January 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 2 of A&G features...
- RFK Jr. hearing & Elizabeth Warren throwing battle axes in hearings
- Drunk bus driver
- Kash Patel hearing & going along with the left
- Valentines Day proposals & Tulsi Gabbard's hair
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty, I'm Strong
and Jatati and he Armstrong and Hetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
If confirmed, the former Independent White House contender would oversee
a one point seven trillion dollar budget, ninety thousand employees
and agencies including the FDA, CDC, NIH and Medicare and
Medicaid Services. Kennedy says his Make America Healthy Again pursuit
would prioritize nutrition and shift federal research away from infectious
disease towards chronic illness.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The first thing I've done every morning for the past
twenty years is to get on my knees and pray
to God that he would put me in a position
and the chronic disease epidemic interesting.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's RFK Junior is hearing arted yesterday and we're gonna
play with my lights and it continues today.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I don't want to take the fun out of this.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
But my feeling on the whole thing in general is
if he gets approved, and he most likely is, if
he does anything super crazy, there will be a revolt,
including among Republicans, and they'll have to get somebody new.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's what I suspect as well.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
He's not going to declare no vaccines for schools, and
everybody else say, I guess we just have to go
along with it. That's not going to happen, right right,
And we could well, I mean, his reign could well
lead to a debate on a number of issues and
we come out at a better place. I'm not a
fan of the guy, but some of the Harem Scaram talk.
I mean, for instance, here in clip thirty two, Michael,
(01:42):
this is Jake Tapper's fair and balanced to lead on
the story.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Kennedy Junior, who's been spreading lies about vaccines for decades,
pressed on his reign of error. Luckily nobody heard that
because nobody watches CNN.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, so I saw a club.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I should have had hands and grab it, but I
saw a pushback that RFK Junior had later in the day. Okay,
so here's three of my conspiracy theories that turned out
to be true. And he went through a number of
them that were things he had said that are now
adopted as true. That you could spread the COVID even
if you were vaxed. That was considered a conspiracy theory
(02:20):
for a long time. So do I think RFK Junior
has conspiracy theories that aren't true? Yes, he absolutely does.
But your own government, Jake Tapper, your side, spread all
kinds of stuff that was completely false, and they knew
it was false.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They weren't even just crackpots.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They were cynics who were saying the opposite of what
they knew to be true, and you gave him a
pass for it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So give me a.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Break because the people were too stupid to handle the truth.
The one aspect of JFK or RFK thing that I'm
troubled by, and I would like to discuss with somebody
who is an expert in this because I'm not, is
the fact that he believes one of the ways to
get real accountability out of the big pharma companies is
to sue the but Jesus out of them and to
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weaken the protections that they enjoy. There are a set
of laws that have to do with protecting the companies
for vaccine lawsuits, and then there's a federal fund to
pay damages. Because the perception was, or the decision was,
it's so important to vaccinate all kids against these awful
and some of them are just nightmares childhood diseases.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We can't ask.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The private companies to take on the ginormous risk of lawsuits,
and so the federal government is going to give them
a little protection and blah blah blahs, it's so important
to all of us.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, same with the research.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why would you spend all the money on research for
some vaccine for some new disease if you think you're
going to get the Bejesus suit out of you if
anything goes wrong, right, And.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They there is a point to that philosophy, there's absolutely
that's not crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
RFK is saying.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
The way we bring the big pharma folks to heal
is in the style of say, the giant lawsuits against
the Sackler family and the oxy Conton and the rest
of it is through lawsuits, and so they're over protected.
Well wrinkle number two. RFK Junior makes scads of money.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
On those losses. That's troubling. That's how he gets rich.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, so conflict of interest, much as they used to
say a long time ago, and it was annoying then
and annoying.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now anyway, does he needs scads of money?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He's a Kennedy don't they all just go home and
jump in a big pile of money like Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I have no idea another outdated reference. I have no
idea what the finances of the arn't of the average Kennedy.
I don't know if they got fifty million dollars in
the bank, or if they're you know, like your your
classic rock star who didn't actually get make much money
and tours constantly because they have to pay their bills.
I don't know. I don't know anyway. One shocking revelation
(04:58):
from the RFK hearings was right here. Michael is thirty four.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah. In terms of.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Addiction services, substance abuse services, I this is a priority
for me. It was a priority for me when I
was running for president. During my campaign, I was a
heroin addict for fourteen years. I've been forty two years
in recovery. I go to twelve seven meetings every day,
so I hear the stories every day.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Wow. A couple of interesting things there.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
He does twelve step meetings every day after forty some years,
which is interesting. And he was a heroin addict for
a decade plus, almost a decade and a half.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Presidential terms and half of the next.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Wow, man, if you got a loved one who's a
heroin addict for that long, you've given up on them
being alive at that point. Yeah, I gotta think you
think they're they're They're never coming back. I'm just going
to get a phone call someday.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
And over there on the other side of wash d
see Pete Hagsith is saying, oh, and I got drunk twice.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Oh no, we have a report here that you once
got drunk at a bowling alley at a work function.
Arth K Junior was a heroin addict for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Wow, that's that is interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And then there was quite the argument between Elizabeth warrenar
Just to go back to that before we move on.
There is something around that, for whatever reason, culturally that
if you're a if you're a drug addict, it's kind
of exotic and unique in a walk on the wild side.
But if you're very difficult, very difficult to handle jack
but all get But if.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You're drunk, it's just pathetic. You're a stupid loser. It
would be a drunk you're a stupid loser. Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
The heroin addict, on the other hand, it's highly addicted,
kind of cool when rock stars do it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And he had back pain and took pills. Blah blah
blah blah. I'm not that all that stuff isn't true,
but you know, if you're drunk, you're.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Just kind of a weak, dumb loser. All right, But
enough about my hobbies. Elizabeth Warren K.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I saw an AI thing yesterday.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
AI.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know it's so good and believable as her. Yes,
they call on her and she goes oh.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
In the AI phone. I don't think that happened. I'm
gonna have to that's not accurate. I saw a great
deal of hearing. She did not make an Indian war cry.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Let's let's get that dead out of the way, all right. Anyway,
she took a war hatchet in hand and went after
an r FK Junior.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
And I'm asking you to commit right now that you
will not take a financial stake and every one of
those lawsuits so that what you do as secretary will
also benefit you financially down the line.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I'll comply with all the ethical gods. That's not the
question you and I. You have said you're asking me.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You're asking me not to vaccine prose companies.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, you are, That's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Hell, look, no one should be fooled here. I tear
of ahhs. Robert Kennedy will have the power to undercut
vaccines and vaccine manufacturing across our country. And for all
of his talk about follow the science and his promise
that he won't interfere with those of us who want
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to vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the same.
Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and make millions
of dollars while.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He does it.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep cashing in
the Senator.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I support vaccines, will I support the childhood schedule?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I will do that. The only thing I want is
good science, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I also saw an AI thing where she used every
part of the buffalo there in the hearing room. Wow,
And I don't think that happened actually either a.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Bit of a distraction there, but to the substance of it,
I can't stand Elizabeth Warren. She's a liar and a
phony and a race baiter and the rest of it.
