August 28, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of the Thursday, August 28,2025 A&G Replay contains:
- Campus Madness Update, Costs Have Doubled Since the 1980s, Dismantle White Supremacy
- AI Universal Extreme Wealth & Talking Like Chat Bots
- Golfer Scotty Scheffler & Meaning of Life
- Joe's Bitterness about the GOP
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Strong and Katy and No arms Strong and Getty strong Man.
It's a campus madness update.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh that's the madness part. He's not digging it.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is there more of that?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay? Here we're at the end and doing handful of
headlines for you, Jack, and we could really spend a
significant amount of time on any one of these, but
it definitely goes to the fact that crusaders against the
rot on our college campuses and actually our primary and
secondary educational systems too. We are not cherry picking. It's
more like we're standing in the midst of a cherry
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orchard and you're accusing us of cherry picking. I mean,
we're surrounded by cherries. Anyway, I'm gonna start with this,
which is a little different than the other headlines. But
it was The New York Times doing a story on
how the federal policy changes changed on pell grants and
the Big Beautiful Bill and higher education grants and federal
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loan caps and the rest of it. And what was
interesting to me about this And I'm sure you'll appreciate
this too, Jack, is that they mentioned that the reason
this discussion is so important is that the average cost
of public higher education in the United States has adjusted
for inflation, more than doubled since nineteen eighty. And they
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don't spend a single word no less, I'm sorry, certainly
not a sentence or a paragraph in asking.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Why double right, doubled since nineteen eighty sounds low to
me by a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The only thing they talk about is why government is
not doing more to hand people money to pay for
it because it's more than doubled. It's way more than doubled.
Absolutely nuts. Yeah, yeah, this is public colleges.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Who right anyway, But like I know a couple of
specific examples of it's doubled since people I know went
in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well right, right. But the point obviously is that The
New York Times doesn't even ask the question, just a
question of government grants to talk about a different mindset.
A bunch of headlines here, this is something else. As
it reloads three to one and we're back, the largest
teachers union in America is pushing Holocaust education that erases Jews.
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The NEA now describes the Holocaust as having twelve million
victims from different faiths without mentioning the attempted extermination of
the Jewish.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
W Wow, it was mostly Jews, as we all know,
as a chunk of Catholics and Gypsies and other people too,
But it's mostly Jews, so they're just going with different faiths.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Okay, Yes, in fact, that was the plan all along.
You may have heard of Hitler. He wrote a book
about it in which he expelled He spelled out exactly
what he's going to do, but not to the NEA.
Speaking of the NEA, they just scrubbed their twenty twenty
five handbook from their website. But the internet is forever,
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and various school choice advocates have preserved all of it
for all of us, and the NEA. This is this
year's handbook says educators must acknowledge the existence of white
supremacy culture as a primary root cause of institutional racism,
structural racism, and white privilege, and educators must work to
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prohibit institutionally racist systems and to bring them down. And
it's a chapter and verse of the whole DEI critical
race theory stuff. But the biggest teachers union in America
says that needs to be the top priority of teachers
is to dismantle white supremacy in our schools and our country.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Our public school system is completely broken.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, its long is how long will it take? Can
it be fixed?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Will just so many people have to pull out and
homeschool or private school I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, and school choice that Republicans are pushing right now,
Will so many people will leave the government schools in
favor of these schools that educate children, that the system
will collapse and ensure it has to.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Your number one priority should have been the entire time
and should always be for all eternity teaching, math, science,
and reading.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The end, the NEEA will push strategies fostering the eradication
of institutional racism, white privilege perpetuated by white supremacy. Culture
and school districts must provide training and cultural competence, implicit bias,
restorative practices and techniques, and racial justice. More on this
another time, but let's click on a few more headlines.
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We didn't mention this and it was an oversight. We
just got really busy that UCLA, who were absolutely hammering
for their treatment of Jewish students, including the establishment of
a Jew exclusion zone. UCLA agreed last week to pay
more than six million dollars to settle a lawsuit brought
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by Jewish students who said the universe a lot of
antisemitic demonstrations. I'm sorry discrimination during the Spring twenty twenty
four encampments, the anti Israel encampments, good for them, just
absolutely hammered UCLA, which is deserving of everything it gets.
George Mason University. On the other side of the country,
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the president, facing an array of federal discrimination probes, is
tapped the ex Maryland Attorney General as his personal attorney
as an act of self preservation. This guy, Gregory Washington,
is adi woke crusader and has sanctioned and demanded racial
discrimination in practically everything George Mason University does. And if
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you're not familiar with George Mason, it is an enormous
university in the Washington, DC area. It is the biggest
university in the University of Virginia system, so coast to coast,
all over the place, medical schools quietly maintain affirmative action.
Ording to Jason Riley in the Wall Street Journal, some
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still use race to make commissions decisions, even though the
Supreme court said it's illegal. I just heard a story yesterday.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Have somebody who's apparently some sort of medical school star
who has a whole bunch of options to go to
different colleges for medical school and interview has interviewed. It's
a couple where the first question was what's your pronouns?
And this person does not swing that way politically and thought,
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I'm not going to this school. Question number one to
decide if you want this star student to be in
your medical school, what are your pronouns?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Prioritizing that higher than prioritizing.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That at all.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Having it be part of it at all is crazy.
But making that like the top thing are you are
kind of people? Rather than whether or not you'd be
a good doctor, right, I mean if it was like
some sort of plumbers college, I would be thinking, well,
that's stupid, because like there will be leaks and bad
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plumbing if you make that a priority.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
This is like heart surgeons. Oh my god, it's obscene.
Do No Harm, A watchdog group that opposes racial preferences
analyze the last year's admissions data from twenty three public
medical schools. It found that at twenty two of the
twenty three Asian and white applicants who were accepted had
higher medical college admission test scores than their black peers,
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and the data showed that at more than half of
the schools, the average MCAT that's the big test score
of Asian and white applicants who were rejected was higher
than that of the mcat's score of black applicants who
were accepted. And that's called there's a name for it, racism. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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The Trump administration has launched a probe of the Duke
Law Journal and warns their medical school is up next,
as they are promoting racial references and racial standards for
who gets to publish, who gets to be on the staff,
who gets to earn the accolades. No white people need apply,
honest to God, this is Duke University with the law
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and medical schools. And then finally, that's a story in
the Wall Street Journal by a film by the name
of Colin Wright who was excluded at Cornell University from
a job for which he was eminently qualified, maybe the
most qualified guy in the country. They eliminated him purely
because he was a white man. And behind the scenes
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memos which were issued or found during the discovery process
for this suit. Said yeah, no, we're not going to
hire a white guy. Absolutely overt racism at America's universities
coast to coast, Minnesota to Miami. It's unbelievable. It needs
to take it apart, be taken apart. It's campus madness.
