November 25, 2024 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of the Monday, November 25 ,2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay features..
- Inflation
- Dems Young Men
- Space X
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong and Jetty and he arm Strong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And here's a headline in the New York Times. Inflation
is basically back to normal. Why do voters still feel blah, wow,
that is just profoundly ignorant. I don't understand. I couldn't
believe that reporters didn't get this at the beginning of
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the conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm nonplussed about how they can still not get this.
Let me read the opening paragraph from the New York Times.
Can person Grocery inflation has been cooling sharply, but Tamarra
Flamer twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Says she hasn't noticed.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What she knows is that paper plates and meat remained
more expensive than they were a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, you freaking morons.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You don't notice a decrease in the increase of prices.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It would be impossible. Nobody would do of the rate.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yes, nobody would notice a slowing of the rate of inflation.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's impossible to notice. It's just a it's a dumb concept. Yeah,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It goes on the lingering. Pessimism is something of a puzzle,
says The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is it? Is it? Really? Do you know a single
normal human being?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You must not, or you would hear people say I
went to Wendy's last night and it cost sixty bucks
for me and the kids, or I.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Filled up with gas yesterday. I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
People do it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Or let me stop you there, Jim, let me stop
you there.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Now Wendy's went from fifty two dollars to sixty dollars
in the course of seventeen months. Now it's only gone
from sixty to sixty two.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Dollars in the course of the last nine months.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So as you can see, inflation is cooling a Janner
Hamburger right.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
In your face if you tried that to somebody, what
did band these people?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where do they live? Mars? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And like I said, do you not have a single
normal friend? Not one in your circle? Whoever walks in
and say, you know, at a party and says, man,
I stop by the legerastore, I got this bottle of wine.
It used to be eight bucks, now it's fifteen. I
can't believe it. That's reality for everyone. But people who
write economics stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's not. There's more on this.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The lingering pessimism is something of a puzzle, which makes
you a moron. The job market has been chugging along,
overall growth has been healthy, and inflation is back to normal.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's here. How is that a puzzle?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Things cost more, way more than they did not very
long ago.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Period, you morons.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And let me speak for thousands and thousands of people
listening right now.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The job market is hot.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, I've still got one job, or I used to
have one, I still have one, and my money, my
wages have not kept up with inflation, not even close.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So and then I'll shut up about this because it's
you know, I'm belaboring the.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Point, but I just it's I actually can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I find it difficult to believe that the journalists who
cover the economy are still saying this crap five days.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Out from a presidential election that Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Is set to win, maybe mainly because of the price
of stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They don't get it. I don't understand. Inflation's back to normal. God,
you're so dumb. I don't even know where to start
with you here.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You are belaboring the point, which points to arise in
the belaboring statistics like that the labor mark.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You just can't be stopped today with your word play anyway.
You're just a non stop fountain.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Of wordplay, like an ego Montoya over here of my words.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I don't know what you call the subheadline halfway
through an article that's in bold or what.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't know what do you call those things?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But anyway, it says here consumers may focus more on
price levels than price changes. Okay, all right, well that's
that's correct. Yes, yes, it is incorrect and obvious to
anyone over the age of five. Yes, good look, I
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can't I'm reeling from that one. You know, I thought
it was the beating was about over, and you caught
me right in the gyms with that. I mean, consumers
worry more about fing prices than the rate of e
fing change, which they can't observe day to day because
they're busy with the real lives.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh, it's so funny. So I mentioned as a target.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The other day, I get my normal allotment of stuff
and it's two one hundred dollars. This is the first
time it's ever open over two hundred dollars, and I
said to the guy, two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
He said, yeah, I know everybody reacts that way.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And I should have said to the guy, Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa, back off, buddy. The rate of change is lower,
all right. The percentage increases lower than it was before,
so you take it down a notch. I guess I
should be happy that it's two hundred dollars because it's
totally gone up two percent in the last month as
opposed to the you know, between three and nine percent
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for the previous three years.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think that that that illustrates this case so beautifully.
I mean, that would be absurdest humor for you to
say that to the cashier. And yet that is essentially
the inverse of what they're claiming with straight facing The
New York Times. Oh, speaking of which, I'm so glad
you brought this up, because I've been sitting on this
for a while. Dave in Baltimore, I think, yeah, Dave
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and Baltimore sent us this and the title of the
New York Times articles speaking of the old Gray Lady
is which appears to be a senilist Joe Biden when
it writes about economics is wages have been outpaced. I'm sorry,
let me do this again. The words are important. Wages
have outpaced inflation, but not for everyone. And here is
one of my favorite couple of sentences in the history
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of my reading newspapers. The bottom line, most American workers
are probably making more money today adjusted for inflation than
they were in twenty nineteen, but not all have seen
their pay keep up with their own cost of living,
and many, perhaps most, are lagging behind where they would
be if pre pandemic trends had continued unabated. These complications
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may help explain why so many Americans believe they have
fallen behind.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They have fallen behind. Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The New York Times is saying most Americans are making
more money today adjusted for inflation than they were pre pandemic.
I have seen that statistic nowhere. I don't see how
that's impossible. They're wrong on the fact. But the second part,
which I've read a couple of times so I will
parse for you, is claiming that in spite of that
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fact that y'all and we are making more money adjusted
for inflation, bacon is easier to buy for.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Us than it was pre pandemic. We're going out to
eat and spending.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Less relative to our incomes than we were a while ago.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But in spite of that.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Because we have somehow projected in our heads where we
would be twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four if the
inflation hadn't been so high for several years, we're coming
up with some sort of fanciful Yes, bacon is easily
affordable right now, but it would be even more easily
affordable if not for the inflation of twenty twenty one
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through twenty twenty four. And I'm thinking, well, back to
your question, do you know any human beings have.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You spoken with them? That is?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That is blindness that goes beyond galling and is absolutely
in the realm of amazing, And I would like to
hear scientists explain it.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Here's a director of consumer surveys at the University of
Michigan in the same New York Times article. It's not
that consumers have lost touch with reality. It's just at
high prices continue to weigh down their personal finances. Thank
you for having you're a professor. I'm glad you're a
university professor because none of us regular people could figure
that out at all, and then they.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
beIN of medicine at the University of Michigan said, don't
jam sharp objects into your eye.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Where was your article from your nonsensical article? New York Times,
New York Times. Yeah, so this says wages have climbed
faster than prices for many consumers.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, how many?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Not very I don't know anybody who got enough of
a raise over the last several years to put them
even even, let alone ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know anybody.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, this is the first time I've ever heard anybody
claim that, and it's a couple of times in the
New York Times when you had to that's the narrative.
