November 29, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of the Friday, November 29, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features.
- Just Diane / Mainstreaming Cannibalism
- Next Door Advice
- The Love Planet Stalker Woman
- Why is there 8th Grade Graduation / First Dance
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Catty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong and Getty and He Armstrong and Catty Strong. Hey,
we're arm Strong and Getty. We're featuring our podcast One
more Thing. Find it wherever you find all your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was fascinated by that python farm story the other day.
I actually dug into that, did a little reading, you know,
because pythons are big and giant and meaty and and
they're like super efficient with the way they turn calories
into muscle mass, and they taste like chicken.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I got a question about that, but when I get
to the cannibalisma, I'll I'll hit you with that.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
All right, all right, fair enough. So after the show,
before we started recording this, Hanson replayed a clip of
me saying something rather dry about Jack, and Jack commented,
that's a very I'm just Diane thing to say. And
I was reminded of a longtime listener to the show
and hilarious tweeter I'm just Diane, and I went digging
(01:19):
into our twitter feed. She doesn't tweet as much as
she used to, I think, which is a shame for humanity.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But she's had grown up with a job now and
it's not easy. You should follow her, Katie, if you've
never checked out, I'm just Diane on I am on
her now. She is a listener we became aware of
a long time ago. And she's very funny.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, Yeah. Her pinned tweet is I'd rather go home
than go big, which I agree with. How perfect is that?
And then somebody tweeted the the Nancy Pelosi this is
not an attempt to ban TikTok, It's an attempt to
make TikTok better. Tic tac toe a winner, a winner.
Her comment has simply nailed it. Oh boy, man, I
(02:00):
love understatement. I don't know about the phone. I think
that's hilarious. Oh looking forward to the day my new
phone stops autocorrecting, vaping to raping. Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Her best stuff is how much she hates her job
and her coworkers. But that's a different topic. So New
Scientists is a real science outfit, and they're trying to
take another look at cannibalism, and they mention these bones
that were found in a cave in southwest England which
(02:37):
beared all the marks of cannibalism. It was pretty clear
that cannibalism was going on their teeth, marks on the
bones and the way.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I won't get into details. It's pretty gross.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But and this was fourteen, seven hundred years ago that
they were practicing cannibalism there in England. To Protein's protein baby,
that's what I say today, they write in New Scientists. Today,
cannibalism is a taboo subject in many societies. We see
it as aberrant, as a clear in film such as
the Texas Chainsaw massacre. We associate it with zombies, psychopaths,
(03:06):
and serial killers like hannibal Lecter. Positive stories about cannibals
are few and far between.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I would agree with you there, I haven't heard one
of those.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Wait, what a child's book about cannibalism? Or Jimmy is
a good guy, liked to golf, he treated his family well,
and he was a cannibal.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He'll be missed.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But perhaps it's time for a rethink because despite our preconceptions,
evidence is accumulating that cannibalism was a common human behavior.
Our ancestors have been eating each other for a million
years or more.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
In fact, so was torture for years. In the years
for centuries. But that doesn't mean we should reconsider it.
What a bizarre story this is.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
In fact, it seems that down the ages, around a
fifth of societies have practiced cannibalism. While some of these people,
while some of this people eating, may have been simply survive.
In many cases, the reasons look more complex. In places
like this cave in southern England, for example, consuming bodies
of the dead seems to have been part of a
funerary ritual, something they did when people died. Far from
(04:13):
a monstrous affront to nature, cannibalism may have been a
way of showing respect and love for the dead, say archaeologist.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, uh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Whoever wrote this needs to be investigated. He's like trying
to sell this.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I don't like it right.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He's trying to soften a revelation that may occur someday
about the barrels in his.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Exactly exactly, he's trying to set the table cannibalism. We
need to reconsider it.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I just watched a horrible horror movie about cannibalism where
these guys invite a bunch of people over to their
house for a dinner party, and they're serving them the victims,
but they don't know it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Will Jim ever watch episodes of Hannibal, the prequel to
Silence of the Lambs. Yes, Oh, my god, when he
would when he would sit down at the table in
his suit, with his fine wine and his beautiful home
and starts slicing off pieces of weather that he cooked up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
God, that was gross. Dinner table events.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Do you think because like you, you're so You're talking
the other day about the snakes and how that might
become a meat of the future, And I said, you
because the idea of eating a snake disgusts me.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
There's something about eating a reptile that I find. And
I've had snake, I've had alligator, there are multiple I've
had it, but I don't want to it's gross. Alligator
was great. It's just fried me to say, that's all right,
But could could you eat human? No? No, that's repugnant, repulsive? Why,
(05:43):
I don't know. It's an instinctive horror, I think now,
the concept of it being a funerary ritual. Does anybody
have anything else they'd like to say about Jim? Okay, well,
then we're passing out knives and forks. If we could
all make our way to the cast.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Get. Yeah, I got more than to say about Jimmy
looks delicious.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Now that's some marbling. I mean, I know, I.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Know he didn't exercise much, but that is some delicious
looking marbling.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
He's creating a nice rub for it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Side sick. If you heard me, I think, did I
tell this on the air? I can't remember my favorite
joke now, which also takes place at a funeral. If
you've heard this before, forgive me, but it's short. Uh.
It's a funeral and uh, and people are talking about
the dearly departed, and the widow stands up and says,
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is there anybody else who'd like to say a word?
The guy stands up, He said I would, and he
says plethora, and he sits down, and the widow says,
thank you, jim That means a lot to me. Yes, yes,
that is a good one.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I have.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Actually, you've told that before, and I wrote it down
to tell it to somebody else, and then I never did,
so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I pass it on again. Yes, the beauty of that
joke is you think the punch your line is that
he just says one worker. Yeah, there's a twist and
a twist. My love caught the twist. Well done, good,
good twist. That's funny. So back to cannibalism.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm guessing that we're designed to be disgusted by it
only because most of human history people have been starving.
And if you weren't disgusted by it, I mean, if
you if you thought of eating another human the same
way you thought of eating a cow, we would have.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
All eaten each other.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I mean, just the strongest would have survived and eaten
each other, and the societies that didn't find it up
hurt and died out pretty quickly because of that. That'd
be my evolutionary guess.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, and we're just like an epidemiological reason why it's
a bad idea because obviously humans can catch human diseases,
but I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I suppose that's possible, but you know, we've mostly been
starving throughout history. If you weren't disgusted by it, and like,
the only the only way you could possibly do it
is if you're you know, the Donner Party, and you're
all starving to death. And many of them didn't participate,
they went ahead and starved before they did it. If
it was okay with you, people would have turned to
that right away.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I hates Jim. We all hate Jim. Let's eat him.
