October 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Conflict with Venezuela & baseball calls
- Female spies & fake families
- Gavin running for President, bad stories & spying on Silicon Valley
- Kamala vs Gavin for 2028
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Since September, the US military has blown up at least
ten vessels, killing more than three dozen alleged drug smugglers,
most of them off the coast of Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
What I can say is that I've used this phrase before.
This is like cooking an egg with a blowtorch. F
thirty five's Arley Bird class destroyers. Submarines aren't normally what
we need to go after small boats of fishing boats.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I was really interested in sixty minutes first story
last night about Venezuela. Like when these news magazines they
take a story that's in the news and then they
give you a bigger picture, more in depth version of
it when they got more time to flesh it out.
But the amount of firepower we have around Venezuela right now.
We've got the world's biggest aircraft carrier that thank god
(01:11):
we own, headed there with another five thousand sailors on it,
in addition to the ten thousand marines that are already there,
and all kinds of warplanes and this and that, and
you know you better back off Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know you said we're not
going to take questions till the end. But all that
stuff to do what.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, I think I got a I definitely have a theory,
and it's beyond the theory. I think it's clearly true
coming up. But here's more from that guy who was
whatever where he was, I don't remember. He was the
former ambassador thinker just anything like that. James Story is
his name. But this is him describing the government of Venezuela.
Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is a criminal organization masquerading as a government. This
is an individual who is under indictment from arcatast trafficking
commits him and right violations, someone who has used the
apparatus of the state to throw people in jail, to
torture them, to kill them.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, pretty miserable place to live, But there's lots of
place in miserable places to live in the world. We
don't put the world's biggest aircraft carrier off their coast,
get ten thousand marines ready to invade.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, it's Venezuela as a neighbor. I mean, sure, look
at a map. It's right across the Caribbean from US.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I looked it up last night. It's about twelve hundred
miles from Florida, which ain't that far be like how
far we are from Denver. They interviewed a bunch of
people there on the street who, like most these kind
of countries, were scared to speak openly because you don't
(02:47):
get to talk out loud. This is Senator Rick Scott
of Florida, who's the closest to Venezuela, talking about Madero
in the message he should be getting from Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Republican Senator Rick Scott of Florida says Maduro should hop
on a one way flight himself.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Actually, if I was Madu, I had to rush your
China right now because his days are numbered. Something's going
to happen, whether it's internal or external. I think something's
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The firepower that's off the coast right, this is urald Maya,
This is a lot of US forces.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Are we about to invade Venezuela? I think so.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean, if we do, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He'd be surprised if we invaded Venezuela. I don't think, so,
why don't you keep checking on that and get back
to us. And it wasn't like a It wasn't an
oh hell no, of course not. What are you crazy?
Probably not landing marines on the beach of Venezuela and
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then doing what with it? Digging it over.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, occupying it for many years at the cost of
many lives, would be very bad.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Senators got went on, what do you think we're moving?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Maduro would signal to other socialist regimes.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And may it'll be the end of Cuba.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Cuba relies on subsidized venezuela and oil to prop up
its economy.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
America is going to take care of the Southern hemisphere
and we're going to make sure that they're freedom and democracy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So what's going on there that I think clearly true?
We're talking about this maybe six months ago. Mark Aupern
was writing that the big conversation that was going on
in DC, and I don't know how this isn't like
expanded out to more of an international consciousness, But everybody
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is talking about this whole sphere of influences thing that
China was going to run their part of the world
and we're going to run our part of the world.
And that's just the way the world's going to get
divided up. And that's the way Trump sees it, and
that's where a lot of the heavy hitters see it.
And China's going to take Taiwan at some point and
they're going to control shipping in that part of the world.
And that sucks because we've had free shipping around the
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world for a very very long time. But those days
are over. But we're going to control our part of
the world. And Venezuela, which has the largest I didn't
know this largest stockpile of oil reserves on the entire planet,
and a whole bunch of those rare earth minerals that
China has that we don't have. We are going to
start taking our part of the world, just like China's
taken their part of the world. That's that's what the
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future is gonna hold.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well in the two things reinforce themselves too, because I mean,
if China is being a big bully there in the
South China Sea and all those incredibly important shipping lanes,
then we turn even more toward our hemisphere manufacturing for instance,
right and away from Asia you know, I could really
easily make a hawkish argument for why, at least in principle,
(05:53):
booting out the Maduro regime in Venezuela, or is the
you know, the communist regime in Cuba, Why that's completely defensible.
The very very short version of it is, even if
those are initially systems that are embraced by the populace
self determination, which we are in favor of, they become
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utterly mobbed up kleptocracies.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Communism always does.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Socialism always does, and that's certainly the case in those
two places.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So you've got.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Powerful goons who have taken over those countries to the
detriment of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
As we are the most.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Powerful nongon on earth, why would we permit that it's
not self determination, it's kleptocracy masquerading a self determination. So
we boot them out and institute a more American friendly regime.
That's totally defensible to me. Here's the rub that's really
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really hard to do, expensive in both blood and treasure.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, Venezuela wasn't always like this, As they pointed out
on sixty Minutes, freedom isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The only thing in short supply in Venezuela, Hunger, chronic blackouts,
and a scarcity of essential medicines plagued the country. Today,
more than seventy percent of residents live in poverty. It
is a stunning reversal of fortune for a nation that
was once one of the wealthiest.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Countries in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Venezuela's economy was crippled by disastrous socialist policies and mismanagement.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, one of the richest countries in the world became
socialist and now is seventy percent of the people that
are poor right them in The video from there was
absolutely amazing. And so here's one of the people they
interviewed on the street to what it would be like
if they if we got rid of Maduro.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Back at the market in Caracas, this woman said the
fifty dollars a week that she earns isn't enough to
feed her family and courageously answered.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This question, what do you think would.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Happen if President Medua was removed from office? Venezuela would change,
She said, we would all be free. She told us
she has plans to move to Spain in a few months.
Nearly eight million Venezuelans have fled the country in the
last decade, roughly one fifth of its population.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow, how about that. I'm just as an aside.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear sixty minutes states so unequivocally.
How a prosperous, beautiful by the way a nation was
brought to its knees by socialism?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right, Henry Weis's effect, I don't know, maybe, and then
always people flee socialist countries to go to free countries.
Nobody's fleeing the United States other than Rosie O'Donnell and
Ellen DeGeneres to go to Venezuela or Cuba.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, only cop killers with fake African names who were
later revered on college.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Campuses go to those communist regimes. And we've been known
about this, Vin. You know, we got the World series
going on tonight with the Dodgers and the greatest announced
in Dodger history. Vincecully warned us about this a long
time ago.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Socialism failing to work as it always does this time
in Venezuela. You talk about giving everybody something free, and
all of a sudden there's no food to eat. And
who do you think is the richest person in Venezuela?
