August 18, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- The Russia/Ukraine war & Marco Rubio's comments
- The meeting with EU leaders
- Bingo, Bango, Bongo
- AI news
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Jetty arm Strong
and Jettie and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
The President has said that in terms of territories and stuff,
these are things that Zelenski's gonna have to decide on.
But people that are out there talking what they don't know,
with all these stupid leaks and things of that nature,
they all want to just sound important.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So that was Marco Rubio, Secretary of State and the
National Security Advisor both. He was on a whole bunch
of talk shows yesterday, and his main themes were, this
is the very beginning. It's like the opening drive of
a golf tournament, and you know, we'll go from here.
(00:56):
You can't come to any conclusions, and then you don't
have any idea.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What you talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You don't know what we discussed, You don't know what
we're discussing, what our plans are.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A lot of the leaks are wrong. That was his
narrative all day long, right, and it's difficult to argue
with that. As it is. I think a lot of
us and I include us in that because of the
enormous stakes here, not just the human you know, lives
in Ukraine and the children being blown apart and making
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it safe for dictators to gobble up land by force
in the twenty first century. Blah blah blah. I mean,
it's there's a lot here. So we're very anxious to
read tea leaves and want things to go quote unquote
our way, whichever way that is. But often, in fairness,
there are ups and downs and ins and outs, and
(01:47):
a lot of it we're not aware of. That's all true.
But if Trump had said anything one thing on the
side of.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Hey, you're the evil SOB who started this and you're
killing civilians, I mean, anything even close to that, yes,
at any point, Yes, it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Would be easier to believe that it wasn't capitulation. He signed,
He shows every sign of capitulating to putin having been bullied.
He's back down, shows every sign of that. Is that true?
I don't know. I don't know either. I hope that's
a negotiating thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's like, uh, I'm gonna take every effort here to
make this is like non uh damaging's wrong word, but uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think I know what you mean. You're just you're
not gonna do anything that puts his guard up. You're
gonna say, oh, that's great, interesting, right, great proposal. Wow,
Well think about that. Well, we're gonna play some more clips.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't know if they include any of these include this,
But Marco kept saying that, kept saying, what about the sanctions?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What about it? This way? He said, the moment we
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The negotiations are over, the moment we hit them hard
with something, there's still time to do that. But if
we do that right up front, then we can't get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So that that's his argument. I want to I do
want to say this.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
NBC is reporting that Trump did discuss a NATO like
security guarantee for Ukraine with Zelensky and European leaders over
the weekend and that that will be some of the
topics of the conversation to day, a NATO like security
like you know here they were signing a document that
if that, if he could, if Putin comes back into Ukraine,
we got your back, that would be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah. If I'm Zelensky, I'm like, will this be just
like the agreement back in the day that said, you'd
ensure our security if we give up our nuclear arms
just like that one. Wow. Cool, I would be saying, yeah,
how about you get some guys here, like actually stationed
guys here, which otherwise and Great Britain among others.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Maybe talking about that today at the Oval Office with
Trump because they're all going to be there anyway. Here's
a little more Mark or Rubio on the Sunday shows.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, I mean you know this, well, how how long
these kind of diplomatic negotiations often President Trump was telling
European leaders. What was discussed was Putin demanding control of Dunesque,
a region in the east that his forces do not
fully hold, and the UK estimates that taking that full
area could be as long as another four years. Putin
(04:16):
also is demanding Russian be an official language in Ukraine
and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches. Did the US accept
all of what Putin laid out at that table?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The United States is not in a position to accept
anything or reject anything, because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians.
They're the ones that Russia has to.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Make peace with.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
President said, it's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions. Now,
there were some concepts and ideas discussed that we know
the Ukrainians can be very supportive of in that meeting.
I don't think it's we're not going to negotiate this
in the media. I understand that everybody wants to know
what happened. But ultimately there are things that were discussed
as part of this meeting that are potentials for breakthroughs,
that are potentials for progress. We'll be discussing that more
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in depth tomorrow with our European allies, with the Ukrainians
that are coming over. We'll be just discussing all of
these things because ultimately we do need to find areas
where we're making progress and try to begin to narrow
the gap between the two sides.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That's either true or it's not right right. I hope
it is. Yeah, I suspect it is. Whether you know
the bulk of it is at all acceptable to the
Ukrainian people is the big question mark. I mean, there's
I don't mean to be cavalier from a comfortable radio studio,
but there are times in life where you have to
(05:31):
fight till you can't fight anymore. That's why the boxer
just keeps getting up and getting knocked down again because
he thinks I'm not gonna stop fighting till I'm defeated,
even though it's looking very bad. And there are plenty
of people in Ukraine who think, no, we're not going
to just give up to quote unquote save lives and
be conquered by Putin. No, we're going to keep fighting
even if we've got to keep fighting until we're defeated. Otherwise,
(05:54):
how do we live with ourselves? What do we tell
our children? And we'll just have to see how all
that plays out. Well.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I didn't like the way Friday looked, But Marco Mark
what's her name? Margaret Brennan's question there? Did you just
give on everything? What are you basing that on? I mean,
what are you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Basing that on? She is an obnoxious horror. Uh. The
shininess of her legs only you know, rivaled by the
darkness of her soul. I hate to fall into the
truck something.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I hate to fall into the trap that everybody does
of playing the most spicy clip, even though it's not
the most important. But this questioning about why the European
leaders are coming to the White House today. They got
into that conversation.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelensky
is make a deal. Russia's a very big power, and
they're not. You know, there is concern from the Europeans
that President Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing
something away. That's why you have these European leaders coming
as back up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Can you No, It isn't that's that's not true. But
that's not why why that's not true. They're not coming
here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
They're not very old. They're coming here tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
The television cameras where President Zalynsky.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You don't how many meetings you?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Oh, no, I know, And I was just up the
bunch of with Vladimir Putin where red carpet rules.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We've had more meetings we've had We've had We've had
one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelenski.
So that but that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow.
It keeps Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here tomorrow
because we've been working with the Europeans. We talked to
them last week. There were meetings in the UK over
the follow the previous weekend, and they say.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
As early as Thursday.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep
Zelensky from being bullied.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
They're not coming here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming
here tomorrow because the Trump is going to bully Zelensky
into a bad deal. We've been working with these people
for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here
tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited
them to come. We invited them to come, The President
invited them to come.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think they're one hundred percent here to keep Zelensky
from getting bullied and or steamrolled. Yeah, although you know,
if you want to put it a little more diplomatically,
they're there to represent the European point of view. Yeah,
and interests which are more acute, more immediate.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Than ours is a nation. Yeah, it's not the only
reason they're here, sure, but it's part of it. It'd
be pretty hard to put together a deal that didn't
include the European leaders because we're not putting boots on
the ground. But Britain and Germany for instance, have talked
about it. Uh see, he can't make those decisions without
(08:45):
them in the room. Trump's meeting one on one with Zelensky,
Will Jade Vance and Trump are meeting with Zelensky, where's
your suit?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And then they're meeting with the European leaders later. Right, God,
dang it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He's just so crazy today. I have no idea how
it's going to go. So Trump did, I've got we
probably have the clip. He said over the weekend that president,
she said told him. She told Trump, according to Trump,
that he would not invade Taiwan as long as Trump
(09:22):
was president, and Trump said.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, I don't know about that, but that's what he
told me. It's because they got a five year timetable.
