August 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 4 of the Wednesday, August 27,2025 A&G Replay contains:
- No one Watches Cable News/ Jack's Sunset
- FLQ : Sowell pref treatment and Mail: Cable News & Funny Fascists
- Jack's July Florida Vacation Chess Lesson
- Gen Z Most Useful Idiots
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 5 (00:46):
Sir, probably heard that you're supposed to get like ten thousand
steps a day, but according to new research, just seven
thousand steps a day could be enough to improve your health.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you I hear six?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It really sounds like scientists have lowered their expectations for us,
explains by the new Surgeon General warning on cigarettes as
do not smoke during pregnancy unless it's your second kid.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then what else?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah? I like the jokes, but the problem is the
original ten thousand step thing was completely made up. The
problem with a lot of health stats, and we're about
to get into some here, is they're misinterpreted regularly. Oftentimes
they're very, very small, preliminary studies that the researchers themselves
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would never put out there as a national story to
talk about. But it's something exciting about something that can
cause cancer or eliminate cancer or whatever, and so the
media goes crazy with it. And then there's studies that
are paid for by like, you know, mattress companies or
candy bars or whatever, and low and behold, the study
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says eating more chocolate leads to better sex life or whatever.
You know, So sure you gotta watch out for that.
Before we get to that stuff. Couple of things real quick.
First of all, can we make a vow? We need
to make a vow. I don't think we can keep it,
but we should try. We should make a vow every
day and work toward this goal to stop talking about
cable news as if anybody's watching it because nobody is.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So that's so fine with me, Yeah, I agree. But
anytime you talk about Jake Tapper said this or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It might be interesting for some reason, but nobody is
watching that show. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm just I'm looking at this stats that byron Yorke
just put out from Fox. It's more likely you're watching
a Fox show. Certainly, but uh, CNN's total audience during
their five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and eleven PM hours.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You're cherry picking.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Added together don't beat one showing of the five, which
is not even one of Fox's highly rated shows. Oh
so talking about anything on CNN or MSNBC really is who.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are you talking to? Boy?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It is the ultimate example of something holding on to
just any reputation based entirely on its gloried pass and.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
By people who are old enough to remember when it mattered.
If you're younger, you don't even know what it is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So right, Well, it's on in airports inexplicably.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We got this CNN have a picture of the head
of the FAA with a mule or something. I mean,
how is CNN on in airport's all over America? That
is almost that is almost certainly the explanation.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Anyway, moving along, we got this text about that horrible
story in New York, the shooting. I just wanted to
deal with it real quick. In case I did use
sloppy language. You're putting out fake news again. The shooter
in New York never played in the NFL. I didn't
mean to imply that he did. I thought I said
he was a high school star and that's where he's current.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You never stated anything that could be taken to indicate
that he in the NFL. Well, I guess you made
reference to other Okay, yeah, whatever, that's fine, Okay, fine,
he didn't play in the NFL, but he did see
some budsman weighing in there.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He did seem to be blaming that brain mouth function
that you can get from playing football, though, as he
had a note about that and shot himself in the
chest and wants his brain to be studied, Which doesn't
make him some sort of anybody to look up to
because he killed a bunch of innocent people like a scumbag. Right,
if you didn't get enough sleep last night, you've doubled
your chance of gang green.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I hope you're happy. Oh no, not another bout of
gang cream. Another bout. It ruined my summer vacation. Oh wow,
it certainly ruined my beach. Look my beach body getting
to big studies.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
This is pretty damned interesting and a bit of a breakthrough.
I think we've been talking about sleep stuff a lot.
Everybody that I know deals with sleep issues, or if
you're getting enough, they found a way pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
With having instead of self.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Reporting about sleep, which is all you had to really
go on up until fairly recently. Now you can have
everybody wear these little devices that report on how much
sleep you're actually getting. And there are way too many
fake long sleepers in all studies we've ever heard. They
actually that's what they actually call them, fake long sleepers
in studies we've heard about through our whole lives. It's
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people maybe like me, who report a certain number of
hours asleep but actually get much less. If you actually
wear a device that measures how much you're sleeping, just
because you're in bed and semi unconscious, that amount of
time doesn't mean you're actually sleep sleeping. And so they
had people wear these devices trying to track how much
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like actually you were a sleep sleep you got. The
numbers are a lot lower, and so those other numbers
skewed everything we've ever had about sleep because you got
a whole bunch of people in there claiming they sleep
eight hours a night and they're actually sleep in six.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Is anybody struck anybody else struck by the hilarious irony
of self reporting sleeping habits? I mean, if there's one
one period of my life I can't really account for.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's when I'm asleep. True.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's the largest study of its kind ever. Researchers strapped
fitness trackers on nearly ninety thousand adults per week, followed
their health for almost seven years. Among people who claimed
to sleep more than eight hours a night late nearly
a twenty two percent, so a fifth we're actually getting.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Six or less.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's a big chunk of people who thought they were
getting eight hours of sleep and are getting six or less.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's that's enormous.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yes, statistically, that's like, why are you even talking about
the previous numbers? They're ridiculous, right, But let me jump
to the headlines from it, other than the headline that
everything you've ever heard about sleep studies is fake because
of what do they call them, lying bastards?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's not what they call them, fake long sleepers. My
bastards would be too harsh, that'd be appropriate. Uh, sleep
rhythm matters more than sleep duration. Inconsistent or weak. Daily
sleep rhythms were linked to eighty three diseases and then
they list them and we could get into that later
with the sleep rhythm ing when you're going in and
out of RAM like happens. If you've ever learned anything
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about sleep disease, burden is comparable to smoking or obesity.
Up to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's. These numbers can't
be true, can they? Up to thirty seven percent of
Parkinson's and thirty six percent of type two diabetes could
be attributed to disrupted sleep patterns.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's a lot that. That's an extraordinary claim. I am,
I got my fur up p too. I'm very free.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wow. What's what's our source here? What's our publication? Is this?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's a dirty Chinese research led by doctor Quinn Chen
Army Medical University in cheng Wang Peck Peaking University. Okay,
are you concerned that the Chinese are trying to infiltrate
our sleep device?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I'm highly skeptical about all of this. The idea
that bad sleep rhythms are more serious a problem than
we understand, that's perfectly reasonable. But a bunch of commis
there at p King. I thought we're supposed to say
Beijing these days. Maybe they kept the name for the university.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
The study linked various sleep problems to one hundred and
seventy two different diseases across virtually every system in the
human body.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Some diseases showed dramatic associations.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
For example, people with the most disrupted sleep rhythms face
more than triple the risk of age related physical debility.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't really doubt that. Well, yeah, but triple, But
I don't doubt that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Your previous sentence about Parkinson's caught my ear, partly because
both my mom and my grandfather died of complications from Parkinson's.
But so little is known about what causes Parkinson's. I mean,
could there be some correlation without causation, or or half
and a half. That's that's utterly unclear to me.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
But my guess would be that whoever wrote this article
took the numbers and presented it as if its causation went.