The daughter of Hugo Chamas. Hello anyway, all and.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
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before they get that oh two pitch going. We need
more of that, I mean more of that tonight e
fouls went off and while he's returned to the plate,
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(09:43):
Ukraine got Tomahawk missiles they might be able to get
some of that ground back. Anyway, show Heytani on deck.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
The problem with tariffs is that it stifles competition at home.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Here's the three one right, Yeah, and I think I
von Danni wins. He'll be the face the Democratic Party. Well,
that brings up smell oh more of that.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I wonder if we could get implied oral consent from
Major League Baseball and do our own play by play.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
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Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's tough to leave socialism and communism behind because the
working people become completely dependent on the government's handouts and
upward mobility is crushed. But you're selling the possibility when
you get back to market economies and freedom. You're selling
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them on the possibility that they can move up. But
first you've got to wean yourself from the heroine of socialism,
and it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's why I am so geeked.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm so enthused that Javier Milat in Argentina, speaking of big,
beautiful countries that ought to be prosperous, he and his
party just had a huge victory in the equivalent of
the midterms, the big legislative elections. Because there has been
some pain. He's brought inflation down from oh do I
(11:57):
have it in front of me, down two thirty two percent.
Their inflation is thirty two percent a year. Do you
know what it was two years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Two hundred percent? Ours? It were our worst year's the
one ozer delivery ours It at worst was like nine
and that was for a cup of coffee and we
all went nuts. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, But the people of Venezuela who and and the
pironass they call them, it's the old communist socialists who.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And this is the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Every single time, when you concentrate power in the government
and all the business has to flow through the government,
the government and their cronies get crazy rich and control
everything to their benefit, not to the benefit of the people,
you idiots. Anyway, there was some thought that the people
would be chafing under you know, the austerity and the
tougher times, but no, they responded with a huge victory
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to keep going down the road toward free markets. And
I'm just so happy, I can't stand it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And that's why the sixteen to nineteen broadject is inaccurate.
We'll come back with the seventh inning stretch. We do
need more of that. I know, I'd love that. I'd
listen to that telcase.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's like the Manning cast on Monday Night Football with
Elon Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
We could do a similar thing. We got more on
the waist here anyway. Ohing two yo, yo yo. How
you doing? You excited about a new week? Huh? Back
to work? Isn't it good to be back to work
and see that stuff on your desk you didn't do Friday? Ah,
that's a good shut up.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, a lot of good stuff to talk about to
squeeze in the show, more than we can get to
update from how things are going for conservatives at Harvard
not well. Any pretense that they've cleaned up their actice silly.
Both of these stories sound like they're presented for prurient reasons.
Neither one of them are. They're actually quite interesting coming
up in a moment. Breathing through our butts has been
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declared safe after the first human trial. I'm not laughing,
I'm coughing a little both. There was a human trial, Yes, yes,
can I like if I squeeze really hard. Can I
breathe through my You try hard enough? That's right, everybody
try no. I'll explain a minute or two. I found
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this really interesting. I'm aware of expaling that way. A
lot of people do that and they shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This is from the Times of London. Female spies are
waging sex warfare to steal Silicon Valley secrets. China and
Russia are both sending attractive women to seduce tech workers,
even marrying and having children with their targets in a
desperate attempt to get ahead and stay ahead tech and AI.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You're not a sex worker. If you actually marry them
and have children, you're a I don't know what you are.
Your spy?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, oh yeah. Nobody's calling them sex workers. They're they're spies.
Chinese Russian operatives are using sex warfare to seduce and
spy on Silic Valley professionals. James Mulvanan, the chief intelligence
officer of amer Consulting, which provides risk assessments for American
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companies investing in China, said he was one of the
many men recently targeted by forness seductresses hoping to gain
access to US secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm getting an enormous number of very sophisticated LinkedIn requests
from the same type of attractive young Chinese women.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It seems to have really ramped up recently.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He described at how at a business conference on Chinese
investment risks hosted in Virginia last week, two attractive Chinese
women showed up and attempted to gain entry. We didn't
let them in, but they had all the information about
the event and everything else. He said, it's a phenomenon.
And I will tell you it's really weird.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That is a heck of a commitment to your country
that you're going to meet a guy, woo him, marry him,
have kids with him. I mean, that's really caring about
your Wow. Wow, or you're well, you're in the spy service.
It's I've read various autobiographies of both men and women
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who are in the KGB and how you get recruited
young and your train and that the all day, every
day of raising a kid. If you've done it, it's
a lot of work. It's your whole life. You're doing
all that as part of your being a spy. Wow. Right,
let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Uh oh, here's the interesting part. And I've been trying
to tell you this for a long time. Both Russia
and the CCP are using ordinary citizens, investors, cryptoanalysts, businessmen,
academics to target their American counterparts rather than trained agents,
which makes the esponars harder to spot.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
We're not chasing a KGB agent in a smoky guest
house in Germany anymore, said one senior US counter intelligence official.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Our adversaries, particularly the Chinese, are using a whole of
society approach to exploit all aspects of our technology and
Western talent.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Can you imagine you find out your wife and mother
of your two kids, you've been married for ten years,
only did it to spy for the Communists? Yeah? I know, Boy,
would that be rock your world shattering? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I want to get to the breathing through your butt
thing in a bit, but you don't have time because
I want to wrap this up. Yeah. Anyway, what was
I going to say? Oh, I've been trying. Not with
that attitude, you can't. I've told this story many times,
but it's worth retelling it. It was about a decade
ago that the FBI went to a particular large California
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university and their counterintelligence folks warned the president of the university,
you have a lot of Chinese agents on your campus
masquerading as researchers.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And they were told, quote, get off my campus, you racists.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
There are thousands, tens of thousands Chinese nationals in the
United States right now doing the work of the Communist Party,
spending all day, every day doing the work of the
Communist Party.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I stand by those words. So you claim humans can
breathe through their anis pretty much yeah, And you're gonna
explain that coming up.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yes, stay with us Armstrong and Getty after the twenty
twenty six midterms.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You're going to give it serious thought. Yeah, I'd be lying.
Otherwise I'd just be lying, And I can't do that.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Governor, you have long said that if you ever run
for the White House you need a compelling why.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
A reason.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Are you moving closer to figuring out your own why
and your own decision?
