October 7, 2024 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- The anniversary of Oct 7th and the wider war
- Asking Joe about Beethoven
- Trump returns to Butler, PA
- Tim Walz is a knucklehead...
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong
and Jettietie and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The FBI and Department of Homeland Security has issued a
warning saying October seventh, quote maybe a motivating factor for
violent extrements and hate crime perpetrators who are trying to
threaten public safety. The agency advising potential targets include synagogue, moss,
Islamic and community centers, and large gatherings. Authorities are concerned
over the possibility of lone wolf attacks, but authorities at
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this time say there's no credible threat but remain on
high alerts.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And it's a one year anniversary of the massacre in
Israel by Hamas, and they always do this around anniversaries.
I don't know if I remember a single example of
an anniversary leading to something, but it's not roy terrorists
generally work actually, But anyway, that's a separate story. Let's
hear one more report.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
On this before we start commenting.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is already now a much wider war. What started
in and around Gaza on October the seventh, that singular
terrifying attack inside Israel is now morphed into a conflict
that has drawn in Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yeminence.
We've now had fourteen straight days of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Day and night bombing.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think a lot now depends on how Israel response
to that Uranian missile stripe does. Nettanna, who now decide
to settle all scores for all the enemies he has
around him. Iran is enemy number one certainly for Netanya?
Who or can the US persuade Natannaho to try and
calibrate his response to reduce the risk of even further escalation.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
By the way, Trump over the weekend, in an interview,
said Israel absolutely should take out those nuclear facilities, Joe
Biden having said specifically no, Israel should not.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you escalate?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right, have that on the list. Which that's a pretty
big difference right there. I mean, if you're looking for
policy differences between the two White Houses, that's a pretty
big one. Trump's encouraging them to take out the nuclear facilities,
which I think they should also, Right.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
If you're looking for a reason to hold your nose
and go ahead and cast a vote despite your ill
ease with one candidate or the other. I would say,
the one who's standing up against the axis of Islamist
nut jobbery and viciousness is you know, perhaps a better choice.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But that's up to you. Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I've been reading a great deal about let's about October
seventh itself, because I fully absorbed that horror on that
day and have been reminded of it plenty of times.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Although it's just unspeakable.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I was just I was just looking at they
have a like a moment of silence going on right
now at the grounds of the Nova Music Festival. I
have stood on some like battlefields. I've been to ground zero,
you know, places where people died and everything like that. Man,
I don't know if I could handle that music festival
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ground one year later with some of the stories that
have come out of there, all those people chopped up
and raped to death and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh my god, that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, never mind the kibbutzas, the homes where families were
burned alive, children executed, mothers raped in front of their children,
then murdered.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Unspeakable horror by subhuman animals. In my opinion, Israel says
nearly twelve hundred people died that day. That's how they
said it on NPR, Israel says as opposed to just
reporting the number. And then they went Hamas says forty
thousand people have died, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
So they're putting them you know, yeah, they're both saying this.
Who knows what's true and what's not? Really wow, As.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Usual, my focus is more on what to do about it,
as opposed to, you know, the mourning part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And that's fine. I'm not saying it's in appropate.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
But I'm especially curious about the way things are going
to go in the Middle East and with Israel specifically.
And I was intrigued by some writing by Shandy Race
in the Wall Street Journal one year after October seventh,
Israel sees a future at war, And I was.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just scanning the article. It takes a long time to
get to it.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I thought the key sentence from it, and I'm going
to counter, I'm sorry, I'm going to paraphrase is that
Israel's new peace plan is to defeat its enemies. And
when you look at it like that and phrase it
like that, I think it gives you the clarity you need.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
One year, I'm going to quote from the article.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Now, one year after the brutal Hamas attack that ended
Israel's two decade golden age of relative peace, expanding wealth,
and growing diplomatic ties, the country is now firmly on
the counter attack.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And preparing to be at war. For years.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Lost a series of stunning attacks, they go into the list.
The campaign marks an aggressive shift in Israel's security posture.
For years, the military aim to provide long stretches of
piece that were only momentarily punctured by short conflicts with
Palestinian militants. There were occasional military maneuvers aimed at downgrading
the axis, but they were never severe enough to draw retaliation.
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Then they mentioned that Israel saw its GDP sore. It's
bustling capital, Tel Aviv, became a beautiful, affluent Mediterranean city.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But after October seventh.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Israel can no longer allow its enemies the time and
space to build up arsenals that can pose an existential threat.
Many have come to believe quote preemptive wars will be
in the future of the Israeli part of the Israeli
Toolkit Kit said in National Security advisor. That's clearly true,
absolutely true, and it's not a choice, it's an existential reality.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I don't know what point it would be okay to
say preemptive because it, like I said last week, it
really bothered me that they use that term in the debate.
Would you support or oppose Israel launching a preemptive strike
on Iran? Preemptive after they just had two hundred ballistic
missiles fired up them?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That would be a preemptive strike to hit them back?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
What, Yeah, and something like five hundred if you go
back to April and totally Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah. I like Dn Panels report on CBS because it
did put the focus on what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We're a year out and it's as hot as ever.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
There's a chance Israel and Iran are at full blown
war today. You could make the argument that they already are,
with the United States involved. So, yeah, this thing is
far from decided from what happened a year ago.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
How about this sentence, different piece. Hamasa's massacre last October
seventh was a catastrophe for Israelis, but a year later,
it has also taught the West forgotten lessons about deterrence
political will and the illusions of a liberal, peaceful world.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yep, that's pretty good, I am. Those kind of statements
make me sad because I don't feel like we're I know,
we don't fully understand that as a country.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It's not that surprising that the most comfortable and affluent
countries would be the last to wake up to the
ugly reality that's never ever changed in all of human history,
but once every couple of decades, particularly post fall of
the Soviet Union. And this has made me insane watching
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the politics of this play out.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Once in a while, we fall.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Into this belief that, oh, human nature's changed, we're all interconnected,
they're no more extremists and ugly people. Everything's great. Yeah,
we can disarm and we'll be fine. Israel fell into
that stupor yep, of all places.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah yeah, that's a decent point if they can. You know,
it's not surprising that we do, because we don't have
enemies right on our border firing rockets at us every
day like Israel does. And they still were lulled into complacency.
How about this? This is new Today. French President Emmanuel
Macrone called for a halt on arms deliveries to Israel
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for use in Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who said
blah blah blah, Western leaders don't understand the threat French president,
But how about that France is calling for a halt
for the use of their weapons against Hamas.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Why.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I don't know a lot about the current state of
French politics, just that Macrone's party is starting to flounder.
And if you think jee Biden and Kamala Harris have
a problem with Muslim voters in Michigan, France's entire you know,
the suburbs of Paris are huge enclaves of Muslim voters.