It could just be those two things to go together
for unknown reasons. But I wanted to get back this
because I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, you could be.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You've got a gene mutation that causes poor sleep rhythms
and parkinson for instance, Parkinson's for instance.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Sure, so people with the bad sleep triple the risk
of age related physical debility. Also, you doubled the risk
of gangreen compared to those with the robust sleep patterns.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah again, don't I eliminate the any chance of gangreen
by getting a tennis shot.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Ruin my beach vacation. It's it's hurt my golf game.
The gang green.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It's terrible. How many people have you ever known gotten gangreen?
Unless you're one hundred and eighty years old. My dating
life has been poorer for it. Listen, you're a great guy,
but you're gangrenous.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I saw you, I saw your hinge profile, and
you mentioned the gangreen right up toward the top.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So it shouldn't have been a surprise anyone. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So this sentence, this is the one you're having trouble with.
And researchers estimated that up to thirty seven percent of
parkins Parkinson's disease risk.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I exactly shut that. That means nothing. Sorry, I hate
to be a kill joy, killing anything for me. I
didn't write this study. I have no investment in this
brought it to us.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need a meeting, A long meeting, okay, a sort
of questions, long meeting, prolonging questions.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I would not be surprised if a lot of the
problems we have though in the modern world is people
not getting.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Decent sleep.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah. Yeah, And I've become re re re re re
re re convinced about the omnipresence of screens and smartphones
being a reason for people's mental problems. Recently, I heard
it presented in a religious context by a man of
the cloth who was repeating what I think man is
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known for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But well, I'll just say what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Leave time in your life for God, Leave time in
your life for prayer and meditation and contemplation.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Put down your damn screen. You know.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I didn't even do this on purpose. It has just
kind of happened for a variety of reasons. But I've
been on this kick all summer long. Of at sunset,
I schedule my evening around this. At sunset, I ride
my bike to the edge of town. It's about two
and a half miles, and then I'm looking at a wheatfield.
I'm from Kansas, so I like seeing the sunset over wheatfields.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I'm there.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm looking at this wheatfield with the sunset, and I
do this combination of prayer and affirmations and just kind
of talking to myself or whatever. I don't bring my
voe in and I do it every night, and it
has become like my favorite part of the day. Like
I just say, oh boy, I got to get this
done because the sunset's coming, because it's just there's clearly
some like nourishment I'm getting from that that I look
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forward to it, and I really go out of my
way to make sure I've arranged so that I can
do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Wow, I mean it's just organically making me want to
do it every night.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I have a similar ritual.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I drink myself incoherent and fall asleep muttering angrily about
the people who've wronged.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Me with fox on really loud some nights. Yes you
do you, man, you do you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I've actually been lately thinking how am I going to
keep this going when the days are shorter and the
sun setting at five point thirty and dinner and blah
blah blah, or it's rain.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know, but I'm going to miss it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I got to come up with a with a substitute
for when the beautiful weather over because it has become
super important to me.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It's not as good idiotape it and watch it on
your screen. Carried around on my phone, but don't like
say wow, that was really good. That was really soothing.
Now that I have my screen open, though, let's do
a little doom scrolling.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, no, right, Jack, Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day from the
great Thomasoil, still celebrating his ninety fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
My favorite thinker. Certainly in your top five.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Elections should be held on April sixteenth, the day after
we pay our income taxes. That is one of the
few things that might discourage politicians from being big spenders.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
He probably said that long before we reached the point
that half of people don't pay taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. So insidious but successful
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Speaker 2 (14:10):
If you like, keep it as short as you can.
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
On the topic of conspiracy theories, John says. We talked
about that a great deal in the fourth hour of
yesterday's show. If you missed it, grab it by a
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should follow us
or subscribe it. The one thing every human has to
understand is that human nature never changes.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Slavery, wars, a conquest. It's been happening for thousands of
years everywhere. It's really that simple.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Hug your kids, live your life, especially if you're born
an American. I feel sorry for and have compassion for
people in many countries. They don't have the protections and
constitution that we have here.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm gonna grab my last beer for the night, spend
tomorrow running around from job to job trying to get
crap done. Fortunately, my wife and kids and I will
go to bed feeling safe.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You should think every day you live in the United States,
where there's zero chance a rocket is going to rain
in to your house today.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Zero. Yeah, that's not one of the most lots of places.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
One of the most interesting things I've ever learned about
psychology is that human beings seem to have a set
point for how much they need to worry, and if
they have little or nothing to worry about, the invent
things to worry about because they have to have that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's part of our animal psychology. Let's see how about
this JT. And Livermore.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I agree with Joe that the best way to discredit
lefty ideas is to implement them, unless it isn't take
the teacher For the record, I don't advocate implementing them.
I'm just saying if they are implemented, they will be
the most scathing indictment possible of those policies.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But anyway, take the teachers' unions.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
They implemented their policy of getting rid of phonics, the
most successful reading program in the history of the world,
and replaced it with an unproven whole word concept that
created worse outcomes for many many.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Children, and my kids lived through that era. They were betrayed.
They were seriously betrayed.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
While it did supose the left's willingness to experiment with
children's educations absent any proof that their new and improved
concept was better than phonics, the price for exposing their
stupidity was way too high, Emily a generation of children
that have lower and worse reading outcomes.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Or take Biden's open border policy.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It exposed the stupidity of the left's love affair with
the legal immigration, but at the cost of education, healthcare, culture,
to say nothing of the financial cost voting in Mamdami
in New York would be like those examples. Sure, it
would once again discredit the ideas the left, but at
a cost that is simply too high. So I'd like
to amend your philosophy. The best way to discredit left
the ideas is to implement them, but only if they
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can be confined to being implemented against lefties and only lefties.
Let liberals opt in for the whole world reading and
new math and restoreative justice.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But don't expect me to fund their failures. Amen to
that brother. Oooh yeah, truth at for the win, as
they say, truth Bob.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
That's right, Jay Wright's the first Democrat that crosses the
line and works Trump will be embraced enthusiastically. Trump would
probably give that official more than expected, just to prove
that he can make the deal, maybe daka who knows. Sadly,
Dems appear to prefer the sidelines, squawking in their own
mess well, generally about fundraising to stay in office. Yeah,
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who did I just read wrote a great piece that
the Democrats have just absolutely tied themselves to thirty seventy issues.
Oh it is Victor Davis Hansen across the Aisle do
stuff that people believe in anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack or Joe
podcasts and our hotlinks.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I went to Florida South Beach for a couple of days,
then went down to Key West, rented a house. We
were down there for a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I talked to a number of people who worked at
restaurants and what not while I was in Florida, and
they were talking about how awesome it was during COVID
in Florida to be in their industry because people were
coming from all over the country because they didn't shut down.
They shut down for a couple of weeks total. Then
we're up and running like it was normal. The wrong
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death sentence I remember that right. Well, the rest of
the country was acting like you can't do that, everyone
will die. They're talking about how awesome it was down there.
And I doubt that these servers were like conservatives. I
mean they could have been, but they looked like liberals.
