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Featured during Hour 3 of the Thursday, December 26, 2024 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...

  • The Least Humble Marine...
  • Just Call It Racist (Neo Marxist Subverting Society)...
  • TikTok Face Punching...
  • Driving a ShipJack B-Day Texts.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:08):
I feel like that they've started breaking down intelligence into
different groups. Yeah, it used to be smarter dumb, but
now there's different kinds of intelligence, including emotional intelligence.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And I ran into a guy who had very low.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Emotional intelligence or whatever ability it is that some people
have or don't have to read a room to read
other people's body language or faces or whatever, right, and
it's amazing. I mean I have run into several people.
I know some people that are very high on that,
Like I think Trump is extraordinarily high on that. He
probably actually is genius level when it comes to emotional intelligence.

(00:44):
I think a lot of successful people probably are. But
I've known some really smart, successful people that seem to
have like zero I mean, they're like imbeciles when it
comes to emotional intelligence. And I met one on vacation,
as I said, the world's least humble marine, And yes,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I was just gonna say, do you think a decent
description of emotional intelligence is understanding how the other person
is receiving an exchange.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Perceiving that absolutely, And it seems to me the people
that are really bad at it have never even considered
the idea of wondering.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
How the people are reacting to them.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's kind of like, truly, the uh, you have no
idea how bad you or the more dumb you are,
the smarter you think you are, one of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, everyone asked their question.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, it's the whole incompetent people don't know they're incompetent.
And I guess that's true on all topics. And my
experience with military people as we've Joe and I have
done so many things with so many military people over
the years, and we both have family members in the military.
Military people tend to be pretty humble just the way
they are, and the higher up the food chain you

(01:56):
go in that the more likely they are to be humble,
Like Special Force dudes, super humble guys you would never
know there. And most Marines I've ever met in my
life were like that also, except for this guy. So
I'm on vacation and my son and I is actually

(02:16):
going to be both my boys and I were going
to take this boat trip. It's like this inflatable boat
probably fit fifteen twenty people on it, maybe a couple
of motors, and you're going to go out on the
ocean and it was described as a pretty rough ride
and then you ride around in the ocean and then
there's going to be some snarkling and then a ride
back and has a pretty long trip. It was like

(02:36):
three hours total. But anyway they made it clear is
really rough. And then my youngest son decided he didn't
want to do it, and thank god he made that
decision because.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
He would have never been able to handle it. It
was grueling. I mean it really grueling.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, you had to have your feet underneath these straps
and then you had to hang on with both hands
to these other ropes.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Have you done this before?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I have?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
And these boats are not a smooth ride.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
No, no, super rough and you like had to hang
on and really hard with your legs and your arms
to stay in the boat.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Hours of this.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
And it is a pretty physically grueling thing to do.
And it was fun, but I mean you'd go over
waves and land and boom.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And it was just like such a jolt to your spine.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I mean it was it was wrong AnyWho, So before
we got on the boat, there's a young dude in
a bucket hat, sunglasses, and a this is on the
fourth of July, a red, white and blue speedo.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And he's a super.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Fit guy, like big guy, guessing like six two two ten,
very fit, very muscular dude.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Just to clarify, the bucket hat, the sunglasses, the speedo
and nothing else.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Correct, Okay, all right, he had flip flops on, well,
grandam of a pair of flip flops, red white and.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Blue speedo and and uh, you know, there's a variety
of groups so like husbands and wives or boyfriends and girlfriends,
or like me and my son. And then he's by
himself and they talk about before we're gonna get on
the boat. The captain who is a super cool dude,
really really cool dude. He was six years in the

(04:16):
Coastguard and then he's run other big ships around the
world and he piloted this thing and he went in
and out of rocks. I mean, he's like one of
the most confident people I've ever been around in my life.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
I wish I was like him.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
He was military, so that factors into the story because
he was like your regular military guy kind of humble
and you know, not trying to show off or anything
like that. So he tells we're all to sit on
the boat, and you know, if you really want to
smoother ride, sit in the back. It gets rougher as
you go toward the front. And then if like you're
really worried about this, sit in the middle pillar. And

