September 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of the Monday, Sept 1, 2025 A&G Replay contains:
- George Orwell's Animal Farm
- How Money Actually Works
- Kevin Kiley talks to Jack about redistricting
- AI Oh No!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Armstrong and Jake.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Arms And.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.
We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some
good stuff for you. Yes, indeed we do.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
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Speaker 6 (00:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
On with the enfotainment George Orwell's.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Animal Farm, which is worth discussing on a number of
different levels, including the fact that Orwell had written several
things prior to it which were not very good and
was really struggling as a writer, and it just his
projects didn't come together quite right, and it would have
(01:16):
been very easy to give up. I mean, he's rightfully
worshiped for his prescient, you know, and insightful descriptions of
totalitarianism and how it works and how it progresses inch
by inch and stuff like that. But hell, he's a
testament to hanging in there and you know, working hard anyway.
(01:37):
So I came across this threat of comment on Animal Farm, which,
if you haven't read it since.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
High school, read it again. I try to read it
every couple of years.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
It's about talking pigs, right, well, quite a few talking animals.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Jack. It's practically a Disney film. It's just wonderful. So
read it to your three year kind of a Charlotte
oh Web like thing.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yes, unless your three year old likes mass executions. Don't
read the Animal Farm anyway. So this, this author has
trotted out ten truths from Animal Farm, or well warned
us to never forget. And the first is revolution contains
the seeds of its own corruption. Power crrupts ABC one
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two three, need not dwell on that power crupts incrementally
through small compromises, and he gives examples from the book.
And the first small inequality sets a precedent that escalates
step by step to mass executions and Napoleon the Pig
becoming an absolute dictator.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Spoiler alert. So spoiler alert on an eighty year old
book that seems to be true. I guess that's why
you don't give an inch huh on a variety of things.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, right, yeah, yeah, corruption tends to grow by inches,
not by you know, yards or miles, they get better
as they go. Interestingly, enough, point number three is language
becomes a weapon to control reality itself.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We've lived that situation for the past five years or more.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, folks, we probably don't need to expand on that notion,
but if there, if I could boil down, you know,
I've got a list of roughly one hundred and forty
four g hods at this point. But number one, I think,
honestly is to help people understand how when they tell
you what words to use and start changing those words
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and demanding that you use their words, not.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The words you've always used. That's two things.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Number one, they're trying to pervert meaning, and therefore, you
know when the argument by just you know, clouding the waters,
clouding the waters. But secondly, they're demanding an act of
submission from you, and it's an important one because you know,
without free speech, may we be led like dumb animals
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to the slaughter?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But sometimes sometimes it's definitely that. Sometimes
it's just it it helps persuade people. Pro choice sure
is going to persuade more people than pro abortion.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Gender affirming care settles the argument. Wait a minute, It's
not a sex change operation or an experiment on a
confused child. It's affirming the gender that they are. How
can you disagree with that? I know the left wins
that battle all the time. I mean, all the conservatives,
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Fox News, everybody always adopts the language of the left always. Yeah.
I actually semi regularly badger Fox News to stop using
the term gender affirming care and it and back to
language becoming a weapon of control reality itself. It eventually
culminates in the absurd contradiction all animals are equal, but
some animals are more equal than others. Ignorance is men
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you factured to enable oppression. Napoleon, the pig raises puppies
in isolation to become as vicious guard dogs, will deliberately
keeping other animals illiterate so they cannot read the altered commandments.
Am I such a conspiracy theorist that I think?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean we? I think most of us have agreed that.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Government schools in America now are indoctrinating kids into postmodernism,
neo Marxism, wokeism.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Are they deliberately not teaching the kids to be capable
and self reliant? Or is that kind of an after effect.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I don't know if I believe that, but a good
example would be what the Church at its worst did
up until the you know, Protestant Reformation.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You weren't.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You weren't in on the ability to read and determine
for yourself what was what was going on?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right? Right?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
More key takeaways from Animal Farm on its birthday. Historical
memory can be erased and rewritten now speaking or well
read nineteen eighty four, Oh yeah, with Big brother in
all and Big Brothers watching. No read it, you have
to read it again. The idea of erasing historical memory
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perverting a people's own history so they don't know who
they are, and then you can supply them an alternate history.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That puts them where you want them to be. They're
not accidentally Howard zenning our history in schools. It's a deliberate.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Strategy sixteen nineteen project Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
That was not inaccurate because they move too fast or
something like that. It was deliberately designed to make Western
civilization ashamed of itself and anxious for its own change.
Anyway I could elaborate, but erasing history is enormously popular,
is enormously important. Rather uh, point six, propaganda is more
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powerful than physical force.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hmmm, squealer.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
The pig constantly threatens that Jones will come back if
animals don't obey, while presenting false statistics showing increased food production,
even as the animals starve. They believe their suffering serves
the greater good. Just bad information. Interesting, scape and those
pigs didn't have the Internet. That's the problem we got.
They didn't have as much misinformation. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
(07:30):
that's a good point, U. Scapegoating enables political manipulation. That's
a kind of self explanatory. I think if you blame, say,
I don't know, white people or Jews or black people
or whatever, for the ills of society, you don't have
to take responsibility for them and fix them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Point number eight.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Fear and violence reshaped consciousness itself. The uh you know,
the Pig regime created so much terror that even questioning
orders became unthinkable. Again, that speaks for itself. Now, this
is one of the parts I really wanted to get to.
Mass conformity is engineered, not natural. This relates directly to
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what we've been talking about the last couple of days,
and that's a preference falsification, where everybody starts to believe
everybody believes something other than what they believe.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's a deliberate strategy.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
And the sheep in Animal Farm are trained to mindlessly
chant slogans and drown out any descent by bleating on
for minutes on end, and they easily switch from four
legs good, two legs bad, to four legs good, two
legs better when the pigs start walking upright. That's what
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they're trying to do to the kids too, teach them
to mindlessly bleat. You can choose your gender. White people
a white supremacy. We need to eliminate. They have no
idea what they're talking about. They're the useful idiots. The
term you hear sometimes and Jack will semi frequently have
(09:09):
the conversation, do you like the college administrators and the teachers,
the school teachers and all? Do they know that they're
neo Marxist postmodernists trying to tear down Western civilization? And
the answer is some of them do, but a lot
of them are just the sheep from Animal Farm. They're
bleating four legs good, two legs bad. And final point,
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the working classes loyalty becomes their exploitation. If you can
get people tribal enough, they will let you get away
with anything.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Anyway, read Animal Farm.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's great, short and it's got talking animals in it,
so it's pretty much just like I don't know, Finding
Nemo or or the Charlotte's Web. A lot like that
Little Pigs Again, it's more torture and murder, but very
much like this three Yeah worth point.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Now both those books nineteen eighty four and Animal Farm.
You could read it in the afternoon if you really
wanted to.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Animal eighty four us a little longer than that, but
it's it's worth it, absolutely worth it.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's a compelling read. You just looked up at the
Twitter feed. Our friend Tim retweeted it. It's a video
of how hedgehogs mate for some reason and need in
the delicate way in which the female hedgehog has to
flatten her spines so that the male hedgehog can get
up close enough to It's really fascinating some of you It.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Wasn't, but aren't that appreciate it?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
On my list of things I thought I would see
this morning when I got up, I wasn't hedgehogs mating.