I mean they're island hippies with you know, things through
their nose and uh and you know the usual. But
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it's really interesting that that happened. Part of the country said, yeah,
we're gonna pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And everything was fine. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Sometimes counties that are practically side by side took wildly
different approaches, and when one worked way better than the other,
the people who went with the bad approach said nothing.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, drove or flew back up to New York because
it was too hot. He just got too hot with
too much beach sun. Sam and I flipped our jet
ski rented a jet skis a double jet ski, and
I was somehow we flipped it. He was driving, and
that ended up costing me a lot of money, because
if you flip it and ruin the motor, then you
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got to pay for it part of the deal you sign,
and so that cost me a lot. But so we
flipped it, and I was panicked about trying to get
it turned back up forgetting the warning they had made
about all the barnacles in the bottom and stay away
from it. And sliced my knee open so bad and
was bleeding all over the place. And I'm glad shark
didn't come eat us, because that would have sucked.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
AnyWho. Oh, agreed, Yeah, that would be a terrible thing
to happen.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
We just getting eaten by a shark. Yes, so we
uh just does it look? By the way, how's your knee?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Look? Is it healing? Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, it's the same knee I heard on my motorcycle wreck.
So I have no feeling in it because of damage
it so much in the so I couldn't even tell.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But I got myself bleeding all over.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I was gonna say, because refrash is a thing,
and I don't know if barnacles are similar, but if
you like, scrape yourself on a wreath, there's so much
my krobia life in there. My brother, a healthy, strong
naval officer, he got refresh.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And it was horrible to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, they told us about that some trip we took
out to see a reef in Key West. I don't
remember they.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Were telling us about that. AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So we fly up to New York because it was
too hot and decided to do something else, and we
go and we spend several days in New York and
we're at this park where all the people are playing chess,
just like I'd seen in movies.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Do they do that?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
In cities all across the country or is that local
in New York? Did they do that in Chicago? You're
Chicago guy.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Oh gosh, it's when I picture it, I picture it
in New York.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. I think it's a New York thing, And I
need to do some research because I don't really know
what it is or how it works, like do they
make how do they make money, or do they make
money or what what's exactly going on there. I've just
seen in movies where all the people are playing chess
in these parks. Well, my son is obsessed by chess,
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as I've talked about several times, although he's still a beginner,
And the whole time on the trip, he said, I
want to play chess in the park with one of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I want to play chills. So he really wanted to
do that.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So we're walking through Washington Square Park after we watched
the weird hippie chick doer art that I talked about
earlier get the podcast if you didn't hear that, and
he said, there's a guy he's not doing aything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I want to go play chess. And I said, okay,
so we go over there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I very quickly figure out that this guy, he's probably
sixty old black guy. He sounds exactly like Tracy Morgan
from Saturday Night Live. So when I'm doing my impersonation,
if it sounds like that, that's why, because that's what
the guy's I like. He's hammered drunk, just hammered drunk,
sitting there at the chess table. And he said, what's
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your what's your name, Henry? What's your rating, Hendry? And
Henry told him I don't know whatever his number is
on his rating, because you get a chess rating when
you're on chess dot Com. Oh yo Againner, Okay, Henry,
Well then I won't play you. I will give you
a lesson. Five dad, five dollars for a lesson.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, fine, And.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He is down there and it was just one of
the most amazing, interesting things I've ever witnessed. Henry walked
away from it saying, this is the coolest thing I've
ever done in my life.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But it was so strange. The guy was so drunk.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
For one thing, he had the really drunk guy eyes,
you know, where they're like really glassy yes and watery,
and he kept shoving shoveling these he had a paper
bag with him. He'd brought sandwiches from home. This gets
to the I don't know what these people are doing,
if they make money doing this, or is this your job?
I mean, I guess you play them for money.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
A good friend of the show is a friend of
mine just texted the New York chess hustlers usually play
for a few bucks.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They're usually very good.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was unbelievable, as drunk as
this guy was. Hell, I'm gonna give you a lesson, Henry.
You'll remember this arrest of your life. First of all,
number one, Get one thousand and one chess moves, get
the book and he names the guy Dad, buy him
that book. Okay, and uh, they set up the chess
pieces and they start to play. Let me see how
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good you are, Henry. So they play for a little bit,
and Henry would go to make a movie. He put
it back, Henry, Henry put it back. No, Henry, think
about it, Henry. And so, so then we do that.
It's okay, So let me give you a lesson. And
so then he gives him a lesson and he's sitting
by and he's shoveling this sandwich that he made into
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his mouth, and.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Parts of it are getting in his mouth, but.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Most of it's not, and the rest of it's just
like falling on his shirt and onto the chessboard, and
he'd have to wipe the chunks and sandwich away as
he's moving the chessboarder. At one point, he kicks over
his half a bottle of Miller lte and it tips
over and rolls between my legs.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, he's just he's a.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Drunk like he seems like a homeless guy. Yeah, I
don't even know what's going on there, Henry. I'm gonna
give you a lesson. Now, the best guy in the park,
that guy over there with the sunglasses on, he's the
best player in the park right now. Nobody will play
him again, Which gets to my if nobody will play
you because you're so good, how do you make any money?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm not sure how this works. Hey, you gotta wait
for somebody strong.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
My chess playing friend also pointed out that it's a
thing among chess enthusiasts. There are there are videos of
grand masters going under cover and playing these guys and
appreciating how good someone.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh yeah, this dude was amazing when Henry was actually playing,
and how fast he would move and how he saw
the whole board was to be as drunk as he
was hots was really quite amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Was he really drunk or do you think this was
part of the hustle?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
No, he was drunk. I know a drunk guy, and
he was very drunk. And there were many people playing chess.
It was mostly dude sitting at empty chess tables waiting
for somebody to come playing for whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Anyway, So his lesson was, Henry, let me ask you
a question.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You're a home by yourself, and outside the door there
was a gorilla and two dogs. Okay, a gorilla and
two dogs. Wow, they knock down the door and they
come in the house. What do you do, Henry, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I called my dad. You don't have a phone, Henry.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
What do you do when the gorilla and the two
dogs coming home?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And it was just like this the whole time. It
was so wild hand the dogs and punched the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No, I guess I worry about the dogs because I
can't fight a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, Henry, Henry, that is wrong. What is the biggest threat?
Henry the gorilla. That's right.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
The gorilla is the biggest threat. So do you see
where my queen is right now? That is your biggest threat.
Get rid of the gorilla, Henry, And so Henry moved
and got rid of the queen. Now you don't have
to worry about the gorilla. Do you see where my
two dogs are?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Henry? And it was just like that through the whole thing.
This went on for like forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It was incredibly entertaining and really interesting imagery to try
to figure out some chess strategy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
For a few bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
For five bucks place, that's the best money you've ever
spent in your life.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Did the entertainment.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Alone, let alone the chess lesson? It was really so
it was like out of a freaking movie. And I thought,
what are you? I mean, his clothes, he looked like
a homeless person. I mean, his shoes had holes in him.