(04:47):
so there are some older people that sat in the
middle pillar. Some girls did and then kind of spread out,
and my son and I were up toward the front.
Marine guy takes fronts he I'll take front, And guy said, okay, cool,
you're sure, said, I'm semper fie man, I don't worry
about it. Oh so right off the bat, Marines never
freaking tell you you're the marine unless it comes up

(05:08):
in conversation. The fact that he just said that right
there is the first time I've ever heard that in
my life. At the guy in the speedo. So he
gets up there and he's sitting toward the front, and uh,
we take off on the boat and he's just non
stop talking the whole time, never stops talking, talking to
the captain, talking to all the girls around him. Of course,
non stop chatterbox caught it. I don't know how many

(05:30):
times you mentioned he was a marine or he was
simper fie. Wait, too many times not hanging on to
any of the ropes. He would just fly up in
the air and land and kind of balance some stuff. See,
I don't need to hang on. I'm semper fine.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
And I hate him already, I know, I know. And
it gets worse.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
So they're going around, and so they start handing out
The captain starts handing out gloves. He said, you're your
your your knuckles are gonna get rubbed bloody holding onto
the ropes against the canvas of the boats.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Let me guess.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
So if you want to wear gloves, you can get him,
he said, I don't need him. And the captain CD,
I didn't know you'd take any captain city.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
The captain is already tired of this.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You can tell.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Captain says, uh, yeah, I didn't figure you'd want to.
Of course, not sip for five. We don't use gloves. Okay,
we get it. Dude, you've made it clear to everyone
on this tiny boat who's hurt you already. You are
in the Marines. He's actually stole the Marines. But you're
a tough guy. We all fully understand.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
The whole dynamic of what's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
We just stipulate that move on, get it, and it's neat.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So we're on this boat ride and the captain points
out a couple of hikes and swims that people do
in this touristy area on the ocean, and he talks
about this one. It's a seventeen mile hike and swim.
Not very many people do it. Do it?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Do it?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
It's really really hard to do. It's really grueling. You
have to be like an expert swimmer. Marine voices, I
just did it, did it yesterday. I didn't think it
was that big a deal. I'm not kitty, I'm not kidding.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
Oh you go ahead, he says, when you go, whoops
and accidentally just donkey kick him off the side of above.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know, if only his dad had told him like once,
I'm proud of you, son, or a good job.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh wow, you think that's it? Uh, that could be
it and not a shock that he was by himself.
But so he had done this grueling like seventeen mile
coastal swim or whatever. And the captain, the coastguard veteran guy,
was pretty person. He said, wow, you did that, and
he said, yeah, I didn't think it was that much.
And he said, I don't know how many people have
done that? Were you with some people? Says by myself.

(07:34):
He said, man, that's not a very good idea. I
usually suggest that people are going to do that swim
they have a boat with him or nah, says a
marine guy.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, fine, we get that going.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
But here's the ending of my story. This is my
favorite part of the whole thing. The captain, super cool guy,
has a big speaker on his boat and he's blasting
music the whole time, which made it kind of fun.
And he's got like a bunch of different cool songs,
so Jimmy Buffett tunes and different stuff like that, and
just you know, kind of songs that people would like.
And then this song comes on Michael, So that song

(08:05):
starts and the marine says, hey, you know what I
call this song? Captain's like, what Freeballin'? Oh no, He's like,
what freeballing? You haven't ever heard that term freeballing. It's
like when guys don't wear underwear, we call it freeballin.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
And I wanted to say to him, everybody got it, dude.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
We all understood from the first moment you said that
you're pun.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
You You're fantastic pun.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
We just thought it was like coursing uncool, and there's
there are a couple of they're not children on here,
but there's a couple of like high school girls or whatever,
not appropriate content for them or whatever. So then when
it gets to the chorus, the chorus comes on and
he stands up. So now free balling, like, really, emphasize again,
freak on everybody's free balling? Are you?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Are you teschnicles Michael, You're right, Yes, you're good.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I actually thought at one point, are you a Saturday
Night Live bit?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
I was gonna ask, are you in the background of
some jackass ish video you're reacting to?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
That's wow? It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
This guy sounds cringe from start to finish. Every part
of this.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I hate jack.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh yeah, it was just it was tough and I
didn't know if my son was picking up on it
or not. But when we got off, the buddy was like, God.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
That guy was an ad you know.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Oh yeah, everybody and the captain just trying to ignore it.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Now, what do you call it? Free Ballin' Okay, do
you get it?

