August 25, 2025 • 37 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- CBS Political Analyst Chad Dietrich talks to Jack Armstrong
- Jack yells at a little old man
- Rep Kevin Kiley talks redistricting with Jack Armstrong
- Bingo, Bango, Bongo
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty, arm Strong and
Jet and Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And in this nationwide war over redistricting, we've seen the
two biggest states go first, the biggest red state, Texas.
You mentioned those five additional seats red. Yeah, and there's
not a lot of blue. They're squeezing that big time. Now,
what we're seeing the opposite in California, where the Democrats
under Gavin Newsom are putting a map on the ballot
for voters this fall that could get them those five
(00:44):
seats back. So that would make sure only four Republican
seats forty eight for the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So we're standing up. This is not about parties. It's
not about you know, redistricting lines. It's about holding the line.
It's about protecting all of us, regardless of political party.
It's about power at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is it okay? So the math on that there are
fifty two congressional seats in California. If Gavin gets his way,
four of those will be Republican. So even though about
thirty eight percent of Californian's voted Republican last time around,
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they would only have seven percent of the seats. So
nearly forty percent of the people who vote in California
vote Republican, but only seven percent of the representation in
the House. Well that sounds fair. Whatever. We welcome back
to the Armstrong and get his show. Our old friend
Gary Dietrie. How are you, Gary, Hey, Jack, good to
(01:49):
be with you.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And one thing we now for sure, this scientific study
has come out Joe Jack. There's been now more citations
of redistricting in the last three days than in all
of human history.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think, no, getting not a hot topic, usually says here.
You are a CBS News political analyst. Now, congratulations, Well, thank.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You, my friend. Yeah, you know, I've been based in
the state capitol, California for some time. But you know,
as things continue to grow and all the rest of
the good stuff, you know, and I think they guess
that make sense to them. I'm now doing national TV
and radio for CBS as well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's awesome. Of course. The reason we have you on
today is to talk about the backlash against the cracker
barrel remodel has everybody very angry.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You know, I got to tell you that's so funny
you mentioned this, Jack, I was thinking over the weekend.
I have never in my lifetime seen a car brand
flip politically in six months, right, a bed, a beer
brand flip politically in thirty days, and a beloved pancake
house and I don't know, fried chicken whatever you know
do the same thing in about two hours.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's undbelievable, it really is. That's a very good point.
We'll have to discuss that later. You got to really
watch your uh your pr currently is a big company.
But anyway, we're going to talk to you about redistricting,
among other things. First of all, what's the likelihood that
this passes? Have you seen any polling on this in California?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, in California. Here's the problem for Democrats that when
the polling was done a couple of weeks ago, just
on the concept would you like the Independent Citizens Commission
or do you want it to go the power to
go back to the legislature, Jack, This is quite remarkable
to me. Actually two thirds of voters said, now, don't
We don't want to go back to the legislature's control.
We wanted to stay in the hands and that, by
the way, wasn't just led by Republicans and a large
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percentage almost twenty five percent independency in California, but a
vast majority, almost sixty percent of Democrats said that. So
that's a big headwind. Now when you start talking about
this measure in specifics, people are just beginning to get
pulled on it. But right now, the most recent numbers
I saw, Jack had about forty eight percent in support
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of it. There's a general rule of thumb in California
about propositions. If you don't start your campaign, it's over
fifty percent of his support. You've got a big, big
road to hope.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh interesting, Well that that is uh, that's good to
know going forward with this. Not to READO. We just
had Congressman Tom McClintock on and he kind of went
through the history of jerry mandering, although he is the
correct pronunciation of Gary mandering.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
But yeah, I want you to know I had nothing
to do with that, though it's a different spelling Gary
than me his that's ge r r wise, So I
did not have anything to do with the start of
Gary mandarin.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I want you guys to know, gotcha. But so we
won't go through the history of that again. But like
people have been jerry mandering since the country started, there's
lots of blue states that are all jerry mandered the
heck as we all know. And now it's just But
isn't Gavin's main goal if this gets shot down? Doesn't
he want just to be the face of the resistance.
Isn't that his main goal?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well? You know, you know, I never tried to get
inside a politician's head. But if you look at the
sort of factual evidence of that in the last twelve
to eighteen months, Jack, you know very well. I mean
he's been in red states all over the country, raised
ten million dollars in a pack to do that, took
up billboards in Florida and Texas, famously debated the governor
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of Florida on the Sean Hannity Show of all things.
I mean, he is you know, had their own podcast,
you know, the story with Bannon on it and Charlie Kirk.
I mean, he's been he's been auditioning for the White
House here officially unofficially for last year plus.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
How do you like his chances?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Oh in twenty eight? Yeah, Well, well here's the deal.
We have some recent numbers on that this is really interesting.
In California, his own home state, he has now surged
a head of Kamala Harris as California Democrats twenty eight
choice hod.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But CALLI Kamala Harris. I can't believe anybody's even talking
about her. Still good lord, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm just telling you the numbers, okay, And Califia, California Democrats,
California Democrats had her in the lead as their choice
and then just in the last thirty days Gavin surgery tohead. Now, nationally,
there hasn't been a lot of good national polling on
this in the last couple weeks. But what's interesting, Jack,
is the movement on the so called odds. Okay, Now,
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why are odds? Why would people care about that over polling?
Because odds take in and these are being watched by
the way, very carefully and reliably by many political sources
in the US these days. Why because polling is one measurement,
right if there's snapshot in time, it takes time to
get a poll out in the field and then you
get it back. Odds take into account other things. What
(06:32):
a recent news cycles there, et cetera, et cetera. What
is fundraising look like, and Gavin Newsom has moved into
the lead nationally in the odds for the twenty eight
race of the Democratic nomination.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, that's interesting, and that was his goal. He wants
to be as close to as a presumptive as he
can possibly get heading into the whole thing, obviously, And again,
the Democratic Party doesn't have a face, They don't have
a person that is like the go to resistance to
Trump and everything Trump and everything that's evil and Republican.
And he wants to be that he and he's making
(07:05):
some pretty good progress on that. But so are you
still now you're working for CBS? How long we've been
doing this together? Gary? Twenty years, twenty five years?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Okay, let me let me remind you. I'll ask you
the question, Karris. Somebody asked me this was the weekend
about you guys? When did you start your local show?
And Sacrament of Us now ballooned into a galactic, you know,
superstar radio program. Well, when did you guys start?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Michael's usually on top of this. So our anniversary is
like in a week couple of days actually, and that
will be twenty eight years, twenty seven years, something like
twenty seven, twenty seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh my gosh, Now you're making me feel really old.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know why that are really old? And so am I.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Oh geez, come on, man, I I started with you
guys the first year you were on air locally in
the state capitol of Calipa.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Lord, we've been talking to each other for almost three decades.
What are we doing the job?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Okay, that's the end of that forgets.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's do something else with our lives. Okay. So anyway,
but since you're on right now for the last time,
so you've always been staunchly non partisan. That's always been
your thing, and I love that. That's one of the
reasons we always liked having you on. You're really into
just trying to relay the facts. I assume you're still
doing that for CBS. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That is a great question because people say, because remember,
this really blows people's minds. Prior to my contract with
CBS were started in what twenty eighteen or something, so
that was what seven years ago. I was with our
local Fox affiliate, Fox forty and Zacha Meto. So you know,
people say, did you flip loyalties? No, I've always been
the same, Gary Detrich, you know how it is, Jack
just like you said, I call them like I see him.
(08:42):
I feel like that's very, very important role. That's why
they have me on. Nobody scripts me, nobody tells me
what bent to take. I guarantee you that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, so this is an opinion question. So I don't
know how you want to handle that. But I, Joe
and I take in a lot of national media and
podcast all that sort of stuff. Of course we do
for our line work. I feel like people pundits in
the rest of the country have a way higher opinion
of Gavin Newsom's talents than people who have known him
(09:12):
longer in California. Well, first of all, would you agree
with that about Well, I do think.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That that is how should we call it a bias
that happens with Jack? Literally almost every governor, right, almost
every governor this happened. You could and Republicans and Democrats.