He smelled bad, he's spitting his sandwich all over, he's hammered, drunk,
but brilliant at chess. I just so, I don't know
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what's going on there.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, I think we've all known people like that, whether
they're musicians or writers or what have you, that they
have an incredible level of capability at one thing, but
not so much on life skills or hanging on to
a job for instance, or don't want to right for
whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
God dang it, that was interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like I said, Henry walked away from saying that was
the greatest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In my life. He really really liked it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Both the chess lesson and just the entertaining flare of
the whole thing was so well again, like straight out
of a flip and movie.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the downside was you didn't get a chance to
talk about the big beautiful bill on the air since
you were on your vacation.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
On our vacation didn't come up in conversation with anyone.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
A round up of different people, many of them conservatives,
and their takes on that message.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Gorrilla is in your home, You're gonna worry about the
dogs first. Think about it, Henry, to try to imagine
that anyway, So you keep spitting sandwich all over, I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The dogs are happy with the sandwich.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Leavings arms.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The Armstrong and Getty show. Well, I sound this very interesting.
I was considering trying to cram these two things together.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
The incredible radicalization of young women around the world as
their male companions. They don't have companions, but as the
males of their generation are swinging to the right. Not
not a lot, but some. And how weird and interesting
that is. But we'll do that another time.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I want. I'm just gonna go with this.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It was a piece written by Mark Penn and Andrew Stein,
and they're both Democrats. Penn, you may reize recognized his name.
He was a polster and advisor to the Clintons in
the nineties and two thousands. And this other guy was
a New York City council president for a number of
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years in the eighties and nineties. But the title is
gen Z the Useful Idiot Generation. Young people usually become
less radical with time. Are we seeing an exception? And
they go into describing, you know, hippie Vietnam War protesters
who got jobs, got married, and had children. Exactly, wash
(29:05):
your damn dirty hippie feet. Now their grandchildren see them
tethered to Fox News. Today's young Americans are following the
first part of that pattern. Ask a group of them
to choose between capitalism and socialism. They'll split right down
the middle, and he goes into the nominating horrifying Zorn Mundami,
who says he wants to capture the means of production.
(29:28):
I've heard that phrase. Yeah, you know what, Oh, I
ought to get into the PolitiFact thing. Someday PolitiFact rated
is false, the idea that Mundami's a communist. And then
when it came out that he said we need to
seize the means of production, which is straight out of
the communist manifesto, they said incomplete data anyway, But will
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the young people outgrow their radicalism? And this is the
part they really intrigued me. There's reason to doubt it.
Record numbers of gen z are persu doing higher education,
with fifty three percent of those eighteen to twenty four
having completed at least some college. That's a troubling sign
given how left wing ideology has come to dominate higher education.
(30:12):
And again, these are two mainstream democrats writing colleges where
many young people learn that socialism means free stuff. They're
indoctrinated to blame capitalism for racism, inequality, and climate change.
Unlike the older generations, they grew up after the end
of the Cold War and have no memory of the
atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Maoist China and other
(30:33):
socialist regime regimes.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I have no memories is an interesting way to put it.
I didn't live through most of that stuff, my memories
or because somebody taught them to me.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, that's an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And he said, they say, maybe they'll see socialism and
action in New York. But here's the really intriguing part. Meanwhile,
the process of growing up is slowing down. They're talking
about what I mean. It's not automatic that a young,
ideal stick way left person becomes a conservative. It happens
through processes, experience, mugged virality exactly, the process of growing
(31:11):
That's actually a great phrase. The process of growing up
is slowing down. The median age of first marriage is thirty,
almost five years later than it was in nineteen eighty five,
and that means that young people settle down and take
on responsibilities later, if they ever do. Nearly half of
Gen Z adults aren't are not in a committed romantic relationship.
(31:35):
They largely live communally, often work from home, and are
connected primarily through the four plus hours they spend each
day on their phones. Their primary sources of information are
TikTok and Facebook, whose algorithms lead them to material that
reinforces their preconceptions rather than challenges them four.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Hours a day on their phones. What would they have
been doing before, Because I mean, that's the whole opportunity
cost thing. Only so many hours in the day, there
would have been more television watching back in the day,
But all four hours wouldn't have been taken up with that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
No, but lots and lots and lots of relating to
real human beings who don't feed you agreement based on
their algorithms. In my experience, my friends, my girlfriends, my wife,
my family, they all feel free to disagree with me
semi regularly in a way that Facebook and TikTok never will.
(32:29):
They will, with all due respect to your sister in
law who constantly posts garbage that you hate. Those algorithms
again lead them to material it reinforces their preconceptions.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think much other than that your real life. Maybe
that's not true anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I was about to say, your real life, you don't
talk about politics nearly at all, as opposed to being
bombarded with it on your whatever device you're looking at.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, but I think in general, because I actually do
agree with that, but in general, real life life quote
unquote is much more messy and much less catering to
you in a hundred different ways than virtual life is,
which tends to lead people toward less two EI to
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idealistic progression.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I'm going to tell people I know, from now on,
I want you to I'm going to use an algorithm,
and I want you to feed me things I only
want to hear. Only say things I want to hear
or I'm interested in.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
They would make a squinty face and say, no, I'm
not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And there's more.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Another traditional source of ballast, religion has been become lighter
as well. More than one third of gen Z reports
zero religious affiliation. Roughly sixty percent did not participate in
religious services growing up.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That produces a lack of moral grounding.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
We've had a really interesting couple of conversations about that.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Let's not get off on.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That, but yeah, I don't know if you could make
a blanket statement of lack of moral grounding because you
didn't participate organize religion, right.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
But their greater argument is the things, the inputs, the
influences in life that tended to make you more realistic
and therefore more conservative are missing, including religion. Put this
all together, and it's little wonder that about half of
eighteen to twenty year olds twenty four year olds tell
pollsters that they support Hamas over Israel. Hammas specifically, not
(34:26):
the Palestinian people efing Hamas. By and large, these young
adults aren't hardcore ide logs. They're merely ignorant. About half
of young Hamas supporters say they don't want to wipe
out Israel.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
They prefer to state solution.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Call them the useful idiot generation, mouthing slogans and causes
they don't understand and from which they would recoil if
they did again.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This was written by Democrats.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, and that's you know, the Queers for Palestine thing
is the perfect example of that. It's the useful idiot generation,
valthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which
they would recoil if they did. Well.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
A guy like Mark Penn, who worked for the Clintons.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
He realizes Democrats are never going to win another major
election and let they unless they get this under control.
So he's trying to figure out why do were young people.
Why are they so crazy? That's what he's trying to
figure out. Final couple of sentences. The older generations are
not blameless here. We created the environment that produced this
unmoored generation. Socialism and anti Semitism will continue to fester
(35:28):
and grow if we don't stand up and reform our universities,
reinforce our basic values, and balance our social media.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I agree completely.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I am.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I am sticking with the idea that.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Reforming our education systems or tearing them down and building substitutes,
is the most important issue for America for the next
fifty years.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Back tomorrow, the all stopped at his shower.