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Yeah, And he's just said if you compelling why, you
can endure anyhow.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And so I don't think. I think the biggest challenge.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
For anyone who runs for any office is people see
right through you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
If you don't have that why. He's got a little
bit of the Kamala Harris problem. I've noticed that he
never answers questions, and even when he tries, it's mystifying
what he's trying to say. Sometimes, right, he's not quite
the no, No, he's not word salad shooter. It's not mockable,
but he doesn't. Maybe maybe it's on purpose, maybe it's
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a skill, and maybe that'll help him. But you know
the famous clip about the trans athlete thing. He never
said anything right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
He hints at things yeah and hopes he'll nod your
head yeah, and assume that he agrees with you. Here's
here's the why. Here's how you answer that question, why
you're running for president? Having ruined California. The only way
to cover up my miserable record is to ruin the
other forty nine states, so California doesn't stand out anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, we'll have more than enough time to talk about
the next presidential election. I'll tell you that. I just
was telling Hanson in the hallway. I said, I don't
know if I got another presidential election in me, so
I'm in no hurry to get to that came across this.
Mark Alpern tweeted this out in his newsletter today, he said,
I do this. I tweet this out every couple months.
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Is a public service. Thing is interesting is hearing someone's
air travel nightmare story. Is hearing their customer service nightmare story.
They're both approximately equally compelling. He's being sarcastic, of course,
said I tweet this out every couple months as a
public service, and we all should know. I think that's
an interesting phenomenon. But we all should be aware of them.
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The things that are really interesting in your own life
when that happen, that are of no interest in anyone
else in the retelling. We should all have a list
of those things so that we would be handy. So
do we all embarrass ourselves or bore other people. But
it's pretty sounds pretty true though somebody else's travel nightmare
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story or customer service nightmare story is not usually that good.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Unless you are a master storyteller right and inflect it
with you know, humor and irony and that sort of no,
just in the mirror, no, no, don't bother. It's like
Buddy mine years ago, he showed up to play golf
with hat that says nobody cares how you played.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's true, that might be a good one. How your
golf round went, unless you're really talking with someone else's
for some reason highly wants to know the specific Some
raptors steals your ball and flies away. I mean that's
interest instance. Yeah right, yeah, get your foot bit off
by an alligator, that'd be a story.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, pretty good. Made a couple of birdies. That's plenty
long enough anyway. Having said that, back to the spying,
particularly on Silicon Valley stuff, and how both Russia and
the Communist Chinese are using ordinary citizens rather than professional spies,
which makes them harder to spot in all sorts of assignments.
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And there's all sorts of figures for how much it
costs the US and theft, and all sorts of cases
of people being arrested having stolen documents from their job
at Tesla, for instance.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But listen to this, would you.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One former counterintelligence official who now helps Silicon Valley founders
divest their foreign investments, said he recently investigated the case
of one beautiful Russian woman who worked at an aerospace
company and married an American colleague. He discovered that she
had gone to a modeling academy in her twenties, but
later attended a Russian soft power school before disappearing for
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a decade and re emerging in the US as a
crypto currency expert. But she doesn't stay in crypto, the
ex official said. She's trying to get to the heights
of the military space innovation community. The husband's totally oblivious
showing up, marrying a target, having kids with the target,
and conducting a lifelong collection operation. It's uncomfortable to think about,
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but it's so prevalent, he said. If I wanted to
be out of the shadows, I'd write a book on it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And I would read that book. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah,
I'd say, man, you're you're right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean, I get like, I'm such a fan of
the Americans and the fabulous Kerrie Russell's no series The Diplomat,
But you know, the deep undercover Russian cups that moved
the illegals they called them, who moved here. Very American,
I spoke, unexcitedli like the if you're a Marvel movie fan,
like the Black Widow's.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Parents, that's the whole thing. They are here from Russia,
My godness, really, fake fake marriage, relationship, raising kids, Russian
spies the whole time, right, right, But that sort of
thing is real.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But that's the couple is in on it, their colleagues,
if they're not truly in loved. Yeah, but you're a
solo act and you marry some poor dupe in the
aerospace industry and knock out a couple of kids with them,
all to serve the great Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I wonder if that's why I've got a woman pursuing
me in my life and I can't try to figure
out I've been. I've been assuming it's some sort of scam,
but it's never revealed itself as like the obvious sort
of scam. Maybe it's this, Maybe she's wanting to like
fully go through with the whole thing. Although what would
you get out of me? You wouldn't get anything out
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of me.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is Russia desperate to do better podcasts or something like that?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Inside information on the radio industry, the podcasting ancestry. Please
ask me, well, what do you want to know?
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Dr?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Is she of any particular ethnicity or claims she's from
Montenegro as an accident former Soviet Republic? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, huh, that's interesting. Anyway, spies spies everywhere. This opening
is unnecessarily irreverent, and I don't appreciate it. Hold onto
your butts because one day you might be breathing through them.
Scientists have tested out internal ventilation, a possible method of
administering oxygen with a liquid delivered through the rectum that
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is then absorbed into the intestines.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I remember did that in humans for the first time. Katie.
Joe and I have been doing a radio show together
since nineteen ninety two, so that is thirty three years, okay.
I remember one of the first air checks we ever
had was Joe said the word rectum and I said,
you can't say that word on the air, And Joe said, well,
(25:16):
what if I had two cars in rectum? Can I
say that I'm a bad driver? Two cars? I reck them?
So I think of that every time he says the
word rectum. Wow, so beautiful memory. But you used a
bunch of fancy words there. I don't want you to
bury the lead here. You're you're claiming that humans in
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the future may be able.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
To Well, no, you're not going to breathe through your
hind end, but it paves the wave.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Talking out your hind end, but you're not breathing through it.
I do that all day long.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
This technique can help patients with respiratory failure. Enteral ventilation
is meant to replace mechanical ventilators, and I'm sorry, it's
not meant to replace them, but it's a complementary oxygenation route,
the back door if you will, to provide partial oxygen
support while allowing the lungs to rest in the case
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of severe lung disease or malfunction.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You can't say backdoor. You can't. It's not even a metaphor.
I mean, it's just, you know, kind of scary. So
we regularly use the term mouth breather for an idiot,
So ass breather. Will that be a thing? No, No,
that's in delligent. He's a real ass breather. I got so.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
If future childs show that this is effective, it could
potentially help newborns and premature infants who are struggling to
establish lung function after birth. Could also aid patients with
severe respiratory failure or acute respiratory distress syndrome which I'm
not familiar with, or other situations in which temporary oxygen
supplementation is needed because you just can't deliver enough through
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the lungs.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It just like having a blowhole like a dolphin or
a whale. It's really not like that at all. It
is No, that's inaccurate. You're a blowhole.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, what she said. I can't improve on that.
