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July 1, 2025 36 mins

Hour 2 of the Tuesday, July 1, 2025,  A&G Replay contains:

  • Progressive Mismanagement of School District in Milwaukee
  • Squeezing Blueberries / The Junior High School Dance
  • TEMU Spying / Wrong Hayek
  • Renaming Military Bases

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Armstrong and get Kid and he Armstrong and Getty Strong and.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Welcome to our replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.
We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some
good stuff for you?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
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up on.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
No on with the infotainment we mentioned earlier. Perhaps you
are here that the state of California has come up
with a pathetic transitional policy for high school sports where
there could be three winners of sporting events, the girls winner,
the boys winner, and the transgender boy who is pretending

(01:05):
to be a girl winner because they've realized it's just
utterly untenable and everybody hates it. The I did that
when a dude whoops up on the girls in sports
and stands there holding where I'm number one as they
receive the medal and denying the record, the medal, the scholarship,
whatever to an actual girl Anyway, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Talking about that later. Yeah. Sure, we'll get back into
that later.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
I have comments, okay, yeah, but I thought this was
really interesting. As someone who is beschlonged, I have comments elegant.
I'm reasonably self aware, and I understand that some people
think the stories about the crazy woke education thing might

(01:51):
be not picking overstated, or that's happening in a couple
of wacky school districts. Great piece by Daniel Buck. Yeah, yeah,
maybe that's that's true. One question persists in American education.
How pervasive are the stories of kindergarteners learning about transgenderism
or high schoolers waving Hamas flags and hallways.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I wonder about that a lot because I live in
one of the leading school districts in America for this
sort of progressive stuff, so I always wonder what it's
like for the rest of the country.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Well, and interestingly enough, my kids grew up about an
hour forty five minute drive from where Jack's kids are
growing up at in a very conservative part of California,
the school district of which has swung way left in
the last ten years. But he points out among the
four million teachers in the US, there will inevitably be

(02:39):
cranks and id logs who try to turn the classroom
into a pulpit. Examination of a typical American school district
and a typical American town reveals that the progressive mismanagement
school districts extends beyond the dark blue borders of San
Francisco and Portland, Oregon.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
They look at.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Wawa Tosa, Wisconsin, a suburb of Milwaukee, Ada, ridges it
cats politically split, very average Midwestern median home value middle class.
In other words, Wahwatosa is that fabled real America. What
happens in San Francisco may be an outlier, but what
happens in Wamwatosa likely happens in countless other districts.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
So what happens there? Well.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Three years ago, the Wawatas School Board proved a new
sex education curriculum, among other things, that expect sixth graders
to define different types of sexual intercourse.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Oh my, kindergarteners learn about genitalia past the whoever? Throughout
the bad idea phase? How does it get actually two?
All the steps you have to go before this ends
up in a classroom?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Good freaking god, I didn't even get halfway through the list.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, let's see the kids.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
The kindergarteners are learning about genitalia with the help of
cartoon drawings. Third graders and informed that no matter their
body parts, they may feel like another gender, just.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Like the founding fathers intended.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
The schools are teaching sixth graders about sex positions.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Notably, the newly adopted units are based on the National
Sex Education Standards, which encourage teaching third graders about puberty blockers.
That's right, third graders need to know about puberty blockers
and how to get them. Sixth graders need to know
about abortions and how.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
To get them.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
And students as young as kindergarten need to know about
gender identity.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Obviously, this explains my son getting into political arguments at
age thirteen because this stuff comes up in class all
the time.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well, and to that point, the red flags appear in
more than the curriculum. Wauwatosa is one of thousands of
districts who have adopted a restorative justice policy useless and
this is an alternative to traditional discipline structures that emphasize
dialogue over punishment and focuses on revising school policy rather
than changing student behavior.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Which I have called the golden age of bullying. While
we have more First Ladies' voting speeches and PSAs on
the radio about ending bullying, restorative justice is the golden
age of being a bully.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, it's great. There are no repercussions.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
And in fact, this school district retained a consultant to
investigate that sort of thing and to make it better.
And the final report dated May ninth reveals just a
couple of weeks ago that disruptive students received treats in
the form of food and beverages and a chance to
play games in the office instead of a standard detention
to know. In surprise, Wawaoto's schools have developed a reputation

(05:32):
for permissive discipline and frequent fights that chaos results. The
chaos that results from leniency has led to more expulsion
notices than is typical. And then this author goes into
various other racial balancing moves. Elimination of high achievement programs.

