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October 8, 2025 36 mins

Hour 3 of A&G features...

  • Crazed pro Hamas protesters & living under Islam
  • Attempted attack on Supreme Court Justices
  • Katie Porter's disastrous interview
  • Conversion therapy ban & free speech

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Getty Armstrong, and and he Armstrong and Yetty, I think
you're right.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
I think we've got a Dodgers Brewers NLCS edit.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
Our ways are in the National League. Now, oh, NLCS,
you said, yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be a whale of
a series.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Well, and you got the biggest media market in the
entire country versus one of the very smallest.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
So that's right.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Coming up, they caught a nut job, thank god, who
is waiting outside a church where all of the Supreme
Court justices were supposed to show up for mass He
had two hundred bombs with clams can kill them all.
And we'll get to that story coming up next segment.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Also in breaking news, a Cabinet secretary has dropped a
pea bomb on live TV. Christin nom called the leadership
of Portland Pansies. The shocking details coming up. Stay with us.
If you're a non Pansy, you can take it. Also,
the Washington Post in Trent was it the wappo or no?

(01:23):
The journal in trying to explain how the shutdown is
already causing problems made kind of the opposite point.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I want to get to that.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
But first, yesterday around the country, a lot of college campuses,
in a lot of big cities, including New York, there
were big pro Hamas rallies in which the strategies and
tactics and beliefs of Hamas were raw. Rod Well, I
think Israel has gone a little overboard. No no, no, no,

(01:52):
no no no. It was kill all the Jews and
up with Hamas and up with Islam and Islamism over
the country.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's funny how little coverage it's getting.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
It's hard, isn't it. There are a couple of examples.
The first one is fairly calm. It's an interview of
a woman in a hijab, young woman looks to be
a college age maybe a little older, being asked about
October seventh and its legacy, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
I think freedom will be achieved when the Israelis go
back to where they were born, which is probably America.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Poland, So you mean leaving the state of Israel? Is
that what you mean?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You don't believe in a state of Israel.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Nah, And I don't understand why Jewish students might feel
uncomfortable without out.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
In the Countisi, then.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
No, I don't.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
I mean, I understand why they might feel like that,
but I don't think that their feelings are valid.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And there you go, there's the problem.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
Imagine if that was said about anybody else, there'd be
utter hell to pay. Are these protests on this day,
the second anniversary of one of the worst terrorist atrocities
this century committed against.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Israeli mint it against Jews by an.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
Organization that has said it wants to carry out the
same attack day after day. Are these protests, to use
the PM's words, Unbritish because they show and again I'm
quoting so little respect for others. And that's before some
of them decide to start chanting hatred towards Jewish people
all over again.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
End quote.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, I think there you have an example of it.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm afraid, clearly from Great Britain. A reference to the
fact that if anybody says anything even slightly critical about
Islam or Islamism in Britain, they are likely to get
paid a visit by the police if they posted their
thoughts online. Europe. Britain in particular is terrified of Islamists

(03:44):
and is bowing before them. That's the long and short
of it, because they can get away with things no
other group could could possibly get away with, which.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Is greatly true. That's not even like a close call.
I mean, if you've been following the stories at all,
you say something at anti trains or anti Islam in
a tweet and the police will come to your door.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You might go to jail.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
You can march in the street declaring all Jews must die.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
And nothing happens, right right, Yeah, does anybody know clip
eighty seven where that's from, where that rally is? Anybody?
Maybe we can figure it out. But this is a
speaker at a very large rally yesterday.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Read it not acting up. We did not acting up.
We're being up to me.

Speaker 9 (04:31):
We did not acting up. If we acted it up
the headline behind you and read that's been literalated.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Our work is not done.

Speaker 10 (04:48):
I shut up.

Speaker 9 (04:51):
Were all good than we did the first ducts over seven,
louder than we.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Did the first ducks over U many get clear, we
are not going anywhere. We will keep fighting.