I tell you what though, It's it's all about the
method of preparation, because like, I'm not going to have
human sushi or anything like that. That's too much. I'm
a medium rare guy, but I'm going well done on Jim. Yeah,
and I'm like, maybe he smoked all day, like a
(08:30):
long maybe jerky even I want it really click. Could
it be like a company.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Could it be like a sandwich or maybe like a
wrap or something.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
So it's not just that, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't want it like tender and falling off the femur.
I just say, oh, like a turkey leg you know,
you see it the.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Fair, small portions because I'm diabetic. That's right, You're at
the fair and you're eating a human legs. Got that
foot still see that's disgusting. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
So we'll see if this catches on and if New
Scientific is successful in their effort to I don't know,
mainstream cannibalism.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I guess you know what the world we're in right now,
it wouldn't shock me, right.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Right you, Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
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Speaker 4 (09:38):
I've been familiar with next door for a long time,
but I'd never had the notifications on where I would
get where I would get the regular everything everybody posts?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Good God? Is that a smorgus board of unimportant?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Question? It is the forum of first world problems?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
What it is? It's it's a combination of of like
first world problems that you really don't need to mention
out loud to anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And uh, and like big problems.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That there are much better venues for finding the answer,
like my you know, my dad has got this disease.
My dad's got Parkinson. He happened to be president. Does
anybody recommend a good doctor? You going on next door
for that?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is that your best place to try to figure out
these things? It just seems odd to me.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah, I guess nobody ever responds, So I don't know
why everybody's fishing in this pond. I could see asking
for a recommendation of like a service provider or something
like that. I wouldn't ask what medicine do you think
you ought to take? Or anything like that, or you know.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
A football is in my backyards, they may know it
belonged to That was one this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Oh boy, I saw one the other day that somebody
took a picture off of a ring camera of a
kid that doorbell ditched them, and they posted the video
on next door, going.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Whose kid is this? Right? Right?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Lots of those, lots of did anybody just hear that
noise that happens like ten times a day?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And then various responses. I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I thought it sounded like a gun. It didn't sound
like a gun. It sounded like more okay whatever. But
here's my favorite one from today that got me on
this very topic.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Here's another one. Somebody asking about shingles.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Find a medical professional or or web md or something
not next door that's talking about roof.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Depilating a nerve pain or exactly I'm talking about the disease.
Here's my favorite one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Does anybody know what I should do with this crow?
It has a hurt wing. It lands between our houses.
I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to nurse it
back to health. It keeps hopping around, and I don't
know what to do with it. You gotta put the
whip to it. It's not trying hard enough. What should
I do with it?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Call it a sissy and tell it to try harder, right, exactly,
tell it. The Good Lord helps crows that help themselves.
Is like, is it like the new Google for your neighbors?
I don't understand why people are utilizing that. Well, all right,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You don't have Google or any of the other search
engines for figuring stuff out, or even TikTok or whatever
you do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You go to the next door with the other eighty
year old. Nothing else to do is to answer your question. Yeah, yeah,
it's just I'm just shocked by And I've always wondered
this about when I didn't live in a neighborhood for
like twenty years. But now I'm in a neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Every neighborhood I've ever lived in, pretty much, there are
quite a few houses.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Where you know who lives there.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Even if you don't know know them, you see them
on a regular basis, getting in their car, kid, coming
home on a bike, whatever. But there's always several houses
where you just never see anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah ever, ever, you never see anybody ever. Somebody lives there.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Lights get turned on at night, off in the morning,
and that must be the crowd that's on next door
asking about crows or medical questions or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It must be that you gotta go on next door
and say, hey, has anybody ever seen anybody come out
of the blue house on them?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Just start asking really weird questions on there, Jack, that'd
be perfect.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Hey, speaking of asking advice, I thought this was so
interesting and it makes sense in my head. See if
it does to you. It's new research out about getting advice,
asking for advice, that sort of thing, and this, Elizabeth
Bernstein writes, we tend to believe the best person for
support during a tough time will always be someone who's
been there before. Turns out that's wrong. New research shows
(13:42):
we make get better help from people who've been through
a significant challenge that's different from our own. Because social
scientists say this is because those who have been through
an unrelated challenge can empathize with our emotional pain, but
they won't assume they know what our experience is like
or bring their own emotional baggage to the conversation. Oh,
(14:04):
hun's great, that is interesting. I think that one over. Meanwhile,
somebody who's quote unquote been there before sometimes talks more
than they listen. They may also give advice solely based
on their experience and forget that ours is going to
be different, and because they got already got over the problem,
they think we should too, and tend to minimize how
painful the situation is. My main advice with.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Big things that I've been through is usually having been
through this, don't listen to anybody's advice.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That's about my only advice on a number of big things.
Wow wow interesting. A cynical man or an experienced man,
Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes someone you don't know well
may have different life experiences that you can draw upon.
You never know what people know until you ask.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, like, that's the advice I give on my cancer experience,
because I've had a number of people ask me who
get cancer, and I say, don't take anybody's advice, because
everybody's situation is so incredibly different. I heard so many
things that turned out not to be true, and I've been
better off if I never asked. Everybody's situation is miles
apart and changes on a daily basis, so don't worry
(15:19):
about it. And child rearing while not the same as that,
because there are some truths to child wearing, definitely, but man,
there's a lot of I don't know, what are you
telling me this for when it comes to child wearing. Also, yeah,
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Of people are trying to express their own how do
I put this, work out their own issues or exhibit
their own egos or something, because kids are so different
and then the parents interaction with the kid is so different.
It's just, yeah, it's hard to normalize a lot of it. Yeah,
maybe the worst advice giver is somebody who's raised a kid,
(15:54):
because getting back to the beginning of this article, they're
completely convinced that their experience is universal. I'm not talking
about all of you that have had one child. Obviously
some of you have wisdom, but yeah, you'd exactly be
what she was describing. Yep, I because I've got that
situation and it ends up fine. If I just if I'd.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Only had one of them, I would think I was
the world's greatest parent and be willing to lay out
all kinds of advice and maybe write a book if
I don't lay out the other one, I would think
I'm a disaster.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, I heard that. So final note on this, which
I found interesting was the power of weak ties. Conversations
with people that you have weak ties with can be
surprisingly helpful. They don't know us well, they don't know
our faults. They're less likely to judge us or make
assumptions about our situation or something like that. I've had
(16:43):
many experiences like this. Are much more likely to be
a fellow, like a brainstormer, than a bestower of alleged wisdom.
They're much more likely to listen and toss out ideas
with you than try to lay the law down.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
This is the guy sitting next to you at the
bar or the bus stop or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I've had this experience many times in my life, and
it works both directions. They don't have any particular agenda
because they don't know you.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And you don't.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
They can say things that if somebody who did know
you said them, you'd get furiously angry. But because you
don't know them at all and have nothing invested, you
can just hear what damn to say.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah. The power of weak ties thought provoking. Yeah, ask
a stranger, the armstrong and Getty show. Yeah, more Jack
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Speaker 4 (17:43):
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Speaker 3 (17:54):
His arms Strong and Getty conveying our love panel.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So you said love in Bloom or crazy stoker psychobiatch Yes, exactly, Okay,
but that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Question will be decided by the love panel.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's always the problem with that is just it's it's
it's it's whether or not the other person is interested
in you. All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's
just so romantic and well received if the other person's interested,
if they're not.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And he never gave up, and now we've been married
for fifty years, right beautiful?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And I said no five times and I came out
aside and he was waiting by my car with a rose.