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Oh my god, what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I love that little exclamation point. He stepped on a
nail or something. Well, she saw the madness around her,
You fool.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wake up Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Geeddy Show.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Sam Altman of Open AI. He's been making the rounds
talking to various folks about how AI is going to
create just ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scats
of people out of work. And so he's pushing something
it's like universal basic income, but he calls it universal
extreme wealth, that everybody will just get the outflow of
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wealth from this technological marvel he and others are designing.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I like how blase they are about restructuring society in
ways nobody has ever done.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
In like six months from now, I mean, yeah, turning
us all into the idle rich and then it'll just
be grand and Marvey, think about the rich kids you
know that have been on trust funds their whole lives.
They've all got wonderful lives. So happiness and productivity right.
Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept that AI
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will automate most production and the public can share in
the revenue. Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce, says up to
half of the work at the company is now done
by AI. Oh my god. He is an evangelist for
universal basic income and said during the pandemic that he
sees COVID nineteen stimulus checks as a model for broader
income distribution. Oh wow, Mark, do you even read the news?
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But so you.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Emphasized the you and universal. I wasn't picturing that. So
we're all.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Gonna get a chunk of the money. Well then how
about is he gonna be welfare? It's just gonna float everybody.
But we'll fine.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But if you don't have a job that was affected
by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on,
is the point they're making.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I mean, right, So if you.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Don't have a job affected by AI, why would you
keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well? See that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as
more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will
drive income inequality one of the most overused in stupid
terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income quote for those who
cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for
raising a family or volunteering to help others. In other words,
a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians
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will decide who gets what. They will rout it to
cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will
just be uncountable scads of money. Now there are critics.
Not all of Silicon Valley is on board. Here's David Autor,
labor economist and MIT said the hypothetical society in which
the majority of income is distributed from a few sources
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is frightening in a political fantasy. Land support universal income
because quote, they think they're gonna put everyone out of work,
and they don't have a better idea for what to
do about that.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's this whole
thing you've described is completely unworkable in any realistic sense.
So I is anybody thinking about this? Is Congress thinking
about this.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They should be if they're not interestingly. Venture capitalist Marc
Andreesen is my man in this uh. He says that
man was meant to be useful, to be productive, to
be proud, And if AI transforms every job, that's gonna
be a serious, serious challenge. That that's the big world's
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biggest understatement, serious challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, i'd say again, I don't know if I buy
this story in the Washington Post today. It's happening. People
are starting to talk like talk like chat GPT. Actually
I don't believe this at all, and I use chat
GPT probably more than the average person. It says here,
if you use chat GPT, claw Odd, Gemini or other
AI powered chatbots, so claude which one's claud that it's
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a big one.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I can't remember whose that is, but I always start.
It's always on the lie.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I need to try that. I try. I try chat GBT,
and I do GROWK, but I haven't done the other ones.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It says, you're probably I'm operating under the assumption that
you're both speaking the same language. You input English, it
outputs English.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Except that's a misconception.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You've actually been speaking different languages.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I find this fascinating.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Rather than processing text like a human, the chatbot turns
your prompt into an embedding, a group of numbers represented
in a vector space, kind of like coordinates on a map.
But just as a map is a representation of representation
of territory, this embedding is a flattened representation of language.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
The chatbot then formulates a reply.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Making a word by word prediction based on how it
was trained to answer pasted int. It sounds like it's
thinking and talking, but it's not. So This prediction the
chat the chatbot is making draws on biased training data,
the specific texts it learns from biased reinforcement learning, the
feedback it receives. Ultimately, what looks like English to you
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is really just you know, trying to take human speech
and make it sound real. But it's using the predictions
based on all the inputs that can be flawed, which
we all need to recognize, like immediately, I think it's
too late already. But the examples they give in here
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about how we're starting to talk like chat GPT, which
again I don't think is happening. Chat GPT uses the
word delve at higher rates than people use when writing
or speaking English according to a study, and well we
should examine, come a further study, come a look more
into that. But now people are starting to use it
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more often, according to this researcher in articles and speech,
because chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Used it more often.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So it's pushing the way we talk more towards the
way it talks. And the checkers say that delve has
become more common in speech since chat GPT launched, and
delve is just one example of words that he uses.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Do you buy that at all? I just don't buy
this at all. I don't know. I read the same
piece and it says that part of it is that
the people who look over these systems that are like
the employees of the large language model companies, are often
low wage workers from like Nigerian Kenya, where delve is
used at a higher rate than in American or British English.
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I don't know. I don't think how intricate, commendable and meticulous.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But I don't think I've picked up any say or
words from the chatbots that I just find that impossible
to believe. I do think that we all need to
recognize that it's all about it predicts the next word
based on all the inputs it's been getting from all
these different sources, and it's not actually thinking right but right,
you know, especially if you're using the audio one it
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sounds like a person and it calls me buddy.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So well, and if it predicts the answer that I'm
looking for, great, right, all right, it's not thinking. It's
not intelligence at all. It's just a glorified madlist Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
One of my favorite books I've ever read about politics
is the Myth of the Rational Voter. In the first
chunk of it, the main argument of it is, and
it's indisputable by the data, that there are certain economic
ideas and principles that people get wrong in much greater
numbers than they get right for some reason, like rent control,
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Like that con Man communist, the communist if you will,
zoron Mumdani in New York is trying to pitch you
hit people, young people with rent control. They will, in
overwhelming numbers say that's a great idea. But then a
little edumacation, a little life experience, they understand, Oh it's
a terrible idea. It's like the worst idea. But generation
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after generation people fall for certain economic arguments over and
over again. It's kind of interesting. Anyway. I'm reminded of
that when thinking about what we're going to play for
you believe it or not, it's a golfer at a
press conference. What Scotty Scheffler, who is the greatest golfer
on the planet, and more on that in a minute.