Wouldn't you had to have gotten like a twenty percent
raise since twenty nineteen to keep up with the overall
prices stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean we could go on, because they quote
a couple of more Harvard economists who study how people
experience inflation.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You need you all, all of you, all, all y'all,
as they say in the South, all y'all need to
hang around any normal human beings, go down to your
corner bar and have a conversation with some people, or
turn to someone at a you know, a high school
basketball game. Talk to any normal human being. All right,
somebody who doesn't work for the New York Times live
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in Manhattan is a childish catwoman with an advanced degree.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And see what think about prices?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I tell you what, If you can bag this rare game,
it would be rarer than having a panda head on
your wall.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, wow, you find somebody to your house and you
got a panda head on your wall? Do I pretend
I don't see it? I say, hey, Jim, I can't help,
but notice.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm I'm wondering what other as that person's up to me?
Was that they'll do anything? Was that pad live at
one point? This is rarer game.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Still, you go down to the corner bar to this
the soccer game, waiting for kids in line at school,
and you find the person who says, in response to
my god, prices are so high it's still shocking. They say, yes,
but the rate of increase has slowed, and that's what's important.
You bag that rare game, and I will salute you
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a mighty hunter.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
In the Strong Congetti Show.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
This is from a guy I don't know, journalist in Australia. Dude,
Nobody on the left knows how to speak to young
men because every five seconds this has had why so
many young men voted for Trump and are moving away
from the Democratic Party, where the younger people used to
all flock to the Democrats. Nobody on the left knows
how to speak to young men because every five seconds
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at a leftist meeting, you have to either do a
land acknowledgment, or go around in a circle and pay
homage to the power of queer joy or some crap.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He actually says, yes, it's briefly.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I know this because I used to be a socialist,
and this is how all these organizations act.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I saw all this with my own eyes.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You have to literally be self flagellating to be in
the left as a young man these days, and this
is probably the understanding and experience in perspective of ninety
percent of young men. The feeling is that you have
to always constantly apologize for effing existing and just the
crime of being born. And this is why the right
is so effective at hoovering all these people up, because
the experience of constant self flagellation and self criticism is
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effing exhausting and annoying. And nobody wants to wake up
every day feeling like they are an a s person
just for the crime of being born.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I like that. Amen to that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
He also goes on, we have to fix this because
I hate watching young guys fall into the Andrew Tait masculinity,
and then he goes through a couple of examples of that.
Because they got nowhere to turn to, They're going to
these like super over the top extremist weirdos just to
find somebody that's you know, appealing to them and not criticize, Yeah,
not criticizing them for being a man. This is an
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existential threat for the Left and even an existential threat
for humanity itself, because the end result if we don't
fix these gender warfare dynamics is South Korea style gender
hyper war and a total fertility rate of point four
and humanity just gets wiped out. That is absolutely I mean,
that is absolutely true. On the left, if you're going
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to continue to make U males feel bad about even
being born, you're not gonna win a lot of elections.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Or ever get that crowd.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
My heart bleeds for the little boys in public schools
or continually treated as if their maleness is a defect.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I know, it's horrorbies.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It's their energy, their boundless energy is a misbehavior. Oh,
I just you want to get me going.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
God.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I came across some schoolwork the other day and my uh,
my son is homeschooled. But so much of the teaching
material out there is put out there by publishing companies
that are so left I mean, you really have to
work at getting the right stuff. But anyway, this particular
thing was all about how women can be doctors.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know, freaking kidding.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
At this point in my life, when somebody says the
doctor will see you, I assume.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's going to be a woman. I'm surprised if it's
a man. So what do you what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You won?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow? That's just again a head scratcher. What wow? Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I thought I would feel differently after the election.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I thought there would be.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At the very least fairly widespread recognition to some of
the simple realities of the thing, which is that Kamala
Harris was a weak candidate, always was weak candidate. Is
that putting it out before hapes? You all rejected her,
as I said, like a rabbit raccoon when she was
in the primary was that sexism and racism when you
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did that, well, I haven't no. Okay, Well, then when
the same thing happened the presidential election, why is your
explanation completely different?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That is funny that that has never really been put
to anybody. Your party rejected her when she ran before,
not like right wing, your own party, like the most
active people in your party. Primary voters said no to
her before she even got to the first contest. So wow,
how is it shocking that she got rejected by a
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larger group of people?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
And it's become a so oft observed fact, it's a truism.
It's working its way toward being a cliche that when
Kamala Harris on the View then Colbert? Was it Colbert
or Kimmel, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Could not say how she would be different than the
extremely unpopular Biden administration. That that was one of the
most pivotal political moments in any campaign. I mean, that
is so widely discussed right now, there's no point in
bringing it up.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Everybody knows it. But as I was reading the.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Long top tier editorial writer editorial writers of the Washington
Post dialogue about what happened, how did we get this
result that didn't come up.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I haven't seen any criticism of Kamala Harris as a
candidate from the left at all. Maybe that's coming. I
don't know. But I have seen more than I have
ever seen before, and more than I expected of people
saying we have Democrats have gone too far down the
road of progressiveness in the culture wars. I have seen
a fair amount of that. Yes, yeah, yeah, your.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Old school liberals are finally finding the courage or the
cover to stand up and say, hey, y'all, all that
stuff is madness.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Which, by the way, is the way you win the
political arguments. That's when you've won. That's a good Other
side of it would be on gay marriage, where you know,
if you're old enough to remember this whole battle and
discussion in America, it got to the point to where
Republicans realized we got to stop being anti gay marriage.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's just a losing issue. I mean, we just can't
be and you stop talking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And hopefully that's going to start on the left with
the you know, boys playing girls' sports or all kinds
of different things, where they realize this is we're gonna lose.
We nobody wants to hear this or not enough people
want to hear this right right, Our academic left wing
is just completely wildly out of touch with Americans. That
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latinex and herstry Herkstreet and that sort of stuff is.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Insane, absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Are Strong the Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
President Elect Trump with Elon Musk in Texas there for
the sixth test launch of the SpaceX starship meant to
eventually take humans to the Moon and Mars. The launch
itself successful, the booster even detaching as it's supposed to,
but then SpaceX seeing some issue with the booster booster
offshore divert Unfortunately, that means that we are our no
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go for the catch. It was supposed to land back
in Texas, but to save it from potentially destroying the
SpaceX launch facility or endangering lives on land, the booster's
shifting course and heading to the Gulf instead for a splashdack.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So they didn't catch this rocket with them. What does
he call it?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
The megasuthan or other is what he calls the giant
arm that catches the rocket booster.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I still feel like.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The media has not caught on to the way Elon
looks at these things.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
The whole fail fast theory or there's no fast and
learn faster, isn't that?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
In this thing which you can apply to your own life,
I've tried to apply it to mine. Is just there's
no such thing as failure. It's just information. Okay, I
tried this, this is the result. There's information about so
now I'll try to try it this way right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Failure will ever hold you back. Fear of failure is crippling.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And Elon expressed again yesterday that he plans to have
a rocket reach Mars in twenty twenty six. Now he
promises a lot of things, it often comes up short.
