March 17, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- St. Patrick's Day traditions & things Americans don't do anymore
- Cities were cool!
- March madness & the government shutdown
- College basketball & a welcome to our new stations!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I miss when my kids were younger in Saint Patrick's
Day was a big deal and they'd wake up in
the morning and a leprechaun had snuck into our home
and your native green in the toilet and left a
trail of glitter.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Behind for some reason.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm not exactly sure what went on there, but they
loved it. It was really, really fun.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We had leprechaun traps, which is cruel, yes, and really brutal. Yes,
they'll always get away. They would always get away. They
would take the gold chocolate coins and get away, the
clever little bastards. We caught one once. He still works
for us. I work it the green. Did you read
about that? You an official who's just prosecuted for slavery? No, yeah,
(01:05):
later on in the show or in the hour. We
don't have time now, but yeah, but the green urine
was a real Armstrong innovation.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We did not do that at my house.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We heard it from some babysitter or whatever. But yeah,
he got that glitter like in footprints somehow, and disgusting
all the way around. But anyway, happy to see Patrick's day.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh I should keep moving, but me incontinence is bothering me.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Maybe I'll just stop and relieve myself. Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So this is one of the most fascinating things I've
read in the last several years. It is shockingly from
the Atlantic, which is just suffocatingly lefty these days. It
was written by a fellow by the name of Yannie
apple Bomb why Americans stopped moving houses and why that's
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a very big problem. Actually Yannie might be a woman.
I don't know, probably is. But the subtitle of it
is how Progressives Froze the American Dream, And I was
surprised to see that on the cover, but I dove in.
I'm gonna hit you with parts of it. Jack comment
like as much as you like, obviously. So the lead
is the idea that people should be able to choose
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their own communities instead of being stuck where they are born.
Is a distinctly American innovation. It is the foundation for
the country's prosperity and democracy, and it just may be
America's most profound contribution.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
To the world. I have been saying this for years.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You have in California, the Midwest, all kinds of places
I've lived, was settled by people who thought they could
get a better deal here. No society has ever been
as mobile as the United States once was. No society
has even come close. In the nineteenth century, friends, the
heyday of American mobility. Roughly a third of all Americans
changed addresses each year.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Wow a third each year.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
They quote a couple of commentators of the day, the
American is devoured with a passion for locomotions.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
At one French, he cannot stay in one place.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Americans moved far more often, over longer distances, and to
greater advantage than did people in the lands from which
they had come. They described how in Europe that you
just you stayed on the land, you stayed in the town.
People were very suspicious of outsiders.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But over the past fifty years, this engine of American
opportunity has stopped working. Americans become less likely to move
from one state to another, to move within a state,
or even to switch residences within a city. In the
nineteen sixties, now remember it was about one in three
in the eighteen hundreds. The nineteen sixties, about one out
of every five Americans moved in any given year, down
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from a one in three in the nineteenth century, but
a frenetic rate nonetheless, so one in five in the
nineteen sixties. In twenty twenty three, only one in thirteen
Americans moved. That's unbelievable, the sharp decline in geog You
go ahead, sorry. Joe and I both moved a lot
for our radio career, and I don't think it's shocking
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to say the success of this project.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Depended on it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Wouldn't it have never happened without the willingness to like
move to that town, than to that town, to then
that town for opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And probably it's a good time for a disclaimer. We
both were also raised by people who saw their fortune
in various ways and moved as necessary for career. My
dad was in the military for a while and then
in the publishing industry, and we moved to fair Mounta
until we finally settled in Chicagoland. But so we we
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can feel and appreciate that side of the argument, not
that it's an argument for see somebody who's lived, you know, hometown,
Mom and dad and the cousins are always around, you
have giant Sunday dinners together on that sort of thing. Yeah,
I get a tear in my eye thinking about how
wonderful that would be. But like I've said many times,
everything has a cast and a benefit. You just have
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to decide, you know what's for you anyway. Reading on
from Applebaum's piece, the sharp decline in geographic mobility is
the single most important social change in the past half century,
although other shifts have attracted far more attention. In that
same span, fewer Americans have started new businesses and fewer
Americans have switched jobs. From nineteen eighty five to twenty fourteen,
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the share of people who have become entrepreneurs fell by half.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wow, that is seriously troubling.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And then he gets into more Americans end up worse
off than their parents. I think part of that is
coming down from the high of the post WW two
American dominance that was just going to be hard to avoid.
But then he gets into how church membership is down
by a third since nineteen seventy, as is the share
Americans who socialized several times a week. Membership in any
kind of group is half down by half.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, you know, the earth rates keep falling.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
One interesting aspect of the not being tied to your
local church and not socializing, seems like that would make
you more mobile as opposed to less mobile. If you're
socializing and have a social network, that would be hard
to leave behind. If you don't socialize, what the hell
do you care? Go to the next down? They got
a better job.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
The other side of that coin is really interesting, and
we were going to get to that in a bit,
but I'll skip to it. And I can relate to
this because Judy and I relocated four years ago something
like that, and it makes you more likely to want
to go out and meet people. Oh interesting, put up
with the discomfort of going to a new church or
joining a club or you know, just for me, jumping
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on a tea time that had one opening and introducing
myself and meeting people because you want to make connections.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And indeed that's what they found sociologically. That's interesting. You know,
it's kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It made people more sociable the fact that we moved
all the time. And then there's an interesting political aspect
to this, and I don't want to get on a
partisan thing because that's not what this about.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This is about. I will just say that people who.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Felt anger and frustration at their financial situation tended to
vote more for Trump than Hillary, for instance, But the
number of those people who lived within a two hour
drive of where they grew up or had never even
left their hometown was way more huge.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's a huge gap.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The number of people who said I'm unhappy with my
financial life in my career, they were wildly disproportionately people
who had not relocated to seek their fortune.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, I don't want to make this partisan at all,
because I don't think it needs to be. But we
have been saying on this show for years, you know,
broadcasting out of California, people talking about how expensive it
is to live in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, then move some place cheaper. That's what I always did.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
If I couldn't afford to live somewhere, I moved some
place cheaper, rather than expect the government or somebody to
come in and make it cheaper so you can stay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Why why do.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Other taxpayers owe you the ability to stay in a
particular down That's.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Nuts, right, right, And just you know, you live your
life the way you see fit, and I will not
judge you unless you come.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
With heart at tax money and I'll tell you to
your jack.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, we were very, very successful our first job
together in Wichita, but we knew economically speaking, we had
topped out and needed to go, you know, seek our
fortune elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But a lot of people do that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Anyway, this I wanted to get to this part and
then there's more on the general topic.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
To come and trust me. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You've heard the expression moving day, right, I mean people
throw it around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's a term in golf. It's like the midway point
of a tournament. You got a chance to move off,
blah blah blah. And so I'm familiar with the term
in that way. How do we How did I not
know this? How did all of us not know this?