(05:55):
They closed a high performing STEMS school in the district.
I mean, the list goes on and on, eliminating advanced
math tracks, consolidating high school algebra, offering sixth graders a
chance to do accelerated course works the problematic.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
This is the equity part of DEI right exactly.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, and you know this is a guy who's a
fellow for the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty. But
there it is in the heartland of America. This stuff
running wild. And a final note, final ish a.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Story out of Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
You remember that horrifying deal where the guy was held
prisoner in his home for years and years till he
lit his room on fire and escaped, where the house
where his stepmother allegedly held him captive.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
And starved him for decades.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Horrible activists and teachers unions in Connecticut are trying to
make this about homeschooling, because if he'd been at school,
the teachers could have observed it and report here's the truth.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Though, this kid was.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
In school for a long time being starved and beaten,
with obvious signs of it, obvious documented over and over again,
and the state agency in charge of protecting kids failed
over and over again to protect him. But they're using
this as a club to beat homeschoolers with utterly inexplicable

(07:24):
If you think these monsters are going to give up
their turf easily, these cultists and greed heads at the teachers' unions.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You're just so wrong.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Final note, Supreme Court temporarily restored the right of a
duly elected main lawmaker's speak and vote in the state House.
She was censured over a Facebook post that included photos
of a transgender high school athlete. She said, this isn't
right particular sports, and so the way left main legislature
censured her and told her you don't get to vote

(07:56):
on legislation anymore. The Supreme Court response was swift and decisive, saying, no,
this is all squarely, completely horrifyingly clearly inside the First Amendment.
Stop it main These people are nuts and we're gonna

(08:19):
have to fight them for a long time.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Back to you, I get so frustrated with uh So,
my youngest takes one class at the in the school
district right now. Anyway, he was talking about how the
kids are on their phones all the time, how they
had a little quiz in line and some of the
kids didn't know the answers to some simple questions, and
he said, they're on their phones all the time. And

(08:41):
I said, well, doesn't the teacher do anything about it?
And he said, well, the teacher announces every once in
a while, you're not allowed to look at your phone,
but the kids do anyway, And I just that made
me insane. I mean, I was so upset by that.
I said to my son, I said, that's so easily solved.
You can saw but in like a minute, if you

(09:02):
look at your phone again, I'm taking it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And when the kid gets out their phone, you take it.
The end. Then no more kids do it for the
rest of the year.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Problem solved ideology can blind people to the most obvious
and massive truths.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
I guess that's some sort of horrifying afraid the disciplined
kids or they'll get sued or the tea.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't even know what that is. Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Well, once you go down the progressive road, Yes, that's
the sort of problem you're inviting.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, oh that makes me insane. I know that's a
problem all over the country. Good Forward, arm Strong, Yetti,
the Armstrong and Getty Show. I just went and that's
the worseries.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
A lady walked diver and she's standing in front of
me of the blueberries and strongberries, and she opened up
the blueberries and started touching them. After she squeezed the
blueberries she put them back and did it until she
grat the one she wanted and walked away.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Is that no yuck?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
She squeezed my blueberries is a beloved blues song by
old Blind Jimmy Differson.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
She squeezed the blueberries?