If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome.
If you don't like the guy, you call the police
and get a restraining order and maybe pepper spray him.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Or send your brothers to beat him down. Yeah, right, exactly. Ah, yes,
but this is a gal on a mission and Bloom
are crazy stalker psychobiac let's find out. Thirteen Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
I saw this really cute guy at the grocery store
the other day, so naturally, I followed him to the
checkout counter, and when he gave the cashier his credit card,
I peeped it to see what his name was, and
then I googled him and found his social media profiles,
and I was able to tell that he was single.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So I went through his friends list and I found
his mother's page, and then I looked through his mother's
page and I saw that she was a member of
this book club that's in my area. So I went
to the book club meeting and I met his mom
there and she just thought I was so nice, and
I brought it up randomly in conversation that I was single,
and she let me know that she had a son
that was single also that lived in the area, and
(19:42):
maybe it would be cool for us to get together
in chat sometime. So I gave her my number, which
she gave to her son, and this morning he texted
me and asked if I'd like to get together this
weekend and do something. So I guess we're going to
go on a date. I'm really excited.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Wait until he sees this and goes, oh my god,
who did I go on a date with?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. That's insane. Well,
we have a little update for you. That young man
is now dissolving in a as that psycho decided he
wasn't worthy of living, and she is now wearing his
skin as his garment and his fingerbones as a necklace.
(20:32):
Follow up segment. All right, all right, so dude run
from her. God, she actually went to the book club meeting.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And got to know his mom.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh wow, because he's a cute guy. I mean, look,
let's all recognize. I can see a dozen attractive women,
there will be one that'll like make my brain explode
for whatever, genetic, anthropology, anthropological, who knows why it happens. Reason,
Doctor Freud had his own opinions whatever, and maybe it
(21:12):
was one of those. Maybe it was one of those.
She saw him and just her jaw dropped. It was like,
oh my god, for whatever reason, now certainly concocting some
sort of can you help me out to the car
with this or that would have been a hell of
a lot more normal than the whole Sherlock Holmes routine.
(21:32):
How troubled are we by the detective job and the
roots she took.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Man the the going to the book club.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And meeting mom and getting to know her. That is
that is a that's a different level. That really feels
to me like something that ends up with somebody's cat
getting murdered.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So, Katie, you're more up on the modern world of
how this is handling. How do we feel about just
like noticing the name on the credit card and doing
a little research on online so that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
See I think that it was.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
It got weird the second she looked at his credit
credit card to.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Get his number his name.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I like Joe's idea, just hey, could you help me
to the car with this, or like a regular approach.
But I would be lying if I said that I
hadn't met a guy and he had given me his
name and I went home and looked him up. I've
done that before, but not you know, to the extent
to go meet his mom at a book club and
then wear his skin later.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's weird. Michael thoughts, Yeah, pretty psycho, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm like Katie, I mean, maybe you look him up online,
do a little background check, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, here's a little he gives you his name, you
don't look at his credit card to like, kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I don't this. She sounds like a serial killer to me. Well,
there's a little surprise. We're going to talk to him
live now. He's chained the radiator in her basement. Help me,
somebody's helped me.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, it's second part of the story.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He goes missing and she's helping his mom look for
him at that point. That's how these horror movies go.
She's putting up posters. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't
get into about how all you need is somebody. If
you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find
out everything and it costs you like a buck online,
and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone
they've ever had, all their friends, family members. Yeah, it's
(23:27):
it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,
but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any
guy who gets a hold of my phone number at
all now knows where I live and where my friends live,
and where I work and and everything. It's just yeah,
it's just different world for that sort of thing. Of course,
(23:49):
on the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out
to me their date, And remember when we were younger,
all of our names were in the phone book with
our address, all of us, all of us. You knew
somebody's name, you could look up their address. And it's
not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's name
was in the phone book with their address.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Did the unlisted thing come later? Is that no unlisted existed?
But I never knew a girl that was unlisted. Every
girl was dat she was writing the phone book. Okay, yeah,
real rarity. Getting back to the whole meeting mom book
class book club happened to randomly mention I was single
and subterfuge. That just that that is a willingness to
(24:33):
be sneaky and duplicitous. That isn't her first rodeo, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the
the modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would
you rather run into a bear or a man in
the woods for a woman? I mean, just you saying,
was that before unlisted was available? Like you wouldn't want
your name listed in the phone Everybody had their address
the name in the phone book, and every body was
(25:00):
fine with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,
that's dangerous a guy could look up my address. It
worked out. I mean, so is culture that much worse?
Are we just way more paranoid than we? Well?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I would point out that if I had the hots
for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,
her last name was truly rare and distinctive, there'd be
eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell
which one.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That wasn't my experience at all, because I lived in
small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only one Jenny
Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there. And
I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even talking
about it being abused.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
No, nope.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
So what changed our parent the reality of stalkers or
our paranoia.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Both? I don't know. People aren't brave anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
They don't want to just go and ask something, ask
someone out right in person, you know, just hey, would
you like to go out?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Would you like to get some coffee? That's like skills
take developing, though, and we're not letting our kids develop
those social skills. I had chatted up so many girls
by the time I started college. Just the idea of
oh my god, I can't I can't say hello to orright.
It was just foreign to me. It was not like
I have some sort of bold master gamesman or anything.
(26:21):
It was just so familiar to me. You know, hey,
how you doing well? Please? Phones and internet have completely
smashed that skill. I think, you know, this is a
weird grab, but it popped in my head for some reason.
I can't remember why. The other day I was thinking
about the old like the first Bob Seger song with
(26:42):
the what was the name of his band, Bob Seger
and the silver bulibin. No, No, that was before he
was a solo artist, when he was a Detroit rocker,
but rambling gambling man. The line is ain't good looking,
but you know, I ain't shy, ain't afraid to look
a girl in the eye.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And A.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I've always kind of liked that line because he was
a regular guy. But b we've got a couple of
generations who are terrified to look a girl in the
eye and say, hey, how you doing so that gets right.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You think if she she found him alluring enough to
go through all that work, she should have made her move,
right then.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that. Of course,
if you're an all attractive young woman, all you have
to say is so I see you like cereal. That's
good enough. Ice Brenker right there, exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, I just I have a real issue with her
going on a date with him after having done all
of this and acting like it didn't go down like that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
We just so happened to meet I met your mom
at book club, like the whole the start of whatever
relationship this might be is going to be bs anyway.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, that's a decent point there. You can't start with
a lie and then go from there. Yeah, yeah, this
ends with a dead cat, trust me.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
If you uh yeah, if you're out with somebody and
everything like that, And then she mentions, yeah, I was
talking to your mom.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Wait a second, and you know my mom? Why do
you know my mom? This is weird.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.