Speaker 9 (05:10):
Until Palestine is free, up the river.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
To the sea, our lifetime. That's in New York.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
To phrased young cultists in New York vowing a Bigger,
Stronger October seventh.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's the biggest population of Jewish people in the world
outside of Israel, New York City, and that guy is
standing up on a stool chanting that with people cheering
him in Freeing New York. You got a small.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Number of jackass white supremacists walking through Charlottesville and a
giant counter demonstration that dwarfed their numbers, and the world
came to a stop.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
New York Time t i'ms Washington Post, all of you people,
what do you have to say? You liars?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
That's the best ab of this that I've seen. I mean,
that guy in New York City from the river to
the sea means you want Jews to die or go
somewhere else. And it doesn't get it doesn't get any
reaction whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
And we're we the Israelis, somebody the US is supposed
to come to an agreement with these people.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
White hicks in somewhere saying we will not be replaced.
National crisis causes Joe Biden run for president.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
So we've talked about the Red Green Alliance a little bit,
the weird coming together of the radical leftist like Marxist
types and Islamists and the history of that, especially in
the twentieth century. You know, with Iran, the Marxists got

(07:02):
together with the Islamist which we're about to talk about,
and then the folks who actually came up with critical
theory and the whole dei thing. Michelle Fico, French philosopher.
It was all about bringing down modern liberalism and Western society.
And those people openly said, hey, you're against Western society,

(07:24):
we're against Western society.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
We will join with you.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
We will play down your excesses, we'll claim their lies
from fascists, and we'll work together. And then, like all revolutionaries,
they figured they would probably get the spoils when the
revolution was over and they would vanquish the other side,
which is how revolutions go. But it's that's how you
end up with queers for Palestine or transgenders for Palestine.

(07:50):
It not only doesn't make any sense, it's the opposite
of making sense. It's a bizarre teaming up. And here's
an Iranian refugee explain it how worked in Iran.

Speaker 10 (08:01):
I'm a political refugee from Iran. I've been to Prism,
I've been under Islamic law and I know how it starts,
and I know how it ends, and it always starts
with the for some reason, unity of left and Islamists,
and it scares me.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
So I came here to be free.

Speaker 10 (08:23):
I chose Canada as my second home to be a
live in a free country. And I'm beginning to get
really scared because the way things are going, it looks
like they're going to basically appease Islamists just to not
raise any rockets or something. They're just going to appease

(08:44):
them step by step, and they're not going to stop.
They see it as a sign of weakness, so they're
going to take more and more, and I'm against that.
I believe Canada should be free and freedom of speech
is something that nobody can take.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
The college crowd always joins with thel Islam, and then
he got a.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Pretty big block.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah yeah, and the Islamists rally the Islamic supremacist part
of Islam in obvious ways.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
And then the Marxist.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
The neo Marxist technique is you get every single group
with any sort of gripe, from I'm transgender to I'm
really overweight, and I believe in body positivity or fat acceptance.
And just every gripe you can imagine racial minorities, sexual
minorities and get them all to come together in the

(09:37):
eternal omni cause. And then you join together with Islamists
because you all agree that you need to overthrow civilization.
Then you end up with an absolute nut job. Like
we played what was the last hour or two hours ago?
I almost want to hear that again, just that clip eighty.
This is at a big rally, man on the street interview.

Speaker 11 (10:00):
So is this this is the.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Translact, this is the Palestinian flag mixed with the Transitlanian.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, what do you say to those who say that
trans people would be killed in Palestine?

Speaker 6 (10:09):
I mean, I don't know about that, but I know
that I'm standing here today. At least fifty percent of
the Gazan government needs to be trans women like Muhammed himself.
Muhammad herself was head sacked a trans lesbian.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Muhammad was a woman.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, Islam is.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
A trans idea, it's a trans religion. It's Mohammad herself
was a proud trans lesbian.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
And Iran the morality police and also in Gaza they
kill trans people, Like.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Do you think that that's not true or I mean,
I think they're secretly Jews if they do that, right, So,
no Muslim would actually do that.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I hope that poor confused little fella doesn't end up
with his throat cut. I mean, because there are plenty
of militant Muslims who would hear that and kill him
for it. I mean, Solomon Rushdie, we all know his story. Yeah. Boy,

(11:08):
these people are so incredibly profoundly misguided it it boggles
the imagination.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
It really really does. You can almost picture him, you know,
asking somebody, what about the hole I hear about Muslims
don't like gay people or whatever?