Speaker 4 (10:10):
That was I believe a kiwi.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Accent, which means you're awesome. Okay, France, that's correct. I
have purchased blueberries where you get them home and they're
all soft in machine and nobody wants to eat them.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, very disappointed.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
But I'm not going to open them up and squeeze
them ahead of time.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I just don't. I can eyeball them. You can. You
can tell how hard they are by eyeball them pretty effectively.
I'm a big blueberry consumer. Which fruits do you thump? Thump?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
What are your thumpable throats? A watermelon in a musk melon?
People hate when I say mus and muskmelon. It's candaloe
for the rest of you.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I guess I know.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
I've long found pineapples to be a bit of a
challenge in avocados.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Avocados I squeeze a little bit. I think you have to.
What should they feel like? If they're hard?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
They're not ready, And well, that's fine if you're gonna
serve avocados in three days, But if you're like gonna
whip up something tonight, you're gonna make you some squack
em holey.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
You can't have rock hard avocados.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
My son prefers the bananas when they're really green, and
I hate that flavor.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
That's tell you.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
My least favorite flavor on earth is a super green
banana black. Hmmm, You've had cow dung kicked into your mouth, right?
I often say that to my kids. This is the
worst thing I've ever tasted, and I've had cow excremented
in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Do you say excrement or thirteenagers? Do you drop the
S bomb? Because the joke's funnier with the S bomb.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, I think I usually say crap um. I was
at a restaurant, your dad, I get it. So they
had a get together last night at the junior high
because my son is getting out of sixth grade and
heading into junior high anyway, So the kids were there
and they're talking about how different junior high is and
this and that. But what got the most tittering among

(12:09):
the children was when they mentioned school dances. So this
will be entering the era of school dances for the
first time. There's a lot of looking around and shuffling
over that one. Some of the kids very excited about it,
mostly the girls. Some of the kids not excited about
it at all, mostly the boys.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Now, obviously you will be obligated to appoint a transgender
bell of the ball, fall, Queen, Homecoming queen, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
But we'll work that out when I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
The dances start in junior high. Remember the first dance
I ever attended egg was in seventh grade. Man, I
don't know if I've ever been more uncomfortable in my life.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
Oh my god, I just I remember as my kids
transitioned from elementary school to middle school, picking them up,
waiting for them outside or something, and seeing some of
the girls who were rather proud of their how do

(13:09):
I put this and not get arrested? Their their development
is adult females and more than proud enough to flaunt it,
and thinking.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
What the hell is you in eighth in eighth grade? Wow? Yes, yeah,
the whole concept.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Now, granted, in a warm weather climate, it's different than
we grew up in the Midwest. Right part of it
but some of the like those shorts are offully short
and that top is awfully tight.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Wow, I wasn't even thinking of like a sexual element
in the dances, but I suppose you know at this age, Yeah,
what are you gonna do it? Just in general, though,
why is the transition from grade school to junior high
such a big deal. I'm trying to remember my memory
is that that's like when it was like really out
there and in the open, the whole boy girl relationship thing.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Katie.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Yeah, I would think so, because you're I mean, I
don't know, there was something for me. There was something
about the words high school at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
So you weren't in elementary school.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
You were in junior high school, so you were you know,
you were one of the big kids.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, I see.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
I moved schools right then, So junior high was a crazy,
uncomfortable and an unhappy time for me. But I thought
it was just because I moved schools left all my
friends behind. But it might just be based on what
I was listening to teachers talk about last night. It's
it's tough for everybody at that age.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Plus especially for female For females, the differences yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
That shape. Seriously.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
That well, at least that change happened for me in
between elementary school and junior high school. I went away
for summer and came back. Hey, guys, Wow, I'll bet
that is something. Yeah, it's it's because it's uncomfortable, but
you want it to happen, but it's more uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, anything, I guess I've never really thought about it.
But yeah, at that age, if.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
You're going to show up to school with a different
of shoes, you're wondering, you know, what are people are
going to say about it? Or did you know showing
up with a different body? Holy crap.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
I was one of three girls that that happened to
that we showed up after that summer and it was drastic.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah. And did people comment on that? Oh yeah, non stop.
I know nicknames.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
I was called somebody called me dirty pillows and that
lasted with me all the way through high school.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh that's not a good nickname. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'm older, so probably you wouldn't have gotten away with
this as a teacher. But I remember teachers, teachers commenting
on the girls that had showed up back at school
and you know, looking different. Is that something teachers would mention.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It, commenting like mentioning, how.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Like have you seen Katie this year? Yeah, not the
same Katie as last year. Huh whoa as teachers would
say that, and everybody would be disgusting.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
It is weird. It's a different time. Somebody needs to
call to catch a predator on those people. You know.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
One that changes is pe classes when you start getting
dressed together and stuff like that. Right, that's one of
the things they mentioned that the pee class, you're gonna
start wearing I got pea clothes. You got shorts and
a T shirt and you're gonna have to change clothes.
So yeah, it'll be a new thing.