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But when it comes to what will make me happy,
I think a lot of human beings, most of us,
are like those youngsters who think great control is a
good idea. Generation after generation, we chase the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, this segment is about life satisfaction, not about golf.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh it's not. Oh my god, I was
going to go into a long discourse over the draw
versus the fade anyway, those are golf terms. Anyway. Yeah,
it's about life satisfaction. And so Scott Scheffler, who is
the greatest golfer on the planet currently and very very
well liked because he's very normal as a dude, happens
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to be a fairly devout Christian and a family manager.
You're about to hear very much. Not like Tiger the Assassin.
He's a great competitor in the rest of but he's
kind of a different guy anyway. They're asking him about
his superachievements this year and previous years at a press conference,
and this is what he said. We'll start with sixteen
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and go from there. Michael. You know, I think it's
kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I think, you know, I think I said something after
the Buyer in this year about like it feels like
you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament
for like a few minutes and only lasts a few minutes,
that kind of euphoric feeling. And I like to win
the Buyer Nelson Championship at home. I literally worked my
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entire life to become good at golf to have an
opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it, you celebrate,
get to hug, hug my family, My sister's there at
such an amazing moment, and then it's like, Okay, now
what are we gonna eat for dinner?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You know, life goes on, go ahead, roll on.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Is it great to be able to win tournaments and
to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf?
Yet I mean it brings tears misers to think about
because it's literally worked my entire life. To become good
at this and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment,
I think is is a pretty cool feeling, you know,
to get to live out your dreams.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's very special. But at the end of the day,
it's like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers.
I don't I'm not here to inspire somebody else to
be the best player in the world, because what's the point.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
You know, this is not a fulfilling life.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's it's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment, but it's
not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest, you know,
places of your heart. You know, there's a lot of
people that make it to what they thought was going
to fulfill them in life, and then you get there
and all of a sudden, you get to number one
in the world and they're like, what's the point?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And you know, I really do believe that.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I think I think most everybody has had that experience
or has that experience. At some point, you get the
whatever it is you've been wanting to get and okay, hmm,
the satisfaction of that didn't last very long, and you
have to wrestle with what am I?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
You know? What what am I doing? Or what do
I enjoy? Or why am I? Why am I getting
up every morning? Right?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And it's the process and just the daily life. My
dad was always really good at this, and just Youlays
use the example of taking out the trash. People don't
like complain about doing this and that, and that's what
life is. Life is taking out the trash and doing
the dishes and getting up and going to work and
raising all the things that you do that seem like
they're in the way of your That's what life is,
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right right, Let's throw along.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know, what is the point?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You're like, why do I want to win this tournament
so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a
daily basis. It's like showed up with the Masters every year.
It's like, why do I want to win this golf
tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the
Open Championship so badly? I don't know, because if I win,
it's gonna be awesome for about two minutes, and then
we're going to get to the next week and it's
gonna be like, hey, you want two majors this year?
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How important is it for you? To win the fext cuplayoffs,
and it's just like we're back here again, you know,
So we really do. We work so hard for such
little moments, and you know, I'm kind of sick of
I love putting in the work, I love being able
to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams.
But at the end of the day, sometimes I just
don't understand the point, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't know if I'm making any sense or not.
But am I not.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's just it's just one of those deals, you know.
I I love the challenge. I love being able to
play this game for a living. It's it's one of
the greatest joys of my life. But does it fill
the deepest, you know, wants and desires of my heart.
Absolutely not. I mean, I love playing golf. I love
being able to compete. I love living out my dreams.
I love being a father. I love being able to
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take care of my son. I love being able to
provide for my family out here playing golf. And you know,
every day when I wake up early to go put
in the work, you know, my wife thanks me for
going out and working so hard, and when I get home,
I try and thank her every day for taking care
of our son. It's just you know, that's why I
talk about families being my priority, because it really is.
You know, I'm blessed to be able to come out
here and play golf. But if my ever started affecting
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my home life or whatever affected the relationship I have
with my wife or with my son, you know that's
gonna be the last day that I play out here
for a living. You know, this is not the be
all and all. This is not the most important thing
in my life. And that's why I wrestle with why
is this so important to me? Because you know, I
would much rather be a great father than I wouldn't
be a great offer. You know that at the end
of the day, that that's what's more important to me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
So, just to summarize, I think a lot of us
and I mean us. Oh, let me put this aside. Yeah,
the money's pretty good. He's made a hell of a
lot of money. He lives a great lifestyle. He doesn't
have to worry about money ever again, which is a
big deal if you've ever or are currently worried about money.
I get that. But having said that, I think all
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of us, I think happiness is the like the triumph
or that's what we're looking for, or the falling in love,
or the big win or the fail or the congratulations
from the crowd or your contemporar is your colleagues even
but it's not there, right.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
So one thing that popped into my mind is it
reminded me of Woody Allen talking a lot in his book.
Woody Allen is a movie director, one of the most
famous movie directors of all time. If you don't know
who he is anyway, in his autobiography that he wrote
a couple of years ago, he loved making movies the
way this guy loves practicing and the process. But like
he'd finish the movie and be like, you just see
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what he's done and move on to the next one.
He's like, no enjoyment in the finished product. He'd never
watch him. He would never pay any attention to the refuse.
It was just the process was the only thing that
there was an enjoyment, The thing that most well, I
don't know most people, but a lot of people think
would be where you get the enjoyment. The finished product
or the winning the tournament or becoming the top salesman
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or whatever is.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Not what you think it was gonna be. Yeah, you
can get quite satisfaction out of it, like he was
talking about. But the idea of like constant joy is
that the right word, uh, you know, happiness slash euphoria
slash cheerfulness slash excitement. That's just that's not what we
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need to chase because it's illusory. It goes way so quickly,
you know, it was kind of it passed by so quickly.
But I can relate to and it's a great description.
So he wins a super giant golf tournament that that
millions of people around the world just dream of being
good enough to win that tournament, having the acclaim, getting
the check, blah blah blah, and then you know, half
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an hour later, it's like, what do you want to
have for dinner? That's a pretty good description of the
way life really is. Yes, it's about the people you
care about. I mean, isn't that just the bottom line?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah? So, and I get I get well, I guess
the ultimate point would be you have to enjoy the
process of life, not making a movie or becoming a
golfer or whatever or whatever it does you do, just
process of life, the daily grind, which is what it
feels like a lot of times is what life is,
and you gotta find it. If you're waiting for the payoff,
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it ain't coming.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Oh, folks, that was the payoff. The payoff is there's
no payoff, Kirk Bluie. That should be taught more.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think that that's not I think that's the opposite
of what our culture tends to tell us.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Right right right. The movie doesn't end. There's no end
to the movie. Your part is just written out now.