But there is a concern there. I'm doing this lawsuit
because it's the right thing. I get a referral fee,
and it's going to be paying me money.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Long into my old.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, let me read from Brit Hume, a Fox No
fan of Elizabeth Warren. The exchange devolved into a shouting match,
but Elizabeth Warren for once had a valid point and
asking Bobby K Junior to foreswear receiving money from the
trial law firm he's associated with. Her point was that
as HHS Secretary, he'd be in a position to influence
the outcome of lawsuits filed by that firm. Kennedy kept
saying she was demanding he not sued drug companies, but
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that was not.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What she was saying. According to Brit Hume of Fox.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Right, I would agree that's the way I read it
too again and trust me, it's not comfortable being in
agreement with Liz Warren.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And then she jumped on her pony side saddle and
wrote out of there in the ais I saw, okay,
well excellent. And then what of the onesies?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Jack?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Another notable exchange between the always colorful bemitten socialist Bernie
Sanders an RFK Junior.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What about the onesies?
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Now you're coming before this committee and you say you're
pro vaccine, just want to ask some questions. And yet
your organization is making money selling a child's product to
parents for twenty six bucks, which cast fundamental doubt on
the usefulness of vaccines.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Can you tell us now that you will, now that.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
You are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your
organization take these products off the market?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Senator, I have no power over that organization, not you've
heard of it.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Resigned from the board that was just.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
A few months ago. You founded that you certainly have
power you could make that. How you supportive of this?
I've had nothing to do with your supportive of these onesies?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I'm supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Are you supportive of these this clothing which is militantly
anti vaccine?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
I am supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, I want good science and I want to protect
But you will not tell.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
The organization you founded not to continue selling that product.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Thank you, Chim.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That clearly will be part of the standards. That will
clearly be part of the clips of the year at
the end of the year. Are you supportive of these onesies?
And I think it's funny that even Bernard Sanders at
it is vancedage, UH realized that sounds silly. So the
second time he said it, he changed He changed it too.
Are you supportive of these clothing items? Because me saying
are you supportive of these onesies sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
These onesies?
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Why are they all white? Everybody knows that baby will
spit up. They shouldn't be white. Do you support white onesies?
The onesies say, unvexed, unafraid or no vax, No problem?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Why onesies? Whose idea was this? How do you get
both legs in there?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I get one legging, then the other leg is squirmling
around and I'm kicking it in there. I remember doing
that in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
What the heck? Choice like wrestling an octopus? Anyway? Where
were we?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Ah r FK Junior. That's right, So we'll have to
see the way the Senate votes. There are aspects of
his act that troubled me a great deal. I got
to believe you could find somebody to advocate the things
he advocates who doesn't have those gigantic conflicts of interest.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But I don't know who that person is.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Though true, But like Elon, for whatever reason, you need
the lightning rod to get the conversation going. Somebody Elon
says stuff and we have the conversation that we wouldn't
if somebody else said it. And I think the same
thing with RK Jr. I don't like that it works
that way, but it seems to be true.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, I if certain of Trump's nominees had or will
get the job, I would be really worried. I think
it's a terrible mistake. With RFK Junior, I think, yeah,
I better keep an eye on this one. But let's
see how it goes. Jay.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I had a little thing I wanted to say about
the confirmation hearings, is just in general, but I'll do
it later because they're going on again today with several
other controversial nominees and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So hope you can stick around sport of all these onesiesty,
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Do it on.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Bus driver one apparently didn't talk UNTI last eight and
the students screaming in the background.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
We were scaring stop the bus stop, the bus stop
the bus.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I was scared because he didn't stop at any of
the first few stops, and I was scared that the
other kids weren't going to get to go home.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You were just like getting mad over little stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
He was getting mad over little stuff. That's the kids
in a nine one one call? Who called nine one one?
Did one of the kids called nine one one as
a school bus seventy two year old bus driver arrested
for driving drunk with the kids in the bus.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's yes, they called nine one one because the drunk
ass bus driver wouldn't stop at any of the stop.
That's a pretty old bus driver to start with. Ah,
and you're getting up there, I mean twenty seven two year.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Olds and can drive fine, but they getting pretty up
there in terms of reaction time and all that sort
of stuff. Uh, and drunk and so you just wouldn't
stop at the stops. You had to be he had
to be really drunk, ragging it to kids and the
rest of it. And just yeah, he wasn't just I'm
gonna have a quick one because I can't handle the
nan and.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
The kids today. He was hammered.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, reminds me of when I riad the school bus
every single day for uh, like my entire school career
both ways, and uh, we had a gladys of telling.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
The story from way back and what cars the harp cell,
thank you Gladys. Gladys went to school in a horse
drawn carriage, just like my dad.
Speaker 10 (14:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
One time we had a school bus driver, like for
one day, maybe two, and he was like Otto.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
From the Simpsons. I'm Otto, and I loved to get Blotto.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But there was this one like in a road and
he would hit it really fashioned. We'd all sit in
the back of the it's coming up and we'd all
moved to the back seat of course, no seatbelts, and
he sit in the back and he'd.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hit it and we'd all fly like three feet in
the air.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Wow. We thought it was hilarious. But he was the
only bus driver for a couple of days. I think
I wonder if he was drunk, he might have been well.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And that speaks to a certain attitude about life, doesn't it.
Doing that that you know, might not square with being
the classic school bus driver.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Man, the school bus was so like Lord of the
Flies though, And I don't actually know if I think
that is better for me or it's I don't know,
but it was definitely Lord of the Flies.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, you had you had to learn to navigate.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Lots of different situations because it was it could be
scary and uh and very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, towards the back of the bus and nobody cared.