I didn't think that one thing I did think I
would see or hear about.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Lo boo boo. I got nothing to say about it.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I just wanted to get the word on because apparently
you need to say it or discuss it at least
once a day during this current moment in time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Loo boo boo. There you go.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Good. We checked that box, we checked the we got
it on the air, all right. Final note on the
animal farm thing. The first comment under the thread the
first time I saw it was there are echoes of
that today.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's insightful. Oh that's some good ass right there. Well,
it's better not getting it. I suppose the Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
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Speaker 2 (11:32):
And Getdy Show. Oh here's how money actually works. Seven
dollars beautiful. Are you about to say something?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Okay, So we're gonna do the one on one class first,
and then two to one class. If this first part
is too obvious for some of you, Congratulations on understanding
the basics of economics, which is a fairly rare thing
in today's world, which is highly discouraging. But first of all,
they're talking about who's this writer? I like to take
give credit because it's really well written. Matthew Hennessy in
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the Wall Street Journalist talking about the fellows in Oasis,
the British rock band which is getting back.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Together, Wonder Wall. He gets back, he gets.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Into some of the backstory, the Gallagher brothers who can't
stand each other and can't get along, but they're the
indispensable members of the band Oasis. Last month, the Boys
Buried the Hatchet and now series twenty twenty five concerts Delirious.
Fans were young and relatively poor during the band's heyday
are now older and relatively rich. They have the willingness
and ability to pay to see Oasis and concert. Economically speaking,
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that's called demand, but demand is only one side of
the economic story.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Morning Glory for the moment.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
At least, the Oasis reunion is limited to a handful
of shows, and the Wembley Stadium is large.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's not infinitely so, and.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
There's no guarantee the brothers will remain on speaking terms
beyond next summer. Fans understand that this may be their
last chance to see the battling Gallagher lads together on stage.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Supply is limited now.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Introductory economics tell us that when supply is tight and
demand is high, prices rise to an equilibrium, which is
exactly what happened. Then he talks about dynamic pricing and
how the tickets are significantly more expensive than they seem
to be when initially announced. Some accuse the greedy brothers
of ripping off their loyal fans. Many more aim their
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Furia ticket Master, the American Ticket Sales BMTH, owned by
Live Nation Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
The fur revealed.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Terrible Probably not going to hang argue me out of
my anger atic ticket Master in general, but go on.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
The fees, the fees that creep up onto your bill
at the end. Yes, that's a different topic and an
interesting you're electronic sending me of the ticket cost forty
dollars what? Yeah, anyway, putting that aside, because this is
just a question of the price of the tickets. The
Furer revealed a terrible ignorance, even among the highly educated,
of what prices are and how they work. I would
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argue to the journalists that know, these are people posing
as being outraged, they're not actually outraged. Like the very
Prime Minister of Britain, kir Starmer, told the House Commons
that he found it depressing to hear of the oasis
price hikes, He promised a commission to investigate what he
called extortionate price resealers whatever. Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy told
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the Bebe that quote, vastly inflated prices would exclude ordinary fans.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They have a culture secretary, Yeah, why do you need
that secretary of culture? And there should be some sort
of government intervention in that some things are more expensive
than others.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
What, yeah, bollocks in economic terms a concert ticket And
this is the really important part. This is the econ
one to one stuff that if you don't understand it,
you don't get anything about economic A concert ticket is
no different from a book, a bottle of wine, or
a house. It has no inherent value, only the price
a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is
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willing to accept. The market clearing price of anything is
where demand meet supply. The correct and fair price is
whatever the market will bear. No buyer has a right
to a low price, just as no seller has a
right to a high price. Then they point out the
obvious oasis could be nice guys and sellar tickets for
five bucks, but scalpers would snatch them all up and
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resell them for much much more. What good would it
do for Oasis, for the ordinary fan or anybody to
allow third party resellers to capture all that value.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well, that's what Yeah, that's what people don't understand about sports,
guitar players, whatever, actors and actresses. Somebody's going to get
that money because there's a demand for it. So if
it's not George Cooney or Shoheyo Tani or the Gallagher brothers,
then the company that puts on the show or the game,
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or the network or whatever, they get the money.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But somebody is getting the money. It's just the way
it works, right.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
A couple more quick tidbits, and music industry guru explained
that the acts hide behind Ticketmaster.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
They want them to take the flack all this stuff.
That's pretty good, that's probably true.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's not good for your image, but Ticketmaster takes
all the flack. And he also writes, here's the dirty
little secret. Ticketmaster does nothing that the band does not
agree to. So anyway, I thought that was a good
little instructional on if there's demand and little supply, the
prices are going to go up, and it should, and
you know, what's going to happen. The Gallery boys are
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going to put down their fists and open up their
calendars and say, you know, I'm a lot to play
half a dozen more shows, are you?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And supply will increase in the prices will I was
drunk in the back seat of an suv.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That could go.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I have one thousand, five hundred stories that start that way,
but in this particular one, the enter my seat. I
was drunk in the back of the suv on the
way to an Oasis concert Charlotte, North Carolina in nineteen
ninety five when we heard on the radio that they'd
cancel the concert because the two brothers had gotten a
fistfight backstage. So I still have not seen them.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Wow Wow, Yeah, that legend not overblown. No, that reminds
me when they were like in their sixties, the Davis brothers.
It looks like Davies, but it's pronounced Davis of the Kinks. Actually,
we're continuing to come to blows and scream at each
other backstage in their sixties trying to tour. Wow, get
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some counseling from us or something.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Let it go.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
As you all know, Chicago's at killing fields right now,
and they don't acknowledge it, and they say we don't
need them.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Freedom. Freedom.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of people
are saying, maybe we like a dictator. I don't like
a dictator. I'm not a dictator. I'm a man with
great common sense and I'm a smart person. And when
I see what's happening to our cities and then you
send in troops instead of being praised, this same you're
trying to take over the republic.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
These people are sick.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The other thing, the old man in the sea, the
old man on my boat when we took our break
from sailing, he's telling me all the things he doesn't
like about Trump. That's one of my favorite things as
far as the personality goes. This lay into me with
your political opinions. Anyway, that's Trump just a few moments
ago saying a lot of people like a dictator, which,
of course we'll get headlines all day long, but that
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was on the topic of sending National Guard troops into cities,
among things we might talk about with Kevin Kylee who
joined us now on the Armstrong and Getty Show. He's
a California a congress person in our House of Representatives
representing the third district of California will actual be jerry
mandered out if Gavin Newsome gets his way.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
How are you this morning, Kevin Kiley doing wow?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Hey, Before we get to the whole redistricting thing, which
would eliminate your position, what are your thoughts on sending
National Guard troops into various US cities for that are
against it?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think certainly in DC, we've seen the results, right,
We've got a significant improvement in public safety over the
last week, more than a week. And DC has had
out of control crime for a long time, and it's
no one deserves to live in those conditions. But especially
embarrassing for our country when we have people coming from
around the world and they see our capital city has walllessness,
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has rampant homelessness. As you know, you go to it's
like stock coming to our places in California, go to
CBS and they have the shampoo and conditioner right under
lock and key. So I think that there's a lot
of people who are like, finally someone actually cares that
our cities are unsafe for folks to live in, and
hopefully this will catalyze a renewed interest in public safety
across the country.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, of course, though, the big difference being there is
a constitutional way that the president can take over problems
in Washington, d c. That he does not have for
Chicago and some of the other cities he's thrown out.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, you know, interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom himself deployed the
National Guard to San Francisco. I think last year might
have been a year before saying the open air drug
markets are out of control. We need the Guard there
in order to help our law enforcement. I'm Brandon Newsom.