So I saw your credit card at the store.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I enjoy the book club that your mom is in.
You're twenty three year old woman. You're in a book
club with a bunch of sixty four year olds. Why
I like to read.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County
so you can get to meet this old woman.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That is going too far.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
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Speaker 4 (29:03):
My son, who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade this
week graduating, So he actually asked, why do they have
eighth grade graduation? Well, I don't know the real answer,
but where I grew up, I thought it was because
a lot of people stopped going to school at eighth grade.
(29:26):
There was a good chunk of the class that were
a particular religion, the Mennonites. They stopped at eighth grade.
So I thought that's why we had eighth grade graduation
because they were done. But then found out they have
eighth grade graduations other places, So why does eighth grade
graduation exist?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
You know?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I actually heard a really interesting argument about this once,
where the one point of view was, hey, they've finished
a level of school. Let's say let's show them, hey,
education is important, we're proud of you a good job.
Let's reinforce wanting to stay in school and pass everything,
which I think is a perfectly reasonable point of view.
(30:03):
The opposition was a woman who was saying, they haven't
accomplished anything. They're getting the very basics of education. They're kids,
They've got several more years of mandatory schooling. They haven't
accomplished anything, They've barely gotten started. Quit with the ceremonies.
Too many ceremonies. I lean more towards that point of view.
But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies
(30:26):
I have to go to, I'm in favor of.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it
my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.
I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy
a robe. Yeah, I wear a little green graduation cap
and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid
for because we have it.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So I'm thinking you've got money sucked out of that.
Oh yeah we did.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
We had to do kindergarten graduation and there was like
a certificate and stuff. But I don't think there was
no robe involved, but.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You know, I hate to blame the gals for this,
but it reminds me of little seven year old kids
in full uniform playing Little League, and they have opening
ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of
the teams and lots of pictures and the rest of it.
Back in the day, you just went and played ball.
(31:13):
There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have
an opening ceremony. First game of the year is on Saturday,
Go play it. That was the opening ceremony play ball.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,
and you're supposed to wear a tie. So we have
to go out and get a tie at some point
this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants
because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet
than me. But so I have to get him some
dress shoes and a tie. And it is gonna be hot.
But the night before there's a big dance, the very
first dance of his life. Oh boy, And he said
the other day, I sure hope there's chairs because I
plan to sit.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with
this one, Like I was so excited and he wants
to share to sit.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yes, yeah, I know, I know that that's true. I'm
sure the girls are very, very excited. I was gonna
talk I haven't talked to him about that. I hint
it a I was gonna talk to him specifically about
and I haven't completely crafted it into my head yet,
and it probably won't do any good anyway, because it's
different when you're fourteen than when you're older. And looking
(32:25):
back on being fourteen, but man, oh man, oh man,
there's so many things that I chickened out of or
kind of wish I had done or whatever. You only
live once. You only freaking live once. That girl over there,
you kind of like, go ask her to dance? Good God,
I gotta figure out how I want to present it.
Not like that, but I mean, looking at talking to
(32:47):
my eighth grade me, I mean, just life is short.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
One go round. Yeah, here's here's what you gotta do.
Maybe I'll offer this service. I'll come over with half
a dozen middle school young ladies. Have your boy ask
each one of them to dance. Each one of them
will say thanks, but no, I'm not interested. And by
(33:12):
the end of maybe we'll even do two rounds. By
the end of it, that kid'll be like, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Oh, they just get used to get it, used to
be rejected a couple of times at all.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Or they might be completely demoralized. But uh no, maybe
you have that thirteenth one say yeah, I'd love to.
Did you ask somebody to dance, Michael, Yeah, I think
I did. I usually got rejected, so it's okay.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I didn't ask anybody to dance. Somebody asked me to
dance for the last slow dance of the night. And
I've never been more nervous in my life. I can
I still feel the sweat running down my armpits as
we were slow dancing. I was so nervous and scared.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
But why wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I mean, and I kind of wanted to dance, but
I was scared at one of being rejected and two
of dancing in front of other people. It's just God,
when you get older, it just seems like, why would
you freaking care? But that's just the perspect of age.
You can't you know, you can't inject that into someone.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Well, yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now,
it's such a big thing to them, right.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, yeah, of course it is.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And I'm you know, so on one hand, I don't
know about his friends, but it's probably true for his
friends too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
On one hand, I hope they have chairs there. I
might bring my own camping chair just so I make
sure it posessed it. But he has. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
We got a haircut two weeks ago and he wasn't
quite happy with that, so we went and got another haircut,
and uh, you know, he's been picking out his clothes.
So I mean, you wouldn't get two haircuts and pick
out your clothes and all this sort of stuff if
you didn't care at all. So you care, but you
just don't want to look like you care, because I'm
sure none of your friends are looking like they care.
As the boys again, as the girls you get you
(34:43):
can be as thrilled as you want to be.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Lots of exclamation points.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Of your.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I played the records at the dances I did
do in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think
it's one of the reasons I became a musician. If
I'm playing, you can't ask me to dance.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I'm busy all the high school and says I was
the DJ, which kind of got me out of it.
I got to be there, but I had a job. Yeah,
but uh yeah, so I don't know. I'm gonna try
to craft some sort of go for it type speech.
See how it lands. I can just think of several
examples of like, why why didn't you? Why didn't you
do this? Why didn't you do that? There's no downside.
(35:20):
The worst case scenario is nothing. The well, actually a
worst case scenario is not doing anything and then wishing
the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You would have tried. So yeah, her hair.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
So that said, he bought a fake rolex off of Amazon.
He totally cares. He totally cares. He doesn't cool to
not care, but yeah, he cares. He bought this fake rolex.
It's forty dollars and it's so shockingly great. I mean
it's really really good. It's like really heavy and nice
and yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I think you may be admitting to a federal offense
harboring a known importer of rep bove the counterfeit Goods
got it off Amazon.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was fascinated by that python farm story the other day.
I actually dug into that, did a little reading, you know,
because pythons are big and giant and meaty and and
they're like super efficient with the way they turn calories
into muscle mass, and they taste like chicken.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I got a question about that, but when I get
to the cannibalisma, I'll I'll hit you with that.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
All right, all right, fair enough. So after the show,
before we started recording this, Hanson replayed a clip of
me saying something rather dry about Jack, and Jack commented,
that's a very I'm just Diane thing to say. And
I was reminded of a longtime listener to the show
and hilarious tweeter I'm just Diane, and I went digging
(01:19):
into our twitter feed. She doesn't tweet as much as
she used to, I think, which is a shame for humanity.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
But she's had grown up with a job now and
it's not easy. You should follow her, Katie, if you've
never checked out, I'm just Diane on I am on
her now. She is a listener we became aware of
a long time ago. And she's very funny.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, Yeah. Her pinned tweet is I'd rather go home
than go big, which I agree with. How perfect is that?