The great holiday of America, when it was so nomadic,
was called Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout
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the nineteenth century and well into the twentieth with a
giant game of musical houses. Moving Day, they write, was
a festival of new hopes and new beginnings, of shattered
dreams and shattered crockery, quite as recognized today as Christmas.
Or the fourth of July, wrote a Chicago newspaper in
eighteen eighty two.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I as much as I read history, have never come
across this.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It was primarily an urban thing, although many rural communities
and suburbans kind of had their own sort, and it varied.
It might be April first or October first, but May
first was by far the most popular. Literally everybody who
is renting a home, and the vast majority of people rented.
Home ownership was way way lower than it is right now.
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The vast majority of people would move on Moving Day
every year, or almost every year. Nothing quite so astonished
visitors from abroad as the spectacle of thousands upon thousands
of people picking up and swapping homes in a single day.
For months before moving day, Americans prepared for the occasion.
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Tenants gave notice to the landlords, a received word of
the new rent. Then followed a frenzied period of house hunting,
as people, generally women, scouted for a new place to
live that would in some respect improve upon the old quote.
They want more room, or they want as much room
for less rent, or they want a better location, or
they want some convenience not heretofore enjoyed. The Topeka Daily
Capital summarized, these were months of general anticipation. Cities and
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towns were alive with excitement. So if you've ever seen
one of those street scenes from back in the day
where everybody's got like their junk piled on wagons, that
was moving day.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And the point of putting that in the article, obviously
is to just point out that the cultural attitude about
moving was so much different. And as we've said, every
part of this country, people coming out west, starting in
the very very eastern part of the country, and the
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colonies and spreading. Do you know when when the wild
West was Ohio and Kentucky and then going further and
further for a better opportunity. And now, not to be
too disparaging of various industries and people, because I understand,
like Joe said, I fully understand why it'd be awesome
to stay in your hometown where you grow up and
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have your kids go to the same school and you
know all your family and friends. I god, I would
love that. But the idea that coal mining goes away
and you're gonna stay in the same dead town that's
never gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Come back is nuts.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, it's nuts in terms of the history of this country,
or you know, working for General Motors in whatever town
in Michigan or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If something's gone away, then you gotta move to a
different town where the new industry is. That's what everybody
has done forever in this country. And yeah, pointing out
that that's gone away, and now we're like Europe, where
you do plan to stay in the town your family
is from for generations, which again I understand the appeal.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
One charming anecdote from this which I can't find, but
I can paragraph a paraphrase. They mentioned that in Europe, indeed,
you stay in the same place, very insulur, and that
newcomers would simply cause a more subdivision of the goods
and services and land available there. So newcomers were like
a bad thing, whereas in America it was such a
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constant that the idea of a stranger went from a
threat to literally Americans would say, hello, stranger, you're not
from around here, are you? And it was not a
term of suspicion, it was a term of greeting. That's
really interesting, and I don't think good for the country.
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Speaker 3 (13:09):
It, hang around longer. Maybe it, you know, grows on
you like a fungus or something. It's a little different. Yeah,
we got this sex supposed to be. It's not purpose.
We got this text since it's Saint Patrick's Day. What
were your old on air names on Saint Patrick's Day?
We were patio furniture, and then what was the other one?
Patio furniture and Pat mcgroin. Pat mcgro was not in
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good taste at all, and I disapproved. Now you need
to jump out of the heros. No time for fun.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I have scholarly studies of American moving patterns to finish.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Ashually.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We'll never finish because like everything in the Atlantic, this
is forty thousand words long. But it's so interesting if
you're just tuning in and grabbed the previous segment via
podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But so, who's to
blame for the change in American life that we used
to move all the time and pursue our fortune, just
everybody did all the time, except for you, like your
old money Easterners. Well, interestingly, you can name I'm sorry,
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you can blame a woman named Jane Jacobs who was
a writer and thinker in the twentieth century, And in
nineteen sixty one she wrote a book called The Death
and Life of Great American Cities. And ironically, she and
her husband had bought a place in the West Village
in New York and changed a storefront and apartment into
a big house, and so she wrote this incredibly eloquent
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book that was a huge hit about how cool cities were,
how the a shop was right there on the corner
and they would be delivering laundry, and people would stop
on the street corners.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And they were just very alive.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And she didn't realize that the reason they were really
alive is that cities were constantly reinventing themselves to deal
with whatever the needs were of the humans at that time.
Like if you had huge quote unquote tenements, remember we
heard how terrible tenements are. Well, those that was cheap
housing for recent immigrants, and people would sink their roots
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in America, get their job skills up, get a better job,
and leave the tenements, and new immigrants would come into them.
But so she fell in love with a particular moment
of time in New York, and ignoring really her own premise,
she and her neighbors, who are college educated, really smart people,
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figured out, Hey, we can badger and lobby city hall
so that nothing can ever change these neighborhoods that we
think are so great just the way they are, And
nimbiism was born, and was then and is now mostly
progressive people with money saying nothing can change because I
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like it the way it is, And then the writer
of this piece gets into solutions for it. But it
has a great deal to do with falling out of
love with stability in cities and urban areas in particular,
and falling out of love with bureaucrats deciding how everything
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should look and coming up with master plans, because the
free market of people coming and going and moving and
buying and selling and renting it moves far, far too quickly,
especially these days.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
If you didn't hear those stats, Joe had last segment
about how much it has changed in a century or
less of people being willing to move to seek their fortune.
It's shocking. I mean, so that's got to have huge
ramifications to you know, if you're worried about inequality or
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inequity or whatever you want to call it, If you're
going to stay in some town where the industry died
and you're gonna stay there anyway, you ain't gonna do well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Right, Right, It's amazing to me people can't see that,
or they don't care, and or we've designed a system
where they can they just get on welfare or disability
is a right, huge aspect of this, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And if politicians would stop going to those towns and
saying we're gonna bring back the coal industry and that
sort of thing, that would help, right Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And Geddy, I would start pushing time running down densely.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
Got a chance, starta buyer, no check down the seven
seconds you'd see the time Wittenberg, the that was the
young time backson Co. Yeah, you're way back to that one, Hanson.
That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
When North Carolina State upset Houston way back in the
day Jesus forty years ago, anyway, March madness getting underway.
Brackets came out yesterday, and if you're if anybody's betting
in the office, I will be calling the FBI.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I do not put up with a legal gambling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So we didn't talk government shut down last week because
we like having listeners and we've had the experience of
they never amount to anything. Most of the time they
get settled before the deadline, and even if they don't,
whatever last a couple hours or a day or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Anyway, the Beltway is.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Like a big high school and the shutdown wrangling is
almost always like high school gossip gets settled one way
or another, and yeah, you're right, But the interesting is
no one's life significantly.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
The interesting one on this is that it really revealed
the problems the Democratic Party has.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The NBC poll that came out had Trump at the
highest approval rating he's ever had in the NBC poll,
while the Democratic Party has got the lowest approval rating
it has ever had in polling. And the split was
evident over the weekend because Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader
of the Democrats in the Senate, came out and said
(19:09):
we got to vote for this thing now the government
to be bad, which I think he's right about. But
I think I think he was on the cright side.