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Is that true?

Speaker 11 (11:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:26):
No, no, no, Islam is a is a pro gay religion.
In fact, Mohammed was a trans woman.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh okay, cool. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
The people who are using you, useless idiots, know precisely
what they're doing, and they are they have nothing but
contempt for you.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
But you're useful to them. That guy is an idiot.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
You're a poor, little, confused fella who was masquerading barely
as a woman. I can just picture him being dragged
away to the torture chambers saying I was with you,
I support you.

Speaker 10 (11:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Uh, thank god.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
So many of these people are crazy that they're too
crazy to pull off their crimes. Of course, the guy
killed Charlie Kirk was a little crazy and he was
able to pull it off. The guy tried to kill
Trump was dang crazy and came close enough. We got
an example coming up. A guy got arrested just two
days ago in front Okay, go ahead, sorry, he's trying
to take out the entire Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, good lord. Just one encouraging note.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's great to see the working class in Britain rising
up and saying, no, elites, no, you've been lying to
us all along.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You're in league with these people or not having it.
We want England back.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
And of course they're portrayed as bigots and soccer hooligans
and the rest of it. But to me it's encouraging
people are standing up.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
This could lead to some serious violence in the streets.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Well, the that's see, that's you're right, you're one hundred
percent right.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
But that's the sentiment that has guided the elites and saying,
don't resist them at all. Don't don't if they want
to do Sharia courts and sharid divorcees and all, we'll
just suspend our laws.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
For Muslims, just don't make them angry.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Regular people get say. At some point things are gonna
turn really ugly. Okay, we got a lot on the way.
It's gonna be interesting. Stay hear.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Well.

Speaker 12 (13:09):
I read that the air traffic controller shortages is causing
delays at major airports like Denver, LA and Newark. In
response to those airports have released statements. For example, Denver
Airport said, we apologize for the fight delays caused by
staffing shortages and appreciate your patience. LA's Birdbank Airport said
we know that delays are frustrating. We're sorry, and we
promised to be at full capacity soon. And finally Newark

(13:32):
Airport said, oh you thought things were bad before.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Buffle Up, Princess, we barely had air traffic control to
begin with.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Now we're not getting paid. You want to take off,
we accept cash, Beno and Van Juice anyway before you fight?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
If I want to rewatch the movie Sully A take no.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow Wow.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And of course the UH News nugget that they while
they're technically not being paid, in reality they are being
paid and that they haven't had they have missed a check,
yet the check comes out on the fourteenth, and if
the shutdown ends before then.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
They'll get their pay in the normal schedule. Nothing will
have changed.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
We can't go to work because I got child care
duties and car payments is completely bogus, all.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Right, so is amplified by the media. Yep.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
So coming up this woman that i'd forgotten her name,
barely know who she is, Katie Porter, who is like
the leading candidate to be governor of California, which is
a very big deal. She's a Democrat, obviously, she had
an interview that just went haywire yesterday may have doomed her.
And it's it's all about these people in a one
party state have never been questioned before, and she handles

(14:44):
it very poorly.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
We'll get to that next segment quite entertaining.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
So there is humor to be had in this next story,
although it could have been very, very non humorous if
the guy had been successful and for instance, killed all
nine Supreme Court justices with his homemade bombs.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Good God, that would have been a dark, dark day.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
It definitely seems like half a lunatic, but oftentimes successful
saboteur's murderers terrorists are crazy. So now that doesn't Negate
the threat anyway, So I had never heard of.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
This, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
But there's something called Red Mass. It's a yearly event,
been going on forever. They have a mass the first
Sunday of a new Supreme Court season at one of
the churches in Washington, d C. And all or some
of the Supreme Court justices usually a tent. It's just
kind of a nice tradition. It's got to be interesting
for the godless crowd that the Supreme Court goes to

(15:37):
mass to kick off the new season. But anyway, this
guy had set up a tent on the steps and
somebody started asking him some questions, like, oh, what's the
delio with the tent here? You can't really have a
tent here. The Metropolitan Police Department showed up and said