That's just the way it was. I know.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Christopher Hitchins in his memoir he was talking about how
there was so much bullying and beatings from the teachers
and everything like that when he went to private school
as a kid in England, and it's sexual assault, sexual assault,
And in his book he says he thinks that society
was better when they had some of that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He hated it at the time.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know that I'm willing to go there, but
I can kind of see the point, can kind of
see where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, it's a grim assessment and a difficult conversation to have,
but if it leads to a further discussion of the
nature of raising kids and the way we raise them
and what makes what sort of childhood makes for a strong,
resilient adult.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm not pro rape, certainly no, and I.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Despise bullying, but it's a conversation worth having.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, it's pretty darmn interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Actually, we have some more stuff on the hearings, Tulsa
Gabbard being grilled and the guy who might run the
FBI being grilled today, and so we'll get to some
of that as it a folds throughout.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Cash Battel, as he's known among friends. Yeah, the whole
Hitchins thing. Sometimes a terrible idea is just one notch
off of a very very good idea. So we can't
be afraid to have these discussions Armstrong and Getty. My
colleagues have already asked your future boss, mister BONDI many
questions about this.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I think it's easy to see these attacks for what
they are. Guilt by association. Are you a follower or
promoter of q Andon? No, Senator.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
In fact, I have publicly, including in the interviews provided
to this committee, rejected outright QAnon baseless conspiracy theories or
any other baseless conspiracy theories. They must be addressed head
on with the truth, and I will continue to do that,
and I will always continue to support Americans who support
law enforcement, our military, and want to secure border.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's Cash Battel being grilled to by the senators. They're
advising consent role so he can run the FBI. Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That was a Republican asking that question, Chuck Grassley, So
he was asking the questions. So Cash Grassley, who went
to to elementary school with Abraham Lincoln and is so
old he didn't realize mister Bondie is clearly miss Bondie,
and she's good at being missed Bondie.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'd say yauser.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But Chuck Grassley, a Republican, was asking me that question
to give him the chance to get out the whole
I'm not quan on thing right off the bat as
opposed to a Democrat answering asking it where he'd say, ah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You caught me.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I was gonna try to keep that chicke of but
since you ask me, I gotta say yes, I am,
and I'm proud of it, you know, like you're gonna
catch somebody on that. But I was watching the hearing
a little bit and this cash Betel dude is a
brown person, and what's his background Indian or whatever it is?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Indian?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I was just thinking how if he was a Democrat,
the only thing we would need to be talking about
around this whole nomination would be it'd be the first
person of color to lead the FBI, and any criticism
of him, no matter how wacky he was on any issue,
any criticism would be Republicans who don't like, who are
othering him, who don't like the idea of brown people
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being in charge?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Would be the only thing one hundred percent correct. That's right,
And you know it's funny. Hadn't even occurred to me.
The hell do I care? If he's Indian American are
the agents?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It makes no difference to me at all.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
But if you were a Democrat, gosh that the Braezes
have changed on that.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
If you were a Democrat and controversial at all, like
cashpatel is, it would be you're racist. You just can't
handle brown people taking over. Here's all I need to
know about Cash Battel. And if I turn out to
be wrong, I will manfully admit it. Trey Gouty says
he would be a terrific choice. Yeah, and I respect
the hell out of Trey Gouty. That's pretty good, pretty
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good recommendation right there.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So a completely different topic, although related in that the
craft which has now been cut cut the crap of
the recent years of the Biden administration and the wolf
crowd running things included such nonsense as you know, if
somebody's tanner than me and somebody criticizes them, it's clearly racism.
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And then this, And I'm going to refer again to
a brilliant essay I mentioned the other day by Martin Gourrie.
He's writing in the Free Press, but he's talking about
the campaign against misinformation, disinformation, censorship, aggressive censorship during the
Biden administration. And he makes a point that I think
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is worth like etching writing down in ink, if not
etching into granite.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And he does so quite eloquently.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
He lists a bunch of questions that were asked during
the COVID thing when each.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And every one of the answers to them.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And I won't go through the list, but it had
to do with the vaccines and closing the schools and
the stuff we've just cause many times. And the only
acceptable answer to every single one of those questions was yes.
But the administration and by proxy the social media, insisted
that you say no, and you must say no, and
you will be punished if you don't. And he goes
into not only the Biden administration, but do you remember
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Jacinda Arderne, the rather attractive Prime Minister of New Zealand
during the pandemic. She was zealous about lockdowns and government policy.
She was like the Gretchen whitmer down under. But anyway,
as the essayist points out, she said out loud what
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Biden's puppeteers only whispered behind the scenes. She said, quote,
we will continue to be your single source of truth.
Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
And in the mattern manner of Ardern, the Biden administration
gave itself a divine attribute. Similarly, it was the single
source of truth and in its many error, as it proclaimed,
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were the misperceptions of a diluted public.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And the debate was wh at an end.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Disgracefully, most of the NEWSVDA media went along with it.
They defended, they parroted. Academia went along, as did most corporations.
Many mainstream churches went along, placing a secular word of
a doddering president above their own received wisdom. The open
society was closed for repairs until further notice. And here's
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the part that needs to be etched into granite. The
greatest danger in a closed system that shuts off debate
is an error, but the impossibility of correcting error, of
ever arriving at the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And it goes into a fair amount of detail.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But the idea is we can absolutely deal with people
who are wrong or have bad ideas existed. We've been
dealing with that since the dawn of mans. They had
no starts, like the Almighty had no star. But it
will know no end people being wrong or misguided. But
the one thing we can't take is restricting people from
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saying out loud I think you're wrong. That's the one
sin we must never ever commit, no matter how good
the excuse is.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Well, having lived through it, which I didn't think I
ever would in my life, but having lived through it,
it was something to see how quickly it it could
go away, like really quickly, and how quickly people went
along with it. Oh, yeah, that's the way it goes away.
You have enough people who are out of being frightened.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So I'm super in Just gonna.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Say it's the desire for safety, which is incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And what is my side saying?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, So I'm super into civilizations falling apart through history.
It's just something I'm really interested in. And I because
I think there's a chance I'm living through it or
may live through it in my lifetime, and I don't know,
I just kind of want to have a heads up
but like I'm currently reading this book becas I've mention
many times about France eighteen seventy, when they're many times
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in France their civilization has falled apart, fallen apart, where
that just they go nutso and it's a lot like
what we did.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
During COVID, where.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You pick a side and your side can do no
wrong and you're completely immune to logic for a while,
and all kinds of things go out the window, and
it's just it's something to see that it has happened
so many times throughout history. That's why dudes are into
the fall of the Roman Republic, like how how does
something that was working go away?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And it's just troublingly easy.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
As I've said many times, it was almost worth it
to live through it. Yeah, to see I mean, how
right mister Merrill who's writing this, or Thomas Jefferson was,
for instance, I'm about to quote Jefferson because Merril writes
about how in seventeen ninety eight, and Jack you've pointed
out and it's incredibly troubling and almost bitterly amusing because
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it shows how human beings.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Are, the very founding generation.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Themselves past the Sedition Act President John Adams arm twisted
Congress into enacting this Edition Act, which is essentially through
citizens in jail for slandering the federal government, which is
to say bad mouthing him or you know, criticizing him.
Now Adams won or two years later in eighteen hundred,
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and this is how he put it in his first
inaugural address. Quote, if there be any among us who
would wish to dissolve this union or to change its
republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the
safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated, where
reason is left free to combat it. The idea, it's
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a restatement of one of his great guiding principles that
I'd much rather attend to the problems of too much
liberty than too little.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah well, yeah, I guess that proves a point right there.
And if the founding generation could get that off track
that fast with free speech, then you can't blame the
current times because it's just it's it's easy to fall for.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Well, in this circumstance, you can't have free speech is
always the thing. We've got a unique circumstance COVID. You know, uh,
we're just putting together the country and we got you know,
we got to worry about to England and France and everybody.
So now is not a time for people saying whatever
they want. There's always some reason why now is a
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specifically unique time.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Just to join us.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Once you in the army of the lovers of liberty
in that whenever an excuse is given for censorship because
they're wrong or misguided or dangerous, the reply is, are
we free to say that that they're wrong and misguided
and dangerous?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, well then we're good, We're fine.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah, reading this stuff about France or lots of different places,
popularism and mob ment is so frightening and unwieldy and
just completely unpredictable and happens out of nowhere, and once
it gets going, stopping it is incredibly hard. Yeah, the
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whole populism thing should be treated with kid gloves.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah.
