood in nineteen seventy five, which is
a long time ago. That is fifty years ago and
now and the biggest bulk of young people. So we're
(19:58):
by young people. We're talking about twenty five five to
thirty four year olds, twenty five to thirty four year olds,
which weren't really as you'll see from the stats, you
wouldn't even have called them young people back then in
the same way that you do now, because nearly half
of that age group fifty years ago, nearly half had
(20:19):
reached all four milestones of moved away from their parents
in the labor force, married with children. Almost half of
twenty five to thirty four year olds right now, that
percentage is eight percent. Oh mah, that have done all
(20:42):
four of those adult milestones.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
And I have a feeling you're gonna break down those
who have achieved one or two or three.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
OK, so if you were, well, if you're USA, I'll
tell you the way USA today presents it. And I
don't think that really the thing. I think it's more
cultural than this. So young adults are I'll read the
first paragraph, young adults are prioritizing economic security over marriage
and having children. You know, I've been arguing against this
(21:12):
for years now. I don't believe that people are. I
really want to get married and have kids, but it's
just not financially prudent, so I'm gonna save my money
until I can. That is not what is happening okay,
and court pretending it is well and if you are stop,
(21:32):
it'll be fine, you'll figure it out. I'm sure there
are unicorns out there who are but I don't think
that's what's going on. None of the young people I know,
and you know it's that's anecdotal, of course, but it's
you're going to concerts and traveling that you're not saving
your money so you can have a kid as soon
as possible. You don't want to have kids. Why are people?
(21:52):
Why are people so unwilling to just say it loud?
I don't have kids. I think it would get in
the way of my life. I want to do stuff.
Why are people just not willing to admit that.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I do know of a couple of kids of friends,
adults kids who say that that I want to make
sure I'm financially blah blah blah before we do this,
or blah blah blah. They actually say it, I don't
know whether they actually mean it. It's a good excuse
if you're not sure you want to get married, right,
(22:23):
or not sure if you want to have kids at chester.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
For whatever reason, people in successful countries with good economies
have decided they don't want they don't have the urge
to have kids, right, People aren't making financial decisions about
children all these millennia. It just it was like the
biggest urge in your life. I think in all of our.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Years of babbling, I've never exactly articulated this. Before I
got married pretty young, uh, and Judy and I had kids.
You know, I was gone, gosh, twenty seven when Kate
was born, our first and thirty four when our third
(23:09):
kid was born, And there was in getting married first
of all, and then when we had a child, I
definitely felt like I was fully a member of the
adult club. True, yeah, and got the respect. And I'm
looking at you, you're looking at me. We both understand
(23:31):
something about life from other husbands and fathers.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And I'm like, it was it was being at a
certain level or it's hard to describe.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't do that untill I was forty five,
till I had kids. But yes, it's the same experience.
And then when you meet another parent, you don't need
to say anything. You just both know. We you know,
we know what we're doing here. We are in we
are in it. We are in the real world of adulthood.
And that felt good. I was proud, absolutely, And if
you remove that from the culture entirely, that is absolutely
(24:05):
going to affect people's behavior. If I'm a twenty one
year old kid right now and I don't feel the
slightest idea that one of the things my life ought
to include is X, well then you're not going to
tend to do it. And I don't feel by the
way that I was pressured or duped or pulled or
seduced or anything like that. It's yeah, quite the opposite. No,
(24:31):
I went with my in with my eyes open, and
I found it to be a hundred times more satisfying
that I'd imagined it would be.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
So, if anything, it was undersold, Yeah, well now it's
hardly being sold at all.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
This is not meant to be hurtful to people who
don't have kids or have decided to have kids or whatever.
But I can't wonderful, wonderful people. I can't even remember
the point of getting up in the morning before I
had children. I don't even know how there is a point.