Uh So anyway, it's it's could be really cool. Uh
there are piquotic species.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh boy, has anybody started manufacturing the pants that would
be required for this? Wow? Because you would need special pants.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
This is this is what it's like to work with
a fool all these damn years.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Where was I?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh, there's one more interesting. Oh so these scientists studying
this were inspired to develop this by certain aquatic species
such as loches l O. A. C. H. E. S
that I've never heard of in my life, who absorb
oxygen through their intestines to survive in low oxygen environments.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And fantastic, what do they think of next?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's it's a really an inspiring scientific story for those
who are adults.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Get their minds out of the gutter. I want somebody
a butt breather someday. He's a real last breath of
that guy. I hate to go back to this. I
haven't heard this yet. So apparently Gavin Newsom took a
whirl at explaining his hard scrabble upbringing, because all politicians
(28:31):
have to have that. You can't like be born upper
middle class and live your old ladies.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I got to.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Pull yourself up while your bootstraps or overcome some hardship
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
He's been one of the most connected people in America
since he was a teenager.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Come from somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
He tries to come off as like Abe Lincoln in
a log cabin.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I haven't heard this story yet, but we've got that.
Also have Kamala Harris sonding she might run so wow please,
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Know, this would be perfect. We got Kamala talking about running,
we got Gavin explaining his heard upbringing and the American spirit,
and I got Trump on the plane talking about a
third term just a few moments ago. Ask about by
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Speaker 7 (30:34):
To serve a third term?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You say you could run us the vice president.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is the White House for the whitest counsels or legal provision?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Yeah, you'd be allowed to do that. But I would
I would do I think it's it's too cute. Yeah,
I would do that out because it's too cute. I
think that people wouldn't like that. It's too cute. It's
not it wouldn't be right. I would love to do it,
and I have the best numbers ever. It's very terrible.
I have best ever. Say you read it. Am I
(31:05):
not ruling it out? You'll have to tell me. All
I can tell you is that we have a great
group of people, which they don't.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's Donald Trump. In case you couldn't hear. He's on
the plane. He's flying around going to all these different
countries over in Asia. You could run as vice president?
He said, yeah, I could do that, but that's a
little too cute. They're talking about the third term Trump thing,
and then they ask him like three times if he's
ruling out running again in twenty twenty eight. How do
you not get that this is him just getting you
(31:33):
to dance to his tune to make you leap? MSNBC
will have ten panels all day long about this doesn't
rule out a third term? How do you not get
that he's doing that? Have you ever had at like
a kid doing this to you in your life? Yes?
Am using a seven year old? Do you just ignore them? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
To the Rachel Meadows of the world not get it
or do they know? But their viewers it up. Your
audience likes it so much. Yeah, it's a you know,
it's a perpetual motion machine. Trump loves them. They love Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So Kamala Harris, I guess hinted enough on BBC that
she might run again. That that got people excited. This
is how that went.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Stories of your baby nieces, Amara and Leela. When are
they going to see a woman in charge in the
White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
For sure? Could it be you?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Possibly? Have you made a decision yet? No?
Speaker 11 (32:27):
I have not.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
But you say in your book I'm not done.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I am not done.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
Service, and it's in my bones and there are many
ways to serve. I've not decided yet what I will
do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I've known a lot of people in my life that
actually do dedicate their lives to public service, either as
their career or like as a hobby. You know, anybody
who's coaching Little league or being a way scout troop
guy or whatever. But you freaking politicians have become rich
and famous, sign multi gazillion dollar book deals. Don't hit
me with you. I'm in a life of service, bulls.
(33:10):
It makes me angry that you do that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That is just so Oh, I'm going to continue my
service by making a quarter million dollars a year serving
on the boards of five different corporations.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And however many twice a year, however many million dollars
she got from that book she just wrote. Anyway, she
gets confronted with the idea of her possibly running again.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experience
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookies' odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that
underestimating you.
Speaker 11 (33:55):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to poles,
the poles. I would have not run for my first
office or my second office, and I certainly wouldn't be
sitting here in this interview.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But the bookies put the odds at for bazillion to one.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's not even a real number. I've never believed the
poles are looked at them. Yeah, when you were losing
every swing state and every poles, you pretended that you
should have taken a glance. Yeah, exactly. It might be
every once in a while just worth taking a quick look. Hey,
I'm losing every swing state according to the polls. I'll
be darned anyway. So that's that. I hope she runs.
(34:36):
I'd be hilarious. Gavin Newsom is going to run and
is you know I've got a serious shot of being
the nominee. He's starting to lay out his first of
all the whole question are you going to run or not?
And acting like that's a big deal. When they finally
came and say yes, who if you're interested in that,
good for you. So Gavin Newsom over the weekend said,
yes he's gonna run or considering it, and.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes, I plan on being one of the seventeen Nobody's
on a stage early next year.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yes, exactly. And here he is laying out his hard
scrabble upbringing.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
But also you know, it was also about paying the bills, man,
And it was just like hustling and and so I
was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the
TV started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting
there with the you know, the wonderbread and five stacks
of hey, you know, like the white.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Come on.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Every day every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball,
throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is
just like fraying, man, And you're talking to yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's it, whole thing. What is he talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
There are some days we were so poor I couldn't
use new hair gel and he was used from the
day before.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What didn't he grow up a Nancy Pol's orbit somehow? Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
His family was connected to the pelosis and I think
the gettys and yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But that's once again, like I was saying earlier about
paying the bills.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Man paying the chardonnay bill, the pino noir bill, servants.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
They had to be paid. Who's going to pay the driver?
I mean, you know, right he picks up, it takes
you places, somebody's got paid, the driver, the.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Nanny, the assistant nanny. It was about paying the bills.
So I've latched onto a thing with Gavin Newsom. Now
officially he doesn't say anything. He's like you said, he's
better than Kamala Harris. It's not laughable word salads where
everybody mocks it, but he doesn't actually say anything. He
gets credit for these clips. Yeah, but he doesn't think
(36:41):
he's going somewhere, but he never says it. Then like
throws out another three quarters of a sentence that never
actually land because he never ever said where he is
on transsports thing, he never said anything about it. I
agree it's about fairness and there are concerns, yeah, fairness,
but right there to be saved there would it even claim?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't know what happened there. He used to like
bounce a ball a lot, or have a peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'd turn on the TV, you know and have and
have a sandwich and what traff macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't know. Okay, you named some fools. What missus segment?
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Since September, the US military has blown up at least
ten vessels, killing more than three dozen alleged drug smugglers,
most of them off the coast of Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
What I can say is that I've used this phrase before.
This is like cooking an egg with a blowtorch. F
thirty five's Arley Bird class destroyers. Submarines aren't normally what
we need to go after small boats of fishing boats.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
So I was really interested in sixty minutes first story
last night about Venezuela. Like when these news magazines they
take a story that's in the news and then they
give you a bigger picture, more in depth version of
it when they got more time to flesh it out.