But the left wing of the party hated it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Here's a little other reporting from NBC on.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That divided Senate Democrats advance a Republican spending bill to
avoid a government shutdown, but spark an intra party battle
in the process.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Today was a bad day for the country, and I
won't sugarcoat it. Today was also a bad day for
the Democratic Party. In this case, CR stands for complete resignation.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I think there is a deep sense of outrage and betrayal.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's an unacceptable, unconsonable, and un American spending bill.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question?
So it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So Democrats are very, very unpopular, and you had their
annoying representatives there in Adam Schiff. I met representatives colloquially,
not like literally, because Adam Shiff is the senator.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Sure, he's a senator.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You got Adam Schiff and AOC really unhappy with the
fact that Democrats went along with it. You to talk
about not reading the room, right, no kidding, And but
the big one there at the end.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That was Joaquem Jefferies.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He's the leader Democratic leader in the House, and we'll
be Speaker of the House if the Democrats take it back.
Ask should there be new leadership in the center and
in the Senate? Should they get rid of Schumer? And
he said, next question, leadership criticizing each other in the same.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Party is not common. Is that the way you took that?
That's the way I took it. Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Take it right.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, I don't know. It could also mean that's a
stupid question.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Next question, Oh, interesting, And certainly the way they presented
it on mainstream media, which leans left, it was him
being unhappy. That's why they put it in there with
the other clips. This is what more reasonable. John Fetterman said,
what leverage do we have?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Democrats keep showing up at every night fight with a kesserole.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
So, but John Fetterman, along with Chuck Schumer, just closer
to mainstream Democrats who understand where their leverage is, or
where America is or whatever the idea of shutting down
the government. Chuck Schumer actually made the argument, we don't
have the clip. I guess, but Chuck Schumer got up
there and said, look, we're all we're gonna do is
(21:38):
empowered Doge. If we shut down the government and put
a whole bunch of government workers out of work, we're
kind of just like boostering Doge, which we claim were against,
which I think he's right politically.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Mm hmm yeah, Hey, Katie, help me with this. What
if you showed up to the knife fight with like
a scalding.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Hot cast arrived, I think, well, and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Like jammed it in somebody's face because they think you
are going to serve them food.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm picturing a knife fight, which is weird.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I would I rather have another knife so I get
in a fight with somebody they got a knife. Would
I rather have a knife myself or a hot cast
rolen't know.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Try to stab somebody with hot cast role all over
your face. It's probably hard.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, right, you got it in your eyes and everything
I see. I think Fetterman may be too hasty in
his criticisms. Anyway, back to you, Umm, let's hear another
One'll go ahead. I was just going to say it
is yet another example, and there's quite a list growing
up of any moderate Democrat who says, hey, folks, were
(22:38):
off track.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We got to come back over here.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Just getting a hell kicked out of them. But you
know the ever loud progressive wing.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Here's former R and C chairman Wright's prebus in his
reading of the current Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, the Democrats have had two horrific weeks. They've got
no leader, they've got no movement. The only thing I
have got is Trump the derangement syndrome. It's the only
thing that brings them together. And the only thing they
got out of this week was well, who's going to primary?
Chuck Schumer? What are we all about? AOC and Bernie
(23:13):
Sanders are the only people in their entire party that
can get a crowd of over twenty to show up.
So the only thing they are, I mean, they're afraid
of Trump. Trump owns them. And it was a total
slam dunk for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well until somebody emerges. That is the problem that if
I were a Democrat, I'd want somebody to emerge who's
closer to the center.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Absolutely, it's an interesting conundrum they're in, though, because his
previous puts it so charmingly. The only people who can
get more than twenty people to show up, or a
couple of socialist crackpots, one as old as the hills
and the other one quite attractive but doesn't have two
thoughts to ro up together. And so if you're on
the energized Vocal fundraising Instagram follower left of the left,
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you're thinking, wait a minute, you're telling me to defer
to these these people in the center.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They're nobody's they've got no energy.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, you know, Republicans are going to win until the
Democratic Party understands, finally, completely understands that Twitter is not
real life and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Not there yet.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And it's just it's absolutely amazing to me. I was
listening to the National Review podcast over the weekend and
they were making the point of.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How Trump sucks.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
So many of these you know, vocal get so much
attention activists into doing what he wants them to do.
So the Trump administration arresting that Columbia student, whether that's
legal or illegal, or right or wrong free speech wise,
you got your the AOC crowd trying to raise this
guy up like he's some sort of hero, and that
(24:46):
ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Work with more most of the country style.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, so you got most of the Country saying he
ain't no hero to me, sounds like he's Prohomas.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So once again the Democrats just taking the bait.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And one more thought a frequent correspondent, Paolo Rights and
if you have want to drop us an email, feel
free mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. It's
a number of examples of what I was talking about before,
how the left, part of the left is just kicking
the hell out of anybody who tries to be even
moderately moderate, and it's He quotes Michelle Goldberg, who's just
(25:17):
a wildly left columnist for the New York Times and obnoxious.
But it has the columns about Gavin Newsom saying, yeah,
dudes in women's sports is not cool, it's unfair, And
I agree with you, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
You all heard about that, I'm sure, on that podcast
a while back.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But then she says it was especially he'll advise for
Newsom to roll out as pivot on trans women in sports,
it's dudes. In a conversation with Kirk, a man once
described trans people as blah blah blah. As a matter
of both political expediency and simple honesty, Democrats should be
able to acknowledge that it's unfair to expect elite female
athletes to compete against trans women who've gone through male puberty. Okay, wow,
(25:55):
all right, I appreciate hearing that from Michelle Goldberg.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But here's where it gets interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But at the time when the Trump administration is single
trans people out for persecution, what now?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right? That's why Rose moved to Ireland.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Partially, Democrats need to couple the recognition of physical difference
with a broader defense of trans rights. And as Powell
points out, she's saying Trump is so horrible, we mustn't
agree with him even when he's right, and we should
continue letting men beat up on women, on the girls
(26:30):
on the sports field, lest we agree with Trump on
anything that is Trump derangement Sentrome. Right.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, I think Gavin Newsom recognizes that the John Fetterman
Bill Maher party could win elections. The AOC Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders party cannot.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right, in spite of their energy and fundraising ability and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, ad a, uh got to do a cherish I
guess it doesn't have to be father.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I was going to say father tradition, but I suppose
moms do it too.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Working on teaching my son to drive as he turned
fifteen a couple of weeks ago, and at fifteen and
a half. Go at fifteen and a half you can
start driving. So we were out driving around on County
Road yesterday, which I'm sure is highly illegal. But a story,
like all.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Stories told on the Armstrong e Getty Show, is entirely fictional.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I don't even have kids, but he was out driving around.
