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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Would you invite President Trump to Ukraink displeasure plaus.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Come to see people civillees, warriols, hospitals, churches.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Children destroyed or that that's President Zelensky on sixty minutes
last night. That was about the only part he did
in English. I think he realizes, as many commentators have said,
that part of what went wrong in the Oval Office
US quite a few fridays ago, that big dust up
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with Trump was part of what weren't wrong, was he
was trying to do it in a foreign language. He's
I mean, his English is okay, but it's not his
first language. And he couldn't you know, he didn't pick
up subtleties from them, He couldn't communicate subtlests.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Just that didn't help. So now he's not doing that anymore.
In sixty minutes, he did it all through an interpreter,
except for that one part where I think he wanted to,
you know, have a sound clip out there of him
inviting Trump to Ukraine let's hear a little more and
we can discuss.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You seem to have a real hatred of Vladimir Putin,
the fruit one hundred percent hatred.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
Not even ninety nine point nine.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Percent, so Lensky told us. So, this doesn't mean we
shouldn't work to in the war as soon as possible
and transition to diplomacy. But how else can you see
a person who came here and murdered our people, that
was murdered children. We're inside a school bomb shelter right now,
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the bomb shelter of a school.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, I said earlier that I don't know if
he did himself any favors with Trump. You know, you
do have to say the truth, I think, especially about
who Putin is. I mean, because Trump, you know they're
in the Oval office, said you have such a hatred
for him, you hate him. And how can you have
a piece deal when you hate someone? How would you
not hate Vladimir Putin? You'd be insane to not hate him.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, I am completely mystified by Trump's approach to this,
as I have been for a very long time.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Not even ninety nine percent. I have one hundred percent
hatred for the guy. Of course, you do. He's he's
seen dead bodies and raped grandmas and everything that has happened.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Fifty thousand children abducted. Yeah, oh my wordy of hating.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh my god, that part of the story underreport, Jane,
if it was your child friends.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
More, when President Trump called you a dictator and said
that Ukraine started this war, what did you.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Think, ya, Najl I believe sadly Russian narratives are prevailing
in the US.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
How is it possible to witness our losses and are suffering,
to understand what the Russians are doing, and to still
believe that they are not the aggressors, that they did
not start this war. This speaks to the enormous influence
of Russia's information policy on America, on US politics and
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US politicians.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I thought it was kind of interesting that his take
is that Russia has been successful in their propaganda by
getting to politicians in America and the White House. Is
that the way you read it? I don't know if
I think that's what happened there.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, there's a thread of that because one of the
hottest guests and like the hardcore MAGA podcast circle right
now is Alexander Dugan who is a far right fixture
in Russian politics.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
They called him Putin's brain.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
He's been calling for a rejection of liberal democracy and
like a czarist system and reclaiming all of Russia's empire
and glory of the past. He's like the leading light
of that. And Tucker had him on and Alex Jones
and they talked in friendly fashion and praised a lot
of his ideas.
Speaker 6 (04:41):
His his hook for a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of folks on the right is that, like on both
those shows, he attacked wokeism and transgender activists and attacked
George Soros, winning praise from the hosts. So that's there
is definitely a thread of that in Trump world.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
But there's the.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Idea that Putin is standing up for ironically Western ideals
and norms Christian right.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Absolutely, I agree with that, but I don't think it's
a I don't think it's a republican's falling for Russian
propaganda that pushed this. It's there in it's a co
agreement of a certain worldview that is working out somehow,
which I don't quite understand, Like I just I don't
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get it well.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
That and Trump won to flatter Putin before he started negotiating,
which I can't. That's fine, that's diplomacy, even if it's
a little repugnant at times.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, Zelensky said, and this is where I don't think
he did himself, and he favors now. I was happy
to see. So Trump had a long one of his
really long truth slash tweets that he put out last
night about sixty minutes and how left bleaning it is,
and how it's been sued for billions of dollars and
I'll sue him for more. The last several weeks, they've
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they've had this story couple and we complained about this.