And I just wonder whether that's a domestic political reality
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that you will never read about in your mainstream publications.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
They're not going to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
By the way, the reason Macrone asking Israel to lay
off isn't because it's not a moral judgment. It's an
electoral judgment. You have to dig to find that sort
of you know, perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's also been surprising to me for the past year that,
for whatever reason, American hostages being held by Hamas hasn't
turned into a story. There are still nearly a hundred hostages,
a lot of them may be dead. The ones that aren't,
who knows what the hell is they've been living in
for the last year.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
A lot of women, but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
There are four Americans there that just basically never get
mentioned by either party really or any news outlet.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So getting back to the.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Hostagle, we'll say that again, what is that, Prime Minister
of England.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The return of thescal We need the.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Return of the sausages. It's still bizarre and hilarious. So
they're in context, it's a little less fun yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Getting back to what makes.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It so how funny though, it's a horrific context and
a very important line in front of the un And
this is the one thing that needs to happen, of
all things, God willing the.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Return of the sausages.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean hostages, yes, hostigle.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I am certain that we have crafted the word horrfarious,
something that is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. That was horrfarious.
So getting back to the Wall Street Journal's editorial board.
In a separate piece, they talk about how the world
must never forget the videos of Hamas's atrocity, how they
slaughtered the defenseless deliberately and in close range. I won't
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go on and on took the hostages. Hamas is proud
of this handy work and repeated it would repeat it
if it could. As Hamas Paulaburo member Gazi Ahmad put
it on Lebon's TV.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
The terror group would like to repeat October seventh.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Again and again. Now this is the part that I
want to at least touch on. Another ugly surprise has
been the support for Hamas's argument in the West, especially
on elite college campuses. The intellectual case for murderous terror,
made by Franz Fannon and taught without hesitation for two generations,
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has poisoned the young against their own civilization. Students for
Justice in Palestine on October seventh, these are Americans called
it a historic win for Palestinian resistance, and anti Semitism
was tolerated by university presidents as free speech. I don't
expect you to spend a lot of time and energy
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getting up to speed on this. I hope you can
just trust me on this, and if you want, read
James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose's Cynical Theories. It's an absolutely
terrific book and helps you understand what's going on with
the neo Marxism, but I went ahead and dug back
into France.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Fannon who he was. He is an.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Incredibly influential thinker on the campuses of America's quote unquote eliteies.
He was a French Afro Caribbean psychiatrist, political philosopher and
Marxist from Martinique, French colony at the time. His works
have become influential in the fields of post colonial studies,
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critical theory, and Marxism. He was a political radical, a
Marxist humanist, and was concerned with the psychopathology of colonization.
Among his many theories is that anything, anything, anything is
justified in the name of decolonization. Any brutality is justified
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to decolonialize. The kids are just spouting what their professors
have taught them. And by the way, Fannin also said
to achieve full decolonization, the post colonial society should reject
European capitalism as a path to economic and social development.
He is a full on violent Marxist and he you've
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never heard heard his name before.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's funny, because your.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Little kids are paying an arm of a leg in
a neck for their tuition, are being taught about Fannin
all day long.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I just downloaded the Cynical Theories audio book. I need
to listen to that because I haven't gotten around to
it yet. And mentioned that noble musical festival where they
Hamas went in and murdered all those lots of lots
of young girls. All it was a peace festival, all
filled with people who believe in, let's be friends with
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the moss. Right here on the border, we can all
get along. They came in and raped you to death.
College kids, if you had been there at the peace
festival saying up with the Moss, they would have come.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Into a machine, gunned you yeah, and raped you yeah.
What the hell? How do you not get that? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I got lots of other stuff on the way. I
have a Beethoven question for Joe. It's very important. Much
On the way, stay here, a woman in Italy has
set a new world record for having the world's thickest tongue.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Reach for comment. The woman said, thanks, how about that?
Too easy? Easy? But it still made me laugh out loud.
I think it because he took the easy joke was
just funny.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Sight coming up, we'll hear a little of Trump from
his big rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend at the
spot where he got shot at and Elon was there,
so that was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And how politics are tearing apart. A California retirement community.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I listened to a tremendous amount of beeth often over
the weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Generally I don't listen to any so any amount would
be a lot more, but a lot like constantly over
the weekend. It was really digging it. I got back
into this book I started reading years ago about Beethoven's
Ninth Symphony. There's a whole book about it. And the
anniversary is this year is the two one hundred year anniversary.
It was eighteen twenty four, two hundred year aniversary of
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Beethoven's first playing of the ninth century, and there's a
whole book about it.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Night Symphony is a whole book about it.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But anyway, if you were recommending because you like classical
music and listen to it, if you were gonna like
if you were if somebody is saying, I really like
Bruce Springsteen, what should I listen to? You would have
a couple of songs to point him to that are
like the best examples of why people like Bruce Springsteen.
What would what would be your recommendations for Beethoven? Oh goodness,
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if you're going to throw on well, that's not right,
because you might throw on stuff that's not the best introduction,
because you're tired of Stairway.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
To Heaven or Born to Run or whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I would like to think I'm unpretentious enough though, to say, oh,
you're just getting into this band, here's where it is.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
In fact, I do do that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So I just so, where do you start with Beethoven?
I can tell you what my favorite is, having gone
through it quite a bit over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Well, obviously, you know, people know the fifth Symphony Boum,
and then they know enough of the first movement that
that can get them into it. I would recommend if
you want to do this, listen to the same symphony
three times in a row. Because there are so many
ideas and the complexity is so much different than a
pop song, it takes you a while to get it.
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Once you get it, and you hear one idea flow
into another and then become a third idea that combines
the two, and then you hear a variation of the
first idea, and you just it's such a groove. It's
so cool, but it's it's it's like the difference between
learning your ABC's and and learning, you know, nuclear science.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Certainly a lot easier to listen to call me maybe
than it is the beef Oven as.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Somebody who's jamming the uh we're getting tipsy at the bar,
song on the golf course the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm a big fan of the sixth Symphony, the Pastoral Symphony,
which is all about walking through a field. And as
a guy who's walked through many fields as a rube,
love that.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
And then a giant thunderstorm breaks out and there's violence
and storm and drong. But then the sunshine emerges again,
the beasts come out, and the birds twitter.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I love the sex.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I have so much more to say about Beethoven, the
person that I wanted to get to, but maybe another time.