You can go down the list. You go way back
to Mike Ducaccus in Massachusetts and the Massachusetts Miracle. And
when I went to you know, I won't mention the
name of the school because you guys like to make
(09:39):
fun of my grad school.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
On the Gary went to Harvard. He went to Harvard?
Is the John F. Kennedy School of Government. We all know,
glad we mentioned that telling you this for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Go ahead, Gary, Okay, I'm hoping people forget. The reason
I mentioned that is because when I was in that,
when I was in Massachusetts, people would say, what is
this fascination with our governor outside of our state? There's
this wrong, this wrong that happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I don't remember, you know, Rick Perry coming out
of Texas or whoever it is. They the local people
often say, I don't know if he's as good as
you think he is. But then sometimes you get a
Clinton or a Bush who perform, you know, at that
high level. But so, where do you think Gavin Newsom
is currently as a political athlete, Well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I certainly think that. You know, you're onto the trend
line right now, which is the Democratic base has been
desperately seeking a true in their words, fighter, quote unquote.
They want somebody to take on, as they call him,
quote unquote, the bully in the White House, and Gavin
has stilled that role. Now, interestingly, there's been a huge transformation,
as you know, Jack, in the last eight months, because
(10:44):
when the President showed up on the tarmac of La
International Airport right after the fires down south. You know,
Gavin wanted to make nice and he needs forty billion dollars,
they say, to rebuild La et cetera, et cetera. But
things terms now are quickly, as you know, they've gone
from bad to worse. And I think Gavin is essentially
given up on trying to woot Trump in the White
House and now it's full on. I'm going to be
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the face of the opposition.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't blame him, but man, these early projections Trump
has only been president for what nine months? In the
talk about twenty eight that is out there, Hillary Clinton
seemed like a lock for the nomination in two thousand
and eight. I remember when Rudy Giuliani seemed like who
could possibly beat him? You know, we've seen this so
many times. There's lots of names that I've never even
heard of. You've net, You've probably heard of them, but
(11:32):
that I've never even heard of that could emerge in
the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Correct, Oh yeah, I mean, look, a month is a
long time in politics. I mean, nobody's even talking about it.
Redissing special election on November fourth in California thirty days ago.
Now it's a reality.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Good point.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So the point is, Jack, we have a long long
ways to go. But if you look at the national
odds maker Slats polling right now just for who's going
to win twenty eight, and this is so far out
as ridiculous, but JD. Vance is the lead, followed about
ten points behind, maybe more than that, twelve points by
now Gavin Newsom and then the list goes down from there,
(12:07):
so still Vance, and of course he's no lock for
his own nominations. Then we're a long ways away from
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Although Elon's saying he might throw one hundred to two
hundred million dollars behind in vance is certainly a big deal.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well, you know what, he's got those kind of checks.
He could decide he wants tomorrow to put in fifty
cents and the next week could might be five hundred million. Yeah,
but you know that proved, as you know, to be
significant last time around. I mean the battle for twenty
eight that it's going to make it really interesting, Jack,
is that it's wide open. There won't be an incumbent
on either side, and yes you have a sitting vice president,
but that's a real mixed bag of results for sitting
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vice presidents over the years.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Gary Dietrich's CBS News political analyst, let's do it for
thirty more years, Gary.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, how about it we sell with thirty days.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And go from there.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
All right, and talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Okay, buddy?
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man I wanted to push into the sea at my
sailing lesson next I even yelled at him. I yelled
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at a guy, I yelled at an old man, and
even a small o. I yelled at a small old
man on my sailboat in my sailing lessons yesterday, and
he deserved it, among other things. O the way, stay tuned.
So I take this beginner's sailing class at this little
local lake next to me, and it's two days, two
(14:20):
hours each day, and you get a certificate. That's not
a lot of sailing. I'll begin with the fact that
I'm terrible at it. I don't know if I have
the ability to ever get any good at it, or
if I'll ever even try it again. But it was fun,
but it's way way more complicated than I thought it was.
And there's five adults in the class. On the first day,
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there's only five of us in the instructor. I'm the
youngest one there, and right away I had pegged this
one dude who appeared to be about eight thousand years
old as as a bit of a note at all.
I live in a university town, and one thing I've
learned living in a university town is people who have
a really high education. I think this guy at a PhD.
(15:01):
People with PhDs think they know everything about everything. That
has just been my experience. Because you have a tremendous
amount of knowledge about a tiny subject that you got
your PhD in, you think you know everything about everything.
This guy apparently had sailed before or something. I don't know,
this one eight thousand year old man who was in
my class and beginner's class. But why are you in
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the beginner's sailing class if you're okay? So when the
instructor was trying to teach us stuff before even got
on the boats, he's got the big chart up and
everything like that, and he's shown his parts of the boat.
The instructor would be showing you and you know, here's
and here's the halliard, and you do and the and
the the the old genius would have to shout out,
and that's what you're gonna want to watch the JYM
(15:43):
main line or throughout some terminal terminology, and the instructor
would say, yeah, we'll get to that in a second.
But he had just had to let the whole class
know that he knew some of the terms already. Okay,
so he's not on my boat. The first day we
just we have two boats. He's not on my boat.
I told some various people about this old man, know
it all, who's in my Classho was kind of an
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annoying I was just trying to stay away from him.
Day two, only two of us return for the class.
Only two of us, and it's me and the old
man are the only two. Course it is, of course
it is. And the instructor makes it clear that we're
going out on the boat alone, just me and the
old man. The instructor will be on a motor boat
kind of near us, shouting out instructions. And I thought, okay,
(16:26):
this is going to be a growth opportunity for me too.
I already got like kind of a beef against this
guy and uh a growth opportunity to just you know,
accept them for who he is or whatever. So we
get out on the water and he keeps telling me
what to do. He can't stop telling me what to
do with everything you need to a little further left
love for the pull that in. That's two loosens to type.
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And the problem was the actual instructor, who has years
of experience of actual sailing, is telling me what to do.
But the old man doesn't know because his hearing's shot,
so he has no idea that the instructor is telling
me what to do. And at some point I was
getting so frustrated trying to hear the instructor tell me
what to do because I almost flipped the boat. Once
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you make a mistaken you can end up. You can
end up in the water really easy. I'm trying to
listen to the extructor while the old man is in
my other ear telling me what to do. At one point,
I said, sir, I'm trying to listen to the instructor
right now. Why God him, why gout heroy thing you saying?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I mean, it was just exactly like that, And there
went Jack's growth exercise.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh, my god.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, and it got it only got worse from there.
I just I could not and I had to several
times a day. I'm trying to listen to the instructor, Sir.
I don't know what. I don't know why the serg
came out of my mouth like that. I'm not exactly
sure I'd have some form of respect. You were still
shocking was I was trying to have respect for an
eight thousand year old man telling me what to do.
