July 15, 2025 • 36 mins
Hour 3 of A&G features...
- Tough talking Gov. Gavin Newsom
- Witches on Etsy
- Trump's communication with Putin & Zelensky
- Getting a witch on Etsy continued...
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty Armstrong and Katy.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And now he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Vice President JD Vance visited Disneyland over the weekend with
his family. Well that's a good start, but I for
one think he deserves even more punishment.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So that's a knock on Disneylands twist at the end there.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
So what was the Gavin Newsome JD Vance Disneyland story?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, the internet figured out that JD Vance had brought
his wife and kids to Disneyland in the beautiful California,
and Gaffy tweeted, hope you enjoy your family time, jdvans
the families you're tearing apart certainly won't and JD blast
it back, had a great time.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh that's one of my favorite verbal combat jiu jitsu moves.
Somebody blast you then waits for your response. You just
look at.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Him and go back to what you were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Speaking of the governor of California, who was in South
Carolina talking to voters last week for some.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Reason, I think I got over here.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
That's like twenty eight hundred miles away from his state,
continuing to try to build his national cred and cross
into different voting groups. He was on the Sean Ryan
podcast over the weekend. I don't really know Sean Ryan's act.
I know a couple of very trumpy people, though, who
talk about Sean Ryan all the time. He's a big
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deal for that crowd. Maybe you'd know who he is.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So Gavin was on there, and let's listen at that.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
What separates our game from the game played elsewhere is innovation, entrepreneurialism.
More patents, more engineers, more researchers, more nobel laureates in
my state than any damned state, more fortune five hundred
companies in my state than any other state. Look that up,
because I know people are rolling their eyes and say, no,
it's Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You're wrong. It's true. I locked it up.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Number one, it's the most populous state, and number two,
silicon valleys in California. And you've done your best to
drive all businesses, including tech out. But the fact that
you haven't yet succeeded, isn't exactly praiseworthy.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You jump right. You inherited all those things you just said,
and it is diminished since you've been in power.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, you beat the hell out of it more. And we're,
by the way, a donor state.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
We provided eighty three point one billion dollars more than
we received from the federal government. Texas took seventy one
point one billion dollars. I'm not saying that to bash Texas,
but you know what, pretty proud of my goddamn state.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Nine out of ten of the donor.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
States are Trump states, and I don't mean that pejority Trump.
Seven of the ten are Republican states, but nine out
of the ten dependent states welfare states, are Trump states.
The donor states disproportionately in the Blue states. Seventy one
percent of the country's GDP comes from Blue counties, these
same crack up counties with all these crazy liberals that
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can't get out of their own goddamn way, and the
world's come to an end. Wow, it's seventy one percent
of the economy the goddamn country.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Man three times, and that's what the gd bumps. That's
because they're enormously populous, you hack liar. Yeah yeah, New
York City has a bigger GDP than you know, Decatur, Illinois.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, I know, yeah, that one's pretty easily explained in that,
you know, cities are blue, and cities have a bigger
GDP than rural areas.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
That doesn't really, I don't know, explain anything.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Now the whole blue states, Red states donor states versus
take more. I don't know the stats on that. Nothing
is more misleading than statistics. If somebody could explain what's
going on there, I would like to hear it. Well,
it has to do with the size of the state
GDP is that a thing? And how rural it is,
how poor it is are there Indian reservations. It's just
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there are so many things that factor in. Plus, you know,
everybody gets interstate highway money. Wyoming's got no humans and
they get lots and lots of interstate highway money, for instance.
So that was a pretty good a little rift there
to distract from the fact that good luck running on
California's record when all people do is show videos of
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homeless encampments all over the state and the fact that
California is losing human beings for the first time in
its history.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well, now, don't you can get past those two things.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Don't let the vagrants and drug addicts have all of
the spot, like Jack, give some time to the people
sweeping products off the shelves at stores and the products
all being locked up, and you have to beg somebody
for a can of shaving cream because there's so much
crime everything's locked up.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Let's put that in the videos too.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, if you live somewhere where they don't have the
legos locked up at target, it probably seems crazy to you.
But like, everything's locked up at my target, you have
to get some poy with a key to come let
you get your toothpaste because we allow so much crime here.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's nuts. And maybe just as a kicker.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A shot of soiled underpants in the aisle where the
vagrant drug addicts have swapped out their dirty clothes for
new ones they've stolen because there's no repercussion or repercussion
for shoplifting. A tax expert front of the Armstrong and
Getty Show also weighs in, I absolutely hate the donor
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state crap and quotes if you have military, bass, retired military,
more social security recipients, you will quote receive more federal funding.
But it has nothing to do with governors except to
the extent that they're driving old people and veterans to
other states.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I see. Okay, interesting, so as what perfect? This is perfect?
So there was a article came out yesterday and I
got it, but I got enough of it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
In my head.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The most expensive state to retire in in the entire
country is number one out of fifty is California. California
is more expensive than anywhere else to retire to. So
very few people who are going to be receiving Social
Security are going to be retiring in California, right, So
that it's that, your friend.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
There's stats.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
The least expensive state and the entire United States of
America retired to is Kansas. So they're going to receive
They're not going to receive there as much money. I mean, well, retirements,
retirees are gonna go there, and you're gonna receive money
as a red state, you know, sir, There you go.
So that does explain that. That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And keep in mind what percentage of federal budget, I mean,
the overall budget is entitlements.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's most of it. So yeah, that's that's where the
weight is.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Okay, I'm glad somebody explained that. I knew there was
going to be something behind that that made sense and
the gd bombs. Remember we all caught on there was
a memo that went around to Democrats. What it was
it four six months ago to cussmore, to sound like
you really care.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Trump and that stuff. It makes you sound more earthy
and authentic, I guess. And one more Gavvy clip. I
know he's the President of the States. Forgive me, I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
he calls me new scum?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Come on, how to explain that to my kid? Now
he's got I have my kids friends call him my
kid's new scum.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
All right, I'm sorry about your kids.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm sure they're lovely little children and they have no
role in politics. So we will never address anything to
do with your family except your wife who's on the take.
As we discussed yesterday, there are a number of examples,
some like up to a half a million dollars of
if you want Gavy and the state to do what
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you want them to do, you we donate a huge
amount to his wife's quote unquote charity. So a bunch
of examples we outlined an hour four of yesterday's show.