He was an He was an angry man, just kind
of funny because.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He hated poppies.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And massive crowd in Pennsylvania at the site where Trump
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got shot in the first assassination at tenth and the
crowd goes wild from Lee Greenwood. They're singing God, Bussy,
you say, I'm listening to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That is something I'm struck.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
By.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
The oversimplification but powerful description. One of the candidates and
his voters clearly love the United States of America, and
one side seems ashamed of the country. It's an overstatement, oversimplification,
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like I said, but I think it's mostly true.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's a lot of energy outside of Barack Obama. In
my life, I don't remember anybody getting crowds to sound
like that. So Trump gets up there and they put
up the chart that he turned to look at last
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time he was there, and if he hadn't turned to
look at the chart, he'd probably be dead, as we
all know. He turns, the bullet whizzes by, catches his ear,
and they put up the chart, and here's Trump.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Thank you, a very big thank you to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We love Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And as I was saying, oh, I love that, I
love that chart.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I love that graph. Isn't it a beautiful thing?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
But also beautiful because look at the number that's the
day I left office, it was the lowest border patrol,
the lowest it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Actually gets into some of the policy stuff, which is,
you know, the stuff people care about the economy, and immigration.
Love when he sticks with that, hate when he doesn't.
Elon Musk was there and it got mentioned a little
in the news. If Beyonce or Bruce Springsteen were on
stage with Kamala Harris, it would get lots of attention,
as if that freaking matters. But the world's most successful man,
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who you could actually make an arm argument you know
what he thinks matters, was there and whatever, He's just
a Trump or so who cares, It's just not really
worth mentioning in the evening news. Bruce Springsteen huge coverage
Elon support video on every news channel of please, oh yeah, why?
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Why am I making a difficult comparison? What if Elon
Musk was doing the same thing for Kamala Harris and
on stage and talking about her and throwing his support
behind her, obviously they'd be talked up as a huge deal. Anyway,
here's a little Elon.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
But the true test of someone's character is how they
behave under fire. And we had one president who couldn't
climb a flat of stairs and another who was fist
pumping after getting shot.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Fight fight, fight, So Elon on his Twitter feed, what
followers does he have?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Let me look that up real quick on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
He his avatar used to be him in a weird
spaceman outfit for some, but now his avatar is him
in a Maga hat make America Great Again hat. He
has two hundred million followers. That's that's a solid following
that could that could actually move some votes among especially
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among like young men who look to really successful other men,
as you know, for some guidance in the world.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, I think so, given how close things are, I
think it's significant. Yeah, that's not like when the senator
from Ohio is he's in der he's announced his endorsement.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, and I've been mocking endorsements in my entire talk
radio career. I generally think they don't matter at all.
But I could see him Elon Musk walking out there
being a nudge direction or another. It is amazing that
the world's richest man has thrown his support is solidly
behind one candidate. I'm not even sure I think it's
a good idea for him, but he thinks he is.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, we'll let him say why would I say it?
The next clip there, Michael fifty.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Six, thanks, the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is no ordinary election.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech.
You must have free speech in order to have democracy.
That's why it's the first Amendment, and the second Amendment
is there to ensure that we have the first Amendment.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
This last thirty days, I guess twenty eight days as
of tomorrow. This last four week stretch is going to
be wild. The intensity was ratcheted up so much yesterday.
I noticed on the Sunday talk shows, which nobody watches
and you shouldn't to waste your life, but the intensity
and exaggerations, slash lies from everybody was ratcheted up quite
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a bit from previous weeks and it was already at ten.
So this last four week stretch is going to be nutty.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I loved was it Margaret Brennan or one.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Of the lefty she Wolves of Sunday TV Meet the Press,
Kristen Welker, saying that the idea that FEMA spent money
on illegal immigrants is false. That's an urban legend, that's
false when it's clearly documentably true that they have tens
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of million, hundreds of millions at all. Oh, by the way,
not a she wolf, lovely and nice person. We've had
on the air many many times. Shannon Breem of Fox,
who's a very smart woman. She interviewed Tim Walls. Credit
to Tim Walls for going on Fox and answering the
hard questions.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But man, she was ready to go. Well, I have
to play some of that later in its own segment
because there's a.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Lot of good stuff there.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And she nailed down that whole some of the abortion
claims about various women that have died. She clarified that
in a way that they certainly didn't do on the
debate the other nights. We'll play some of that later
for you left.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
The old coach is sputtering, Well, here's a revolutionary idea.
You give me ninety seconds to lay out the case
that Harris Waltz are hostile to free speech.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Will break on time and come back with that. Okay,
we could any I.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Wonder hear about the old folks home. You're telling me
about that sound very jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't know, No, I don't know. I've got like
ninety seconds.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I can tell a long, rambling thing about old folks
are at each other's throats over politics in the Bay
Area of California. Gee, I guess which side is trying
to express the other one. Uh, we can't get to
that eventually, right, Well, we've lost forty five seconds now
arguing about which thing I'm going to do, So now
I have time to do neither.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And that's disappointing to both to me and the audience.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And the milliar the lawyer milks the goat or the
and and so she sold her hair brush. She sold
her hair to buy a hairbrush for something.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, something something, and then the goat, yeah, yeah, I will.
I will tell you this Harrison Walls together, if you
weave together the many statements that they have made of
the sort I mean, for instance, the First Amendment doesn't
protect hate speech or misinformation. That is specifically what it
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freaking protects.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That is at the core of it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Unpopular speech, controversial speech, speech which you would like to ban,
and the whole fire and a crowded theater thing, which
is from the terrible Shank versus the US case. And
never repeat that, by the way, it's it's falsehood. But
when you read down the whole case that can be
made against Harris Walls and their record on free speech,
it is a serious threat to free speech. This is
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not some sort of fanciful. You know, paranoia, exercise in paranoia. Now, granted,
especially as it's currently constituted the free the Supreme Court
would eventually just absolutely sack it out of the park
if the case went before them. But they are trying
to aggressively tout the idea that they can regulate speech
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and approve and disapprove your political speech over and over again.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well that's what disgusting Gavin was trying to do in
California right by outlawing ai satire. So who's gonna determine
what's the satire and what's not? You Ald, you have
a panel of geniuses that will get it right. That's
so crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, the federal judge took about as long to look
at that case as you would if your kids suggested
you get a grizzly bear. I mean, judge was like
no with.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
This, okay?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Little Tim Walls on Fox News Sunday again, credit to
him for going in and how my we gole head?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
At times you are a knuckleheaded.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Times more on the way stay here.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I will own up when I misspeak, I will owe
up when I make a mistake. My constituents here in
Minnesota have elected me eight times. They know where I'm at,
and I'm poud to be on the ticket and we'll
deliver just like we have here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Okay, there's Tim Walls who was on Fox News Sunday yesterday,
and good for him for going onto that show. Although
if you're a Republican, your only option for news coverage
is to go into the lions Den every day, all
day long, constantly. But it's a big deal if a
Democrat ever does it, because they don't have to very often.