And if I understand the United States running dogs of
capitalist system, you're termed out. So yeah, we got a
five year planned You're out in three years. So yeah,
don't worry about it. I mean, it might be as
simple as that. I mean, Trump wants to portray it
(09:47):
as he doesn't dare because I'm such a hard ass. No,
it's just they're just not ready. They're getting their ducks
in a row. The Giant to militarize drone ducks. Yes,
so a lot of the world like myself.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Scheduled their day on Friday around that press conference because
I wanted to see that. Yeah, and when it actually
was happening, I thought they skipped the lunch. Okay, what happened.
They skipped the lunch below, the lunch has been canceled.
They're coming out to talk. Putin comes out and gives
a rambling, weird speech about a bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Trump talks for like twice, Trump's ass to a large extent,
kissing Trump's asking, but how about that stuff from Putin
saying the uh, you know, and I think you won
the twenty twenty election and this war wouldn't have happened
if you had been president. I mean, what is that?
And then Trump with it, going on and on about
the Russia Russia Russia hoax. I don't know. It was. Yeah,
(10:42):
everybody was excited about it. We all were watching it.
We were trading texts and stuff like that. I wish
it had been a nothing burger. It was an aluminum
foil and shards of glassburger. A nothing burger would have
been way better. But again, it might be a step
in the road towards something that's about as good as
(11:03):
it can get. I don't know. I was horrified by it,
sickened by it, you know. I yeah, I could not
have been more unhappy with the ass kissing of and
Putin and the utter refusal to condemn him. But you know,
the proof is in the pudding. The process is underway.
(11:26):
You know, the cases afoot and the results are what matter.
And Trump has some weird methods.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, the results are what's matter and we should judge
it by that at the end. But play sixty seven
for me, because this is a point Rubyo is making
over and over.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You talk about the intensifying strikes on the Russian side, Yeah,
I mean their full time war machine.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I mean, that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The Russian economy has basically been turned into a full
time wartime economy. They have a lot of people. It's
a big country. It's not just large geographically, it has
huge populations. It continues to turn through people. You know,
they lost any thousand Russian soldiers were killed last month
in July in this war. That just tells you the
price they're willing to pay. Not saying any of this
(12:07):
is admirable, I'm saying that this is the reality of
the war. That we're facing. It's become attrition. In some ways.
It's a meat grinder and they just have more meat
to grind.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So in that sub trust, that is some really good realism.
Well right, and.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Trump saying to Zelensky, look, they're a big country.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean again, that's not you might not like it,
you might wish were true, it might be might suck
to have to say those words, but they are willing
to feed people into a meat grinder. They got tons
of people. They're bigger than you, got more meat. Yeah,
so what do you do with that?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I think Zelensky's response would be he's an evil doer.
That's upsetting all of the norms you've said are important.
Why don't you help us more? Right?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So that is the other said, that's something that Marko
Rubia didn't get into yesterday, and I don't think he
was pushed well on. Well, yeah, they're a little country,
but if they were backed up by native and or
the United States, they could take on Russia.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So why aren't we doing that? Or it wouldn't be
necessary because Putin wouldn't want that fight, right, right, But
it's you know, blah blah blah World War three, nuclear
power escalation, not our fight. All those are legitimate concerns,
absolutely legitimate. Sure your thoughts on this text line?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Four one five, Oh, it's it's COVID, promptly COVID whooping cough.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
My wife went to the doctor, she's gotten uper respiratory thing.
They insisted on checking her for COVID. She's like, that's coronavirus.
She's like, who cares if I have COVID? What does
it matter?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's interesting When I had whooping cough. They never checked
me for COVID at any point.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Gunnery. It could be gunnery for me, not her. I
didn't see that. Most likely, Okay. Our text line is
four one five two k FTC.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
An elephant in India ran toward a man who tried
to take a selfie with the beast.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Signed to say, it's the first instance of Rosie O'Donnell
going after a man.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Wow, Wow, Greg, I don't think I've ever heard of
anybody who traffics in ugly or fat jokes more than
Greg Guttfeld.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah yeah, oh man, So.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We're trying to get a handle on where y'all are.
Not that that informs my opinion on this whole Rushia
Ukraine thing. I'm just interested in where you all are. Like,
Joe put out a pole on was it Friday? Did
you put the pole out on Twitter? What were your choices?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, your reaction to the summit meeting in Alaska. Let's see,
I worded them carefully, so I want to make sure
I can get this right. Here we go. Uh, Trump
said ceasefire or severe consequences, and I will be very unhappy.
No ceasefire, flattery and press conference and no consequences yet.
(15:14):
Pick your headline choice one Donald Trump keeps deal alive.
It's smart headline. Two fake tough guy backs down, and
the first much more complimentary one one fifty nine hundreds
of votes. Yeah, so it's basically fifty to fifty on that.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I threw out a I just said, I'm really this
was on Friday. I'm really disappointed in the way this
turned out, explaining me while I'm wrong basically, and uh,
there's a fair amount that agreed with me in disappointment,
and they're a fair amount that it's a long game,
it's a strategy, it's this and that, which it might
be for all I know. The text line for the
(15:58):
show is really hateful I mean, you guys have Trump's
private so far up your or down your whatever that
you can't see straight, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, so it's anti Trump people who are berating us. Yeah,
that's funny. I assumed it was pro Trump people at
least on the town line. It's funny. Mostly.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, you'll do anything to hill for the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So well, I hope you get help with your hearing
loss because that can be a devastating condition.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I think I've been definitely mostly on the side
of extreme disappointment with Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, I heard a lot of ass kissing myself.
That's the way I interpreted your obsequious belly showing remarks.
I'm just trying to be diplomatic here, so.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Anyways, trying to figure out where you all are on that.
So you can feel free to text or email. But
we'll have a lot more clarity today what happened in
the last seventy two hours. Probably Lee is going to
be not matter at all after today, because there'll be
a lot of movement with the European leaders and Zelenski
there at the White House. Got a lot more on
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Speaker 1 (17:10):
On Demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Katie didn't tell us the full story about the Minnesota
Vikings cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Stay, oh, oh is she keeping key facts back? Yes?