If you want to get it metaphysical and talk about
religion and life after death or whatever, that's a completely
different topic. But no, you don't win. You never win.
You just keep playing. Maybe that's how I would sum
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it up.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And if you enjoy it the best you can, well,
I think part of the reason that a person like
you know not to bring it back to golf, but
you could apply this to anybody. A guy like Tiger
Woods goes off the rails. I think he was probably
convinced that the payoff was going to be the payoff
and the thing, and it wasn't enough, and so he
needed all the women in the and whatever all other
weird things he was doing to try to get the
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high that he needed.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, he wanted that fist pumping, yelling moment to like last,
that was the gold.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So to the idea that there is no payoff, here's
here's the you know, here's the key thing to know
about life. There is no payoff. Can how many of us?
Can you look at the day today and I've got
a very mundane, routine day work, got an appointment with something,
somebody's gonna come fix something on my car, blah blah blah,
take care of the kids. Meal for saying?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Can I Can you get up every day and think
today is the payoff? This is the payoff? Today is
my payoff? Is that motivating? That is hard?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah? I don't know. I blew my own mind. The
great philosophers of the world have concerned themselves with this
very question, and they've come up with different answers.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I may have immobilized myself. I mean, I might not
be able to function the rest of the day. I'm
gonna lock up and they're going to carry me out
of here on ajourney ironic. Yeah, that would be unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Jack Armstrong and Joe the Armstrong and Getty Show, thee
Armstrong and yetty show.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
And this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered. This
is the most sausagey of sausage making. If you're familiar
with the old reference to politics, here's your headline from
the wa Pole. I'm gonna read you just a little
bit because it's kind of a revealing of at least
a couple of things. Trump's tax and immigration bill clears
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Hurtle after late night vote to the House Budget. He
passed a massive tax and immigration package central President Trump's
agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives, overspending four
fiscal conservatives all deficit hawks aligned with the ull truck
conservative House Freedom Caucus, changed their vote to present, allowing
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the legislative monstrosity I injected that package to be recommended
favorably to the House by a vote of seventeen to sixteen.
But their hesitance to vote for the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act out of committee is a reminder that the
far right flank of the Republican Conference remains skeptical.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's interesting they call these people ultra conservative of right wing,
when not very many years ago you would have been
the center of the Republican Party. I mean that would
have been I mean, as like what the Republican Party was.
It was a term you would have used to define
the party.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
In fact, it was so intrinsic to the Republican Party
you'd feel silly and repeating what you just repeat it right,
that there's no need fiscally conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
But I suppose in reality, given where most of the
party is, they are ultra right wing or ultra conservative
because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently apparently
not voters.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
So spending your children and grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well all right, Well this story got repeated a lot
over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of
our credit scores by one of the major organizations that
does that sort of thing. Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Over the weekend it kind of.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Got put out there that it was like a Trump
thing because of tariffs or whatever. It was basically around
the fact that our debt is just so high. It's
just like this would happen to you if you go
to the bank and they take a look at your
well you've got with your car payments. Now you bought
like eight cars and two houses, and you're just you're
just overmaxed, So we can't.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Have eighty thousand dollars in credit card bills and you
only make ninety a year.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Right, right, So these jong grady because you just spend
more than you make. That's what happened. That didn't happen
just in the last one hundred days under Trump.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We've been building this for a long time. And the
final reason I am completely embittered about the Republican Party
in politics and America and democracy and life on Earth
is the fact that, and it's a two part horror show,
Part number one is that there are a bunch of
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swing district Republicans from big blue states California and New
York most notably, who are not only trying to defend
the idea of the salt deduction, the state and local
tax deduction, they want to raise it from ten thousand
dollars to at least thirty thousand dollars and maybe fifty
thousand dollars. Meaning, if you live in a tax and
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spend lunatic state like say California, all of those incredibly
high taxes you're paying you can deduct from your federal
tax return, so the other states will subsidize the tax
and spend lunacy of New York and California.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes
because I live in California.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That makes sense. Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from
the other states, you pay a lower federal tax rate,
significantly lower depending on you know, how much money you
make than folks in fiscally responsible states. As indefensible morally,
it's indefensible as for Republican reason, not the party, but
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the idea of we have a federal system than states,
and the states can do what they want, and they
should do what they want.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
If you're fine, if Massachusetts wants to have a sixty
five percent income.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Tax, go ahead. I'm not living there, but go ahead.
But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states
is it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican,
he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness,
the idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party.
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I'm done.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's it's hard to swallow. I mean it, you know,
it would help Joe and I if this happens financially,
But it's awful, absolutely awful.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I believe you can't defend it. No, it's it's it's
it's I am horrified. I don't care how much it
would benefit me. God bless me. I have principles. It's
really held me back in life. Jack too. I just
I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, Like I said last week, Sarah Isger of The Dispatch,
I heard her on a podcast They're having this discussion
about party and she said, there are no political parties.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
What are we talking about here? Yeah? I need to
seek that out because I think she nailed absolutely, one
hundred percent. There are no political parties. There's just whoever
emerges as the candidate cycle by psych and then whatever
they believe the party goes along with. And it's true
on both sides. So the idea that there are parties
that stand for something, we need to all move past. That.
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From my hero hl Menken, every election is a sort
of advanced auction sale of stolen goods. That's always been true.
There was a time when a certain party had certain
principles that I admired. Do you have time is past?
You know what my high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my
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wife of forty years is when she's not turning tricks.
She's killing people for the mob. Okay, she's not the
woman I felt at This is, by the way, fictional
illustration has nothing to do with my beloved bride Judith.
She's not the person she was. You can forget it.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's over, so move on.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Get get an AI girlfriend like a normal person and
a love bot or something Hi girlfriend like a normal person.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Jack Armstrong and joe Chatty The Armstrong and Daddy joe
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Caddy arm.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Strong and Katy and No arms Strong and Getty strong Man.