I just don't you get bedsores if you don't so
get up. Not to make everything about Charlie Kirk, but
(25:06):
that was one of his things he said at every
college gathering pretty much from what I read, is don't
talk about you can't afford it, do it anyway, You'll
figure it out, Get married, have kids. Yeah, different topic,
but also about young people. Unless you got more to
say on that one, I was just gonna.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Say it reminds me of a lot of the things
Jordan Peterson has said about take on some responsibility. You're
gonna love it because it'll make a man of you
or a woman. It'll make a human being of you.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
And another change in the way we look at the
world and the way people are behaving. This one was
earned by you, colleges across America. Value Americans place on
college education has crated in fifteen years. You wouldn't think
(25:59):
it could change this much this fast, but you did
earn it. Colleges. Oh yeah, between the price and the
fact that there's all kinds of studies to show that
kids don't actually learn anything. And we look around as
at college kids and think, what are you doing? What
are these classes we are taking? What is this hitus
with the numbers, then I will cokay. In twenty ten,
(26:21):
three quarters of Americans thought a college education was very
important three quarters. It is now down to a third.
Good creation. It dropped from three quarters to a third.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Wow, I think I think people see it as of
less value because it's of a lot less value.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That is why. Yeah, that is exact, hardly being taught
anything in half of that is crap. Yeah. And so
the not important went from damn near zero to a
quarter just flat out not important. Then fairly important is
has climbed and is now the bulk at forty. But
(27:04):
not important went from like zero, like there's practically nobody
in America about well, it's not important whether you get
a college degree or not. Now a quarter people do,
and then and then the numbers the way the chart looks,
I would like to see what this looks like five
years from now.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Thank you for applying for this accounting job at Jones
and Jones Accounting. What do you believe is the most
important part of reconciling credits and debits?
Speaker 8 (27:29):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Colonialism? Speaking of which gender studies is that an answer
trends genderism? Speaking of which, we played this late in
the show yesterday because we needed the lighting up.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
It's a dark moment. But in the wake of the
shooting of poor Charlie Kirk. Fox News broke into their
coverage because their reporter told them she had a couple
of college students there at Utah Valley to talk to.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
And this is how it went well from what I'm hearing,
If if it's true, the guy who got shot, he
was a pretty big influence in whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Was going, like the their agenda.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
Right, So if I don't know, I hope, I hope
it all like gets figured out. And I really don't
I really don't want this to happen again.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Want Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just
I from what I heard it was it was a
sniper from from a long ways away. So I don't know.
I think the focus of this should probably be on
probably some sort of some sort of gun control or
something like that, so that things like this can't happen again.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
When those two scholars come to my office and show
me their diploma, what do you think that makes me think?
About that diploma? Did you print this yourself? Do they
give it to anyone? Does this mean anything?
Speaker 1 (29:09):
No, it doesn't. It doesn't mean anything. It honestly doesn't, right, Right,
I should take no information from you telling me you
graduated from college.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Other than that you showed up long enough. Well, you
remembered where the campus was for a few consecutive years.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You've hit us with the statistics that spend less time
in class than ever before. Right, so you barely art
AUDI and you stayed enrolled. Congratulations. Your parents probably figured
filled out the paperwork each semester until you graduated, So.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
You remembered where the campus was four consecutive years. I
guess we can assume you'll be able to find your
way to work if we hire you. Beyond that, though,
this diploma means nothing, and.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I've talked about this, the turning point for me, are
recognizing The turning point for me was well, several years ago.
Go now in my university town, major university town, we're
doing trick or treating and I was talking to some
of the dads and I throughout thinking I was being controversial.
I don't even know if college education is what I
want my kids to get. And all the dads were like, yeah,
(30:15):
I know, me too. Unless it's something specific, I'm not
pushing my kid. And I was like, wow, in this town,
the parents have decided unless it's some specific like medical
thing or something engineering, my kids and not going to college.
I thought that is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
I want to tell you what thoughts just pingpongs through
my heads. At my head, I just have the one
after a word from if you had two or more,
that should be the lead. Well I had the second
one moved because people kept looking at me.
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Funny.
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here's what ping pong threw my head. I was talking
about how worthless diplumbas were, and I was about to say,
as I've often said, the exception being the technical degrees.