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
We all get everybody gets it. See the problems. And
that's where I come in with the emotional intelligence thing.
I mean, it was clear all of us looking around
that we I mean, we're all looking at each other.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
We all felt exactly the same way.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
And I would like to It's like an experiment as
a sociologist to talk to the guy and say, are
you really not picking up on any of the use
that everybody on this boat is giving that one?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
They're tired of hearing you talk too. They don't think
your course jokes are funny, like you really that hasn't
sunk into you at all.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Was he drinking? No? Okay, Do you think he was
a real marine or was he just being a marine?
I definitely think he's a real marine, and he had
all the They talked a lot about what base you
been on and when you get out and blah blah blah,
and he had too much knowledge about it. I think
his marine.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I just think he I think he's a super stud athlete,
really good looking guy. So the uh the there's a
captain and then there's another person who's like the tour
guide and talks and takes lots of pictures, and she
was like twenty five and super attractive. She went up
to the front to sit by him at one point,
like when we first started, because I think she was thinking,
here's a single guy, good looking guy.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm good looking girl talking. She was up there like
five minutes, went back to the back of the boat.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Okay, from the department of this is why you're single, dude?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You know, uh number number one one?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, I'll skip to this second point reminds me of
a dude I ran into in Lama's classes when Judy
was pregnant with her first and it was so obviously
a case where a big stud dumb ass found himself
some hot dumb chick and the two of them got

(11:21):
together and pretty quickly started to make each other insane.
And he is so clearly headed for that sort of
future he is. He's got to be in the outermost,
like three percent of utterly clueless.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Right, And man, imagine how difficult that is to make
it through life if you can't read other people's reactions
to you at all.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, and you're standing on a boat screaming, freeballing, right
and in a family setting.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be It wouldn't have been
funny if we'd all been nineteen year old dudes.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's still yeah, we get it. We got it right
at the beginning. You don't need to sing it.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yeah, there was no way for the captain to make
him accidentally fall overboard.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Huh well, I was just gonna say, Karma really demanded
that when the boat flew up in the air, he
smacked down hard, maybe on them, you know, Karma punishing
him for his uh well, the aforementioned sins.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
And I thought kind of what you were thinking there
is like, how many women have fallen for this good
looking studley dude and how long did it take him
to figure out?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
And or is the reverse? Is this the really dumb
hot chick that guys put up with for a while.
I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I see him connecting with either the and forgive me
for referencing it anyway, but the hawk twak girl who
was viral for a cup of coffee or the two
stupid good looking chicks who stole the girl scouts money
who had played the clips of whoa WHOA right many times? Well,
they had the money and I wanted it. He'll end

(12:58):
up with one of them or both of the.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Speaking of a hawk two egg girl, I just want
to let you know. I was at a bar over
our vacation and my husband was elsewhere. So this guy
came up and stood next to me and went, Hey,
I just want to let you know. You look just
like the hawk two ey girl. Oh, And I said,
first of all, no, I don't. Second of all, is
that your opening line? That's what you're going up to
chicks now and saying. So anyway, I'm apparently the other

(13:24):
hawk two ey girl.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I got a marine, buddy, I think you should beat
it to you and get along.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Great Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Here's we're talking about the neo Marxist trying to subvert
society and what Americans love and are proud of and
the rest of it. And a lot of people go
along with them because they think they're doing the right thing.
Here's a Democrat led town in Connecticut. This state trooper
was killed by a hit and run driver last week,
young Man family. The whole tragedy story that you've heard,

(14:01):
you know too many times. But several of the council
people wanted to fly the thin Blue Line flag in
his honor and explained why they wanted to and what
a fine fellow he was and what a tragedy it was.
But several of the council members said, no, we can't
do that. It represents racism and antagonism to many, many people.

(14:22):
And if you don't personally believe that, and you fly
it at your house and think it means something to you,
that's fine, but we can't do it because again, it
represents racism antagonism to many many people.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Here's how this works.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
The flag, which has always indicated support for concern for
love for police officers. During the heyday of the defund
the police movement, the Black Lives Matter movements, which are
both neo Marxist movements, they're trying to tear down the West.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
They've admitted as much.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
While they were in the midst of that fervor, they
convinced people that any support of police police is racist
and antagonistic, even though it's not and it was never
intended to be. But they convinced a bunch of people
that a legitimate expression of support for police is racist.