But the amount of firepower we have around Venezuela right now.
We've got the world's biggest aircraft carrier that thank god
(01:11):
we own, headed there with another five thousand sailors on it,
in addition to the ten thousand marines that are already there,
and all kinds of warplanes and this and that, and
you know you better back off Venezuela.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I know you said we're not
going to take questions till the end. But all that
stuff to do what.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, I think I got a I definitely have a theory,
and it's beyond the theory. I think it's clearly true
coming up. But here's more from that guy who was
whatever where he was, I don't remember. He was the
former ambassador thinker just anything like that. James Story is
his name. But this is him describing the government of Venezuela.
Let's be very clear.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
This is a criminal organization masquerading as a government. This
is an individual who is under indictment from arcatast trafficking
commits him and right violations, someone who has used the
apparatus of the state to throw people in jail, to
torture them, to kill them.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, pretty miserable place to live, But there's lots of
place in miserable places to live in the world. We
don't put the world's biggest aircraft carrier off their coast,
get ten thousand marines ready to invade.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, it's Venezuela as a neighbor. I mean, sure, look
at a map. It's right across the Caribbean from US.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I looked it up last night. It's about twelve hundred
miles from Florida, which ain't that far be like how
far we are from Denver. They interviewed a bunch of
people there on the street who, like most these kind
of countries, were scared to speak openly because you don't
(02:47):
get to talk out loud. This is Senator Rick Scott
of Florida, who's the closest to Venezuela, talking about Madero
in the message he should be getting from Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Republican Senator Rick Scott of Florida says Maduro should hop
on a one way flight himself.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Actually, if I was Madu, I had to rush your
China right now because his days are numbered. Something's going
to happen, whether it's internal or external. I think something's
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The firepower that's off the coast right, this is urald Maya,
This is a lot of US forces.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Are we about to invade Venezuela? I think so.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
I mean, if we do, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He'd be surprised if we invaded Venezuela. I don't think, so,
why don't you keep checking on that and get back
to us. And it wasn't like a It wasn't an
oh hell no, of course not. What are you crazy?
Probably not landing marines on the beach of Venezuela and
(03:51):
then doing what with it? Digging it over.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, occupying it for many years at the cost of
many lives, would be very bad.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Senators got went on, what do you think we're moving?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Maduro would signal to other socialist regimes.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
And may it'll be the end of Cuba.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Cuba relies on subsidized venezuela and oil to prop up
its economy.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
America is going to take care of the Southern hemisphere
and we're going to make sure that they're freedom and democracy.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
So what's going on there that I think clearly true?
We're talking about this maybe six months ago. Mark Aupern
was writing that the big conversation that was going on
in DC, and I don't know how this isn't like
expanded out to more of an international consciousness, But everybody
(04:44):
is talking about this whole sphere of influences thing that
China was going to run their part of the world
and we're going to run our part of the world.
And that's just the way the world's going to get
divided up. And that's the way Trump sees it, and
that's where a lot of the heavy hitters see it.
And China's going to take Taiwan at some point and
they're going to control shipping in that part of the world.
And that sucks because we've had free shipping around the
(05:05):
world for a very very long time. But those days
are over. But we're going to control our part of
the world. And Venezuela, which has the largest I didn't
know this largest stockpile of oil reserves on the entire planet,
and a whole bunch of those rare earth minerals that
China has that we don't have. We are going to
start taking our part of the world, just like China's
taken their part of the world. That's that's what the
(05:28):
future is gonna hold.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well in the two things reinforce themselves too, because I mean,
if China is being a big bully there in the
South China Sea and all those incredibly important shipping lanes,
then we turn even more toward our hemisphere manufacturing for instance,
right and away from Asia you know, I could really
easily make a hawkish argument for why, at least in principle,
(05:53):
booting out the Maduro regime in Venezuela, or is the
you know, the communist regime in Cuba, Why that's completely defensible.
The very very short version of it is, even if
those are initially systems that are embraced by the populace
self determination, which we are in favor of, they become
(06:14):
utterly mobbed up kleptocracies.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Communism always does.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Socialism always does, and that's certainly the case in those
two places.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So you've got.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Powerful goons who have taken over those countries to the
detriment of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
As we are the most.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Powerful nongon on earth, why would we permit that it's
not self determination, it's kleptocracy masquerading a self determination. So
we boot them out and institute a more American friendly regime.
That's totally defensible to me. Here's the rub that's really
(06:52):
really hard to do, expensive in both blood and treasure.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, Venezuela wasn't always like this, As they pointed out
on sixty Minutes, freedom isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
The only thing in short supply in Venezuela, Hunger, chronic blackouts,
and a scarcity of essential medicines plagued the country. Today,
more than seventy percent of residents live in poverty. It
is a stunning reversal of fortune for a nation that
was once one of the wealthiest.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Countries in the world.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Venezuela's economy was crippled by disastrous socialist policies and mismanagement.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, one of the richest countries in the world became
socialist and now is seventy percent of the people that
are poor right them in The video from there was
absolutely amazing. And so here's one of the people they
interviewed on the street to what it would be like
if they if we got rid of Maduro.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Back at the market in Caracas, this woman said the
fifty dollars a week that she earns isn't enough to
feed her family and courageously answered.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This question, what do you think would.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Happen if President Medua was removed from office? Venezuela would change,
She said, we would all be free. She told us
she has plans to move to Spain in a few months.
Nearly eight million Venezuelans have fled the country in the
last decade, roughly one fifth of its population.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow, how about that. I'm just as an aside.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear sixty minutes states so unequivocally.
How a prosperous, beautiful by the way a nation was
brought to its knees by socialism?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Right, Henry Weis's effect, I don't know, maybe, and then
always people flee socialist countries to go to free countries.
Nobody's fleeing the United States other than Rosie O'Donnell and
Ellen DeGeneres to go to Venezuela or Cuba.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, only cop killers with fake African names who were
later revered on college.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Campuses go to those communist regimes. And we've been known
about this, Vin. You know, we got the World series
going on tonight with the Dodgers and the greatest announced
in Dodger history. Vincecully warned us about this a long
time ago.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Socialism failing to work as it always does this time
in Venezuela. You talk about giving everybody something free, and
all of a sudden there's no food to eat. And
who do you think is the richest person in Venezuela?
The daughter of Hugo Chamas. Hello anyway, all and.
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The problem with tariffs is that it stifles competition at home.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Here's the three one right, Yeah, and I think I
von Danni wins. He'll be the face the Democratic Party. Well,
that brings up smell oh more of that.