It's a campus madness update.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh that's the madness part. He's not digging it.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is there more of that?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay? Here we're at the end and doing handful of
headlines for you, Jack, and we could really spend a
significant amount of time on any one of these, but
it definitely goes to the fact that crusaders against the
rot on our college campuses and actually our primary and
secondary educational systems too. We are not cherry picking. It's
more like we're standing in the midst of a cherry
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orchard and you're accusing us of cherry picking. I mean,
we're surrounded by cherries. Anyway, I'm gonna start with this,
which is a little different than the other headlines. But
it was The New York Times doing a story on
how the federal policy changes changed on pell grants and
the Big Beautiful Bill and higher education grants and federal
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loan caps and the rest of it. And what was
interesting to me about this And I'm sure you'll appreciate
this too, Jack, is that they mentioned that the reason
this discussion is so important is that the average cost
of public higher education in the United States has adjusted
for inflation, more than doubled since nineteen eighty. And they
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don't spend a single word no less, I'm sorry, certainly
not a sentence or a paragraph in asking.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Why double right, doubled since nineteen eighty sounds low to
me by a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
The only thing they talk about is why government is
not doing more to hand people money to pay for
it because it's more than doubled. It's way more than doubled.
Absolutely nuts. Yeah, yeah, this is public colleges.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Who right anyway, But like I know a couple of
specific examples of it's doubled since people I know went
in the nineties.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Well right, right. But the point obviously is that The
New York Times doesn't even ask the question, just a
question of government grants to talk about a different mindset.
A bunch of headlines here, this is something else. As
it reloads three to one and we're back, the largest
teachers union in America is pushing Holocaust education that erases Jews.
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The NEA now describes the Holocaust as having twelve million
victims from different faiths without mentioning the attempted extermination of
the Jewish.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
W Wow, it was mostly Jews, as we all know,
as a chunk of Catholics and Gypsies and other people too,
But it's mostly Jews, so they're just going with different faiths.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Okay, Yes, in fact, that was the plan all along.
You may have heard of Hitler. He wrote a book
about it in which he expelled He spelled out exactly
what he's going to do, but not to the NEA.
Speaking of the NEA, they just scrubbed their twenty twenty
five handbook from their website. But the internet is forever,
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and various school choice advocates have preserved all of it
for all of us, and the NEA. This is this
year's handbook says educators must acknowledge the existence of white
supremacy culture as a primary root cause of institutional racism,
structural racism, and white privilege, and educators must work to
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prohibit institutionally racist systems and to bring them down. And
it's a chapter and verse of the whole DEI critical
race theory stuff. But the biggest teachers union in America
says that needs to be the top priority of teachers
is to dismantle white supremacy in our schools and our country.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Our public school system is completely broken.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Yeah, its long is how long will it take? Can
it be fixed?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Will just so many people have to pull out and
homeschool or private school I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, and school choice that Republicans are pushing right now,
Will so many people will leave the government schools in
favor of these schools that educate children, that the system
will collapse and ensure it has to.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Your number one priority should have been the entire time
and should always be for all eternity teaching, math, science,
and reading.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The end, the NEEA will push strategies fostering the eradication
of institutional racism, white privilege perpetuated by white supremacy. Culture
and school districts must provide training and cultural competence, implicit bias,
restorative practices and techniques, and racial justice. More on this
another time, but let's click on a few more headlines.
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We didn't mention this and it was an oversight. We
just got really busy that UCLA, who were absolutely hammering
for their treatment of Jewish students, including the establishment of
a Jew exclusion zone. UCLA agreed last week to pay
more than six million dollars to settle a lawsuit brought
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by Jewish students who said the universe a lot of
antisemitic demonstrations. I'm sorry discrimination during the Spring twenty twenty
four encampments, the anti Israel encampments, good for them, just
absolutely hammered UCLA, which is deserving of everything it gets.
George Mason University. On the other side of the country,
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the president, facing an array of federal discrimination probes, is
tapped the ex Maryland Attorney General as his personal attorney
as an act of self preservation. This guy, Gregory Washington,
is adi woke crusader and has sanctioned and demanded racial
discrimination in practically everything George Mason University does. And if
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you're not familiar with George Mason, it is an enormous
university in the Washington, DC area. It is the biggest
university in the University of Virginia system, so coast to coast,
all over the place, medical schools quietly maintain affirmative action.
Ording to Jason Riley in the Wall Street Journal, some
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still use race to make commissions decisions, even though the
Supreme court said it's illegal. I just heard a story yesterday.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Have somebody who's apparently some sort of medical school star
who has a whole bunch of options to go to
different colleges for medical school and interview has interviewed. It's
a couple where the first question was what's your pronouns?
And this person does not swing that way politically and thought,
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I'm not going to this school. Question number one to
decide if you want this star student to be in
your medical school, what are your pronouns?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Prioritizing that higher than prioritizing.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
That at all.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Having it be part of it at all is crazy.
But making that like the top thing are you are
kind of people? Rather than whether or not you'd be
a good doctor, right, I mean if it was like
some sort of plumbers college, I would be thinking, well,
that's stupid, because like there will be leaks and bad
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plumbing if you make that a priority.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
This is like heart surgeons. Oh my god, it's obscene.
Do No Harm, A watchdog group that opposes racial preferences
analyze the last year's admissions data from twenty three public
medical schools. It found that at twenty two of the
twenty three Asian and white applicants who were accepted had
higher medical college admission test scores than their black peers,
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and the data showed that at more than half of
the schools, the average MCAT that's the big test score
of Asian and white applicants who were rejected was higher
than that of the mcat's score of black applicants who
were accepted. And that's called there's a name for it, racism. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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The Trump administration has launched a probe of the Duke
Law Journal and warns their medical school is up next,
as they are promoting racial references and racial standards for
who gets to publish, who gets to be on the staff,
who gets to earn the accolades. No white people need apply,
honest to God, this is Duke University with the law
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and medical schools. And then finally, that's a story in
the Wall Street Journal by a film by the name
of Colin Wright who was excluded at Cornell University from
a job for which he was eminently qualified, maybe the
most qualified guy in the country. They eliminated him purely
because he was a white man. And behind the scenes
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memos which were issued or found during the discovery process
for this suit. Said yeah, no, we're not going to
hire a white guy. Absolutely overt racism at America's universities
coast to coast, Minnesota to Miami. It's unbelievable. It needs
to take it apart, be taken apart. It's campus madness.