(15:14):
And so now you have people saying, I've heard that's racist.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right, or at least controversial. Right.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's how that works, as James Lindsay has put it, Really,
James Lindsay, if you want to control something, call it
racist until you control it.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Here's another brief example. Here's a North.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Carolina teen, North Carolina, you ought to be better than this,
suspended from school for using the term illegal alien in
a classroom discussion. An administrator likened that to saying the
N word. Sixteen year old Christian McGee, Right, wow, right,
and so now is this here's the difference between the

(15:52):
N word and illegal alien.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I can say illegal alien over and over, just like
you did, teacher, illegal alien, illegal aid.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Try saying the innword. You'll notice the difference quick.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Well, and check federal statutes, so you will find the
term illegal alien all over the damned place. So is
this school administrator an activist, a neo Marxist activist?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Could be? There are a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Are they just a soft head that has been swept
up in thinking, Oh, that's I'm told that it's it's
racist to use that term.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
So I'm gonna punish anybody who does.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Probably that one the useful idiot, right, it is in
no way which is why it makes me so crazy
that now you hear even Fox News using the term migrant.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
How did we decide.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
To go from illegal immigrant to immigrant to migrant. It's
because activists on the far left insisted on it and said,
if you don't, you're a racist.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
And people said, dud, I don't want to be a racist,
so I'll do what you tell me to do.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
How about a little independent thought, folks, Goodness, before we
get to that too quick?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Things on.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I just looked up at the Twitter machine and there
is something on there about young people in New York
talking about how they all got punched in the face
because of a recent TikTok challenge in which the thing
was to just walk up and punch people in the face,
and some of the morons do it. I want a
TikTok challenge that is, it's the uh, leave your parents' house,

(17:24):
get a job and support yourself challenge, the follow the law,
pay your taxes, and raise your kids right challenge.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
See if that catches on, it'll be waiting forever for that. God.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
I saw one the other day where there's a whole
bunch of iterations of this of like it's just abusing
old people scaring them basically, and.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It's just horrific, harsh and draconian penalty act, like somebody
broke into the house for grandma and then and you
know get her reaction.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, because she's an old woman who thinks somebody broke
into her home. That's why she reacted that way. Why
is that funny? You freaking moron. You should be in
jail just for this.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
You know, it's concerning the people who do that and
the people who laugh at it.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Oh my god, this one was a I guess this
was a Jackass thing originally from the Jackass movie.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
I saw this on TikTok the other day.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
It was you push a stroller with a baby in it,
a fake baby at toy the doll.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Doll is the term fake.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Baby, Yeah, and bother sh and like, you know, the
stroller you accidentally trip and push it into traffic in
a car hits it or something like that, and then
you get the reaction of people who are horrified that
a baby just got ran over.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Why is that funny?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
Or you get the people that run out into traffic
trying to stop it. Right, there's another guy that's going
he went viral the other day that was going through
like walmarts and targets and going up to people that
had full carts, families, I mean everything, and just pulling
the cart and knocking it over and knocking this stuff
everywhere and then running away for no reason at all

(19:01):
other than to be.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
A dick, right, And then their friends film that and
put it on TikTok, and then people watch it, and
I think that's okay.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I guess I. Well, I had them with the algorithm.
Is the more attention they get, they get paid.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'm glad you're young and complaining about this, because when
Joe and I complain about this, we just sound like,
you know, old men about modern culture.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
But this is a change in society.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Oh yes, yeah, well you're complaining about it. I'm even
now sketching out my plan to form a vigilante group
that's going to find these Internet scoundrels and hunt them
down and.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Give them some real world ass kickings. Oh I know
what it was.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
So you take the car carrier thing that you put
your baby in, like when you go into the grocery store,
and then come back and snap it into the car seat.
The person puts it on top of the car. It
does some stuff and then drives off with on top
of the car, and then you film the reactions of
everybody freaking out that you drove off with your baby
on top of your car.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I do love it.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
In New York, there is a hashtag I punch back,
and there are a series of videos.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Of people I'll tell you what you come and knock
over my cart full of stuff with my kids there.
I'm gonna have to fight myself to not tackle you.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
And we're rolling around to find out.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh god, dang it, all right, Well, this is troubling
and disturbing in the world is ugly and full of
evil anyway. So it turns out a giant cargo ship
took out a bridge in Baltimore on the day that
we are recording this podcast. The death toll is yet
on unknown, but at a terrible disaster and incredibly dramatic
video as well. This posted at Armstrong and Giddy dot