I think that's part of his whole success thing. Is
he he hits he sets aggressive deadlines.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeahs over understrives.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
No, But I mean if he's if he's off by
several years, that'd be quite amazing. I hope it happens
in my lifetime. What just a stunning thing to even
think about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And this isn't aside and we'll dig into this more
thoroughly later on, but compare that idea of we're gonna
set a goal that's probably not reachable, but we're gonna
go nuts trying to get there. Who's in compared to
government right where I'd like to see that memo filled
out by the end of the months.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
There's seven of you working.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Have we run that through the Environmental Agency to make
sure we're not a foul of any this or that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Have the application done by next March.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So speaking of mankind and the amazing thing that Homo
sapiens have been into outer space and are going to
go further and further versus many of the other humans
that have existed on planet Earth that didn't make it
out of the Stone Age?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So you might be familiar with the book Sapiens that
came out several years back. It was a big giant
hit and it's just a fascinating freaking book. But I'd
only read the first chapter before, and I'm into the
deeper chapters. At one time, there were six different kinds
of humans existing on the planet at the same time,
and it's still not completely known why Homo sapiens this
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is what we are, emerged and all the other ones
didn't make it. But one of the genocide against my people,
the Neanderthals.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Could be or all kinds of different things could happen.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
But one of the beliefs is, and I've never heard
this before, is Homo sapiens are the only beast that
has ever existed on Earth that can believe fictions. And
uh and and fully embraced them. And I didn't quite
understand what he meant by fictions when he started in
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But he uses all different kinds of examples.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
For instance, and if you're a religious person, you will
be bothered by him using the word fiction. But he
doesn't mean fiction as in uh fake, as much. Is
it something that's in your mind. I'll start with this
and said before I get to religion.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Uh. Money, money is a fiction. I mean it is
it is. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You you take a piece of paper, It doesn't it's
just a piece of paper. So you have to have
all the belief that goes in with a five dollars
bill of what what the value of it is, how
it's backed up by the US government, how it can
be exchanged for something. And then you give the five
dollars bill to somebody at the store who also believes
the fiction of this piece of paper, and so you
can trade goods and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No other beast.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Probably no other human ever had the mental ability to
do that, so you couldn't trade. For instance, some might
prefer the term abstraction. Maybe yeah, you know, maybe that
would be better.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Believing something or understanding it in the abstract, but yeah,
what an interesting principle.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Same with the idea of a nation.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So Homo sapiens could and do band together over the
idea of a nation, a country, a belief, a culture
that's worth fighting for, and so you can get a
very large number of people together to fight for it.
It seems that every other animal, including apes, you use
the example of sometimes apes do want to take another group,
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you know, apes, territory because they think they got better
mangos over there or whatever. But they can't do it
more than a very large group because it's over a
very specific thing. The mangoes. As opposed to being able
to band together millions of people over an idea of
fiction or whatever you want to call it, an idea
of we are a nation, no animal has shown the
ability to do that, and they think perhaps Neanderthals or
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homoerectus or any of the other humans couldn't do that.
A contrast, they couldn't buy into a concept like that.
So you're not going to have like West Side of
the Rainforest apes kick ass manasiders, they're not even real apes,
right right, So, and the same with refuse me apes,
and the same with creating a religion that you buy
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into that you could all band together around and protect
yourself in very very large groups in a way that
no other animal or human has ever been able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And I think that's a fascinating thing to think about.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's what separates us from all other living creatures on Earth.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Perhaps that's as good a definition or distinction as I
have ever come across. Yeah, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I too, started that book in kind of an interested way.
I need to dive back into it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's amazing how much is not known. That's one of
the things that's really stuck out to me. There's a
lot of guessing going on in that field, and many
many others.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So Lex Friedman had on a guy the other day
who's kind of like an out there, controversial sort of
anthropologist dude who has a belief that there was a
major lost civilization somewhere on planet Earth that we haven't
discovered yet. That explains the giant leap from hunter gathering
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to agriculture and civilization that happened simultaneously around the world
kind of all of a sudden ish in historical terms.
I mean, it happened over tens of thousands of years.
But given the fact that were humans around for like
two million years, why all of a sudden, all of a.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sudden, were we able to create civilization.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
There was a civiilation that grew very solely maybe in Antarctica,
and we just have never discovered that it has existence,
and it had spread around the world, but then it disappeared,
was covered up with ice, and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Then the Lost Atlantis.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The new idea of the way to live as humans
got out there and started.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know who knows.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, well, if you've studied this stuff at all, you
know that some of the ancient civilizations and cities and
all are super well documented and some aren't. Some you know,
it's fairly fragmentary. But clearly there was a giant city
and I have not studied this much. Er was one
of the first civilized areas in Iraq, I believe, but
it's not like a ton is known about it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So it's yeah, it's absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Imaginable that there was a big, important civilization and the
only records that were kept of it were over here,
and oh gully of volcano just went off.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Wrecking the only records that have ever existed. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And it's also highly unfortunate that most of the oldest
civilizations in Egypt and Iraq, and maybe the oldest civilization
is in turn, are in places where everything's so effed
up the world can't really get there and explore it
in the way you could if it were like found
in Nebraska speaking of certain religions.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Also, taking in all that information and thinking about these
spreads of time, I don't know, it kind of weirds
you out from a getting so worked up about your
current situation.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Hey, yeah, that's another.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Version of the Atlanta on your back and looking at
the stars for twenty minutes experience.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I go back and forth on that one. So the so,
if human beings have been modern humans have been around
for let's say seventy thousand years, thinking and acting exactly
like we do.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And why are you so worried about your today day?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, because I'm me and my kids are them, and
I worry about you know, I want them to be
happy and not miserable or in pain. So that seems
like a pretty good reason to be concerned about it. Yeah,
question of balance, I think perspective, no balance, all or nothing,
one hundred percent or zero. That's the way I do it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
So all of that was really interesting in thought provoking,
and I thank you for bringing it to us.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But what does that have to do with doctor Oz beingpoint?