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It is a human impulse that is among our more
dangerous ones. It causes us to band together in societies
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Speaker 4 (28:47):
Cash Pattel just said something really really interesting around the
J six pardonings and Telsea Gabbart is being grilled about
being the person who runs well the whole intelligence operation,
and then just hearings in general. I got something I
heard the other day I thought was really interesting and
all the stuff. I hope you can stick around Armstrong
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and Getty.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Well, guys, Valentine's Day is just around the corner.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I saw an ad today that really caught my eye.
Take a look at this after.
Speaker 11 (29:15):
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by giving her something more valuable than all the diamonds
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she deserves.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
It, very expensive eggs.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I think you am I wrong, Katie. I think proposing
on Valentine's Day, most women would go you no.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeh, don't do it, don't do it? Not cool.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, New Year's Eve, Valentine's for whatever reason, those are
off limits.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, I'm troubled by the performative nature of everything in
the modern world. You've got to have a giant performative engagement.
You've got to have a giant performative wedding. Well, somebody's
got to have their phone out and you have to
post it. Certainly, Well, you've got to have a giant
performative gender reveal. You've got to have a giant performative
here's me at the art museum, whatever happened to go
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and place us and doing stuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I'm making a TV production of it now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Valentine Day this year is on a Friday, So forget
going out to eat. I remember one time, many many
years ago, only once in my life, that I try
to go out to eat.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
On Valentine's Day, and it was awful, just awful.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I mean, if you like standing in a shoulder to
shoulder lobby of whatever restaurant for a half an hour
before you even get to your reservation in a very
crowded restaurant, go ahead. But oh, it's on a Friday
night this year. But here's the good news. Calendar wise,
Groundhog Day is Sunday. We don't have to deal with it.
This year, we missed out on Groundhog Day. Thank god,
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America's stupidest day, clearly.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Boy, big worry of mine.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, every year we get a the CBS Early Show,
they're gonna have the The Today Show, They're gonna be
there in punk Satani, and they're gonna have the damn Rodent.
Just please, we're all grown ups there, all right, We're
not six years old exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You're taking your weather forecast from a rodent? What else
are you doing? Eating your own fingernails?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I got a question that we're going to talk about
the hearings. Our three have some serious things to say
about that. Cash Ptel just said, and this is a
pretty big deal. He's the guy up for a FBI
director that a lot of people think it way too trumpy,
and he's just he's going to do Trump's bidding and
retribution and jail the people who don't like Trump and
that sort of thing. Cash Ptel said about the j
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six pardon commutations. I do not agree with the commutation
of any sentence of anyone who committed violence against law
enforcement on January seven, breaking with his bulls. That's a
pretty big break. That's some independence right there. Yeah, I'd
say so, And he's right. Tulsea Gabbard, attractive Hawaiian woman
(32:13):
wants to be the d and I Director of National Intelligence. Uh,
she's wearing her white outfit that she's kind of famous for.
She's always got that gray streak.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
In her hair.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And I don't know, maybe you know this, Katie, I
don't know, is that a is that an? Is she
just born that way where she's got dark hair and
but one streak of gray? Does she die it that way?
Because I know plenty of women who do the one
blue one. You know, he had a red streak or
a blue streak or whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
For the record, we're talking about the Director of National Intelligence,
And this is Jack's question.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Correct. Yeah, I don't know. Is an optional? I don't
know if she was. I know that that is a
condition people are born with. But the gray hair thing.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Is really in right now, the women letting it go gray,
letting it go gray, or dying at gray before it
goes gray.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's it. Oh yeah, friend of mine just went gray
or silver as she called it, at what age you mean? Right? Yes,
she's howled thirty nine or forty thirty nine, going early gray. Okay,
maybe that'll become a thing. She spotted a few and said,
I'm going to embrace it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You know, when I run into a woman who's decided
to fully embrace the gray like men generally do, am
I shocked.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But you don't see that very often.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
But Tulsa's just goes with the streak like a skunk stripe.
And I just wondered if that's justly or is that
now you think it's.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
That's not the most flattering way to describe it. Yeah,
I suspect that that's just the way her hair grows.
I'm a little more concerned about her affection for the
Kremlin and her whack adodal half a cult spiritual beliefs
in their pyramid schemes, and her affection for Edward Snowden,
who did a hell of a lot more than simply
exposed some of the NSA's sins. On the other hand,
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her hair color is fascinating and worthy of inquiry.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yes, Katie, so she's actually commented on it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I started to gray in that spot during my first
deployment to Iraq, so I've chosen to keep it as
a daily reminder of the terrible.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Cost of war.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Awesome answer. That's a cool answer, That is very cool.
I still think she's a crackpot.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Okay, well, I'll tell you what Joe is doing, because
she said in her opening statement before I close, I
want to warn the American people watching at home, you
will hear lies and smears like you just said from
Joe Getty that challenge my loyalty and love of our country.
Those who oppose my nomination imply I'm loyal to something
or someone other than.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
God, said the trader.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So Joe's part of the smear lizing, I guess said
she's claiming.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
As I said in some of the fever pitch run
up to the hearings during the transition period.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm glad they have hearings. I got an idea.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
How about we have the Senate advice and consent on
the president's appointees and we'll take a good, solid look
at all this stuff. I'm very content with this process.
And if she gets through it and all the Republicans
say for a job this critical, If all the Republicans say,
you know what, no, it seems that she's a good gal,
and let's give her.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The job, man, all right with?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I want to talk about the whole process because I
heard a good podcast about it the other day, whether
it's outlived its uselessness. You know, most of our nation's history,
we didn't do this, even though it's in the constitution,
we didn't do it this way, at least partially because
there were no TV cameras. There is no benefit to
grand standing alone in a room like there is now.
But senators would do a little research on their own
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and then and they you know, they would, they would
they they would vote one way or another, or write
a letter asking a question or whatever. That'd be their
advice and consent. Now we do this show, and there's
only been one time, like in the last forty years
that anything has ever come out of one of these
hearings that anybody thought actually made a difference in terms
of how people were already going to vote. See, you
gotta wonder if it's actually doing anything. But the process
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does lead to all the media stuff that happens leading
up to it, and a number of people have been
out of the nomination by the media scrutiny before the hearing.
So maybe that's the real advice and consents going on.