Speaker 6 (16:13):
Or the girls, which girls had to get bras, which
ones didn't. Oh, that was a big conversation, all the
girls peaking at each other.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah weird, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
But so they did announce that there are going to
be dances this year, and some people seemed horrified by it.
Some people seemed excited. I was horrified. You Katie as
a girl, seemed like the girls were more excited about it.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah. I loved it. Yeah, I'll bet Oh, the dress,
the makeup, the hair, all of it. Loved it.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Plus as girls you can run out there with just
your friends that are also girls and dance and run
have a good time.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's not yea. Well, it's an option for the boys,
but much scarier for the guys.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
The pressures on them too to ask the girl to
the dance and all that stuff that's n no.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I danced the first time.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
It had an eighth grade dance, and it's because some
girl came and asked me for the last dance of
the night. I can still remember the song Donna Summer.
Last dance. I was sweating bullets. I mean, I was just,
I was sulked in sweat. We were actually touching each
other because it was a slow dance and I was just,
I mean just my shirt was wet.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
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Speaker 3 (17:13):
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Speaker 7 (17:47):
Israel has had it up to here with fighting Iran's proxies,
and the giant raid on Iran on their military facilities,
on their nuclear facilities, killed their top three military commanders. Predictably, Hesbillah,
that's one of Iran's proxies. They condemned the attack and
they said they were awaiting instructions on how to respond.

(18:07):
Check your pagers, guys.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, crowd applauds like crazy, which is kind of interesting
because I was everybody who's thought this not an original thought.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I don't know if I've ever had an original thought, but.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'd like to go to a parallel universe where Kamala
Harris won the presidential election and she see how she
would be dealing with this whole thing between Israel and Iran.
You know that she would be daily lecturing Israel and
telling them they need to stop.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
And responding to her wokest you know, fifteen percent of supporters,
I'm sure. Yeah, I'm slightly ashamed that I didn't think
of this myself, but.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's a lot going on in the world these days.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Regular correspondent to JT in Livermore, California. Guys, if China
can build secret prisons within the US, they're more like
police stations with holding cells. But yeah, you know they're
going to be building drone armies here in the US,
maybe stored on those properties they're buying next to military bases.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
We hope they haven't already.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
Well, right, obviously the spring board of this is the
knowledge that Ukraine had facilities within Russia in which they
were constructing and or storing drones and waiting for the
right moment to attack. And JT helpfully sent along a
link to an article I believe we talked about at
the time. Maps showed Chinese owned farmland next to nineteen

(19:37):
US military bases in alarming threat to national security. Even
if they hadn't come up with that plan prior to
what Ukraine did and what Israel just did, they started
a week ago, they're doing it now. The New York
Post identified nineteen bases across the US from Florida, Hawaii

(19:57):
to Hawaii which were in close proximity to land by
Chinese entities and could be exploited by spies working for
the Communist nation.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
And if they can be, they will be.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
I said, it's you know, get that tattooed somewhere where
you can look at it regularly. If the Chinese communists
can use a capability against us, they will use it.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Just the question of when.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I gotta admit if I ever took off my shirt
and someone said, what does that to tattoos say? And
I say, it says if the Chinese government can exploit
a situation, they will.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's your tattoo. Yes, I just don't want to forget it, don't.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Robert Spaulding, retired US State's Air Force Brigadier general, Brigadier
general who's work focused on US general relations. Still the
post it's concerning due to the proximity of its strategic
or to our strategic locations, we are a big, rich,
naive moron as a country in a lot of ways.