But I gotta I gotta come up with a reasonable
vehicle for him to drive. We don't.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't own anything that's like a regular car, so
it's not going to do any good to learn how
to drive like ridiculous Tesla's because Elon doesn't like various things.
There's no turn signal stick, for instance, so you don't
learn how to do that, and I don't know if
what happens to you just.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Turn the wheel in the signal.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
There's a button you press, which is very unhandy. I
much rather have the stick. Yeah, it's annoying. Don't mess
with stuff that works.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I know, I know, I.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Know Elon, but anyway, but he's really really excited about it.
And you know, as you do, as most people do,
I mean, I can still remember.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Drivers in and learning to drive myself. It's just I
don't know. I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The freedom or the fact that you're you know, in
control of a big, giant machine, or it makes you
feel like an adult.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But I mean, it's just intoxicating or what's for me?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, right, And I'm not the least bit surprised by
this because we're talking about your kid. But I think
it's notable that your kid likes girls, wants to date them,
and wants a driver's license, because that is.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Far from universal.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You know, in the modern day, nobody couples and kids
don't bother getting their license until years later.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
If I don't, I don't think I've done anything culturally
in my home.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't know. But he's had a couple of girlfriends
and he can't wait to drive.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So well, you're at least way for toward the free
range parents ideal than a lot of folks are these days.
But do you think those two things are very tied
very closely?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh, okay, you think those are tied together.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yes, it's a love of adventure, tolerance for risk, all
that sort of stuff. You've let him make mistakes and
you know, get lost and find his way, find himself back.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yes, Michael, I just remember scaring the hell out of
my dad the first couple of times I went by
the way.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, it depends what you're driving. I learned to drive
in my parents station wagging. I was trying to tell
my son this, that one when I was fourteen, which
is when you learned to drive. I was like four
foot eleven for one thing, and they didn't You didn't
have seats you could raise up back then. So I'm
sitting down low and I can see nothing but a giant,
giant hood. Had no idea where I was on the road,
(29:48):
just wow, hood and sky was all I could see.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I need a phone book for you to sit down. Oh,
how emasculating? Is that?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The phone book the booster seat of the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh, it's insane that I was driving at fourteen or
anyone was just insane.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well, it's insane. Well every parent knows this. It seems
insane your.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Sixteen year old is driving because they still seem like
little kids do It's like what and.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Or idiots not speaking about your kids.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Certainly, On the other hand, you've got the if I
have to drive you back and forth to school one
more time this week, I'm gonna go crazy for band
or sports or whatever the heck it is.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh, the astronauts are coming home.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Finally we got a little We got some news on that,
which is that's because of you on right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Uh well, yeah, he successfully got to rocket up and
soon back.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We hope we bombed the crap out of some people. Also,
we could give you the update on that, among other things.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Stay here, Army Strong.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
A twenty eight hour journey through space and a reunion
months in the Make It NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and
Sanita Williams and the rest of Crew nine hugged their relief.
It comes after a picture perfect launch Friday night from
the Candid Center in Florida, SpaceX Crew ten climbing through
the skies above a Falcon nine rocket, traveling it over
seventeen thousand miles per hour to the ISS. Among those
(31:09):
waiting for them Briche and Sunny, the two test pilots
for Boeing Starliner Or, whose mission aboard the ISS turned
from ten days to over nine months. But Sonny and
the rest of Crew nine one step closer to their
return to Earth.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
A ten day space mission that turned into nine months.
That's something, Well, I don't care if it's a golf
trip or a fishing trip or a European river cruise.
If I sign up for ten days and it turns
into nine months, I'm probably a little annoyed. Yeah, although
they've been quoted many times as saying, you know what,
We're sorry, our families have had to adjust, but this
is fun and interesting for us.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know, I believe them. Yeah, I'd be upsides and downsides.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
M Yeah, heck of a deal. Hope they get home,
though certainly I expect they will. So we were talking about,
you know, the left kicking anybody, any Democrat who comes
up is even reasonably moderate, And I found this on
I just came across this seconds after we and in
last segment. The feedback from Gaviy Newsom's podcast is disastrous.
(32:12):
His favorability amongst liberals has declined from forty six percent
to thirty percent. Republicans, on the other hand, having listened
to the podcast, overwhelmingly viewed him as insincere, calling him
fake and pandering, and his letter.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Favorite because he was fake and pandering that might have
led people to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Thank you for that analysis. I agree with it completely.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
His net favorability favorability rating dropped from plus four to
minus six, a ten point swing in the wrong direction. Wow,
almost instantaneously.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
First of all, uh, that's got to be an interesting
warning shot to anybuddy who wants to raise their head
up as a moderate Democrat out there, get it lopped
off by the woke side. Apparently, he also might have
the problem. He might be like a Hillary Clinton, where
the more people are exposed to him, the more they
(33:08):
don't like him.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Just yes for some reason, yes, well yes, not like yes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Right, And like a variety of Republican governors who I
liked very much through the years who decided to run
for president, it turned out, especially in a heavily Republican state,
you felt like they had the chops to run from
president for president. That's because they never really had to
show their chops. Gavin Newsom has risen up as a rich, powerful,
(33:38):
connected guy in a one party state.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And indeed, you know, as he indicated, the more you
hear from him, the less you like him. So keep talking.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Gavy isn't making a bracket anywhere Michael.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'll bet our boss does. I'll bet the boss Boss does. Yeah,
not that I'm aware of, but I would check there
the Big Boss. Yeah. I'm going to gamble heavily. I'm
gonna get involved. Fill up the bike. I know.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I didn't follow hardly at all this year college basketball,
which probably makes it more likely that I would win
than any other year when I watch lots of games.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, with players switching teams every single year, and lots
of freshmen playing, and lots of grad students who just
don't feel like they could make the NBA so they
just play well into their late twenties.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And plus just in general, the guy at the workplace
who wears a jersey to work every casual Friday is
usually the guy that doesn't win well.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And it's more true than ever.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
They're going to be wild upsets every single day this year.
So yeah, close your eyes and fill in your bracket.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So a lot of news stations that joined us today
five News station, Thanks, we appreciate it, Thanks for listening.