And anyway, for whatever reason, Tim Walls went on there,
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and I was glad that Shannon Breen, the host of
Fox News Sunday, got into some of this abortion stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
He threw around a lot of names of a lot
of women.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Who either were really hurt or died because they couldn't
get what do they call it, women's.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Reprovotive health care in particular?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Now, no doubt there it is more restrictive in some
areas of the country. It's harder to get an abortion
than it used to be. But if you've got lots
of examples of women dying because of this, then why
would you have to make up some of them like
it seems Tim Walls has done.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Let's listen to this conversation.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
I want to clarify what the law is there in Minnesota.
Abortion Finder, a website that helps women find access, says
abortion is legal throughout pregnancy in Minnesota. There is no
ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how
far along in a pregnancy you are. You sign the
bill that makes it legal through all nine months. Is
that a position you think Democrats should advocate for nationally?
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Look, the Vice President, I have been clear, the restoration
of Roe versus Wade is what we're asking for.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This Womanblrov Wade can make our own. The law is
very clear.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
It does not change that that has been debunked on
every occasion.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But this is age. Let's agree.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
What you signed is there's not a single limit through
nine months of pregnancy. Roe had a trimester framework that
did have limits through the pregnancy. The Minnesota law does
not have that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
This puts.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
This puts the decision with the woman in her health
care providers. The situation we have is when you don't
have the ability of health care provide to provide that.
That's where you end up with a situation like Amanda's
Worski in Texas, where they are afraid to do what's necessary.
This doesn't change anything. It puts the decision back on
to the woman, to the physicians, and we know that
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this is simply something to be brought up.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So that was the topic of the law that he
signed in Minnesota, and whether or not it allows abortion
clear up to the end or perhaps beyond, which he
said had been fact checked to death.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's been fact checked to death against you, right, so yeah,
and then well.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
He's tired of it too much fact checking.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And then a couple of the names that he throws
around of women that died because of not beginning being
able to get the proper care in his words, one
of them being a woman in Georgia. Shannon Breem made
this point, but to be clear.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
That lot it's far beyond rov Wade and about the
inber Thurban case in Georgia. Her family has and it's tragic.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
She is a young.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Mother who left behind a young son. So what her
family has said is it was a complication from an
abortion pill that she received and she didn't get proper
care when she went to a Georgia hospital, which had
multiple opportunities to intervene there.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Her own attorney.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
The family's attorney says it wasn't the Georgia law, it
was the hospitals. What he claims is malpractice not treating
for her when she clearly showed up in distress and
still had the byproducts of her pregnancy because of that
rare complication from the abortion pill. So just to be
clear on the Georgia law and how her family and
her attorney sees it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Now, that's one of the names they throw around constantly,
this poor woman down in Georgia who died as an
example of the evil right wing abortion laws. And you know, again,
if you got a whole bunch of good examples of
how women are dying left and right from not being
able to get the proper abortions, then why do you
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throw out one that's clearly a lie, as Shannon Brene
pointed out there, and you can google it, and it's
not just in New York Post and Fox. There are
plenty of other publications that point out her own lawyers
saying no, it wasn't about the abortion. It was a
bad the hospital did a bad job of treating somebody.
And people die from mistakes all the time in this country,
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and this is one of them.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
They're trying to make the argument that the doctors are
so terrified by the new abortion laws in Georgia, for instance,
that they're afraid to go anywhere near a woman's reproductive parts.
But that is absolutely not the case in this case.
Shannon Bream, by the way, is painstakingly fair. She is
a paragon among quote unquote journalists these days, and I
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thought she was very fair in that interview too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
But I know you agree, So that's why I'm saying it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Clearly, it's true that if you had a whole bunch
of good examples of women dying because of restrictive abortion policies,
you would drop them out.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
But you've got like three names you hammer over and
over again.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
At least one of them and the other two were suspective,
but at least one of them is clearly bogus.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, it's another example of the Joe Getty axiom that
people don't offer terrible arguments or examples because they're keeping
their good ones fresh for the weekend. Now they offer
them because that's all they've got. It's a tragic story,
and you know it's worth mentioning that they've worked very,
very hard to make the so called abortion pill very
very easy to get with few limitations. There is a
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surprisingly high rate of complications with that women in UH
I can't remember what I headed in front of me,
and I don't now forgive me, but it is a
high enough percentage of complications where women have to go
get emergency room care. That the idea of making it
effortless to get with no strings attached, and you just
read the warning label on the bottle, it's probably unwise,
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even if you're in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And on this topic, Tim Walls and his boss Kamala
Harris continue to go around. She'll probably say it on
Sixty Minutes tonight, She'll probably say it on Howard Stern Tomorrow,
she'll probably we say it on I think she's on
a Jimmy Fowler, Jimmy Kimmel this week. Kamala Harris will
probably continue to repeat that Donald Trump wants to sign
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an abortion ban, even though Donald Trump has stated the opposite.
But anyway that came up yesterday, it should.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Be very clear Donald Trump's asking for a nation wide
abortion bank.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
And again we don't see this that he will not
sign a national abortion ban. Are you calling that just
it's a flat out line.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Yes, of course, and Senator Vance has in the past
said so too. Now, look, they may see this as
an election issue. We see it as a right of
women to make their own bodily decisions. And that's what
the states like my state have the ability to put
that in states like Georgia force women to cross the border.
And then we have a death of Amber Thurmott. So
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let's be very again.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So there you're going to so he just blows by
her saying but the candidates are saying the opposite of that.
He just blows by that as if that wasn't said,
and then goes back to ander Amber Thurman, who's the
woman in Georgia who died from complications, not the whole
abortion thing. So, as Britt Hume tweeted out yesterday, this
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is objectively false. Both men Trump and Vance have said
they oppose an abortion ban. Trump said he would veto
the measure if it passed Congress.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He would veto his own Republican Congress. I mean, what
else do you get. He said it out loud, and
it would never get through the Senate anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
We are arguing dishonestly about something that will never happen.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
This is America's politics. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's shocking though, that they continue to go around stating
the opposite of what Vance and Trump are saying on
the campaign trail.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
If I was one of the uber cynical political operatives
that run the show these days, I'd say, what do
you want him to run on?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Jack?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
The economy, on immigration, on are great forward relations?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now we're gonna run out of portion. It's all we got.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It is one of their most animating issues. Definitely, Kamala
Harrison sixty Minutes tonight will be something to watch, although
I don't trust sixty minutes to leave in anything that
would make her look bad.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
And the current president's incoherent anyway. That's kind of your
wrap up for the day, Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong
and Jettietie and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The FBI and Department of Homeland Security has issued a
warning saying October seventh, quote maybe a motivating factor for
violent extrements and hate crime perpetrators who are trying to
threaten public safety. The agency advising potential targets include synagogue, moss,
Islamic and community centers, and large gatherings. Authorities are concerned
over the possibility of lone wolf attacks, but authorities at
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this time say there's no credible threat but remain on
high alerts.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
And it's a one year anniversary of the massacre in
Israel by Hamas, and they always do this around anniversaries.
