September 9, 2025 • 9 mins
On the Tuesday September 9, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing podcast...
- From winning to living, Charlie Sheen talks about his live--including the infamous Tiger Blood Era.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You win an oscar and it's all downhill from there.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm strong and getty, one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Charlie Sheen won an oscar when he was like twenty
And which movie was at full middle jacket? Is that
the one he was in one of those war news
platoon that's it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I can't swear that's right, for the sounds right.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then he was, at the time of his crack up,
or right before it, the highest paid actor in all
of television, back when people still watched television, as the
start two and a half Men, which was a hilarious show.
Then he went off the rails with the drug addiction
and all kinds of different stuff and waring, hooring and
being crazy online. He's got a memoir out and he
(00:56):
is he's our age sixty and he did a big
documentary for Netflix, and he sat down with Good Morning
America and didn't interview with Michael Strahan And here's a
little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What do you think when you look back there, do
you recognize yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Don't know who that is? And that's not a cop
out or I don't know what part of me that
came from.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's like there's a possession going on. I'm like, you know,
compleading with that version of me to just dude cat stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it was funny because so many voices were telling
him that at the time. But that's the nature of addiction.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I guess, roll on, do you have any regret?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I do, but I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There's no value in them, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I guess the only way to deal with it is
just to not ever do anything or allow myself to
wind up in a situation where that's a message I
want to send to the world in that capacity, because
there's probably a lot of people out there that's don't
only know me from those viral clips a guy screening
(02:04):
Tiger Blood and winning and all this other nonsense, right,
and not set the record straight, but say no, no, no,
that was a moment in a really long career where
things just went off the freaking rails.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I would imagine in the Netflix special they play a
lot of those viral clips that we played the heck
out of back in the day, when every day he
would release like a video that would be on YouTube
of him just completely out of his mind.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, well, obviously he was complicit in it and enthusiastically
participating in it. But can you imagine your most out
of control moments and days being broadcast to the world.
I can see why he looks and wants people to
know I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
He talks about the section the drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you say sex went hand in hand with your
drug use. It did, yeah, and and wanting to try
as you you framed it quote other side of the menu,
which for some people out there and mean, what's the
other side of the menu that's sleeping with men and you?
But you said you've been honest about it now, But
(03:16):
why did you keep a sequence for so long? Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, because there there was another element to it that
it did come with with it with a tremendous amount
of extortion. And so at the time I was just like,
all right, let's just just just pay to keep it
quiet and then just hope it just stays over there
(03:44):
and make it go away, you know, just make it
go away.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And then you were just paying people not to yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Because they they would have they had video things or
whatever and had stuff over me. So that was kind
of held hostage, you know, And it's just the that's
a bad feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's interesting. I don't remember. Did he get himself into
financial trouble because he was making insane money obviously as
the highest paid actor in off television. Did he like
even remember? I don't remember either, because my question anytime
celebrities do these sorts of things where they reveal all
(04:23):
these past this and that, you know, why are you
Why did you keep it a secret for so so long?
The better question is why are you telling anybody now
other than maybe a therapist. I mean, you don't need
to tell me that you were sleeping with dudes for
a while when you were.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Out of your mind on drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't need to know that. So are you telling
this just to make money off of a Netflix special?
Did Netflix give you fifteen million dollars to tell this story?
Is that why you're doing it?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You could make the argument that, I mean, if you're
a straight guy and you're so effed up on crack
and meth, which in particular make you want to horn
out with whatever person or object or beast happens to
be handy, it's worth telling this story. I think. I
don't think that's out of line. I see your point,
(05:06):
and generally I agree with you on that stuff, but
he's just talking about how he was out of control.
And also, I think you know, now, I'm sure I'm
I agree with myself because there's a real element of
laying down with dogs and waking up with fleas because
he was with the hardcore druggy party sex crowd and
they all tried to extort him.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I suppose if he didn't mention that part in
the documentary, one of these probably scumbag He's probably hanging
around with some really low life people. Oh yeah, one
of them would have come forward and said it, so
they need to had to answer to it, So why
not just get it out?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, yeah, and I just like him saying, hey, this
is part of it. By the way, all of your
friends who are just fellow druggies, we're gonna screw you
and steal from you every way they can think of.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I do have one semi important thing to say this,
I think, but one more clip.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Twenty fifteen, she publicly revealed that he was HIV positive.