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Speaker 5 (00:46):
Sir, probably heard that you're supposed to get like ten thousand
steps a day, but according to new research, just seven
thousand steps a day could be enough to improve your health.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Do you I hear six?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
It really sounds like scientists have lowered their expectations for us,
explains by the new Surgeon General warning on cigarettes as
do not smoke during pregnancy unless it's your second kid.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Then what else?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah? I like the jokes, but the problem is the
original ten thousand step thing was completely made up. The
problem with a lot of health stats, and we're about
to get into some here, is they're misinterpreted regularly. Oftentimes
they're very, very small, preliminary studies that the researchers themselves
(01:31):
would never put out there as a national story to
talk about. But it's something exciting about something that can
cause cancer or eliminate cancer or whatever, and so the
media goes crazy with it. And then there's studies that
are paid for by like, you know, mattress companies or
candy bars or whatever, and low and behold, the study
(01:51):
says eating more chocolate leads to better sex life or whatever.
You know, So sure you gotta watch out for that.
Before we get to that stuff. Couple of things real quick.
First of all, can we make a vow? We need
to make a vow. I don't think we can keep it,
but we should try. We should make a vow every
day and work toward this goal to stop talking about
cable news as if anybody's watching it because nobody is.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So that's so fine with me, Yeah, I agree. But
anytime you talk about Jake Tapper said this or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It might be interesting for some reason, but nobody is
watching that show. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'm just I'm looking at this stats that byron Yorke
just put out from Fox. It's more likely you're watching
a Fox show. Certainly, but uh, CNN's total audience during
their five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, and eleven PM hours.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You're cherry picking.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Added together don't beat one showing of the five, which
is not even one of Fox's highly rated shows. Oh
so talking about anything on CNN or MSNBC really is who.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Are you talking to? Boy?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It is the ultimate example of something holding on to
just any reputation based entirely on its gloried pass and.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
By people who are old enough to remember when it mattered.
If you're younger, you don't even know what it is.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So right, Well, it's on in airports inexplicably.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We got this CNN have a picture of the head
of the FAA with a mule or something. I mean,
how is CNN on in airport's all over America? That
is almost that is almost certainly the explanation.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Anyway, moving along, we got this text about that horrible
story in New York, the shooting. I just wanted to
deal with it real quick. In case I did use
sloppy language. You're putting out fake news again. The shooter
in New York never played in the NFL. I didn't
mean to imply that he did. I thought I said
he was a high school star and that's where he's current.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
You never stated anything that could be taken to indicate
that he in the NFL. Well, I guess you made
reference to other Okay, yeah, whatever, that's fine, Okay, fine,
he didn't play in the NFL, but he did see
some budsman weighing in there.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He did seem to be blaming that brain mouth function
that you can get from playing football, though, as he
had a note about that and shot himself in the
chest and wants his brain to be studied, Which doesn't
make him some sort of anybody to look up to
because he killed a bunch of innocent people like a scumbag. Right,
if you didn't get enough sleep last night, you've doubled
your chance of gang green.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I hope you're happy. Oh no, not another bout of
gang cream. Another bout. It ruined my summer vacation. Oh wow,
it certainly ruined my beach. Look my beach body getting
to big studies.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
This is pretty damned interesting and a bit of a breakthrough.
I think we've been talking about sleep stuff a lot.
Everybody that I know deals with sleep issues, or if
you're getting enough, they found a way pretty simple.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
With having instead of self.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Reporting about sleep, which is all you had to really
go on up until fairly recently. Now you can have
everybody wear these little devices that report on how much
sleep you're actually getting. And there are way too many
fake long sleepers in all studies we've ever heard. They
actually that's what they actually call them, fake long sleepers
in studies we've heard about through our whole lives. It's
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people maybe like me, who report a certain number of
hours asleep but actually get much less. If you actually
wear a device that measures how much you're sleeping, just
because you're in bed and semi unconscious, that amount of
time doesn't mean you're actually sleep sleeping. And so they
had people wear these devices trying to track how much
(05:52):
like actually you were a sleep sleep you got. The
numbers are a lot lower, and so those other numbers
skewed everything we've ever had about sleep because you got
a whole bunch of people in there claiming they sleep
eight hours a night and they're actually sleep in six.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Is anybody struck anybody else struck by the hilarious irony
of self reporting sleeping habits? I mean, if there's one
one period of my life I can't really account for.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's when I'm asleep. True.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's the largest study of its kind ever. Researchers strapped
fitness trackers on nearly ninety thousand adults per week, followed
their health for almost seven years. Among people who claimed
to sleep more than eight hours a night late nearly
a twenty two percent, so a fifth we're actually getting.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Six or less.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
That's a big chunk of people who thought they were
getting eight hours of sleep and are getting six or less.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's that's enormous.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Yes, statistically, that's like, why are you even talking about
the previous numbers? They're ridiculous, right, But let me jump
to the headlines from it, other than the headline that
everything you've ever heard about sleep studies is fake because
of what do they call them, lying bastards?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
That's not what they call them, fake long sleepers. My
bastards would be too harsh, that'd be appropriate. Uh, sleep
rhythm matters more than sleep duration. Inconsistent or weak. Daily
sleep rhythms were linked to eighty three diseases and then
they list them and we could get into that later
with the sleep rhythm ing when you're going in and
out of RAM like happens. If you've ever learned anything
(07:22):
about sleep disease, burden is comparable to smoking or obesity.
Up to thirty seven percent of Parkinson's. These numbers can't
be true, can they? Up to thirty seven percent of
Parkinson's and thirty six percent of type two diabetes could
be attributed to disrupted sleep patterns.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's a lot that. That's an extraordinary claim. I am,
I got my fur up p too. I'm very free.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Wow. What's what's our source here? What's our publication? Is this?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's a dirty Chinese research led by doctor Quinn Chen
Army Medical University in cheng Wang Peck Peaking University. Okay,
are you concerned that the Chinese are trying to infiltrate
our sleep device?
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, I'm highly skeptical about all of this. The idea
that bad sleep rhythms are more serious a problem than
we understand, that's perfectly reasonable. But a bunch of commis
there at p King. I thought we're supposed to say
Beijing these days. Maybe they kept the name for the university.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
That's a good question.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
The study linked various sleep problems to one hundred and
seventy two different diseases across virtually every system in the
human body.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Some diseases showed dramatic associations.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
For example, people with the most disrupted sleep rhythms face
more than triple the risk of age related physical debility.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I don't really doubt that. Well, yeah, but triple, But
I don't doubt that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Your previous sentence about Parkinson's caught my ear, partly because
both my mom and my grandfather died of complications from Parkinson's.
But so little is known about what causes Parkinson's. I mean,
could there be some correlation without causation, or or half
and a half. That's that's utterly unclear to me.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
But my guess would be that whoever wrote this article
took the numbers and presented it as if its causation went.
It could just be those two things to go together
for unknown reasons. But I wanted to get back this
because I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Well, you could be.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
You've got a gene mutation that causes poor sleep rhythms
and parkinson for instance, Parkinson's for instance.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Sure, so people with the bad sleep triple the risk
of age related physical debility. Also, you doubled the risk
of gangreen compared to those with the robust sleep patterns.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah again, don't I eliminate the any chance of gangreen
by getting a tennis shot.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Ruin my beach vacation. It's it's hurt my golf game.
