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July 31, 2025 36 mins

Hour 4 of A&G features...

  • Trade deal with Mexico & Kamala for President??
  • Bonus Mailbag!
  • Gas station heroin, another new drug & AI notes! 
  • Last Thoughts! 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and
Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Former Vice President Kamala Harris announcing she will not run
for governor of California next year. Harris says she gave
serious thought to running for governor of her home state.
She now says she will not run. Those close to
Harris tonight reportedly saying this decision does now leave open
the potential for another presidential run in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's hilarious. Before we get to that breaking news, we
have got a tariff deal done with Mexico, our biggest
trading partner by bo. Haven't seen the details, but there
you go. As August first, the deadline is hitting tomorrow.
You know, the one still l Diablo is in the details. Jack.

(01:03):
Back to you, congratulations on your fourth grade level knowledge
of Spanish at best. Anyway, back to the dunderpate Kamala Harris. Yes,
So the first thing I thought when I heard she's

(01:25):
not running for governor of California, which is a little
surprising to me because I think she could win or
she'd have been certainly a formidable force.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh yeah, there's a brief discussion among the union goons
who they will annoint, who will be their most compliant prostitute.
In whoever answers that call, Gavin Will will be the
appointed Democratic governor.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, and she probably would have gotten that nod. Yeah,
And that's twenty six. Is the governor race for California,
twenty eighth to presidential race obviously, and there had been
talk that she's thinking about that. Now it seems completely clear.
This is from the New York Times today. She's expected
to form an organization shortly that would allow her to
raise funds and pay for travel and political political activities.
Once you do that, everything is paid for. So all

(02:10):
your flights, your hotels, your meals, your car, everything you
do is paid for by somebody else once you start
that progress podcast as her vodcast and the vodcast Yes,
as I said earlier, I will be campaigning in Maui
and Aspen and Manhattan, and in the winter time in Miami,

(02:32):
mostly Miami. I'll be campaigning in Miami. Representative Robert Garcia
of California said on Wednesday that he had spoken with
Ms Harris about traveling to competitive house districts, but beginning
this fall to assist Democratic candidates. She's going to be
all across the country for the twenty twenty six mid terms.
She wants to help us flip the House. Are there
Democrats out there that because there aren't very many competitive seats?

(02:57):
Do you know the Republicans and Democrats work together on
that to make sure there's only like a small number
of seats that are actually competitive. They battle on the
rest of them are solid. They draw the line so
that neither one of them could lose. But anyway, are
the Democrats out there in competitive seats that want Kamala
Harris on stage with them? Oh?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
No, If I were a Democratic candidate, I barricade myself
in my house and threatened suicide instead of letting her
on the stage with me.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Are you kidding? It's the last thing I want anyway, Harris,
who is white.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, you know, I was thinking, what would really help
me with my campaign is the stench of a loser?
Do you have any that I might hang around and
pick up their stench?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Particularly one that if she goes to speak, she rambles
on endlessly about nothing, h sucking all of the energy
out of my already on inspiring rallies.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
It is time for us to do what we have
been doing in that time as every day.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
And as we all know, that was not an outlier
that statement. She did that sort of thing all the
freaking time, which is the New York Times. Get to
that here. Miss Harris, who was widely criticized last year
for doing very few media interviews, is expected to begin
talking with podcast hosts and journalists beginning after Labor Day.
That's just a month away, according to a person she

(04:13):
has spoken with about her plans. So she thinks she
failed because she didn't do enough interviews, and now she's
going to do a bunch of interviews. You didn't do
interviews because you knew or your handlers knew that you
couldn't do them. You were terrible at them. Every time
you did them, they ended up being a meme or
a late night joke off. Try not to be a meme. Well, yes,

(04:37):
I said at the time. She didn't do Rogan because
she couldn't do Rogan.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
She doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
The chops right. Well, she has tried to do it
with all kinds of qualifications on it. What he could
ask and all you know the time of the interview
and all this, and he didn't agree to it because
she needs boundaries. Trump, as you can see, will go
out anywhere, talk for ninety minutes to anyone any time,
and answer any question he's got from any news source.