They've had some ridiculous anti Trump stories the last couple
of weeks. But and he this story and the Greenland
story last night, you're just both how so they're just
like paid working for the Democrat stuff. But he did
not criticize Zelensky, which I was kind of surprised because
I thought maybe he would. Zelensky said last night, I
don't want to engage in white House's in the white
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House's altered reality. I mean, that's the sort of thing
Trump could have reacted to. But what what is you know,
Zelensky's got to do whatever he's got to do to
try to get help from the United States. So maybe
you have to bite your tongue if you think that's
the best play. But I mean, what, why what a
very tongue by thee that last quote you hit us.
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I don't want to engage in the White House's altered reality.
I'm just saying I don't. I don't know why you
wouldn't say that, other than you think that's going to
do me more harm than good in trying to get
help from the United States. It is altered reality. If
you think Zelensky's a bad guy and Putin's a good guy,
you're just flat wrong. And I mean, I just you're
just wrong. There's no conversation to be had about that. Now.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That whole thing, well, NATO expanded too much and Russia
was threatened, blah blah blah blah blah. All right, that
could that sort of thing that gets worked out diplomatically
all the time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And was.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Putin wants to be the czar of a reunited Russian Empire.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's it, period. And he's a murderous, evil, lunatic. Yeah,
in the history of Russian leaders. Yeah, he'll sacrifice the
millions he doesn't care.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Zeletski's not a dictator who's trying to do anything awful.
He'll when this is over, he'll you'll never hear from
him again. I would guess he's going to recede into
whatever life. Of course, who knows what rebuilding Ukraine is
going to be, like all the murdered people in crushed
buildings and institutions and everything like that in that country.
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I just I do not understand. I don't even understand
how this is a conversation about which side is a
good side is a bad side. I do understand the
conversation of it's not our fight, or there's nothing we
can do anyway, or that's sort of that's all perfectly
fair game.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
We're prolonging the inevitable result from happening, or you know,
delaying it and more people are dying.
Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yeah, that's a that's a legit argument.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's a legiti argument. It's not I'm not on that
side of the argument. I think it's sending the world
the message that yeah, you can take land, and you
can do anything you want and will, and the rest
of the world will let you. I think we'll all
regret that for maybe centuries to come. But it's a
it's a legitimate argument you can have. But the whole
Putin is standing up for Christianity or whatever. I got
no time for that, zero time for that, right.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Uh, But I was surprised that Zelenski went as far
as he did and kind of poking at the White House.
I'm not going along with the altered reality that the
White House is putting out. I don't know if that
did him any good.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Pasts more or less unnoticed, I don't know it does.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Trump clearly watched it and and took a pass, and
he doesn't take a pass on everything, as we know.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
One more note on this topic, the whole question of
peace talks and Trump brokering it and ending it, whether
in twenty four hours he just meant he could end
it fairly quickly. That don't take that literally, But it
is so on the back burner. I haven't heard anything
about it. And Putin is going out of his way
to give the middle finger to Trump by bombing the
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very sorts of sights that allegedly there was an agreement
not to bomb in a shoe infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Let's do this story real quick. It's only twenty seconds,
give you an idea what Joe's talking about.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Ukraine says two balistic missiles from Russia struck the bustling
city of Sunni as many people were outmarking Palm Sunday.
Emergency services says more than thirty people, including two children,
were killed and another one hundred and seventeen people were injured.