If you're a chemical engineer, you know, computer science, whatever,
I completely respect your degree.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
But then it I was reminded that the post modernists,
the Marxists.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Insist, remember this, on every single field being centered around
decolonializing anti racism, in other words, neo Marxism, the whole
slew of radical this theory, radical, that theory, gender. They
want math class to be focused on anti colonialism.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
They want to tear all of it down. So can
I trust your engineering degree? Depends where you went went.
I guess they got the shooter and we know who
it is and it's very mundane, and uh yeah, that's
I don't know, what did you expect and horrible, But
(32:51):
we got more details on that and a bunch of
other stuff on the way. Stay here.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
We want to start off today by saying that, as
I'm sure you've heard by now, conservative activist Charlie Kirk
was murdered yesterday at a college event Utah. We're horrified
by district test tragedy, and our condolences go out to
his family and loved ones.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Political violence is abhorrent. I like that. Seth Meyers said that.
Stephen Colbert said that. Jimmy Fallon said that practically everybody
is saying that which is good because it is abhorrent.
Did you see that Patrick Mahomes, the very Christian, very
rich Patrick Mahomes, announced yesterday that he would pledge to
(33:36):
pay all of Charlie Kirk's two children's living in education expenses. Wow.
I don't know how wealthy Charlie Kirk was. I know
he was running one hundred million dollar enterprise. I assumed
he's pretty wealthy himself. But anyway, it was a very
very nice gesture. Yeah, and interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
We mentioned earlier that the Yankees had a moment of silence,
almost certainly because they're players, and a hell of a
lot of their employees or young men who really respected
Charlie Kirk and appreciating his message as well.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Possible that Patrick Mahomes, as a guy stole in his
twenties and a Christian, wasn't like super into aware of
at least Charlie.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Kirk, right, right, If you're not up to date, perhaps
you're just tuning in. The authorities have the assassin of
Charlie Kirk in custody. He is, predictably but horrifyingly a
twenty two year old who became more and more political,
expressed strong dislike of Charlie Kirk and clearly is the shooter.
(34:39):
He was between family and friends who the authorities were
alerted that it was him, you know, and the messages
scratched on the shell casings were as they were described
to the law enforcement memo we brought you yesterday.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
This has got to fit in some the graph we
were just talking about where in nineteen seventy five you
had dang near half of people under the age of
thirty four who had reached all four adult milestones of
moved away from their parents in the labor force, married,
had kids. Now it's eight percent. As Joe was talking
(35:14):
about how it changes your life when you have kids
and you become a grown you're just too damned busy
and plugged into everyday life to get all worked up
about some of these political things everybody tweets about all
day long. You don't have time to scroll Twitter, and
you know, a fume about some nuts comment when you're
raising kids.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Right right, or we're just working a demanding job or
trying to build a career. The other aspect of this,
because I agree with you one hundred percent, and it
reminds me, in an odd way of our conversation with
Topo Padilla about bail bonds and these cash free bails
where you just turn the person loose with a signature
that says they'll come back to court, and they often don't.
(35:55):
What he emphasized was that it was family and friend
connections that got people to show up in court. The
people in their lives had chipped in to get them
out pre trial, et cetera, and uh, and it was
those connections that people value that brought them back to court.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
You have, to a large extent, a generation or two
of people who.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Are not directly connected to people much. They have Internet relationships,
But this guy had no longtime girlfriend or fiance or whatever.
I suspect who he knew he would betrayed. He would
betrayed all of her hopes and dreams by doing what
(36:41):
he did.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You're gonna tell me that doesn't keep you in line,
of course, it does.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Relationships, connection to other human beings. How about a Scout troop?
What would a Scout troop think of him? I doubt
he had a Scout troop? What about the members of
his church?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Forget it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
How about to you know, the place he volunteered for,
you know, extra credit in the high school. What would
they think of it? No, I bet he was a
fairly disconnected person.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, that's a good point. When you're connected, you got
you got a lot more social pressure to not do
the crazy stuff in a healthy way. In a healthy
I don't want to let down the people who respect me. Yeah,
that has a good point that should be discussed more often.
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