Grab it via podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So a couple of my favorite right leaning leaning pundits
really like Gavin's chances forgetting the nomination and think he's
a force. And I can't tell if it's like they
know more than I do, or if it's because they
don't live in California.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And that often happens.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
If you're looking at it from the East coast, you
don't quite have the same view as if you live
in the state of California.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You think you got the outlines of it, but you don't, right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And when I remember the coverage of Arnold Horrible Arnold
Schwarzenegger's governorship, I would read stories in the major media,
the Bigfoot Press, Washington Post, New York Times, whatever, describing
how it's a post partisan world and Arnold's an example
of and how he's working with the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I'm like, that's the last stiffing thing.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
That's happening, right, And I think, you know, as I
already said, when the full assault on Gavin from other
Democrats when he's trying to get the nomination of just
homelessness and crime and people leave in the state and
all that sort of stuff, I don't see how he
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overcomes that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Wow, you know you're right, because I was picturing Republicans
running those devastating ads. Just run on your record, gavey
good luck. But the Gretchen Whitmer's and Josh Shapiro's and
Andy Basher's of the world.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
No, they're not going to roll over and let Gavin
be the nominee. No, no way.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Although I saw that that Basher person, I saw him
on Meet the Press the other day and he was
highly unimpressive.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, it's the whole You're you're a good enough triple
A player, but man, the majors is a whole nother world.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well what just as all political athlete, as some people say,
how do you what do you think Gavin is?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I as I've made the point before and would be
delighted to again. He is a player who has only
had in squad scrimmages. He has never played another team
because he is in a one party state. He was
anointed as the Great White Hope as a young man
by his rich, rich family in the pelosis that are
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all related. Willie Brown took him under his wing. He's
never been in an actual game and his and so
just as a political athlete, he's not nearly as good
as he seems to be.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's Rick Perry syndrome.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Rick Perry terrific, multi term governor of Texas, very popular,
you know, not perfect, but good. Got on the national stage.
He did not have nearly the chops and neither's is Gavy.
You heard it in those clips. He just he has
too many trail off sentences where he kind of well anyway,
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so at Sea's full of witches, you say, if.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You need to hire a witch, look to Etsy Jack.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, I have annoyed you what this means, among other things?
All the waist there. I know he's the President of
the States. Forgive me, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, he calls me new scum. You know, Come on,
how to explain that to my kid? Now he's got
I have my kid's friends call him my kid's new scum.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, everybody gets the nickname in school. I couldn't resist
one more kick at Gavin before we get to the
witches of Etsy.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Well, you called Trump hitler? How do you what is it?
How do you think his kids like being their dad
being called hitler?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Every kid in America named Enis is called Penis by
his schoolmates. It just it happens, Gavy, It's it's unfortunate.
I would agree, but your kids like us will be fine.
I wouldn't call us anus. I think you'd call him Anis. No,
you call him yes, no, neither. It was an example.
I would never denigrate a youth like that.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Excellent point. I've never known an Enis. That's true too,
so uh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Alicia Finley, who's one of my favorite writers. She does
opinions for the Wall Street Journal, among other things. She
was talking about gavyk Newsom the other day during that
big raid at the pot farm in southern California, they
rounded up three hundred allegedly illegal immigrants.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Blah blah blah, and Gavy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Got up and tried to, you know, mount the high
horse and make a speech and become the hero of
the left, as he does every half an excuse he gets.
And he made this statement instead of supporting the businesses
and workers that drive our economy and our way of life,
Steven Miller's tactics of chaos, fear, and terror within our
communities at every turn. Blah blah blah. Now you may
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think Miller's a little excessive, I actually do. But Alicia writes,
is he really claiming that pot farms are integral to
California's economy in way of life. Mister Trump has phoned
the deportation pass for farmers, hotels, other businesses, But why
should pot farms get one? They profit from addicting vulnerable people,
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all while doing grave damage to public health and society.
And the one part of this that I found really
interesting is an updated statistic. Uh, pot has been legalized
in California like more or less.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Completely now for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Only thirty eight percent of cannabis consumed in California comes
from licensed growers in retail.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Thirty eight percent.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Wow, So people are still willing to break the law
and risk everything that comes with that because it's so
expensive to buy the legal stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, because the taxes and regulations. But the other half
of it is law enforcement's been told Look, pot is
not a priority. If you smell pot, if you see
it being grown. What am I as a beat copper?
You know, even a mid level guy supposed to dig
into the state paperwork to figure out if that's illegal
or illegal grow?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, half of it's legal, but they've exceeded their limit.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Or if somebody's smoking pot on the street corner, which
I see in my town. How are you going to
determine where they got it? Make them show her receipt
or something.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Well, right, it's just.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's been deemphasized so much as law enforcement. You know,
priority that there are horrific illegal growths, but it's just
it's just.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Not the wow, not the priority use of it. So
you're not going to get arrested. It's almost impossible to
get arrested. So why would you buy the more expensive
and there was already infrastructure so well in place for
legal pod?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the difference between buying pot
pre legalization and post legalization in California is just where
you go. I mean, in terms of risk, there hardly
was any anyway. So under this, which I found very amusing,
this is my second act. This is my new hobby.
I just need to get together with like a brilliant marketer.
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I'll handle the bs they handled, like the computer and
logistics stuff witches on Etsy.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Start with some of these accounts and Jack, feel free
to be you. Jan Pereira spent all spring looking for
a retail job, but had no luck, so the college
sophomore and queens did what many around her do when
a situation doesn't go their way. She paid a witch
on Etsy to cast a spell. The job market is terrible.
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I'm not getting any responses, so why not help myself out?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
She asks?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And if it doesn't work out, then, oh well, it
was only fifteen dollars. The day the Etsy witch cast
the spell, she got a job offer from Whole Foods
and she's now a store shopper.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Was it magic?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Here's a guy, a creative director in Los Angeles. Uh.
He paid an Etsy witch eight dollars and forty eight
cents to cast a spell on the New York Knicks
ahead of Game five of the Eastern Conference Finals in May.
This is the dumbest one I've This is dumb. He
found a witch offering discount codes. He was only half
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kidding about the transaction, but was amazed when the Knicks won.