I'm still with Michael. You should have just donkey kicked
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him right off there. I could have so easily just
stood up hip checked him a tiny bit and he'd
have been in the sea. But I have more of
that story I have to get to later. Oh. I
was so annoying and so hot, and there's so much stress,
recessful enough if find have been with somebody I liked
alone with this guy. Oh my god, we got more
(18:11):
on the way. I hope you can stay with us
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Speaker 4 (18:17):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
As you all know, Chicago's a killing fields right now,
and they don't acknowledge it, and they say, we.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Don't need them.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Freedom.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Freedom. He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of
people are saying, maybe we like a dictator. I don't
like a dictator. I'm not a dictator. I'm a man
with great common sense and I'm a smart person. And
when I see what's happening to our cities and then
you send in troops, instead of being praised, they're saying,
you're trying to take over the republic.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
These people are sick. The other thing, the old man
in the sea, the old man on my boat when
we took our break from sailing, he's telling me all
the things he does like about Trump. It's one of
my favorite things as far as the personality goes. Just
lay into me with your political opinions. Anyway, that's Trump
just a few moments ago saying a lot of people
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like a dictator, which, of course we'll get headlines all
day long. But that was on the topic of sending
National Guard troops into cities, among things we might talk
about with Kevin Kylie, who joined us now in the
Armstrong and Getty Show. He's a California a congress person
in our House of Representatives representing the third district of
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California will actually be Jerry manderd out if Gavin Newsom
gets his way. How are you this morning, Kevin Kylie
doing wow?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Hey, Before we get to the whole redistricting thing, which
would eliminate your position, what are your thoughts on sending
National Guard troops into various US cities You four that
are against it?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Well, I think certainly in DC we've seen the adults right,
We've got a significant improvement in public safety last week,
more than a week, and DC has had out of
control crime for a long time, and it's no one
deserves to live in those conditions. But especially embarrassing for
our country when we have people coming from around the
world and they see our capital city has wawlessness, has
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rampant homelessness. As you know, you go to it's like
sacrament our places in California go to CBS and they
have the shampoo and conditioner right under lock and key.
So I think that there's a lot of people who
are like, finally someone actually cares that our cities are
unsafe for folks to live in, and hopefully this will
catalyze a renewed interest in public safety across the country.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, of course though, the big difference being there is
a constitutional way that the president can can take over
problems in Washington, d C. That he does not have
for Chicago and some of the other cities he's thrown out.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Well, you know, interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom himself deployed the
National Guard to San Francisco. I think last year might
have been a year before saying the open air drug
markets are out of control. We need the guard there
in order to help our law enforcement. I'm Brandon news who,
of course did it in a halfway token start of way,
so it didn't really make an impact. But you would
hope that the president would have willing partners in mayors
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and governors across the country to ask, Okay, where do
you need help? How can we cooperate to actually protect
your citizens.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, everything Gavin Newsom does is We've talked about a lot,
you have to run through the filter of he's trying
to run for president. That's his main goal. So almost
everything he does is how is this going to look nationally?
Me trying to get the nomination and run for president,
as opposed to what's going to be good for any
various California town. So am I right that if Gavin
gets his way on the whole jerrymandering California, it'll eliminate
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your seat.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That's certainly his goal, but it was also his goal
to defeat me last year under the current district client.
He had his own staff member who came and ran
against me, and I ended up winning by forty six
thousand votes. So even though he's tried as hard as
he possibly can to jerrymander my district, it looks like
an elephant. Ironically, the trunk sort of extends into the
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Sacramento area to collect the sort of voters that he wants.
I still think one way or another, we will beat
him again, but ultimately we need to make sure that
the redistricting sham does not go through. It is one
of the worst things that could happen to democracy and
representative governments in our state, and it's an attempt, It
is an explicit attempt to overturn the will of voters
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below up our state constitution and deprive many people of
their representatives.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I was reading something I think it was in the
Washington Post over the weekend, This idea of making the
country look like a checkerboard where everything is equal sized square,
you know, just draw the lines and whoever lives in
it lives in it and make it that way. Do
you have any fixes for this? Because jerry mandrig has
been going on since beginning of the country, there doesn't
(22:46):
seem to be any way to stop it from happening.
Voters hate it. Do you have any ideas? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
In fact, there was an attempt in the early years
of the Republic seventeen I think ninety seven around then
to jerrymander James Madison out of his seek in Congress.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Of course, the term comes from eighteen twelve when the
Elridge Jerry, the governor of Massachusetts real district in the
shape of a salamander. So jerry Mander. But you're right,
it is not a good thing for our country, whichever
party does. To be honest with you, it's bad for
representative government. It disempowers voters and empowers politicians. So I
suppose is number one. We shouldn't be redrawing lines in
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the middle of the decade, like Gavin Newsom's trying to do.
I've introduced a bill to that effect in the House
that I'm trying to get passed as quickly as possible,
and then ultimately, come the time of the next census
when you're actually supposed to be doing redistricting. I want
to see a fix to make elections fairer in our country.
So I think that consists of two things that we
could reach a deal on. Number one, let's get rid
of jerrymandering once and for all in all fifty states.
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And number two, let's establish voter ID once and for
all in all fifty states. I think that if we
can do those two things, then we'll have a lot
fairer elections in this country and our representative government will
work a lot better.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So I forget what the numbers were heard the other day.
I think it was about Massachusetts, where they don't have
a single Republican in the House, but they get a
pretty decent percentage of the vote every single time around.
If Gavin gets his way. In California, Republicans in the
last election made up about thirty eight percent of the votes. Stang,
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they're forty percent of the votes, but would have seven
percent of the representation in the House. Obviously, that's not good,
and I would say the same thing if it was
flipped Republican and Democrat. Is would the goal be to
have roughly the same representation in the House as the
way people vote? Would that be like in a perfect world?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good metric, right, Like
everyone should have the chance to get a representative of
their choice. The party should be represented about an equal
measure of the support they have in the population. This
idea that you know, you control fifty five percent of
the state at the state level, therefore you should get
one hundred percent of the representatives in Congress. It just
makes no sense. And like you said, I think the
(24:56):
typical person, whether they're a Democrat, Republican, independent, green Park,
what have you, they looked at a map that says, okay,
we're going to be you know, four Republicans and forty
eight Democrats. I think most people would say that's just
a little too out of balance. That's really not the
way things are supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, what this disturbs me. I feel like on a
whole bunch of different issues, we've got a bit of
a race to the bottom going on. I mean, what
Texas is doing is to try to compensate one for
a census that wasn't a very representative of reality. But
the fact that you know Illinois, and of course it's
hilarious that Texas Democrats ran to Illinois, one of the
(25:33):
most gerrymandered states in the entire country. But Illinois had
done it long time ago. California did it back in
the day. There's not a single Republican north of New
York in the entire house. But each you know, everybody's
always reacting to what the other party did and saying, well,
we've got to fight, We've got to fight fire with fire.
They play hardball, we'ork and how do we avoid this
(25:54):
race to the bottom?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Great question. This whole fight fire with fire thing is
just a ridiculous slogan. I mean, it's rhetoric, and you
know it's easily rhetorically defeated to the slogan as well.
We fight fire with fire, the whole world burns, right
because some other state is doing something that we don't like.
That means California voters should pay the price. Our people
should be punished for it. Our voters should be deprived
(26:17):
of the right to fair representation, should have their actual
votes from the past overturn. It just makes no sense.
But I do think, you know, like you said, like
you know, some people will quite to text this other
as a point to Illinois, and so you know, there's
a lot of debate of who really started.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
As the truth is, it.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Goes back a long long time at the beginning of
the republic, like we were talking about. But that's why
I think we need to have some sort of national
solution to this. And that's the point of my bill
is saying, look, enough is enough. Why don't we get
back to the issues that actually matter to people. And
by the way, I happen to think that if we
have fair elections, then our party, Republicans will do well.
In fact, we just did win the election at the
House in twenty twenty four with the maps as they
(26:54):
are now. And look at the issues right now. I mean,
we have an absolute stand still at the border. We've
delivered major tax relief to the American people, We've gotten
rid a lot of this woke insanity. And the Democrats, meanwhile,
have never been more unpopular and have em braced to
socialism in New York City. So let's focus on the issues,
let's move past these redistricting games, and let's certainly do
(27:15):
everything we can to make sure that Gavin Newsom does
not succeed in blowing up our constitution and attacking democracy
in our state.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Speaking of Gavin and I mentioned that he has obviously
presidential ambitions, the national punditry that doesn't live in California
seems to be pretty high on Gavin and his abilities
and his chances of being the next president. I feel
like those of us who have watched him more closely,
(27:42):
like all the way from back when he was mayor
of San Francisco went through, I think they're misreading his talents. Well,
where are you on that?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I agree one hundred percent. I think that under the
microscope of a presidential campaign, this will quit. His image
will quick We fall apart once once people start asking
questions like, why is it that California has the highest
homelessness in.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The Half the homeless in the entire country live in
this state, exactly half.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
The en shutter Frome was the entire country. Why do
we have the highest unemployment fifty first out of fifty states.