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I wonder if we could get implied oral consent from
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Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's tough to leave socialism and communism behind because the
working people become completely dependent on the government's handouts and
upward mobility is crushed. But you're selling the possibility when
you get back to market economies and freedom. You're selling
(11:27):
them on the possibility that they can move up. But
first you've got to wean yourself from the heroine of socialism,
and it's not easy.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
That's why I am so geeked.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm so enthused that Javier Milat in Argentina, speaking of big,
beautiful countries that ought to be prosperous, he and his
party just had a huge victory in the equivalent of
the midterms, the big legislative elections. Because there has been
some pain. He's brought inflation down from oh do I
(11:57):
have it in front of me, down two thirty two percent.
Their inflation is thirty two percent a year. Do you
know what it was two years ago?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Two hundred percent? Ours? It were our worst year's the
one ozer delivery ours It at worst was like nine
and that was for a cup of coffee and we
all went nuts. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, But the people of Venezuela who and and the
pironass they call them, it's the old communist socialists who.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And this is the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Every single time, when you concentrate power in the government
and all the business has to flow through the government,
the government and their cronies get crazy rich and control
everything to their benefit, not to the benefit of the people,
you idiots. Anyway, there was some thought that the people
would be chafing under you know, the austerity and the
tougher times, but no, they responded with a huge victory
(12:52):
to keep going down the road toward free markets. And
I'm just so happy, I can't stand it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And that's why the sixteen to nineteen broadject is inaccurate.
We'll come back with the seventh inning stretch. We do
need more of that. I know, I'd love that. I'd
listen to that telcase.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's like the Manning cast on Monday Night Football with
Elon Peyton.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
We could do a similar thing. We got more on
the waist here anyway. Ohing two yo, yo yo. How
you doing? You excited about a new week? Huh? Back
to work? Isn't it good to be back to work
and see that stuff on your desk you didn't do Friday? Ah,
that's a good shut up.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, a lot of good stuff to talk about to
squeeze in the show, more than we can get to
update from how things are going for conservatives at Harvard
not well. Any pretense that they've cleaned up their actice silly.
Both of these stories sound like they're presented for prurient reasons.
Neither one of them are. They're actually quite interesting coming
up in a moment. Breathing through our butts has been
(13:53):
declared safe after the first human trial. I'm not laughing,
I'm coughing a little both. There was a human trial, Yes, yes,
can I like if I squeeze really hard. Can I
breathe through my You try hard enough? That's right, everybody
try no. I'll explain a minute or two. I found
(14:15):
this really interesting. I'm aware of expaling that way. A
lot of people do that and they shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This is from the Times of London. Female spies are
waging sex warfare to steal Silicon Valley secrets. China and
Russia are both sending attractive women to seduce tech workers,
even marrying and having children with their targets in a
desperate attempt to get ahead and stay ahead tech and AI.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You're not a sex worker. If you actually marry them
and have children, you're a I don't know what you are.
Your spy?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, oh yeah. Nobody's calling them sex workers. They're they're spies.
Chinese Russian operatives are using sex warfare to seduce and
spy on Silic Valley professionals. James Mulvanan, the chief intelligence
officer of amer Consulting, which provides risk assessments for American
(15:09):
companies investing in China, said he was one of the
many men recently targeted by forness seductresses hoping to gain
access to US secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I'm getting an enormous number of very sophisticated LinkedIn requests
from the same type of attractive young Chinese women.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
It seems to have really ramped up recently.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He described at how at a business conference on Chinese
investment risks hosted in Virginia last week, two attractive Chinese
women showed up and attempted to gain entry. We didn't
let them in, but they had all the information about
the event and everything else. He said, it's a phenomenon.
And I will tell you it's really weird.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That is a heck of a commitment to your country
that you're going to meet a guy, woo him, marry him,
have kids with him. I mean, that's really caring about
your Wow. Wow, or you're well, you're in the spy service.
It's I've read various autobiographies of both men and women
(16:12):
who are in the KGB and how you get recruited
young and your train and that the all day, every
day of raising a kid. If you've done it, it's
a lot of work. It's your whole life. You're doing
all that as part of your being a spy. Wow. Right,
let's see.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Uh oh, here's the interesting part. And I've been trying
to tell you this for a long time. Both Russia
and the CCP are using ordinary citizens, investors, cryptoanalysts, businessmen,
academics to target their American counterparts rather than trained agents,
which makes the esponars harder to spot.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
We're not chasing a KGB agent in a smoky guest
house in Germany anymore, said one senior US counter intelligence official.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Our adversaries, particularly the Chinese, are using a whole of
society approach to exploit all aspects of our technology and
Western talent.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Can you imagine you find out your wife and mother
of your two kids, you've been married for ten years,
only did it to spy for the Communists? Yeah? I know, Boy,
would that be rock your world shattering? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I want to get to the breathing through your butt
thing in a bit, but you don't have time because
I want to wrap this up. Yeah. Anyway, what was
I going to say? Oh, I've been trying. Not with
that attitude, you can't. I've told this story many times,
but it's worth retelling it. It was about a decade
ago that the FBI went to a particular large California
(17:38):
university and their counterintelligence folks warned the president of the university,
you have a lot of Chinese agents on your campus
masquerading as researchers.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And they were told, quote, get off my campus, you racists.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
There are thousands, tens of thousands Chinese nationals in the
United States right now doing the work of the Communist Party,
spending all day, every day doing the work of the
Communist Party.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I stand by those words. So you claim humans can
breathe through their anis pretty much yeah, And you're gonna
explain that coming up.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yes, stay with us Armstrong and Getty after the twenty
twenty six midterms.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
You're going to give it serious thought. Yeah, I'd be lying.
Otherwise I'd just be lying, And I can't do that.
Speaker 8 (18:23):
Governor, you have long said that if you ever run
for the White House you need a compelling why.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
A reason.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
Are you moving closer to figuring out your own why
and your own decision?
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Yeah, And he's just said if you compelling why, you
can endure anyhow.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And so I don't think. I think the biggest challenge.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
For anyone who runs for any office is people see
right through you.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
If you don't have that why. He's got a little
bit of the Kamala Harris problem. I've noticed that he
never answers questions, and even when he tries, it's mystifying
what he's trying to say. Sometimes, right, he's not quite
the no, No, he's not word salad shooter. It's not mockable,
but he doesn't. Maybe maybe it's on purpose, maybe it's
(19:05):
a skill, and maybe that'll help him. But you know
the famous clip about the trans athlete thing. He never
said anything right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
He hints at things yeah and hopes he'll nod your
head yeah, and assume that he agrees with you. Here's
here's the why. Here's how you answer that question, why
you're running for president? Having ruined California. The only way
to cover up my miserable record is to ruin the
other forty nine states, so California doesn't stand out anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Well, we'll have more than enough time to talk about
the next presidential election. I'll tell you that. I just
was telling Hanson in the hallway. I said, I don't
know if I got another presidential election in me, so
I'm in no hurry to get to that came across this.