Hiding them as it were. Oh, don't look all incident,
All innocent, Katie. Easy for you to say, all right, yeah, anyway,
more on that to come. What else? There was something
else I was going to say, I can't remember. It
(17:40):
doesn't matter. Oh, that's right. So, you know, just talking
about the angst of some of the good folks about
whether we were busy servicing Trump in a way that
should only be done by his wives and paramours, or
whether indeed we're anti Trump lunatics, and we've been accused
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of both, like in the last fifteen minutes. Number one,
if you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah,
you've actually figured out the answer to that because we don't. Secondly,
it's okay if we disagree sometimes. Can you imagine agreeing
with somebody one hundred percent of the time, they're not
(18:25):
being honest with you. They're pandering. It's not what we do.
So anyway, I hope you can have a little patience
with us for that, all right. Having said that, of
all the things in the last day, the last week,
the last month that have made you say, what the
hell this might be the what the helliest of them,
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you former head of the FBI,
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framer of Donald Trump, propagator of the Russia hoax, James Comy.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold
turns out to have been COVID quite a flat, and
Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on
a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like
a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from.
But I don't want to talk about that bad dream
this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational
(19:15):
public figure named Taylor Swift. Of course I watched her
podcast interview with the Kelsey Brothers. Of course I watched
the whole thing, although on YouTube. Teresa and I got
kicked off for the last fifteen minutes and finished it
on her phone. But I watched it. You see Taylor
Swift and I go way back. I went to my
first concert of hers fifteen years ago. What I've been
(19:38):
to a second, and I have helped financially support the
attendance of a lot of family members at others. I'm
in a family's Swifty group chat. I know all her
music and I listened to it on my headphones when
I cut the grass.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's more. It goes on for a couple more minutes.
What the hell that's James? Call me? Are we sure
that's not Ai. I'd seen headline slash stories about it
in other places that I think would have known better,
or he would have pushed or looked like him. He
would have come out by now and said that wasn't him.
Oh yeah, yeah, I would agree. Wow, that's what If
(20:15):
anybody has any evidence that it is AI, I mean,
that would be even more interesting than whatever the hell
that just was the way he said certain things.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I've contributed to the financial efforts of some family members
to support Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You mean you bought tickets for your kids? I mean
New York Times x FBI director James Comy makes bizarre
confession Fox News James Comy raves about Taylor Swift in
bizarre video. The Daily Beast Maga melts down over James
Comy's creepy Taylor Swift video. Even they being lefties, are like, yeah,
(20:54):
that was weird and creepy.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well yeah, so I don't you know he likes Taylor
Swift whatever. I don't care kind of music other people like.
But the like the juxtaposition of that with Trump and.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Putin and everything, it's so weird and what is he
What was the point of that? Yeah, conservatives mock komy
over Taylor Swift video. That's the hill. Yeah, it's it's legit.
That's weird. Wow, he's a half a nut. Oh yeah, yeah,
absolutely true. Okay, Katie, you got to explain this.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So Katie had in her headlines I think last week
something about there are a couple of male cheerleaders from
the Minnesota Vikings. And I remember at the time, Am
I making this up? You didn't have that story?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Uh? I had a story about people were mad. Oh
it was an email that there were a couple of
gay fellas that were being Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders. And the
emailer was saying, look, you didn't care about the Vikings
cheerleaders before, don't start caring about them now. Worry about
things that matter.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, Well, wherever the story came from, So I was
just thinking, why is this a thing?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
There's always been male's cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
They're usually like really stocky, athletic looking dudes that look
like there are probably gymnasts that can, you know, hoist
the girls and flip them up in the air.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And catch them in that sort of stuff. That's not
really a new thing. No, being a friend in college
was one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
These male cheerleaders from the Minnesota Vikings are a tall, skinny, effeminate,
long haired, wearing the girl's outfits cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh gender bending madness? Yeah, what the hell? I mean?
You know, do you so woke the Minneapolis metro area?
You do you?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm just surprised for the NFL that they went
with the I mean, they don't say they're specifically transgender,
although they look.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Like they could be. Blaze see their dudes dressed as women,
blaze chic really and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
As one person's and uh yeah, and they I mean
they're liberacci is in heaven.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Saying that's too gay, too blaze cheic. You gotta rein
it in. You think liberacis in heaven? Not in my heaven?
He's not. Wow, I'm fine, not going there.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Okay, So I just thought, man, they went really far
there at the I know, I realized Minnesota is a
very progressive town, but NFL fans generally aren't.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right well, Minneapolis as such is that weird red green
alliance between like way left Marxists and Muslim fundamentalists mostly
from Somalia. The only thing they agree is they hate
America and want to tear it down. Sorry to do
it with the help of two lanky dressed as male
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women or women. It's whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So I drug sorry, I drug you into this, Katie
for some reason, I thought you were involved in this story.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Then all right, I'll get over it. Oh Katie, you
know what you need to hear. You're gonna find this
so sweet. So we're going to London next week, will
be off. Please forgive me. Judy and I we haven't
really done much for a long time, and so we're
doing a vacation in London, and we got to have
somebody take care of our dog. Well, our friend, I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna call him Don, our friend Don
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who like loves dogs beyond loving dogs. When he was divorced,
he and his dog, it was just the two of
them living in rural Wyoming, okay, out in the middle
of nowhere. They were close. Well, he lost his beloved
dog a couple of months ago. He passed on, and
they volunteered to take care of Baxter for the week
(24:38):
we're gone. And so we brought Basie over to the
house and had dinner and stuff to introduce him and
show him around the house. And I'll oh my, they're
not going to give him back. Oh that's oh my god.
Did they bond And the two of them were like
fast friends and oh wow, my buddy, don he's just
oh he was so happy.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well, it's more from a dog's perspective. When you come back,
Baxter's gonna say, you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Guys, Oh you that like makes me do stuff and
you give me commands and stuff. I get nothing but
love here, nothing but love. I didn't realize how good
it could be, you fully telling me to sit and
wait to eat until you say it's okay, I'm staying here. Yeah,
(25:25):
probably so, but anyway, Oh it is so sweet. I
love that. Yeah, I know. Katie's a famous dog lover.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
By the way, a couple of non Ukraine Russia related
news items for you, Mayor Adams of New York slams
Mumdani for wanting to decriminalize prostitution.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't know where in.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
His Kuran it states that that's okay. Oh like that.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Well, see, that's the thing. The Marxists and the Islamists
is an unholy alliance pun intended well out of side
Mayor Adams finding a way to work in.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He wants prostitution to be illegal and takes a shot
at his being a Muslim at the same time.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I mean, that's pretty clever. That's a lot of that.