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Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Armstrong and Katty and He Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I miss when my kids were younger in Saint Patrick's
Day was a big deal and they'd wake up in
the morning and a leprechaun had snuck into our home
and your native green in the toilet and left a
trail of glitter.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Behind for some reason.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I'm not exactly sure what went on there, but they
loved it. It was really, really fun.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
We had leprechaun traps, which is cruel, yes, and really brutal. Yes,
they'll always get away. They would always get away. They
would take the gold chocolate coins and get away, the
clever little bastards. We caught one once. He still works
for us. I work it the green. Did you read
about that? You an official who's just prosecuted for slavery? No, yeah,
(01:05):
later on in the show or in the hour. We
don't have time now, but yeah, but the green urine
was a real Armstrong innovation.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
We did not do that at my house.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We heard it from some babysitter or whatever. But yeah,
he got that glitter like in footprints somehow, and disgusting
all the way around. But anyway, happy to see Patrick's day.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh I should keep moving, but me incontinence is bothering me.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Maybe I'll just stop and relieve myself. Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So this is one of the most fascinating things I've
read in the last several years. It is shockingly from
the Atlantic, which is just suffocatingly lefty these days. It
was written by a fellow by the name of Yannie
apple Bomb why Americans stopped moving houses and why that's
(01:54):
a very big problem. Actually Yannie might be a woman.
I don't know, probably is. But the subtitle of it
is how Progressives Froze the American Dream, And I was
surprised to see that on the cover, but I dove in.
I'm gonna hit you with parts of it. Jack comment
like as much as you like, obviously. So the lead
is the idea that people should be able to choose
(02:14):
their own communities instead of being stuck where they are born.
Is a distinctly American innovation. It is the foundation for
the country's prosperity and democracy, and it just may be
America's most profound contribution.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
To the world. I have been saying this for years.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You have in California, the Midwest, all kinds of places
I've lived, was settled by people who thought they could
get a better deal here. No society has ever been
as mobile as the United States once was. No society
has even come close. In the nineteenth century, friends, the
heyday of American mobility. Roughly a third of all Americans
changed addresses each year.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Wow a third each year.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
They quote a couple of commentators of the day, the
American is devoured with a passion for locomotions.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
At one French, he cannot stay in one place.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Americans moved far more often, over longer distances, and to
greater advantage than did people in the lands from which
they had come. They described how in Europe that you
just you stayed on the land, you stayed in the town.
People were very suspicious of outsiders.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
But over the past fifty years, this engine of American
opportunity has stopped working. Americans become less likely to move
from one state to another, to move within a state,
or even to switch residences within a city. In the
nineteen sixties, now remember it was about one in three
in the eighteen hundreds. The nineteen sixties, about one out
of every five Americans moved in any given year, down
(03:40):
from a one in three in the nineteenth century, but
a frenetic rate nonetheless, so one in five in the
nineteen sixties. In twenty twenty three, only one in thirteen
Americans moved. That's unbelievable, the sharp decline in geog You
go ahead, sorry. Joe and I both moved a lot
for our radio career, and I don't think it's shocking
(04:05):
to say the success of this project.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Depended on it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Wouldn't it have never happened without the willingness to like
move to that town, than to that town, to then
that town for opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And probably it's a good time for a disclaimer. We
both were also raised by people who saw their fortune
in various ways and moved as necessary for career. My
dad was in the military for a while and then
in the publishing industry, and we moved to fair Mounta
until we finally settled in Chicagoland. But so we we
(04:40):
can feel and appreciate that side of the argument, not
that it's an argument for see somebody who's lived, you know, hometown,
Mom and dad and the cousins are always around, you
have giant Sunday dinners together on that sort of thing. Yeah,
I get a tear in my eye thinking about how
wonderful that would be. But like I've said many times,
everything has a cast and a benefit. You just have
(05:01):
to decide, you know what's for you anyway. Reading on
from Applebaum's piece, the sharp decline in geographic mobility is
the single most important social change in the past half century,
although other shifts have attracted far more attention. In that
same span, fewer Americans have started new businesses and fewer
Americans have switched jobs. From nineteen eighty five to twenty fourteen,
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the share of people who have become entrepreneurs fell by half.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Wow, that is seriously troubling.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
And then he gets into more Americans end up worse
off than their parents. I think part of that is
coming down from the high of the post WW two
American dominance that was just going to be hard to avoid.
But then he gets into how church membership is down
by a third since nineteen seventy, as is the share
Americans who socialized several times a week. Membership in any
kind of group is half down by half.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, you know, the earth rates keep falling.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
One interesting aspect of the not being tied to your
local church and not socializing, seems like that would make
you more mobile as opposed to less mobile. If you're
socializing and have a social network, that would be hard
to leave behind. If you don't socialize, what the hell
do you care? Go to the next down? They got
a better job.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
The other side of that coin is really interesting, and
we were going to get to that in a bit,
but I'll skip to it. And I can relate to
this because Judy and I relocated four years ago something
like that, and it makes you more likely to want
to go out and meet people. Oh interesting, put up
with the discomfort of going to a new church or
joining a club or you know, just for me, jumping
(06:33):
on a tea time that had one opening and introducing
myself and meeting people because you want to make connections.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
And indeed that's what they found sociologically. That's interesting. You know,
it's kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
It made people more sociable the fact that we moved
all the time. And then there's an interesting political aspect
to this, and I don't want to get on a
partisan thing because that's not what this about.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This is about. I will just say that people who.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Felt anger and frustration at their financial situation tended to
vote more for Trump than Hillary, for instance, But the
number of those people who lived within a two hour
drive of where they grew up or had never even
left their hometown was way more huge.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's a huge gap.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
The number of people who said I'm unhappy with my
financial life in my career, they were wildly disproportionately people
who had not relocated to seek their fortune.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No, I don't want to make this partisan at all,
because I don't think it needs to be. But we
have been saying on this show for years, you know,
broadcasting out of California, people talking about how expensive it
is to live in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, then move some place cheaper. That's what I always did.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
If I couldn't afford to live somewhere, I moved some
place cheaper, rather than expect the government or somebody to
come in and make it cheaper so you can stay.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Why why do.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Other taxpayers owe you the ability to stay in a
particular down That's.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Nuts, right, right, And just you know, you live your
life the way you see fit, and I will not
judge you unless you come.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
With heart at tax money and I'll tell you to
your jack.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I mean, we were very, very successful our first job
together in Wichita, but we knew economically speaking, we had
topped out and needed to go, you know, seek our
fortune elsewhere.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
But a lot of people do that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Anyway, this I wanted to get to this part and
then there's more on the general topic.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
To come and trust me. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You've heard the expression moving day, right, I mean people
throw it around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
It's a term in golf. It's like the midway point
of a tournament. You got a chance to move off,
blah blah blah. And so I'm familiar with the term
in that way. How do we How did I not
know this? How did all of us not know this?
The great holiday of America, when it was so nomadic,
was called Moving Day, observed by renters and landlords throughout
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the nineteenth century and well into the twentieth with a
giant game of musical houses. Moving Day, they write, was
a festival of new hopes and new beginnings, of shattered
dreams and shattered crockery, quite as recognized today as Christmas.
Or the fourth of July, wrote a Chicago newspaper in
eighteen eighty two.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I as much as I read history, have never come
across this.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I know it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
It was primarily an urban thing, although many rural communities
and suburbans kind of had their own sort, and it varied.