(05:04):
She's got a new book out called one hundred and
seven Days, which was the length of her campaign, and
I guess this is her talking about her book. Thirty
nine Michael, just over a.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Year ago, I launched my campaign for President of the
United States, one hundred and seven days, traveling the country,
fighting for our future, the shortest presidential campaign in modern history.
It was intense, high stakes, and deeply personal for me
and for so many of you. Since leaving office, I've

(05:39):
spent a lot of time reflecting on those days, talking
with my team, my family, my friends, and pulling my
thoughts together, in essence writing a journal that is this book,
One hundred and seven Days. With candor and reflection, I've
written a behind the scenes account of that journey. I

(06:00):
believe there's value in sharing what I saw, what I learned,
and what I know it will take to move forward.
In writing this book, one truth kept coming back to me.
Sometimes the fight takes a while, but I remain full
of hope and I remain clear eyed. I will never

(06:22):
stop fighting to make our country reflect the very best
of its ideals. Always on behalf of the people. So
thank you for being in this fight with me. I
am forever grateful and I cannot wait for you to
read this, and I'll see you out there.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Everybody writes a book if they're running for president because
it gives the interviewers a reason to have you on.
Kamala Harris has a new book out, and then they
don't talk about your book. They ask you about all
these things. You don't talk about your book. You talk
about the things you want to talk about to run
for reelection. I doubt she wrote the book. That's not
really a knock on her, though. Most of the people
don't write their own books, including John f freaking Kennedy

(07:03):
who won a Pultzery Prize. He didn't even write his book,
so not write down for interviews.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And then yeah, now, sometimes the fight takes a very
long time. And when you think about the passage of time,
you can't help but think about the passage of time.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
You know, I was just thinking how she uh. It
reminded about how about how how often she has nothing there?
So that like statement was there, I have a book.
But she didn't work in any anything about anything that
you could latch onto like Trump from the first moment. Okay,
he's hardcore anti immig illegal immigration, I mean that just

(07:40):
all the time. She she doesn't have one of those.
That's one of her problems. I mean, her thing is
just I'm for the American people. But you need a
you need a hook, like a specific topic, an issue,
I guess is what you call them.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
She doesn't have an issue she does have, and she
has an IQ of eighty four. Those two things I
think conspire against her.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
She maybe, as sid Rosenberg said on our show at
the convention, stupid might be the problem, but she still
has the same problem she had before. And I wonder
if she's figured that out. One of the reasons she
didn't do interviews is she doesn't have an answer for
you were four taxpayers paying for sex changes for illegal prisoners?

(08:26):
Are you still what changed? I mean, and there's a
bunch of those, and she never came up with an
answer for him, And I just wonder if she has now,
because she's still going to be asked that, right. I mean,
she still had those positions out there.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Her book One hundred and seven Days, a sequel to
her first book, which was about her first presidential run
after Iowa, which was entitled zero Again.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't make it
to Iowa again. I'll bet she doesn't run. She falls
short of even run. She's not going to get the
financial backing. She's going to realize there's no people with
money out there that want to toss her enough coins
to make it a legitimate run. That might guess, absolutely right.
I can't imagine unless she's the least self aware person

(09:18):
on earth. She might be that whatever effect do they
call that, where incompetent people don't know they're incompetent. She
might actually be one of those is that Dunning Kruker efect?
She might be one of those people that don't because
she's she is unbelievably unseelf aware. If she doesn't realize
her drawbacks as a candidate, just one of the worst candidate.
It's maybe the single worst candidate to be the candidate

(09:41):
for a major party ever, just certainly in your top tier. Yeah. Now,
they did a pull a new poll that just came
out today potential twenty twenty eight Democratic candidates. They listened
a whole bunch of names. Now undecided leads the field,
which tells you that it's wide flipping open, I mean,

(10:02):
and it should lead the field at this point of course. Yeah,
But usually there's a Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton, a somebody
that like is really solid at first place. They often
end up not being the nominee. But there's some name
out there. Undecided leads the field by quite a bit
for the Democrats. So it's I mean, there's not a

(10:23):
single name out there that is like really getting numbers.
This latest poll is a little different than polls I've
seen before, but the numbers are Solow Pete boot Edge
Edge leads the pack at sixteen percent.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
That's ridiculous, Oh sixteen percent, Okay, right, it's leading ridiculous
that anybody would say that.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
But leading the field is undecided at twenty three. So
you got Pete at sixteen, Kamala right behind him at thirteen,
which I'm sure is within the margin bearer, so it's
basically a tie. Gavin Newsom at twelve, so kind of
got a tie. A tie among that first tier, the
first tier being below undecided of Mayor, Pete Kamalin and
Gavin Then you drop down to AOC Josh Shapiro at seven.