The gang green.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It's terrible. How many people have you ever known gotten gangreen?
Unless you're one hundred and eighty years old. My dating
life has been poorer for it. Listen, you're a great guy,
but you're gangrenous.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Well, I saw you, I saw your hinge profile, and
you mentioned the gangreen right up toward the top.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So it shouldn't have been a surprise anyone. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So this sentence, this is the one you're having trouble with.
And researchers estimated that up to thirty seven percent of
parkins Parkinson's disease risk.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I exactly shut that. That means nothing. Sorry, I hate
to be a kill joy, killing anything for me. I
didn't write this study. I have no investment in this
brought it to us.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
We need a meeting, A long meeting, okay, a sort
of questions, long meeting, prolonging questions.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I would not be surprised if a lot of the
problems we have though in the modern world is people
not getting.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Decent sleep.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah. Yeah, And I've become re re re re re
re re convinced about the omnipresence of screens and smartphones
being a reason for people's mental problems. Recently, I heard
it presented in a religious context by a man of
the cloth who was repeating what I think man is
(11:16):
known for thousands of years.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
But well, I'll just say what he said.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Leave time in your life for God, Leave time in
your life for prayer and meditation and contemplation.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Put down your damn screen. You know.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I didn't even do this on purpose. It has just
kind of happened for a variety of reasons. But I've
been on this kick all summer long. Of at sunset,
I schedule my evening around this. At sunset, I ride
my bike to the edge of town. It's about two
and a half miles, and then I'm looking at a wheatfield.
I'm from Kansas, so I like seeing the sunset over wheatfields.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So I'm there.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I'm looking at this wheatfield with the sunset, and I
do this combination of prayer and affirmations and just kind
of talking to myself or whatever. I don't bring my
voe in and I do it every night, and it
has become like my favorite part of the day. Like
I just say, oh boy, I got to get this
done because the sunset's coming, because it's just there's clearly
some like nourishment I'm getting from that that I look
(12:18):
forward to it, and I really go out of my
way to make sure I've arranged so that I can
do it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Wow, I mean it's just organically making me want to
do it every night.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, I have a similar ritual.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I drink myself incoherent and fall asleep muttering angrily about
the people who've wronged.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Me with fox on really loud some nights. Yes you
do you, man, you do you.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I've actually been lately thinking how am I going to
keep this going when the days are shorter and the
sun setting at five point thirty and dinner and blah
blah blah, or it's rain.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know, but I'm going to miss it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I got to come up with a with a substitute
for when the beautiful weather over because it has become
super important to me.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
It's not as good idiotape it and watch it on
your screen. Carried around on my phone, but don't like
say wow, that was really good. That was really soothing.
Now that I have my screen open, though, let's do
a little doom scrolling.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, no, right, Jack, Armstrong and Joe.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Here's your freedom loving quote of the day from the
great Thomasoil, still celebrating his ninety fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
My favorite thinker. Certainly in your top five.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Elections should be held on April sixteenth, the day after
we pay our income taxes. That is one of the
few things that might discourage politicians from being big spenders.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
He probably said that long before we reached the point
that half of people don't pay taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. So insidious but successful
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Speaker 2 (14:10):
If you like, keep it as short as you can.
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
On the topic of conspiracy theories, John says. We talked
about that a great deal in the fourth hour of
yesterday's show. If you missed it, grab it by a
podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. You should follow us
or subscribe it. The one thing every human has to
understand is that human nature never changes.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Slavery, wars, a conquest. It's been happening for thousands of
years everywhere. It's really that simple.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Hug your kids, live your life, especially if you're born
an American. I feel sorry for and have compassion for
people in many countries. They don't have the protections and
constitution that we have here.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm gonna grab my last beer for the night, spend
tomorrow running around from job to job trying to get
crap done. Fortunately, my wife and kids and I will
go to bed feeling safe.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You should think every day you live in the United States,
where there's zero chance a rocket is going to rain
in to your house today.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Zero. Yeah, that's not one of the most lots of places.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
One of the most interesting things I've ever learned about
psychology is that human beings seem to have a set
point for how much they need to worry, and if
they have little or nothing to worry about, the invent
things to worry about because they have to have that.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's part of our animal psychology. Let's see how about
this JT. And Livermore.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I agree with Joe that the best way to discredit
lefty ideas is to implement them, unless it isn't take
the teacher For the record, I don't advocate implementing them.
I'm just saying if they are implemented, they will be
the most scathing indictment possible of those policies.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But anyway, take the teachers' unions.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
They implemented their policy of getting rid of phonics, the
most successful reading program in the history of the world,
and replaced it with an unproven whole word concept that
created worse outcomes for many many.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Children, and my kids lived through that era. They were betrayed.
They were seriously betrayed.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
While it did supose the left's willingness to experiment with
children's educations absent any proof that their new and improved
concept was better than phonics, the price for exposing their
stupidity was way too high, Emily a generation of children
that have lower and worse reading outcomes.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Or take Biden's open border policy.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
It exposed the stupidity of the left's love affair with
the legal immigration, but at the cost of education, healthcare, culture,
to say nothing of the financial cost voting in Mamdami
in New York would be like those examples. Sure, it
would once again discredit the ideas the left, but at
a cost that is simply too high. So I'd like
to amend your philosophy. The best way to discredit left
the ideas is to implement them, but only if they
(16:36):
can be confined to being implemented against lefties and only lefties.
Let liberals opt in for the whole world reading and
new math and restoreative justice.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
But don't expect me to fund their failures. Amen to
that brother. Oooh yeah, truth at for the win, as
they say, truth Bob.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
That's right, Jay Wright's the first Democrat that crosses the
line and works Trump will be embraced enthusiastically. Trump would
probably give that official more than expected, just to prove
that he can make the deal, maybe daka who knows. Sadly,
Dems appear to prefer the sidelines, squawking in their own
mess well, generally about fundraising to stay in office. Yeah,
(17:16):
who did I just read wrote a great piece that
the Democrats have just absolutely tied themselves to thirty seventy issues.
Oh it is Victor Davis Hansen across the Aisle do
stuff that people believe in anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
The Armstrong and Getty Show, Yeah, or Jack or Joe
podcasts and our hotlinks.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I went to Florida South Beach for a couple of days,
then went down to Key West, rented a house. We
were down there for a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
I talked to a number of people who worked at
restaurants and what not while I was in Florida, and
they were talking about how awesome it was during COVID
in Florida to be in their industry because people were
coming from all over the country because they didn't shut down.
They shut down for a couple of weeks total. Then
we're up and running like it was normal. The wrong
(18:17):
death sentence I remember that right. Well, the rest of
the country was acting like you can't do that, everyone
will die. They're talking about how awesome it was down there.
And I doubt that these servers were like conservatives. I
mean they could have been, but they looked like liberals.