(15:57):
what's going on to the guy and he said, he's
a forty one year old bearded dude. Looks crazy. He said,
you might want to stay back and call the federal
as I have explosives. Okay, So the Metro cops immediately
called federal authorities and thought, okay, we got a live
one here. During attempted negotiations with the officers, he handed
them a notebook, and the witch espoused hatred for the

(16:19):
Catholic Church, the Supreme Court, Jews, and Ice. According to
the document, the cathedral was all ramped up for red Mass,
but they immediately ended it. No Supreme Court justices then
showed up and they canceled the mass. While they're trying
to figure it, this guy out and they called the
bomb squad in and said, hey, do you do you

(16:40):
actually have bombs or whatever? The bearded lunatic said, how
much time?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Ichael thirty?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I'm not even gonna get close to the good part
crap I didn't know I got. They got like minutes
worth of great details. Oh well, I can't wait to
hear the rest of them. The way they I guarantee you,
the way they nabbed him is a surprise to this
plot to kill all the Supreme Court justice. We'll pay
that off real quickly when we come back. And then

(17:06):
get to a candidate blowing up their own opportunity to
be governor of California. Armstrong and Getty.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Did the top.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Candidate to be governor of California completely derail their campaign
in an interview that went haywire. We'll play that for
you in just a little bit, but I wanted to
finish off this story because it's got a pretty amazing ending.
So a guy is in front of a church in Washington,

(17:38):
d C. Sunday for something called Red Mass, first Sunday
of the new Supreme Court session. The Supreme Court justices
come to this mass and the guy had a tent
set up there, and police show up and say, yo,
what are you doing here? He can't be here, He said,
I've got explosives, and you know, I hate the Supreme
Court and I hate ice, and I hate all kinds

(17:58):
of different things. And so it goes from there. They
bring in the bomb squad for obvious reasons. By the way,
it turns out that he has what seemed to be
functional weapons, and he's being charged with threatening to use
a weapon of mass destruction. That's what he's being charged with,
so it you know, it's not a not serious thing.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
In an effort to de escalate, so the guy is
in his tent, he says, he's got all these bombs.
You better back off or a bunch of people are
gonna die, so uh, please show please go up and
talk to him and agree to read from his notebook
to try to calm things down, so he hands him
a notebook through the tent flap. There in front of
the church. The Supreme Court has been called off. Coming

(18:41):
to the church, mass has been called off at this point.
The notebook was titled written Negotiations for the Avoidance of
Destruction of Property via Detonation of Explosives. Okay. The sergeant
opened the tent flap after noticing a buttane lighter and
another object in his hand. He said, all right, if
you want to do it, let's do it now, like
I'm gonna blow you all up, and then they backed
off again. He proceeded to pull out multiple captive vials

(19:03):
containing yellow liquid with explosive tape to him. Turns out
to be the same stuff that the Oklahoma City bomber
used that took down the big federal building there and
killed a whole bunch of people. Step away, there's gonna
be deads. Police retreated to a far enough away. The
guy opens up the tent flap, walks over to a

(19:23):
tree and urinates. They run over and arrest him. Oh boy, wow,
did not see that coming. Now, how's that ferent ending?

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I and he already got a bunch of tubes with
yellow liquid in him to the math brother, So you're
in there. This is your big moment, you know, and
you got all your your made your weapons of mass
destruction and all this different sort of stuff.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
This is your big moment.

Speaker 13 (19:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Do I gotta whiz? There's a tree right over there.
Did he think as soon as the cops ran at
him while he's whizzing behind the tree, did he think, Oh,
why didn't I think of that?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
All right? The cops, the cops. I forgot that right.
I can't leave the tents or I'll get a rest.
What I mean? Honestly, he's one brand of crazy or another.
But he kind of had the leftist list. Yep, he
was against the Supreme Court and Jews and Catholics. Who
else ice?

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, and he you know, doesn't mean he couldn't
have been successful. So I'll see what the charges end
up being or how serious that turns out to be.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh sing to the Supreme Court just real quickly? Hanson did?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Were he able to get the audio I wanted from
Katanji Brown Jackson. I listened to about a third of
the oral arguments yesterday. I listened to the rest today.
About that the Salazar case in Colorado about the horrific
Colorado law that says you can't even if the kid
wants to, you can't talk to a boy about staying
a boy because that would be conversion therapy.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
It's bizarre.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
But anyway, Old KJB asks a couple of questions. I'm like,
did you even go to undergrad never mind law school?