Maybe there's something more cosmic out there, he said.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But he's a witch.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wow, you want a second spell for a little over
twenty one dollars from the et Sea witch for Game six?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But the Knicks lost.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
He doesn't rule out the possibility that Pacers fans use
their devil magic, he haf joked.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I like the fact that the witches have coupons.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, Discount Witch is the name of my new Jampand
what's interesting about this is ETSI's rules are absolutely forbid
metaphysical services, including spell casting and items that had advertise
and metaphors like that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
That should be You allow that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
If people want to be separated from their money because
they're idiots, let them.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
But they don't enforce it at all, well they shouldn't. Wow,
that is something man.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's my next chapter, Etsy Witch, Katie, I wish we
had more time. I'd love to hear your comments.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Bargain Witch discount which tired of playing full witch prices.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bogo Witch, buy one spell, get one free. Joe the
Witch doing business. Here's my website.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Are strong and getty.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
The US is not going to be providing these systems
to Ukraine directly. Instead, President Trump says that he is
going to be selling these systems to NATO allies and
they are then going to backfill themselves and then send
the ones that they have to the Ukrainians.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Okay, we have breaking news around the whole US supplying
weapons to Ukraine. Trump's attitudes towards Russia. We were discussing
that some last hour Why are you giving him fifty days?
Did you really not understand who Putin was? Et cetera,
et cetera. Financial Times first reporting this. Now another news
outlets have picked it up. Can you hit Moscow? Trump
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asked Zelinski to strike deep inside Ussia? According to a
new report, what am I hearing here?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Hello? Was that that's my phone? Sorry about that? Please
silence your devices.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I'm on a news site that has pop up ads,
so right, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Is big though.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
In a dramatic shift from his earlier hands off rhetoric,
US President Donald Trump privately urged Ukrainian President Zelensky to
set up strikes inside Russian territory, even asking him directly
if Ukraine could hit Moscow and Saint Petersburg if given
the right weapons. I don't quite understand that question. They
have the actual audio. This is from the July fourth
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call with Zelensky. If you were paying attention to that.
Over fourth, Joly awake and Trump talked to him on
the phone right after he talked to Putin. So the
key to this is he was on the phone with
Putin for a long time. Got off the pone was
the pone, got off the phone, was very unhappy with
Putin told reporters the call was horrible. That seems to
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be like when he reached that finalist, guy's full of crap.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Stay.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
He gets on the phone with Zelensky and says, and
they have the quote series. So somebody heard it. Vladimir,
can you hit Moscow? Can you hit Saint Petersburg too?
Trump asked during the July fourth call, citing two people
who heard the conversation. The provocative exchange followed a tense
call between Trump and Putin, as I said, which the
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US president later described as bad. Now, it's possible this
is leaking out on purpose the day after. In fact,
it almost certainly is. It's leaking out on purpose the
day after. Trump announces the pause, the weapons, that all
the other stuff. This is part of the package. I'm
thinking This behind the scenes conversation highlights a growing frustration
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within Trump with Moscow and blah blah blah blah blah.
Trump was asked just a few minutes ago does he
trust Putin? And Trump said, I basically don't trust anyone.
So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
According to two individuals, he still resists, though, just bluntly
assessing Putent's you know, worthiness as a negotiating partner.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I guess I get that.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
According to the two individuals familiar with the call, Trump
signal to support signaled support for Ukraine launching long rage strikes,
describing the approach as a way to make them feel
the pain and force the Kremlin to negotiate. This is big,
if it's true. I don't quite understand the question of
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could you hit Moscow? Well, I could if you give
me weapons that reach that far.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I mean, if you had the right weapons, could you.
But that's what I just.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
To what I've been asking for for three years now.
I'd be happy to hit Moscow. I'll do it today
if you give me the right stuff. And why am
I hearing this eleven days after the fact. I think
was it leaked by the Ukrainians?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Two people for nah.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I could be wrong, but I think it's a coordinated
yesterday's messaging and this is part of a look the
Vladimir we're serious. Or maybe it came out today because
of you know, Lavrov's response to the fifty day pause
where he said, yeah, twenty four hours, one hundred days,
we've heard it all. Whatever, Maybe we leaked it on
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purpose for that. Okay, we're talking about giving them weapons
and hitting Moscow in Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now, okay, right that I get now, okay, all right, yeah, oh.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
That's big stuff though. You talk about a turnaround from
you don't have the cards? Why didn't you wear.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
A suit to? Can you hit Moscow if I send
you the right stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Huh at fifty days of holding our breath, I guess
and waiting to see what develops.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well, you don't have to hold to the fifty days.
There are no rules where you can't just fire missiles
into Saint Petersburg unless.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, right, right, yeah, but that might be part of
what happens during the fifty days, ratchet things up bit
by bet and I still maintain that. I think that's
mostly time for India in particular and a few other
countries to figure out where they're going to buy their
oil instead of Russia, since they're going to be hit
by gigantic secondary tariffs for trading with Russia if they continue.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Well, Russia's trying to kill every Ukrainian or at least
as many as they need to to take over the
country they hit.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The hundreds and hundreds of attacks or recently have had
no military value they're just killing civilians.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Just killing civilians, in fact, targeting civilians and apartments, hospitals, schools,
people waiting at bus stops, wherever they can find a
crowd of people, they'd try to kill them. So from
a justification standpoint, hell, yeah, you should hit Moscow or
Saint Petersburg or wherever you've got to. But if you
were ever concerned about it's starting World War three, which
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I haven't really been, but this is certainly a step
closer to that. If you start fire into Moscow, that's
when you got to wonder if Putin would use a
tactical nuke just to send a message. The Biden administration
was concerned about that, and they had some belief that
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Putin would. It's not inconceivable. No, it's not, absolutely not inconceivable.
It's going to get exciting fast.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Oh boy, that's one word for it. Let's see what.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I've had a couple of transitions run through my head,
but they seem very inappropriate. Next flight I take, can
I like, instead of choosing my seat or my meal,
if you're flying first class or something, can I choose
whether my pilot is mentally ill or not? Have you
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heard this medical records for the Air India pilot killed
in last month's crash, that big Boeing Dreamliner that took
off and just did rise and crashed into the medical
school hostile whatever it was. Medical records for the Air
India pilot were reportedly turned over to investigators, and the
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reports say he'd been suffering from depression and other mental
health issues. Captain Samit Sar Sabarwall age fifty six, was
the lead pilot. He'd taken medical leave in recent years
due to apparent mental health woes, heard from several of
(24:30):
This is a quote e leading Indian aviation safety expert.