I don't know if I remember a single example of
an anniversary leading to something, but it's not roy terrorists
generally work actually, But anyway, that's a separate story. Let's
hear one more report.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
On this before we start commenting.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
This is already now a much wider war. What started
in and around Gaza on October the seventh, that singular
terrifying attack inside Israel is now morphed into a conflict
that has drawn in Lebanon, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yeminence.
We've now had fourteen straight days of.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Day and night bombing.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
I think a lot now depends on how Israel response
to that Uranian missile stripe does. Nettanna, who now decide
to settle all scores for all the enemies he has
around him. Iran is enemy number one certainly for Netanya?
Who or can the US persuade Natannaho to try and
calibrate his response to reduce the risk of even further escalation.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
By the way, Trump over the weekend, in an interview,
said Israel absolutely should take out those nuclear facilities, Joe
Biden having said specifically no, Israel should not.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Do you escalate?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Right, have that on the list. Which that's a pretty
big difference right there. I mean, if you're looking for
policy differences between the two White Houses, that's a pretty
big one. Trump's encouraging them to take out the nuclear facilities,
which I think they should also, Right.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
If you're looking for a reason to hold your nose
and go ahead and cast a vote despite your ill
ease with one candidate or the other. I would say,
the one who's standing up against the axis of Islamist
nut jobbery and viciousness is you know, perhaps a better choice.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
But that's up to you. Of course.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I've been reading a great deal about let's about October
seventh itself, because I fully absorbed that horror on that
day and have been reminded of it plenty of times.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Although it's just unspeakable.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, I was just I was just looking at they
have a like a moment of silence going on right
now at the grounds of the Nova Music Festival. I
have stood on some like battlefields. I've been to ground zero,
you know, places where people died and everything like that. Man,
I don't know if I could handle that music festival
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ground one year later with some of the stories that
have come out of there, all those people chopped up
and raped to death and everything like that.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Oh my god, that is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Yeah, never mind the kibbutzas, the homes where families were
burned alive, children executed, mothers raped in front of their children,
then murdered.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Unspeakable horror by subhuman animals. In my opinion, Israel says
nearly twelve hundred people died that day. That's how they
said it on NPR, Israel says as opposed to just
reporting the number. And then they went Hamas says forty
thousand people have died, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
So they're putting them you know, yeah, they're both saying this.
Who knows what's true and what's not? Really wow, As.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Usual, my focus is more on what to do about it,
as opposed to, you know, the mourning part of it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And that's fine. I'm not saying it's in appropate.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
But I'm especially curious about the way things are going
to go in the Middle East and with Israel specifically.
And I was intrigued by some writing by Shandy Race
in the Wall Street Journal one year after October seventh,
Israel sees a future at war, And I was.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Just scanning the article. It takes a long time to
get to it.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
I thought the key sentence from it, and I'm going
to counter, I'm sorry, I'm going to paraphrase is that
Israel's new peace plan is to defeat its enemies. And
when you look at it like that and phrase it
like that, I think it gives you the clarity you need.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
One year, I'm going to quote from the article.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Now, one year after the brutal Hamas attack that ended
Israel's two decade golden age of relative peace, expanding wealth,
and growing diplomatic ties, the country is now firmly on
the counter attack.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
And preparing to be at war. For years.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Lost a series of stunning attacks, they go into the list.
The campaign marks an aggressive shift in Israel's security posture.
For years, the military aim to provide long stretches of
piece that were only momentarily punctured by short conflicts with
Palestinian militants. There were occasional military maneuvers aimed at downgrading
the axis, but they were never severe enough to draw retaliation.
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Then they mentioned that Israel saw its GDP sore. It's
bustling capital, Tel Aviv, became a beautiful, affluent Mediterranean city.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
But after October seventh.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Israel can no longer allow its enemies the time and
space to build up arsenals that can pose an existential threat.
Many have come to believe quote preemptive wars will be
in the future of the Israeli part of the Israeli
Toolkit Kit said in National Security advisor. That's clearly true,
absolutely true, and it's not a choice, it's an existential reality.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I don't know what point it would be okay to
say preemptive because it, like I said last week, it
really bothered me that they use that term in the debate.
Would you support or oppose Israel launching a preemptive strike
on Iran? Preemptive after they just had two hundred ballistic
missiles fired up them?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That would be a preemptive strike to hit them back?
Speaker 5 (06:10):
What, Yeah, and something like five hundred if you go
back to April and totally Yeah, good point.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah. I like Dn Panels report on CBS because it
did put the focus on what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
We're a year out and it's as hot as ever.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
There's a chance Israel and Iran are at full blown
war today. You could make the argument that they already are,
with the United States involved. So, yeah, this thing is
far from decided from what happened a year ago.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
How about this sentence, different piece. Hamasa's massacre last October
seventh was a catastrophe for Israelis, but a year later,
it has also taught the West forgotten lessons about deterrence
political will and the illusions of a liberal, peaceful world.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yep, that's pretty good, I am. Those kind of statements
make me sad because I don't feel like we're I know,
we don't fully understand that as a country.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
It's not that surprising that the most comfortable and affluent
countries would be the last to wake up to the
ugly reality that's never ever changed in all of human history,
but once every couple of decades, particularly post fall of
the Soviet Union. And this has made me insane watching
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the politics of this play out.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Once in a while, we fall.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Into this belief that, oh, human nature's changed, we're all interconnected,
they're no more extremists and ugly people. Everything's great. Yeah,
we can disarm and we'll be fine. Israel fell into
that stupor yep, of all places.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah yeah, that's a decent point if they can. You know,
it's not surprising that we do, because we don't have
enemies right on our border firing rockets at us every
day like Israel does. And they still were lulled into complacency.
How about this? This is new Today. French President Emmanuel
Macrone called for a halt on arms deliveries to Israel
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for use in Gaza. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who said
blah blah blah, Western leaders don't understand the threat French president,
But how about that France is calling for a halt
for the use of their weapons against Hamas.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Why.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
I don't know a lot about the current state of
French politics, just that Macrone's party is starting to flounder.
And if you think jee Biden and Kamala Harris have
a problem with Muslim voters in Michigan, France's entire you know,
the suburbs of Paris are huge enclaves of Muslim voters.