That's what I was trying to avoid having the conversation.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Leads doctor Oz bad days blah blah blah, Pete Hexith,
sexual assault, blah blah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So just briefly for those of you who don't know,
and I won't go into it, but we had a
personal interaction with doctor Oz that made me hate him
for the rest of my life. He is a and
I don't like him at all, But that doesn't mean
he wouldn't be good at this job. I don't actually
have any idea whether or not he's qualified to do
this particular job. I doubt that he is because it's
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a running Medicaid medicare I mean, what.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Forgive me, friends for using Jack's vocabulary.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
We should all be better than that. But it's possible.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It takes a dick to go into those agencies and
turn them around possible. Oz's great sin which offended mister Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It mostly amused me, but was.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That he came in and just tried to take control
of the radio show. He was there as a guest
and said, our screener will screens calls, you sit down,
here's the way it's gonna go. We're like, wait a minute, no,
but he just seized control.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So he's a leader. He's a leader.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Maybe he's a leader and a dick, but apparently he
is used to people saying yes, doctor Oz, yes, sir right,
and he gets.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Things that go the way he wants them to go.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh yeah, one thing, it ain't gonna be as boring, friends,
isn't that the one sin that cannot be forgiven boring?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
The next couple of years will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And Bremer made a decent point on his Twitter feed
yesterday that before you get two worked up about a
lot of these choices, confirmed or not, they won't be
around long based on recent history. So whatever you know,
it's it's not like it's for the rest of our
lives or all eternity.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's probably a year or two.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
For what it's worth. I love Linda McMahon at the
Education Department. I want to talk about that because our
education system in the US seriously has it is diseased,
seriously diseased, and obviously you know me, I'm on about
the radicalization of our children and doctrination in schools which
is horrific and horrifically inappropriate. But you know you don't
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even need to go there. They ain't teach and the
kids to read and write, the do arithmetic. Good lord,
what are they? What are those buildings there for? Just
to keep the rain off the kids' heads. The turn
has happened with college education. Polling shows that now most
people realize, wait a second, and it's these places are crazy.
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I'm not sure this is a good idea that the
tide turned a lot. Where do you think we are
with public school K through twelve?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
We still have work to do to get people to
realize this is way way, way off time.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Sure are a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
There are more people that ever homeschooling or doing private
schools and have ever been before. COVID hastens that right, right,
and that's a big factor. I was just going to say,
there's an awareness campaign that needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's growing.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
But then the fact is that there are not the
same alternatives, or the alternatives aren't as easy to take
advantage of in elementary education for working families, they got
little kids, they're paying their taxes. They think the government
set up these schools. I want my kid to learn,
you know, homeschooling, private schooling. It's expensive and door time consuming.
Whereas I've came across another great article from this guy
(30:42):
who counsels like the elite high school students of the
Northeast who all wanted to go to the Ivy League forever,
and he reaffirmed what I saw in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We talked about a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He said, Now, all the lots and lots of these kids,
huge numbers of them, they're parents are like, Hey, how
about Georgia, how about South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, where kids
go to school to learn and like drink a little
beer on the weekend and try to get laid. How
about that as opposed to marching in favor of Hamas
all the damn time.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Plus, your future employer has not seen this campus on
the evening news being nuts.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Right, which they assume you went to Tennessee to get
a degree in whatever you got a degree in, not
in radical studies.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Right, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Hating capitalism, Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show,
The arms Strong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Show twicey times.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Indeed, friends, here's your freedom living Quote of the day
from GK. Chesterton contemplate this, will you. The most extraordinary
thing in the world is an ordinary man and an
ordinary women, not women women. It's not polyamory, you idiot.
He's not in some sort of weird open marriage.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I ruined G. K. Chesterdan's quote. He had such a
role going there too, sonorous tones really was going well
there right until that word right there? Do we have
enough tape to do a second tape?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Michael, the most extraordinary thing in the world is an
ordinary man and an ordinary woman and their ordinary children.
I'm thinking about that. I'm not sure precisely what he
meant by that. I've long believed that while someone who
reacts to danger or need or something in the split
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second and runs into the building and saves the children,
it's over and begins in forty five seconds, that person
is indeed a hero, and we should use that word
but how about somebody who shows up day after day
after day, be it difficult and heartbreaking and painful and whatever,
and just keeps showing up.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That's pretty damned heroic too, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, just to living in an adult life with a
family is quite the thing. So I think maybe I
do understand that quote.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I think that's what he meant. Mail bag. If you
know what GK.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Chesterton meant by that, drop us a note mail bag
at Armstrong and Getty dot com. John in Southampton, England, rights,
Good morning, Jack and Joe. Can I suggest a UK
US exchange we have where you have citizens who are
desperate to leave the US because you have elected a
strong leader who it seems is only interested in improving
your country. Myself and others are unhappy with the UK
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Prime Minister and Labor Party are extremely left and are
already running our country into the ground with high taxes
and unreasonable climate change targets.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I would like to offer my two.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Bet apartment in Southampton in exchange for a home in
the US.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Love the show I listen every day. Thanks John.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, well, let me speak for my fellow Americans. We've
kicked it around and appointed me as the spokesman Fall Americans, John,
we would love to have you. Please come on over.
Get the immigration paperwork.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Nobody even looks at it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It just goes into a shredder. It's just a big
elaborate joke.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Good, just come on over.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
A good feature on illegal immigrant farm workers on.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Sixty minutes last night? Is that what it was on
some show no ABC this week? Man? Was that interesting?
We got to talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh h sounds good, Mikey North Carolina rights guys in
light of the Tyson fight, man suggest the general manager
could have been father time. As you pointed out, all
the time remains undefeated.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
And that was rough as a guy roughly the same
age as Mike Tyson realizing, okay, you can get the
base best shape your life.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You're still old. Mike Tyson second round, walking back to
his chair looking eighty years old.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dr okay uh dh in San Diego at the other
end of the country. I also watched the Tyson fight.
He said, Holy cow, was that boring? The eight rounds
of an old man who didn't want to be hit,
But the ladies had a bloody slugfest.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That was a man peak.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Execs may need to rel look at his arguments against
women in combat.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That was some fight that was the best female fighter
in the world. I didn't know this to I watched
the fight and a challenger who should have won, and
it reminded my reminded me of why boxing fell off
the map like it did so often.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You want to boxing match.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The crowd, the fighters, the announcers all saw it one way,
but the three judges saw it another way, And you think,
why did I even.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Watch this six?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Dave writes, With around fifty percent of the country voting
for Trump, why is the dominant media dominant? I ask
a as a long term A and G listener and
a middle of the road democrat, seems to me that
the free market is missing an opportunity. Well, Dave, I
would suggest that the media is the dominant media is
less and less dominant. They are dying slowly, partly because
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of their ideological bias.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That doesn't reflect America. We got so much good stuff
to talk about on the way.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
If you mess an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and
Getty on the Man Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And Getty, They're gonna wear fast. Don't you think that's
a little odd? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind,
this is the Armstrong and Getty show.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong and Jetty and he arm Strong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
And here's a headline in the New York Times. Inflation
is basically back to normal. Why do voters still feel blah, wow,
that is just profoundly ignorant. I don't understand. I couldn't
believe that reporters didn't get this at the beginning of
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the conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I don't even know.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I'm nonplussed about how they can still not get this.