Why is it that we have the highest poverty rate
in this country, first out of fifty in California. And
you know, as you know, we could go on and
on and on and on. Right, So those questions are
ones that he simply will not be able to answer.
I don't think that, you know, progressives or conservatives want
to live in a world that has the sort of
(28:30):
outcomes that Gavin Newsom's politics do. So I think that
you know, under the scrutiny which she's really never had
to deal with an election process of a national campaign,
that truth will will be unmistakable.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Do you know how much you can bench press? That
communist mayor candidate in New York tried to bench press
one hundred and thirty five over the weekend at a
chim and he couldn't. And I don't know why he laved.
I don't know why he laid down on the bench
to do that, And I don't care. I don't think
we should judge our politicians based on how much they
can move around. I don't think James Madison to probably
bench press very much. But I just thought it was
(29:06):
funny that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
He went to the gym back in the game here,
so you know, he, uh, what's that the Schwarzenegger is
going to be back and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
If we judge everything on that, Hey, thanks for coming
on today and we'll be following this redistricting. You know,
vote and see how the voters feel about it. Obviously,
if that would eliminate you, that would be a bad
thing for US Congressman Kevin Kylie the third District. Thanks
for your time, you bad Thanks for having me. The
thing with mom, Donnie is it's just so funny. So
he visited one of those outside gyms where the super
(29:37):
big usually righted up dudes lift weights outside where eybody
can see him there in New York and say, yeah,
he is in his suit and tie and laid down
on the bench and and he he he could not.
They had to help him get one hundred and thirty
five pounds off his chest. And again, I'm not knocking
him for his what he can bench. I can I
can lift that much. But who cares? But why would
(29:58):
you lay down on a bench underneath some weights if
you know you're a weedy week guy. That just seems
like an odd thing to do to me. AnyWho, Yes,
Arnold says, yes, one more thing on the old man
on the boat. At one point he's telling me what
to do as we're trying to come into the dock.
And you can really cause a problem coming into the
(30:20):
dock on a sailboat because you got no motor and
you could like really wreck the boat and cause a
lot of damage and everything like it. Anyway, I'm coming
into the dock feeling a lot of pressure, everything like that.
The instructor is yelling one thing to me, and the
old man in the sea was yelling a different thing
to me. And this particular case, it wasn't that I
couldn't hear him. It was that he was telling me
the outside. I said, sir, the instructor is telling me
the exact OPSI I'm gonna listen to the teacher. Oh,
(30:45):
I really lost my composure. That sounds like he gave
you every reason too.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yeah, from yelling at you to talk in politics.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Enough, I couldn't. I mean, yeah, I would never do this,
but I think it would have been within my purview
to have said shut the f up, yeah, or I'm
flipping this boat. Yeah, you're about to go a swim in. Sir,
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Speaker 2 (32:20):
Kamala Harrison now so she will kick off a fifteen
city tour to promote her new memoir. It was supposed
to be one city until she found out she could
drink on the bus.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Wow, he really leans on the Kamala Harris is a
drunk a lot. Greg Guffeld So coming up in our four,
Donald Trump is in the midst of one of his
really really long impromptu press conferences, like they're having a meeting,
but the press is there and he starts taking questions
and he's been talking for like an hour, and he's
said a whole bunch of interesting things. So we'll get
(32:53):
some of those to you an hour for along with
Joe Getty, we'll be joining the Armstrong Show. He is
in England on Great Hello. He is in England on
vacation right now.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
I hope he already has the accent.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
It's a bit of a payback me working while he's
in Great Britain because we did this one other time
twenty four years ago. I was in England on vacation
over nine to eleven. I was walking around the countryside
of Great Britain on nine to eleven and Joe was
nearby with his when his kids were young, and he
(33:33):
came back into work and worked all that week while
I stayed on vacation. I couldn't have left if I
wanted to because if you remember, there were no flights
for a week. The first day he threw opened up,
I flew back. But so we'll hear from him from England.
I'm looking forward to that. That'll be a lot of fun.
First of all, I can't believe nine to eleven is
twenty four years ago, and just did that math in
(33:55):
my head. That's shocking if you're of a certain age.
I was so drunk the day of nine to eleven.
I was on vacation. I was walking around. I had
gotten a pub map rural pubs of England, and I
was hiking around rural England, going from pub to pub
(34:17):
through these fields. It was awesome. You'd walk through these
fields and they had like steps built where the fences
were to keep the cattle or sheep or I don't
remember if I saw any livestock, but they'd have these
little steps where you could walk up the steps, over
the fence and down the other side and walk through
these fields and then there'd be a pub kind of
in the middle of nowhere. Might be a castle over there,
pub over there, pub had been there for three hundred years,
Going there, drink a little bit, move on to the
(34:39):
next pub. Anyway, I was kind of hammered, and I'm
walking around from pub to pub, and I could tell
I knew something was happening because people were gathered around
the television. In the lot of the pubs didn't have TVs,
but some of them that did, people were gathered around
and there was something going on. I was on vacation.
I'm in the news business. There's always something going on.
I didn't catch on to it. You were turning it
(34:59):
off for the true Yes, I didn't catch on to those.
One of the biggest stories of my entire lifetime was
happening until the next day. I was a day behind
on reacting to nine to eleven, and then it was
somewhat hungover from me. That was a big black and
tan guy back in there.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Wait a minute, No, Like, those are delicious, but a
lot of you'll you'll be feeling that the next day
for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Especially if you drink like twenty of them. That's uh,
that's uh. The top half is Guinness and the bottom
half is bass Ale. That's the way it works the
other way around. Uh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I think
the bottom is Guinness. Anyway. That's kind of rough. That's
a rough day. So anyway, Joe Joe Getty Live from
Great Britain coming up in just a few minutes. Uh,
(35:46):
and and also Trump's press conference that he's doing right now.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I wonder if Joe saw any of those protests over
the weekend, the immigration protests that were like all over London.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Big Oh really, I didn't realize that. Okay, he's certainly
would be aware of it, because I know he's taking
in some of the local news. This is news, obviously
breaking news. Starbucks has brought in brought back the pumpkin
spice latte and other autumn inspired treats available starting tomorrow.
I don't know where what it's like where you live,
but it's one hundred and three degrees here.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, bust out the uggs, get a pumpkin spice latte.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Put a scarf around your neck, get all cozy, maybe
some sort of stocking cap.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Find a nice fireplace, your uggs, right, and your pumpkin
spice latte and other autumnal inspired treats, which would be
like your pumpkin spice scone and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Didn't you just see pumpkin spice like frosted flakes somewhere
or something I did.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yes, they need to stop. Yes, says our old producer
Sean used to call it. Pumpkin spice is a bully
spice that is trying to push all the other spices
out of the way, and we should fight back against
this because it's not cool. We do four hours of
this darn show every single day. We're contractually obligated to
do that many segments. If you don't get them all,
or you missed a segment or hour, you can get
(37:03):
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Look forward to
talking to Joe and see what it's been like being
in England, which he'd never been to before. Plus I
didn't know about all the protests and stuff over the weekend,
and he's big on the whole immigration problems in England anyway,
I know that's one of his big stories, So look
forward to talking about that in our four on the
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
And in this nationwide war over redistricting, we've seen the
two biggest states go first, the biggest red state, Texas.