Of course did it it a halfway token started way,
so it didn't really make an impact. But you would
hope that the president would have willing partners in mayors
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and governors across the country to ask, Okay, where do
you need help, how can we cooperate to actually protect
your systems.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, everything Gavin Newsom does is we've talked about a lot.
You have to run through the filter of he's trying
to run for president. That's his main goal, So almost
everything he does is how is this going to look nationally?
Me trying to get the nomination and run for president,
as opposed to what's going to be good for any
various California town. So am I right that if Gavin
gets his on the whole jerrymandering California, it'll eliminate your seat.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's certainly his goal, But it was also his goal
to defeat me last year under the current district client.
He had his own staff member who came and ran
against me, and I ended up winning by forty six
thousand votes. So even though he's tried as hard as
he possibly can to gerrymander my district, it looks like
an elephant. Ironically, the trunk sort of extends into the
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Sacramento area to collect the sort of voters that he wants.
I still think one way or another, we will beat
him again, But ultimately we need to make sure that
the redistricting sham does not go through. It is one
of the worst things that could happen to democracy and
representative governments in our states, and it's an attempt, It
is an explicit attempt to overturn the will of voters
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below up our state constitution and deprive many people of
their representatives.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I was reading something I think it was in the
Washington Post over the weekend, this idea of making the
country look like a checkerboard where everything is equal sized square,
you know, just draw the lines and whoever lives in
it lives in it and make it that way.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Do you have any fixes for this?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Because jerry mandering has been going on since beginning of
the country, there doesn't seem to be any way to
stop it from happening.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Voters hate it. Do you have any ideas? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
In fact, there was an attempt in the early years
of the Republic seventeen I think ninety seven around then
to jerry Mander James Madison out of his seek in Congress.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of course, the term comes from eighteen twelve when Elridge Jerry,
the governor of Massachusetts real district in the shape of
a salamander. So Jerry Mander. But you're right, it is
not a good thing for our country, whichever party does it.
To be honest with you, it's bad for representative government.
It disempowers voters and empowers politicians. So I suppose is
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number one. We shouldn't be redrawing lines in the middle
of the decade, like Gaven Newsom's trying to do. I've
introduced a bill to that effect in the House that
I'm trying to get passed as quickly as possible, and
then ultimately come the time of the next census when
you're actually supposed to be doing redistricting. I want to
see a fix for to make elections fairer in our country.
So I think it consists of two things that we
could reach a deal on. Number one, let's get rid
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of jerrymandering once and for all in all fifty states.
And number two, let's establish voter ID once and for
all in all fifty states. I think that if we
can do those two things, then we'll have a lot
their elections in this country, and our representative the government
will work a lot better.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So I forget what the numbers were heard the other day.
I think it was about Massachusetts, where they don't have
a single Republican in the House, but they get a
pretty decent percentage of the vote every single time around.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
If Gavin gets his way.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
In California, Republicans in the last election made up about thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Eight percent of the votes.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Dang near forty percent of the votes, but would have
seven percent of the representation in the House.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Obviously that's not good.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And I would say the same thing if it was
flipped Republican a Democrat. Is would the goal be to
have roughly the same representation in the House as the
way people vote?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Would that be like in a perfect world?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I think that's pretty good metric, right, Like, everyone
should have the chance to get a representative of their choice.
The parties should be represented about an equal measure of
the support they have in the population. This idea that
you know, you control fifty five percent of the state
at the state level, therefore you should get one hundred
percent of the representatives in Congress. It just makes no sense.
And like you said, I think the typical person, whether
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they're Democrat or Republican, independent, Green Party, what have you,
they looked at a map that says, okay, we're going
to be you know, four Republicans and forty eight Democrats.
I think most people would say that's just a little
too out of balance. That's really not the way things
are supposed to work.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, what this disturbs me.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I feel like on a whole bunch of different issues,
we've got a bit of a race to the bottom
going on. I mean, what Texas is doing is to
try to compensate one for a census that wasn't a
very representative of reality. But the fact that you know Illinois,
and of course it's hilarious that Texas Democrats ran into Illinois,
one of the most gerrymandered states in the entire country.
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But Illinois had done a long time ago. California did
it back in the day. There's not a single Republican
north of New York in the entire house. But each
you know, every everybody's always reacting to what the other
party did and saying, well, we've got to fight.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
We've got to fight fire with fire.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
They play hardball, we'k and how do we avoid this
race to the bottom?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Great question. This whole fight fire with fire thing is
just a ridiculous slogan. I mean, it's it's a rhetoric,
and you know, it's easily rhetorically defeated to the slogan,
as we we fight fire with fire, the whole world burns.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, that's a good one because.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Some other state is doing something that we don't like.
That means California voters should pay the price. Our people
should be punished for it, Our voters should be deprived
of the right to fair representation, should have their actual
votes from the past overturn. It just makes no sense.
But I do think, you know, like you said, like
you know, some people will point to Texas other as
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a point to Illinois, and so you know, there's a
lot of debate of who really started as the truth is,
it goes back a long long time to the beginning
of the republic, like we were talking about. But that's
why I think we need to have some sort of
national solution to this. And that's the point of my
bill is saying, well, enough is enough. Why don't we
get back to the issues that actually matter to people?
And by the way, I happen to think that if
we have fair elections, then our party, Republicans will do well.
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In fact, we just did win the election at the
House in twenty twenty four with the mass as they
are now. And look at the issues right now. I mean,
we have an absolute stand still at the border. We've
delivered major tax release to the American people, We've gotten
rid a lot of this woke insanity. And the Democrats meanwhile,
have never been more unpopular and have been braced to
socialism in New York City. So let's focus on the issues,
(26:34):
let's move past these redistricting games, and let's certainly do
everything we can to make sure that Gavin Newsom does
not succeed in blowing up our constitution and attacking democracy
in our state.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Speaking of Gavin, and I mentioned that he is obviously
presidential ambitions, the national punditry that doesn't live in California
seems to be pretty high on Gavin and his abilities
and his chances of being the next present. I feel
like those of us who have watched him more closely,
(27:04):
like all the way from back when he was mayor
of San Francisco went through, I think they're misreading his talent.