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (21:02):
Really?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I Carumba.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Okay, So you've never heard of Katie Porter. I barely have.
And I live, you know, in California and fall of
politics for a living if you live somewhere else in
the country. Anyway, she is one of the leading candidates
to be governor of California. She's a Democrat. You're gonna
have to be a Democrat to win. Obviously. She had
an interview go Sideways yesterday.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Charles C. W.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Cook I came across the link to the interview on
his site. Lots of people were forwarding it around because
it went really poorly. As you're about to hear, but
Charlie Cook said, is Katie Porter the least likable politician
in the entire world? She makes Elizabeth Warren seem like
Dolly Parton. Anyway, she sits down for an interview, and

(21:45):
this is how it goes.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?

Speaker 14 (21:53):
How would I need them in order to win?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, you think you'll get sixty for all,
everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's what you're in a general election.

Speaker 14 (22:05):
Yes, if it is me versus a Republican, I think
that I will win the people who did not vote
for Trump.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
What if it's you versus another Democrat?

Speaker 14 (22:12):
I don't intend that to be the case.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So how do you not intend that to be the case?

Speaker 13 (22:17):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Are you going to ask them not to run?

Speaker 6 (22:19):
No?

Speaker 14 (22:19):
No, I'm saying I'm going to build the support. I
have the support already in terms of name recognition, and
so I'm going to do the very best I can
to make sure that we get through this primary in
a really strong position. But let me be clear with you.
I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area. I
have stood on my own two feet and one Republican
votes before. That's not something every candidate and this race
can say if you're from a deep blue area, if

(22:40):
you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't have
an experience.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
You just said you don't need those.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Trump voters, So you asked me if I needed them
to win?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Okay, And this is where it goes sideways a little bit.

Speaker 14 (22:52):
You don't I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative?

Speaker 13 (22:54):
What is your question?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power grab. Every other candidate has answered this question, this is.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Not and I said I support it.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So and the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?

Speaker 14 (23:13):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question aswer. The question is you
haven't written and all answer.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win? And you're saying no, you don't.

Speaker 14 (23:26):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that,
well to those voters. Okay, so you I don't want
to keep doing this, I'm going to call it.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Thank you. You're not going to do the interview with them.

Speaker 14 (23:41):
Nope, not like this. I'm not not with seven follow
ups to every single question you ask.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Every other candidate has.

Speaker 14 (23:46):
I don't care.

Speaker 10 (23:47):
I don't care.

Speaker 14 (23:48):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question you're going to make up a follow up question,
then we're never going to get there and we're just
going to circle.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
Had to do this before ever, you've never had had an.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
What part of I'm me? I'm running for governor because
I'm a leader, So I am going to make.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
And it goes on for quite a while. I was
enjoying it, I know.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And yeah, so I think, well, I think that hurt
her a lot. And you know, in one party state
politics doesn't change. There are other people that want to
be governor that are Democrats, that are going to tear
her apart over that.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Yeah, but unless she has been anointed by the the
public employee unions is their choice, then they dare not true.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's a good point, but as Joe pointed out earlier,
what's going on there is in a one party state.
She's never been questioned before, in a one party state
with a impliant media that agrees that the Democrats should
run everything, She's never had to answer any questions before.
So I've never had to do this before to end
an interview. It's because you've never really done any interviews.

(25:12):
You've never had to, and you're hoping to cruiz into
being governor.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Without ever having to.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Yes, she's never had an adversarial conversation with a member
of the media, which is why Gavin Newsom is I
just can't wait till he's actually running for president because
he's he's a college team that has only had inter
squad scrimmages and imagines he's ready for the Rose Bowl
or whatever, and he's just gonna get obliterated when he