Ukraine's President Zelenski calling for international pressure on Russia to.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
End the war. Yeah. Early on in the war, you
might might not remember, the use of a ballistic missile
was seen as a really big deal because anytime ballistic
missiles are fired, you don't know if that's a you know,
a nuke or what. So it lands, and that's the
sort of thing. You just don't fire ballistic missiles around. Now,
Russia's using them regularly to bomb schools or random cities
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or whatever and murdered people.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
You're you're sending two ballistic missiles into Palm Sunday Civilian
Palm Sunday celebrations to stand up for Christianity, right, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Blast a bunch of churchgoers into bits. Yeah, and so
this is just saying to Trump, here's what I think
of your peace deal. Speaking of Trump getting you know,
butt hurt over something. I would think that would make
him feel more disrespected than whatever Zelensky said last night.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Right, I wonder what's going on behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I don't know. There's also the what can you do
about it? Right arm Ukraine? The Biden crowd though, thought
that would lead to World War three, and the Trump
crowd might think that too.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I don't know, and that would be in concert
with the Euros who, speaking of but herdedness are a
bit these days because of the tariff deal.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
We should take a break.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
I see times, friends, spicy times.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You want to see we're all proletariat. We would like
to hear your story about going to the Masters, the
most exclusive sports event in the world.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I don't know what you mean by that exactly. It's
tough to get take people like us.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
We can't. Did you get a sniff of this sort
of thing where you hang out with your.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Oligarchy people like you hangs.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Out with your oligarch buddies, among other things. On the
ways to hear the journey is over, McElroy has his masterpiece.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
It's a tradition unlike any other jack the Masters, that's
a golf match.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
It's a tournament. We call it. Yes, it's the golf tournament.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's my super Bowl, which is good for me because
it's four days long as opposed to the regular Super Bowl.
But yeah, I Joe Getty golf freak. Since I was
a little kid, you know, I worked at a golf course.
The idea of membership at some private club was ridiculous
when I was a kid. But I just fell madly
in love with the game, and so it was always
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my dream to go to the Masters. And I went
for the first time several years ago twenty twenty two,
went again this year, just for one day with my
sweet wife, and we had a lovely time. A couple
of things that are especially notable about the Masters if
you've never been to it, that are both of which
are quite amazing. Number One, no cell phones on the
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course for any reason to do anything with them. You
leave them in your car, You surrender them at a
check a little building you can check in, come and
get it after the tournament.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
My biggest question for that is why is that unique?
Why is that worth mentioning? Why doesn't that happen at
like ninety percent of the things I.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Go to right right? And it was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
There are a couple of times it would have been
lovely to take pictures or whatever, but had a couple
of casual conversations with folks that we met during the day,
and everybody was agreed, this is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Everybody always agrees he come back from a camping trip
where you didn't have cell phones, or everybody talks about
it was so nice. But we don't do it voluntarily.
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And my understanding is if you are caught with a
cell phone, using it or violating the rules, not only
are you booted out, but the passes are coded whose
passes they are, whether you bought them through the lottery
or maybe you're using a friends or they're a secondary
market or whatever, and whoever's if you screw around, whoever's
past you're using, loses the right to have a pass
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for from now to the house.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You wouldn't want to just give your past to anybody then.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
So it is the best behaved mass gathering of human
beings on earth.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
It is astonishing how everybody is kind and polite and
well mannered. And when you walk in the gates, they
have a number of volunteers. That's practically incomprehensible. And people
who work there because local school districts can provide the
kids working there, and they get contributions from what I
understand from Augusta National and the Master's Tournament, but I
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don't know the details on that. But you walk in
and before you get to the golf course, because it's
a substantial walk through the grounds and all, you will
have half a dozen people welcome you to the Masters
and tell you they hope you have a great time,
just to be pleasant.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, and that's really interesting that again, that that stands
out as unique an event where they say no cell phones.
I wish I would catch on.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
Yeah. Yeah, it's the best customer service on Earth.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
The bathrooms are better run than most major airports, air
traffic control systems, between the the ropes and the hand gestures,
and they're perfectly clean all day, all of the bathrooms.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
It's astounding. The food.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Now, granted you got to pay a couple bucks to
get into the tournament, but the food, the world famous
pimento cheese sandwiches are a dollar and a half. You
want a fancy pulled pork sandwich, that'll cost you three bucks, sir, and.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
So on so forth. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I don't even know what the beers cost because I
wasn't drinking until we had a wine on our walk out.