Digging into Matt Gates before he even gets to the hearing,
and he, you know, he pulls his name.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Absolutely, it reminds me of you know, well, I don't
have time to explain the metaphor, but I think it's very,
very useful.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
If confirmed, the former Independent White House contender would oversee
a one point seven trillion dollar budget, ninety thousand employees
and agencies including the FDA, CDC, NIH and Medicare and
Medicaid Services. Kennedy says his Make America Healthy Again pursuit
would prioritize nutrition and shift federal research away from infectious
disease towards chronic illness.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The first thing I've done every morning for the past
twenty years is to get on my knees and pray
to God that he would put me in a position
and the chronic disease epidemic interesting.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
That's RFK Junior is hearing arted yesterday and we're gonna
play with my lights and it continues today.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I don't want to take the fun out of this.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
But my feeling on the whole thing in general is
if he gets approved, and he most likely is, if
he does anything super crazy, there will be a revolt,
including among Republicans, and they'll have to get somebody new.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
That's what I suspect as well.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
He's not going to declare no vaccines for schools, and
everybody else say, I guess we just have to go
along with it. That's not going to happen, right right,
And we could well, I mean, his reign could well
lead to a debate on a number of issues and
we come out at a better place. I'm not a
fan of the guy, but some of the Harem Scaram talk.
I mean, for instance, here in clip thirty two, Michael,
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this is Jake Tapper's fair and balanced to lead on
the story.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Kennedy Junior, who's been spreading lies about vaccines for decades,
pressed on his reign of error. Luckily nobody heard that
because nobody watches CNN.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, so I saw a club.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I should have had hands and grab it, but I
saw a pushback that RFK Junior had later in the day. Okay,
so here's three of my conspiracy theories that turned out
to be true. And he went through a number of
them that were things he had said that are now
adopted as true. That you could spread the COVID even
if you were vaxed. That was considered a conspiracy theory
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for a long time. So do I think RFK Junior
has conspiracy theories that aren't true? Yes, he absolutely does.
But your own government, Jake Tapper, your side, spread all
kinds of stuff that was completely false, and they knew
it was false.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
They weren't even just crackpots.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
They were cynics who were saying the opposite of what
they knew to be true, and you gave him a
pass for it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So give me a.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Break because the people were too stupid to handle the truth.
The one aspect of JFK or RFK thing that I'm
troubled by, and I would like to discuss with somebody
who is an expert in this because I'm not, is
the fact that he believes one of the ways to
get real accountability out of the big pharma companies is
to sue the but Jesus out of them and to
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weaken the protections that they enjoy. There are a set
of laws that have to do with protecting the companies
for vaccine lawsuits, and then there's a federal fund to
pay damages. Because the perception was, or the decision was,
it's so important to vaccinate all kids against these awful
and some of them are just nightmares childhood diseases.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
We can't ask.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
The private companies to take on the ginormous risk of lawsuits,
and so the federal government is going to give them
a little protection and blah blah blahs, it's so important
to all of us.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, same with the research.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why would you spend all the money on research for
some vaccine for some new disease if you think you're
going to get the Bejesus suit out of you if
anything goes wrong, right, And.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
They there is a point to that philosophy, there's absolutely
that's not crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
RFK is saying.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
The way we bring the big pharma folks to heal
is in the style of say, the giant lawsuits against
the Sackler family and the oxy Conton and the rest
of it is through lawsuits, and so they're over protected.
Well wrinkle number two. RFK Junior makes scads of money.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
On those losses. That's troubling. That's how he gets rich.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, so conflict of interest, much as they used to
say a long time ago, and it was annoying then
and annoying.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Now anyway, does he needs scads of money?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He's a Kennedy don't they all just go home and
jump in a big pile of money like Scrooge McDuck.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I have no idea another outdated reference. I have no
idea what the finances of the arn't of the average Kennedy.
I don't know if they got fifty million dollars in
the bank, or if they're you know, like your your
classic rock star who didn't actually get make much money
and tours constantly because they have to pay their bills.
I don't know. I don't know anyway. One shocking revelation
(04:58):
from the RFK hearings was right here. Michael is thirty four.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah. In terms of.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Addiction services, substance abuse services, I this is a priority
for me. It was a priority for me when I
was running for president. During my campaign, I was a
heroin addict for fourteen years. I've been forty two years
in recovery. I go to twelve seven meetings every day,
so I hear the stories every day.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Wow. A couple of interesting things there.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
He does twelve step meetings every day after forty some years,
which is interesting. And he was a heroin addict for
a decade plus, almost a decade and a half.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Presidential terms and half of the next.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Wow, man, if you got a loved one who's a
heroin addict for that long, you've given up on them
being alive at that point. Yeah, I gotta think you
think they're they're They're never coming back. I'm just going
to get a phone call someday.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
And over there on the other side of wash d
see Pete Hagsith is saying, oh, and I got drunk twice.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Oh no, we have a report here that you once
got drunk at a bowling alley at a work function.
Arth K Junior was a heroin addict for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Wow, that's that is interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And then there was quite the argument between Elizabeth warrenar
Just to go back to that before we move on.
There is something around that, for whatever reason, culturally that
if you're a if you're a drug addict, it's kind
of exotic and unique in a walk on the wild side.
But if you're very difficult, very difficult to handle jack
but all get But if.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You're drunk, it's just pathetic. You're a stupid loser. It
would be a drunk you're a stupid loser. Yes.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
The heroin addict, on the other hand, it's highly addicted,
kind of cool when rock stars do it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And he had back pain and took pills. Blah blah
blah blah. I'm not that all that stuff isn't true,
but you know, if you're drunk, you're.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Just kind of a weak, dumb loser. All right, But
enough about my hobbies. Elizabeth Warren K.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
I saw an AI thing yesterday.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
AI.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know it's so good and believable as her. Yes,
they call on her and she goes oh.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
In the AI phone. I don't think that happened. I'm
gonna have to that's not accurate. I saw a great
deal of hearing. She did not make an Indian war cry.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Let's let's get that dead out of the way, all right. Anyway,
she took a war hatchet in hand and went after
an r FK Junior.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
And I'm asking you to commit right now that you
will not take a financial stake and every one of
those lawsuits so that what you do as secretary will
also benefit you financially down the line.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I'll comply with all the ethical gods. That's not the
question you and I. You have said you're asking me.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You're asking me not to vaccine prose companies.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, you are, That's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Hell, look, no one should be fooled here. I tear
of ahhs. Robert Kennedy will have the power to undercut
vaccines and vaccine manufacturing across our country. And for all
of his talk about follow the science and his promise
that he won't interfere with those of us who want
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to vaccinate his kids, the bottom line is the same.
Kennedy can kill off access to vaccines and make millions
of dollars while.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
He does it.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Kids might die, but Robert Kennedy can keep cashing in
the Senator.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I support vaccines, will I support the childhood schedule?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
I will do that. The only thing I want is
good science, and that's it.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I also saw an AI thing where she used every
part of the buffalo there in the hearing room. Wow,
And I don't think that happened actually either a.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Bit of a distraction there, but to the substance of it,
I can't stand Elizabeth Warren. She's a liar and a
phony and a race baiter and the rest of it.