It might be April first or October first, but May
first was by far the most popular. Literally everybody who
is renting a home, and the vast majority of people rented.
Home ownership was way way lower than it is right now.
(09:41):
The vast majority of people would move on Moving Day
every year, or almost every year. Nothing quite so astonished
visitors from abroad as the spectacle of thousands upon thousands
of people picking up and swapping homes in a single day.
For months before moving day, Americans prepared for the occasion.
(10:02):
Tenants gave notice to the landlords, a received word of
the new rent. Then followed a frenzied period of house hunting,
as people, generally women, scouted for a new place to
live that would in some respect improve upon the old quote.
They want more room, or they want as much room
for less rent, or they want a better location, or
they want some convenience not heretofore enjoyed. The Topeka Daily
Capital summarized, these were months of general anticipation. Cities and
(10:26):
towns were alive with excitement. So if you've ever seen
one of those street scenes from back in the day
where everybody's got like their junk piled on wagons, that
was moving day.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And the point of putting that in the article, obviously
is to just point out that the cultural attitude about
moving was so much different. And as we've said, every
part of this country, people coming out west, starting in
the very very eastern part of the country, and the
(10:59):
colonies and spreading. Do you know when when the wild
West was Ohio and Kentucky and then going further and
further for a better opportunity. And now, not to be
too disparaging of various industries and people, because I understand,
like Joe said, I fully understand why it'd be awesome
to stay in your hometown where you grow up and
(11:21):
have your kids go to the same school and you
know all your family and friends. I god, I would
love that. But the idea that coal mining goes away
and you're gonna stay in the same dead town that's
never gonna.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Come back is nuts.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah, it's nuts in terms of the history of this country,
or you know, working for General Motors in whatever town
in Michigan or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
If something's gone away, then you gotta move to a
different town where the new industry is. That's what everybody
has done forever in this country. And yeah, pointing out
that that's gone away, and now we're like Europe, where
you do plan to stay in the town your family
is from for generations, which again I understand the appeal.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Sure. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
One charming anecdote from this which I can't find, but
I can paragraph a paraphrase. They mentioned that in Europe, indeed,
you stay in the same place, very insulur, and that
newcomers would simply cause a more subdivision of the goods
and services and land available there. So newcomers were like
a bad thing, whereas in America it was such a
(12:30):
constant that the idea of a stranger went from a
threat to literally Americans would say, hello, stranger, you're not
from around here, are you? And it was not a
term of suspicion, it was a term of greeting. That's
really interesting, and I don't think good for the country.
You have any comment on that, text line four one, five,
(12:50):
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Speaker 3 (13:09):
It, hang around longer. Maybe it, you know, grows on
you like a fungus or something. It's a little different. Yeah,
we got this sex supposed to be. It's not purpose.
We got this text since it's Saint Patrick's Day. What
were your old on air names on Saint Patrick's Day?
We were patio furniture, and then what was the other one?
Patio furniture and Pat mcgroin. Pat mcgro was not in
(13:31):
good taste at all, and I disapproved. Now you need
to jump out of the heros. No time for fun.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I have scholarly studies of American moving patterns to finish.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Ashually.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
We'll never finish because like everything in the Atlantic, this
is forty thousand words long. But it's so interesting if
you're just tuning in and grabbed the previous segment via
podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. But so, who's to
blame for the change in American life that we used
to move all the time and pursue our fortune, just
everybody did all the time, except for you, like your
old money Easterners. Well, interestingly, you can name I'm sorry,
(14:03):
you can blame a woman named Jane Jacobs who was
a writer and thinker in the twentieth century, And in
nineteen sixty one she wrote a book called The Death
and Life of Great American Cities. And ironically, she and
her husband had bought a place in the West Village
in New York and changed a storefront and apartment into
a big house, and so she wrote this incredibly eloquent
(14:25):
book that was a huge hit about how cool cities were,
how the a shop was right there on the corner
and they would be delivering laundry, and people would stop
on the street corners.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And they were just very alive.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And she didn't realize that the reason they were really
alive is that cities were constantly reinventing themselves to deal
with whatever the needs were of the humans at that time.
Like if you had huge quote unquote tenements, remember we
heard how terrible tenements are. Well, those that was cheap
housing for recent immigrants, and people would sink their roots
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in America, get their job skills up, get a better job,
and leave the tenements, and new immigrants would come into them.
But so she fell in love with a particular moment
of time in New York, and ignoring really her own premise,
she and her neighbors, who are college educated, really smart people,
(15:24):
figured out, Hey, we can badger and lobby city hall
so that nothing can ever change these neighborhoods that we
think are so great just the way they are, And
nimbiism was born, and was then and is now mostly
progressive people with money saying nothing can change because I
(15:47):
like it the way it is, And then the writer
of this piece gets into solutions for it. But it
has a great deal to do with falling out of
love with stability in cities and urban areas in particular,
and falling out of love with bureaucrats deciding how everything
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should look and coming up with master plans, because the
free market of people coming and going and moving and
buying and selling and renting it moves far, far too quickly,
especially these days.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
If you didn't hear those stats, Joe had last segment
about how much it has changed in a century or
less of people being willing to move to seek their fortune.
It's shocking. I mean, so that's got to have huge
ramifications to you know, if you're worried about inequality or
(16:41):
inequity or whatever you want to call it, If you're
going to stay in some town where the industry died
and you're gonna stay there anyway, you ain't gonna do well.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Right, Right, It's amazing to me people can't see that,
or they don't care, and or we've designed a system
where they can they just get on welfare or disability
is a right, huge aspect of this, right.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And if politicians would stop going to those towns and
saying we're gonna bring back the coal industry and that
sort of thing, that would help, right Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
And Geddy, I would start pushing time running down densely.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Hot the war missed it, rebound, startamire, Arizona's.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Got a chance, starta buyer, no check down the seven
seconds you'd see the time Wittenberg, the that was the
young time backson Co. Yeah, you're way back to that one, Hanson.
That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
When North Carolina State upset Houston way back in the
day Jesus forty years ago, anyway, March madness getting underway.
Brackets came out yesterday, and if you're if anybody's betting
in the office, I will be calling the FBI.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
And I do not put up with a legal gambling.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
So we didn't talk government shut down last week because
we like having listeners and we've had the experience of
they never amount to anything. Most of the time they
get settled before the deadline, and even if they don't,
whatever last a couple hours or a day or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Anyway, the Beltway is.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Like a big high school and the shutdown wrangling is
almost always like high school gossip gets settled one way
or another, and yeah, you're right, But the interesting is
no one's life significantly.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
The interesting one on this is that it really revealed
the problems the Democratic Party has.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The NBC poll that came out had Trump at the
highest approval rating he's ever had in the NBC poll,
while the Democratic Party has got the lowest approval rating
it has ever had in polling. And the split was
evident over the weekend because Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader
of the Democrats in the Senate, came out and said
(19:09):
we got to vote for this thing now the government
to be bad, which I think he's right about. But
I think I think he was on the cright side.