Mark Alpern tweeted this out in his newsletter today, he said,
I do this. I tweet this out every couple months.
(19:58):
Is a public service. Thing is interesting is hearing someone's
air travel nightmare story. Is hearing their customer service nightmare story.
They're both approximately equally compelling. He's being sarcastic, of course,
said I tweet this out every couple months as a
public service, and we all should know. I think that's
an interesting phenomenon. But we all should be aware of them.
(20:19):
The things that are really interesting in your own life
when that happen, that are of no interest in anyone
else in the retelling. We should all have a list
of those things so that we would be handy. So
do we all embarrass ourselves or bore other people. But
it's pretty sounds pretty true though somebody else's travel nightmare
(20:41):
story or customer service nightmare story is not usually that good.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Unless you are a master storyteller right and inflect it
with you know, humor and irony and that sort of no,
just in the mirror, no, no, don't bother. It's like
Buddy mine years ago, he showed up to play golf
with hat that says nobody cares how you played.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's true, that might be a good one. How your
golf round went, unless you're really talking with someone else's
for some reason highly wants to know the specific Some
raptors steals your ball and flies away. I mean that's
interest instance. Yeah right, yeah, get your foot bit off
by an alligator, that'd be a story.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, pretty good. Made a couple of birdies. That's plenty
long enough anyway. Having said that, back to the spying,
particularly on Silicon Valley stuff, and how both Russia and
the Communist Chinese are using ordinary citizens rather than professional spies,
which makes them harder to spot in all sorts of assignments.
(21:42):
And there's all sorts of figures for how much it
costs the US and theft, and all sorts of cases
of people being arrested having stolen documents from their job
at Tesla, for instance.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
But listen to this, would you.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
One former counterintelligence official who now helps Silicon Valley founders
divest their foreign investments, said he recently investigated the case
of one beautiful Russian woman who worked at an aerospace
company and married an American colleague. He discovered that she
had gone to a modeling academy in her twenties, but
later attended a Russian soft power school before disappearing for
(22:16):
a decade and re emerging in the US as a
crypto currency expert. But she doesn't stay in crypto, the
ex official said. She's trying to get to the heights
of the military space innovation community. The husband's totally oblivious
showing up, marrying a target, having kids with the target,
and conducting a lifelong collection operation. It's uncomfortable to think about,
(22:37):
but it's so prevalent, he said. If I wanted to
be out of the shadows, I'd write a book on it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
And I would read that book. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah,
I'd say, man, you're you're right.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I mean, I get like, I'm such a fan of
the Americans and the fabulous Kerrie Russell's no series The Diplomat,
But you know, the deep undercover Russian cups that moved
the illegals they called them, who moved here. Very American,
I spoke, unexcitedli like the if you're a Marvel movie fan,
like the Black Widow's.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Parents, that's the whole thing. They are here from Russia,
My godness, really, fake fake marriage, relationship, raising kids, Russian
spies the whole time, right, right, But that sort of
thing is real.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
But that's the couple is in on it, their colleagues,
if they're not truly in loved. Yeah, but you're a
solo act and you marry some poor dupe in the
aerospace industry and knock out a couple of kids with them,
all to serve the great Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I wonder if that's why I've got a woman pursuing
me in my life and I can't try to figure
out I've been. I've been assuming it's some sort of scam,
but it's never revealed itself as like the obvious sort
of scam. Maybe it's this, Maybe she's wanting to like
fully go through with the whole thing. Although what would
you get out of me? You wouldn't get anything out
(23:57):
of me.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Is Russia desperate to do better podcasts or something like that?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Inside information on the radio industry, the podcasting ancestry. Please
ask me, well, what do you want to know?
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Dr?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Is she of any particular ethnicity or claims she's from
Montenegro as an accident former Soviet Republic? Right?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, huh, that's interesting. Anyway, spies spies everywhere. This opening
is unnecessarily irreverent, and I don't appreciate it. Hold onto
your butts because one day you might be breathing through them.
Scientists have tested out internal ventilation, a possible method of
administering oxygen with a liquid delivered through the rectum that
(24:50):
is then absorbed into the intestines.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I remember did that in humans for the first time. Katie.
Joe and I have been doing a radio show together
since nineteen ninety two, so that is thirty three years, okay.
I remember one of the first air checks we ever
had was Joe said the word rectum and I said,
you can't say that word on the air, And Joe said, well,
(25:16):
what if I had two cars in rectum? Can I
say that I'm a bad driver? Two cars? I reck them?
So I think of that every time he says the
word rectum. Wow, so beautiful memory. But you used a
bunch of fancy words there. I don't want you to
bury the lead here. You're you're claiming that humans in
(25:36):
the future may be able.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
To Well, no, you're not going to breathe through your
hind end, but it paves the wave.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Talking out your hind end, but you're not breathing through it.
I do that all day long.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
This technique can help patients with respiratory failure. Enteral ventilation
is meant to replace mechanical ventilators, and I'm sorry, it's
not meant to replace them, but it's a complementary oxygenation route,
the back door if you will, to provide partial oxygen
support while allowing the lungs to rest in the case
(26:11):
of severe lung disease or malfunction.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You can't say backdoor. You can't. It's not even a metaphor.
I mean, it's just, you know, kind of scary. So
we regularly use the term mouth breather for an idiot,
So ass breather. Will that be a thing? No, No,
that's in delligent. He's a real ass breather. I got so.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
If future childs show that this is effective, it could
potentially help newborns and premature infants who are struggling to
establish lung function after birth. Could also aid patients with
severe respiratory failure or acute respiratory distress syndrome which I'm
not familiar with, or other situations in which temporary oxygen
supplementation is needed because you just can't deliver enough through
(26:55):
the lungs.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
It just like having a blowhole like a dolphin or
a whale. It's really not like that at all. It
is No, that's inaccurate. You're a blowhole.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah yeah, yeah, what she said. I can't improve on that.