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Oh my god, what happened?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I love that little exclamation point. He stepped on a
nail or something. Well, she saw the madness around her,
You fool.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Wake up Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Geeddy Show.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Sam Altman of Open AI. He's been making the rounds
talking to various folks about how AI is going to
create just ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scats
of people out of work. And so he's pushing something
it's like universal basic income, but he calls it universal
extreme wealth, that everybody will just get the outflow of
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wealth from this technological marvel he and others are designing.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I like how blase they are about restructuring society in
ways nobody has ever done.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
In like six months from now, I mean, yeah, turning
us all into the idle rich and then it'll just
be grand and Marvey, think about the rich kids you
know that have been on trust funds their whole lives.
They've all got wonderful lives. So happiness and productivity right.
Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept that AI
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will automate most production and the public can share in
the revenue. Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce, says up to
half of the work at the company is now done
by AI. Oh my god. He is an evangelist for
universal basic income and said during the pandemic that he
sees COVID nineteen stimulus checks as a model for broader
income distribution. Oh wow, Mark, do you even read the news?
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But so you.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Emphasized the you and universal. I wasn't picturing that. So
we're all.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Gonna get a chunk of the money. Well then how
about is he gonna be welfare? It's just gonna float everybody.
But we'll fine.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But if you don't have a job that was affected
by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on,
is the point they're making.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I mean, right, So if you.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Don't have a job affected by AI, why would you
keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well? See that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as
more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will
drive income inequality one of the most overused in stupid
terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income quote for those who
cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for
raising a family or volunteering to help others. In other words,
a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians
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will decide who gets what. They will rout it to
cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will
just be uncountable scads of money. Now there are critics.
Not all of Silicon Valley is on board. Here's David Autor,
labor economist and MIT said the hypothetical society in which
the majority of income is distributed from a few sources
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is frightening in a political fantasy. Land support universal income
because quote, they think they're gonna put everyone out of work,
and they don't have a better idea for what to
do about that.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's this whole
thing you've described is completely unworkable in any realistic sense.
So I is anybody thinking about this? Is Congress thinking
about this.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
They should be if they're not interestingly. Venture capitalist Marc
Andreesen is my man in this uh. He says that
man was meant to be useful, to be productive, to
be proud, And if AI transforms every job, that's gonna
be a serious, serious challenge. That that's the big world's
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biggest understatement, serious challenge.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, i'd say again, I don't know if I buy
this story in the Washington Post today. It's happening. People
are starting to talk like talk like chat GPT. Actually
I don't believe this at all, and I use chat
GPT probably more than the average person. It says here,
if you use chat GPT, claw Odd, Gemini or other
AI powered chatbots, so claude which one's claud that it's
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a big one.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I can't remember whose that is, but I always start.
It's always on the lie.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I need to try that. I try. I try chat GBT,
and I do GROWK, but I haven't done the other ones.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It says, you're probably I'm operating under the assumption that
you're both speaking the same language. You input English, it
outputs English.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Except that's a misconception.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You've actually been speaking different languages.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
I find this fascinating.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Rather than processing text like a human, the chatbot turns
your prompt into an embedding, a group of numbers represented
in a vector space, kind of like coordinates on a map.
But just as a map is a representation of representation
of territory, this embedding is a flattened representation of language.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
The chatbot then formulates a reply.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Making a word by word prediction based on how it
was trained to answer pasted int. It sounds like it's
thinking and talking, but it's not. So This prediction the
chat the chatbot is making draws on biased training data,
the specific texts it learns from biased reinforcement learning, the
feedback it receives. Ultimately, what looks like English to you
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is really just you know, trying to take human speech
and make it sound real. But it's using the predictions
based on all the inputs that can be flawed, which
we all need to recognize, like immediately, I think it's
too late already. But the examples they give in here
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about how we're starting to talk like chat GPT, which
again I don't think is happening. Chat GPT uses the
word delve at higher rates than people use when writing
or speaking English according to a study, and well we
should examine, come a further study, come a look more
into that. But now people are starting to use it
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more often, according to this researcher in articles and speech,
because chat GPT.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Used it more often.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So it's pushing the way we talk more towards the
way it talks. And the checkers say that delve has
become more common in speech since chat GPT launched, and
delve is just one example of words that he uses.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Do you buy that at all? I just don't buy
this at all. I don't know. I read the same
piece and it says that part of it is that
the people who look over these systems that are like
the employees of the large language model companies, are often
low wage workers from like Nigerian Kenya, where delve is
used at a higher rate than in American or British English.
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I don't know. I don't think how intricate, commendable and meticulous.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
But I don't think I've picked up any say or
words from the chatbots that I just find that impossible
to believe. I do think that we all need to
recognize that it's all about it predicts the next word
based on all the inputs it's been getting from all
these different sources, and it's not actually thinking right but right,
you know, especially if you're using the audio one it
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sounds like a person and it calls me buddy.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So well, and if it predicts the answer that I'm
looking for, great, right, all right, it's not thinking. It's
not intelligence at all. It's just a glorified madlist Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
One of my favorite books I've ever read about politics
is the Myth of the Rational Voter. In the first
chunk of it, the main argument of it is, and
it's indisputable by the data, that there are certain economic
ideas and principles that people get wrong in much greater
numbers than they get right for some reason, like rent control,
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Like that con Man communist, the communist if you will,
zoron Mumdani in New York is trying to pitch you
hit people, young people with rent control. They will, in
overwhelming numbers say that's a great idea. But then a
little edumacation, a little life experience, they understand, Oh it's
a terrible idea. It's like the worst idea. But generation
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after generation people fall for certain economic arguments over and
over again. It's kind of interesting. Anyway. I'm reminded of
that when thinking about what we're going to play for
you believe it or not, it's a golfer at a
press conference. What Scotty Scheffler, who is the greatest golfer
on the planet, and more on that in a minute.
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But when it comes to what will make me happy,
I think a lot of human beings, most of us,
are like those youngsters who think great control is a
good idea. Generation after generation, we chase the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, this segment is about life satisfaction, not about golf.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh it's not. Oh my god, I was
going to go into a long discourse over the draw
versus the fade anyway, those are golf terms. Anyway. Yeah,
it's about life satisfaction. And so Scott Scheffler, who is
the greatest golfer on the planet currently and very very
well liked because he's very normal as a dude, happens
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to be a fairly devout Christian and a family manager.