(20:58):
Contrast that with Israel, if you will. Oh, speaking of which,
on a similar theme, I was thinking of going into
this in.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
A playful way.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Uh you know, maybe I will. All right, go ahead.
What is the app Tamu's business? Is it Timu or
tamu U?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Katie? You know t e m U. I've heard it
both ways. I say, team Timu.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Okay, fire enough, What is Timu's real business business? Okay,
hang on, now there's more. What is TikTok's real business.
There's one more for you. It's Shine right, that's the
cheap clothing. What is Shines real business?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I've never even heard of that one.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Or here's Pin Duo Duo. What is that app's real business?
Ah trick question. The answer for all of them is
collecting your data. They include a service along with that.
That's why you download the app. They are data collection
and surveillance apps. France today all Chinese. Yeah, okay, for

(22:05):
instance Pindo, although certainly the Chinese are not the only
voracious collectors of data.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, Mark Zuckerberg. Please.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
The Timu and Pin Duo Duo represent themselves as e
commerce apps that offer inexpensive merchandise, but they're also in
the business of data collection. The lawsuit, filed by Attorney
General Mike Hilgers of Nebraska says, according to an IT

(22:34):
security report firm report, Pin Duo Duo requests as many
as eighty three permissions, including access to biometrics, Bluetooth, Wi
Fi network information, and well obviously seventy or eighty more things.
As an aside, why is TikTok still happening in America,

(22:55):
mister president, because they gave you a big, giant contribution
to your your campaign or your inauguration. Them and their
lobbyists are paying off the administration. Get rid of TikTok.
Congress passed the law. It's time.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Isn't there a way for since Congress did pass a
lot to force the executive to do what you're supposed
to do legally.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, somebody's gotta like prove standing and that they've been
damaged by it and go to the courts. I guess
you'd think there'd be kind of a blanket. The law
said that, and it's not happening lawsuit that you could
file an ex post mirand or corpus lawsuit or something.
I don't know, but crazy. An investigation found by Montana

(23:43):
found that the Team app is designed to hide its
collection of sensitive information from users and from any researcher
who might be investigating the apps functionality. That's part of
its programming is to hide what it is doing. Team
will also have code that quote allows it to reconfigure
itself after being downloaded.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
What do you use TM move for? What's it? It's
a what dental hygiene? What do you use for?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know?

Speaker 6 (24:13):
You can you can buy anything on it. It's it's
like China's Amazon.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh okay, then why do we use in the United
States Because there's just a lot of cheap crap on
Super Cheap Okay, yeah wow, yeah wow. They are really
hoisting us on our own petards with the whole we
like cheap crap. Okay, so we'll develop an app that
can spy on every single American in the United States
who wants to buy extra cheap crap. And uh, they're
so hungry for their cheap crap and it is crap

(24:39):
most of it.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Uh that they'll allow us to spy on everybody right exactly.
And and keep in mind what I just said. Temu
has code that allows it to reconfigure itself after you
download it, so it becomes something different than you downloaded.
Blah blah blah. This is this is the part I
wanted to get to. The fear is that consumer products

(25:01):
marketing on Timu are the bait to get Americans to
download an app that gives the company and thereby the
Communist party, access to personal data, location tracking, and other
sensitive information. Article seven of the National Intelligence Law of
China is the Chinese communists on their own. You know,
I'm tempted to dig up that great piece we had
by was it?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Oh? No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Who is the guy who wrote ah? His name is
flitted out of my head? An unbelievable piece. Quoting Chinese
Intelligence Service officials on how valuable a resource TikTok is.
It quoted them chapter and verse, quote after quote after
quote from internal memorandum and meetings where the Chinese Intelligence

(25:44):
services said, wow, TikTok is.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
An unbelievable boon to what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
But anyway, here's Article seven of the National Intelligence Law
of China.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
Any organization or citizen shall support, assist, and cooperate with
the state intelligence work in accordance with the law, and
keep the secrets of the national intelligence work from becoming
known to the public. They are bound by law to
report anything that Chinese communists want to know. Well, we're fools,