Let me read the opening paragraph from the New York Times.
Can person Grocery inflation has been cooling sharply, but Tamarra
Flamer twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Says she hasn't noticed.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
What she knows is that paper plates and meat remained
more expensive than they were a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yes, you freaking morons.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
You don't notice a decrease in the increase of prices.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It would be impossible. Nobody would do of the rate.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Yes, nobody would notice a slowing of the rate of inflation.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's impossible to notice. It's just a it's a dumb concept. Yeah,
oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It goes on the lingering. Pessimism is something of a puzzle,
says The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Is it? Is it? Really? Do you know a single
normal human being?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You must not, or you would hear people say I
went to Wendy's last night and it cost sixty bucks
for me and the kids, or I.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Filled up with gas yesterday. I don't know how.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
People do it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Or let me stop you there, Jim, let me stop
you there.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Now Wendy's went from fifty two dollars to sixty dollars
in the course of seventeen months. Now it's only gone
from sixty to sixty two.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Dollars in the course of the last nine months.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So as you can see, inflation is cooling a Janner
Hamburger right.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
In your face if you tried that to somebody, what
did band these people?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Where do they live? Mars? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And like I said, do you not have a single
normal friend? Not one in your circle? Whoever walks in
and say, you know, at a party and says, man,
I stop by the legerastore, I got this bottle of wine.
It used to be eight bucks, now it's fifteen. I
can't believe it. That's reality for everyone. But people who
write economics stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's not. There's more on this.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The lingering pessimism is something of a puzzle, which makes
you a moron. The job market has been chugging along,
overall growth has been healthy, and inflation is back to normal.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's here. How is that a puzzle?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Things cost more, way more than they did not very
long ago.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Period, you morons.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And let me speak for thousands and thousands of people
listening right now.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
The job market is hot.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Okay, I've still got one job, or I used to
have one, I still have one, and my money, my
wages have not kept up with inflation, not even close.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
So and then I'll shut up about this because it's
you know, I'm belaboring the.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Point, but I just it's I actually can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I find it difficult to believe that the journalists who
cover the economy are still saying this crap five days.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Out from a presidential election that Trump.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Is set to win, maybe mainly because of the price
of stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They don't get it. I don't understand. Inflation's back to normal. God,
you're so dumb. I don't even know where to start
with you here.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
You are belaboring the point, which points to arise in
the belaboring statistics like that the labor mark.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You just can't be stopped today with your word play anyway.
You're just a non stop fountain.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Of wordplay, like an ego Montoya over here of my words.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yes, I don't know what you call the subheadline halfway
through an article that's in bold or what.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't know what do you call those things?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
But anyway, it says here consumers may focus more on
price levels than price changes. Okay, all right, well that's
that's correct. Yes, yes, it is incorrect and obvious to
anyone over the age of five. Yes, good look, I
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can't I'm reeling from that one. You know, I thought
it was the beating was about over, and you caught
me right in the gyms with that. I mean, consumers
worry more about fing prices than the rate of e
fing change, which they can't observe day to day because
they're busy with the real lives.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh, it's so funny. So I mentioned as a target.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
The other day, I get my normal allotment of stuff
and it's two one hundred dollars. This is the first
time it's ever open over two hundred dollars, and I
said to the guy, two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
He said, yeah, I know everybody reacts that way.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
And I should have said to the guy, Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa, back off, buddy. The rate of change is lower,
all right. The percentage increases lower than it was before,
so you take it down a notch. I guess I
should be happy that it's two hundred dollars because it's
totally gone up two percent in the last month as
opposed to the you know, between three and nine percent
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for the previous three years.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I think that that that illustrates this case so beautifully.
I mean, that would be absurdest humor for you to
say that to the cashier. And yet that is essentially
the inverse of what they're claiming with straight facing The
New York Times. Oh, speaking of which, I'm so glad
you brought this up, because I've been sitting on this
for a while. Dave in Baltimore, I think, yeah, Dave
(05:57):
and Baltimore sent us this and the title of the
New York Times articles speaking of the old Gray Lady
is which appears to be a senilist Joe Biden when
it writes about economics is wages have been outpaced. I'm sorry,
let me do this again. The words are important. Wages
have outpaced inflation, but not for everyone. And here is
one of my favorite couple of sentences in the history
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of my reading newspapers. The bottom line, most American workers
are probably making more money today adjusted for inflation than
they were in twenty nineteen, but not all have seen
their pay keep up with their own cost of living,
and many, perhaps most, are lagging behind where they would
be if pre pandemic trends had continued unabated. These complications
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may help explain why so many Americans believe they have
fallen behind.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
They have fallen behind. Wow.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
The New York Times is saying most Americans are making
more money today adjusted for inflation than they were pre pandemic.
I have seen that statistic nowhere. I don't see how
that's impossible. They're wrong on the fact. But the second part,
which I've read a couple of times so I will
parse for you, is claiming that in spite of that
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fact that y'all and we are making more money adjusted
for inflation, bacon is easier to buy for.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Us than it was pre pandemic. We're going out to
eat and spending.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Less relative to our incomes than we were a while ago.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But in spite of that.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Because we have somehow projected in our heads where we
would be twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four if the
inflation hadn't been so high for several years, we're coming
up with some sort of fanciful Yes, bacon is easily
affordable right now, but it would be even more easily
affordable if not for the inflation of twenty twenty one
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through twenty twenty four. And I'm thinking, well, back to
your question, do you know any human beings have.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
You spoken with them? That is?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
That is blindness that goes beyond galling and is absolutely
in the realm of amazing, And I would like to
hear scientists explain it.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Here's a director of consumer surveys at the University of
Michigan in the same New York Times article. It's not
that consumers have lost touch with reality. It's just at
high prices continue to weigh down their personal finances. Thank
you for having you're a professor. I'm glad you're a
university professor because none of us regular people could figure
that out at all, and then they.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
beIN of medicine at the University of Michigan said, don't
jam sharp objects into your eye.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Where was your article from your nonsensical article? New York Times,
New York Times. Yeah, so this says wages have climbed
faster than prices for many consumers.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Okay, how many?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Not very I don't know anybody who got enough of
a raise over the last several years to put them
even even, let alone ahead.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I don't know anybody.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, this is the first time I've ever heard anybody
claim that, and it's a couple of times in the
New York Times when you had to that's the narrative.