That race is not over. That's exciting stuff. No, the
knives have just now come out from Mamdani really, uh
so totally different topic. Musk Altman and all the other
(26:30):
super heavyweights of AI are now getting together, well not
getting together exactly, but they're all talking about how universal
basic income is a really good idea and that when
AI unleashes just mountains of profit, but you know, inconveniently
renders millions of people unemployable, they are willing to share
(26:54):
the wealth and we will probably have a major universal
basic income system. I think you said this a week
or so ago. Well, how's the math work on that?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So these companies become incredibly productive they're not going to
voluntarily give this money over to the Guaranteed Income program,
so that government going to tax you if you use
a I at a different rate or no.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it's it's that these companies. Let me, let
me just read you this and see if that answer
your question, then I've got an answer. Well many of
well many people think of UBI, that's universal basic income
as a taxpayer funded system. Silicon Valley's elite envision AI
doing humans work from mundane factory jobs to highly skilled
white collar roles and funding payouts through cost savings and
(27:45):
more revenue. Tech leaders say that revenue can be shared
under a massive wealth redistribution system. Essentially, there are going
to be so few people running these companies making such
astounding mountain of money that they're willing to share a
significant chunk to keep the populace from going berserk because
(28:09):
you know, so many people are going to be out
of work. Okay, that's nice. Words. They're going to share
how much with who distributed how well the bare minimum
they can get away with through the filter of government,
which will enrich bureaucrats and fat cats and takers, not makers,
(28:30):
and the rest of us will get a pittance after
the oligarchs have taken their share.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well like, and then do they hand out the money
to everyone? I mean, like, if I'm unemployed, I can say,
you know, I would have a job over there if
it weren't for AI give me a check whereas I'm working.
Me Jack Armstrong, I'm working. Why don't I I'm not
getting any of that because I already.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Have a job. So isn't that going to motivate people?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I wouldn't quit this job, But wouldn't that motivates some
people who have jobs they don't prictually like to quit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Them and claim that I don't know that this is
how it's gonna come out, But you're forgetting the universal
part of universal basic income goes to everybody gets it,
everybody gets it flat fee.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I really don't see how this works. Altman said, isn't
that okay? There are so many questions I have here.
Maybe I'm just a dullard. But so if I'm all
of a sudden getting a big check from Universal income
that keeps my life going, doesn't my company then not
need to give me a raise or starts hiring people
(29:32):
at lower salaries because a chunk of it's picked up
by the government with the universal income.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think the gainfully employed will be such a minority.
Folks like you will be an afterthought. Wow your scenario.
Yeah wow, so Altman, Old Sam Altman of Open AI
chat GPT fame. He was on THEO Vaughn's podcast. He
now thinks that instead of money, everyone could receive an
ownership share in whatever AI creates that would allow the
(29:58):
wealth accumulated by AI to he spread across the population,
calling the idea a universal extreme mode. You're talking about
a restructuring of society in a very short period of time,
the likes of which has never happened in the history
of the world. Correct. Yes, it's a brave new world.
He imagined a scenario in which every human is giving
(30:19):
a given a trillion tokens. Oh, there's more to hate here.
The basic unit of information that large language models use
each year. You can sell it or treat it as
personal wealth. Is an alternative to all wealth being consolidated
in the normal capitalistic system. He says, Okay, okay, this
is just this is too much, too fast. This is
(30:39):
never gonna happen. Uh yeah, Actually, there the labor there's
a labor economist in Mit called it frightening in a
political fantasy land. There's more to this discussion. We ought
to maybe bring it over to the next on the
other side of the break.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, I would like to talk more about it. I
wonder if they're just not throwing out half brained ideas
because they got to have something to say, say to
push back against everybody's going to be out of work. Okay,
we got a lot on the way. While that is
really really interesting, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Got a horrible story.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Maybe we'll get to later about this little girl who
was using chat gpt.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Little girl shoes young using chat.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Gpt for therapy and ended up killing herself and now
mom's trying to sue somebody about therapy or something.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, they've really got to work out that whole. It
encourages you and is supportive of you, even if you're
like delusional or terribly depressed. Hey, you're right, nobody does
like you. If you say you're worthless, I'm working. I'm
with you. You know, No, you got to tweak that.
Sam so Sam Altman of Open Ai, speaking of witches,
(31:52):
we were discussing. He's been making the rounds talking to
various folks about how AI is going to create just
ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scads of people
out of work. And so he's pushing something it's like
universal basic income, but he calls it universal extreme wealth,
(32:13):
that everybody will just get the outflow of wealth from
this technological marvel he and others are designing.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I like how blase they are about restructuring society in
ways nobody has ever done. In like six months from now,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, turning us all into the idle rich and then
it'll just be grand and marve. Think about the rich
kids you know that have been on trust funds their
whole lives. They've all got wonderful lives. So happiness and
productivity right. Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept
that AI will automate most production and the public can
(32:51):
share in the revenue. Mark Bennioff, CEO of Salesforce, says
up to half of the work at the company is
now done by AI. Oh my god. He is an
evangelist for universal basic income and said during the pandemic
that he sees COVID nineteen stimulus checks as a model
for broader income distribution. Oh wow. Mark do you even
(33:13):
read the news? But so you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Emphasized the you and universal. I wasn't picturing that. So
we're all gonna get a.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Chunk of the money. Well then how about that? He
canna be welfare. It's just gonna float everybody. But we're fine.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But if you don't have a job that was affected
by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on,
is the point they're making. I mean, right, so if
you don't have a job affected by AI, why would
you keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, see, that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as
more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will
drive income inequality one of the most overused in stupid
terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income quote for those who
cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for
raising a family or volunteering to help others. In other words,
a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians
(34:01):
will decide who gets what. They will route it to
cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will
just be you know, uncountable scads of money. Now there
are critics, not all of Silicon Valley is on board.
Here's David Autor, labor economist, and MIT said the hypothetical
society in which the majority of income has distributed from
a few sources is frightening in a political fantasy land.
(34:26):
AI leaders support universal income because quote, they think they're
gonna put everyone out of work and they don't have
a better idea for what to do about that.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's a This
whole thing you've described is completely unworkable.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
In any realistic sense.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
So I is anybody thinking about this?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Is Congress thinking about this? They should be if they're not. Interestingly,
venture capitalist Marc Andreesen is my man in this. Uh.
He says that man was meant to be useful, to
be p ductive, to be proud, And if AI transforms
every job, that's going to be a serious, serious challenge.
(35:08):
That's the big world's biggest understatement, serious challenge. Yeah, I'd
say maybe the end of mankind might be closer. All right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
The President has said that in terms of territories and stuff,
these are things that Zelenski's gonna have to decide on.