I mean they're island hippies with you know, things through
their nose and uh and you know the usual. But
(18:39):
it's really interesting that that happened. Part of the country said, yeah,
we're gonna pretend it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And everything was fine. It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Sometimes counties that are practically side by side took wildly
different approaches, and when one worked way better than the other,
the people who went with the bad approach said nothing.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah, drove or flew back up to New York because
it was too hot. He just got too hot with
too much beach sun. Sam and I flipped our jet
ski rented a jet skis a double jet ski, and
I was somehow we flipped it. He was driving, and
that ended up costing me a lot of money, because
if you flip it and ruin the motor, then you
(19:23):
got to pay for it part of the deal you sign,
and so that cost me a lot. But so we
flipped it, and I was panicked about trying to get
it turned back up forgetting the warning they had made
about all the barnacles in the bottom and stay away
from it. And sliced my knee open so bad and
was bleeding all over the place. And I'm glad shark
didn't come eat us, because that would have sucked.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
AnyWho. Oh, agreed, Yeah, that would be a terrible thing
to happen.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
We just getting eaten by a shark. Yes, so we
uh just does it look? By the way, how's your knee?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Look? Is it healing? Okay?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, it's the same knee I heard on my motorcycle wreck.
So I have no feeling in it because of damage
it so much in the so I couldn't even tell.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But I got myself bleeding all over.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Well, I was gonna say, because refrash is a thing,
and I don't know if barnacles are similar, but if
you like, scrape yourself on a wreath, there's so much
my krobia life in there. My brother, a healthy, strong
naval officer, he got refresh.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And it was horrible to get rid of.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, they told us about that some trip we took
out to see a reef in Key West. I don't
remember they.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Were telling us about that. AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
So we fly up to New York because it was
too hot and decided to do something else, and we
go and we spend several days in New York and
we're at this park where all the people are playing chess,
just like I'd seen in movies.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Do they do that?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
In cities all across the country or is that local
in New York? Did they do that in Chicago? You're
Chicago guy.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Oh gosh, it's when I picture it, I picture it
in New York.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah. I think it's a New York thing, And I
need to do some research because I don't really know
what it is or how it works, like do they
make how do they make money, or do they make
money or what what's exactly going on there. I've just
seen in movies where all the people are playing chess
in these parks. Well, my son is obsessed by chess,
(21:06):
as I've talked about several times, although he's still a beginner,
And the whole time on the trip, he said, I
want to play chess in the park with one of
those guys.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I want to play chills. So he really wanted to
do that.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
So we're walking through Washington Square Park after we watched
the weird hippie chick doer art that I talked about
earlier get the podcast if you didn't hear that, and
he said, there's a guy he's not doing aything.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I want to go play chess. And I said, okay,
so we go over there.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I very quickly figure out that this guy, he's probably
sixty old black guy. He sounds exactly like Tracy Morgan
from Saturday Night Live. So when I'm doing my impersonation,
if it sounds like that, that's why, because that's what
the guy's I like. He's hammered drunk, just hammered drunk,
sitting there at the chess table. And he said, what's
(21:52):
your what's your name, Henry? What's your rating, Hendry? And
Henry told him I don't know whatever his number is
on his rating, because you get a chess rating when
you're on chess dot Com. Oh yo Againner, Okay, Henry,
Well then I won't play you. I will give you
a lesson. Five dad, five dollars for a lesson.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, fine, And.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
He is down there and it was just one of
the most amazing, interesting things I've ever witnessed. Henry walked
away from it saying, this is the coolest thing I've
ever done in my life.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
But it was so strange. The guy was so drunk.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
For one thing, he had the really drunk guy eyes,
you know, where they're like really glassy yes and watery,
and he kept shoving shoveling these he had a paper
bag with him. He'd brought sandwiches from home. This gets
to the I don't know what these people are doing,
if they make money doing this, or is this your job?
I mean, I guess you play them for money.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
A good friend of the show is a friend of
mine just texted the New York chess hustlers usually play
for a few bucks.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They're usually very good.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it was unbelievable, as drunk as
this guy was. Hell, I'm gonna give you a lesson, Henry.
You'll remember this arrest of your life. First of all,
number one, Get one thousand and one chess moves, get
the book and he names the guy Dad, buy him
that book. Okay, and uh, they set up the chess
pieces and they start to play. Let me see how
(23:15):
good you are, Henry. So they play for a little bit,
and Henry would go to make a movie. He put
it back, Henry, Henry put it back. No, Henry, think
about it, Henry. And so, so then we do that.
It's okay, So let me give you a lesson. And
so then he gives him a lesson and he's sitting
by and he's shoveling this sandwich that he made into
(23:35):
his mouth, and.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Parts of it are getting in his mouth, but.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Most of it's not, and the rest of it's just
like falling on his shirt and onto the chessboard, and
he'd have to wipe the chunks and sandwich away as
he's moving the chessboarder. At one point, he kicks over
his half a bottle of Miller lte and it tips
over and rolls between my legs.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean, he's just he's a.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Drunk like he seems like a homeless guy. Yeah, I
don't even know what's going on there, Henry. I'm gonna
give you a lesson. Now, the best guy in the park,
that guy over there with the sunglasses on, he's the
best player in the park right now. Nobody will play
him again, Which gets to my if nobody will play
you because you're so good, how do you make any money?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I'm not sure how this works. Hey, you gotta wait
for somebody strong.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
My chess playing friend also pointed out that it's a
thing among chess enthusiasts. There are there are videos of
grand masters going under cover and playing these guys and
appreciating how good someone.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh yeah, this dude was amazing when Henry was actually playing,
and how fast he would move and how he saw
the whole board was to be as drunk as he
was hots was really quite amazing.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Was he really drunk or do you think this was
part of the hustle?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
No, he was drunk. I know a drunk guy, and
he was very drunk. And there were many people playing chess.
It was mostly dude sitting at empty chess tables waiting
for somebody to come playing for whatever.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Anyway, So his lesson was, Henry, let me ask you
a question.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You're a home by yourself, and outside the door there
was a gorilla and two dogs. Okay, a gorilla and
two dogs. Wow, they knock down the door and they
come in the house. What do you do, Henry, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I called my dad. You don't have a phone, Henry.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
What do you do when the gorilla and the two
dogs coming home?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And it was just like this the whole time. It
was so wild hand the dogs and punched the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
No, I guess I worry about the dogs because I
can't fight a gorilla.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, Henry, Henry, that is wrong. What is the biggest threat?
Henry the gorilla. That's right.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
The gorilla is the biggest threat. So do you see
where my queen is right now? That is your biggest threat.
Get rid of the gorilla, Henry, And so Henry moved
and got rid of the queen. Now you don't have
to worry about the gorilla. Do you see where my
two dogs are?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Henry? And it was just like that through the whole thing.
This went on for like forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It was incredibly entertaining and really interesting imagery to try
to figure out some chess strategy.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
For a few bucks.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
For five bucks place, that's the best money you've ever
spent in your life.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Did the entertainment.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Alone, let alone the chess lesson? It was really so
it was like out of a freaking movie. And I thought,
what are you? I mean, his clothes, he looked like
a homeless person. I mean, his shoes had holes in him.