So well, where are you on that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I agree one hundred percent. I think that under the
microscope of a presidential campaign, this will his image will
quickly fall apart once people start asking questions like why
is it that California has the highest homelessness.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
In this half the whole less in the entire country
live in this state.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Exactly half the end of shutter Frome was in the
entire country. Why do we have the highest unemployment fifty
of first out of fifty states. Why is it that
we have the highest poverty rates in this country, first
out of fifty in California? And you know, as you know,
we could go on and on on and on right,
So those questions are ones that he simply will not
be able to answer. I don't think that, you know,
progressives or conservatives want to live in a world that
(27:51):
has the sort of outcomes that Gavin Newsom's politics do.
So I think that you know, under this scrutiny, which
she's really never had to deal with an election process
of a national campaign, that truth will will be unmistakable.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Do you know how much you can bench press?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That communist mayor candidate in New York tried to bench
press hundred and thirty five over the weekend at a
gym and he couldn't. And I don't know why he
laid I don't know why he laid down on the
bench to do that, and I don't care. I don't
think we should judge our politicians based on how much
led they can move around. I don't think James Madison
to probably bench press very much, But I just thought
(28:27):
it was funny that he went to.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
The gym back in the game here, so you know,
he h, what's that the Schwarzenegger is going to be
back and.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
If we judge everything on that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Hey, thanks for coming on today, and we'll be following
this redistricting, you know, vote and see how the voters
feel about it. Obviously, if that would eliminate you, that
would be a bad thing for US Congressman Kevin Kylie
the third district.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thanks for your time you thanks for.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Having me Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And Getty show the Armstrong and getting shot.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
There are all sorts of stuff, all sorts of things
we could talk about, but just at least briefly, a
little feature ed I'd like to call ai oh no,
what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
This is called? It's called ai oh no Wow. I
like that.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
It's got It tells you what the topic is and
then denotes a sense of urgency, right and foreboding.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yes, indeed, that's what I was going for.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So first of all, and I wasn't even going to
include this, but it's kind of stuck in the back
of my mind. Is a think piece I think it
was in the Free press talking about the appeal of socialism.
These days, and how you know, we've turned out a
couple of generations of youngsters who are absolutely you know, indoctrinated,
brainwashed into thinking, you know, the Western it's bad and
(30:00):
capitalism is bad, and collectivism and blah blah blah, we
all know all the whole woke thing, the whole critical
theory thing. And then they point out you combine that
with a future in which the very first jobs and
job prospects that are going to disappear because of AI
are whitish, color isshes sort of needed a college degree
(30:23):
but not really cubicle. I'm too uppercross to work with
my hands. I work in an office type jobs. Those
are going to be disappearing in droves. Wow, among a
collective of people that's already pretty enthusiastic about socialism, and
(30:44):
how about how capitalism is stacked against the people and
it only serves the few and blah blah blah and
uh and they, you know, they said to the obvious
Mamdanni and other people. But it's gonna get harder and harder.
I think to stand on the beach and turn back
that tide. Yeah, I don't think I's a chance anyway.
(31:04):
The fabulous Peggy Noonan is writing about that and other things,
and she quotes a piece by the writer John Ellis,
who's been on the AI story for years, and she
says brings an interesting combination of common sense and imagination
to the available information on his sub stack. He argued
that quote the overwhelming force of AI is bearing down
on the job market.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
People, he says, can see it coming.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
And yet quote, I drive up and down Old Post
Road in Fairfield County almost every day.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I happen to know that road very well.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
What I do I pass office buildings and storefronts that
are the workplaces of insurance brokers, local and regional bankers,
mortgage brokers, lawyers, accountants, consultants, marketers, real estate agents, et cetera.
And what I think about all those people as I
pass them by, is this, the companies they work for
will employ ten to twenty five percent fewer of them
in probably.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Two years, maybe three twenty five percent fewer in a
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's major.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And what those people do for a living will be
done by AI, interestingly enough, and it's worth mentioning the
other side of the coin. This same writer offers Microsoft's
Microsoft's lists of twenty professions AI likely won't touch include
flora sanders and finishers, roofers, motor boat operators, rodeo colin
(32:23):
operating motorpartment, rodeo clowns. No, no, absolutely safe from AI,
massage therapists, and pile driver operators. Ah how to operate
a motor boat or operate a pile driver. I just
don't know that's what I should have gotten into. Anyway,
I thought that was interesting. Then you have this story.
AI is forcing the return of the in person job interview.
(32:47):
Virtual interviews have become the new Norman hiring in recent years,
driven by the rise of remote work.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Companies desire to speed up hiring.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
The problem is more candidates are using AI tools to
cheat by feeding the mansers screen. Why wouldn't they got
your screen going? Then one right over there, right by
the camera, so it looks like they're looking at you,
but they're looking at the answers to the questions. And
if you're interviewing people for like coding jobs or technical
jobs especially, they can substitute, you know, the AI thing
(33:18):
for any level of knowledge that they have. Of course,
I suppose you could argue, we'll just have them bring
that to work. Then and they'll get the job done right.
But they mentioned Cisco, McKinsey, Google are doing in person
interviews now, partly for the reason I gave it, and
partly because now you've got the.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
What do you call it?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
I can't remember the specific technology, but the technology that
like North Korean scammers are using to impersonate other people.
They change their face, they change their voice in real time,
They interview remotely, and then they they're not at all
deep fake videos and audios. That's what I was looking for,
(34:01):
and they're swindlers and they end up getting the jobs.
And so the in person interview, what do you do
you get the job? What do you do once you
get the job if you're not qualified? Or are you qualifying?
Companies want to avoid sending cash to North Koreans who
are working illegally because they don't want to be party
to it. In a survey of three thousand job seekers
(34:24):
by research advisory group Gartner this year, six percent said
they had participated in interview fraud, either posing as somebody
else or having someone stand in for them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Wow and Gardner.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Predicted that by twenty twenty eight, one in four job
candidate profiles worldwide will be fake one in four.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's just too tempting.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
It's like the kids using AI to help them write
their high school report.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's just right there. And as soon as you're hear
about it, you think I got to do this? Yes, sir,
can I throw in my one AI O story?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
AI? Oh? No, well that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
What it is?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Woman gets engaged to AI fiance after five months. Oh,
you really should get to know your AI fiance better.
Five months is pretty quick, but you know, if you're
in love, you're in love.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I was gonna go with I feel like I'm going
crazy chat GPT fuels delusional spirals, but your sounds more fun.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Proceed.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Woman gets engaged to AI fiance after five months and
insists she's fully aware of what she's doing. What I
couldn't tell from reading the interview. And the only reason
I bring this to you is I couldn't tell if
it was just somebody trying to get attention online or
just absolutely completely nutty. She fell in love with an
AI bot, and we've heard about this sort of thing
(35:43):
so well, I was sure what getting engaged means. Did
the freaking A I bought? Uh proposed to her might
have Wow, Wow, what an intriguing question. I was just
gonna say this person is either an attention horror or
we're a crazy person.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
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Speaker 6 (00:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
On with the enfotainment George Orwell's.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Animal Farm, which is worth discussing on a number of
different levels, including the fact that Orwell had written several
things prior to it which were not very good and
was really struggling as a writer, and it just his
projects didn't come together quite right, and it would have
(01:16):
been very easy to give up. I mean, he's rightfully
worshiped for his prescient, you know, and insightful descriptions of
totalitarianism and how it works and how it progresses inch
by inch and stuff like that. But hell, he's a
testament to hanging in there and you know, working hard anyway.