Quote I've heard from several Air India pilots told me
he had some depression mental health issues. He'd taken time
off from flying in the last three to four years.
He'd taken medical leave for that. That's their rules. I
don't know if that that's our rules. I don't think
you could disclose mental health issues and continue to be
a commercial pilot in the United States.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, I don't know. You can't.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But he must have been medically cleared by the Air
India doctors. They must have given the clearance Act forget,
said this expert. But if you remember we reported on
this a few days ago. The jet engine's fuel cutoff
switches right had been flipped just three seconds after taking off,
and the cockpit chatter included one of the pilots in
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the cock that's saying, hey, why did you flip those
switches off, and the other guy saying I didn't flip
them off, And they were flipped back on again, supplying
the fuel flow to the jet engines, but it was
too late. That's a tough suicide by pilot, much like
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that vanished Malaysian air flight of not too many years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I don't think it's fair to call it suicide because
you killed a whole bunch of people. Well yeah, fair enough,
but yeah, that was his motivation. Why'd you decide to
kill a whole bunch of innocent people, you scumb back.
I can't imagine for a second, Come bag, you want
to kill yourself as a grown up adult, you know?
(26:04):
How about you don't? But you know your choice. You
don't get to take a whole bunch of people with you.
And there's no justifying that whatsoever. Yeah, that is that,
that's actually insane. That's a heck of a thing. If
it's true that in the United States. So you're you're
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Let anybody know, you'd lose your job. I don't know.
I can see both sides of that issue.
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Speaker 5 (27:47):
Man, I can't let go of this story. This is big.
What a turnaround for Donald Trump. If he's actually seriously,
it would seem considering well, I mean we're practically a
proxy if if we're having the conversation and sending them
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the weapons, well we have.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Been for a long time together with the other NATO countries,
supplying them with intelligence, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I mean, this is really a next level though. The
President's talking to them about striking Moscow.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
What do you need? What's it going to take? I
think the change isn't that the change is leaking it? Oh?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Interesting, Well, in this administration, maybe Biden was never talking
about offensive weapons. No, that from a couple of different
books that have been published. That is true. Do nothing
Biden the Mummy. Thank god he's out of office. Holy crap.
Could this get interesting fast? And then you know the
whole You think the base is not with him on
Epstein is the base with him on providing offensive weapons
(28:51):
that reach the capital of Russia.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I don't know. That's not what you might You might
not have voted for that.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
In fact, I know several Trump voters who are hardcore
Ukraine shouldn't get another dollar. Yeah, well, they're going to
be disappointed. Life comes at you fast. You know what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna consult an Etsy Witch.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's a good idea. I might do that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
A spell for understanding. I might do that today. I
got a couple of spells I'd like to gas. And
if it's only like fifteen bucks to throw, why not?
Got a couple of people I wouldn't mid seen get
hit by a bus.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Oh I don't think they'll do that ethical. No, that's
against which ethics. Oh, okay, bus hitting's et cetera.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Uh, you have thoughts on any of this? Text line
four one, five, two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Nudist group in Pittsburgh over the weekend held its annual
Balls Out bowling event, where clothing is not allowed. Much
to the horror of Jimmy's eighth birthday party. By the way,
whose idea was this? We need an idea for the
next newness event. How about a sport where you bend
(30:07):
over in front of everyone?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
No kidding, that's what I was thinking, your basic bowling form.
I don't want to see it on your average I.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Don't want to think about it, much less witness it
over and over again. Good lord, people are nuts. Oh,
speaking of nuts, Katie has further information on the Witches
of Etsy, which.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You alerted us early in the hour. Is a thing.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
You can go on Etsy and find a witual cast
a spell for you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yes, whether to find love or employment or whatever.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Yes, I had no idea this was even a thing,
and so I looked it up, and sure enough, Etsy
is not doing a damn thing about this, because there's
pages of.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I shouldn't they're getting a cut.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Hey, for six six bucks, you can get an obsession
love spell if you're ready to feel and experience a
love spell that's so intense and unforgettable.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Oh, that's the kind I'm looking for you. You have
a with them doing this.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I have zero problem with them being a conduit between
fraudsters and dumb people.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, I don't have any objection. No I don't. I mean,
I don't buy it. But if somebody else wants to go, sure, you.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Got to decide. It's like you're going to be a
wine maker. Though, what market do you want? Do you
want to do five dollars spells or do you want
to be like Mariah Spells has over four thousand sales
logged four point nine stars rating. By the way, really
good spells, high quality spells. People must be happy with
the results. She sells lesser spells, but also sells a
(31:36):
permanent protection spell for about two hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Wow, Okay, that's a good one because that one's not falsifiable.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
That's a perfect spell.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Because if it's you know, I get this love interest
and you don't get them, then the spell didn't work.
But if it's just protection, as long as I'm still alive, Hey,
you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I'm looking at some of these people, Katie, and
feel free to to pipe in there, just a little
bit of vaguely metaphysical. You know, ethereal got a crystal
over here in the background, you got some beads, you're
wearing a weird necklace and maybe a head dress of
some sort.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
That's a here's to be all it takes. Beads are
beads are big. Don't forget the crystal ball. Yeah right,
So trying so hard? Like, what did you search on Okay?