But the left wing of the party hated it. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Here's a little other reporting from NBC on.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
That divided Senate Democrats advance a Republican spending bill to
avoid a government shutdown, but spark an intra party battle
in the process.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Today was a bad day for the country, and I
won't sugarcoat it. Today was also a bad day for
the Democratic Party. In this case, CR stands for complete resignation.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
I think there is a deep sense of outrage and betrayal.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
It's an unacceptable, unconsonable, and un American spending bill.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Is it time for new leadership in the Senate? Next question?
So it's interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
So Democrats are very, very unpopular, and you had their
annoying representatives there in Adam Schiff. I met representatives colloquially,
not like literally, because Adam Shiff is the senator.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Sure, he's a senator.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
You got Adam Schiff and AOC really unhappy with the
fact that Democrats went along with it. You to talk
about not reading the room, right, no kidding, And but
the big one there at the end.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That was Joaquem Jefferies.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He's the leader Democratic leader in the House, and we'll
be Speaker of the House if the Democrats take it back.
Ask should there be new leadership in the center and
in the Senate? Should they get rid of Schumer? And
he said, next question, leadership criticizing each other in the same.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Party is not common. Is that the way you took that?
That's the way I took it. Yeah, you didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Take it right.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, I don't know. It could also mean that's a
stupid question.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Next question, Oh, interesting, And certainly the way they presented
it on mainstream media, which leans left, it was him
being unhappy. That's why they put it in there with
the other clips. This is what more reasonable. John Fetterman said,
what leverage do we have?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Democrats keep showing up at every night fight with a kesserole.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
So, but John Fetterman, along with Chuck Schumer, just closer
to mainstream Democrats who understand where their leverage is, or
where America is or whatever the idea of shutting down
the government. Chuck Schumer actually made the argument, we don't
have the clip. I guess, but Chuck Schumer got up
there and said, look, we're all we're gonna do is
(21:38):
empowered Doge. If we shut down the government and put
a whole bunch of government workers out of work, we're
kind of just like boostering Doge, which we claim were against,
which I think he's right politically.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Mm hmm yeah, Hey, Katie, help me with this. What
if you showed up to the knife fight with like
a scalding.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Hot cast arrived, I think, well, and.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Like jammed it in somebody's face because they think you
are going to serve them food.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I'm picturing a knife fight, which is weird.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
I would I rather have another knife so I get
in a fight with somebody they got a knife. Would
I rather have a knife myself or a hot cast
rolen't know.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Try to stab somebody with hot cast role all over
your face. It's probably hard.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, right, you got it in your eyes and everything
I see. I think Fetterman may be too hasty in
his criticisms. Anyway, back to you, Umm, let's hear another
One'll go ahead. I was just going to say it
is yet another example, and there's quite a list growing
up of any moderate Democrat who says, hey, folks, were
(22:38):
off track.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We got to come back over here.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Just getting a hell kicked out of them. But you
know the ever loud progressive wing.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Here's former R and C chairman Wright's prebus in his
reading of the current Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Well, the Democrats have had two horrific weeks. They've got
no leader, they've got no movement. The only thing I
have got is Trump the derangement syndrome. It's the only
thing that brings them together. And the only thing they
got out of this week was well, who's going to primary?
Chuck Schumer? What are we all about? AOC and Bernie
(23:13):
Sanders are the only people in their entire party that
can get a crowd of over twenty to show up.
So the only thing they are, I mean, they're afraid
of Trump. Trump owns them. And it was a total
slam dunk for the Republican Party.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Well until somebody emerges. That is the problem that if
I were a Democrat, I'd want somebody to emerge who's
closer to the center.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Absolutely, it's an interesting conundrum they're in, though, because his
previous puts it so charmingly. The only people who can
get more than twenty people to show up, or a
couple of socialist crackpots, one as old as the hills
and the other one quite attractive but doesn't have two
thoughts to ro up together. And so if you're on
the energized Vocal fundraising Instagram follower left of the left,
(24:00):
you're thinking, wait a minute, you're telling me to defer
to these these people in the center.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
They're nobody's they've got no energy.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, you know, Republicans are going to win until the
Democratic Party understands, finally, completely understands that Twitter is not
real life and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Not there yet.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And it's just it's absolutely amazing to me. I was
listening to the National Review podcast over the weekend and
they were making the point of.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
How Trump sucks.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
So many of these you know, vocal get so much
attention activists into doing what he wants them to do.
So the Trump administration arresting that Columbia student, whether that's
legal or illegal, or right or wrong free speech wise,
you got your the AOC crowd trying to raise this
guy up like he's some sort of hero, and that
(24:46):
ain't gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Work with more most of the country style.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, so you got most of the Country saying he
ain't no hero to me, sounds like he's Prohomas.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
So once again the Democrats just taking the bait.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
And one more thought a frequent correspondent, Paolo Rights and
if you have want to drop us an email, feel
free mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. It's
a number of examples of what I was talking about before,
how the left, part of the left is just kicking
the hell out of anybody who tries to be even
moderately moderate, and it's He quotes Michelle Goldberg, who's just
(25:17):
a wildly left columnist for the New York Times and obnoxious.
But it has the columns about Gavin Newsom saying, yeah,
dudes in women's sports is not cool, it's unfair, And
I agree with you, Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
You all heard about that, I'm sure, on that podcast
a while back.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
But then she says it was especially he'll advise for
Newsom to roll out as pivot on trans women in sports,
it's dudes. In a conversation with Kirk, a man once
described trans people as blah blah blah. As a matter
of both political expediency and simple honesty, Democrats should be
able to acknowledge that it's unfair to expect elite female
athletes to compete against trans women who've gone through male puberty. Okay, wow,
(25:55):
all right, I appreciate hearing that from Michelle Goldberg.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But here's where it gets interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But at the time when the Trump administration is single
trans people out for persecution, what now?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right? That's why Rose moved to Ireland.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Partially, Democrats need to couple the recognition of physical difference
with a broader defense of trans rights. And as Powell
points out, she's saying Trump is so horrible, we mustn't
agree with him even when he's right, and we should
continue letting men beat up on women, on the girls
(26:30):
on the sports field, lest we agree with Trump on
anything that is Trump derangement Sentrome. Right.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, I think Gavin Newsom recognizes that the John Fetterman
Bill Maher party could win elections. The AOC Elizabeth Warren
Bernie Sanders party cannot.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right, in spite of their energy and fundraising ability and
the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yeah, ad a, uh got to do a cherish I
guess it doesn't have to be father.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I was going to say father tradition, but I suppose
moms do it too.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Working on teaching my son to drive as he turned
fifteen a couple of weeks ago, and at fifteen and
a half. Go at fifteen and a half you can
start driving. So we were out driving around on County
Road yesterday, which I'm sure is highly illegal. But a story,
like all.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Stories told on the Armstrong e Getty Show, is entirely fictional.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I don't even have kids, but he was out driving around.