But there is a concern there. I'm doing this lawsuit
because it's the right thing. I get a referral fee,
and it's going to be paying me money.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Long into my old.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well, let me read from Brit Hume, a Fox No
fan of Elizabeth Warren. The exchange devolved into a shouting match,
but Elizabeth Warren for once had a valid point and
asking Bobby K Junior to foreswear receiving money from the
trial law firm he's associated with. Her point was that
as HHS Secretary, he'd be in a position to influence
the outcome of lawsuits filed by that firm. Kennedy kept
saying she was demanding he not sued drug companies, but
(09:43):
that was not.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
What she was saying. According to Brit Hume of Fox.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Right, I would agree that's the way I read it
too again and trust me, it's not comfortable being in
agreement with Liz Warren.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And then she jumped on her pony side saddle and
wrote out of there in the ais I saw, okay,
well excellent. And then what of the onesies?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Jack?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Another notable exchange between the always colorful bemitten socialist Bernie
Sanders an RFK Junior.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
What about the onesies?
Speaker 8 (10:16):
Now you're coming before this committee and you say you're
pro vaccine, just want to ask some questions. And yet
your organization is making money selling a child's product to
parents for twenty six bucks, which cast fundamental doubt on
the usefulness of vaccines.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Can you tell us now that you will, now that.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
You are pro vaccine, that you're going to have your
organization take these products off the market?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Senator, I have no power over that organization, not you've
heard of it.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Resigned from the board that was just.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
A few months ago. You founded that you certainly have
power you could make that. How you supportive of this?
I've had nothing to do with your supportive of these onesies?
Speaker 6 (11:00):
I'm supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 8 (11:02):
Are you supportive of these this clothing which is militantly
anti vaccine?
Speaker 6 (11:07):
I am supportive of vaccines.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, I want good science and I want to protect
But you will not tell.
Speaker 8 (11:14):
The organization you founded not to continue selling that product.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Thank you, Chim.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
That clearly will be part of the standards. That will
clearly be part of the clips of the year at
the end of the year. Are you supportive of these onesies?
And I think it's funny that even Bernard Sanders at
it is vancedage, UH realized that sounds silly. So the
second time he said it, he changed He changed it too.
Are you supportive of these clothing items? Because me saying
are you supportive of these onesies sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
These onesies?
Speaker 9 (11:44):
Why are they all white? Everybody knows that baby will
spit up. They shouldn't be white. Do you support white onesies?
The onesies say, unvexed, unafraid or no vax, No problem?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Why onesies? Whose idea was this? How do you get
both legs in there?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
I get one legging, then the other leg is squirmling
around and I'm kicking it in there. I remember doing
that in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
What the heck? Choice like wrestling an octopus? Anyway? Where
were we?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Ah r FK Junior. That's right, So we'll have to
see the way the Senate votes. There are aspects of
his act that troubled me a great deal. I got
to believe you could find somebody to advocate the things
he advocates who doesn't have those gigantic conflicts of interest.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
But I don't know who that person is.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Though true, But like Elon, for whatever reason, you need
the lightning rod to get the conversation going. Somebody Elon
says stuff and we have the conversation that we wouldn't
if somebody else said it. And I think the same
thing with RK Jr. I don't like that it works
that way, but it seems to be true.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, I if certain of Trump's nominees had or will
get the job, I would be really worried. I think
it's a terrible mistake. With RFK Junior, I think, yeah,
I better keep an eye on this one. But let's
see how it goes. Jay.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I had a little thing I wanted to say about
the confirmation hearings, is just in general, but I'll do
it later because they're going on again today with several
other controversial nominees and a whole bunch of other stuff.
So hope you can stick around sport of all these onesiesty,
I didn't.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Do it on.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Bus driver one apparently didn't talk UNTI last eight and
the students screaming in the background.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
We were scaring stop the bus stop, the bus stop
the bus.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
I was scared because he didn't stop at any of
the first few stops, and I was scared that the
other kids weren't going to get to go home.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
You were just like getting mad over little stuff.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
He was getting mad over little stuff. That's the kids
in a nine one one call? Who called nine one one?
Did one of the kids called nine one one as
a school bus seventy two year old bus driver arrested
for driving drunk with the kids in the bus.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
That's yes, they called nine one one because the drunk
ass bus driver wouldn't stop at any of the stop.
That's a pretty old bus driver to start with. Ah,
and you're getting up there, I mean twenty seven two year.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Olds and can drive fine, but they getting pretty up
there in terms of reaction time and all that sort
of stuff. Uh, and drunk and so you just wouldn't
stop at the stops. You had to be he had
to be really drunk, ragging it to kids and the
rest of it. And just yeah, he wasn't just I'm
gonna have a quick one because I can't handle the
nan and.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
The kids today. He was hammered.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, reminds me of when I riad the school bus
every single day for uh, like my entire school career
both ways, and uh, we had a gladys of telling.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
The story from way back and what cars the harp cell,
thank you Gladys. Gladys went to school in a horse
drawn carriage, just like my dad.
Speaker 10 (14:47):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
One time we had a school bus driver, like for
one day, maybe two, and he was like Otto.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
From the Simpsons. I'm Otto, and I loved to get Blotto.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
But there was this one like in a road and
he would hit it really fashioned. We'd all sit in
the back of the it's coming up and we'd all
moved to the back seat of course, no seatbelts, and
he sit in the back and he'd.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Hit it and we'd all fly like three feet in
the air.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Wow. We thought it was hilarious. But he was the
only bus driver for a couple of days. I think
I wonder if he was drunk, he might have been well.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And that speaks to a certain attitude about life, doesn't it.
Doing that that you know, might not square with being
the classic school bus driver.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Man, the school bus was so like Lord of the
Flies though, And I don't actually know if I think
that is better for me or it's I don't know,
but it was definitely Lord of the Flies.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I mean, you had you had to learn to navigate.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Lots of different situations because it was it could be
scary and uh and very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, towards the back of the bus and nobody cared.
That's just the way it was. I know.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Christopher Hitchins in his memoir he was talking about how
there was so much bullying and beatings from the teachers
and everything like that when he went to private school
as a kid in England, and it's sexual assault, sexual assault,
And in his book he says he thinks that society
was better when they had some of that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
He hated it at the time.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
I don't know that I'm willing to go there, but
I can kind of see the point, can kind of
see where you're going with that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah, it's a grim assessment and a difficult conversation to have,
but if it leads to a further discussion of the
nature of raising kids and the way we raise them
and what makes what sort of childhood makes for a strong,
resilient adult.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I'm not pro rape, certainly no, and I.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Despise bullying, but it's a conversation worth having.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, it's pretty darmn interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Actually, we have some more stuff on the hearings, Tulsa
Gabbard being grilled and the guy who might run the
FBI being grilled today, and so we'll get to some
of that as it a folds throughout.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Cash Battel, as he's known among friends. Yeah, the whole
Hitchins thing. Sometimes a terrible idea is just one notch
off of a very very good idea. So we can't
be afraid to have these discussions Armstrong and Getty. My
colleagues have already asked your future boss, mister BONDI many
questions about this.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
I think it's easy to see these attacks for what
they are. Guilt by association. Are you a follower or
promoter of q Andon? No, Senator.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
In fact, I have publicly, including in the interviews provided
to this committee, rejected outright QAnon baseless conspiracy theories or
any other baseless conspiracy theories. They must be addressed head
on with the truth, and I will continue to do that,
and I will always continue to support Americans who support
law enforcement, our military, and want to secure border.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's Cash Battel being grilled to by the senators. They're
advising consent role so he can run the FBI. Uh.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
That was a Republican asking that question, Chuck Grassley, So
he was asking the questions. So Cash Grassley, who went
to to elementary school with Abraham Lincoln and is so
old he didn't realize mister Bondie is clearly miss Bondie,
and she's good at being missed Bondie.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'd say yauser.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
But Chuck Grassley, a Republican, was asking me that question
to give him the chance to get out the whole
I'm not quan on thing right off the bat as
opposed to a Democrat answering asking it where he'd say, ah.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You caught me.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I was gonna try to keep that chicke of but
since you ask me, I gotta say yes, I am,
and I'm proud of it, you know, like you're gonna
catch somebody on that. But I was watching the hearing
a little bit and this cash Betel dude is a
brown person, and what's his background Indian or whatever it is?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Indian?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
And I was just thinking how if he was a Democrat,
the only thing we would need to be talking about
around this whole nomination would be it'd be the first
person of color to lead the FBI, and any criticism
of him, no matter how wacky he was on any issue,
any criticism would be Republicans who don't like, who are
othering him, who don't like the idea of brown people
(19:14):
being in charge?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Would be the only thing one hundred percent correct. That's right,
And you know it's funny. Hadn't even occurred to me.