You're about to hear very much. Not like Tiger the Assassin.
He's a great competitor in the rest of but he's
kind of a different guy anyway. They're asking him about
his superachievements this year and previous years at a press conference,
and this is what he said. We'll start with sixteen
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and go from there. Michael. You know, I think it's
kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
I think, you know, I think I said something after
the Buyer in this year about like it feels like
you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament
for like a few minutes and only lasts a few minutes,
that kind of euphoric feeling. And I like to win
the Buyer Nelson Championship at home. I literally worked my
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entire life to become good at golf to have an
opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it, you celebrate,
get to hug, hug my family, My sister's there at
such an amazing moment, and then it's like, Okay, now
what are we gonna eat for dinner?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You know, life goes on, go ahead, roll on.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Is it great to be able to win tournaments and
to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf?
Yet I mean it brings tears misers to think about
because it's literally worked my entire life. To become good
at this and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment,
I think is is a pretty cool feeling, you know,
to get to live out your dreams.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
It's very special. But at the end of the day,
it's like, I'm.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers.
I don't I'm not here to inspire somebody else to
be the best player in the world, because what's the point.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
You know, this is not a fulfilling life.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
It's it's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment, but it's
not fulfilling from a sense of like the deepest, you know,
places of your heart. You know, there's a lot of
people that make it to what they thought was going
to fulfill them in life, and then you get there
and all of a sudden, you get to number one
in the world and they're like, what's the point?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
And you know, I really do believe that.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I think I think most everybody has had that experience
or has that experience. At some point, you get the
whatever it is you've been wanting to get and okay, hmm,
the satisfaction of that didn't last very long, and you
have to wrestle with what am I?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
You know? What what am I doing? Or what do
I enjoy? Or why am I? Why am I getting
up every morning? Right?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And it's the process and just the daily life. My
dad was always really good at this, and just Youlays
use the example of taking out the trash. People don't
like complain about doing this and that, and that's what
life is. Life is taking out the trash and doing
the dishes and getting up and going to work and
raising all the things that you do that seem like
they're in the way of your That's what life is,
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right right, Let's throw along.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
You know, what is the point?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
You're like, why do I want to win this tournament
so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a
daily basis. It's like showed up with the Masters every year.
It's like, why do I want to win this golf
tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the
Open Championship so badly? I don't know, because if I win,
it's gonna be awesome for about two minutes, and then
we're going to get to the next week and it's
gonna be like, hey, you want two majors this year?
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How important is it for you? To win the fext cuplayoffs,
and it's just like we're back here again, you know,
So we really do. We work so hard for such
little moments, and you know, I'm kind of sick of
I love putting in the work, I love being able
to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams.
But at the end of the day, sometimes I just
don't understand the point, you know, because.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't know if I'm making any sense or not.
But am I not.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's just it's just one of those deals, you know.
I I love the challenge. I love being able to
play this game for a living. It's it's one of
the greatest joys of my life. But does it fill
the deepest, you know, wants and desires of my heart.
Absolutely not. I mean, I love playing golf. I love
being able to compete. I love living out my dreams.
I love being a father. I love being able to
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take care of my son. I love being able to
provide for my family out here playing golf. And you know,
every day when I wake up early to go put
in the work, you know, my wife thanks me for
going out and working so hard, and when I get home,
I try and thank her every day for taking care
of our son. It's just you know, that's why I
talk about families being my priority, because it really is.
You know, I'm blessed to be able to come out
here and play golf. But if my ever started affecting
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my home life or whatever affected the relationship I have
with my wife or with my son, you know that's
gonna be the last day that I play out here
for a living. You know, this is not the be
all and all. This is not the most important thing
in my life. And that's why I wrestle with why
is this so important to me? Because you know, I
would much rather be a great father than I wouldn't
be a great offer. You know that at the end
of the day, that that's what's more important to me.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
So, just to summarize, I think a lot of us
and I mean us. Oh, let me put this aside. Yeah,
the money's pretty good. He's made a hell of a
lot of money. He lives a great lifestyle. He doesn't
have to worry about money ever again, which is a
big deal if you've ever or are currently worried about money.
I get that. But having said that, I think all
(24:47):
of us, I think happiness is the like the triumph
or that's what we're looking for, or the falling in love,
or the big win or the fail or the congratulations
from the crowd or your contemporar is your colleagues even
but it's not there, right.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
So one thing that popped into my mind is it
reminded me of Woody Allen talking a lot in his book.
Woody Allen is a movie director, one of the most
famous movie directors of all time. If you don't know
who he is anyway, in his autobiography that he wrote
a couple of years ago, he loved making movies the
way this guy loves practicing and the process. But like
he'd finish the movie and be like, you just see
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what he's done and move on to the next one.
He's like, no enjoyment in the finished product. He'd never
watch him. He would never pay any attention to the refuse.
It was just the process was the only thing that
there was an enjoyment, The thing that most well, I
don't know most people, but a lot of people think
would be where you get the enjoyment. The finished product
or the winning the tournament or becoming the top salesman
(25:55):
or whatever is.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Not what you think it was gonna be. Yeah, you
can get quite satisfaction out of it, like he was
talking about. But the idea of like constant joy is
that the right word, uh, you know, happiness slash euphoria
slash cheerfulness slash excitement. That's just that's not what we
(26:18):
need to chase because it's illusory. It goes way so quickly,
you know, it was kind of it passed by so quickly.
But I can relate to and it's a great description.
So he wins a super giant golf tournament that that
millions of people around the world just dream of being
good enough to win that tournament, having the acclaim, getting
the check, blah blah blah, and then you know, half
(26:39):
an hour later, it's like, what do you want to
have for dinner? That's a pretty good description of the
way life really is. Yes, it's about the people you
care about. I mean, isn't that just the bottom line?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah? So, and I get I get well, I guess
the ultimate point would be you have to enjoy the
process of life, not making a movie or becoming a
golfer or whatever or whatever it does you do, just
process of life, the daily grind, which is what it
feels like a lot of times is what life is,
and you gotta find it. If you're waiting for the payoff,
(27:15):
it ain't coming.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Oh, folks, that was the payoff. The payoff is there's
no payoff, Kirk Bluie. That should be taught more.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think that that's not I think that's the opposite
of what our culture tends to tell us.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Right right right. The movie doesn't end. There's no end
to the movie. Your part is just written out now.