And then somebody tweeted the the Nancy Pelosi this is
not an attempt to ban TikTok, It's an attempt to
make TikTok better. Tic tac toe a winner, a winner.
Her comment has simply nailed it. Oh boy, man, I
(02:00):
love understatement. I don't know about the phone. I think
that's hilarious. Oh looking forward to the day my new
phone stops autocorrecting, vaping to raping. Oh boy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Her best stuff is how much she hates her job
and her coworkers. But that's a different topic. So New
Scientists is a real science outfit, and they're trying to
take another look at cannibalism, and they mention these bones
that were found in a cave in southwest England which
(02:37):
beared all the marks of cannibalism. It was pretty clear
that cannibalism was going on their teeth, marks on the
bones and the way.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
I won't get into details. It's pretty gross.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But and this was fourteen, seven hundred years ago that
they were practicing cannibalism there in England. To Protein's protein baby,
that's what I say today, they write in New Scientists. Today,
cannibalism is a taboo subject in many societies. We see
it as aberrant, as a clear in film such as
the Texas Chainsaw massacre. We associate it with zombies, psychopaths,
(03:06):
and serial killers like hannibal Lecter. Positive stories about cannibals
are few and far between.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I would agree with you there, I haven't heard one
of those.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Wait, what a child's book about cannibalism? Or Jimmy is
a good guy, liked to golf, he treated his family well,
and he was a cannibal.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He'll be missed.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
But perhaps it's time for a rethink because despite our preconceptions,
evidence is accumulating that cannibalism was a common human behavior.
Our ancestors have been eating each other for a million
years or more.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
In fact, so was torture for years. In the years
for centuries. But that doesn't mean we should reconsider it.
What a bizarre story this is.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
In fact, it seems that down the ages, around a
fifth of societies have practiced cannibalism. While some of these people,
while some of this people eating, may have been simply survive.
In many cases, the reasons look more complex. In places
like this cave in southern England, for example, consuming bodies
of the dead seems to have been part of a
funerary ritual, something they did when people died. Far from
(04:13):
a monstrous affront to nature, cannibalism may have been a
way of showing respect and love for the dead, say archaeologist.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
No, uh yeah, no, no.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Whoever wrote this needs to be investigated. He's like trying
to sell this.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I don't like it right.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He's trying to soften a revelation that may occur someday
about the barrels in his.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Exactly exactly, he's trying to set the table cannibalism. We
need to reconsider it.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I just watched a horrible horror movie about cannibalism where
these guys invite a bunch of people over to their
house for a dinner party, and they're serving them the victims,
but they don't know it.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Will Jim ever watch episodes of Hannibal, the prequel to
Silence of the Lambs. Yes, Oh, my god, when he
would when he would sit down at the table in
his suit, with his fine wine and his beautiful home
and starts slicing off pieces of weather that he cooked up.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
God, that was gross. Dinner table events.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Do you think because like you, you're so You're talking
the other day about the snakes and how that might
become a meat of the future, And I said, you
because the idea of eating a snake disgusts me.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
There's something about eating a reptile that I find. And
I've had snake, I've had alligator, there are multiple I've
had it, but I don't want to it's gross. Alligator
was great. It's just fried me to say, that's all right,
But could could you eat human? No? No, that's repugnant, repulsive? Why,
(05:43):
I don't know. It's an instinctive horror, I think now,
the concept of it being a funerary ritual. Does anybody
have anything else they'd like to say about Jim? Okay, well,
then we're passing out knives and forks. If we could
all make our way to the cast.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Get. Yeah, I got more than to say about Jimmy
looks delicious.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Now that's some marbling. I mean, I know, I.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Know he didn't exercise much, but that is some delicious
looking marbling.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
He's creating a nice rub for it.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Side sick. If you heard me, I think, did I
tell this on the air? I can't remember my favorite
joke now, which also takes place at a funeral. If
you've heard this before, forgive me, but it's short. Uh.
It's a funeral and uh, and people are talking about
the dearly departed, and the widow stands up and says,
(06:33):
is there anybody else who'd like to say a word?
The guy stands up, He said I would, and he
says plethora, and he sits down, and the widow says,
thank you, jim That means a lot to me. Yes, yes,
that is a good one.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
I have.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Actually, you've told that before, and I wrote it down
to tell it to somebody else, and then I never did,
so thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I pass it on again. Yes, the beauty of that
joke is you think the punch your line is that
he just says one worker. Yeah, there's a twist and
a twist. My love caught the twist. Well done, good,
good twist. That's funny. So back to cannibalism.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I'm guessing that we're designed to be disgusted by it
only because most of human history people have been starving.
And if you weren't disgusted by it, I mean, if
you if you thought of eating another human the same
way you thought of eating a cow, we would have.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
All eaten each other.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I mean, just the strongest would have survived and eaten
each other, and the societies that didn't find it up
hurt and died out pretty quickly because of that. That'd
be my evolutionary guess.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, and we're just like an epidemiological reason why it's
a bad idea because obviously humans can catch human diseases,
but I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I suppose that's possible, but you know, we've mostly been
starving throughout history. If you weren't disgusted by it, and like,
the only the only way you could possibly do it
is if you're you know, the Donner Party, and you're
all starving to death. And many of them didn't participate,
they went ahead and starved before they did it. If
it was okay with you, people would have turned to
that right away.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I hates Jim. We all hate Jim. Let's eat him.
I tell you what though, It's it's all about the
method of preparation, because like, I'm not going to have
human sushi or anything like that. That's too much. I'm
a medium rare guy, but I'm going well done on Jim. Yeah,
and I'm like, maybe he smoked all day, like a
(08:30):
long maybe jerky even I want it really click. Could
it be like a company.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Could it be like a sandwich or maybe like a
wrap or something.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
So it's not just that, yeah, you know what I mean.
I don't want it like tender and falling off the femur.
I just say, oh, like a turkey leg you know,
you see it the.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Fair, small portions because I'm diabetic. That's right, You're at
the fair and you're eating a human legs. Got that
foot still see that's disgusting. That's my point.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
So we'll see if this catches on and if New
Scientific is successful in their effort to I don't know,
mainstream cannibalism.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
I guess you know what the world we're in right now,
it wouldn't shock me, right.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Right you, Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
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featuring our podcast One More Thing, Get it wherever you
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Speaker 4 (09:38):
I've been familiar with next door for a long time,
but I'd never had the notifications on where I would
get where I would get the regular everything everybody posts?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Good God? Is that a smorgus board of unimportant?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It is?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Question? It is the forum of first world problems?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
What it is? It's it's a combination of of like
first world problems that you really don't need to mention
out loud to anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And uh, and like big problems.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
That there are much better venues for finding the answer,
like my you know, my dad has got this disease.