You mentioned those five additional seats red. Yeah, and there's
not a lot of blue. They're squeezing that big time. Now,
what we're seeing the opposite in California, where the Democrats
under Gavin Newsom are putting a map on the ballot
for voters this fall that could get them those five
(00:44):
seats back. So that would make sure only four Republican
seats forty eight for the Democrats.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So we're standing up. This is not about parties. It's
not about you know, redistricting lines. It's about holding the line.
It's about protecting all of us, regardless of political party.
It's about power at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is it okay? So the math on that there are
fifty two congressional seats in California. If Gavin gets his way,
four of those will be Republican. So even though about
thirty eight percent of Californian's voted Republican last time around,
(01:27):
they would only have seven percent of the seats. So
nearly forty percent of the people who vote in California
vote Republican, but only seven percent of the representation in
the House. Well that sounds fair. Whatever. We welcome back
to the Armstrong and get his show. Our old friend
Gary Dietrie. How are you, Gary, Hey, Jack, good to
(01:49):
be with you.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
And one thing we now for sure, this scientific study
has come out Joe Jack. There's been now more citations
of redistricting in the last three days than in all
of human history.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I think, no, getting not a hot topic, usually says here.
You are a CBS News political analyst. Now, congratulations, Well, thank.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
You, my friend. Yeah, you know, I've been based in
the state capitol, California for some time. But you know,
as things continue to grow and all the rest of
the good stuff, you know, and I think they guess
that make sense to them. I'm now doing national TV
and radio for CBS as well.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's awesome. Of course. The reason we have you on
today is to talk about the backlash against the cracker
barrel remodel has everybody very angry.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
You know, I got to tell you that's so funny
you mentioned this, Jack, I was thinking over the weekend.
I have never in my lifetime seen a car brand
flip politically in six months, right, a bed, a beer
brand flip politically in thirty days, and a beloved pancake
house and I don't know, fried chicken whatever you know
do the same thing in about two hours.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's undbelievable, it really is. That's a very good point.
We'll have to discuss that later. You got to really
watch your uh your pr currently is a big company.
But anyway, we're going to talk to you about redistricting,
among other things. First of all, what's the likelihood that
this passes? Have you seen any polling on this in California?
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, in California. Here's the problem for Democrats that when
the polling was done a couple of weeks ago, just
on the concept would you like the Independent Citizens Commission
or do you want it to go the power to
go back to the legislature, Jack, This is quite remarkable
to me. Actually two thirds of voters said, now, don't
We don't want to go back to the legislature's control.
We wanted to stay in the hands and that, by
the way, wasn't just led by Republicans and a large
(03:34):
percentage almost twenty five percent independency in California, but a
vast majority, almost sixty percent of Democrats said that. So
that's a big headwind. Now when you start talking about
this measure in specifics, people are just beginning to get
pulled on it. But right now, the most recent numbers
I saw, Jack had about forty eight percent in support
(03:54):
of it. There's a general rule of thumb in California
about propositions. If you don't start your campaign, it's over
fifty percent of his support. You've got a big, big
road to hope.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh interesting, Well that that is uh, that's good to
know going forward with this. Not to READO. We just
had Congressman Tom McClintock on and he kind of went
through the history of jerry mandering, although he is the
correct pronunciation of Gary mandering.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
But yeah, I want you to know I had nothing
to do with that, though it's a different spelling Gary
than me his that's ge r r wise, So I
did not have anything to do with the start of
Gary mandarin.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I want you guys to know, gotcha. But so we
won't go through the history of that again. But like
people have been jerry mandering since the country started, there's
lots of blue states that are all jerry mandered the
heck as we all know. And now it's just But
isn't Gavin's main goal if this gets shot down? Doesn't
he want just to be the face of the resistance.
Isn't that his main goal?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Well? You know, you know, I never tried to get
inside a politician's head. But if you look at the
sort of factual evidence of that in the last twelve
to eighteen months, Jack, you know very well. I mean
he's been in red states all over the country, raised
ten million dollars in a pack to do that, took
up billboards in Florida and Texas, famously debated the governor
(05:10):
of Florida on the Sean Hannity Show of all things.
I mean, he is you know, had their own podcast,
you know, the story with Bannon on it and Charlie Kirk.
I mean, he's been he's been auditioning for the White
House here officially unofficially for last year plus.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
How do you like his chances?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Oh in twenty eight? Yeah, Well, well here's the deal.
We have some recent numbers on that this is really interesting.
In California, his own home state, he has now surged
a head of Kamala Harris as California Democrats twenty eight
choice hod.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But CALLI Kamala Harris. I can't believe anybody's even talking
about her. Still good lord, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I'm just telling you the numbers, okay, And Califia, California Democrats,
California Democrats had her in the lead as their choice
and then just in the last thirty days Gavin surgery tohead. Now, nationally,
there hasn't been a lot of good national polling on
this in the last couple weeks. But what's interesting, Jack,
is the movement on the so called odds. Okay, Now,
(06:11):
why are odds? Why would people care about that over polling?
Because odds take in and these are being watched by
the way, very carefully and reliably by many political sources
in the US these days. Why because polling is one measurement,
right if there's snapshot in time, it takes time to
get a poll out in the field and then you
get it back. Odds take into account other things. What
(06:32):
a recent news cycles there, et cetera, et cetera. What
is fundraising look like, and Gavin Newsom has moved into
the lead nationally in the odds for the twenty eight
race of the Democratic nomination.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, that's interesting, and that was his goal. He wants
to be as close to as a presumptive as he
can possibly get heading into the whole thing, obviously, And again,
the Democratic Party doesn't have a face, They don't have
a person that is like the go to resistance to
Trump and everything Trump and everything that's evil and Republican.
And he wants to be that he and he's making
(07:05):
some pretty good progress on that. But so are you
still now you're working for CBS? How long we've been
doing this together? Gary? Twenty years, twenty five years?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Okay, let me let me remind you. I'll ask you
the question, Karris. Somebody asked me this was the weekend
about you guys? When did you start your local show?
And Sacrament of Us now ballooned into a galactic, you know,
superstar radio program. Well, when did you guys start?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Michael's usually on top of this. So our anniversary is
like in a week couple of days actually, and that
will be twenty eight years, twenty seven years, something like
twenty seven, twenty seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Oh my gosh, Now you're making me feel really old.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know why that are really old? And so am I.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Oh geez, come on, man, I I started with you
guys the first year you were on air locally in
the state capitol of Calipa.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Lord, we've been talking to each other for almost three decades.
What are we doing the job?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Okay, that's the end of that forgets.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Let's do something else with our lives. Okay. So anyway,
but since you're on right now for the last time,
so you've always been staunchly non partisan. That's always been
your thing, and I love that. That's one of the
reasons we always liked having you on. You're really into
just trying to relay the facts. I assume you're still
doing that for CBS. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
That is a great question because people say, because remember,
this really blows people's minds. Prior to my contract with
CBS were started in what twenty eighteen or something, so
that was what seven years ago. I was with our
local Fox affiliate, Fox forty and Zacha Meto. So you know,
people say, did you flip loyalties? No, I've always been
the same, Gary Detrich, you know how it is, Jack
just like you said, I call them like I see him.
(08:42):
I feel like that's very, very important role. That's why
they have me on. Nobody scripts me, nobody tells me
what bent to take. I guarantee you that.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Well, so this is an opinion question. So I don't
know how you want to handle that. But I, Joe
and I take in a lot of national media and
podcast all that sort of stuff. Of course we do
for our line work. I feel like people pundits in
the rest of the country have a way higher opinion
of Gavin Newsom's talents than people who have known him
(09:12):
longer in California. Well, first of all, would you agree
with that about Well, I do think.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That that is how should we call it a bias
that happens with Jack? Literally almost every governor, right, almost
every governor this happened. You could and Republicans and Democrats.