But what are you supposed to do? You know what
like an average ticket costs? Are they all the same
in the aftermarket? You would pay four figure maybe, oh yeah, yeah,
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four or five thousand dollars for two passes four day,
four or five thousand dollars. Yes, yeah, It's like a
once in a lifetime experience for most people. I'd say
it is, although you know, as I said to Judy,
we you know, I know a guy who knows a guy.
But I said, you know, honey, look at it like this.
We're going to hit Broadway show and then having dinner
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in Manhattan. It's roughly the same amount of money, and
it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
What I don't have time to talk about right now
was how it was so fantastic because a friend of
mine we're not close, but we know each other and
we're friendly, actually qualified for the Masters and was playing
in it, and we followed him Friday his entire round
as he tried to make the cut. Because it's only
your top fifty guys and ties that play on the
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weekend for the actual championship, and he made the cut
and it was just so exciting, all that tense and
his parents were there and I can't I would have
been vomiting like every other hole if it was my kid.
But they're you know, he's obviously been a very good
golfer for a long time, so they're kind of used
to it, kind of sort of.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
But wow, four or five thousand dollars for who you
to walk around and watch the golf match. Yeah, that
is something.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, we didn't again, we didn't pay that. I probably
wouldn't as I'm the thrifty sort, but right, interesting, it was.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
An amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
If you're in the customer service business, do whatever it
takes to get to the Masters once and you'll see
how it's done.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Armstrong and Getty anew.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Your boy shows that if iPhones were manufactured in the US,
they could cost up to thirty five hundred dollars, which
is a lot, but remember your kids would get an
employee discount.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
That's pretty good joke.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, he use a little child labor, a little slave labor.
All of a sudden, people make fun of you, Hey,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Gotta keep our costs down?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Is your iPhone gonna cost thirty five hundred dollars. We'll
get to that in just a second. Here's the most
vomit inducing thing I've seen today. So earlier today, Jeff
Bezos launched his fiance and some other women into space,
including Katy Perry for some reason and Gail King for
some reason. And they went up into space and came
back and they're all alive.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
You sound surprisingly ambivalent about the survival of the girl stronauts.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Here's the the chick stranauts can go into space. They
went to the edge of space. They went higher than
you go on a plane. Big deal.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
New York Post. New York Post headline is Oprah tears
up watching Gail King go to space. I've never been
more proud. Why? Why? Because she sat in there and
went up and came back and done strapped to a
chair and got shot into almost space.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
You've never been more proud.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Seriously, what kind of an accomplishes that accomplished?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
He's well known because she's on a TV show. Wow,
that's an odd thing to say.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I was more proud when I won the Little League
championship in my hometown at age twelve than I would
be of Gail King being shot very high, kind of
to space.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Michael's got clippies. This is good. How would you describe it?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
It's very difficult because you're you're floating. But the best
part was when we got back in our seats after
zero G's Katie sang, what a wonderful world she did?
She said, what a wonderful I see dreams? Oh yes, yes, yes, oh.
Because we've been asking her.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
To sing all the time and she wouldn't and she wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And then because everybody said sing, roar, sing fire, and
she said, it's not about me.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
I wanted to talk about the world.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Oh my god, you got to ask her about that.
I feel like we could do a week's worth of
shows off about one clip. Oh my god, Oh my god.
So he kept asking Katy Perry, you meet a singer,
and what you do is you keep asking them to
sing some of their hit songs. That's uh, that's that's normal.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
That was one of the most extraordinary and earthy things
I've ever heard in my life. Sing roar, I'm not
gonna sing roar now no, oh what right here?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And then whoever was doing that interview when Gail King says,
we kept asking her to sing and she sang wonder
she did.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh wow, that's like a different species. I know, you know,
I don't what's the quick color is the sky in
your world?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What do things look like in your world? Wow?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Wow? So if i'n I don't know, flying in.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
A stealth bomber with Mick Jagger, I just keep bugging, Hey,
your sympathy for the devil satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
He's like.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Advanced fire play on Earth, but here to celebrate the
fighter plane. Well, how about like I don't know, waiting
on a friend, something that would make me a laughing idiot?