My dad's got Parkinson. He happened to be president. Does
anybody recommend a good doctor? You going on next door
for that?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is that your best place to try to figure out
these things? It just seems odd to me.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah, I guess nobody ever responds, So I don't know
why everybody's fishing in this pond. I could see asking
for a recommendation of like a service provider or something
like that. I wouldn't ask what medicine do you think
you ought to take? Or anything like that, or you know.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
A football is in my backyards, they may know it
belonged to That was one this morning.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Oh boy, I saw one the other day that somebody
took a picture off of a ring camera of a
kid that doorbell ditched them, and they posted the video
on next door, going.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Whose kid is this? Right? Right?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Lots of those, lots of did anybody just hear that
noise that happens like ten times a day?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
And then various responses. I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
I thought it sounded like a gun. It didn't sound
like a gun. It sounded like more okay whatever. But
here's my favorite one from today that got me on
this very topic.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Here's another one. Somebody asking about shingles.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Find a medical professional or or web md or something
not next door that's talking about roof.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Depilating a nerve pain or exactly I'm talking about the disease.
Here's my favorite one.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Does anybody know what I should do with this crow?
It has a hurt wing. It lands between our houses.
I'm trying I'm trying to I'm trying to nurse it
back to health. It keeps hopping around, and I don't
know what to do with it. You gotta put the
whip to it. It's not trying hard enough. What should
I do with it?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Call it a sissy and tell it to try harder, right, exactly,
tell it. The Good Lord helps crows that help themselves.
Is like, is it like the new Google for your neighbors?
I don't understand why people are utilizing that. Well, all right,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You don't have Google or any of the other search
engines for figuring stuff out, or even TikTok or whatever
you do.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You go to the next door with the other eighty
year old. Nothing else to do is to answer your question. Yeah, yeah,
it's just I'm just shocked by And I've always wondered
this about when I didn't live in a neighborhood for
like twenty years. But now I'm in a neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Every neighborhood I've ever lived in, pretty much, there are
quite a few houses.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Where you know who lives there.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Even if you don't know know them, you see them
on a regular basis, getting in their car, kid, coming
home on a bike, whatever. But there's always several houses
where you just never see anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah ever, ever, you never see anybody ever. Somebody lives there.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Lights get turned on at night, off in the morning,
and that must be the crowd that's on next door
asking about crows or medical questions or whatever.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
It must be that you gotta go on next door
and say, hey, has anybody ever seen anybody come out
of the blue house on them?
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Just start asking really weird questions on there, Jack, that'd
be perfect.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Hey, speaking of asking advice, I thought this was so
interesting and it makes sense in my head. See if
it does to you. It's new research out about getting advice,
asking for advice, that sort of thing, and this, Elizabeth
Bernstein writes, we tend to believe the best person for
support during a tough time will always be someone who's
been there before. Turns out that's wrong. New research shows
(13:42):
we make get better help from people who've been through
a significant challenge that's different from our own. Because social
scientists say this is because those who have been through
an unrelated challenge can empathize with our emotional pain, but
they won't assume they know what our experience is like
or bring their own emotional baggage to the conversation. Oh,
(14:04):
hun's great, that is interesting. I think that one over. Meanwhile,
somebody who's quote unquote been there before sometimes talks more
than they listen. They may also give advice solely based
on their experience and forget that ours is going to
be different, and because they got already got over the problem,
they think we should too, and tend to minimize how
painful the situation is. My main advice with.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Big things that I've been through is usually having been
through this, don't listen to anybody's advice.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That's about my only advice on a number of big things.
Wow wow interesting. A cynical man or an experienced man,
Sometimes you don't know. Sometimes someone you don't know well
may have different life experiences that you can draw upon.
You never know what people know until you ask.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Well, like, that's the advice I give on my cancer experience,
because I've had a number of people ask me who
get cancer, and I say, don't take anybody's advice, because
everybody's situation is so incredibly different. I heard so many
things that turned out not to be true, and I've been
better off if I never asked. Everybody's situation is miles
apart and changes on a daily basis, so don't worry
(15:19):
about it. And child rearing while not the same as that,
because there are some truths to child wearing, definitely, but man,
there's a lot of I don't know, what are you
telling me this for when it comes to child wearing. Also, yeah,
a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Of people are trying to express their own how do
I put this, work out their own issues or exhibit
their own egos or something, because kids are so different
and then the parents interaction with the kid is so different.
It's just, yeah, it's hard to normalize a lot of it. Yeah,
maybe the worst advice giver is somebody who's raised a kid,
(15:54):
because getting back to the beginning of this article, they're
completely convinced that their experience is universal. I'm not talking
about all of you that have had one child. Obviously
some of you have wisdom, but yeah, you'd exactly be
what she was describing. Yep, I because I've got that
situation and it ends up fine. If I just if I'd.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Only had one of them, I would think I was
the world's greatest parent and be willing to lay out
all kinds of advice and maybe write a book if
I don't lay out the other one, I would think
I'm a disaster.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, I heard that. So final note on this, which
I found interesting was the power of weak ties. Conversations
with people that you have weak ties with can be
surprisingly helpful. They don't know us well, they don't know
our faults. They're less likely to judge us or make
assumptions about our situation or something like that. I've had
(16:43):
many experiences like this. Are much more likely to be
a fellow, like a brainstormer, than a bestower of alleged wisdom.
They're much more likely to listen and toss out ideas
with you than try to lay the law down.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
This is the guy sitting next to you at the
bar or the bus stop or whatever.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I've had this experience many times in my life, and
it works both directions. They don't have any particular agenda
because they don't know you.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And you don't.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
They can say things that if somebody who did know
you said them, you'd get furiously angry. But because you
don't know them at all and have nothing invested, you
can just hear what damn to say.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
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His arms Strong and Getty conveying our love panel.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
So you said love in Bloom or crazy stoker psychobiatch Yes, exactly, Okay,
but that.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Question will be decided by the love panel.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's always the problem with that is just it's it's
it's it's whether or not the other person is interested
in you. All love like chasing someone's stuff is it's
just so romantic and well received if the other person's interested,
if they're not.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And he never gave up, and now we've been married
for fifty years, right beautiful?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
And I said no five times and I came out
aside and he was waiting by my car with a rose.
If you kind of like the guy, that's just awesome.