(20:39):
com Tuesday, March twenty sixth Anyway, got this.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Note from twenty thirty two. Very good.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I'm speaking to you from the moon colony. While Jack
remains on Earth. Trump is in his fifteenth term. Finally, finally,
one party rule, as we dreamed of secret all those
years we were talking about the Constitution. So Al the Mariner,
we'll just call him Al Anonymous. I don't think he'd mind,

(21:12):
but does this sort of thing for a living, big
ship shipping, and has corresponded with us through the years
whenever something in his realm comes up, and he's quite
knowledgeable and appreciate the note. But i'll read you parts
of his email to us. I watched this with my

(21:32):
captain and cadet. I don't know what a cadet is.
Apparently that's something on a ship, and from what we
can tell, it looks like they lost the plant the
ship's power and or propulsion and collided with the northern
span of the bridge.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, actually twice they lost power.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
She meaning the boat most definitely had at least a
harbor pilot on board, and may even have had a
docking pilot on board too. Harbor or bay pilots get
the ship from the sea buoy to the port, and
docking pilots park the ship. Driving a conning a ship
or driving it isn't nearly as simple as most people
think it is. I don't think it's simple. It's probably

(22:10):
really hard. Oh I thought it was hard, and it's
harder than I thought. This ship has a bow thruster one,
so okay, whoo. I'm trying so hard not to laugh.
I don't want to give him the encouragement.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
That was great, Jack, Thank you for that. Child.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
God, my child is right, my son who's twelve, and
I don't think he knows what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Drop to That's what she said on me the other day.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Because it's popular in school, and I don't think they
most of them know what they're really talking about.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
But I don't see that gives me hope for the
next generation. It really does. Were they discussing China on
the playground? Oh boy?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
So the ship has a bow thruster just like Jack,
one slow speed diesel engine, and one fixed pitch propeller.
In order for most of these types of ships to
reverse propulsion, the engineers first have to have to unclutch
the shaft I won't good, shut down the engine, stop
the shaft from spinning, restart the engine backwards, and clutch

(23:21):
in the shaft. These ships are built to run most
of their lives going forward as efficiently as possible, so
they are incredibly inefficient trying to make way a stern
backing up. In a perfect world, it would take a
few minutes to start backing down. Well, this isn't a
perfect world. Wow, I didn't know they could start going
backwards that fast. I figured it took longer than that,

(23:42):
longer than what. No, in a perfect world, it would
take a few minutes to start backing down. But this
is not a perfect world. With ships, you can't just
put it in reverse. First, you are trying to take
off ten of thousands of long tons of momentum. It's

(24:03):
a term I'm completely unfamiliar with, with the added delay
of the plant going through its process of getting the
stern bell going. So for the most part, mariners have
to maneuver their way out of an open moment. If
you don't have power, you can't move the hydraulics involved
with the rudder to push your stern over most cargoes,
vessel pivot point is a third of the ship's length

(24:24):
from the bow to the so even if we were
able to start a turn, the ship may still have
hit the bridge on the side of the vessel like
a glancing blow. Also, with a fixed pitch prop, you
will back up the opposite side. Your screw pins oh,
back up to the opposite side your screwpins. For example,
if your prop spins clockwise going forward, this is called