Wouldn't you had to have gotten like a twenty percent
raise since twenty nineteen to keep up with the overall
prices stuff?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah, I mean we could go on, because they quote
a couple of more Harvard economists who study how people
experience inflation.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You need you all, all of you, all, all y'all,
as they say in the South, all y'all need to
hang around any normal human beings, go down to your
corner bar and have a conversation with some people, or
turn to someone at a you know, a high school
basketball game. Talk to any normal human being. All right,
somebody who doesn't work for the New York Times live
(09:53):
in Manhattan is a childish catwoman with an advanced degree.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
And see what think about prices?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I tell you what, If you can bag this rare game,
it would be rarer than having a panda head on
your wall.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Okay, wow, you find somebody to your house and you
got a panda head on your wall? Do I pretend
I don't see it? I say, hey, Jim, I can't help,
but notice.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm I'm wondering what other as that person's up to me?
Was that they'll do anything? Was that pad live at
one point? This is rarer game.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Still, you go down to the corner bar to this
the soccer game, waiting for kids in line at school,
and you find the person who says, in response to
my god, prices are so high it's still shocking. They say, yes,
but the rate of increase has slowed, and that's what's important.
You bag that rare game, and I will salute you
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a mighty hunter.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
In the Strong Congetti Show.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
This is from a guy I don't know, journalist in Australia. Dude,
Nobody on the left knows how to speak to young
men because every five seconds this has had why so
many young men voted for Trump and are moving away
from the Democratic Party, where the younger people used to
all flock to the Democrats. Nobody on the left knows
how to speak to young men because every five seconds
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at a leftist meeting, you have to either do a
land acknowledgment, or go around in a circle and pay
homage to the power of queer joy or some crap.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
He actually says, yes, it's briefly.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I know this because I used to be a socialist,
and this is how all these organizations act.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I saw all this with my own eyes.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
You have to literally be self flagellating to be in
the left as a young man these days, and this
is probably the understanding and experience in perspective of ninety
percent of young men. The feeling is that you have
to always constantly apologize for effing existing and just the
crime of being born. And this is why the right
is so effective at hoovering all these people up, because
the experience of constant self flagellation and self criticism is
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effing exhausting and annoying. And nobody wants to wake up
every day feeling like they are an a s person
just for the crime of being born.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I like that. Amen to that.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
He also goes on, we have to fix this because
I hate watching young guys fall into the Andrew Tait masculinity,
and then he goes through a couple of examples of that.
Because they got nowhere to turn to, They're going to
these like super over the top extremist weirdos just to
find somebody that's you know, appealing to them and not criticize, Yeah,
not criticizing them for being a man. This is an
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existential threat for the Left and even an existential threat
for humanity itself, because the end result if we don't
fix these gender warfare dynamics is South Korea style gender
hyper war and a total fertility rate of point four
and humanity just gets wiped out. That is absolutely I mean,
that is absolutely true. On the left, if you're going
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to continue to make U males feel bad about even
being born, you're not gonna win a lot of elections.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Or ever get that crowd.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
My heart bleeds for the little boys in public schools
or continually treated as if their maleness is a defect.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I know, it's horrorbies.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
It's their energy, their boundless energy is a misbehavior. Oh,
I just you want to get me going.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
God.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
I came across some schoolwork the other day and my uh,
my son is homeschooled. But so much of the teaching
material out there is put out there by publishing companies
that are so left I mean, you really have to
work at getting the right stuff. But anyway, this particular
thing was all about how women can be doctors.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know, freaking kidding.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
At this point in my life, when somebody says the
doctor will see you, I assume.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's going to be a woman. I'm surprised if it's
a man. So what do you what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You won?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Wow? That's just again a head scratcher. What wow? Wow.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I thought I would feel differently after the election.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I thought there would be.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
At the very least fairly widespread recognition to some of
the simple realities of the thing, which is that Kamala
Harris was a weak candidate, always was weak candidate. Is
that putting it out before hapes? You all rejected her,
as I said, like a rabbit raccoon when she was
in the primary was that sexism and racism when you
(14:43):
did that, well, I haven't no. Okay, Well, then when
the same thing happened the presidential election, why is your
explanation completely different?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
That is funny that that has never really been put
to anybody. Your party rejected her when she ran before,
not like right wing, your own party, like the most
active people in your party. Primary voters said no to
her before she even got to the first contest. So wow,
how is it shocking that she got rejected by a
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larger group of people?
Speaker 4 (15:15):
And it's become a so oft observed fact, it's a truism.
It's working its way toward being a cliche that when
Kamala Harris on the View then Colbert? Was it Colbert
or Kimmel, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Could not say how she would be different than the
extremely unpopular Biden administration. That that was one of the
most pivotal political moments in any campaign. I mean, that
is so widely discussed right now, there's no point in
bringing it up.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Everybody knows it. But as I was reading the.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Long top tier editorial writer editorial writers of the Washington
Post dialogue about what happened, how did we get this
result that didn't come up.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I haven't seen any criticism of Kamala Harris as a
candidate from the left at all. Maybe that's coming. I
don't know. But I have seen more than I have
ever seen before, and more than I expected of people
saying we have Democrats have gone too far down the
road of progressiveness in the culture wars. I have seen
a fair amount of that. Yes, yeah, yeah, your.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Old school liberals are finally finding the courage or the
cover to stand up and say, hey, y'all, all that
stuff is madness.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Which, by the way, is the way you win the
political arguments. That's when you've won. That's a good Other
side of it would be on gay marriage, where you know,
if you're old enough to remember this whole battle and
discussion in America, it got to the point to where
Republicans realized we got to stop being anti gay marriage.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's just a losing issue. I mean, we just can't
be and you stop talking about it.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And hopefully that's going to start on the left with
the you know, boys playing girls' sports or all kinds
of different things, where they realize this is we're gonna lose.
We nobody wants to hear this or not enough people
want to hear this right right, Our academic left wing
is just completely wildly out of touch with Americans. That
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latinex and herstry Herkstreet and that sort of stuff is.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Insane, absolutely insane.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Are Strong the Armstrong and Getty show.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
President Elect Trump with Elon Musk in Texas there for
the sixth test launch of the SpaceX starship meant to
eventually take humans to the Moon and Mars. The launch
itself successful, the booster even detaching as it's supposed to,
but then SpaceX seeing some issue with the booster booster
offshore divert Unfortunately, that means that we are our no
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go for the catch. It was supposed to land back
in Texas, but to save it from potentially destroying the
SpaceX launch facility or endangering lives on land, the booster's
shifting course and heading to the Gulf instead for a splashdack.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
So they didn't catch this rocket with them. What does
he call it?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
The megasuthan or other is what he calls the giant
arm that catches the rocket booster.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I still feel like.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
The media has not caught on to the way Elon
looks at these things.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
The whole fail fast theory or there's no fast and
learn faster, isn't that?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
In this thing which you can apply to your own life,
I've tried to apply it to mine. Is just there's
no such thing as failure. It's just information. Okay, I
tried this, this is the result. There's information about so
now I'll try to try it this way right.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Failure will ever hold you back. Fear of failure is crippling.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
And Elon expressed again yesterday that he plans to have
a rocket reach Mars in twenty twenty six. Now he
promises a lot of things, it often comes up short.