If you want to get it metaphysical and talk about
religion and life after death or whatever, that's a completely
different topic. But no, you don't win. You never win.
You just keep playing. Maybe that's how I would sum
(27:59):
it up.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
And if you enjoy it the best you can, well,
I think part of the reason that a person like
you know not to bring it back to golf, but
you could apply this to anybody. A guy like Tiger
Woods goes off the rails. I think he was probably
convinced that the payoff was going to be the payoff
and the thing, and it wasn't enough, and so he
needed all the women in the and whatever all other
weird things he was doing to try to get the
(28:23):
high that he needed.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Yeah, he wanted that fist pumping, yelling moment to like last,
that was the gold.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
So to the idea that there is no payoff, here's
here's the you know, here's the key thing to know
about life. There is no payoff. Can how many of us?
Can you look at the day today and I've got
a very mundane, routine day work, got an appointment with something,
somebody's gonna come fix something on my car, blah blah blah,
take care of the kids. Meal for saying?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Can I Can you get up every day and think
today is the payoff? This is the payoff? Today is
my payoff? Is that motivating? That is hard?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah? I don't know. I blew my own mind. The
great philosophers of the world have concerned themselves with this
very question, and they've come up with different answers.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I may have immobilized myself. I mean, I might not
be able to function the rest of the day. I'm
gonna lock up and they're going to carry me out
of here on ajourney ironic. Yeah, that would be unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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Speaker 4 (29:36):
And this is the reason I'm disgusted and embittered. This
is the most sausagey of sausage making. If you're familiar
with the old reference to politics, here's your headline from
the wa Pole. I'm gonna read you just a little
bit because it's kind of a revealing of at least
a couple of things. Trump's tax and immigration bill clears
(29:56):
Hurtle after late night vote to the House Budget. He
passed a massive tax and immigration package central President Trump's
agenda late Sunday, overcoming opposition from hardline conservatives, overspending four
fiscal conservatives all deficit hawks aligned with the ull truck
conservative House Freedom Caucus, changed their vote to present, allowing
(30:18):
the legislative monstrosity I injected that package to be recommended
favorably to the House by a vote of seventeen to sixteen.
But their hesitance to vote for the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act out of committee is a reminder that the
far right flank of the Republican Conference remains skeptical.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's interesting they call these people ultra conservative of right wing,
when not very many years ago you would have been
the center of the Republican Party. I mean that would
have been I mean, as like what the Republican Party was.
It was a term you would have used to define
the party.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
In fact, it was so intrinsic to the Republican Party
you'd feel silly and repeating what you just repeat it right,
that there's no need fiscally conservative.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
But I suppose in reality, given where most of the
party is, they are ultra right wing or ultra conservative
because the bulk of the party doesn't care apparently apparently
not voters.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
So spending your children and grandchildren into tax and spend oblivion.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well all right, Well this story got repeated a lot
over the weekend that we got downgraded on one of
our credit scores by one of the major organizations that
does that sort of thing. Yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Over the weekend it kind of.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Got put out there that it was like a Trump
thing because of tariffs or whatever. It was basically around
the fact that our debt is just so high. It's
just like this would happen to you if you go
to the bank and they take a look at your
well you've got with your car payments. Now you bought
like eight cars and two houses, and you're just you're
just overmaxed, So we can't.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Have eighty thousand dollars in credit card bills and you
only make ninety a year.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Right, right, So these jong grady because you just spend
more than you make. That's what happened. That didn't happen
just in the last one hundred days under Trump.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
We've been building this for a long time. And the
final reason I am completely embittered about the Republican Party
in politics and America and democracy and life on Earth
is the fact that, and it's a two part horror show,
Part number one is that there are a bunch of
(32:30):
swing district Republicans from big blue states California and New
York most notably, who are not only trying to defend
the idea of the salt deduction, the state and local
tax deduction, they want to raise it from ten thousand
dollars to at least thirty thousand dollars and maybe fifty
thousand dollars. Meaning, if you live in a tax and
(32:52):
spend lunatic state like say California, all of those incredibly
high taxes you're paying you can deduct from your federal
tax return, so the other states will subsidize the tax
and spend lunacy of New York and California.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
So my brothers in Kansas pay some of my taxes
because I live in California.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
That makes sense. Yeah, you get a giant subsidy from
the other states, you pay a lower federal tax rate,
significantly lower depending on you know, how much money you
make than folks in fiscally responsible states. As indefensible morally,
it's indefensible as for Republican reason, not the party, but
(33:35):
the idea of we have a federal system than states,
and the states can do what they want, and they
should do what they want.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
If you're fine, if Massachusetts wants to have a sixty
five percent income.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Tax, go ahead. I'm not living there, but go ahead.
But then to transfer that profligacy to the other states
is it's a horror. And as a conservative slash Republican,
he says, trying not to vomit because of my embitteredness,
the idea that that is a plank of the Republican Party.
(34:09):
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
It's it's hard to swallow. I mean it, you know,
it would help Joe and I if this happens financially,
But it's awful, absolutely awful.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I believe you can't defend it. No, it's it's it's
it's I am horrified. I don't care how much it
would benefit me. God bless me. I have principles. It's
really held me back in life. Jack too. I just
I'm done. I'm done. Yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Well, Like I said last week, Sarah Isger of The Dispatch,
I heard her on a podcast They're having this discussion
about party and she said, there are no political parties.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
What are we talking about here? Yeah? I need to
seek that out because I think she nailed absolutely, one
hundred percent. There are no political parties. There's just whoever
emerges as the candidate cycle by psych and then whatever
they believe the party goes along with. And it's true
on both sides. So the idea that there are parties
that stand for something, we need to all move past. That.
(35:09):
From my hero hl Menken, every election is a sort
of advanced auction sale of stolen goods. That's always been true.
There was a time when a certain party had certain
principles that I admired. Do you have time is past?
You know what my high school sweetheart, college sweetheart, my
(35:32):
wife of forty years is when she's not turning tricks.
She's killing people for the mob. Okay, she's not the
woman I felt at This is, by the way, fictional
illustration has nothing to do with my beloved bride Judith.
She's not the person she was. You can forget it.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's over, so move on.
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