That that was a tremendous relief.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That felt like, okay, all right, there's that not now
I can focus on some other things.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That was ten years ago. That was twenty fifteen. You're right,
how you feeling now? I felt pretty good. She says
he stopped using drugs in twenty fifteen, and that he
has now been completely sober for nearly eight years. What
was the final straw? It was, well, my body was
starting to reject it.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I talk about that in the book, you know, literal
really like turning inside out.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That was a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh. I remember what his teeth looked like when you
got some of those close picture his teeth.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
That's bad.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh, that was horrible. There's a clip, oh, we don't have,
but I read it yesterday where he talked about how
he'd really felt like his dad had betrayed him because
his dad actually signed off on some legal something that
allowed the police to go into Charlie house, which ended
up in his arrest, and which led to him getting
(07:06):
off drugs, which led to him being able to get
sober and stay sober. And he really really thought his
dad had betrayed him, and he now knows that it
was the dad doing what he should do for his
son and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Thanks him and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And the thing I was going to point out
is Charlie Sheen sounds to me like a guy who's
legitimately sober and can stay sober, as there was no
blaming anybody but himself any of those clips, as opposed
to Hunter Biden, who every time gets asked a question anything,
it's a yeah, but what would you do if the
if people had done this to you? I mean, it's
(07:43):
always that sort of angle, which I'm I'd be shocked
if Hunter's actually sober, and I don't see how he's
going to stay sober with that attitude. He's still blaming
people for his behavior.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, absolutely true. Wow, that is a contrast.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because Charlie is saying, yeah, lots of regrets. I don't see,
I don't know if it's going to be do me
any good to dwell on them. But whereas Hunter never
has that sort of tude.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, No, he has people who drove him to it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, I'll watch. I will actually watch this documentary.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Probably I will too, just because of the beloved catchphrases.
It came from his off the rails, almost dying, getting aids,
et cetera period.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's amazing HIV anyway, it's amazing that he lived through that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, winning.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Living.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Most people who do that do not live. I wonder
how much of that was just maybe he had enough
money that he could get the right medical help at
the right time. Of course, so did Matthew Perry. And
Matthew Perry's dead as I am or well, and fentanyl
didn't exist at the right He missed the fentanyl thing,
or he would be dead. That is exactly right. Because
(08:54):
he was doing so much drugs with so many different people,
he would have come across ventanyl just by uh, you know,
sure randomness.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, and I got poetry at my fingertips. That's you
got that going for you. Well, I'm not Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He was a pussy.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
There you go. Those are the days.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Man's opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
We had good times back then. Every day the Charlie
Sheen update, it was fun times. Well, I guess that's it. Well,
we all have to sit in here and touch ourselves
and frown.
You win an oscar and it's all downhill from there.
It's one more thing.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm strong and getty, one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Charlie Sheen won an oscar when he was like twenty
And which movie was at full middle jacket? Is that
the one he was in one of those war news
platoon that's it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I can't swear that's right, for the sounds right.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And then he was, at the time of his crack up,
or right before it, the highest paid actor in all
of television, back when people still watched television, as the
start two and a half Men, which was a hilarious show.
Then he went off the rails with the drug addiction
and all kinds of different stuff and waring, hooring and
being crazy online. He's got a memoir out and he
(00:56):
is he's our age sixty and he did a big
documentary for Netflix, and he sat down with Good Morning
America and didn't interview with Michael Strahan And here's a
little bit of that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
What do you think when you look back there, do
you recognize yourself?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Don't know who that is? And that's not a cop
out or I don't know what part of me that
came from.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's weird.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
It's like there's a possession going on. I'm like, you know,
compleading with that version of me to just dude cat stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it was funny because so many voices were telling
him that at the time. But that's the nature of addiction.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I guess, roll on, do you have any regret?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I do, but I can't.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
There's no value in them, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I guess the only way to deal with it is
just to not ever do anything or allow myself to
wind up in a situation where that's a message I
want to send to the world in that capacity, because
there's probably a lot of people out there that's don't
only know me from those viral clips a guy screening
(02:04):
Tiger Blood and winning and all this other nonsense, right,
and not set the record straight, but say no, no, no,
that was a moment in a really long career where
things just went off the freaking rails.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I would imagine in the Netflix special they play a
lot of those viral clips that we played the heck
out of back in the day, when every day he
would release like a video that would be on YouTube
of him just completely out of his mind.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, well, obviously he was complicit in it and enthusiastically
participating in it. But can you imagine your most out
of control moments and days being broadcast to the world.
I can see why he looks and wants people to
know I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
He talks about the section the drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And you say sex went hand in hand with your
drug use. It did, yeah, and and wanting to try
as you you framed it quote other side of the menu,
which for some people out there and mean, what's the
other side of the menu that's sleeping with men and you?