Speaker 8 (32:25):
She typed in I typed in witches on Etsy and
you got lots of results. There's a bad luck spell
for a wap in two dollars and forty seven cents.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You can't afford not to. I know you have to
try it. Now. Here's the sort of service side demand.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Emerald Bishop, a witch in Columbia, South Carolina, is averaging
about fifteen spells a week. She charges thirty five to
two hundred and fifty dollars for spells, does not offer refunds,
although she will recast a spell if you get no
movement within three months. Here's a woman calls herself a
reformed skeptic of witchcraft after she bought a twenty five
(33:03):
dollar Etsy spell that led to a boyfriend and a
tax refund.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I pray a good amount.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I grew up Episcopalian, the New Yorker said, but it's
definitely the witch. The timing is too suspect. Man, you
know it makes me sad on a way. Well it does,
but they're not sad.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, they're happy, you know. Yeah, so they're buying happiness
and Joe wants to deny them that. Wow, Joe wants
to deny them happiness just because they're stupid people.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
It must be on the list. No, I want it
both ways.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I want the freedom to sell somebody a spell, and
I want to then mock everybody involved.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I don't know how you do this. Uh, we've talked
about this for years. Did you ever do this when
you did radio Katie? We steps psychics on back a
day and we stopped doing it because it was just
so clearly taking advantage of sad, lonely people and Jewish.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
She couldn't enjoy it anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
So a couple of those quotes, actually, virtually every quote
in this article from somebody who went to a witch
and was pleased is somebody who has no concept, zero
concept of the difference between correlation and causation. They don't
even know there is a difference. I bought a spell
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and I got a tax refund three months later, So
I mean that's all you need to know. I mean,
they don't even comprehend that. Wait a minute, there's a
major logical flaw here. It's it's like the one percent
of people who eat pickles die, so pickles obviously are
a terrible idea. No, No, it relates directly to human
(34:48):
beings need to identify patterns even when they don't exist,
which brings me to something I want to talk about
next hour. That's right, we do yet another our grabit
via podcast subscribed Armstrong.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
You Getty on demand wherever you get podcasts.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But it's about the appeal of conspiracy theories, and a
lot of it has to do with we as a beast,
are driven to find patterns so we can protect ourselves.
Wait a minute, Ogg wandered into a pond in Florida.
He was eaten by an alligator. Wandering into ponds in
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Florida is dangerous. You've established a pattern there, but kind
of out of control. It leads to wild conspiracy theories.
The signs behind it really interesting. We'll do it next hour.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So what percentage of people do you think are susceptible
to an Etsy Witch? Off the top of your head?
Would you guess you think anybody Katie like? Do you
think it's one percent eight You think it's that high?
I think yeah, really, you think a one out of
five people might go for an Etsy Witch? Yeah, might
(35:58):
be a little less, but wow, Okay, I guarantee you
it's ten percent. Really high confidence. Now you know if
that's true. That explains a lot. Explains a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Actually, do you miss any immigrants from various cultures that
have high tolerance for this?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Vice President JD Vance visited Disneyland over the weekend with
his family. Well that's a good start, but I for
one think he deserves even more punishment.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
So that's a knock on Disneylands twist at the end there.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
So what was the Gavin Newsome JD Vance Disneyland story?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, the internet figured out that JD Vance had brought
his wife and kids to Disneyland in the beautiful California,
and Gaffy tweeted, hope you enjoy your family time, jdvans
the families you're tearing apart certainly won't and JD blast
it back, had a great time.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh that's one of my favorite verbal combat jiu jitsu moves.
Somebody blast you then waits for your response. You just
look at.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Him and go back to what you were doing.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Speaking of the governor of California, who was in South
Carolina talking to voters last week for some.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Reason, I think I got over here.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
That's like twenty eight hundred miles away from his state,
continuing to try to build his national cred and cross
into different voting groups. He was on the Sean Ryan
podcast over the weekend. I don't really know Sean Ryan's act.
I know a couple of very trumpy people, though, who
talk about Sean Ryan all the time. He's a big
(01:51):
deal for that crowd. Maybe you'd know who he is.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
So Gavin was on there, and let's listen at that.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
What separates our game from the game played elsewhere is innovation, entrepreneurialism.
More patents, more engineers, more researchers, more nobel laureates in
my state than any damned state, more fortune five hundred
companies in my state than any other state. Look that up,
because I know people are rolling their eyes and say, no,
it's Texas.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You're wrong. It's true. I locked it up.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Well.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Number one, it's the most populous state, and number two,
silicon valleys in California. And you've done your best to
drive all businesses, including tech out. But the fact that
you haven't yet succeeded, isn't exactly praiseworthy.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
You jump right. You inherited all those things you just said,
and it is diminished since you've been in power.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, you beat the hell out of it more. And we're,
by the way, a donor state.
Speaker 6 (02:43):
We provided eighty three point one billion dollars more than
we received from the federal government. Texas took seventy one
point one billion dollars. I'm not saying that to bash Texas,
but you know what, pretty proud of my goddamn state.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Nine out of ten of the donor.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
States are Trump states, and I don't mean that pejority Trump.
Seven of the ten are Republican states, but nine out
of the ten dependent states welfare states, are Trump states.
The donor states disproportionately in the Blue states. Seventy one
percent of the country's GDP comes from Blue counties, these
same crack up counties with all these crazy liberals that
(03:17):
can't get out of their own goddamn way, and the
world's come to an end. Wow, it's seventy one percent
of the economy the goddamn country.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Man three times, and that's what the gd bumps. That's
because they're enormously populous, you hack liar. Yeah yeah, New
York City has a bigger GDP than you know, Decatur, Illinois.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, I know, yeah, that one's pretty easily explained in that,
you know, cities are blue, and cities have a bigger
GDP than rural areas.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
That doesn't really, I don't know, explain anything.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Now the whole blue states, Red states donor states versus
take more. I don't know the stats on that. Nothing
is more misleading than statistics. If somebody could explain what's
going on there, I would like to hear it. Well,
it has to do with the size of the state
GDP is that a thing? And how rural it is,
how poor it is are there Indian reservations. It's just
(04:16):
there are so many things that factor in. Plus, you know,
everybody gets interstate highway money. Wyoming's got no humans and
they get lots and lots of interstate highway money, for instance.
So that was a pretty good a little rift there
to distract from the fact that good luck running on
California's record when all people do is show videos of
(04:36):
homeless encampments all over the state and the fact that
California is losing human beings for the first time in
its history.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well, now, don't you can get past those two things.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Don't let the vagrants and drug addicts have all of
the spot, like Jack, give some time to the people
sweeping products off the shelves at stores and the products
all being locked up, and you have to beg somebody
for a can of shaving cream because there's so much
crime everything's locked up.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Let's put that in the videos too.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Yeah, if you live somewhere where they don't have the
legos locked up at target, it probably seems crazy to you.
But like, everything's locked up at my target, you have
to get some poy with a key to come let
you get your toothpaste because we allow so much crime here.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
It's nuts. And maybe just as a kicker.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
A shot of soiled underpants in the aisle where the
vagrant drug addicts have swapped out their dirty clothes for
new ones they've stolen because there's no repercussion or repercussion
for shoplifting. A tax expert front of the Armstrong and
Getty Show also weighs in, I absolutely hate the donor
(05:44):
state crap and quotes if you have military, bass, retired military,
more social security recipients, you will quote receive more federal funding.