(26:13):
we are, we want we freaking are. That's very maddening,
I know, don't you know? We've said enough? When when
the pooh hits the fan in whatever shape or array
of flung poo results, everybody will say, how did that happen?
I don't will I be some some sort of grimly

(26:36):
satisfied Now I want.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
To just be horrified. No, just horrified.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
On a cheerier note, love this, Andy Kessler, writing in
the Journal, Javier Malay's gift for Pope Leo. On June
the seventh, the new Pope, the Chicago Guy, met with
Argentine President Javier Malay at the Vatican. La gave the

(27:01):
Pope a historical document from sixteen forty two, cool, a
hand woven Vicunya poncho. Oh that's a Guargentine. Oh did
you got your machine woven Vicunya? Please throw it in
the trash. You're hand woven gorgeous. And he also gave
him Friedrich Hayek's book from nineteen eighty eight, The Fatal Conceit,

(27:23):
The Errors of Socialism. The book costs less than nineteen
dollars on Amazon, but it was the most valuable gift,
says Kessler. And he explains with some just fabulous quotes
from the book, which I need to read. I've read
quotes from it in my whole life. But Hiek's fatal
conceit is that quote. Man is able to shape the

(27:43):
world around him according to his wishes.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
That is the fatal conceit of humans.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
It's a hearty defense of free markets and of classical liberalism,
and Kesler mentions that his friend and colleague Matthew Henessy
got taken the task by Vice President Vance for defending
free markets.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
On these pages.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
In twenty twenty five, Hayak pounds home the point that
markets are about price discovery, wealth creation. Quote is determined
not by objective physical facts known to any one mind,
but by the separate differing information of millions, which is
precipitated in prices that serve to guide further decisions. Catch
that by buying and selling in free markets to determined prices,

(28:24):
you and I and millions who are connected but only
by signals resulting from long and infinitely ramified chains of trade,
we drive the economy, and we do it better than
self selecting know it alls who really know nothing.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
And he gave that book to the Pope. He did
because he thinks the pope or popes tend to lean
a little too socialist.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yes, indeed, I think that was his purpose. Let me
hit you with one or two more quotes from Hayek.
This is maybe my favorite. One's initial surprise at finding
that intelligent people tend to be socialists diminishes when one realizes,
of course, that intelligent people will tend to overvalue intelligence. Ah,
the curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men

(29:07):
how little they really know about what they imagine they
can design.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Planners are ill informed.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Quote to the naive mind that can conceive of order
only is the product of deliberate arrangement. It might seem
absurd that order and economic growth can be achieved more
effectively by decentralizing decisions, he notes, and he notes that
the fallacy because quote decentralization actually leads to more information
being taken into account man by millions of people who

(29:36):
don't even know they're doing it.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Salma Hayek for the win there.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
That would be Friedrich Hayek. Hmm wrong, Hyak right, very different, Hyak.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I love that, Love that Jack Armstrong and Joe, the
Armstrong and Getty show, Armstrong and getting showed.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
So this is a really good piece from the National
Review talking about how in politics and government, clever is
not always the same thing as good. Sometimes you use
cleverness to deceive and to pull off crap that shouldn't
be happening. They're talking about the Trump administration, the Department
of Defense renaming nine major military bases. You remember, back

(30:30):
in twenty three, the Biden Department of Defense changed the
names of all of these forts because they were named
after Confederates.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So that happened in twenty three. It's interesting because that happened.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
It started under George Floyd, where all kinds of things
were getting taken off schools and rivers and statues and
everything like that.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
But it took the twenty three that they changed the forts.