But people that are out there talking what they don't know,
with all these stupid leaks and things of that nature,
they all want to just sound important.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
They don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
So that was Marco Rubio, Secretary of State and the
National Security Advisor both. He was on a whole bunch
of talk shows yesterday, and his main themes were, this
is the very beginning. It's like the opening drive of
a golf tournament, and you know, we'll go from here.
(00:56):
You can't come to any conclusions, and then you don't
have any idea.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
What you talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You don't know what we discussed, You don't know what
we're discussing, what our plans are.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
A lot of the leaks are wrong. That was his
narrative all day long, right, and it's difficult to argue
with that. As it is. I think a lot of
us and I include us in that because of the
enormous stakes here, not just the human you know, lives
in Ukraine and the children being blown apart and making
(01:27):
it safe for dictators to gobble up land by force
in the twenty first century. Blah blah blah. I mean,
it's there's a lot here. So we're very anxious to
read tea leaves and want things to go quote unquote
our way, whichever way that is. But often, in fairness,
there are ups and downs and ins and outs, and
(01:47):
a lot of it we're not aware of. That's all true.
But if Trump had said anything one thing on the
side of.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Hey, you're the evil SOB who started this and you're
killing civilians, I mean, anything even close to that, yes,
at any point, Yes, it.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Would be easier to believe that it wasn't capitulation. He signed,
He shows every sign of capitulating to putin having been bullied.
He's back down, shows every sign of that. Is that true?
I don't know. I don't know either. I hope that's
a negotiating thing.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's like, uh, I'm gonna take every effort here to
make this is like non uh damaging's wrong word, but uh,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I think I know what you mean. You're just you're
not gonna do anything that puts his guard up. You're
gonna say, oh, that's great, interesting, right, great proposal. Wow,
Well think about that. Well, we're gonna play some more clips.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I don't know if they include any of these include this,
But Marco kept saying that, kept saying, what about the sanctions?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What about it? This way? He said, the moment we
do that.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The negotiations are over, the moment we hit them hard
with something, there's still time to do that. But if
we do that right up front, then we can't get anywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So that that's his argument. I want to I do
want to say this.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
NBC is reporting that Trump did discuss a NATO like
security guarantee for Ukraine with Zelensky and European leaders over
the weekend and that that will be some of the
topics of the conversation to day, a NATO like security
like you know here they were signing a document that
if that, if he could, if Putin comes back into Ukraine,
we got your back, that would be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah. If I'm Zelensky, I'm like, will this be just
like the agreement back in the day that said, you'd
ensure our security if we give up our nuclear arms
just like that one. Wow. Cool, I would be saying, yeah,
how about you get some guys here, like actually stationed
guys here, which otherwise and Great Britain among others.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Maybe talking about that today at the Oval Office with
Trump because they're all going to be there anyway. Here's
a little more Mark or Rubio on the Sunday shows.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well, I mean you know this, well, how how long
these kind of diplomatic negotiations often President Trump was telling
European leaders. What was discussed was Putin demanding control of Dunesque,
a region in the east that his forces do not
fully hold, and the UK estimates that taking that full
area could be as long as another four years. Putin
(04:16):
also is demanding Russian be an official language in Ukraine
and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches. Did the US accept
all of what Putin laid out at that table?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
The United States is not in a position to accept
anything or reject anything, because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians.
They're the ones that Russia has to.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Make peace with.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
President said, it's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions. Now,
there were some concepts and ideas discussed that we know
the Ukrainians can be very supportive of in that meeting.
I don't think it's we're not going to negotiate this
in the media. I understand that everybody wants to know
what happened. But ultimately there are things that were discussed
as part of this meeting that are potentials for breakthroughs,
that are potentials for progress. We'll be discussing that more
(04:55):
in depth tomorrow with our European allies, with the Ukrainians
that are coming over. We'll be just discussing all of
these things because ultimately we do need to find areas
where we're making progress and try to begin to narrow
the gap between the two sides.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That's either true or it's not right right. I hope
it is. Yeah, I suspect it is. Whether you know
the bulk of it is at all acceptable to the
Ukrainian people is the big question mark. I mean, there's
I don't mean to be cavalier from a comfortable radio studio,
but there are times in life where you have to
(05:31):
fight till you can't fight anymore. That's why the boxer
just keeps getting up and getting knocked down again because
he thinks I'm not gonna stop fighting till I'm defeated,
even though it's looking very bad. And there are plenty
of people in Ukraine who think, no, we're not going
to just give up to quote unquote save lives and
be conquered by Putin. No, we're going to keep fighting
even if we've got to keep fighting until we're defeated. Otherwise,
(05:54):
how do we live with ourselves? What do we tell
our children? And we'll just have to see how all
that plays out. Well.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I didn't like the way Friday looked, But Marco Mark
what's her name? Margaret Brennan's question there? Did you just
give on everything? What are you basing that on? I mean,
what are you.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Basing that on? She is an obnoxious horror. Uh. The
shininess of her legs only you know, rivaled by the
darkness of her soul. I hate to fall into the
truck something.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I hate to fall into the trap that everybody does
of playing the most spicy clip, even though it's not
the most important. But this questioning about why the European
leaders are coming to the White House today. They got
into that conversation.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelensky
is make a deal. Russia's a very big power, and
they're not. You know, there is concern from the Europeans
that President Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing
something away. That's why you have these European leaders coming
as back up tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Can you No, It isn't that's that's not true. But
that's not why why that's not true. They're not coming
here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
They're not very old. They're coming here tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
The television cameras where President Zalynsky.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You don't how many meetings you?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Oh, no, I know, And I was just up the
bunch of with Vladimir Putin where red carpet rules.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We've had more meetings we've had We've had We've had
one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelenski.
So that but that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow.
It keeps Zelensky from being bullied. They're coming here tomorrow
because we've been working with the Europeans. We talked to
them last week. There were meetings in the UK over
the follow the previous weekend, and they say.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
As early as Thursday.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
But you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep
Zelensky from being bullied.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
They're not coming here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming
here tomorrow because the Trump is going to bully Zelensky
into a bad deal. We've been working with these people
for weeks, for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here
tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow. We invited
them to come. We invited them to come, The President
invited them to come.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I think they're one hundred percent here to keep Zelensky
from getting bullied and or steamrolled. Yeah, although you know,
if you want to put it a little more diplomatically,
they're there to represent the European point of view. Yeah,
and interests which are more acute, more immediate.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Than ours is a nation. Yeah, it's not the only
reason they're here, sure, but it's part of it. It'd
be pretty hard to put together a deal that didn't
include the European leaders because we're not putting boots on
the ground. But Britain and Germany for instance, have talked
about it. Uh see, he can't make those decisions without
(08:45):
them in the room. Trump's meeting one on one with Zelensky,
Will Jade Vance and Trump are meeting with Zelensky, where's
your suit?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And then they're meeting with the European leaders later. Right, God,
dang it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
He's just so crazy today. I have no idea how
it's going to go. So Trump did, I've got we
probably have the clip. He said over the weekend that president,
she said told him. She told Trump, according to Trump,
that he would not invade Taiwan as long as Trump
(09:22):
was president, and Trump said.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, I don't know about that, but that's what he
told me. It's because they got a five year timetable.