(11:07):
Then everybody else is like insignificant numbers. Yeah, but it's
wid wide, wide, wide open, And if I had to bet,
I would bet it's not one of those names. It's
somebody you've never thought of ever in your life gonna
catch fire.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, Bill Clinton s character a moderate, well spoken governor
of some state.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
It's not a chance it's gonna be Kamala Harris. It
would be fantastic if she did end up with the nomination,
but I don't think there's a chance.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, I would have to get odds of like five
hundred to one just for the amusement of having that
bet out there, because it's squandering money, it's throwing it away.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Well other Democratic candidates realize how weak she is. Oh yeah, Yeah,
it's gonna be an enormous field, at least in the
early going. Yeah, it'll be one of those are gonna
have to have two bait nights, or either you're going
to have twenty five people on stage, or you're gonna
do a night with a dozen and another night with
thirteen or something. Great bonus mailbag coming up at a

(12:11):
moment or two. Hope you can hang on. Oh cool,
I guess Colbert is going to have Kamala on when
soon tonight? Oh tonight, Kamala on Colbert tonight. There's your
first opportunity for her to sol and tape man. We're
rolling table. Heav it for you tomorrow. Awesome, stay here, hey,
get it.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
The travel website Skytracks recently released it's ranking of the
world's cleanest airlines, and no US carriers were included in
the top twenty. Oh how come, asked a passenger flying
with her emotional support horse.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
They don't do that in other countries. Allow all your
pets on there. Plus people are probably shod.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
The most amazing AI claim I've come across yet, and
that's saying something. Next segment, all right, we.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Don't have much time for this, but let's squeeze in
a little bit of it. Some bonus mail bag. We
got this note from longtime listener Andy who says some
very very nice things about the show, and thanks very much, Andy.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
That means a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
And we played a professor talking about eugenics in reference
to the idiotic but hilarious Sydney Sweeney Jean's commercial fake controversy.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Funny she brought that up.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Andy writes, the big proponents of eugenics were the progressives
of the early twentieth century, something I've mentioned many times.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You know what, Hillary claims, she is the Democrat.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
And I'm not big on like nailing political parties for
what they were one hundred years ago or one hundred
and fifty years ago, because things evolved. But he points
out the Democratic Party is and has always been racist,
from wanting to breed minorities out of existence, to pushing
gun controls so the KKK could threaten, harass and lynch
people without opposition, to wanting them to work below minimum

(13:55):
wage so they can have cheap weed and clean hotel rooms.
They've always hated minority If you doubt it, here's Justice
Ginsburg in an interview with the New York Times, and
he sets it up. But and I went and I
found it. They're talking about abortion rulings Roe v. Wade
and then the Hyde Amendment ruling Harris versus mccraye in

(14:17):
nineteen eighty it upheld the High Amendment who said the
federal government cannot pay for abortions, and she explained why
that ruling surprised her. Frankly, I had thought at the
time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth,
and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to
have too many of whoa.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Ruth Bader Ginsburg said that out loud.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So that Roe is going to be then set up
for medicaid funding for abortion. She thought the momentum behind
it from the left was that there's a population increased,
particularly populations.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
We don't want to have too many. That's a completely
different argument than it's my body, my choice. No, your
argument is this is population control and as of a
certain kind of person.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, and then, interestingly, in a kind of a different topic,
but she's asked a different question. She said, well, the
basic thing is that the government has no business making
that choice for a woman. But then she extrapolates that
therefore the government ought to pay for it because some
women can't make that choice and afford it themselves.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Interesting stuff, but.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Anyway, Yeah, that's the nineteen Actually, this interview was in
two thousand and nine, and she's talking about the late sixties,
early seventies. So the eugenics thing apparently lived on. Let's
see yesterday during the Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast,
I made an offhand mention of songs referencing California and
the Big One or California plunging into the oath gne.