And I just wonder whether that's a domestic political reality
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that you will never read about in your mainstream publications.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
They're not going to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
By the way, the reason Macrone asking Israel to lay
off isn't because it's not a moral judgment. It's an
electoral judgment. You have to dig to find that sort
of you know, perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's also been surprising to me for the past year that,
for whatever reason, American hostages being held by Hamas hasn't
turned into a story. There are still nearly a hundred hostages,
a lot of them may be dead. The ones that aren't,
who knows what the hell is they've been living in
for the last year.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
A lot of women, but.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
There are four Americans there that just basically never get
mentioned by either party really or any news outlet.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So getting back to the.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Hostagle, we'll say that again, what is that, Prime Minister
of England.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The return of thescal We need the.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Return of the sausages. It's still bizarre and hilarious. So
they're in context, it's a little less fun yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Getting back to what makes.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It so how funny though, it's a horrific context and
a very important line in front of the un And
this is the one thing that needs to happen, of
all things, God willing the.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Return of the sausages.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I mean hostages, yes, hostigle.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
I am certain that we have crafted the word horrfarious,
something that is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious. That was horrfarious.
So getting back to the Wall Street Journal's editorial board.
In a separate piece, they talk about how the world
must never forget the videos of Hamas's atrocity, how they
slaughtered the defenseless deliberately and in close range. I won't
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go on and on took the hostages. Hamas is proud
of this handy work and repeated it would repeat it
if it could. As Hamas Paulaburo member Gazi Ahmad put
it on Lebon's TV.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
The terror group would like to repeat October seventh.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Again and again. Now this is the part that I
want to at least touch on. Another ugly surprise has
been the support for Hamas's argument in the West, especially
on elite college campuses. The intellectual case for murderous terror,
made by Franz Fannon and taught without hesitation for two generations,
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has poisoned the young against their own civilization. Students for
Justice in Palestine on October seventh, these are Americans called
it a historic win for Palestinian resistance, and anti Semitism
was tolerated by university presidents as free speech. I don't
expect you to spend a lot of time and energy
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getting up to speed on this. I hope you can
just trust me on this, and if you want, read
James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose's Cynical Theories. It's an absolutely
terrific book and helps you understand what's going on with
the neo Marxism, but I went ahead and dug back
into France.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Fannon who he was. He is an.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Incredibly influential thinker on the campuses of America's quote unquote eliteies.
He was a French Afro Caribbean psychiatrist, political philosopher and
Marxist from Martinique, French colony at the time. His works
have become influential in the fields of post colonial studies,
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critical theory, and Marxism. He was a political radical, a
Marxist humanist, and was concerned with the psychopathology of colonization.
Among his many theories is that anything, anything, anything is
justified in the name of decolonization. Any brutality is justified
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to decolonialize. The kids are just spouting what their professors
have taught them. And by the way, Fannin also said
to achieve full decolonization, the post colonial society should reject
European capitalism as a path to economic and social development.
He is a full on violent Marxist and he you've
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never heard heard his name before.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's funny, because your.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Little kids are paying an arm of a leg in
a neck for their tuition, are being taught about Fannin
all day long.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
I just downloaded the Cynical Theories audio book. I need
to listen to that because I haven't gotten around to
it yet. And mentioned that noble musical festival where they
Hamas went in and murdered all those lots of lots
of young girls. All it was a peace festival, all
filled with people who believe in, let's be friends with
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the moss. Right here on the border, we can all
get along. They came in and raped you to death.
College kids, if you had been there at the peace
festival saying up with the Moss, they would have come.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Into a machine, gunned you yeah, and raped you yeah.
What the hell? How do you not get that? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I got lots of other stuff on the way. I
have a Beethoven question for Joe. It's very important. Much
On the way, stay here, a woman in Italy has
set a new world record for having the world's thickest tongue.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Reach for comment. The woman said, thanks, how about that?
Too easy? Easy? But it still made me laugh out loud.
I think it because he took the easy joke was
just funny.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Sight coming up, we'll hear a little of Trump from
his big rally in Pennsylvania over the weekend at the
spot where he got shot at and Elon was there,
so that was a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And how politics are tearing apart. A California retirement community.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I listened to a tremendous amount of beeth often over
the weekend.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Generally I don't listen to any so any amount would
be a lot more, but a lot like constantly over
the weekend. It was really digging it. I got back
into this book I started reading years ago about Beethoven's
Ninth Symphony. There's a whole book about it. And the
anniversary is this year is the two one hundred year anniversary.
It was eighteen twenty four, two hundred year aniversary of
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Beethoven's first playing of the ninth century, and there's a
whole book about it.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Night Symphony is a whole book about it.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But anyway, if you were recommending because you like classical
music and listen to it, if you were gonna like
if you were if somebody is saying, I really like
Bruce Springsteen, what should I listen to? You would have
a couple of songs to point him to that are
like the best examples of why people like Bruce Springsteen.
What would what would be your recommendations for Beethoven? Oh goodness,
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if you're going to throw on well, that's not right,
because you might throw on stuff that's not the best introduction,
because you're tired of Stairway.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
To Heaven or Born to Run or whatever.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
I would like to think I'm unpretentious enough though, to say, oh,
you're just getting into this band, here's where it is.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
In fact, I do do that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
So I just so, where do you start with Beethoven?
I can tell you what my favorite is, having gone
through it quite a bit over the weekend.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Well, obviously, you know, people know the fifth Symphony Boum,
and then they know enough of the first movement that
that can get them into it. I would recommend if
you want to do this, listen to the same symphony
three times in a row. Because there are so many
ideas and the complexity is so much different than a
pop song, it takes you a while to get it.
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Once you get it, and you hear one idea flow
into another and then become a third idea that combines
the two, and then you hear a variation of the
first idea, and you just it's such a groove. It's
so cool, but it's it's it's like the difference between
learning your ABC's and and learning, you know, nuclear science.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Certainly a lot easier to listen to call me maybe
than it is the beef Oven as.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Somebody who's jamming the uh we're getting tipsy at the bar,
song on the golf course the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I'm a big fan of the sixth Symphony, the Pastoral Symphony,
which is all about walking through a field. And as
a guy who's walked through many fields as a rube,
love that.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
And then a giant thunderstorm breaks out and there's violence
and storm and drong. But then the sunshine emerges again,
the beasts come out, and the birds twitter.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I love the sex.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I have so much more to say about Beethoven, the
person that I wanted to get to, but maybe another time.
He was an He was an angry man, just kind
of funny because.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
He hated poppies.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And massive crowd in Pennsylvania at the site where Trump
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got shot in the first assassination at tenth and the
crowd goes wild from Lee Greenwood. They're singing God, Bussy,
you say, I'm listening to the crowd.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That is something I'm struck.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
By.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
The oversimplification but powerful description. One of the candidates and
his voters clearly love the United States of America, and
one side seems ashamed of the country. It's an overstatement, oversimplification,
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like I said, but I think it's mostly true.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's a lot of energy outside of Barack Obama. In
my life, I don't remember anybody getting crowds to sound
like that. So Trump gets up there and they put
up the chart that he turned to look at last
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time he was there, and if he hadn't turned to
look at the chart, he'd probably be dead, as we
all know. He turns, the bullet whizzes by, catches his ear,
and they put up the chart, and here's Trump.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Thank you, a very big thank you to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
We love Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And as I was saying, oh, I love that, I
love that chart.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I love that graph. Isn't it a beautiful thing?