But you said you've been honest about it now, But
(03:16):
why did you keep a sequence for so long? Sure?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, because there there was another element to it that
it did come with with it with a tremendous amount
of extortion. And so at the time I was just like,
all right, let's just just just pay to keep it
quiet and then just hope it just stays over there
(03:44):
and make it go away, you know, just make it
go away.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And then you were just paying people not to yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Because they they would have they had video things or
whatever and had stuff over me. So that was kind
of held hostage, you know, And it's just the that's
a bad feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's interesting. I don't remember. Did he get himself into
financial trouble because he was making insane money obviously as
the highest paid actor in off television. Did he like
even remember? I don't remember either, because my question anytime
celebrities do these sorts of things where they reveal all
(04:23):
these past this and that, you know, why are you
Why did you keep it a secret for so so long?
The better question is why are you telling anybody now
other than maybe a therapist. I mean, you don't need
to tell me that you were sleeping with dudes for
a while when you were.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Out of your mind on drugs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I don't need to know that. So are you telling
this just to make money off of a Netflix special?
Did Netflix give you fifteen million dollars to tell this story?
Is that why you're doing it?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You could make the argument that, I mean, if you're
a straight guy and you're so effed up on crack
and meth, which in particular make you want to horn
out with whatever person or object or beast happens to
be handy, it's worth telling this story. I think. I
don't think that's out of line. I see your point,
(05:06):
and generally I agree with you on that stuff, but
he's just talking about how he was out of control.
And also, I think you know, now, I'm sure I'm
I agree with myself because there's a real element of
laying down with dogs and waking up with fleas because
he was with the hardcore druggy party sex crowd and
they all tried to extort him.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I suppose if he didn't mention that part in
the documentary, one of these probably scumbag He's probably hanging
around with some really low life people. Oh yeah, one
of them would have come forward and said it, so
they need to had to answer to it, So why
not just get it out?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Well, yeah, and I just like him saying, hey, this
is part of it. By the way, all of your
friends who are just fellow druggies, we're gonna screw you
and steal from you every way they can think of.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I do have one semi important thing to say this,
I think, but one more clip.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Twenty fifteen, she publicly revealed that he was HIV positive.
That that was a tremendous relief.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
That felt like, okay, all right, there's that not now
I can focus on some other things.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That was ten years ago. That was twenty fifteen. You're right,
how you feeling now? I felt pretty good. She says
he stopped using drugs in twenty fifteen, and that he
has now been completely sober for nearly eight years. What
was the final straw? It was, well, my body was
starting to reject it.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I talk about that in the book, you know, literal
really like turning inside out.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That was a mess.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh. I remember what his teeth looked like when you
got some of those close picture his teeth.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
That's bad.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Oh, that was horrible. There's a clip, oh, we don't have,
but I read it yesterday where he talked about how
he'd really felt like his dad had betrayed him because
his dad actually signed off on some legal something that
allowed the police to go into Charlie house, which ended
up in his arrest, and which led to him getting
(07:06):
off drugs, which led to him being able to get
sober and stay sober. And he really really thought his
dad had betrayed him, and he now knows that it
was the dad doing what he should do for his
son and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Thanks him and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, And the thing I was going to point out
is Charlie Sheen sounds to me like a guy who's
legitimately sober and can stay sober, as there was no
blaming anybody but himself any of those clips, as opposed
to Hunter Biden, who every time gets asked a question anything,
it's a yeah, but what would you do if the
if people had done this to you? I mean, it's
(07:43):
always that sort of angle, which I'm I'd be shocked
if Hunter's actually sober, and I don't see how he's
going to stay sober with that attitude. He's still blaming
people for his behavior.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, absolutely true. Wow, that is a contrast.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Because Charlie is saying, yeah, lots of regrets. I don't see,
I don't know if it's going to be do me
any good to dwell on them. But whereas Hunter never
has that sort of tude.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, No, he has people who drove him to it.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, I'll watch. I will actually watch this documentary.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Probably I will too, just because of the beloved catchphrases.
It came from his off the rails, almost dying, getting aids,
et cetera period.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's amazing HIV anyway, it's amazing that he lived through that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, winning.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Living.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Most people who do that do not live. I wonder
how much of that was just maybe he had enough
money that he could get the right medical help at
the right time. Of course, so did Matthew Perry. And
Matthew Perry's dead as I am or well, and fentanyl
didn't exist at the right He missed the fentanyl thing,
or he would be dead. That is exactly right. Because
(08:54):
he was doing so much drugs with so many different people,
he would have come across ventanyl just by uh, you know,
sure randomness.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, and I got poetry at my fingertips. That's you
got that going for you. Well, I'm not Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
He was a pussy.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
There you go. Those are the days.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Man's opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
We had good times back then. Every day the Charlie
Sheen update, it was fun times. Well, I guess that's it. Well,
we all have to sit in here and touch ourselves
and frown.
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