(15:47):
First email we get from somebody says, don't forget about
Steely Dan's My Old School, which was literally the first
song I mentioned in the discussion.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Second email, Eric Eric in Beautiful Astoria, Oregon says he
resets it. In addition to the two you mentioned Steely
Dan the Decembrists, I offer Warren Zevon's Desperadoes under the Eaves,
which I read only because Warren Zevon was a great
lyricist quote. And if California slides into the ocean, like

(16:21):
the mystics and statistics say it will, I predict this
motel will still be standing until I pay my bill.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Love Warren. And then, and this is the one I
really wanted to bring up, and we were gonna have
no time to discuss it.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Damn it. Mike helpfully sent along a list of songs
that reference California sliding the ocean.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Falling into the sea, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And you know, from Steely Dan and Tool and Tom
Petty and the Decembrists and the Queer's Good Good band
name and others.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
But he used chat gpt. Ah, that's unfair, that's not
and that's I see that all the time.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Somebody will say, who is that great third Basement hits
so many home runs for the Cubs back in the day,
and guys will be discussing it, and somebody will break
out their phone and google it or chat gpt at
ending the discussion. That's not the point. It's something to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Speaking of chat GPT and AI. One of the most
amazing claims I've ever heard, artrom and Getty, I terrify you.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Drug trend to sweeping our streets and most people have
never even heard of it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's called seven hydroxy, but someone calling it gas station heroin,
and you know you can buy it right on the
counter at gas stations at smoke shops, making this threat
more accessible, more dangerous, and more urgent than ever. We
started digging on this seven hydroxy.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
We talked to several people who have been adicted, and
they say they were hooked after just one pill.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Ooh, it is more addictive than morphine. It is something
that you can buy without a prescription, you can buy
with a ID, and they can sell it anywhere. Well,
I need to talk to my son about this and
what way do you buy it? At a gas station
or a comedience store? What Katie knew anything about this?

Speaker 6 (18:02):
Well, so the basis of this is it replaces the
feeling of an opioid.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So if you take percocets or you're on heroin, that's
what if I go to the do I go into
the if I was going to buy it at the
convenience store, is it labeled the hydroxy or is it
labeled to something else?

Speaker 6 (18:17):
It's labeled got it, Katie. There's a couple of different
brands of it. Seven H and seven hydroxy are brands.
It's a it's a cratum or a creatum, however you
pronounce it, claiming it's what like an energy booster or no,
it's an opiate replacement.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
So people that are like.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Addicted to fentanyl and heroin are trying to get off
it and taking this to replace.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
The feeling and they're getting hooked on it, and we're
selling that at convenience stores.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
It's it's hanging right behind the register. You point out
and say I want that, and ay, that's it, and it's.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
More according to this medical study, estimates rate range as
high as sixteen million users, more than two billion dollars
in retail sales.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
And you're addicted the first time you try it. That's horrifying.
How the hell is that still in stores? So you've
got that, and it should not be in stores. It
should absolutely not be in stores. It should be eliminated immediately.
And then it's interesting. I also ran into this story.
Stronger than fentanyl, a drug you've never heard of, is
killing hundreds every year. Fentanyl feel the worst drug crisis

(19:20):
the West has ever seen. Now and even more dangerous
drug is wreaking havoc faster than authorities can keep up.
The looming danger is emerging wave of highly potent synthetic
opioids called nitazines, which you've already killed hundreds of people
in Europe and left law enforcement scientists scrambling to detect
them in the drug supply and curb their spread from China.
Of course, and they have a little graphic here comparative doses.

(19:46):
Two hundred milligrams of morphine is equal to roughly one
hundred milligrams of heroin, and that's about the size of
a pencil eraser. That's the amount of heroin that it
takes equal two hundred milligrams of morphine.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Fentanyl is not one hundred milligrams, it's two milligrams and
is potentially fatable fatal. These protoonitazines are one milligram equals
two hundred milligrams of morphine, and these isotonoonitazines are four
tenths of one milligram packs the punch of a full

(20:23):
dose of heroin, meaning it's incredibly difficult to successfully mix
and cut other drugs with.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
How in the hell is that available at the gas station.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Well, this stuff is not This is different than the
kraton it's yet a number. Look, here's the story. My
generation could do hard drugs. It was a terrible idea,
as Ret Miller of the old ninety sevens once saying,
there's been ocean's alcohol, mountains of weed, a handful of pills,