Uh So anyway, it's it's could be really cool. Uh
there are piquotic species.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh boy, has anybody started manufacturing the pants that would
be required for this? Wow? Because you would need special pants.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
This is this is what it's like to work with
a fool all these damn years.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Where was I?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Oh, there's one more interesting. Oh so these scientists studying
this were inspired to develop this by certain aquatic species
such as loches l O. A. C. H. E. S
that I've never heard of in my life, who absorb
oxygen through their intestines to survive in low oxygen environments.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
And fantastic, what do they think of next?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's it's a really an inspiring scientific story for those
who are adults.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Get their minds out of the gutter. I want somebody
a butt breather someday. He's a real last breath of
that guy. I hate to go back to this. I
haven't heard this yet. So apparently Gavin Newsom took a
whirl at explaining his hard scrabble upbringing, because all politicians
(28:31):
have to have that. You can't like be born upper
middle class and live your old ladies.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I got to.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Pull yourself up while your bootstraps or overcome some hardship
or something like that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
He's been one of the most connected people in America
since he was a teenager.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Come from somebody.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
He tries to come off as like Abe Lincoln in
a log cabin.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I haven't heard this story yet, but we've got that.
Also have Kamala Harris sonding she might run so wow please,
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Know, this would be perfect. We got Kamala talking about running,
we got Gavin explaining his heard upbringing and the American spirit,
and I got Trump on the plane talking about a
third term just a few moments ago. Ask about by
the eight ad so all that on the way, stay
here are strong one theoriod on how you might try.
Speaker 7 (30:34):
To serve a third term?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
You say you could run us the vice president.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is the White House for the whitest counsels or legal provision?
Speaker 10 (30:44):
Yeah, you'd be allowed to do that. But I would
I would do I think it's it's too cute. Yeah,
I would do that out because it's too cute. I
think that people wouldn't like that. It's too cute. It's
not it wouldn't be right. I would love to do it,
and I have the best numbers ever. It's very terrible.
I have best ever. Say you read it. Am I
(31:05):
not ruling it out? You'll have to tell me. All
I can tell you is that we have a great
group of people, which they don't.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's Donald Trump. In case you couldn't hear. He's on
the plane. He's flying around going to all these different
countries over in Asia. You could run as vice president?
He said, yeah, I could do that, but that's a
little too cute. They're talking about the third term Trump thing,
and then they ask him like three times if he's
ruling out running again in twenty twenty eight. How do
you not get that this is him just getting you
(31:33):
to dance to his tune to make you leap? MSNBC
will have ten panels all day long about this doesn't
rule out a third term? How do you not get
that he's doing that? Have you ever had at like
a kid doing this to you in your life? Yes?
Am using a seven year old? Do you just ignore them? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
To the Rachel Meadows of the world not get it
or do they know? But their viewers it up. Your
audience likes it so much. Yeah, it's a you know,
it's a perpetual motion machine. Trump loves them. They love Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
So Kamala Harris, I guess hinted enough on BBC that
she might run again. That that got people excited. This
is how that went.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Stories of your baby nieces, Amara and Leela. When are
they going to see a woman in charge in the
White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
For sure? Could it be you?
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Possibly? Have you made a decision yet? No?
Speaker 11 (32:27):
I have not.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
But you say in your book I'm not done.
Speaker 11 (32:31):
That is correct.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I am not done.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
I have lived my entire career a life of.
Speaker 12 (32:37):
Service, and it's in my bones and there are many
ways to serve. I've not decided yet what I will
do in the future beyond what I am doing right now.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I've known a lot of people in my life that
actually do dedicate their lives to public service, either as
their career or like as a hobby. You know, anybody
who's coaching Little league or being a way scout troop
guy or whatever. But you freaking politicians have become rich
and famous, sign multi gazillion dollar book deals. Don't hit
me with you. I'm in a life of service, bulls.
(33:10):
It makes me angry that you do that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
That is just so Oh, I'm going to continue my
service by making a quarter million dollars a year serving
on the boards of five different corporations.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
And however many twice a year, however many million dollars
she got from that book she just wrote. Anyway, she
gets confronted with the idea of her possibly running again.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
But you've been very clear that it's a possibility you
might run again to become president. And in my experience
interviewing politicians, when someone says I'm not done, it means
they are thinking seriously about running. But when you look
at the bookies' odds, they put you as an outsider,
even behind Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I mean, is that
underestimating you.
Speaker 11 (33:55):
I think there are all kinds of polls that will
tell you a variety of things. I've never listened to poles,
the poles. I would have not run for my first
office or my second office, and I certainly wouldn't be
sitting here in this interview.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
But the bookies put the odds at for bazillion to one.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's not even a real number. I've never believed the
poles are looked at them. Yeah, when you were losing
every swing state and every poles, you pretended that you
should have taken a glance. Yeah, exactly. It might be
every once in a while just worth taking a quick look. Hey,
I'm losing every swing state according to the polls. I'll
be darned anyway. So that's that. I hope she runs.
(34:36):
I'd be hilarious. Gavin Newsom is going to run and
is you know I've got a serious shot of being
the nominee. He's starting to lay out his first of
all the whole question are you going to run or not?
And acting like that's a big deal. When they finally
came and say yes, who if you're interested in that,
good for you. So Gavin Newsom over the weekend said,
yes he's gonna run or considering it, and.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes, I plan on being one of the seventeen Nobody's
on a stage early next year.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yes, exactly. And here he is laying out his hard
scrabble upbringing.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
But also you know, it was also about paying the bills, man,
And it was just like hustling and and so I
was out there kind of raising myself, turning on the
TV started, you know, just getting obsessed, you know, sitting
there with the you know, the wonderbread and five stacks
of hey, you know, like the white.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Come on.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
Every day every day in the backyard, just bouncing the basketball,
throwing the ball against the wall until the ball is
just like fraying, man, And you're talking to yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
That's it, whole thing. What is he talking about?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
There are some days we were so poor I couldn't
use new hair gel and he was used from the
day before.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
What didn't he grow up a Nancy Pol's orbit somehow? Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
His family was connected to the pelosis and I think
the gettys and yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But that's once again, like I was saying earlier about
paying the bills.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Man paying the chardonnay bill, the pino noir bill, servants.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
They had to be paid. Who's going to pay the driver?
I mean, you know, right he picks up, it takes
you places, somebody's got paid, the driver, the.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Nanny, the assistant nanny. It was about paying the bills.
So I've latched onto a thing with Gavin Newsom. Now
officially he doesn't say anything. He's like you said, he's
better than Kamala Harris. It's not laughable word salads where
everybody mocks it, but he doesn't actually say anything. He
gets credit for these clips. Yeah, but he doesn't think
(36:41):
he's going somewhere, but he never says it. Then like
throws out another three quarters of a sentence that never
actually land because he never ever said where he is
on transsports thing, he never said anything about it. I
agree it's about fairness and there are concerns, yeah, fairness,
but right there to be saved there would it even claim?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't know what happened there. He used to like
bounce a ball a lot, or have a peanut butter.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I'd turn on the TV, you know and have and
have a sandwich and what traff macaroni and cheese.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I don't know. Okay, you named some fools. What missus segment?
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