You can go down the list. You go way back
to Mike Ducaccus in Massachusetts and the Massachusetts Miracle. And
when I went to you know, I won't mention the
name of the school because you guys like to make
(09:39):
fun of my grad school.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
On the Gary went to Harvard. He went to Harvard?
Is the John F. Kennedy School of Government. We all know,
glad we mentioned that telling you this for thirty years.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Go ahead, Gary, Okay, I'm hoping people forget. The reason
I mentioned that is because when I was in that,
when I was in Massachusetts, people would say, what is
this fascination with our governor outside of our state? There's
this wrong, this wrong that happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I don't remember, you know, Rick Perry coming out
of Texas or whoever it is. They the local people
often say, I don't know if he's as good as
you think he is. But then sometimes you get a
Clinton or a Bush who perform, you know, at that
high level. But so, where do you think Gavin Newsom
is currently as a political athlete, Well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I certainly think that. You know, you're onto the trend
line right now, which is the Democratic base has been
desperately seeking a true in their words, fighter, quote unquote.
They want somebody to take on, as they call him,
quote unquote, the bully in the White House, and Gavin
has stilled that role. Now, interestingly, there's been a huge transformation,
as you know, Jack, in the last eight months, because
(10:44):
when the President showed up on the tarmac of La
International Airport right after the fires down south. You know,
Gavin wanted to make nice and he needs forty billion dollars,
they say, to rebuild La et cetera, et cetera. But
things terms now are quickly, as you know, they've gone
from bad to worse. And I think Gavin is essentially
given up on trying to woot Trump in the White
House and now it's full on. I'm going to be
(11:07):
the face of the opposition.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't blame him, but man, these early projections Trump
has only been president for what nine months? In the
talk about twenty eight that is out there, Hillary Clinton
seemed like a lock for the nomination in two thousand
and eight. I remember when Rudy Giuliani seemed like who
could possibly beat him? You know, we've seen this so
many times. There's lots of names that I've never even
heard of. You've net, You've probably heard of them, but
(11:32):
that I've never even heard of that could emerge in
the next couple of years.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Correct, Oh yeah, I mean, look, a month is a
long time in politics. I mean, nobody's even talking about it.
Redissing special election on November fourth in California thirty days ago.
Now it's a reality.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Good point.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So the point is, Jack, we have a long long
ways to go. But if you look at the national
odds maker Slats polling right now just for who's going
to win twenty eight, and this is so far out
as ridiculous, but JD. Vance is the lead, followed about
ten points behind, maybe more than that, twelve points by
now Gavin Newsom and then the list goes down from there,
(12:07):
so still Vance, and of course he's no lock for
his own nominations. Then we're a long ways away from
twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Although Elon's saying he might throw one hundred to two
hundred million dollars behind in vance is certainly a big deal.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Well, you know what, he's got those kind of checks.
He could decide he wants tomorrow to put in fifty
cents and the next week could might be five hundred million. Yeah,
but you know that proved, as you know, to be
significant last time around. I mean the battle for twenty
eight that it's going to make it really interesting, Jack,
is that it's wide open. There won't be an incumbent
on either side, and yes you have a sitting vice president,
but that's a real mixed bag of results for sitting
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vice presidents over the years.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Gary Dietrich's CBS News political analyst, let's do it for
thirty more years, Gary.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, how about it we sell with thirty days.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
And go from there.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
All right, and talk to you soon.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Okay, buddy?
Speaker 1 (12:53):
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man I wanted to push into the sea at my
sailing lesson next I even yelled at him. I yelled
(13:59):
at a guy, I yelled at an old man, and
even a small o. I yelled at a small old
man on my sailboat in my sailing lessons yesterday, and
he deserved it, among other things. O the way, stay tuned.
So I take this beginner's sailing class at this little
local lake next to me, and it's two days, two
(14:20):
hours each day, and you get a certificate. That's not
a lot of sailing. I'll begin with the fact that
I'm terrible at it. I don't know if I have
the ability to ever get any good at it, or
if I'll ever even try it again. But it was fun,
but it's way way more complicated than I thought it was.
And there's five adults in the class. On the first day,
(14:40):
there's only five of us in the instructor. I'm the
youngest one there, and right away I had pegged this
one dude who appeared to be about eight thousand years
old as as a bit of a note at all.
I live in a university town, and one thing I've
learned living in a university town is people who have
a really high education. I think this guy at a PhD.
(15:01):
People with PhDs think they know everything about everything. That
has just been my experience. Because you have a tremendous
amount of knowledge about a tiny subject that you got
your PhD in, you think you know everything about everything.
This guy apparently had sailed before or something. I don't know,
this one eight thousand year old man who was in
my class and beginner's class. But why are you in
(15:22):
the beginner's sailing class if you're okay? So when the
instructor was trying to teach us stuff before even got
on the boats, he's got the big chart up and
everything like that, and he's shown his parts of the boat.
The instructor would be showing you and you know, here's
and here's the halliard, and you do and the and
the the the old genius would have to shout out,
and that's what you're gonna want to watch the JYM
(15:43):
main line or throughout some terminal terminology, and the instructor
would say, yeah, we'll get to that in a second.
But he had just had to let the whole class
know that he knew some of the terms already. Okay,
so he's not on my boat. The first day we
just we have two boats. He's not on my boat.
I told some various people about this old man, know
it all, who's in my Classho was kind of an
(16:03):
annoying I was just trying to stay away from him.
Day two, only two of us return for the class.
Only two of us, and it's me and the old
man are the only two. Course it is, of course
it is. And the instructor makes it clear that we're
going out on the boat alone, just me and the
old man. The instructor will be on a motor boat
kind of near us, shouting out instructions. And I thought, okay,
(16:26):
this is going to be a growth opportunity for me too.
I already got like kind of a beef against this
guy and uh a growth opportunity to just you know,
accept them for who he is or whatever. So we
get out on the water and he keeps telling me
what to do. He can't stop telling me what to
do with everything you need to a little further left
love for the pull that in. That's two loosens to type.
(16:47):
And the problem was the actual instructor, who has years
of experience of actual sailing, is telling me what to do.
But the old man doesn't know because his hearing's shot,
so he has no idea that the instructor is telling
me what to do. And at some point I was
getting so frustrated trying to hear the instructor tell me
what to do because I almost flipped the boat. Once
(17:08):
you make a mistaken you can end up. You can
end up in the water really easy. I'm trying to
listen to the extructor while the old man is in
my other ear telling me what to do. At one point,
I said, sir, I'm trying to listen to the instructor
right now. Why God him, why gout heroy thing you saying?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I mean, it was just exactly like that, And there
went Jack's growth exercise.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh, my god.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, and it got it only got worse from there.
I just I could not and I had to several
times a day. I'm trying to listen to the instructor, Sir.
I don't know what. I don't know why the serg
came out of my mouth like that. I'm not exactly
sure I'd have some form of respect. You were still
shocking was I was trying to have respect for an
eight thousand year old man telling me what to do.
I'm still with Michael. You should have just donkey kicked
(17:51):
him right off there. I could have so easily just
stood up hip checked him a tiny bit and he'd
have been in the sea. But I have more of
that story I have to get to later. Oh. I
was so annoying and so hot, and there's so much stress,
recessful enough if find have been with somebody I liked
alone with this guy. Oh my god, we got more
(18:11):
on the way. I hope you can stay with us
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Speaker 4 (18:17):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
As you all know, Chicago's a killing fields right now,
and they don't acknowledge it, and they say, we.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Don't need them.
Speaker 8 (18:27):
Freedom.