(20:55):
but none of the hard stuff that has kills. And
that was back in the day.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Hard drugs are death.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Now powder drugs is there's sometimes not Powder drugs are death.
And we've just got to let everybody know the cocaine
of Studio fifty four.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Or or whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's that's a model tea. It's a different world now horrifying.
It is horrifying. And the fact that some of this
crap can be sold over the counter.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I karamba. So different topic AI one of my favorite
topics to talk about. My cyber truck Tesla, had an
update yesterday. And it's an interesting thing if you drive
a Tesla, because an update might all of a sudden,
the sphoedometer's over here and the temperature and time is
over here. Your cycle year iPhone gets a new operating system.
Everything changes. Some of it you like, some of it

(21:48):
you hate.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Anyway, does it sometimes like turn into a motorcycle or
no windows?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or the update from last night? So I looked at
it this morning and said, you now can talk to Groc.
So Groc is automatically installed, and the little microphone thing
on there where I normally might say, you know, play
Bob Dylan to my Spotify, I could say, hey, Groc,
who is the third baseman for the Cubs that hit
a lot of home runs or whatever? I'm going to

(22:13):
ask it, and it's in there. But I thought this
was kind of interesting. You can now talk to Groc
in your tesla, an intelligent assistant built in choose Groc's
voice and personality, ranging from storyteller to unhinged. What the
hell is unhinged? Wait a minute, that's an option. Yeah,
I'll have to check that out and let you know
what I think of it. The Dispatch, which we subscribe to,

(22:35):
is writing about AI today and came across a couple
of really interesting things. And April survey by the Pew
Research Center found that about two thirds of US adults
believe that AI will lead to fewer jobs over the
next two decades. Two thirds of adults their sense is
my sense is there are going to be fewer jobs. Well,
just five percent think it will lead to more jobs.

(22:57):
I don't know what people thought about technology the past,
because you know, people make that claim all the time.
That's what they said about the printing press or the
I don't know all the cotton jin or whatever, and
it actually led to more jobs. I don't think that's
going to be the case this time. But listen to
this dig this shizzle. So the idea is that AI
is going to come along and be so freaking productive

(23:19):
that our GDP will go way up, and we'll have
so much money in this country that we're just don't
let out checks to everybody to sit at home and
pursue your poetry career, play guitar or whatever it is,
and everybody will just be happy, won't they. That's a
hilariously stupid idea that people will be happy not working.
But to the economic activity AI optimists, and they talked

(23:41):
to a whole bunch of people in Silicon Valley, all
the best experts out there who are all guessing to
a certain extent and or profiting from the development of
AI good point say that AI is going to propel
the global economy into extreme levels of economic growth, believing
that GDP growth could explode to Yes, today we have
a three percent number three percent growth and we are

(24:04):
happy with that. You get five to seven to eight
percent growth. Insane, I mean, you know how great that
They think AI will lead to an unprecedented twenty to
thirty percent annual growth in the near future. Researchers at
epoch AI it's some global thing that studies the say

(24:25):
that if AAI is able to automate thirty percent of tasks,
GDP growth would be twenty percent their number is a
little lower than the thirty percent. There's a widely circulated
paper called AI twenty twenty seven that claims AI could
be super intelligent in the next few years and that
could lead to GDP growth in those numbers of thirty

(24:47):
percent or more.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I almost don't want to go down this road, although
I think it's a good one, and we need to
deal with eventually.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
In what way?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
By what means will all of that enormous economic activity
be funneled to me the jobless poet well suffocating levels
of taxation, and then the usual politics of who gets what. Well,
we'll have to money in class. The powerful class in
DC keeps their share.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I'm sure we'll have to completely restructure society, though. The
idea is that you're not even expected to work. Will
be what do they call that when you get a
check like they tried and stock the nherciates basic income,
guaranteed basic income. That will just become the norm for everybody.
You're born in this country and you're guaranteed basic income
kigs in of whatever amount. You're right about the rich

(25:39):
and powerful siphoning off their chunk, but not not everybody's
numbers are that high, but some people that are not
like AI honks necessarily. JP Morgan anticipates an eight to
nine percent boost to GDPA GDP over the next decade
because of AI. That would be enormous. I mean, you
don't need to throw around numbers like thirty percent. Eight