Speaker 6 (19:26):
But also beautiful because look at the number that's the
day I left office, it was the lowest border patrol,
the lowest it's ever been.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Actually gets into some of the policy stuff, which is,
you know, the stuff people care about the economy, and immigration.
Love when he sticks with that, hate when he doesn't.
Elon Musk was there and it got mentioned a little
in the news. If Beyonce or Bruce Springsteen were on
stage with Kamala Harris, it would get lots of attention,
as if that freaking matters. But the world's most successful man,
(19:58):
who you could actually make an arm argument you know
what he thinks matters, was there and whatever, He's just
a Trump or so who cares, It's just not really
worth mentioning in the evening news. Bruce Springsteen huge coverage
Elon support video on every news channel of please, oh yeah, why?
(20:19):
Why am I making a difficult comparison? What if Elon
Musk was doing the same thing for Kamala Harris and
on stage and talking about her and throwing his support
behind her, obviously they'd be talked up as a huge deal. Anyway,
here's a little Elon.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
But the true test of someone's character is how they
behave under fire. And we had one president who couldn't
climb a flat of stairs and another who was fist
pumping after getting shot.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Fight fight, fight, So Elon on his Twitter feed, what
followers does he have?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Let me look that up real quick on Twitter.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
He his avatar used to be him in a weird
spaceman outfit for some, but now his avatar is him
in a Maga hat make America Great Again hat. He
has two hundred million followers. That's that's a solid following
that could that could actually move some votes among especially
(21:25):
among like young men who look to really successful other men,
as you know, for some guidance in the world.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, I think so, given how close things are, I
think it's significant. Yeah, that's not like when the senator
from Ohio is he's in der he's announced his endorsement.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, and I've been mocking endorsements in my entire talk
radio career. I generally think they don't matter at all.
But I could see him Elon Musk walking out there
being a nudge direction or another. It is amazing that
the world's richest man has thrown his support is solidly
behind one candidate. I'm not even sure I think it's
a good idea for him, but he thinks he is.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, we'll let him say why would I say it?
The next clip there, Michael fifty.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Six, thanks, the most important election of our lifetime.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
This is no ordinary election.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
The other side wants to take away your freedom of speech.
You must have free speech in order to have democracy.
That's why it's the first Amendment, and the second Amendment
is there to ensure that we have the first Amendment.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
This last thirty days, I guess twenty eight days as
of tomorrow. This last four week stretch is going to
be wild. The intensity was ratcheted up so much yesterday.
I noticed on the Sunday talk shows, which nobody watches
and you shouldn't to waste your life, but the intensity
and exaggerations, slash lies from everybody was ratcheted up quite
(23:00):
a bit from previous weeks and it was already at ten.
So this last four week stretch is going to be nutty.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I loved was it Margaret Brennan or one.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Of the lefty she Wolves of Sunday TV Meet the Press,
Kristen Welker, saying that the idea that FEMA spent money
on illegal immigrants is false. That's an urban legend, that's
false when it's clearly documentably true that they have tens
(23:32):
of million, hundreds of millions at all. Oh, by the way,
not a she wolf, lovely and nice person. We've had
on the air many many times. Shannon Breem of Fox,
who's a very smart woman. She interviewed Tim Walls. Credit
to Tim Walls for going on Fox and answering the
hard questions.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
But man, she was ready to go. Well, I have
to play some of that later in its own segment
because there's a.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Lot of good stuff there.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
And she nailed down that whole some of the abortion
claims about various women that have died. She clarified that
in a way that they certainly didn't do on the
debate the other nights. We'll play some of that later
for you left.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
The old coach is sputtering, Well, here's a revolutionary idea.
You give me ninety seconds to lay out the case
that Harris Waltz are hostile to free speech.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Will break on time and come back with that. Okay,
we could any I.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Wonder hear about the old folks home. You're telling me
about that sound very jersey.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I don't know, No, I don't know. I've got like
ninety seconds.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I can tell a long, rambling thing about old folks
are at each other's throats over politics in the Bay
Area of California. Gee, I guess which side is trying
to express the other one. Uh, we can't get to
that eventually, right, Well, we've lost forty five seconds now
arguing about which thing I'm going to do, So now
I have time to do neither.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
And that's disappointing to both to me and the audience.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And the milliar the lawyer milks the goat or the
and and so she sold her hair brush. She sold
her hair to buy a hairbrush for something.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Yeah, something something, and then the goat, yeah, yeah, I will.
I will tell you this Harrison Walls together, if you
weave together the many statements that they have made of
the sort I mean, for instance, the First Amendment doesn't
protect hate speech or misinformation. That is specifically what it
(25:22):
freaking protects.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
That is at the core of it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Unpopular speech, controversial speech, speech which you would like to ban,
and the whole fire and a crowded theater thing, which
is from the terrible Shank versus the US case. And
never repeat that, by the way, it's it's falsehood. But
when you read down the whole case that can be
made against Harris Walls and their record on free speech,
it is a serious threat to free speech. This is
(25:47):
not some sort of fanciful. You know, paranoia, exercise in paranoia. Now, granted,
especially as it's currently constituted the free the Supreme Court
would eventually just absolutely sack it out of the park
if the case went before them. But they are trying
to aggressively tout the idea that they can regulate speech
(26:08):
and approve and disapprove your political speech over and over again.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well that's what disgusting Gavin was trying to do in
California right by outlawing ai satire. So who's gonna determine
what's the satire and what's not? You Ald, you have
a panel of geniuses that will get it right. That's
so crazy.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Yeah, the federal judge took about as long to look
at that case as you would if your kids suggested
you get a grizzly bear. I mean, judge was like
no with.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
This, okay?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Little Tim Walls on Fox News Sunday again, credit to
him for going in and how my we gole head?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
At times you are a knuckleheaded.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Times more on the way stay here.
Speaker 8 (26:54):
I will own up when I misspeak, I will owe
up when I make a mistake. My constituents here in
Minnesota have elected me eight times. They know where I'm at,
and I'm poud to be on the ticket and we'll
deliver just like we have here in Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Okay, there's Tim Walls who was on Fox News Sunday yesterday,
and good for him for going onto that show. Although
if you're a Republican, your only option for news coverage
is to go into the lions Den every day, all
day long, constantly. But it's a big deal if a
Democrat ever does it, because they don't have to very often.