Speaker 4 (30:53):
Well right exactly, and so they named they renamed Fort Benning,
Fort Bragg, Fort Gordon, Fort ap Hill, Fort Hood, Fort Lee,
Fort Pickett, Fort Polk, and Fort Rucker. And then some
of the new Biden era installation names who were worthy individuals,
General hal Moore and his wife Julia Compton Moore, who

(31:14):
are the same namesakes of Fort Moore, and some of
the other ones they named for some pretty good people,
others who we are less inspired. Fort Bragg merely became
Fort Liberty, whatever that means.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean, I'm in favor of Liberty, certainly.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
But so now the army has announced and this is
the clever part, and I want to dislike this because
I think the editors in National Review want to dislike
it too.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
But I think I like it.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
The Army has announced it will redesignate these installations back
to their previous names, but with a twist. Fort Benning
is going back to Fort Benning, but this time it's.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Named for Corporal Fredgie Benning.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
First, no, you idiot, Fred Benning, a First World War
hero instead of Henry Benning, a general in the Confederate Army.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Fort Gordon is back to being Fort Gordon. It's now
named to honor Master Sergeant Gary Gordon, a Delta for
sniper awarded the Medal of Honor posthumously for his actions
at the Battle of Mogadishu. It's her Blackhawk down Mayhem.
So they've found great admirable Americans and the list, I

(32:28):
mean it gives you a chill, it warms your heart.
Distinguished Service Cross the recipient Colonel Robert B. Hood, who
showed extraordinary heroism in France during WW two. Oh I'm
sorry he was WW one. Fort Hood is now named
after Robert B.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Hood.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
So they found great loyal Americans with the same last
names and changed.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
The fort's back.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Fort Lee now named after Peggy Lee, who's sang how
much is that Doggie in the window?

Speaker 2 (33:00):
A timeless classic, no doubt. All right, So Jack, come on,
what do you think of this maneuver? Don't make it.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Seems jyvy as hell if but Fort Bragg is now
Fort Bragg again, but it's a different brag.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
So I guess I have to start at the premise
that we need the forts to have the same name,
because I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I'd buy that. I get what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
And then but if I accept that, it still doesn't
it still doesn't it change the fact that if you
are an actual racist and or fan of the Confederacy
and believe something should be named for Robert E. Lee,
that you know, Okay, I know what we're doing. You

(33:48):
got to say this for the other people. But we
we know, we know that you named it after the Confederates.
So cool, cool, We're with you.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
I mean, is it? I mean, I hate the term
dog whistle.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think at the time when I heard dog whizzle,
it's inaccurate or over boln But Smitchow actually be one.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
They mentioned in the National Review that very few Americans
who resisted the changing names in twenty three did it
out of affection for the Confederacy, right, they resisted because
of the spate of renaming seemed to be part of
the re woke cultural.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Reprove It all came with taking Thomas Jefferson's name off
of the school and everything.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
It was all happening at the same time, right, which
is why at the beginning of the show I think
it is, we have a recording saying from the Abraham
Lincoln Studios that the George Washington, you know, broadcast complex.
That was a reaction to that, and the idea was
that no, no, no, if we let you start with
the Confederate generals, you're gonna end up turning the Washington
Monument into the transsexual Monuments or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Sure, just the next thing, you know, that's what. Yeah,
I don't know, I don't know. This is clever, but
is it smart?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Well, it's just yeah, they'll just go away, you know what. Yeah,
that's that's kind of a head scratcher. Different people have
different opinions. You want to email us about this mail
bag at Armstrong e Getty dot com or drop us
a note four one five two nine five KFTC to
the idea.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
That it wasn't actually you know, fans of the Confederacy
or racists that were fighting this. How many people ever
thought for a second about who Fort Bragg was named after.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
You just referred to it as Fort Bragg because that's
what you knew it was called.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I mean, it's just I didn't do they they look
back on it, and then how how many buildings, bridges,
whatever do you encounter every day in your life?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You know, across the Robinson Bridge as back up today, Robinson?
Who Robinson? I don't know why it's the Robinson Bridge.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Nobody ever asks or cares, right, Yeah, Judy and I'll
actually occasionally search on that sort of thing when we're
taking road trips. Wow, the John G. Robinson Bridge, want
us you figure out who John G.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Robinson was? Just to make the mind is Gobiden. It's
kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
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