And if I understand the United States running dogs of
capitalist system, you're termed out. So yeah, we got a
five year planned You're out in three years. So yeah,
don't worry about it. I mean, it might be as
simple as that. I mean, Trump wants to portray it
(09:47):
as he doesn't dare because I'm such a hard ass. No,
it's just they're just not ready. They're getting their ducks
in a row. The Giant to militarize drone ducks. Yes,
so a lot of the world like myself.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Scheduled their day on Friday around that press conference because
I wanted to see that. Yeah, and when it actually
was happening, I thought they skipped the lunch. Okay, what happened.
They skipped the lunch below, the lunch has been canceled.
They're coming out to talk. Putin comes out and gives
a rambling, weird speech about a bunch of different stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Trump talks for like twice, Trump's ass to a large extent,
kissing Trump's asking, but how about that stuff from Putin
saying the uh, you know, and I think you won
the twenty twenty election and this war wouldn't have happened
if you had been president. I mean, what is that?
And then Trump with it, going on and on about
the Russia Russia Russia hoax. I don't know. It was. Yeah,
(10:42):
everybody was excited about it. We all were watching it.
We were trading texts and stuff like that. I wish
it had been a nothing burger. It was an aluminum
foil and shards of glassburger. A nothing burger would have
been way better. But again, it might be a step
in the road towards something that's about as good as
(11:03):
it can get. I don't know. I was horrified by it,
sickened by it, you know. I yeah, I could not
have been more unhappy with the ass kissing of and
Putin and the utter refusal to condemn him. But you know,
the proof is in the pudding. The process is underway.
(11:26):
You know, the cases afoot and the results are what matter.
And Trump has some weird methods.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, the results are what's matter and we should judge
it by that at the end. But play sixty seven
for me, because this is a point Rubyo is making
over and over.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
You talk about the intensifying strikes on the Russian side, Yeah,
I mean their full time war machine.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I mean, that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The Russian economy has basically been turned into a full
time wartime economy. They have a lot of people. It's
a big country. It's not just large geographically, it has
huge populations. It continues to turn through people. You know,
they lost any thousand Russian soldiers were killed last month
in July in this war. That just tells you the
price they're willing to pay. Not saying any of this
(12:07):
is admirable, I'm saying that this is the reality of
the war. That we're facing. It's become attrition. In some ways.
It's a meat grinder and they just have more meat
to grind.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So in that sub trust, that is some really good realism.
Well right, and.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Trump saying to Zelensky, look, they're a big country.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean again, that's not you might not like it,
you might wish were true, it might be might suck
to have to say those words, but they are willing
to feed people into a meat grinder. They got tons
of people. They're bigger than you, got more meat. Yeah,
so what do you do with that?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I think Zelensky's response would be he's an evil doer.
That's upsetting all of the norms you've said are important.
Why don't you help us more? Right?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So that is the other said, that's something that Marko
Rubia didn't get into yesterday, and I don't think he
was pushed well on. Well, yeah, they're a little country,
but if they were backed up by native and or
the United States, they could take on Russia.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
So why aren't we doing that? Or it wouldn't be
necessary because Putin wouldn't want that fight, right, right, But
it's you know, blah blah blah World War three, nuclear
power escalation, not our fight. All those are legitimate concerns,
absolutely legitimate. Sure your thoughts on this text line?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Four one five, Oh, it's it's COVID, promptly COVID whooping cough.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
My wife went to the doctor, she's gotten uper respiratory thing.
They insisted on checking her for COVID. She's like, that's coronavirus.
She's like, who cares if I have COVID? What does
it matter?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
That's interesting When I had whooping cough. They never checked
me for COVID at any point.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Gunnery. It could be gunnery for me, not her. I
didn't see that. Most likely, Okay. Our text line is
four one five two k FTC.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
An elephant in India ran toward a man who tried
to take a selfie with the beast.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Signed to say, it's the first instance of Rosie O'Donnell
going after a man.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
Wow, Wow, Greg, I don't think I've ever heard of
anybody who traffics in ugly or fat jokes more than
Greg Guttfeld.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah yeah, oh man, So.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
We're trying to get a handle on where y'all are.
Not that that informs my opinion on this whole Rushia
Ukraine thing. I'm just interested in where you all are. Like,
Joe put out a pole on was it Friday? Did
you put the pole out on Twitter? What were your choices?
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Oh, your reaction to the summit meeting in Alaska. Let's see,
I worded them carefully, so I want to make sure
I can get this right. Here we go. Uh, Trump
said ceasefire or severe consequences, and I will be very unhappy.
No ceasefire, flattery and press conference and no consequences yet.
(15:14):
Pick your headline choice one Donald Trump keeps deal alive.
It's smart headline. Two fake tough guy backs down, and
the first much more complimentary one one fifty nine hundreds
of votes. Yeah, so it's basically fifty to fifty on that.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I threw out a I just said, I'm really this
was on Friday. I'm really disappointed in the way this
turned out, explaining me while I'm wrong basically, and uh,
there's a fair amount that agreed with me in disappointment,
and they're a fair amount that it's a long game,
it's a strategy, it's this and that, which it might
be for all I know. The text line for the
(15:58):
show is really hateful I mean, you guys have Trump's
private so far up your or down your whatever that
you can't see straight, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh, so it's anti Trump people who are berating us. Yeah,
that's funny. I assumed it was pro Trump people at
least on the town line. It's funny. Mostly.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, you'll do anything to hill for the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So well, I hope you get help with your hearing
loss because that can be a devastating condition.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Well, I think I've been definitely mostly on the side
of extreme disappointment with Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know, I heard a lot of ass kissing myself.
That's the way I interpreted your obsequious belly showing remarks.
I'm just trying to be diplomatic here, so.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Anyways, trying to figure out where you all are on that.
So you can feel free to text or email. But
we'll have a lot more clarity today what happened in
the last seventy two hours. Probably Lee is going to
be not matter at all after today, because there'll be
a lot of movement with the European leaders and Zelenski
there at the White House. Got a lot more on
the way. If you missed a segment get the podcast
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
On Demand Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Katie didn't tell us the full story about the Minnesota
Vikings cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Stay, oh, oh is she keeping key facts back? Yes?