He smelled bad, he's spitting his sandwich all over, he's hammered, drunk,
but brilliant at chess. I just so, I don't know
(26:33):
what's going on there.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, I think we've all known people like that, whether
they're musicians or writers or what have you, that they
have an incredible level of capability at one thing, but
not so much on life skills or hanging on to
a job for instance, or don't want to right for
whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
God dang it, that was interesting.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Like I said, Henry walked away from saying that was
the greatest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
In my life. He really really liked it.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Both the chess lesson and just the entertaining flare of
the whole thing was so well again, like straight out
of a flip and movie.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Well, the downside was you didn't get a chance to
talk about the big beautiful bill on the air since
you were on your vacation.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
On our vacation didn't come up in conversation with anyone.
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
A round up of different people, many of them conservatives,
and their takes on that message.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Gorrilla is in your home, You're gonna worry about the
dogs first. Think about it, Henry, to try to imagine
that anyway, So you keep spitting sandwich all over, I
don't know what to say.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
The dogs are happy with the sandwich.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Leavings arms.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The Armstrong and Getty show. Well, I sound this very interesting.
I was considering trying to cram these two things together.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
The incredible radicalization of young women around the world as
their male companions. They don't have companions, but as the
males of their generation are swinging to the right. Not
not a lot, but some. And how weird and interesting
that is. But we'll do that another time.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I want. I'm just gonna go with this.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It was a piece written by Mark Penn and Andrew Stein,
and they're both Democrats. Penn, you may reize recognized his name.
He was a polster and advisor to the Clintons in
the nineties and two thousands. And this other guy was
a New York City council president for a number of
(28:42):
years in the eighties and nineties. But the title is
gen Z the Useful Idiot Generation. Young people usually become
less radical with time. Are we seeing an exception? And
they go into describing, you know, hippie Vietnam War protesters
who got jobs, got married, and had children. Exactly, wash
(29:05):
your damn dirty hippie feet. Now their grandchildren see them
tethered to Fox News. Today's young Americans are following the
first part of that pattern. Ask a group of them
to choose between capitalism and socialism. They'll split right down
the middle, and he goes into the nominating horrifying Zorn Mundami,
who says he wants to capture the means of production.
(29:28):
I've heard that phrase. Yeah, you know what, Oh, I
ought to get into the PolitiFact thing. Someday PolitiFact rated
is false, the idea that Mundami's a communist. And then
when it came out that he said we need to
seize the means of production, which is straight out of
the communist manifesto, they said incomplete data anyway, But will
(29:50):
the young people outgrow their radicalism? And this is the
part they really intrigued me. There's reason to doubt it.
Record numbers of gen z are persu doing higher education,
with fifty three percent of those eighteen to twenty four
having completed at least some college. That's a troubling sign
given how left wing ideology has come to dominate higher education.
(30:12):
And again, these are two mainstream democrats writing colleges where
many young people learn that socialism means free stuff. They're
indoctrinated to blame capitalism for racism, inequality, and climate change.
Unlike the older generations, they grew up after the end
of the Cold War and have no memory of the
atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Maoist China and other
(30:33):
socialist regime regimes.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I have no memories is an interesting way to put it.
I didn't live through most of that stuff, my memories
or because somebody taught them to me.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, that's an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And he said, they say, maybe they'll see socialism and
action in New York. But here's the really intriguing part. Meanwhile,
the process of growing up is slowing down. They're talking
about what I mean. It's not automatic that a young,
ideal stick way left person becomes a conservative. It happens
through processes, experience, mugged virality exactly, the process of growing
(31:11):
That's actually a great phrase. The process of growing up
is slowing down. The median age of first marriage is thirty,
almost five years later than it was in nineteen eighty five,
and that means that young people settle down and take
on responsibilities later, if they ever do. Nearly half of
Gen Z adults aren't are not in a committed romantic relationship.
(31:35):
They largely live communally, often work from home, and are
connected primarily through the four plus hours they spend each
day on their phones. Their primary sources of information are
TikTok and Facebook, whose algorithms lead them to material that
reinforces their preconceptions rather than challenges them four.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Hours a day on their phones. What would they have
been doing before, Because I mean, that's the whole opportunity
cost thing. Only so many hours in the day, there
would have been more television watching back in the day,
But all four hours wouldn't have been taken up with that.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
No, but lots and lots and lots of relating to
real human beings who don't feed you agreement based on
their algorithms. In my experience, my friends, my girlfriends, my wife,
my family, they all feel free to disagree with me
semi regularly in a way that Facebook and TikTok never will.
(32:29):
They will, with all due respect to your sister in
law who constantly posts garbage that you hate. Those algorithms
again lead them to material it reinforces their preconceptions.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think much other than that your real life. Maybe
that's not true anymore.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I was about to say, your real life, you don't
talk about politics nearly at all, as opposed to being
bombarded with it on your whatever device you're looking at.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, but I think in general, because I actually do
agree with that, but in general, real life life quote
unquote is much more messy and much less catering to
you in a hundred different ways than virtual life is,
which tends to lead people toward less two EI to
(33:15):
idealistic progression.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I'm going to tell people I know, from now on,
I want you to I'm going to use an algorithm,
and I want you to feed me things I only
want to hear. Only say things I want to hear
or I'm interested in.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
They would make a squinty face and say, no, I'm
not doing that.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
And there's more.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Another traditional source of ballast, religion has been become lighter
as well. More than one third of gen Z reports
zero religious affiliation. Roughly sixty percent did not participate in
religious services growing up.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That produces a lack of moral grounding.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
We've had a really interesting couple of conversations about that.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Let's not get off on.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
That, but yeah, I don't know if you could make
a blanket statement of lack of moral grounding because you
didn't participate organize religion, right.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
But their greater argument is the things, the inputs, the
influences in life that tended to make you more realistic
and therefore more conservative are missing, including religion. Put this
all together, and it's little wonder that about half of
eighteen to twenty year olds twenty four year olds tell
pollsters that they support Hamas over Israel. Hammas specifically, not
(34:26):
the Palestinian people efing Hamas. By and large, these young
adults aren't hardcore ide logs. They're merely ignorant. About half
of young Hamas supporters say they don't want to wipe
out Israel.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
They prefer to state solution.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Call them the useful idiot generation, mouthing slogans and causes
they don't understand and from which they would recoil if
they did again.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This was written by Democrats.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, and that's you know, the Queers for Palestine thing
is the perfect example of that. It's the useful idiot generation,
valthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which
they would recoil if they did. Well.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
A guy like Mark Penn, who worked for the Clintons.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
He realizes Democrats are never going to win another major
election and let they unless they get this under control.
So he's trying to figure out why do were young people.
Why are they so crazy? That's what he's trying to
figure out. Final couple of sentences. The older generations are
not blameless here. We created the environment that produced this
unmoored generation. Socialism and anti Semitism will continue to fester
(35:28):
and grow if we don't stand up and reform our universities,
reinforce our basic values, and balance our social media.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I agree completely.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
I am.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I am sticking with the idea that.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Reforming our education systems or tearing them down and building substitutes,
is the most important issue for America for the next
fifty years.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Back tomorrow, the all stopped at his shower.
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