(25:37):
goes up against actual opposition. And Katie Borders the same thing.
She is the anointed, you know, the choice of the
unions and attorneys that run state of California.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
This is I realize, sensitive and mean, and you shouldn't
vote for people based on how they look, and I
would never but her advanced team did her no favors
in the angle of the shot for the interview.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Oh oh, oh, I don't think we need to go there.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Well, I'm just saying if it's me, I mean I
have more flattering angles and I have less flattering angles.
In fact, there are many many unflattering angles. But if
I was running, I would say, how about we put
the camera over there or over there, but not here?
And she needed to do that with someone.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
When she sits around the capital, when she sits around
the capitol, she sits around the Capitol.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
No, no, no, I was gonna praise you as being
gentlemanly there, I laugh. I should have known better. That
is ridiculous. I disavow. I disavow.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I will eat those Republicans for lunch and dinner breakfast
the next day.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
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simply save home security here? So innovative, so different? You're
old systems which were expensive and crappy, would only like
go off when somebody's already smashed their way inside your house.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
But that's too late.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Real security should stop a crime before it even starts.
And that's why you trust Simply Safe.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, with all the AI cameras and all that sort
of stuff, they can detect a problem before it happens.
They can actually speak to the intruder, like in your
backyard or lurking around the front door or whatever it is.
That's really cool.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've got the.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Cameras and the sensors and all that sort of stuff.
Simply Safe is the best. Hey, and it's a money
back guarantee. I mean, you know you can return it
if you want to, so why not try it out?

Speaker 2 (27:33):
I swear I would do that job for no pay
for Simply Safe.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
You know, the AI cameras alert me and I see
there's the Armstrong house and there's some scumbag junkie about
to climb in the window. I would do this job
for free. Hey, jackass, Yeah, I'm talking to you. Hey,
how about you give up the drugs and get a
job like normal people. What are your grandparents thinking, you scumbag?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Huh? I like that?

Speaker 13 (27:57):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I like that make them feel bad about theirselves. I
see you lurking in the bush as you loser.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
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Speaker 3 (28:23):
I got go with the long discussion. See you see
them lurking in the bushes. So hey, sir, I can
see out there and you're hoping to break into this house.
So what are you open to get five ten thousand
dollars worth of stuff?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh, let's know, that.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Would be a huge that'd be a dream come true. Yeah, right,
probably gonna get Maybe you get a grand worth of stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
What are you gonna do with that?

Speaker 3 (28:44):
What are you gonna retire to an island for the
rest of your life on one thousand dollars?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
No, man, I'm gonna score. I got a score.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
So your drug addict, in other words, is that what
you're telling me? I suggest you get some sort of
help and get off the drugs.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
You know, the city I live in make them like
super comfortable to be a junkie, and so we just
wake up and get high, then go eat a free
meal and get high more and nobody ever hassles us.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Man, that would be the actual answer. I really enjoy
being high, and thus far there's no reason for me
not to be high all day.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Right, there are no disincentives for my aberant behavior.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's working out pretty well for me, to be honest,
would you do today? Get up and go to work.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I'm working. I'm gonna give When.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Katie was checking out at the grocery store and a
bunch of thieves were carrying out armloads of goods and said,
y'all paying in the line.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Are suckers, and it's hard not to feel like one.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Other than that, you know, you have to have a
working society.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
And then I would have to just go with well,
the cops are on their way and they're going to
whack you in the head with a stick and then
put you in jail, So enjoy your whacking. Having been
discouraged by my discussion with the junkie boy and realizing
that society is turned toward lawlessness.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
It certainly blue blue places.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
I think he would be good at that job, yelling
at people who are about to break into homes.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Oh again, I mean it was like when Babe Ruth
first stepped on a baseball field. I'm where I'm meant
to be. It's a beautiful dream.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
We've got a lot more on the way.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Stay here, arm Strong.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
And one of the things I've been dealing with all
day here in Portland is a bunch of pansies that
are elected into political office who won't make a decision
to keep their citizens safe. This mayor is going to
wait until somebody gets violently hurt or killed. He's going
to have blood on his hands because he sat around
and thought too long, because he's too scared of the
political ramifications of making a big decision to keep his

(30:40):
city safe.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
They're calling it pansy Gate.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Christy Nome, the Secretary of something or other saying Portland's
elected a bunch of pansies to their leaderships.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Terrible skirt, her.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Long, luxurious hair flowing over her shoulders.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
As she does her interviews, and the pansy's looking on
with tears brimming in their eyes. It was terrible, terrible
moment speaking of women in politics. I listened to as
I said, about a third of the oral arguments and
the horrific Salazar case First Amendment case before the Supreme
Court or the State of Colorado has a law that says,
if a confused adolescent comes to you and says, I'm

(31:15):
starting to think maybe I ought to become a girl,
you are expressly allowed by the state to say, I
think that's a good idea, let's help you become a girl.
But you are forbidden by state law as a counselor
to say, let's talk about this, because a lot of
boys feel these things but end up being happy they're boys.