And then he does sing what a wonderful world? And
you cry because you're so amazed. I don't even know
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where to say. No, that's what I mean. God, dang it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You're right that that little clip we played is just
a world that I think most of us don't understand
it at all, any aspect of that, you.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Know, speaking of being a different species. And I know
you have something important to talk about.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Hanson says, we got one more king that might yea, priorities. Okay,
the moon.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Look at the moon.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Okay, I like that better. I mean because maybe the
moon looks cool from really high. Now I'm not going
to say space, but.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Will I will not mock that. I will knock mock them.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So, speaking of different species, my dog is perplexing me.
My dog, Baxter to the dog, he's a fabulous watch dog.
He's half black lab and half border colleagues. So he's
both incredibly friendly and fairly territorial and protect us.
Speaker 6 (22:01):
But so and around he heards us around.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, it's hilarious anyway, but so he One of his
things is if he thinks anybody is on the front
driveway or the porch, bru.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Hey, there's somebody out there. R there might be somebody
out there. Better be cool. Shat you away from us,
show you away from us, bruh.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And if we go out like to talk to somebody,
you can hear him inside the house.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
He's just such a protective dog.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Well, our our big remodel has begun and they're starting
on the outside of the house and we're like, oh man,
this is gonna be nuts.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So there's you know, half a dozen pickup trucks. There's
fifteen guys. There's an earth mover. There's guys like pounding
on the side of the house to get rid of
some of the bricks and stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
He's looking out there, Oh, the construction started. Aren't you
supposed to be like barking like a lunatic?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
He just looks at me as if to say, oh, no, no, no, no,
you hired these people, you idiot.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
No, it's fine, they're good. What's the story? Dog?
Speaker 1 (23:03):
It gets gutter chaos and noise and confusion out there,
and you're like, that's fine.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Go figure.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And I'd love to ask him, so why you hear
anything in the front and you go nuts?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
And now it's just routine e.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
So these headlines came out over the weekend. If you
are following the news, and maybe if you're a normal person,
you weren't, but I was. And so the first headline
from the New York Times iPhones are about to get
more expensive. The future of America's wealthiest company rests on
one man with a tricky task iPhones thirty five hundred
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dollars and talking about cook Two seconds later, the Financial
Times has the headline Trump excludes smartphones from tariffs. Okay, okay,
well that's something so from the Wall Street Journal today
trying to nail on this whole exceptions thing. A string
of mixed signals from the Trump administration over the weekend
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regarding tariffs on smartphones, laptops, and other electronics fueled fresh uncertainty.
Tech investors briefly rejoiced when a notice from the US
Custom and Border Protection. It comes from Custom and Border Protection,
posted late Friday, and they said that computers, tablets, Apple watches,
computer monitors, semiconductor equipment, and other electronics are exempt from
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the many tariffs on Chinese products, and it'll be a
tech part of the ten percent tariff on all stuff.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That settles that, And from the I always check in
on them US Customs and Border Protection people, so they announced,
like the biggest question people have about tariffs is announced
from them late Friday. When asked about the exemption Saturday morning,
Trump told reporters on Air Force One, we'll talk about
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them on Monday, be very specific. Then administration of Fish.
He wouldn't confirm that. He said we'll talk about it Monday,
which made people wonder, well, okay, is it or isn't
it or why don't you just confirm it? So then
yesterday on all the Sunday talk shows, which again, if
you have a life, you didn't watch, including Commerce Secretary
Howard Letnix, said the tech products exempted from tariff's will
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face separate levees in a month or two as part
of a trade investigation, and Peter Navarro said Sunday the
official policy is no exemptions, no exclusions, So it doesn't
seem like Navarro and Lutnik were even together on what
the messaging should be at the same time on different
Sunday shows yesterday. There was no tariff exemption announced on Friday,
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Trump said in his Truth social platform. Later Sunday, after
all of his people had gone on the Sunday shows
with various answers, Trump comes out and says there's no
tariff exception that was announced on Friday. So he's saying
whatever the US Customs and Border Production said is wrong
or doesn't count, or I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wow and Navarro le Lutnick are often on different pages
of the hymn.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Clearly the exemptions, which weren't announced but rather including in
guidance with Customs and Border Protection, initially fueled hope that
the tech industry could avoid the surges. The again, the
border protection customs and Border Protection people, from which I
don't think I've ever said that phrase, and all the
years we've been doing this show, I've never talked about them.