Hiding them as it were. Oh, don't look all incident,
All innocent, Katie. Easy for you to say, all right, yeah, anyway,
more on that to come. What else? There was something
else I was going to say, I can't remember. It
(17:40):
doesn't matter. Oh, that's right. So, you know, just talking
about the angst of some of the good folks about
whether we were busy servicing Trump in a way that
should only be done by his wives and paramours, or
whether indeed we're anti Trump lunatics, and we've been accused
(18:00):
of both, like in the last fifteen minutes. Number one,
if you're trying to decide which side are they pandering to? Ah,
you've actually figured out the answer to that because we don't. Secondly,
it's okay if we disagree sometimes. Can you imagine agreeing
with somebody one hundred percent of the time, they're not
(18:25):
being honest with you. They're pandering. It's not what we do.
So anyway, I hope you can have a little patience
with us for that, all right. Having said that, of
all the things in the last day, the last week,
the last month that have made you say, what the
hell this might be the what the helliest of them,
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you former head of the FBI,
(18:46):
framer of Donald Trump, propagator of the Russia hoax, James Comy.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Hey, everybody, welcome back to my substack. Last week's cold
turns out to have been COVID quite a flat, and
Donald Trump is still president and still humiliating America on
a national stage standing next to Vladimir Putin. It's like
a dream, a bad dream you can't wake up from.
But I don't want to talk about that bad dream
this week. I want to talk about a truly inspirational
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public figure named Taylor Swift. Of course I watched her
podcast interview with the Kelsey Brothers. Of course I watched
the whole thing, although on YouTube. Teresa and I got
kicked off for the last fifteen minutes and finished it
on her phone. But I watched it. You see Taylor
Swift and I go way back. I went to my
first concert of hers fifteen years ago. What I've been
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to a second, and I have helped financially support the
attendance of a lot of family members at others. I'm
in a family's Swifty group chat. I know all her
music and I listened to it on my headphones when
I cut the grass.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
There's more. It goes on for a couple more minutes.
What the hell that's James? Call me? Are we sure
that's not Ai. I'd seen headline slash stories about it
in other places that I think would have known better,
or he would have pushed or looked like him. He
would have come out by now and said that wasn't him.
Oh yeah, yeah, I would agree. Wow, that's what If
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anybody has any evidence that it is AI, I mean,
that would be even more interesting than whatever the hell
that just was the way he said certain things.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I've contributed to the financial efforts of some family members
to support Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You mean you bought tickets for your kids? I mean
New York Times x FBI director James Comy makes bizarre
confession Fox News James Comy raves about Taylor Swift in
bizarre video. The Daily Beast Maga melts down over James
Comy's creepy Taylor Swift video. Even they being lefties, are like, yeah,
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that was weird and creepy.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well yeah, so I don't you know he likes Taylor
Swift whatever. I don't care kind of music other people like.
But the like the juxtaposition of that with Trump and.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Putin and everything, it's so weird and what is he
What was the point of that? Yeah, conservatives mock komy
over Taylor Swift video. That's the hill. Yeah, it's it's legit.
That's weird. Wow, he's a half a nut. Oh yeah, yeah,
absolutely true. Okay, Katie, you got to explain this.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
So Katie had in her headlines I think last week
something about there are a couple of male cheerleaders from
the Minnesota Vikings. And I remember at the time, Am
I making this up? You didn't have that story?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Uh? I had a story about people were mad. Oh
it was an email that there were a couple of
gay fellas that were being Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders. And the
emailer was saying, look, you didn't care about the Vikings
cheerleaders before, don't start caring about them now. Worry about
things that matter.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Okay, Well, wherever the story came from, So I was
just thinking, why is this a thing?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
There's always been male's cheerleaders.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
They're usually like really stocky, athletic looking dudes that look
like there are probably gymnasts that can, you know, hoist
the girls and flip them up in the air.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
And catch them in that sort of stuff. That's not
really a new thing. No, being a friend in college
was one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
These male cheerleaders from the Minnesota Vikings are a tall, skinny, effeminate,
long haired, wearing the girl's outfits cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Oh gender bending madness? Yeah, what the hell? I mean?
You know, do you so woke the Minneapolis metro area?
You do you?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But I'm just surprised for the NFL that they went
with the I mean, they don't say they're specifically transgender,
although they look.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Like they could be. Blaze see their dudes dressed as women,
blaze chic really and.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
As one person's and uh yeah, and they I mean
they're liberacci is in heaven.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Saying that's too gay, too blaze cheic. You gotta rein
it in. You think liberacis in heaven? Not in my heaven?
He's not. Wow, I'm fine, not going there.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Okay, So I just thought, man, they went really far
there at the I know, I realized Minnesota is a
very progressive town, but NFL fans generally aren't.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Right well, Minneapolis as such is that weird red green
alliance between like way left Marxists and Muslim fundamentalists mostly
from Somalia. The only thing they agree is they hate
America and want to tear it down. Sorry to do
it with the help of two lanky dressed as male
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women or women. It's whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
So I drug sorry, I drug you into this, Katie
for some reason, I thought you were involved in this story.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Then all right, I'll get over it. Oh Katie, you
know what you need to hear. You're gonna find this
so sweet. So we're going to London next week, will
be off. Please forgive me. Judy and I we haven't
really done much for a long time, and so we're
doing a vacation in London, and we got to have
somebody take care of our dog. Well, our friend, I'm
gonna say, I'm gonna call him Don, our friend Don
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who like loves dogs beyond loving dogs. When he was divorced,
he and his dog, it was just the two of
them living in rural Wyoming, okay, out in the middle
of nowhere. They were close. Well, he lost his beloved
dog a couple of months ago. He passed on, and
they volunteered to take care of Baxter for the week
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we're gone. And so we brought Basie over to the
house and had dinner and stuff to introduce him and
show him around the house. And I'll oh my, they're
not going to give him back. Oh that's oh my god.
Did they bond And the two of them were like
fast friends and oh wow, my buddy, don he's just
oh he was so happy.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Well, it's more from a dog's perspective. When you come back,
Baxter's gonna say, you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Guys, Oh you that like makes me do stuff and
you give me commands and stuff. I get nothing but
love here, nothing but love. I didn't realize how good
it could be, you fully telling me to sit and
wait to eat until you say it's okay, I'm staying here. Yeah,
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probably so, but anyway, Oh it is so sweet. I
love that. Yeah, I know. Katie's a famous dog lover.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
By the way, a couple of non Ukraine Russia related
news items for you, Mayor Adams of New York slams
Mumdani for wanting to decriminalize prostitution.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't know where in.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
His Kuran it states that that's okay. Oh like that.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Well, see, that's the thing. The Marxists and the Islamists
is an unholy alliance pun intended well out of side
Mayor Adams finding a way to work in.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He wants prostitution to be illegal and takes a shot
at his being a Muslim at the same time.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I mean, that's pretty clever. That's a lot of that.