(31:35):
Even if the kid comes to you and says I
need some counseling because this is weird and I'm not
comfortable with it, you are not allowed to say that.
And the Supreme and the Tenth Circuit Court, to their
eternal shame and discredit, agreed with the State of Colorado
and said, no, that's just like saying a medical doctor
can't like cut off your healthy finger. It's a regulation,

(31:55):
and the Supreme Court was not really hearing it. But
Catangi Brown Jackson got her chance to ask questions. And
here's how it went.

Speaker 13 (32:03):
As I understated, the First Amendment protects the communication of messages, expression,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Am I right about that?

Speaker 13 (32:10):
I mean, you're communicating and that's what the First Amendment
is about?

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
So I guess I'm still okay. So I'm thinking, as
I listened to that, you just asked them. So there
are three branches of government right in fifty states?

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Am I right about that?

Speaker 4 (32:32):
And I'm thinking, Okay, that's a kind of embarrassing, you know, opening,
But surely she's working towards some subtlety of the First Amendment.

Speaker 13 (32:42):
Just struggling with whether a therapist who is acting in
their professional capacity to help someone achieve their goals, is
really expressing the kind of message or expressing a message
for First Amendment purposes. I mean, I understand if MS
Child's here were writing an article about conversion therapy or

(33:04):
writing or giving a speech about it. But it's just
a little puzzling to me that she would stand in
a different position than a medical professional who has exactly
the same goals, exactly the same interests, and would just
be prescribing medication for that rather than her talking with

(33:25):
the client.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
First of all, the attorney knocks that one out of
the park, as he should, but she seriously just asked,
is like a conversation protected speech?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Or is it just like articles and stuff.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Ignoring or being unaware of hundreds of years of First
Amendment precedence.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean, that's an insane thing to ask. Are conversations
protected by the Constitution?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Is she doing the like rhetorical thing of you know,
you're like setting up a point by asking obvious questions
and getting the person say yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Oh yeah, that's what I was kind of hoping. But no,
then she has the attorney answer her question. But so
she seemed to actually wonder whether a conversation was protected speech,
which is really a bizarre question to ask.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Go ahead, roll on, Michael.

Speaker 11 (34:23):
I think that they would have exactly the same goals
because this involves a conversation. Yes, there is a back
and forth. So this court is recognized many times in
cases like McCullen that a one on one conversation is
a form of speech. And that's exactly what's going on
with MS Childs and her clients. So when she engages

(34:45):
in those conversations, she's encouraging them to achieve their goals.
She's discussing concepts of identity and behavior and attractions and
how they fit together. This is an ongoing, active dialogue
where she's helping them to explore their goals, and that
absolutely has to be protected by the first semn.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
So what Kataji Brown Jackson eventually is trying to do
and Kagan did something similar, uh, was was argue that well,
because her goals would be the same as like someone
prescribing a drug, that they she should be bound to
the same you know, like regulations. And the attorney and

(35:26):
the other justices were like, no, dudes, all that's happening
here is conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
It's all speech.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
It's speech and nothing but speech, just because the goal
might be somewhat similar to another doctor who might have
the power to prescribe drugs, which this gal doesn't.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
She's just a licensed counselor.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
They're like, yeah, I don't, I don't know, because that
speech has a goal that's kind of like a medicine.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I don't know if that's protected speech. I was tearing
my hair out, Oh my god, do you think that?
How do you think this is gonna go?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
They'll they'll rule in favor of her.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
It's just a question of I mean, if there are
two or more votes in favor of Colorado, it's it's
a nightmare. It's a First Amendment nightmare that somebody could
end up there.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Wow, that's interesting. We have got more on the way,
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