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They stand by except they guard the border, oh right,
But I've never quoted them on anything like this, No,
I mean anything economic. They say they stand by their
Friday announcement. So the Wall Street Journal is completely confused
as to what's going on, and so is everybody else.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
Wow. And I'm just looking to see if there are
any updates, but just the clouds part over Apple's stock
for now.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
So I'm mostly interested in this politically because you know,
the economic thing is going to shake out over time
and either happen or not. But politically that's just not good.
Trump can't have on this issue, the terriff thing. Most
people I think are confused by it, don't know how
it's going to affect them. But if you get like
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a good solid number about something, you know, so many
of us buy smartphones and we find out Jesus is
going to be three times as much, that is a
huge deal. Politically, I think she can't have that out
there if it's not.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
True, well, right, And then there's just I happen to
be reading The Cane Mutiny for the first time. I
need to get back to it after watching too much
golf this weekend. But and just the perception is the
captain worthy of his command? Are things snapping along in
a way that shows that the captain has a plan
it's being executed, And some of this is just it's
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felt like disarray and confusion obviously, and it's just not a.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
Good look for the brand.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Right, So how does so that announcement comes out late Friday? No,
no iPhones don't count. Oh okay, good. Then Trump says Saturday,
I'll tell you Monday. Okay, I don't know. Why did
that we Then he's got two of his experts with
different answers, same time, different Sunday shows than Trump Sunday afternoon.
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No exemptions. Okay, that's works nutty to me.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Lut Nick and clip fifty two, Michael, the wide range
of electronics, including smartphones, that these are now exempt from
the reciprocal tariffs.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Why that move?
Speaker 8 (28:36):
Those products are going to be part of the semiconductor
sectoral tariffs which are coming. That is, different types of work.
So we're going to do that. We did that in autos.
The President's going to do it for pharmaceuticals, and it
is going to do it for semiconductors. So all those
products are going to come under semiconductors and they're going
to have a special focused type of tariff to make
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sure that those products get re short We neat that
these things made in America. We can't be reliant on
Southeast Asia.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
That's a lot of words. Do iPhones. Are the iPhones
gonna cost three times as much or not? Because then
Peter Navarro said, also yesterday different shown no exemptions, no inclusions,
that's the official policy. Trump came out and said no
tariff exemption was announced on Friday, So he's saying whatever
they said Friday from the border people not true.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Lutnick though, seem to be indicating, yeah, it's a different
set of tariffs, will announce those eventually.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, why wouldn't you clear that up between Friday night
and this morning.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Or just have all of that figured out before you
try it out any of Yeah, but that's what I'm
that's my complaint just on.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
The face of it. Though, before we take a break,
I'm interested what do you think would happen if it
came to be true? iPhones are thirty five hundred dollars.
Wouldn't people just not buy them? I mean I wouldn't
buy one.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
No, I'd hold on to mine, hoping that a few
years down the road everything had changed.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Ten months, But I think everybody would hold onto the
iPhone they got. They sell like six in the whole country. Right, Well,
you have.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
To remember that when you're talking about iPhones and the
chips and transistors and all the stuff he's talking about.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
You're talking about incredibly.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Powerful tech companies, your Magnificent seven and others, and they
have enormous influence and scads of money.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Those companies a lot of power.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, that would that feels a little
like the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
Something would have to give there.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I would be shocked if if anybody Donald Ja or
anybody else would run rough shot over Apple and Tim
Cook in America's tech sector, which is one of our
shining stars.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah, we got to take a break. Maybe I'll talk
about this later, but I was listened to an economic
podcast where they're having the discussion some of these tariffs
in some sectors are practically an embargo. I mean yeah,
like what I just said at the iPhone, that's like
an embargo no iPhones because nobody's gonna buy a thirty
five hundred dollars iPhone, and same way going to China
with some stuff. And embargoes are considered an active war.