If you don't like the guy, you call the police
and get a restraining order and maybe pepper spray him.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Or send your brothers to beat him down. Yeah, right, exactly. Ah, yes,
but this is a gal on a mission and Bloom
are crazy stalker psychobiac let's find out. Thirteen Michael.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
I saw this really cute guy at the grocery store
the other day, so naturally, I followed him to the
checkout counter, and when he gave the cashier his credit card,
I peeped it to see what his name was, and
then I googled him and found his social media profiles,
and I was able to tell that he was single.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
So I went through his friends list and I found
his mother's page, and then I looked through his mother's
page and I saw that she was a member of
this book club that's in my area. So I went
to the book club meeting and I met his mom
there and she just thought I was so nice, and
I brought it up randomly in conversation that I was single,
and she let me know that she had a son
that was single also that lived in the area, and
(19:42):
maybe it would be cool for us to get together
in chat sometime. So I gave her my number, which
she gave to her son, and this morning he texted
me and asked if I'd like to get together this
weekend and do something. So I guess we're going to
go on a date. I'm really excited.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Wait until he sees this and goes, oh my god,
who did I go on a date with?
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Wow, that's a pretty successful effort she made there.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't know how it's gonna turn out. That's insane. Well,
we have a little update for you. That young man
is now dissolving in a as that psycho decided he
wasn't worthy of living, and she is now wearing his
skin as his garment and his fingerbones as a necklace.
(20:32):
Follow up segment. All right, all right, so dude run
from her. God, she actually went to the book club meeting.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And got to know his mom.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Oh wow, because he's a cute guy. I mean, look,
let's all recognize. I can see a dozen attractive women,
there will be one that'll like make my brain explode
for whatever, genetic, anthropology, anthropological, who knows why it happens. Reason,
Doctor Freud had his own opinions whatever, and maybe it
(21:12):
was one of those. Maybe it was one of those.
She saw him and just her jaw dropped. It was like,
oh my god, for whatever reason, now certainly concocting some
sort of can you help me out to the car
with this or that would have been a hell of
a lot more normal than the whole Sherlock Holmes routine.
(21:32):
How troubled are we by the detective job and the
roots she took.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Man the the going to the book club.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
And meeting mom and getting to know her. That is
that is a that's a different level. That really feels
to me like something that ends up with somebody's cat
getting murdered.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
So, Katie, you're more up on the modern world of
how this is handling. How do we feel about just
like noticing the name on the credit card and doing
a little research on online so that.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
See I think that it was.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
It got weird the second she looked at his credit
credit card to.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Get his number his name.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I like Joe's idea, just hey, could you help me
to the car with this, or like a regular approach.
But I would be lying if I said that I
hadn't met a guy and he had given me his
name and I went home and looked him up. I've
done that before, but not you know, to the extent
to go meet his mom at a book club and
then wear his skin later.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's weird. Michael thoughts, Yeah, pretty psycho, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I'm like Katie, I mean, maybe you look him up online,
do a little background check, but that's it.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, here's a little he gives you his name, you
don't look at his credit card to like, kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
I don't this. She sounds like a serial killer to me. Well,
there's a little surprise. We're going to talk to him
live now. He's chained the radiator in her basement. Help me,
somebody's helped me.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Yeah, it's second part of the story.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He goes missing and she's helping his mom look for
him at that point. That's how these horror movies go.
She's putting up posters. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
I've only become aware recently, and for reasons I won't
get into about how all you need is somebody. If
you have somebody's phone number, for instance, you can find
out everything and it costs you like a buck online,
and you got every place they've ever lived, every phone
they've ever had, all their friends, family members. Yeah, it's
(23:27):
it's horrifying. I mean, it's less worrisome as a dude,
but man, if I'm a young woman knowing that any
guy who gets a hold of my phone number at
all now knows where I live and where my friends live,
and where I work and and everything. It's just yeah,
it's just different world for that sort of thing. Of course,
(23:49):
on the other hand, buddy of mine pointing this out
to me their date, And remember when we were younger,
all of our names were in the phone book with
our address, all of us, all of us. You knew
somebody's name, you could look up their address. And it's
not like everybody got abducted every day, right, everybody's name
was in the phone book with their address.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Did the unlisted thing come later? Is that no unlisted existed?
But I never knew a girl that was unlisted. Every
girl was dat she was writing the phone book. Okay, yeah,
real rarity. Getting back to the whole meeting mom book
class book club happened to randomly mention I was single
and subterfuge. That just that that is a willingness to
(24:33):
be sneaky and duplicitous. That isn't her first rodeo, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yes, yes, I think we're a little bit into the
the modern attitude where everybody's so paranoid of what would
you rather run into a bear or a man in
the woods for a woman? I mean, just you saying,
was that before unlisted was available? Like you wouldn't want
your name listed in the phone Everybody had their address
the name in the phone book, and every body was
(25:00):
fine with it, and everybody wasn't paranoid thinking, oh my god,
that's dangerous a guy could look up my address. It
worked out. I mean, so is culture that much worse?
Are we just way more paranoid than we? Well?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I would point out that if I had the hots
for Jenny Smith, or even unless her name was true,
her last name was truly rare and distinctive, there'd be
eleven of them in the phone book. I couldn't tell
which one.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
That wasn't my experience at all, because I lived in
small towns. Everybody everybody's name. There was only one Jenny
Smith in every town. Everybody's address was right there. And
I don't remember anybody abusing it, or anybody even talking
about it being abused.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
No, nope.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
So what changed our parent the reality of stalkers or
our paranoia.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Both? I don't know. People aren't brave anymore.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
They don't want to just go and ask something, ask
someone out right in person, you know, just hey, would
you like to go out?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Would you like to get some coffee? That's like skills
take developing, though, and we're not letting our kids develop
those social skills. I had chatted up so many girls
by the time I started college. Just the idea of
oh my god, I can't I can't say hello to orright.
It was just foreign to me. It was not like
I have some sort of bold master gamesman or anything.
(26:21):
It was just so familiar to me. You know, hey,
how you doing well? Please? Phones and internet have completely
smashed that skill. I think, you know, this is a
weird grab, but it popped in my head for some reason.
I can't remember why. The other day I was thinking
about the old like the first Bob Seger song with
(26:42):
the what was the name of his band, Bob Seger
and the silver bulibin. No, No, that was before he
was a solo artist, when he was a Detroit rocker,
but rambling gambling man. The line is ain't good looking,
but you know, I ain't shy, ain't afraid to look
a girl in the eye.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And A.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I've always kind of liked that line because he was
a regular guy. But b we've got a couple of
generations who are terrified to look a girl in the
eye and say, hey, how you doing so that gets right.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You think if she she found him alluring enough to
go through all that work, she should have made her move,
right then.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah, she's equipped with the tools to do that. Of course,
if you're an all attractive young woman, all you have
to say is so I see you like cereal. That's
good enough. Ice Brenker right there, exactly.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, I just I have a real issue with her
going on a date with him after having done all
of this and acting like it didn't go down like that.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh yeah, well yeah, like, oh.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
We just so happened to meet I met your mom
at book club, like the whole the start of whatever
relationship this might be is going to be bs anyway.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, that's a decent point there. You can't start with
a lie and then go from there. Yeah, yeah, this
ends with a dead cat, trust me.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah, if you.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
If you uh yeah, if you're out with somebody and
everything like that, And then she mentions, yeah, I was
talking to your mom.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Wait a second, and you know my mom? Why do
you know my mom? This is weird.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Okay, well let me tell you how this went down.