Speaker 7 (18:27):
Freedom. He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of
people are saying, maybe we like a dictator. I don't
like a dictator. I'm not a dictator. I'm a man
with great common sense and I'm a smart person. And
when I see what's happening to our cities and then
you send in troops, instead of being praised, they're saying,
you're trying to take over the republic.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
These people are sick. The other thing, the old man
in the sea, the old man on my boat when
we took our break from sailing, he's telling me all
the things he does like about Trump. It's one of
my favorite things as far as the personality goes. Just
lay into me with your political opinions. Anyway, that's Trump
just a few moments ago saying a lot of people
(19:10):
like a dictator, which, of course we'll get headlines all
day long. But that was on the topic of sending
National Guard troops into cities, among things we might talk
about with Kevin Kylie, who joined us now in the
Armstrong and Getty Show. He's a California a congress person
in our House of Representatives representing the third district of
(19:31):
California will actually be Jerry manderd out if Gavin Newsom
gets his way. How are you this morning, Kevin Kylie
doing wow?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Hey, Before we get to the whole redistricting thing, which
would eliminate your position, what are your thoughts on sending
National Guard troops into various US cities You four that
are against it?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Well, I think certainly in DC we've seen the adults right,
We've got a significant improvement in public safety last week,
more than a week, and DC has had out of
control crime for a long time, and it's no one
deserves to live in those conditions. But especially embarrassing for
our country when we have people coming from around the
world and they see our capital city has wawlessness, has
(20:14):
rampant homelessness. As you know, you go to it's like
sacrament our places in California go to CBS and they
have the shampoo and conditioner right under lock and key.
So I think that there's a lot of people who
are like, finally someone actually cares that our cities are
unsafe for folks to live in, and hopefully this will
catalyze a renewed interest in public safety across the country.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, of course though, the big difference being there is
a constitutional way that the president can can take over
problems in Washington, d C. That he does not have
for Chicago and some of the other cities he's thrown out.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Well, you know, interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom himself deployed the
National Guard to San Francisco. I think last year might
have been a year before saying the open air drug
markets are out of control. We need the guard there
in order to help our law enforcement. I'm Brandon news who,
of course did it in a halfway token start of way,
so it didn't really make an impact. But you would
hope that the president would have willing partners in mayors
(21:09):
and governors across the country to ask, Okay, where do
you need help? How can we cooperate to actually protect
your citizens.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, everything Gavin Newsom does is We've talked about a lot,
you have to run through the filter of he's trying
to run for president. That's his main goal. So almost
everything he does is how is this going to look nationally?
Me trying to get the nomination and run for president,
as opposed to what's going to be good for any
various California town. So am I right that if Gavin
gets his way on the whole jerrymandering California, it'll eliminate
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your seat.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That's certainly his goal, but it was also his goal
to defeat me last year under the current district client.
He had his own staff member who came and ran
against me, and I ended up winning by forty six
thousand votes. So even though he's tried as hard as
he possibly can to jerrymander my district, it looks like
an elephant. Ironically, the trunk sort of extends into the
(22:01):
Sacramento area to collect the sort of voters that he wants.
I still think one way or another, we will beat
him again, but ultimately we need to make sure that
the redistricting sham does not go through. It is one
of the worst things that could happen to democracy and
representative governments in our state, and it's an attempt, It
is an explicit attempt to overturn the will of voters
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below up our state constitution and deprive many people of
their representatives.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I was reading something I think it was in the
Washington Post over the weekend, This idea of making the
country look like a checkerboard where everything is equal sized square,
you know, just draw the lines and whoever lives in
it lives in it and make it that way. Do
you have any fixes for this? Because jerry mandrig has
been going on since beginning of the country, there doesn't
(22:46):
seem to be any way to stop it from happening.
Voters hate it. Do you have any ideas? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
In fact, there was an attempt in the early years
of the Republic seventeen I think ninety seven around then
to jerrymander James Madison out of his seek in Congress.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Of course, the term comes from eighteen twelve when the
Elridge Jerry, the governor of Massachusetts real district in the
shape of a salamander. So jerry Mander. But you're right,
it is not a good thing for our country, whichever
party does. To be honest with you, it's bad for
representative government. It disempowers voters and empowers politicians. So I
suppose is number one. We shouldn't be redrawing lines in
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the middle of the decade, like Gavin Newsom's trying to do.
I've introduced a bill to that effect in the House
that I'm trying to get passed as quickly as possible,
and then ultimately, come the time of the next census
when you're actually supposed to be doing redistricting. I want
to see a fix to make elections fairer in our country.
So I think that consists of two things that we
could reach a deal on. Number one, let's get rid
of jerrymandering once and for all in all fifty states.
(23:45):
And number two, let's establish voter ID once and for
all in all fifty states. I think that if we
can do those two things, then we'll have a lot
fairer elections in this country and our representative government will
work a lot better.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So I forget what the numbers were heard the other day.
I think it was about Massachusetts, where they don't have
a single Republican in the House, but they get a
pretty decent percentage of the vote every single time around.
If Gavin gets his way. In California, Republicans in the
last election made up about thirty eight percent of the votes. Stang,
(24:17):
they're forty percent of the votes, but would have seven
percent of the representation in the House. Obviously, that's not good,
and I would say the same thing if it was
flipped Republican and Democrat. Is would the goal be to
have roughly the same representation in the House as the
way people vote? Would that be like in a perfect world?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Yeah, I think that's a pretty good metric, right, Like
everyone should have the chance to get a representative of
their choice. The party should be represented about an equal
measure of the support they have in the population. This
idea that you know, you control fifty five percent of
the state at the state level, therefore you should get
one hundred percent of the representatives in Congress. It just
makes no sense. And like you said, I think the
(24:56):
typical person, whether they're a Democrat, Republican, independent, green Park,
what have you, they looked at a map that says, okay,
we're going to be you know, four Republicans and forty
eight Democrats. I think most people would say that's just
a little too out of balance. That's really not the
way things are supposed to work.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, what this disturbs me. I feel like on a
whole bunch of different issues, we've got a bit of
a race to the bottom going on. I mean, what
Texas is doing is to try to compensate one for
a census that wasn't a very representative of reality. But
the fact that you know Illinois, and of course it's
hilarious that Texas Democrats ran to Illinois, one of the
(25:33):
most gerrymandered states in the entire country. But Illinois had
done it long time ago. California did it back in
the day. There's not a single Republican north of New
York in the entire house. But each you know, everybody's
always reacting to what the other party did and saying, well,
we've got to fight, We've got to fight fire with fire.
They play hardball, we'ork and how do we avoid this
(25:54):
race to the bottom?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Great question. This whole fight fire with fire thing is
just a ridiculous slogan. I mean, it's rhetoric, and you
know it's easily rhetorically defeated to the slogan as well.
We fight fire with fire, the whole world burns, right
because some other state is doing something that we don't like.
That means California voters should pay the price. Our people
should be punished for it. Our voters should be deprived
(26:17):
of the right to fair representation, should have their actual
votes from the past overturn. It just makes no sense.
But I do think, you know, like you said, like
you know, some people will quite to text this other
as a point to Illinois, and so you know, there's
a lot of debate of who really started.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
As the truth is, it.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Goes back a long long time at the beginning of
the republic, like we were talking about. But that's why
I think we need to have some sort of national
solution to this. And that's the point of my bill
is saying, look, enough is enough. Why don't we get
back to the issues that actually matter to people. And
by the way, I happen to think that if we
have fair elections, then our party, Republicans will do well.