(24:45):
the right handed propeller. While you're trying to back up,
your stern will get pushed to the left. Then he
goes into how the rudder works. But the point is
it is a nightmare to maneuver these things, and you've
got to be extremely good at it because there's so
much energy, that much weight in motion.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, I know you're seafaring people, Katie.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Your dad has a boat and everything, But if you've
ever driven a boat at all, you know how difficult
it can be to, you know, go a certain direction
or stop from going a certain direction if you miscalculate.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
Oh yeah, and everything takes extra time. There is no
immediate maneuver on anything.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
On the water.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And then so our Joe and I's friend Dave, who
lives on a boat down San Diego. Last time I
was with it, I guess it was last Friday, fourth
of July. So we're on his boat and we come
back and he lost motors. He lost one of his motors,
so he lost the motor on one side, so he
could only navigate one direction and man we ended up
having a bad thing happen.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
But we are all on.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
One side of boat, trying to keep us from smashing
into all these other boats and smashing his boat up
against the poles, because once you start drifting, and he
got no motors, like that guy was talking about, if
you've got no power, you're just going the direction going.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, and I don't know if you guys saw that
video where it's sped up where you can see where
this ship is heading towards the bridge.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I mean the power goes out twice.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
So they're clearly having some big issues, let alone trying
to maneuver this thing.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Right, And I'll get to that in just a second,
but he points out the description of how the rudder
works that and anybody who has a boat knows this.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You can't turn a boat that isn't moving right. It's
got to be.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Moving to turn, and if you need it to turn quickly,
it needs to be going fast.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
If you've driven on snow or ice, you know this
phenomenon also, right.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
So anyway, so they had that problem, and it takes
a long damn time to move a ship like that significantly,
especially at the speeds they were going.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Then he says.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
All of that being said, the loss of power adds
a massive delay to try to make any corrective action.
In the video you can see the lights cut off
and back on again. We timed it. It took well
over a minute to get power back on. The regulations
say that the emergency diesel generators should only take it
most forty five seconds to restore power to the emergency systems.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, that reminds me of the text we got that
said I didn't know Boeing made ships.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Now, uh yeah, yeah, uh. With this, you'll probably hear
why didn't they just drop an anchor? Well, it doesn't
work like that in the movie Battleship or Contraband. In
order for the flukes of modern anchors to fetch up,
you have to be going almost one knot. I had
a captain tell me one time, never run aground with
two anchors on board.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
They don't do. But it makes it looks like you
tried everything. Oh okay, So.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
That said, just first of all, I didn't think of
the anchor thing. If I'd thought of it, I would
have said that myself. Why didn't they drop the anchor?
But don't run aground without having dropped both anchors, or
at least it looks like you tried.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Wow. Wow.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Things like this can have a number of things go wrong,
ranging from misjudgment from the pilot, of miscommunication between the
pilot and captain, or a mistake in the engine room
that caused a loss of power and or propulsion. Shoot,
it could be all three. I highly recommend keeping an
eye on the YouTube channel what is going on with shipping.
The guy there does a great job at explaining maritime
and navy stuff, and he'll break this down as soon

(28:08):
as he has info.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So these great, big giant tanker ships that got all
those containers on them, and railroad cars and stuff like that,
or trailers for semis. I mean that gives you the perspective.
It's the only way you can get any perspective on
these things. As they're sitting out in the ocean with
nothing next to them. You look at those things and
think he's one of those is like a train car
or a container or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, and you think, oh my god, that's a giant ship.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah. But remember so we were at a port in
West Sacramento where they ship lots of rice in and
out from around the world. Remember that guy telling us
stories about those giant ships that come in and there
aren't very many people on those ships, and how weird
they all were. Yes, that story, I do one undred

(28:51):
percent you've ever heard this, Katie before. But they're out
there for months, and a lot of people that work
on these ships are very strange people, because you're somebody
that wants to be on a ship with no other
human beings and like no entertainment or anything like that
for months by yourself down in the dark of a ship.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
It's these guys, uh, don't even have visus, so they
can't come off the ship, so they'll dock in the
US or dock in some port. That sounds interesting. They're
not allowed to get off the ship. They just stay
in their dark ship.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, that was special kind of personality for that job.
That was Frank, right, wasn't that his name? I don't know.
That was super interesting though.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yeah, And whenever I see those ships, that's what I
think of now. Got some really strange mole people living
on that ship.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Romanian mole people must not be allowed off.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
It comes out of my mouth every time we go
on the boat with my family, because we'll go out
of the estuary and we're down on the sea level
looking up at those things, and I'm always like, how
do those how do they float?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, oh yeah, there're you know, some terms are overused.
They are quite literally bread taking to see from anywhere
close to them.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, they displaced more than the weight of the water
technically is how they float. But that's hard to imagine
that that even happened. Yeah they what Oh.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Keep your shaft oiled? Yeah, am right, I'm right wow.
And a clip from shaft. Yeah, that was just all
sorts of enterpa. It was a multi media presentation you
gave us there the Armstrong and Getty show, yea or
Jack or Joe podcasts and our hot lakes full of
texts before we get to Joe, why Joe hates Canadians.