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At what point have you pulled off an active war
if you just put an embargo on big, giant, major sectors.
M M, that's a that's a dicey one. We got
a lot more on the way if you have any
comment on that text line four one nine five KFTC.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Hi, I'm Katy Perry.
Speaker 9 (31:20):
Let's got a space Okay, before we get back to
that stupid, stupid story that happened, like right when we
came on the air today, Trump is currently in the
Oval Office, sitting with somebody but answering questions about Russian Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He said some interesting things. Oh my, yeah, we'll get
to in just a second. But Gail King, Katy Perry
and some other people went into space today.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I don't know how.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
They looked so perfect when they came out of that capsule.
I think we're gonna find out that a stylus on board,
and as soon as they landed, they took off their
helmets and like we got this text one small step
for perfect hair after being in space, one giant leap
for giant penis headed rockets.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
The wow, oh that was too direct.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
The rocket is like all rockets are phallic, but this,
this rocket looks like the most popular wand that they
sell on Amazon, speaking of Jeff Bezos for women whose
husbands don't satisfy them.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
But wow, too much in this so many ways.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
But this might be the clip of the year. I mean,
it's certainly in the running from Gail King talking about
Katy Perry. How would you describe it?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
It's very difficult because you're floating. But the best part
was when we got back in our seats after zero
g's Katie sang, what a wonderful world. She did that nice,
She said, what a wonderful I see Drees, Oh yes, yes, yes, oh.
Because we've been asking her to sing all the time
and she.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Wouldn't and she wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
And then because everybody said sing roars, sing fire, and
she said, it's not about me.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I wanted to talk about the world. Wow, you know,
is that nice?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
You got to ask her about that.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Wow, you're right. Every phrase deserves discussion. It's not about me.
I want to talk about the world as a bucksome
purveyor of pop music.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
You go ahead.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I feel like I could teach a college course on
that thirty second clip. But you have something, Katie.
Speaker 9 (33:15):
Just the way the reporter goes, oh, I bet you
all started crying, She's like, yes, yes we did.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm glad. There's a woman on a board too. Describe
your own astonishment at that clip.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Jumped out.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Right, Hey, look, I realized we're five miles above the
surface of the earth.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
But I'm out.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I've had a good run.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
This is it. You'll be killed. Yeah, I'm counting on it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
That's the why. Yes, you get it. That is amazing. Okay,
she did. I don't think I could hang out with you.
I don't think we could hang out and have dinner
or anything like that and could drive each other nuts
(34:05):
because your your reaction to Katie Perry singing, you don't.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Have to be enemies, but we'll never be friends. So goodbye, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
All right, So this is important before we wrap up
this hour. We do four hours every day. This has
been three hours. If you miss a segment or an hour,
you can get the podcast Ar'm Strong and Getty on demand.
So I think it was a fairly big deal Zelenski
being on sixty Minutes last night with their lead story
saying I'm not going along with the White House narrative
on this whole war that we started it. That was
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pretty direct. And the fact that Trump has blasted sixty
Minutes in multiple texts since last night and not criticized
that is not an accident. He's criticized endlessly Biden and
the Democrats for how they handled the war and how
it would never started and the war and the elect
was stolen if he had won the election he did
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win the election, and if he had been in the war.
So he's criticized Zelenski back in the day. He's criticizing Biden.
Still hasn't criticized Putin, and he just said in the
Oval Office, I'm not saying Putin's anybody's angel, but Putin
would have never mentioned Ukraine or started to war if
I had been president. So he's still not criticizing you
can he criticized him last week as I recalled, but
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moredcum
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Armstrong and Geddy