But it has nothing to do with governors except to
the extent that they're driving old people and veterans to
other states.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I see. Okay, interesting, so as what perfect? This is perfect?
So there was a article came out yesterday and I
got it, but I got enough of it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
In my head.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The most expensive state to retire in in the entire
country is number one out of fifty is California. California
is more expensive than anywhere else to retire to. So
very few people who are going to be receiving Social
Security are going to be retiring in California, right, So
that it's that, your friend.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
There's stats.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
The least expensive state and the entire United States of
America retired to is Kansas. So they're going to receive
They're not going to receive there as much money. I mean, well, retirements,
retirees are gonna go there, and you're gonna receive money
as a red state, you know, sir, There you go.
So that does explain that. That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And keep in mind what percentage of federal budget, I mean,
the overall budget is entitlements.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's most of it. So yeah, that's that's where the
weight is.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Okay, I'm glad somebody explained that. I knew there was
going to be something behind that that made sense and
the gd bombs. Remember we all caught on there was
a memo that went around to Democrats. What it was
it four six months ago to cussmore, to sound like
you really care.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Trump and that stuff. It makes you sound more earthy
and authentic, I guess. And one more Gavvy clip. I
know he's the President of the States. Forgive me, I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
he calls me new scum?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Come on, how to explain that to my kid? Now
he's got I have my kids friends call him my
kid's new scum.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
All right, I'm sorry about your kids.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm sure they're lovely little children and they have no
role in politics. So we will never address anything to
do with your family except your wife who's on the take.
As we discussed yesterday, there are a number of examples,
some like up to a half a million dollars of
if you want Gavy and the state to do what
(07:58):
you want them to do, you we donate a huge
amount to his wife's quote unquote charity. So a bunch
of examples we outlined an hour four of yesterday's show.
Grab it via podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
So a couple of my favorite right leaning leaning pundits
really like Gavin's chances forgetting the nomination and think he's
a force. And I can't tell if it's like they
know more than I do, or if it's because they
don't live in California.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
And that often happens.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
If you're looking at it from the East coast, you
don't quite have the same view as if you live
in the state of California.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You think you got the outlines of it, but you don't, right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And when I remember the coverage of Arnold Horrible Arnold
Schwarzenegger's governorship, I would read stories in the major media,
the Bigfoot Press, Washington Post, New York Times, whatever, describing
how it's a post partisan world and Arnold's an example
of and how he's working with the Democrats.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And I'm like, that's the last stiffing thing.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
That's happening, right, And I think, you know, as I
already said, when the full assault on Gavin from other
Democrats when he's trying to get the nomination of just
homelessness and crime and people leave in the state and
all that sort of stuff, I don't see how he
(09:13):
overcomes that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Wow, you know you're right, because I was picturing Republicans
running those devastating ads. Just run on your record, gavey
good luck. But the Gretchen Whitmer's and Josh Shapiro's and
Andy Basher's of the world.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
No, they're not going to roll over and let Gavin
be the nominee. No, no way.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Although I saw that that Basher person, I saw him
on Meet the Press the other day and he was
highly unimpressive.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, it's the whole You're you're a good enough triple
A player, but man, the majors is a whole nother world.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well what just as all political athlete, as some people say,
how do you what do you think Gavin is?
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I as I've made the point before and would be
delighted to again. He is a player who has only
had in squad scrimmages. He has never played another team
because he is in a one party state. He was
anointed as the Great White Hope as a young man
by his rich, rich family in the pelosis that are
(10:14):
all related. Willie Brown took him under his wing. He's
never been in an actual game and his and so
just as a political athlete, he's not nearly as good
as he seems to be.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's Rick Perry syndrome.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Rick Perry terrific, multi term governor of Texas, very popular,
you know, not perfect, but good. Got on the national stage.
He did not have nearly the chops and neither's is Gavy.
You heard it in those clips. He just he has
too many trail off sentences where he kind of well anyway,
(10:49):
so at Sea's full of witches, you say, if.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You need to hire a witch, look to Etsy Jack.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Okay, I have annoyed you what this means, among other things?
All the waist there. I know he's the President of
the States. Forgive me, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, he calls me new scum. You know, Come on,
how to explain that to my kid? Now he's got
I have my kid's friends call him my kid's new scum.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, everybody gets the nickname in school. I couldn't resist
one more kick at Gavin before we get to the
witches of Etsy.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Well, you called Trump hitler? How do you what is it?
How do you think his kids like being their dad
being called hitler?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Every kid in America named Enis is called Penis by
his schoolmates. It just it happens, Gavy, It's it's unfortunate.
I would agree, but your kids like us will be fine.
I wouldn't call us anus. I think you'd call him Anis. No,
you call him yes, no, neither. It was an example.
I would never denigrate a youth like that.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Excellent point. I've never known an Enis. That's true too,
so uh.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Alicia Finley, who's one of my favorite writers. She does
opinions for the Wall Street Journal, among other things. She
was talking about gavyk Newsom the other day during that
big raid at the pot farm in southern California, they
rounded up three hundred allegedly illegal immigrants.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Blah blah blah, and Gavy.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Got up and tried to, you know, mount the high
horse and make a speech and become the hero of
the left, as he does every half an excuse he gets.
And he made this statement instead of supporting the businesses
and workers that drive our economy and our way of life,
Steven Miller's tactics of chaos, fear, and terror within our
communities at every turn. Blah blah blah. Now you may
(12:43):
think Miller's a little excessive, I actually do. But Alicia writes,
is he really claiming that pot farms are integral to
California's economy in way of life. Mister Trump has phoned
the deportation pass for farmers, hotels, other businesses, But why
should pot farms get one? They profit from addicting vulnerable people,
(13:03):
all while doing grave damage to public health and society.
And the one part of this that I found really
interesting is an updated statistic. Uh, pot has been legalized
in California like more or less.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Completely now for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Only thirty eight percent of cannabis consumed in California comes
from licensed growers in retail.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Thirty eight percent.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Wow, So people are still willing to break the law
and risk everything that comes with that because it's so
expensive to buy the legal stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, because the taxes and regulations. But the other half
of it is law enforcement's been told Look, pot is
not a priority. If you smell pot, if you see
it being grown. What am I as a beat copper?