I think that's part of his whole success thing. Is
he he hits he sets aggressive deadlines.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeahs over understrives.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
No, But I mean if he's if he's off by
several years, that'd be quite amazing. I hope it happens
in my lifetime. What just a stunning thing to even
think about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
And this isn't aside and we'll dig into this more
thoroughly later on, but compare that idea of we're gonna
set a goal that's probably not reachable, but we're gonna
go nuts trying to get there. Who's in compared to
government right where I'd like to see that memo filled
out by the end of the months.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
There's seven of you working.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Have we run that through the Environmental Agency to make
sure we're not a foul of any this or that.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Have the application done by next March.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
So speaking of mankind and the amazing thing that Homo
sapiens have been into outer space and are going to
go further and further versus many of the other humans
that have existed on planet Earth that didn't make it
out of the Stone Age?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So you might be familiar with the book Sapiens that
came out several years back. It was a big giant
hit and it's just a fascinating freaking book. But I'd
only read the first chapter before, and I'm into the
deeper chapters. At one time, there were six different kinds
of humans existing on the planet at the same time,
and it's still not completely known why Homo sapiens this
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is what we are, emerged and all the other ones
didn't make it. But one of the genocide against my people,
the Neanderthals.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Could be or all kinds of different things could happen.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
But one of the beliefs is, and I've never heard
this before, is Homo sapiens are the only beast that
has ever existed on Earth that can believe fictions. And
uh and and fully embraced them. And I didn't quite
understand what he meant by fictions when he started in
on it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But he uses all different kinds of examples.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
For instance, and if you're a religious person, you will
be bothered by him using the word fiction. But he
doesn't mean fiction as in uh fake, as much. Is
it something that's in your mind. I'll start with this
and said before I get to religion.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Uh. Money, money is a fiction. I mean it is
it is. You know.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
You you take a piece of paper, It doesn't it's
just a piece of paper. So you have to have
all the belief that goes in with a five dollars
bill of what what the value of it is, how
it's backed up by the US government, how it can
be exchanged for something. And then you give the five
dollars bill to somebody at the store who also believes
the fiction of this piece of paper, and so you
can trade goods and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
No other beast.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Probably no other human ever had the mental ability to
do that, so you couldn't trade. For instance, some might
prefer the term abstraction. Maybe yeah, you know, maybe that
would be better.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Believing something or understanding it in the abstract, but yeah,
what an interesting principle.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Same with the idea of a nation.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So Homo sapiens could and do band together over the
idea of a nation, a country, a belief, a culture
that's worth fighting for, and so you can get a
very large number of people together to fight for it.
It seems that every other animal, including apes, you use
the example of sometimes apes do want to take another group,
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you know, apes, territory because they think they got better
mangos over there or whatever. But they can't do it
more than a very large group because it's over a
very specific thing. The mangoes. As opposed to being able
to band together millions of people over an idea of
fiction or whatever you want to call it, an idea
of we are a nation, no animal has shown the
ability to do that, and they think perhaps Neanderthals or
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homoerectus or any of the other humans couldn't do that.
A contrast, they couldn't buy into a concept like that.
So you're not going to have like West Side of
the Rainforest apes kick ass manasiders, they're not even real apes,
right right, So, and the same with refuse me apes,
and the same with creating a religion that you buy
(23:38):
into that you could all band together around and protect
yourself in very very large groups in a way that
no other animal or human has ever been able to do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
And I think that's a fascinating thing to think about.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That's what separates us from all other living creatures on Earth.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Perhaps that's as good a definition or distinction as I
have ever come across. Yeah, I thought it was amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
I too, started that book in kind of an interested way.
I need to dive back into it.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It's amazing how much is not known. That's one of
the things that's really stuck out to me. There's a
lot of guessing going on in that field, and many
many others.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So Lex Friedman had on a guy the other day
who's kind of like an out there, controversial sort of
anthropologist dude who has a belief that there was a
major lost civilization somewhere on planet Earth that we haven't
discovered yet. That explains the giant leap from hunter gathering
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to agriculture and civilization that happened simultaneously around the world
kind of all of a sudden ish in historical terms.
I mean, it happened over tens of thousands of years.
But given the fact that were humans around for like
two million years, why all of a sudden, all of a.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sudden, were we able to create civilization.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
There was a civiilation that grew very solely maybe in Antarctica,
and we just have never discovered that it has existence,
and it had spread around the world, but then it disappeared,
was covered up with ice, and.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Then the Lost Atlantis.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
The new idea of the way to live as humans
got out there and started.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I don't know who knows.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, well, if you've studied this stuff at all, you
know that some of the ancient civilizations and cities and
all are super well documented and some aren't. Some you know,
it's fairly fragmentary. But clearly there was a giant city
and I have not studied this much. Er was one
of the first civilized areas in Iraq, I believe, but
it's not like a ton is known about it.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So it's yeah, it's absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Imaginable that there was a big, important civilization and the
only records that were kept of it were over here,
and oh gully of volcano just went off.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Wrecking the only records that have ever existed. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And it's also highly unfortunate that most of the oldest
civilizations in Egypt and Iraq, and maybe the oldest civilization
is in turn, are in places where everything's so effed
up the world can't really get there and explore it
in the way you could if it were like found
in Nebraska speaking of certain religions.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Also, taking in all that information and thinking about these
spreads of time, I don't know, it kind of weirds
you out from a getting so worked up about your
current situation.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Hey, yeah, that's another.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Version of the Atlanta on your back and looking at
the stars for twenty minutes experience.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I go back and forth on that one. So the so,
if human beings have been modern humans have been around
for let's say seventy thousand years, thinking and acting exactly
like we do.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
And why are you so worried about your today day?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Well, because I'm me and my kids are them, and
I worry about you know, I want them to be
happy and not miserable or in pain. So that seems
like a pretty good reason to be concerned about it. Yeah,
question of balance, I think perspective, no balance, all or nothing,
one hundred percent or zero. That's the way I do it.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
So all of that was really interesting in thought provoking,
and I thank you for bringing it to us.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But what does that have to do with doctor Oz beingpoint?