In fact, we just did win the election at the
House in twenty twenty four with the maps as they
(26:54):
are now. And look at the issues right now. I mean,
we have an absolute stand still at the border. We've
delivered major tax relief to the American people, We've gotten
rid a lot of this woke insanity. And the Democrats, meanwhile,
have never been more unpopular and have em braced to
socialism in New York City. So let's focus on the issues,
let's move past these redistricting games, and let's certainly do
(27:15):
everything we can to make sure that Gavin Newsom does
not succeed in blowing up our constitution and attacking democracy
in our state.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Speaking of Gavin and I mentioned that he has obviously
presidential ambitions, the national punditry that doesn't live in California
seems to be pretty high on Gavin and his abilities
and his chances of being the next president. I feel
like those of us who have watched him more closely,
(27:42):
like all the way from back when he was mayor
of San Francisco went through, I think they're misreading his talents. Well,
where are you on that?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
I agree one hundred percent. I think that under the
microscope of a presidential campaign, this will quit. His image
will quick We fall apart once once people start asking
questions like, why is it that California has the highest
homelessness in.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
The Half the homeless in the entire country live in
this state, exactly half.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
The en shutter Frome was the entire country. Why do
we have the highest unemployment fifty first out of fifty states.
Why is it that we have the highest poverty rate
in this country, first out of fifty in California. And
you know, as you know, we could go on and
on and on and on. Right, So those questions are
ones that he simply will not be able to answer.
I don't think that, you know, progressives or conservatives want
to live in a world that has the sort of
(28:30):
outcomes that Gavin Newsom's politics do. So I think that
you know, under the scrutiny which she's really never had
to deal with an election process of a national campaign,
that truth will will be unmistakable.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Do you know how much you can bench press? That
communist mayor candidate in New York tried to bench press
one hundred and thirty five over the weekend at a
chim and he couldn't. And I don't know why he laved.
I don't know why he laid down on the bench
to do that, And I don't care. I don't think
we should judge our politicians based on how much they
can move around. I don't think James Madison to probably
bench press very much. But I just thought it was
(29:06):
funny that.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
He went to the gym back in the game here,
so you know, he, uh, what's that the Schwarzenegger is
going to be back and.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
If we judge everything on that, Hey, thanks for coming
on today and we'll be following this redistricting. You know,
vote and see how the voters feel about it. Obviously,
if that would eliminate you, that would be a bad
thing for US Congressman Kevin Kylie the third District. Thanks
for your time, you bad Thanks for having me. The
thing with mom, Donnie is it's just so funny. So
he visited one of those outside gyms where the super
(29:37):
big usually righted up dudes lift weights outside where eybody
can see him there in New York and say, yeah,
he is in his suit and tie and laid down
on the bench and and he he he could not.
They had to help him get one hundred and thirty
five pounds off his chest. And again, I'm not knocking
him for his what he can bench. I can I
can lift that much. But who cares? But why would
(29:58):
you lay down on a bench underneath some weights if
you know you're a weedy week guy. That just seems
like an odd thing to do to me. AnyWho, Yes,
Arnold says, yes, one more thing on the old man
on the boat. At one point he's telling me what
to do as we're trying to come into the dock.
And you can really cause a problem coming into the
(30:20):
dock on a sailboat because you got no motor and
you could like really wreck the boat and cause a
lot of damage and everything like it. Anyway, I'm coming
into the dock feeling a lot of pressure, everything like that.
The instructor is yelling one thing to me, and the
old man in the sea was yelling a different thing
to me. And this particular case, it wasn't that I
couldn't hear him. It was that he was telling me
the outside. I said, sir, the instructor is telling me
the exact OPSI I'm gonna listen to the teacher. Oh,
(30:45):
I really lost my composure. That sounds like he gave
you every reason too.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Yeah, from yelling at you to talk in politics.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Enough, I couldn't. I mean, yeah, I would never do this,
but I think it would have been within my purview
to have said shut the f up, yeah, or I'm
flipping this boat. Yeah, you're about to go a swim in. Sir,
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Speaker 2 (32:20):
Kamala Harrison now so she will kick off a fifteen
city tour to promote her new memoir. It was supposed
to be one city until she found out she could
drink on the bus.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Wow, he really leans on the Kamala Harris is a
drunk a lot. Greg Guffeld So coming up in our four,
Donald Trump is in the midst of one of his
really really long impromptu press conferences, like they're having a meeting,
but the press is there and he starts taking questions
and he's been talking for like an hour, and he's
said a whole bunch of interesting things. So we'll get
(32:53):
some of those to you an hour for along with
Joe Getty, we'll be joining the Armstrong Show. He is
in England on Great Hello. He is in England on
vacation right now.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
I hope he already has the accent.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
It's a bit of a payback me working while he's
in Great Britain because we did this one other time
twenty four years ago. I was in England on vacation
over nine to eleven. I was walking around the countryside
of Great Britain on nine to eleven and Joe was
nearby with his when his kids were young, and he
(33:33):
came back into work and worked all that week while
I stayed on vacation. I couldn't have left if I
wanted to because if you remember, there were no flights
for a week. The first day he threw opened up,
I flew back. But so we'll hear from him from England.
I'm looking forward to that. That'll be a lot of fun.
First of all, I can't believe nine to eleven is
twenty four years ago, and just did that math in
(33:55):
my head. That's shocking if you're of a certain age.
I was so drunk the day of nine to eleven.
I was on vacation. I was walking around. I had
gotten a pub map rural pubs of England, and I
was hiking around rural England, going from pub to pub
(34:17):
through these fields. It was awesome. You'd walk through these
fields and they had like steps built where the fences
were to keep the cattle or sheep or I don't
remember if I saw any livestock, but they'd have these
little steps where you could walk up the steps, over
the fence and down the other side and walk through
these fields and then there'd be a pub kind of
in the middle of nowhere. Might be a castle over there,
pub over there, pub had been there for three hundred years,
Going there, drink a little bit, move on to the
(34:39):
next pub. Anyway, I was kind of hammered, and I'm
walking around from pub to pub, and I could tell
I knew something was happening because people were gathered around
the television. In the lot of the pubs didn't have TVs,
but some of them that did, people were gathered around
and there was something going on. I was on vacation.
I'm in the news business. There's always something going on.
I didn't catch on to it. You were turning it
(34:59):
off for the true Yes, I didn't catch on to those.
One of the biggest stories of my entire lifetime was
happening until the next day. I was a day behind
on reacting to nine to eleven, and then it was
somewhat hungover from me. That was a big black and
tan guy back in there.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Wait a minute, No, Like, those are delicious, but a
lot of you'll you'll be feeling that the next day
for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Especially if you drink like twenty of them. That's uh,
that's uh. The top half is Guinness and the bottom
half is bass Ale. That's the way it works the
other way around. Uh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I think
the bottom is Guinness. Anyway. That's kind of rough. That's
a rough day. So anyway, Joe Joe Getty Live from
Great Britain coming up in just a few minutes. Uh,
(35:46):
and and also Trump's press conference that he's doing right now.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
I wonder if Joe saw any of those protests over
the weekend, the immigration protests that were like all over London.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Big Oh really, I didn't realize that. Okay, he's certainly
would be aware of it, because I know he's taking
in some of the local news. This is news, obviously
breaking news. Starbucks has brought in brought back the pumpkin
spice latte and other autumn inspired treats available starting tomorrow.
I don't know where what it's like where you live,
but it's one hundred and three degrees here.
Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, bust out the uggs, get a pumpkin spice latte.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Put a scarf around your neck, get all cozy, maybe
some sort of stocking cap.
Speaker 8 (36:27):
Find a nice fireplace, your uggs, right, and your pumpkin
spice latte and other autumnal inspired treats, which would be
like your pumpkin spice scone and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Didn't you just see pumpkin spice like frosted flakes somewhere
or something I did.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yes, they need to stop. Yes, says our old producer
Sean used to call it. Pumpkin spice is a bully
spice that is trying to push all the other spices
out of the way, and we should fight back against
this because it's not cool. We do four hours of
this darn show every single day. We're contractually obligated to
do that many segments. If you don't get them all,
or you missed a segment or hour, you can get
(37:03):
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. Look forward to
talking to Joe and see what it's been like being
in England, which he'd never been to before. Plus I
didn't know about all the protests and stuff over the weekend,
and he's big on the whole immigration problems in England anyway,
I know that's one of his big stories, So look
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