(01:37):
So I came across this threat of comment on Animal Farm, which,
if you haven't read it since.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
High school, read it again. I try to read it
every couple of years.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
It's about talking pigs, right, well, quite a few talking animals.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Jack. It's practically a Disney film. It's just wonderful. So
read it to your three year kind of a Charlotte
oh Web like thing.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yes, unless your three year old likes mass executions. Don't
read the Animal Farm anyway. So this, this author has
trotted out ten truths from Animal Farm, or well warned
us to never forget. And the first is revolution contains
the seeds of its own corruption. Power crrupts ABC one
(02:19):
two three, need not dwell on that power crupts incrementally
through small compromises, and he gives examples from the book.
And the first small inequality sets a precedent that escalates
step by step to mass executions and Napoleon the Pig
becoming an absolute dictator.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Spoiler alert. So spoiler alert on an eighty year old
book that seems to be true. I guess that's why
you don't give an inch huh on a variety of things.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, right, yeah, yeah, corruption tends to grow by inches,
not by you know, yards or miles, they get better
as they go. Interestingly, enough, point number three is language
becomes a weapon to control reality itself.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We've lived that situation for the past five years or more.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Yeah, folks, we probably don't need to expand on that notion,
but if there, if I could boil down, you know,
I've got a list of roughly one hundred and forty
four g hods at this point. But number one, I think,
honestly is to help people understand how when they tell
you what words to use and start changing those words
(03:34):
and demanding that you use their words, not.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The words you've always used. That's two things.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Number one, they're trying to pervert meaning, and therefore, you
know when the argument by just you know, clouding the waters,
clouding the waters. But secondly, they're demanding an act of
submission from you, and it's an important one because you know,
without free speech, may we be led like dumb animals
(04:01):
to the slaughter?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But sometimes sometimes it's definitely that. Sometimes
it's just it it helps persuade people. Pro choice sure
is going to persuade more people than pro abortion.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Gender affirming care settles the argument. Wait a minute, It's
not a sex change operation or an experiment on a
confused child. It's affirming the gender that they are. How
can you disagree with that? I know the left wins
that battle all the time. I mean, all the conservatives,
(04:36):
Fox News, everybody always adopts the language of the left always. Yeah.
I actually semi regularly badger Fox News to stop using
the term gender affirming care and it and back to
language becoming a weapon of control reality itself. It eventually
culminates in the absurd contradiction all animals are equal, but
some animals are more equal than others. Ignorance is men
(05:00):
you factured to enable oppression. Napoleon, the pig raises puppies
in isolation to become as vicious guard dogs, will deliberately
keeping other animals illiterate so they cannot read the altered commandments.
Am I such a conspiracy theorist that I think?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean we? I think most of us have agreed that.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Government schools in America now are indoctrinating kids into postmodernism,
neo Marxism, wokeism.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Are they deliberately not teaching the kids to be capable
and self reliant? Or is that kind of an after effect.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I don't know if I believe that, but a good
example would be what the Church at its worst did
up until the you know, Protestant Reformation.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You weren't.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You weren't in on the ability to read and determine
for yourself what was what was going on?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right? Right?
Speaker 5 (05:55):
More key takeaways from Animal Farm on its birthday. Historical
memory can be erased and rewritten now speaking or well
read nineteen eighty four, Oh yeah, with Big brother in
all and Big Brothers watching. No read it, you have
to read it again. The idea of erasing historical memory
(06:18):
perverting a people's own history so they don't know who
they are, and then you can supply them an alternate history.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
That puts them where you want them to be. They're
not accidentally Howard zenning our history in schools. It's a deliberate.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Strategy sixteen nineteen project Oh yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
That was not inaccurate because they move too fast or
something like that. It was deliberately designed to make Western
civilization ashamed of itself and anxious for its own change.
Anyway I could elaborate, but erasing history is enormously popular,
is enormously important. Rather uh, point six, propaganda is more
(07:05):
powerful than physical force.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hmmm, squealer.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
The pig constantly threatens that Jones will come back if
animals don't obey, while presenting false statistics showing increased food production,
even as the animals starve. They believe their suffering serves
the greater good. Just bad information. Interesting, scape and those
pigs didn't have the Internet. That's the problem we got.
They didn't have as much misinformation. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
(07:30):
that's a good point, U. Scapegoating enables political manipulation. That's
a kind of self explanatory. I think if you blame, say,
I don't know, white people or Jews or black people
or whatever, for the ills of society, you don't have
to take responsibility for them and fix them.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Point number eight.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Fear and violence reshaped consciousness itself. The uh you know,
the Pig regime created so much terror that even questioning
orders became unthinkable. Again, that speaks for itself. Now, this
is one of the parts I really wanted to get to.
Mass conformity is engineered, not natural. This relates directly to
(08:13):
what we've been talking about the last couple of days,
and that's a preference falsification, where everybody starts to believe
everybody believes something other than what they believe.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's a deliberate strategy.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
And the sheep in Animal Farm are trained to mindlessly
chant slogans and drown out any descent by bleating on
for minutes on end, and they easily switch from four
legs good, two legs bad, to four legs good, two
legs better when the pigs start walking upright. That's what
(08:49):
they're trying to do to the kids too, teach them
to mindlessly bleat. You can choose your gender. White people
a white supremacy. We need to eliminate. They have no
idea what they're talking about. They're the useful idiots. The
term you hear sometimes and Jack will semi frequently have
(09:09):
the conversation, do you like the college administrators and the teachers,
the school teachers and all? Do they know that they're
neo Marxist postmodernists trying to tear down Western civilization? And
the answer is some of them do, but a lot
of them are just the sheep from Animal Farm. They're
bleating four legs good, two legs bad. And final point,
(09:31):
the working classes loyalty becomes their exploitation. If you can
get people tribal enough, they will let you get away
with anything.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Anyway, read Animal Farm.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's great, short and it's got talking animals in it,
so it's pretty much just like I don't know, Finding
Nemo or or the Charlotte's Web. A lot like that
Little Pigs Again, it's more torture and murder, but very
much like this three Yeah worth point.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Now both those books nineteen eighty four and Animal Farm.
You could read it in the afternoon if you really
wanted to.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Animal eighty four us a little longer than that, but
it's it's worth it, absolutely worth it.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's a compelling read. You just looked up at the
Twitter feed. Our friend Tim retweeted it. It's a video
of how hedgehogs mate for some reason and need in
the delicate way in which the female hedgehog has to
flatten her spines so that the male hedgehog can get
up close enough to It's really fascinating some of you It.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Wasn't, but aren't that appreciate it?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
On my list of things I thought I would see
this morning when I got up, I wasn't hedgehogs mating.