And anyway, for whatever reason, Tim Walls went on there,
(27:27):
and I was glad that Shannon Breen, the host of
Fox News Sunday, got into some of this abortion stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
He threw around a lot of names of a lot
of women.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Who either were really hurt or died because they couldn't
get what do they call it, women's.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Reprovotive health care in particular?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Now, no doubt there it is more restrictive in some
areas of the country. It's harder to get an abortion
than it used to be. But if you've got lots
of examples of women dying because of this, then why
would you have to make up some of them like
it seems Tim Walls has done.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Let's listen to this conversation.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
I want to clarify what the law is there in Minnesota.
Abortion Finder, a website that helps women find access, says
abortion is legal throughout pregnancy in Minnesota. There is no
ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how
far along in a pregnancy you are. You sign the
bill that makes it legal through all nine months. Is
that a position you think Democrats should advocate for nationally?
Speaker 8 (28:28):
Look, the Vice President, I have been clear, the restoration
of Roe versus Wade is what we're asking for.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
This Womanblrov Wade can make our own. The law is
very clear.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
It does not change that that has been debunked on
every occasion.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But this is age. Let's agree.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
What you signed is there's not a single limit through
nine months of pregnancy. Roe had a trimester framework that
did have limits through the pregnancy. The Minnesota law does
not have that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
This puts.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
This puts the decision with the woman in her health
care providers. The situation we have is when you don't
have the ability of health care provide to provide that.
That's where you end up with a situation like Amanda's
Worski in Texas, where they are afraid to do what's necessary.
This doesn't change anything. It puts the decision back on
to the woman, to the physicians, and we know that
(29:14):
this is simply something to be brought up.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
So that was the topic of the law that he
signed in Minnesota, and whether or not it allows abortion
clear up to the end or perhaps beyond, which he
said had been fact checked to death.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, it has.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's been fact checked to death against you, right, so yeah,
and then well.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
He's tired of it too much fact checking.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
And then a couple of the names that he throws
around of women that died because of not beginning being
able to get the proper care in his words, one
of them being a woman in Georgia. Shannon Breem made
this point, but to be clear.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
That lot it's far beyond rov Wade and about the
inber Thurban case in Georgia. Her family has and it's tragic.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
She is a young.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
Mother who left behind a young son. So what her
family has said is it was a complication from an
abortion pill that she received and she didn't get proper
care when she went to a Georgia hospital, which had
multiple opportunities to intervene there.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Her own attorney.
Speaker 9 (30:11):
The family's attorney says it wasn't the Georgia law, it
was the hospitals. What he claims is malpractice not treating
for her when she clearly showed up in distress and
still had the byproducts of her pregnancy because of that
rare complication from the abortion pill. So just to be
clear on the Georgia law and how her family and
her attorney sees it.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Now, that's one of the names they throw around constantly,
this poor woman down in Georgia who died as an
example of the evil right wing abortion laws. And you know, again,
if you got a whole bunch of good examples of
how women are dying left and right from not being
able to get the proper abortions, then why do you
(30:51):
throw out one that's clearly a lie, as Shannon Brene
pointed out there, and you can google it, and it's
not just in New York Post and Fox. There are
plenty of other publications that point out her own lawyers
saying no, it wasn't about the abortion. It was a
bad the hospital did a bad job of treating somebody.
And people die from mistakes all the time in this country,
(31:11):
and this is one of them.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
They're trying to make the argument that the doctors are
so terrified by the new abortion laws in Georgia, for instance,
that they're afraid to go anywhere near a woman's reproductive parts.
But that is absolutely not the case in this case.
Shannon Bream, by the way, is painstakingly fair. She is
a paragon among quote unquote journalists these days, and I
(31:36):
thought she was very fair in that interview too.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
But I know you agree, So that's why I'm saying it.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Clearly, it's true that if you had a whole bunch
of good examples of women dying because of restrictive abortion policies,
you would drop them out.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
But you've got like three names you hammer over and
over again.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
At least one of them and the other two were suspective,
but at least one of them is clearly bogus.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah, it's another example of the Joe Getty axiom that
people don't offer terrible arguments or examples because they're keeping
their good ones fresh for the weekend. Now they offer
them because that's all they've got. It's a tragic story,
and you know it's worth mentioning that they've worked very,
very hard to make the so called abortion pill very
very easy to get with few limitations. There is a
(32:24):
surprisingly high rate of complications with that women in UH
I can't remember what I headed in front of me,
and I don't now forgive me, but it is a
high enough percentage of complications where women have to go
get emergency room care. That the idea of making it
effortless to get with no strings attached, and you just
read the warning label on the bottle, it's probably unwise,
(32:47):
even if you're in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And on this topic, Tim Walls and his boss Kamala
Harris continue to go around. She'll probably say it on
Sixty Minutes tonight, She'll probably say it on Howard Stern Tomorrow,
she'll probably we say it on I think she's on
a Jimmy Fowler, Jimmy Kimmel this week. Kamala Harris will
probably continue to repeat that Donald Trump wants to sign
(33:09):
an abortion ban, even though Donald Trump has stated the opposite.
But anyway that came up yesterday, it should.
Speaker 8 (33:15):
Be very clear Donald Trump's asking for a nation wide
abortion bank.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
And again we don't see this that he will not
sign a national abortion ban. Are you calling that just
it's a flat out line.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
Yes, of course, and Senator Vance has in the past
said so too. Now, look, they may see this as
an election issue. We see it as a right of
women to make their own bodily decisions. And that's what
the states like my state have the ability to put
that in states like Georgia force women to cross the border.
And then we have a death of Amber Thurmott. So
(33:48):
let's be very again.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So there you're going to so he just blows by
her saying but the candidates are saying the opposite of that.
He just blows by that as if that wasn't said,
and then goes back to ander Amber Thurman, who's the
woman in Georgia who died from complications, not the whole
abortion thing. So, as Britt Hume tweeted out yesterday, this
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is objectively false. Both men Trump and Vance have said
they oppose an abortion ban. Trump said he would veto
the measure if it passed Congress.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
He would veto his own Republican Congress. I mean, what
else do you get. He said it out loud, and
it would never get through the Senate anyway.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
We are arguing dishonestly about something that will never happen.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
This is America's politics. Yeah, that is.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
That's shocking though, that they continue to go around stating
the opposite of what Vance and Trump are saying on
the campaign trail.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
If I was one of the uber cynical political operatives
that run the show these days, I'd say, what do
you want him to run on?
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Jack?
Speaker 5 (34:55):
The economy, on immigration, on are great forward relations?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Now we're gonna run out of portion. It's all we got.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
It is one of their most animating issues. Definitely, Kamala
Harrison sixty Minutes tonight will be something to watch, although
I don't trust sixty minutes to leave in anything that
would make her look bad.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
And the current president's incoherent anyway. That's kind of your
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