So I saw your credit card at the store.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
I enjoy the book club that your mom is in.
You're twenty three year old woman. You're in a book
club with a bunch of sixty four year olds. Why
I like to read.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Pretending you want to read the Bridges of Madison County
so you can get to meet this old woman.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
That is going too far.
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Speaker 4 (29:03):
My son, who's fourteen and graduating from eighth grade this
week graduating, So he actually asked, why do they have
eighth grade graduation? Well, I don't know the real answer,
but where I grew up, I thought it was because
a lot of people stopped going to school at eighth grade.
(29:26):
There was a good chunk of the class that were
a particular religion, the Mennonites. They stopped at eighth grade.
So I thought that's why we had eighth grade graduation
because they were done. But then found out they have
eighth grade graduations other places, So why does eighth grade
graduation exist?
Speaker 6 (29:42):
You know?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I actually heard a really interesting argument about this once,
where the one point of view was, hey, they've finished
a level of school. Let's say let's show them, hey,
education is important, we're proud of you a good job.
Let's reinforce wanting to stay in school and pass everything,
which I think is a perfectly reasonable point of view.
(30:03):
The opposition was a woman who was saying, they haven't
accomplished anything. They're getting the very basics of education. They're kids,
They've got several more years of mandatory schooling. They haven't
accomplished anything, They've barely gotten started. Quit with the ceremonies.
Too many ceremonies. I lean more towards that point of view.
But anything that would less than the number of ceremonies
(30:26):
I have to go to, I'm in favor of.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
Yes, my mom has a picture of my Is it
my kindergarten graduation or my preschool graduation? I don't remember it.
I'm wearing a robe. I know she had to buy
a robe. Yeah, I wear a little green graduation cap
and robe. And they took pictures that she obviously paid
for because we have it.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So I'm thinking you've got money sucked out of that.
Oh yeah we did.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
We had to do kindergarten graduation and there was like
a certificate and stuff. But I don't think there was
no robe involved, but.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
You know, I hate to blame the gals for this,
but it reminds me of little seven year old kids
in full uniform playing Little League, and they have opening
ceremonies and closing ceremonies every season, and the parade of
the teams and lots of pictures and the rest of it.
Back in the day, you just went and played ball.
(31:13):
There's no opening ceremony. What the hell do you have
an opening ceremony. First game of the year is on Saturday,
Go play it. That was the opening ceremony play ball.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
So my eighth grader has the graduation is actually on Thursday,
and you're supposed to wear a tie. So we have
to go out and get a tie at some point
this week. He's gonna wear my shirt and my pants
because we're the same size. Oh, and it's gonna be hot.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
He can't wear my shoes because he has bigger feet
than me. But so I have to get him some
dress shoes and a tie. And it is gonna be hot.
But the night before there's a big dance, the very
first dance of his life. Oh boy, And he said
the other day, I sure hope there's chairs because I
plan to sit.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
It's so funny the difference between guys and gals with
this one, Like I was so excited and he wants
to share to sit.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yes, yeah, I know, I know that that's true. I'm
sure the girls are very, very excited. I was gonna
talk I haven't talked to him about that. I hint
it a I was gonna talk to him specifically about
and I haven't completely crafted it into my head yet,
and it probably won't do any good anyway, because it's
different when you're fourteen than when you're older. And looking
(32:25):
back on being fourteen, but man, oh man, oh man,
there's so many things that I chickened out of or
kind of wish I had done or whatever. You only
live once. You only freaking live once. That girl over there,
you kind of like, go ask her to dance? Good God,
I gotta figure out how I want to present it.
Not like that, but I mean, looking at talking to
(32:47):
my eighth grade me, I mean, just life is short.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
One go round. Yeah, here's here's what you gotta do.
Maybe I'll offer this service. I'll come over with half
a dozen middle school young ladies. Have your boy ask
each one of them to dance. Each one of them
will say thanks, but no, I'm not interested. And by
(33:12):
the end of maybe we'll even do two rounds. By
the end of it, that kid'll be like, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Oh, they just get used to get it, used to
be rejected a couple of times at all.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Or they might be completely demoralized. But uh no, maybe
you have that thirteenth one say yeah, I'd love to.
Did you ask somebody to dance, Michael, Yeah, I think
I did. I usually got rejected, so it's okay.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
I didn't ask anybody to dance. Somebody asked me to
dance for the last slow dance of the night. And
I've never been more nervous in my life. I can
I still feel the sweat running down my armpits as
we were slow dancing. I was so nervous and scared.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
But why wouldn't you?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I mean, and I kind of wanted to dance, but
I was scared at one of being rejected and two
of dancing in front of other people. It's just God,
when you get older, it just seems like, why would
you freaking care? But that's just the perspect of age.
You can't you know, you can't inject that into someone.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Well, yeah, and dances are so small in our lives now,
it's such a big thing to them, right.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Well, yeah, of course it is.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
And I'm you know, so on one hand, I don't
know about his friends, but it's probably true for his
friends too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
On one hand, I hope they have chairs there. I
might bring my own camping chair just so I make
sure it posessed it. But he has. Uh.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
We got a haircut two weeks ago and he wasn't
quite happy with that, so we went and got another haircut,
and uh, you know, he's been picking out his clothes.
So I mean, you wouldn't get two haircuts and pick
out your clothes and all this sort of stuff if
you didn't care at all. So you care, but you
just don't want to look like you care, because I'm
sure none of your friends are looking like they care.
As the boys again, as the girls you get you
(34:43):
can be as thrilled as you want to be.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Lots of exclamation points.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Of your.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yeah, I played the records at the dances I did
do in middle school. I volunteered for that. I think
it's one of the reasons I became a musician. If
I'm playing, you can't ask me to dance.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
I'm busy all the high school and says I was
the DJ, which kind of got me out of it.
I got to be there, but I had a job. Yeah,
but uh yeah, so I don't know. I'm gonna try
to craft some sort of go for it type speech.
See how it lands. I can just think of several
examples of like, why why didn't you? Why didn't you
do this? Why didn't you do that? There's no downside.
(35:20):
The worst case scenario is nothing. The well, actually a
worst case scenario is not doing anything and then wishing
the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
You would have tried. So yeah, her hair.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
So that said, he bought a fake rolex off of Amazon.
He totally cares. He totally cares. He doesn't cool to
not care, but yeah, he cares. He bought this fake rolex.
It's forty dollars and it's so shockingly great. I mean
it's really really good. It's like really heavy and nice
and yeah, very cool.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I think you may be admitting to a federal offense
harboring a known importer of rep bove the counterfeit Goods
got it off Amazon.
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