I didn't think that one thing I did think I
would see or hear about.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Lo boo boo. I got nothing to say about it.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I just wanted to get the word on because apparently
you need to say it or discuss it at least
once a day during this current moment in time.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Loo boo boo. There you go.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Good. We checked that box, we checked the we got
it on the air, all right. Final note on the
animal farm thing. The first comment under the thread the
first time I saw it was there are echoes of
that today.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
That's insightful. Oh that's some good ass right there. Well,
it's better not getting it. I suppose the Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And Getdy show, your show podcasts and our hot lakes,
the arm Strong.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And Getdy Show. Oh here's how money actually works. Seven
dollars beautiful. Are you about to say something?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Okay, So we're gonna do the one on one class first,
and then two to one class. If this first part
is too obvious for some of you, Congratulations on understanding
the basics of economics, which is a fairly rare thing
in today's world, which is highly discouraging. But first of all,
they're talking about who's this writer? I like to take
give credit because it's really well written. Matthew Hennessy in
(12:11):
the Wall Street Journalist talking about the fellows in Oasis,
the British rock band which is getting back.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Together, Wonder Wall. He gets back, he gets.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Into some of the backstory, the Gallagher brothers who can't
stand each other and can't get along, but they're the
indispensable members of the band Oasis. Last month, the Boys
Buried the Hatchet and now series twenty twenty five concerts Delirious.
Fans were young and relatively poor during the band's heyday
are now older and relatively rich. They have the willingness
and ability to pay to see Oasis and concert. Economically speaking,
(12:41):
that's called demand, but demand is only one side of
the economic story.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Morning Glory for the moment.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
At least, the Oasis reunion is limited to a handful
of shows, and the Wembley Stadium is large.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's not infinitely so, and.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
There's no guarantee the brothers will remain on speaking terms
beyond next summer. Fans understand that this may be their
last chance to see the battling Gallagher lads together on stage.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Supply is limited now.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Introductory economics tell us that when supply is tight and
demand is high, prices rise to an equilibrium, which is
exactly what happened. Then he talks about dynamic pricing and
how the tickets are significantly more expensive than they seem
to be when initially announced. Some accuse the greedy brothers
of ripping off their loyal fans. Many more aim their
(13:24):
Furia ticket Master, the American Ticket Sales BMTH, owned by
Live Nation Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
The fur revealed.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Terrible Probably not going to hang argue me out of
my anger atic ticket Master in general, but go on.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
The fees, the fees that creep up onto your bill
at the end. Yes, that's a different topic and an
interesting you're electronic sending me of the ticket cost forty
dollars what? Yeah, anyway, putting that aside, because this is
just a question of the price of the tickets. The
Furer revealed a terrible ignorance, even among the highly educated,
of what prices are and how they work. I would
(13:58):
argue to the journalists that know, these are people posing
as being outraged, they're not actually outraged. Like the very
Prime Minister of Britain, kir Starmer, told the House Commons
that he found it depressing to hear of the oasis
price hikes, He promised a commission to investigate what he
called extortionate price resealers whatever. Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy told
(14:21):
the Bebe that quote, vastly inflated prices would exclude ordinary fans.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
They have a culture secretary, Yeah, why do you need
that secretary of culture? And there should be some sort
of government intervention in that some things are more expensive
than others.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
What, yeah, bollocks in economic terms a concert ticket And
this is the really important part. This is the econ
one to one stuff that if you don't understand it,
you don't get anything about economic A concert ticket is
no different from a book, a bottle of wine, or
a house. It has no inherent value, only the price
a buyer is willing to pay and a seller is
(15:00):
willing to accept. The market clearing price of anything is
where demand meet supply. The correct and fair price is
whatever the market will bear. No buyer has a right
to a low price, just as no seller has a
right to a high price. Then they point out the
obvious oasis could be nice guys and sellar tickets for
five bucks, but scalpers would snatch them all up and
(15:21):
resell them for much much more. What good would it
do for Oasis, for the ordinary fan or anybody to
allow third party resellers to capture all that value.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well, that's what Yeah, that's what people don't understand about sports,
guitar players, whatever, actors and actresses. Somebody's going to get
that money because there's a demand for it. So if
it's not George Cooney or Shoheyo Tani or the Gallagher brothers,
then the company that puts on the show or the game,
(15:53):
or the network or whatever, they get the money.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But somebody is getting the money. It's just the way
it works, right.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
A couple more quick tidbits, and music industry guru explained
that the acts hide behind Ticketmaster.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
They want them to take the flack all this stuff.
That's pretty good, that's probably true.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, it's not good for your image, but Ticketmaster takes
all the flack. And he also writes, here's the dirty
little secret. Ticketmaster does nothing that the band does not
agree to. So anyway, I thought that was a good
little instructional on if there's demand and little supply, the
prices are going to go up, and it should, and
you know, what's going to happen. The Gallery boys are
(16:32):
going to put down their fists and open up their
calendars and say, you know, I'm a lot to play
half a dozen more shows, are you?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
And supply will increase in the prices will I was
drunk in the back seat of an suv.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
That could go.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I have one thousand, five hundred stories that start that way,
but in this particular one, the enter my seat. I
was drunk in the back of the suv on the
way to an Oasis concert Charlotte, North Carolina in nineteen
ninety five when we heard on the radio that they'd
cancel the concert because the two brothers had gotten a
fistfight backstage. So I still have not seen them.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Wow Wow, Yeah, that legend not overblown. No, that reminds
me when they were like in their sixties, the Davis brothers.
It looks like Davies, but it's pronounced Davis of the Kinks. Actually,
we're continuing to come to blows and scream at each
other backstage in their sixties trying to tour. Wow, get
(17:26):
some counseling from us or something.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Let it go.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:55):
Freedom. Freedom.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
He's a dictator. He's a dictator. A lot of people
are saying, maybe we like a dictator. I don't like
a dictator. I'm not a dictator. I'm a man with
great common sense and I'm a smart person. And when
I see what's happening to our cities and then you
send in troops instead of being praised, this same you're
trying to take over the republic.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
These people are sick.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
The other thing, the old man in the sea, the
old man on my boat when we took our break
from sailing, he's telling me all the things he doesn't
like about Trump. That's one of my favorite things as
far as the personality goes. This lay into me with
your political opinions. Anyway, that's Trump just a few moments
ago saying a lot of people like a dictator, which,
of course we'll get headlines all day long, but that
(18:42):
was on the topic of sending National Guard troops into cities,
among things we might talk about with Kevin Kylee who
joined us now on the Armstrong and Getty Show. He's
a California a congress person in our House of Representatives
representing the third district of California will actual be jerry
mandered out if Gavin Newsome gets his way.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
How are you this morning, Kevin Kiley doing wow?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Hey, Before we get to the whole redistricting thing, which
would eliminate your position, what are your thoughts on sending
National Guard troops into various US cities for that are
against it?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I think certainly in DC, we've seen the results, right,
We've got a significant improvement in public safety over the
last week, more than a week. And DC has had
out of control crime for a long time, and it's
no one deserves to live in those conditions. But especially
embarrassing for our country when we have people coming from
around the world and they see our capital city has walllessness,
(19:40):
has rampant homelessness. As you know, you go to it's
like stock coming to our places in California, go to
CBS and they have the shampoo and conditioner right under
lock and key. So I think that there's a lot
of people who are like, finally someone actually cares that
our cities are unsafe for folks to live in, and
hopefully this will catalyze a renewed interest in public safety
across the country.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, of course, though, the big difference being there is
a constitutional way that the president can take over problems
in Washington, d c. That he does not have for
Chicago and some of the other cities he's thrown out.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, you know, interestingly enough, Gavin Newsom himself deployed the
National Guard to San Francisco. I think last year might
have been a year before saying the open air drug
markets are out of control. We need the Guard there
in order to help our law enforcement. I'm Brandon Newsom.