(25:59):
to night percent on top of whatever we're already doing,
would be world changing. Goldman Sachs is more bullish, estimating
a fifteen percent GDP increase over the next decade.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Wow, that would could crow us out of our suffocating
federal debt. True, unless the government keeps spending beyond its means,
which they will.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Sorry, I have no fun I have Yeah. They also
said that if you talk to Silicon Valley, there seems
to be a break between people that think the super
intelligent AI that's going to change the world is going
to happen in twenty twenty seven versus people who think
it's gonna happen in twenty thirty five. Those those are
the two big groups. Leaven thirty fives awful, dang close, Yeah,

(26:44):
no kidding. A couple more AI notes.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Very briefly, I kind of into the last segment, yelling
at Mike in Arkansas for answering the question about songs
that reference California falling into the sea by using chat GPT,
because I'm a fan of just the conversation and brainstorming
and trying to remember it.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's fun.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
On the other hand, Mike, it is amazing. I mean
it's it's he just I see his prompt and it
just came back with, you know, a dozen or so
songs and others that kind of imply California'll come into
this fall into the sea. It's it's amazing, Mike. Thanks
for sending that along. I'm not actually mad. I just
want to make the point.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
GPT probably eight times a day on average this point
in my life. Wow that much, Huh. I got a
couple of things I've been meaning to ask it. Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
And then this is from Noah Beautiful Loomis, California, longtime listener,
blah bah Bah. I thought i'd share my experience using
a chatbot out of boredom I felt a I fed
it a random scenario is mostly aimed around relationship conflicts,
just to see what it would do. After receiving multiple
affirmations for my side of the story. Remember, he made

(27:51):
up all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's what all therapists do, the firm your side, and.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
The chatbot telling me how right I am and how
my hypothetical pathetical partner doesn't under stand. I decided to
attempt to call it out by saying, quote, it seems
like you're only taking things from my point of view, etc.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
It then went down.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
A weird rabbit hole of giving me random statistics. One
of them said, quote, out of the four million people
that have used said bot, I was one of fifteen
hundred to ask that question.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I prompted it again, saying that's not possible.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
It then began giving me a made up statistic after
made up statistic, telling me how I's one of the
select few to point this out. The longer this went on,
the more the bot would insist I was special and
no one else was asking the questions I was asking, which,
of course, I know cannot be true. Absolutely horrifying for
younger generations, as their biases and self importance seems to

(28:42):
be getting constantly confirmed by these bots.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well like that one. I assume it's one of those
language learning models. Did it just pick up on the
fact that that's what most therapists do. They affirm your
side and say you're right, your mom is a monster
or your husband is a monster or whatever. It's never
you because you'd stop paying them.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Well, and then I read some tech guru talking about
the fact that they've realized that these language learning models,
these these you know, the massive hoovers of verbage and
information from the net, they're starting to hoover up each other's.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Bullets right right, could lead to the Internet being completely
full of crap, more full of crap, more full of
crap than it already. Yes, yes, hum, I don't think
human beings can handle this. There's also the AA problem
very briefly of and Google now does this to their

(29:40):
own detriment eventually, I think. But chat GPT or whatever,
So you ask, you know, what are the the top
ten movies of all time Oscar winners. There are sites
that used to have that stuff, that people compiled that
list for profit, lots of sites everything you can imagine.

(30:01):
And the idea is you would go to that site
to get the answer on whatever you're looking for, and
there'd be ads there and they would get clicks and
they would make money as soon. But now chad GBT
gives it to you or the AI thing at the
top of Google gives it to you without going to
the site. Well, then nobody's gonna create these sites anymore
because there's no clicks or money to be made. I mean,

(30:21):
that's gonna happen fast, isn't it, and not reproducing. So
Planet of the Beavers, I guess we'll finish strong.

Speaker 7 (30:30):
Next start of the year, we are gonna go back
to the Moon. We're not gonna land, We're gonna go
around the Moon. And then about a year later, we're
gonna land back on the moon. Under Donald Trump's tenure,
back on the moon six days, and then after that.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
We're gonna set up a base camp.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
We're gonna stand the moon, and what we learn on
the moon is what's gonna take us.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
To Mars, and we're gonna plan a flag. I guess
we're gonna land up there and make a little basin,
plan a flag. Start that under Trump's term. Yeah, I
want to hear that. Next clip? Can we play that, Michael, What.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Makes you think free I atlists could actually be an
alien space?