That's what I was trying to avoid having the conversation.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Leads doctor Oz bad days blah blah blah, Pete Hexith,
sexual assault, blah blah.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
So just briefly for those of you who don't know,
and I won't go into it, but we had a
personal interaction with doctor Oz that made me hate him
for the rest of my life. He is a and
I don't like him at all, But that doesn't mean
he wouldn't be good at this job. I don't actually
have any idea whether or not he's qualified to do
this particular job. I doubt that he is because it's
(27:43):
a running Medicaid medicare I mean, what.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Forgive me, friends for using Jack's vocabulary.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
We should all be better than that. But it's possible.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
It takes a dick to go into those agencies and
turn them around possible. Oz's great sin which offended mister Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
It mostly amused me, but was.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
That he came in and just tried to take control
of the radio show. He was there as a guest
and said, our screener will screens calls, you sit down,
here's the way it's gonna go. We're like, wait a minute, no,
but he just seized control.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So he's a leader. He's a leader.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Maybe he's a leader and a dick, but apparently he
is used to people saying yes, doctor Oz, yes, sir right,
and he gets.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Things that go the way he wants them to go.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh yeah, one thing, it ain't gonna be as boring, friends,
isn't that the one sin that cannot be forgiven boring?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
The next couple of years will be interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
And Bremer made a decent point on his Twitter feed
yesterday that before you get two worked up about a
lot of these choices, confirmed or not, they won't be
around long based on recent history. So whatever you know,
it's it's not like it's for the rest of our
lives or all eternity.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
It's probably a year or two.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
For what it's worth. I love Linda McMahon at the
Education Department. I want to talk about that because our
education system in the US seriously has it is diseased,
seriously diseased, and obviously you know me, I'm on about
the radicalization of our children and doctrination in schools which
is horrific and horrifically inappropriate. But you know you don't
(29:30):
even need to go there. They ain't teach and the
kids to read and write, the do arithmetic. Good lord,
what are they? What are those buildings there for? Just
to keep the rain off the kids' heads. The turn
has happened with college education. Polling shows that now most
people realize, wait a second, and it's these places are crazy.
(29:52):
I'm not sure this is a good idea that the
tide turned a lot. Where do you think we are
with public school K through twelve?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
We still have work to do to get people to
realize this is way way, way off time.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Sure are a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
There are more people that ever homeschooling or doing private
schools and have ever been before. COVID hastens that right, right,
and that's a big factor. I was just going to say,
there's an awareness campaign that needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
It's growing.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
But then the fact is that there are not the
same alternatives, or the alternatives aren't as easy to take
advantage of in elementary education for working families, they got
little kids, they're paying their taxes. They think the government
set up these schools. I want my kid to learn,
you know, homeschooling, private schooling. It's expensive and door time consuming.
Whereas I've came across another great article from this guy
(30:42):
who counsels like the elite high school students of the
Northeast who all wanted to go to the Ivy League forever,
and he reaffirmed what I saw in the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We talked about a little bit.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
He said, Now, all the lots and lots of these kids,
huge numbers of them, they're parents are like, Hey, how
about Georgia, how about South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, where kids
go to school to learn and like drink a little
beer on the weekend and try to get laid. How
about that as opposed to marching in favor of Hamas
all the damn time.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Plus, your future employer has not seen this campus on
the evening news being nuts.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Right, which they assume you went to Tennessee to get
a degree in whatever you got a degree in, not
in radical studies.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Right, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Hating capitalism, Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show,
The arms Strong and Getty.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Show twicey times.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Indeed, friends, here's your freedom living Quote of the day
from GK. Chesterton contemplate this, will you. The most extraordinary
thing in the world is an ordinary man and an
ordinary women, not women women. It's not polyamory, you idiot.
He's not in some sort of weird open marriage.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I ruined G. K. Chesterdan's quote. He had such a
role going there too, sonorous tones really was going well
there right until that word right there? Do we have
enough tape to do a second tape?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Michael, the most extraordinary thing in the world is an
ordinary man and an ordinary woman and their ordinary children.
I'm thinking about that. I'm not sure precisely what he
meant by that. I've long believed that while someone who
reacts to danger or need or something in the split
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second and runs into the building and saves the children,
it's over and begins in forty five seconds, that person
is indeed a hero, and we should use that word
but how about somebody who shows up day after day
after day, be it difficult and heartbreaking and painful and whatever,
and just keeps showing up.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
That's pretty damned heroic too, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Yeah, just to living in an adult life with a
family is quite the thing. So I think maybe I
do understand that quote.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I think that's what he meant. Mail bag. If you
know what GK.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Chesterton meant by that, drop us a note mail bag
at Armstrong and Getty dot com. John in Southampton, England, rights,
Good morning, Jack and Joe. Can I suggest a UK
US exchange we have where you have citizens who are
desperate to leave the US because you have elected a
strong leader who it seems is only interested in improving
your country. Myself and others are unhappy with the UK
(33:36):
Prime Minister and Labor Party are extremely left and are
already running our country into the ground with high taxes
and unreasonable climate change targets.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I would like to offer my two.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Bet apartment in Southampton in exchange for a home in
the US.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Love the show I listen every day. Thanks John.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, well, let me speak for my fellow Americans. We've
kicked it around and appointed me as the spokesman Fall Americans, John,
we would love to have you. Please come on over.
Get the immigration paperwork.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Nobody even looks at it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
It just goes into a shredder. It's just a big
elaborate joke.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Good, just come on over.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
A good feature on illegal immigrant farm workers on.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Sixty minutes last night? Is that what it was on
some show no ABC this week? Man? Was that interesting?
We got to talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh h sounds good, Mikey North Carolina rights guys in
light of the Tyson fight, man suggest the general manager
could have been father time. As you pointed out, all
the time remains undefeated.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
And that was rough as a guy roughly the same
age as Mike Tyson realizing, okay, you can get the
base best shape your life.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You're still old. Mike Tyson second round, walking back to
his chair looking eighty years old.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Dr okay uh dh in San Diego at the other
end of the country. I also watched the Tyson fight.
He said, Holy cow, was that boring? The eight rounds
of an old man who didn't want to be hit,
But the ladies had a bloody slugfest.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That was a man peak.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
Execs may need to rel look at his arguments against
women in combat.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That was some fight that was the best female fighter
in the world. I didn't know this to I watched
the fight and a challenger who should have won, and
it reminded my reminded me of why boxing fell off
the map like it did so often.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
You want to boxing match.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
The crowd, the fighters, the announcers all saw it one way,
but the three judges saw it another way, And you think,
why did I even.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Watch this six?
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Dave writes, With around fifty percent of the country voting
for Trump, why is the dominant media dominant? I ask
a as a long term A and G listener and
a middle of the road democrat, seems to me that
the free market is missing an opportunity. Well, Dave, I
would suggest that the media is the dominant media is
less and less dominant. They are dying slowly, partly because
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of their ideological bias.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
That doesn't reflect America. We got so much good stuff
to talk about on the way.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
If you mess an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and
Getty on the Man Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
And Getty, They're gonna wear fast. Don't you think that's
a little odd? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind,
this is the Armstrong and Getty show.
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