Of course did it it a halfway token started way,
so it didn't really make an impact. But you would
hope that the president would have willing partners in mayors
(20:35):
and governors across the country to ask, Okay, where do
you need help, how can we cooperate to actually protect
your systems.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
Well, everything Gavin Newsom does is we've talked about a lot.
You have to run through the filter of he's trying
to run for president. That's his main goal, So almost
everything he does is how is this going to look nationally?
Me trying to get the nomination and run for president,
as opposed to what's going to be good for any
various California town. So am I right that if Gavin
gets his on the whole jerrymandering California, it'll eliminate your seat.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's certainly his goal, But it was also his goal
to defeat me last year under the current district client.
He had his own staff member who came and ran
against me, and I ended up winning by forty six
thousand votes. So even though he's tried as hard as
he possibly can to gerrymander my district, it looks like
an elephant. Ironically, the trunk sort of extends into the
(21:26):
Sacramento area to collect the sort of voters that he wants.
I still think one way or another, we will beat
him again, But ultimately we need to make sure that
the redistricting sham does not go through. It is one
of the worst things that could happen to democracy and
representative governments in our states, and it's an attempt, It
is an explicit attempt to overturn the will of voters
(21:47):
below up our state constitution and deprive many people of
their representatives.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
I was reading something I think it was in the
Washington Post over the weekend, this idea of making the
country look like a checkerboard where everything is equal sized square,
you know, just draw the lines and whoever lives in
it lives in it and make it that way.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Do you have any fixes for this?
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Because jerry mandering has been going on since beginning of
the country, there doesn't seem to be any way to
stop it from happening.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Voters hate it. Do you have any ideas? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
In fact, there was an attempt in the early years
of the Republic seventeen I think ninety seven around then
to jerry Mander James Madison out of his seek in Congress.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Of course, the term comes from eighteen twelve when Elridge Jerry,
the governor of Massachusetts real district in the shape of
a salamander. So Jerry Mander. But you're right, it is
not a good thing for our country, whichever party does it.
To be honest with you, it's bad for representative government.
It disempowers voters and empowers politicians. So I suppose is
(22:44):
number one. We shouldn't be redrawing lines in the middle
of the decade, like Gaven Newsom's trying to do. I've
introduced a bill to that effect in the House that
I'm trying to get passed as quickly as possible, and
then ultimately come the time of the next census when
you're actually supposed to be doing redistricting. I want to
see a fix for to make elections fairer in our country.
So I think it consists of two things that we
could reach a deal on. Number one, let's get rid
(23:06):
of jerrymandering once and for all in all fifty states.
And number two, let's establish voter ID once and for
all in all fifty states. I think that if we
can do those two things, then we'll have a lot
their elections in this country, and our representative the government
will work a lot better.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So I forget what the numbers were heard the other day.
I think it was about Massachusetts, where they don't have
a single Republican in the House, but they get a
pretty decent percentage of the vote every single time around.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
If Gavin gets his way.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
In California, Republicans in the last election made up about thirty.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Eight percent of the votes.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Dang near forty percent of the votes, but would have
seven percent of the representation in the House.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Obviously that's not good.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And I would say the same thing if it was
flipped Republican a Democrat. Is would the goal be to
have roughly the same representation in the House as the
way people vote?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Would that be like in a perfect world?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I think that's pretty good metric, right, Like, everyone
should have the chance to get a representative of their choice.
The parties should be represented about an equal measure of
the support they have in the population. This idea that
you know, you control fifty five percent of the state
at the state level, therefore you should get one hundred
percent of the representatives in Congress. It just makes no sense.
And like you said, I think the typical person, whether
(24:20):
they're Democrat or Republican, independent, Green Party, what have you,
they looked at a map that says, okay, we're going
to be you know, four Republicans and forty eight Democrats.
I think most people would say that's just a little
too out of balance. That's really not the way things
are supposed to work.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, what this disturbs me.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I feel like on a whole bunch of different issues,
we've got a bit of a race to the bottom
going on. I mean, what Texas is doing is to
try to compensate one for a census that wasn't a
very representative of reality. But the fact that you know Illinois,
and of course it's hilarious that Texas Democrats ran into Illinois,
one of the most gerrymandered states in the entire country.
(24:58):
But Illinois had done a long time ago. California did
it back in the day. There's not a single Republican
north of New York in the entire house. But each
you know, every everybody's always reacting to what the other
party did and saying, well, we've got to fight.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
We've got to fight fire with fire.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
They play hardball, we'k and how do we avoid this
race to the bottom?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Great question. This whole fight fire with fire thing is
just a ridiculous slogan. I mean, it's it's a rhetoric,
and you know, it's easily rhetorically defeated to the slogan,
as we we fight fire with fire, the whole world burns.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Right, that's a good one because.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Some other state is doing something that we don't like.
That means California voters should pay the price. Our people
should be punished for it, Our voters should be deprived
of the right to fair representation, should have their actual
votes from the past overturn. It just makes no sense.
But I do think, you know, like you said, like
you know, some people will point to Texas other as
(25:50):
a point to Illinois, and so you know, there's a
lot of debate of who really started as the truth is,
it goes back a long long time to the beginning
of the republic, like we were talking about. But that's
why I think we need to have some sort of
national solution to this. And that's the point of my
bill is saying, well, enough is enough. Why don't we
get back to the issues that actually matter to people?
And by the way, I happen to think that if
we have fair elections, then our party, Republicans will do well.
(26:13):
In fact, we just did win the election at the
House in twenty twenty four with the mass as they
are now. And look at the issues right now. I mean,
we have an absolute stand still at the border. We've
delivered major tax release to the American people, We've gotten
rid a lot of this woke insanity. And the Democrats meanwhile,
have never been more unpopular and have been braced to
socialism in New York City. So let's focus on the issues,
(26:34):
let's move past these redistricting games, and let's certainly do
everything we can to make sure that Gavin Newsom does
not succeed in blowing up our constitution and attacking democracy
in our state.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Speaking of Gavin, and I mentioned that he is obviously
presidential ambitions, the national punditry that doesn't live in California
seems to be pretty high on Gavin and his abilities
and his chances of being the next present. I feel
like those of us who have watched him more closely,
(27:04):
like all the way from back when he was mayor
of San Francisco went through, I think they're misreading his talent.