The hell do I care? If he's Indian American are
the agents?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It makes no difference to me at all.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
But if you were a Democrat, gosh that the Braezes
have changed on that.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
If you were a Democrat and controversial at all, like
cashpatel is, it would be you're racist. You just can't
handle brown people taking over. Here's all I need to
know about Cash Battel. And if I turn out to
be wrong, I will manfully admit it. Trey Gouty says
he would be a terrific choice. Yeah, and I respect
the hell out of Trey Gouty. That's pretty good, pretty
(19:51):
good recommendation right there.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
So a completely different topic, although related in that the
craft which has now been cut cut the crap of
the recent years of the Biden administration and the wolf
crowd running things included such nonsense as you know, if
somebody's tanner than me and somebody criticizes them, it's clearly racism.
(20:16):
And then this, And I'm going to refer again to
a brilliant essay I mentioned the other day by Martin Gourrie.
He's writing in the Free Press, but he's talking about
the campaign against misinformation, disinformation, censorship, aggressive censorship during the
Biden administration. And he makes a point that I think
(20:36):
is worth like etching writing down in ink, if not
etching into granite.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And he does so quite eloquently.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
He lists a bunch of questions that were asked during
the COVID thing when each.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And every one of the answers to them.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
And I won't go through the list, but it had
to do with the vaccines and closing the schools and
the stuff we've just cause many times. And the only
acceptable answer to every single one of those questions was yes.
But the administration and by proxy the social media, insisted
that you say no, and you must say no, and
you will be punished if you don't. And he goes
into not only the Biden administration, but do you remember
(21:17):
Jacinda Arderne, the rather attractive Prime Minister of New Zealand
during the pandemic. She was zealous about lockdowns and government policy.
She was like the Gretchen whitmer down under. But anyway,
as the essayist points out, she said out loud what
(21:40):
Biden's puppeteers only whispered behind the scenes. She said, quote,
we will continue to be your single source of truth.
Unless you hear it from us, it is not the truth.
And in the mattern manner of Ardern, the Biden administration
gave itself a divine attribute. Similarly, it was the single
source of truth and in its many error, as it proclaimed,
(22:01):
were the misperceptions of a diluted public.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And the debate was wh at an end.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Disgracefully, most of the NEWSVDA media went along with it.
They defended, they parroted. Academia went along, as did most corporations.
Many mainstream churches went along, placing a secular word of
a doddering president above their own received wisdom. The open
society was closed for repairs until further notice. And here's
(22:27):
the part that needs to be etched into granite. The
greatest danger in a closed system that shuts off debate
is an error, but the impossibility of correcting error, of
ever arriving at the truth.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And it goes into a fair amount of detail.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
But the idea is we can absolutely deal with people
who are wrong or have bad ideas existed. We've been
dealing with that since the dawn of mans. They had
no starts, like the Almighty had no star. But it
will know no end people being wrong or misguided. But
the one thing we can't take is restricting people from
(23:09):
saying out loud I think you're wrong. That's the one
sin we must never ever commit, no matter how good
the excuse is.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Well, having lived through it, which I didn't think I
ever would in my life, but having lived through it,
it was something to see how quickly it it could
go away, like really quickly, and how quickly people went
along with it. Oh, yeah, that's the way it goes away.
You have enough people who are out of being frightened.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
So I'm super in Just gonna.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Say it's the desire for safety, which is incredibly powerful.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And what is my side saying?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, So I'm super into civilizations falling apart through history.
It's just something I'm really interested in. And I because
I think there's a chance I'm living through it or
may live through it in my lifetime, and I don't know,
I just kind of want to have a heads up
but like I'm currently reading this book becas I've mention
many times about France eighteen seventy, when they're many times
(24:03):
in France their civilization has falled apart, fallen apart, where
that just they go nutso and it's a lot like
what we did.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
During COVID, where.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You pick a side and your side can do no
wrong and you're completely immune to logic for a while,
and all kinds of things go out the window, and
it's just it's something to see that it has happened
so many times throughout history. That's why dudes are into
the fall of the Roman Republic, like how how does
something that was working go away?
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And it's just troublingly easy.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
As I've said many times, it was almost worth it
to live through it. Yeah, to see I mean, how
right mister Merrill who's writing this, or Thomas Jefferson was,
for instance, I'm about to quote Jefferson because Merril writes
about how in seventeen ninety eight, and Jack you've pointed
out and it's incredibly troubling and almost bitterly amusing because
(25:00):
it shows how human beings.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Are, the very founding generation.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Themselves past the Sedition Act President John Adams arm twisted
Congress into enacting this Edition Act, which is essentially through
citizens in jail for slandering the federal government, which is
to say bad mouthing him or you know, criticizing him.
Now Adams won or two years later in eighteen hundred,
(25:27):
and this is how he put it in his first
inaugural address. Quote, if there be any among us who
would wish to dissolve this union or to change its
republican form, let them stand undisturbed as monuments of the
safety with which error of opinion may be tolerated, where
reason is left free to combat it. The idea, it's
(25:48):
a restatement of one of his great guiding principles that
I'd much rather attend to the problems of too much
liberty than too little.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah well, yeah, I guess that proves a point right there.
And if the founding generation could get that off track
that fast with free speech, then you can't blame the
current times because it's just it's it's easy to fall for.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Well, in this circumstance, you can't have free speech is
always the thing. We've got a unique circumstance COVID. You know, uh,
we're just putting together the country and we got you know,
we got to worry about to England and France and everybody.