You know, even a mid level guy supposed to dig
into the state paperwork to figure out if that's illegal
or illegal grow?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, half of it's legal, but they've exceeded their limit.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Or if somebody's smoking pot on the street corner, which
I see in my town. How are you going to
determine where they got it? Make them show her receipt
or something.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Well, right, it's just.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's been deemphasized so much as law enforcement. You know,
priority that there are horrific illegal growths, but it's just
it's just.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Not the wow, not the priority use of it. So
you're not going to get arrested. It's almost impossible to
get arrested. So why would you buy the more expensive
and there was already infrastructure so well in place for
legal pod?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the difference between buying pot
pre legalization and post legalization in California is just where
you go. I mean, in terms of risk, there hardly
was any anyway. So under this, which I found very amusing,
this is my second act. This is my new hobby.
I just need to get together with like a brilliant marketer.
(14:49):
I'll handle the bs they handled, like the computer and
logistics stuff witches on Etsy.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Start with some of these accounts and Jack, feel free
to be you. Jan Pereira spent all spring looking for
a retail job, but had no luck, so the college
sophomore and queens did what many around her do when
a situation doesn't go their way. She paid a witch
on Etsy to cast a spell. The job market is terrible.
(15:22):
I'm not getting any responses, so why not help myself out?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
She asks?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And if it doesn't work out, then, oh well, it
was only fifteen dollars. The day the Etsy witch cast
the spell, she got a job offer from Whole Foods
and she's now a store shopper.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Was it magic?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Here's a guy, a creative director in Los Angeles. Uh.
He paid an Etsy witch eight dollars and forty eight
cents to cast a spell on the New York Knicks
ahead of Game five of the Eastern Conference Finals in May.
This is the dumbest one I've This is dumb. He
found a witch offering discount codes. He was only half
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kidding about the transaction, but was amazed when the Knicks won.
Maybe there's something more cosmic out there, he said.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
But he's a witch.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Wow, you want a second spell for a little over
twenty one dollars from the et Sea witch for Game six?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
But the Knicks lost.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
He doesn't rule out the possibility that Pacers fans use
their devil magic, he haf joked.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
I like the fact that the witches have coupons.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, Discount Witch is the name of my new Jampand
what's interesting about this is ETSI's rules are absolutely forbid
metaphysical services, including spell casting and items that had advertise
and metaphors like that.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
That should be You allow that.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
If people want to be separated from their money because
they're idiots, let them.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
But they don't enforce it at all, well they shouldn't. Wow,
that is something man.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's my next chapter, Etsy Witch, Katie, I wish we
had more time. I'd love to hear your comments.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
Bargain Witch discount which tired of playing full witch prices.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bogo Witch, buy one spell, get one free. Joe the
Witch doing business. Here's my website.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Are strong and getty.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
The US is not going to be providing these systems
to Ukraine directly. Instead, President Trump says that he is
going to be selling these systems to NATO allies and
they are then going to backfill themselves and then send
the ones that they have to the Ukrainians.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Okay, we have breaking news around the whole US supplying
weapons to Ukraine. Trump's attitudes towards Russia. We were discussing
that some last hour Why are you giving him fifty days?
Did you really not understand who Putin was? Et cetera,
et cetera. Financial Times first reporting this. Now another news
outlets have picked it up. Can you hit Moscow? Trump
(17:56):
asked Zelinski to strike deep inside Ussia? According to a
new report, what am I hearing here?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Hello? Was that that's my phone? Sorry about that? Please
silence your devices.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I'm on a news site that has pop up ads,
so right, yeah, this.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Is big though.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
In a dramatic shift from his earlier hands off rhetoric,
US President Donald Trump privately urged Ukrainian President Zelensky to
set up strikes inside Russian territory, even asking him directly
if Ukraine could hit Moscow and Saint Petersburg if given
the right weapons. I don't quite understand that question. They
have the actual audio. This is from the July fourth
(18:36):
call with Zelensky. If you were paying attention to that.
Over fourth, Joly awake and Trump talked to him on
the phone right after he talked to Putin. So the
key to this is he was on the phone with
Putin for a long time. Got off the pone was
the pone, got off the phone, was very unhappy with
Putin told reporters the call was horrible. That seems to
(18:56):
be like when he reached that finalist, guy's full of crap.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Stay.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
He gets on the phone with Zelensky and says, and
they have the quote series. So somebody heard it. Vladimir,
can you hit Moscow? Can you hit Saint Petersburg too?
Trump asked during the July fourth call, citing two people
who heard the conversation. The provocative exchange followed a tense
call between Trump and Putin, as I said, which the
(19:21):
US president later described as bad. Now, it's possible this
is leaking out on purpose the day after. In fact,
it almost certainly is. It's leaking out on purpose the
day after. Trump announces the pause, the weapons, that all
the other stuff. This is part of the package. I'm
thinking This behind the scenes conversation highlights a growing frustration
(19:45):
within Trump with Moscow and blah blah blah blah blah.
Trump was asked just a few minutes ago does he
trust Putin? And Trump said, I basically don't trust anyone.
So that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
According to two individuals, he still resists, though, just bluntly
assessing Putent's you know, worthiness as a negotiating partner.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I guess I get that.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
According to the two individuals familiar with the call, Trump
signal to support signaled support for Ukraine launching long rage strikes,
describing the approach as a way to make them feel
the pain and force the Kremlin to negotiate. This is big,
if it's true. I don't quite understand the question of
(20:34):
could you hit Moscow? Well, I could if you give
me weapons that reach that far.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I mean, if you had the right weapons, could you.
But that's what I just.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
To what I've been asking for for three years now.
I'd be happy to hit Moscow. I'll do it today
if you give me the right stuff. And why am
I hearing this eleven days after the fact. I think
was it leaked by the Ukrainians?
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Two people for nah.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
I could be wrong, but I think it's a coordinated
yesterday's messaging and this is part of a look the
Vladimir we're serious. Or maybe it came out today because
of you know, Lavrov's response to the fifty day pause
where he said, yeah, twenty four hours, one hundred days,
we've heard it all. Whatever, Maybe we leaked it on
(21:20):
purpose for that. Okay, we're talking about giving them weapons
and hitting Moscow in Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Now, okay, right that I get now, okay, all right, yeah, oh.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
That's big stuff though. You talk about a turnaround from
you don't have the cards? Why didn't you wear.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
A suit to? Can you hit Moscow if I send
you the right stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Huh at fifty days of holding our breath, I guess
and waiting to see what develops.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well, you don't have to hold to the fifty days.