Speaker 7 (31:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Sorry, I meant the next Sean Duffy clip thirty five.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
The moon is a big place.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
There are very specific areas of the Moon that are
critical that who gets their first guests to plant their flag.
That's critically important. We want to get there with their
international partners. We know the Chinese want to get there
as well, and so speed is of the essence.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Okay, So the Chinese who are ramming Filipino naval vessels
and building islands which they swear they won't militarize, then
militarizing those islands in the South Pacific or the South CHINNESSEEA,
they're going to respect a flag planting.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Well, first of all, that is the most forceful statement
I've ever heard of. This is going to be just
like conquest was on Planet Earth. M I mean, that's
settler colonials. We're the only ones that could do it forever.

(32:07):
But yeah, obviously we're gonna see in our lifetime. Boy,
it's gonna be something to watch the very first battles
over space. The it's always been kind of seen as like, well,
you know, it's a different world space. It won't be,
But it's gonna be exactly like Planet Earth was. You
got a chunk of resources, it's ours, it's ours unless
I can take it then it's mine. Yes, yes, true.

(32:29):
Since the dawn of man and it's not gonna be
any different because it's pristine space. It's exactly the same.
So at some point China will get to something on
will decide we want that or half of that, or
you don't get to have all of it, or vice versa,
and then it's.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
All right, right, Moon Wars Star Wars, if you will.
I love Sean Duffy. I think he's doing all sorts
of great stuff. He's one of Trump's best appointees. But
I just don't get the whole planting the flag thing.
But are we going, oh, hey, chairman, she we can't
go there. They've planted their flag. What do you mean
you don't get it? I mean it's it's this. I

(33:06):
think it's clear what the statement is. We've planted our flag.
What are you going to do about it? Meaning and
militarized it. We planted our flag. It's ours.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
So if they say no, it's not, well then it
goes from there. So it's the initial step in. It's
the initial step, and we'll just we're just going to
extend the Monroe doctrine to the moon. It's our moon. Yeah, clearly,
American move got there first, our freaking moon.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah. I guess my point is if they planted their flag,
we'd say, yeah, we don't care.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
It's har moon. Yes, yes, yes, indeed, Jack Clark, GISs
time stop Jack and Joe.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
They've got to go and if they don't give can
they'll be back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Wow, that'll be exciting to watch. I could be. Well,
I'll save that for my last thought. Here's your host
for last last thoughts, Joe getting it's final thoughts.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
But let's get one of them from everybody on the
crew to wrap things up for the day. Why not
start with our technical director Michaelangelo? And Michael, do you
have an ultimate thoughts?

Speaker 6 (34:15):
No, just thinking that if we go back to the moon,
we got to send celebrities like Gel King and Katy
Perry again obviously duh.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Do you have a far from the beginning thought, Katie Green?
I actually do.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
My new plan is to print out a bunch of flags,
and when I want something, I'm going to stake my.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Flag in it and you claim it.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
There you go mine, I've planted my flag jacket toward
the end thought for us, Yes, that would be a
national humiliation if we put a flag up there and
then China goes up and knocks it down and puts.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Up their flag. That'd be rough. I don't think we'd
stand for it. No, or have our astronaut just kick
theirs over.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Give a big white gloved middle finger to China space
because it'll be high death these days, folks.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
No grainy Neil Armstrong for it now right? And then
he breaks the flag over his big padded knee, throws
whiter's ass with it. Huh, not too much, too far?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
A flag turns around, pretends we're brainstorming here.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
We don't want to escalate. Let's not escalate. Oh I
hope that does happen in my lifetime. Armstrong and Getty
wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
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Getty dot com for the hotlinks for the Katies corner.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
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Speaker 1 (35:43):
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Speaker 3 (35:46):
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Speaker 1 (35:50):
I do not how to interpret his actions. It seems
the astronaut is cleaning himself with the Chinese flag. See tomorrow,
God bless America. So many great moments.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
On today's Armstrong and Getty Show, but perhaps none as
great as this. I mean, researchers have found that these
macaque monkeys, you can't say that on the air.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think you can. I'm cringing it. I know I
love macaques, that I know. Bye Bye, Armstrong and Getty.
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