That race is not over. That's exciting stuff. No, the
knives have just now come out from Mamdani really, uh
so totally different topic. Musk Altman and all the other
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super heavyweights of AI are now getting together, well not
getting together exactly, but they're all talking about how universal
basic income is a really good idea and that when
AI unleashes just mountains of profit, but you know, inconveniently
renders millions of people unemployable, they are willing to share
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the wealth and we will probably have a major universal
basic income system. I think you said this a week
or so ago. Well, how's the math work on that?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
So these companies become incredibly productive they're not going to
voluntarily give this money over to the Guaranteed Income program,
so that government going to tax you if you use
a I at a different rate or no.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it's it's that these companies. Let me, let
me just read you this and see if that answer
your question, then I've got an answer. Well many of
well many people think of UBI, that's universal basic income
as a taxpayer funded system. Silicon Valley's elite envision AI
doing humans work from mundane factory jobs to highly skilled
white collar roles and funding payouts through cost savings and
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more revenue. Tech leaders say that revenue can be shared
under a massive wealth redistribution system. Essentially, there are going
to be so few people running these companies making such
astounding mountain of money that they're willing to share a
significant chunk to keep the populace from going berserk because
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you know, so many people are going to be out
of work. Okay, that's nice. Words. They're going to share
how much with who distributed how well the bare minimum
they can get away with through the filter of government,
which will enrich bureaucrats and fat cats and takers, not makers,
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and the rest of us will get a pittance after
the oligarchs have taken their share.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Well like, and then do they hand out the money
to everyone? I mean, like, if I'm unemployed, I can say,
you know, I would have a job over there if
it weren't for AI give me a check whereas I'm working.
Me Jack Armstrong, I'm working. Why don't I I'm not
getting any of that because I already.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Have a job. So isn't that going to motivate people?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I wouldn't quit this job, But wouldn't that motivates some
people who have jobs they don't prictually like to quit.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Them and claim that I don't know that this is
how it's gonna come out, But you're forgetting the universal
part of universal basic income goes to everybody gets it,
everybody gets it flat fee.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I really don't see how this works. Altman said, isn't
that okay? There are so many questions I have here.
Maybe I'm just a dullard. But so if I'm all
of a sudden getting a big check from Universal income
that keeps my life going, doesn't my company then not
need to give me a raise or starts hiring people
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at lower salaries because a chunk of it's picked up
by the government with the universal income.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think the gainfully employed will be such a minority.
Folks like you will be an afterthought. Wow your scenario.
Yeah wow, so Altman, Old Sam Altman of Open AI
chat GPT fame. He was on THEO Vaughn's podcast. He
now thinks that instead of money, everyone could receive an
ownership share in whatever AI creates that would allow the
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wealth accumulated by AI to he spread across the population,
calling the idea a universal extreme mode. You're talking about
a restructuring of society in a very short period of time,
the likes of which has never happened in the history
of the world. Correct. Yes, it's a brave new world.
He imagined a scenario in which every human is giving
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a given a trillion tokens. Oh, there's more to hate here.
The basic unit of information that large language models use
each year. You can sell it or treat it as
personal wealth. Is an alternative to all wealth being consolidated
in the normal capitalistic system. He says, Okay, okay, this
is just this is too much, too fast. This is
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never gonna happen. Uh yeah, Actually, there the labor there's
a labor economist in Mit called it frightening in a
political fantasy land. There's more to this discussion. We ought
to maybe bring it over to the next on the
other side of the break.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Yeah, I would like to talk more about it. I
wonder if they're just not throwing out half brained ideas
because they got to have something to say, say to
push back against everybody's going to be out of work. Okay,
we got a lot on the way. While that is
really really interesting, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Got a horrible story.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Maybe we'll get to later about this little girl who
was using chat gpt.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Little girl shoes young using chat.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Gpt for therapy and ended up killing herself and now
mom's trying to sue somebody about therapy or something.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, they've really got to work out that whole. It
encourages you and is supportive of you, even if you're
like delusional or terribly depressed. Hey, you're right, nobody does
like you. If you say you're worthless, I'm working. I'm
with you. You know, No, you got to tweak that.
Sam so Sam Altman of Open Ai, speaking of witches,
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we were discussing. He's been making the rounds talking to
various folks about how AI is going to create just
ginormous amounts of wealth but also put scads of people
out of work. And so he's pushing something it's like
universal basic income, but he calls it universal extreme wealth,
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that everybody will just get the outflow of wealth from
this technological marvel he and others are designing.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I like how blase they are about restructuring society in
ways nobody has ever done. In like six months from now,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah, turning us all into the idle rich and then
it'll just be grand and marve. Think about the rich
kids you know that have been on trust funds their
whole lives. They've all got wonderful lives. So happiness and
productivity right. Elon Musk touts universal high income, the concept
that AI will automate most production and the public can
(32:51):
share in the revenue. Mark Bennioff, CEO of Salesforce, says
up to half of the work at the company is
now done by AI. Oh my god. He is an
evangelist for universal basic income and said during the pandemic
that he sees COVID nineteen stimulus checks as a model
for broader income distribution. Oh wow. Mark do you even
(33:13):
read the news? But so you.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Emphasized the you and universal. I wasn't picturing that. So
we're all gonna get a.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Chunk of the money. Well then how about that? He
canna be welfare. It's just gonna float everybody. But we're fine.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
But if you don't have a job that was affected
by AI, I'm assuming this is enough to live on,
is the point they're making. I mean, right, so if
you don't have a job affected by AI, why would
you keep working your job? Won't everybody quit?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Well, see, that's the thing. Benioff actually sees it as
more of a welfare program. He wrote that automation will
drive income inequality one of the most overused in stupid
terms anywhere, and necessitate supplemental income quote for those who
cannot be retrained and even those traditionally not compensated for
raising a family or volunteering to help others. In other words,
a massive amount of wealth will be available, and politicians
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will decide who gets what. They will route it to
cronies and keep a fair amount for themselves. It will
just be you know, uncountable scads of money. Now there
are critics, not all of Silicon Valley is on board.
Here's David Autor, labor economist, and MIT said the hypothetical
society in which the majority of income has distributed from
a few sources is frightening in a political fantasy land.
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AI leaders support universal income because quote, they think they're
gonna put everyone out of work and they don't have
a better idea for what to do about that.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
He said, this, Yeah, this is a that's a This
whole thing you've described is completely unworkable.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
In any realistic sense.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
So I is anybody thinking about this?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Is Congress thinking about this? They should be if they're not. Interestingly,
venture capitalist Marc Andreesen is my man in this. Uh.
He says that man was meant to be useful, to
be p ductive, to be proud, And if AI transforms
every job, that's going to be a serious, serious challenge.
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That's the big world's biggest understatement, serious challenge. Yeah, I'd
say maybe the end of mankind might be closer. All right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
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