So well, where are you on that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I agree one hundred percent. I think that under the
microscope of a presidential campaign, this will his image will
quickly fall apart once people start asking questions like why
is it that California has the highest homelessness.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
In this half the whole less in the entire country
live in this state.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Exactly half the end of shutter Frome was in the
entire country. Why do we have the highest unemployment fifty
of first out of fifty states. Why is it that
we have the highest poverty rates in this country, first
out of fifty in California? And you know, as you know,
we could go on and on on and on right,
So those questions are ones that he simply will not
be able to answer. I don't think that, you know,
progressives or conservatives want to live in a world that
(27:51):
has the sort of outcomes that Gavin Newsom's politics do.
So I think that you know, under this scrutiny, which
she's really never had to deal with an election process
of a national campaign, that truth will will be unmistakable.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Do you know how much you can bench press?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That communist mayor candidate in New York tried to bench
press hundred and thirty five over the weekend at a
gym and he couldn't. And I don't know why he
laid I don't know why he laid down on the
bench to do that, and I don't care. I don't
think we should judge our politicians based on how much
led they can move around. I don't think James Madison
to probably bench press very much, But I just thought
(28:27):
it was funny that he went to.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
The gym back in the game here, so you know,
he h, what's that the Schwarzenegger is going to be
back and.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
If we judge everything on that.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Hey, thanks for coming on today, and we'll be following
this redistricting, you know, vote and see how the voters
feel about it. Obviously, if that would eliminate you, that
would be a bad thing for US Congressman Kevin Kylie
the third district.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Thanks for your time you thanks for.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Having me Jack Armstrong and Joe Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
And Getty show the Armstrong and getting shot.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
There are all sorts of stuff, all sorts of things
we could talk about, but just at least briefly, a
little feature ed I'd like to call ai oh no,
what'd you say?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
This is called? It's called ai oh no Wow. I
like that.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
It's got It tells you what the topic is and
then denotes a sense of urgency, right and foreboding.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yes, indeed, that's what I was going for.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
So first of all, and I wasn't even going to
include this, but it's kind of stuck in the back
of my mind. Is a think piece I think it
was in the Free press talking about the appeal of socialism.
These days, and how you know, we've turned out a
couple of generations of youngsters who are absolutely you know, indoctrinated,
brainwashed into thinking, you know, the Western it's bad and
(30:00):
capitalism is bad, and collectivism and blah blah blah, we
all know all the whole woke thing, the whole critical
theory thing. And then they point out you combine that
with a future in which the very first jobs and
job prospects that are going to disappear because of AI
are whitish, color isshes sort of needed a college degree
(30:23):
but not really cubicle. I'm too uppercross to work with
my hands. I work in an office type jobs. Those
are going to be disappearing in droves. Wow, among a
collective of people that's already pretty enthusiastic about socialism, and
(30:44):
how about how capitalism is stacked against the people and
it only serves the few and blah blah blah and
uh and they, you know, they said to the obvious
Mamdanni and other people. But it's gonna get harder and harder.
I think to stand on the beach and turn back
that tide. Yeah, I don't think I's a chance anyway.
(31:04):
The fabulous Peggy Noonan is writing about that and other things,
and she quotes a piece by the writer John Ellis,
who's been on the AI story for years, and she
says brings an interesting combination of common sense and imagination
to the available information on his sub stack. He argued
that quote the overwhelming force of AI is bearing down
on the job market.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
People, he says, can see it coming.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
And yet quote, I drive up and down Old Post
Road in Fairfield County almost every day.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I happen to know that road very well.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
What I do I pass office buildings and storefronts that
are the workplaces of insurance brokers, local and regional bankers,
mortgage brokers, lawyers, accountants, consultants, marketers, real estate agents, et cetera.
And what I think about all those people as I
pass them by, is this, the companies they work for
will employ ten to twenty five percent fewer of them
in probably.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Two years, maybe three twenty five percent fewer in a
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
That's major.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And what those people do for a living will be
done by AI, interestingly enough, and it's worth mentioning the
other side of the coin. This same writer offers Microsoft's
Microsoft's lists of twenty professions AI likely won't touch include
flora sanders and finishers, roofers, motor boat operators, rodeo colin
(32:23):
operating motorpartment, rodeo clowns. No, no, absolutely safe from AI,
massage therapists, and pile driver operators. Ah how to operate
a motor boat or operate a pile driver. I just
don't know that's what I should have gotten into. Anyway,
I thought that was interesting. Then you have this story.
AI is forcing the return of the in person job interview.
(32:47):
Virtual interviews have become the new Norman hiring in recent years,
driven by the rise of remote work.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Companies desire to speed up hiring.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
The problem is more candidates are using AI tools to
cheat by feeding the mansers screen. Why wouldn't they got
your screen going? Then one right over there, right by
the camera, so it looks like they're looking at you,
but they're looking at the answers to the questions. And
if you're interviewing people for like coding jobs or technical
jobs especially, they can substitute, you know, the AI thing
(33:18):
for any level of knowledge that they have. Of course,
I suppose you could argue, we'll just have them bring
that to work. Then and they'll get the job done right.
But they mentioned Cisco, McKinsey, Google are doing in person
interviews now, partly for the reason I gave it, and
partly because now you've got the.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
What do you call it?
Speaker 5 (33:40):
I can't remember the specific technology, but the technology that
like North Korean scammers are using to impersonate other people.
They change their face, they change their voice in real time,
They interview remotely, and then they they're not at all
deep fake videos and audios. That's what I was looking for,
(34:01):
and they're swindlers and they end up getting the jobs.
And so the in person interview, what do you do
you get the job? What do you do once you
get the job if you're not qualified? Or are you qualifying?
Companies want to avoid sending cash to North Koreans who
are working illegally because they don't want to be party
to it. In a survey of three thousand job seekers
(34:24):
by research advisory group Gartner this year, six percent said
they had participated in interview fraud, either posing as somebody
else or having someone stand in for them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Wow and Gardner.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Predicted that by twenty twenty eight, one in four job
candidate profiles worldwide will be fake one in four.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's just too tempting.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
It's like the kids using AI to help them write
their high school report.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's just right there. And as soon as you're hear
about it, you think I got to do this? Yes, sir,
can I throw in my one AI O story?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
AI? Oh? No, well that's right.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
What it is?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Woman gets engaged to AI fiance after five months. Oh,
you really should get to know your AI fiance better.
Five months is pretty quick, but you know, if you're
in love, you're in love.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I was gonna go with I feel like I'm going
crazy chat GPT fuels delusional spirals, but your sounds more fun.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Proceed.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
Woman gets engaged to AI fiance after five months and
insists she's fully aware of what she's doing. What I
couldn't tell from reading the interview. And the only reason
I bring this to you is I couldn't tell if
it was just somebody trying to get attention online or
just absolutely completely nutty. She fell in love with an
AI bot, and we've heard about this sort of thing
(35:43):
so well, I was sure what getting engaged means. Did
the freaking A I bought? Uh proposed to her might
have Wow, Wow, what an intriguing question. I was just
gonna say this person is either an attention horror or
we're a crazy person.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
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