So now is not a time for people saying whatever
they want. There's always some reason why now is a
(26:31):
specifically unique time.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Just to join us.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Once you in the army of the lovers of liberty
in that whenever an excuse is given for censorship because
they're wrong or misguided or dangerous, the reply is, are
we free to say that that they're wrong and misguided
and dangerous?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yes, well then we're good, We're fine.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Yeah, reading this stuff about France or lots of different places,
popularism and mob ment is so frightening and unwieldy and
just completely unpredictable and happens out of nowhere, and once
it gets going, stopping it is incredibly hard. Yeah, the
(27:15):
whole populism thing should be treated with kid gloves.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah.
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It is a human impulse that is among our more
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Speaker 4 (28:47):
Cash Pattel just said something really really interesting around the
J six pardonings and Telsea Gabbart is being grilled about
being the person who runs well the whole intelligence operation,
and then just hearings in general. I got something I
heard the other day I thought was really interesting and
all the stuff. I hope you can stick around Armstrong
(29:07):
and Getty.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Well, guys, Valentine's Day is just around the corner.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I saw an ad today that really caught my eye.
Take a look at this after.
Speaker 11 (29:15):
This Valentine's Day, if you're planning to ask her that
very special question, make sure she knows you really care
by giving her something more valuable than all the diamonds
in the world, a single egg speckled farm's best because
she deserves.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
It, very expensive eggs.
Speaker 6 (29:38):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
I think you am I wrong, Katie. I think proposing
on Valentine's Day, most women would go you no.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeh, don't do it, don't do it? Not cool.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, New Year's Eve, Valentine's for whatever reason, those are
off limits.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, I'm troubled by the performative nature of everything in
the modern world. You've got to have a giant performative engagement.
You've got to have a giant performative wedding. Well, somebody's
got to have their phone out and you have to
post it. Certainly, Well, you've got to have a giant
performative gender reveal. You've got to have a giant performative
here's me at the art museum, whatever happened to go
(30:23):
and place us and doing stuff exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I'm making a TV production of it now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Valentine Day this year is on a Friday, So forget
going out to eat. I remember one time, many many
years ago, only once in my life, that I try
to go out to eat.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
On Valentine's Day, and it was awful, just awful.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
I mean, if you like standing in a shoulder to
shoulder lobby of whatever restaurant for a half an hour
before you even get to your reservation in a very
crowded restaurant, go ahead. But oh, it's on a Friday
night this year. But here's the good news. Calendar wise,
Groundhog Day is Sunday. We don't have to deal with it.
This year, we missed out on Groundhog Day. Thank god,
(31:04):
America's stupidest day, clearly.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Boy, big worry of mine.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Well, every year we get a the CBS Early Show,
they're gonna have the The Today Show, They're gonna be
there in punk Satani, and they're gonna have the damn Rodent.
Just please, we're all grown ups there, all right, We're
not six years old exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
You're taking your weather forecast from a rodent? What else
are you doing? Eating your own fingernails?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I got a question that we're going to talk about
the hearings. Our three have some serious things to say
about that. Cash Ptel just said, and this is a
pretty big deal. He's the guy up for a FBI
director that a lot of people think it way too trumpy,
and he's just he's going to do Trump's bidding and
retribution and jail the people who don't like Trump and
that sort of thing. Cash Ptel said about the j
(31:53):
six pardon commutations. I do not agree with the commutation
of any sentence of anyone who committed violence against law
enforcement on January seven, breaking with his bulls. That's a
pretty big break. That's some independence right there. Yeah, I'd
say so, And he's right. Tulsea Gabbard, attractive Hawaiian woman
(32:13):
wants to be the d and I Director of National Intelligence. Uh,
she's wearing her white outfit that she's kind of famous for.
She's always got that gray streak.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
In her hair.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And I don't know, maybe you know this, Katie, I
don't know, is that a is that an? Is she
just born that way where she's got dark hair and
but one streak of gray? Does she die it that way?
Because I know plenty of women who do the one
blue one. You know, he had a red streak or
a blue streak or whatever.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
For the record, we're talking about the Director of National Intelligence,
And this is Jack's question.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Correct. Yeah, I don't know. Is an optional? I don't
know if she was. I know that that is a
condition people are born with. But the gray hair thing.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Is really in right now, the women letting it go gray,
letting it go gray, or dying at gray before it
goes gray.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
It's it. Oh yeah, friend of mine just went gray
or silver as she called it, at what age you mean? Right? Yes,
she's howled thirty nine or forty thirty nine, going early gray. Okay,
maybe that'll become a thing. She spotted a few and said,
I'm going to embrace it.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You know, when I run into a woman who's decided
to fully embrace the gray like men generally do, am
I shocked.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
But you don't see that very often.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
But Tulsa's just goes with the streak like a skunk stripe.
And I just wondered if that's justly or is that
now you think it's.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
That's not the most flattering way to describe it. Yeah,
I suspect that that's just the way her hair grows.
I'm a little more concerned about her affection for the
Kremlin and her whack adodal half a cult spiritual beliefs
in their pyramid schemes, and her affection for Edward Snowden,
who did a hell of a lot more than simply
exposed some of the NSA's sins. On the other hand,
(34:00):
her hair color is fascinating and worthy of inquiry.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yes, Katie, so she's actually commented on it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I started to gray in that spot during my first
deployment to Iraq, so I've chosen to keep it as
a daily reminder of the terrible.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Cost of war.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Awesome answer. That's a cool answer, That is very cool.
I still think she's a crackpot.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Okay, well, I'll tell you what Joe is doing, because
she said in her opening statement before I close, I
want to warn the American people watching at home, you
will hear lies and smears like you just said from
Joe Getty that challenge my loyalty and love of our country.
Those who oppose my nomination imply I'm loyal to something
or someone other than.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
God, said the trader.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
So Joe's part of the smear lizing, I guess said
she's claiming.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
As I said in some of the fever pitch run
up to the hearings during the transition period.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm glad they have hearings. I got an idea.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
How about we have the Senate advice and consent on
the president's appointees and we'll take a good, solid look
at all this stuff. I'm very content with this process.
And if she gets through it and all the Republicans
say for a job this critical, If all the Republicans say,
you know what, no, it seems that she's a good gal,
and let's give her.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
The job, man, all right with?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I want to talk about the whole process because I
heard a good podcast about it the other day, whether
it's outlived its uselessness. You know, most of our nation's history,
we didn't do this, even though it's in the constitution,
we didn't do it this way, at least partially because
there were no TV cameras. There is no benefit to
grand standing alone in a room like there is now.
But senators would do a little research on their own
(35:32):
and then and they you know, they would, they would
they they would vote one way or another, or write
a letter asking a question or whatever. That'd be their
advice and consent. Now we do this show, and there's
only been one time, like in the last forty years
that anything has ever come out of one of these
hearings that anybody thought actually made a difference in terms
of how people were already going to vote. See, you
gotta wonder if it's actually doing anything. But the process
(35:55):
does lead to all the media stuff that happens leading
up to it, and a number of people have been
out of the nomination by the media scrutiny before the hearing.
So maybe that's the real advice and consents going on.
Digging into Matt Gates before he even gets to the hearing,
and he, you know, he pulls his name.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
Absolutely, it reminds me of you know, well, I don't
have time to explain the metaphor, but I think it's very,
very useful.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
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