But I gotta I gotta come up with a reasonable
vehicle for him to drive. We don't.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
I don't own anything that's like a regular car, so
it's not going to do any good to learn how
to drive like ridiculous Tesla's because Elon doesn't like various things.
There's no turn signal stick, for instance, so you don't
learn how to do that, and I don't know if
what happens to you just.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Turn the wheel in the signal.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
There's a button you press, which is very unhandy. I
much rather have the stick. Yeah, it's annoying. Don't mess
with stuff that works.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I know, I know, I.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Know Elon, but anyway, but he's really really excited about it.
And you know, as you do, as most people do,
I mean, I can still remember.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Drivers in and learning to drive myself. It's just I
don't know. I don't know if it's.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
The freedom or the fact that you're you know, in
control of a big, giant machine, or it makes you
feel like an adult.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
But I mean, it's just intoxicating or what's for me?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well, right, And I'm not the least bit surprised by
this because we're talking about your kid. But I think
it's notable that your kid likes girls, wants to date them,
and wants a driver's license, because that is.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Far from universal.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You know, in the modern day, nobody couples and kids
don't bother getting their license until years later.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
If I don't, I don't think I've done anything culturally
in my home.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I don't know. But he's had a couple of girlfriends
and he can't wait to drive.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
So well, you're at least way for toward the free
range parents ideal than a lot of folks are these days.
But do you think those two things are very tied
very closely?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Oh, okay, you think those are tied together.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yes, it's a love of adventure, tolerance for risk, all
that sort of stuff. You've let him make mistakes and
you know, get lost and find his way, find himself back.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yes, Michael, I just remember scaring the hell out of
my dad the first couple of times I went by
the way.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, it depends what you're driving. I learned to drive
in my parents station wagging. I was trying to tell
my son this, that one when I was fourteen, which
is when you learned to drive. I was like four
foot eleven for one thing, and they didn't You didn't
have seats you could raise up back then. So I'm
sitting down low and I can see nothing but a giant,
giant hood. Had no idea where I was on the road,
(29:48):
just wow, hood and sky was all I could see.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I need a phone book for you to sit down. Oh,
how emasculating? Is that?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
The phone book the booster seat of the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Uh, it's insane that I was driving at fourteen or
anyone was just insane.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well, it's insane. Well every parent knows this. It seems
insane your.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Sixteen year old is driving because they still seem like
little kids do It's like what and.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Or idiots not speaking about your kids.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Certainly, On the other hand, you've got the if I
have to drive you back and forth to school one
more time this week, I'm gonna go crazy for band
or sports or whatever the heck it is.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Oh, the astronauts are coming home.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Finally we got a little We got some news on that,
which is that's because of you on right.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Uh well, yeah, he successfully got to rocket up and
soon back.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
We hope we bombed the crap out of some people. Also,
we could give you the update on that, among other things.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Stay here, Army Strong.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
A twenty eight hour journey through space and a reunion
months in the Make It NASA astronauts Butch Wilmore and
Sanita Williams and the rest of Crew nine hugged their relief.
It comes after a picture perfect launch Friday night from
the Candid Center in Florida, SpaceX Crew ten climbing through
the skies above a Falcon nine rocket, traveling it over
seventeen thousand miles per hour to the ISS. Among those
(31:09):
waiting for them Briche and Sunny, the two test pilots
for Boeing Starliner Or, whose mission aboard the ISS turned
from ten days to over nine months. But Sonny and
the rest of Crew nine one step closer to their
return to Earth.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
A ten day space mission that turned into nine months.
That's something, Well, I don't care if it's a golf
trip or a fishing trip or a European river cruise.
If I sign up for ten days and it turns
into nine months, I'm probably a little annoyed. Yeah, although
they've been quoted many times as saying, you know what,
We're sorry, our families have had to adjust, but this
is fun and interesting for us.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
You know, I believe them. Yeah, I'd be upsides and downsides.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
M Yeah, heck of a deal. Hope they get home,
though certainly I expect they will. So we were talking about,
you know, the left kicking anybody, any Democrat who comes
up is even reasonably moderate, And I found this on
I just came across this seconds after we and in
last segment. The feedback from Gaviy Newsom's podcast is disastrous.
(32:12):
His favorability amongst liberals has declined from forty six percent
to thirty percent. Republicans, on the other hand, having listened
to the podcast, overwhelmingly viewed him as insincere, calling him
fake and pandering, and his letter.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Favorite because he was fake and pandering that might have
led people to that conclusion.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Thank you for that analysis. I agree with it completely.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
His net favorability favorability rating dropped from plus four to
minus six, a ten point swing in the wrong direction. Wow,
almost instantaneously.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
First of all, uh, that's got to be an interesting
warning shot to anybuddy who wants to raise their head
up as a moderate Democrat out there, get it lopped
off by the woke side. Apparently, he also might have
the problem. He might be like a Hillary Clinton, where
the more people are exposed to him, the more they
(33:08):
don't like him.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Just yes for some reason, yes, well yes, not like yes.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Right, And like a variety of Republican governors who I
liked very much through the years who decided to run
for president, it turned out, especially in a heavily Republican state,
you felt like they had the chops to run from
president for president. That's because they never really had to
show their chops. Gavin Newsom has risen up as a rich, powerful,
(33:38):
connected guy in a one party state.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And indeed, you know, as he indicated, the more you
hear from him, the less you like him. So keep talking.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Gavy isn't making a bracket anywhere Michael.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'll bet our boss does. I'll bet the boss Boss does. Yeah,
not that I'm aware of, but I would check there
the Big Boss. Yeah. I'm going to gamble heavily. I'm
gonna get involved. Fill up the bike. I know.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I didn't follow hardly at all this year college basketball,
which probably makes it more likely that I would win
than any other year when I watch lots of games.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, with players switching teams every single year, and lots
of freshmen playing, and lots of grad students who just
don't feel like they could make the NBA so they
just play well into their late twenties.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
And plus just in general, the guy at the workplace
who wears a jersey to work every casual Friday is
usually the guy that doesn't win well.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
And it's more true than ever.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
They're going to be wild upsets every single day this year.
So yeah, close your eyes and fill in your bracket.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
So a lot of news stations that joined us today
five News station, Thanks, we appreciate it, Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Hope you like it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Truly do I think you will try to bring you
the news of the day, what's going on, what's important
with us?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
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wing spin, and we try to bring you the truth
the best we can. Sometimes we call fowls on our
own side too. You might have to get used to that,
but that's the way we roll. Man a lot of
time and temperature checks.
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