(30:35):
I do not hate Canadians. But that's what you said.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
No, I wasn't paying attention. I have to share this,
says a texture. I took my six year old granddaughter
to San Francisco. While we're walking to lunch, a group
of men rode buying their bikes absolutely naked. My granddaughter said, Nana,
who is running this place? Out of the mouths of babes?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yep. Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Sort of thing you will see in San Francisco, completely
naked men on bicycles, and some people think that's wonderful
for some reason, that that's like progress for some.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Reason, I'll never understand. A bunch of twist tooids.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Also mentioned at the end of the radio show on
the twenty first that it was my birthday, and for
some reason, I've never cared less about my birthday than now.
And I'm not exactly sure if it's wisdom and maturity
or depression and I've lost the ability to enjoy life.
But we did get this text your birthday. Everyone has

(31:31):
when you're not special.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Geez wow, Well thank you for that. All right.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's that's a person I really pity. Yeah, imagine being
that unhappy.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I don't even know. I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
When I see that sort of stuff on social media
and you see a lot, it's always like, wow, first.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
Of all, Jack, happy birthday. Second of all, that person,
wooh there you go.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, that has nothing to do with you, obviously, I
know you know that Jack.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
No, no, no, no, boy, that's that's entirely about that person.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
When I come across that stuff on social media. Really
honest to God. The thing I think is I need
to make sure my kids don't end up like that,
to where they're so miserable at the with the lir
lives that they have to strike out at anything that
might be pleasant or happy for someone to get through
the day.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I mean, Jesus, it's so awful.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Or someone that that maybe isn't so miserable that they
do that, but does.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It for joy? Yeah? You know there are those.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
People that that, I mean, you see them all over
the Internet that create these accounts just to.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Troll people because they enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
I've only known I've only I've only personally known two trolls,
but they both had the same attitude. So I'm just
assuming that that's kind of common among the troal community.
They really get such enjoyment of there's somebody happy. I'm
gonna try to take some of that. And it's just
think it's so weird. I've never had that feeling. You know,

(32:58):
somebody somebodysickness, somebody got somebody got a new car, and
I say I heard they suck or just something like that.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
What what is that like?

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Why? Why?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Well, as I've always said, people who are too dopey
or lazy to build things. The only satisfaction they get
is from breaking things. It's again, that's pathetic. Yeah, it's
like the person who vandalizes the playground equipment. I mean,
it's the same sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's just awful.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
The only effect they will ever have on the world
before they are dead is to break things and hurt people.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So that's what they do. And and again it's it's
just painfully pathetic. And what is a birthday dinner for you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, I'm gonna go eat steak tonight and probably some
sort of ill advised dessert'd be my guess. It's more
for my kids than me. I don't know if I
would even leave the house tonight if it w birthday.
Bang Bang Oh boy, that sounds like a challenge stake
five push ups. That's the that's the deal. A bang
bang is back to back meals of completely different kinds.

(34:02):
So what do I follow steak with pizza? Stop and
get a pizza?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh? Oh, steak is a dense, dense first blow. It's
gonna leave a mark.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah wow, following up steak something completely different, nice uh
Ramen restaurant or something that's a little hipster for you.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, maybe Italian though in the noodle the noodle realm.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Well right, let's go raman adjacent i like the spaghetti
and meatballs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah. I did an accidental bang bang with my brother
when he was in town when I had cancer. We
ate a pizza not knowing my wife was making dinner,
and then we got home and she had made a
big dinner, like a big homemade dinner, because my brother
was in town and so you can't, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
So she colums the word.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
We had stuffed ourselves with pizza, but then brought it
hard for that homemade dinner.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Also, well, wait, a man up. Yeah, I commend you
for that. It's just the polite thing to do.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
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