There are no rules where you can't just fire missiles
into Saint Petersburg unless.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, right, right, yeah, but that might be part of
what happens during the fifty days, ratchet things up bit
by bet and I still maintain that. I think that's
mostly time for India in particular and a few other
countries to figure out where they're going to buy their
oil instead of Russia, since they're going to be hit
by gigantic secondary tariffs for trading with Russia if they continue.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Well, Russia's trying to kill every Ukrainian or at least
as many as they need to to take over the
country they hit.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The hundreds and hundreds of attacks or recently have had
no military value they're just killing civilians.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Just killing civilians, in fact, targeting civilians and apartments, hospitals, schools,
people waiting at bus stops, wherever they can find a
crowd of people, they'd try to kill them. So from
a justification standpoint, hell, yeah, you should hit Moscow or
Saint Petersburg or wherever you've got to. But if you
were ever concerned about it's starting World War three, which
(22:54):
I haven't really been, but this is certainly a step
closer to that. If you start fire into Moscow, that's
when you got to wonder if Putin would use a
tactical nuke just to send a message. The Biden administration
was concerned about that, and they had some belief that
(23:17):
Putin would. It's not inconceivable. No, it's not, absolutely not inconceivable.
It's going to get exciting fast.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Oh boy, that's one word for it. Let's see what.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I've had a couple of transitions run through my head,
but they seem very inappropriate. Next flight I take, can
I like, instead of choosing my seat or my meal,
if you're flying first class or something, can I choose
whether my pilot is mentally ill or not? Have you
(23:50):
heard this medical records for the Air India pilot killed
in last month's crash, that big Boeing Dreamliner that took
off and just did rise and crashed into the medical
school hostile whatever it was. Medical records for the Air
India pilot were reportedly turned over to investigators, and the
(24:10):
reports say he'd been suffering from depression and other mental
health issues. Captain Samit Sar Sabarwall age fifty six, was
the lead pilot. He'd taken medical leave in recent years
due to apparent mental health woes, heard from several of
(24:30):
This is a quote e leading Indian aviation safety expert.
Quote I've heard from several Air India pilots told me
he had some depression mental health issues. He'd taken time
off from flying in the last three to four years.
He'd taken medical leave for that. That's their rules. I
don't know if that that's our rules. I don't think
you could disclose mental health issues and continue to be
a commercial pilot in the United States.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
No, I don't know. You can't.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But he must have been medically cleared by the Air
India doctors. They must have given the clearance Act forget,
said this expert. But if you remember we reported on
this a few days ago. The jet engine's fuel cutoff
switches right had been flipped just three seconds after taking off,
and the cockpit chatter included one of the pilots in
(25:18):
the cock that's saying, hey, why did you flip those
switches off, and the other guy saying I didn't flip
them off, And they were flipped back on again, supplying
the fuel flow to the jet engines, but it was
too late. That's a tough suicide by pilot, much like
(25:39):
that vanished Malaysian air flight of not too many years ago.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I don't think it's fair to call it suicide because
you killed a whole bunch of people. Well yeah, fair enough,
but yeah, that was his motivation. Why'd you decide to
kill a whole bunch of innocent people, you scumb back.
I can't imagine for a second, Come bag, you want
to kill yourself as a grown up adult, you know?
(26:04):
How about you don't? But you know your choice. You
don't get to take a whole bunch of people with you.
And there's no justifying that whatsoever. Yeah, that is that,
that's actually insane. That's a heck of a thing. If
it's true that in the United States. So you're you're
depressed as a commercial pilot, but you got to keep
(26:24):
it a secret because if you.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Let anybody know, you'd lose your job. I don't know.
I can see both sides of that issue.
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Speaker 5 (27:47):
Man, I can't let go of this story. This is big.
What a turnaround for Donald Trump. If he's actually seriously,
it would seem considering well, I mean we're practically a
proxy if if we're having the conversation and sending them
(28:08):
the weapons, well we have.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Been for a long time together with the other NATO countries,
supplying them with intelligence, you know.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I mean, this is really a next level though. The
President's talking to them about striking Moscow.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
What do you need? What's it going to take? I
think the change isn't that the change is leaking it? Oh?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Interesting, Well, in this administration, maybe Biden was never talking
about offensive weapons. No, that from a couple of different
books that have been published. That is true. Do nothing
Biden the Mummy. Thank god he's out of office. Holy crap.
Could this get interesting fast? And then you know the
whole You think the base is not with him on
Epstein is the base with him on providing offensive weapons
(28:51):
that reach the capital of Russia.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
I don't know. That's not what you might You might
not have voted for that.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
In fact, I know several Trump voters who are hardcore
Ukraine shouldn't get another dollar. Yeah, well, they're going to
be disappointed. Life comes at you fast. You know what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna consult an Etsy Witch.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's a good idea. I might do that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
A spell for understanding. I might do that today. I
got a couple of spells I'd like to gas. And
if it's only like fifteen bucks to throw, why not?
Got a couple of people I wouldn't mid seen get
hit by a bus.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Oh I don't think they'll do that ethical. No, that's
against which ethics. Oh, okay, bus hitting's et cetera.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Uh, you have thoughts on any of this? Text line
four one, five, two nine five KFTC.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Nudist group in Pittsburgh over the weekend held its annual
Balls Out bowling event, where clothing is not allowed. Much
to the horror of Jimmy's eighth birthday party. By the way,
whose idea was this? We need an idea for the
next newness event. How about a sport where you bend
(30:07):
over in front of everyone?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
No kidding, that's what I was thinking, your basic bowling form.
I don't want to see it on your average I.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Don't want to think about it, much less witness it
over and over again. Good lord, people are nuts. Oh,
speaking of nuts, Katie has further information on the Witches
of Etsy, which.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You alerted us early in the hour. Is a thing.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
You can go on Etsy and find a witual cast
a spell for you.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Yes, whether to find love or employment or whatever.
Speaker 8 (30:38):
Yes, I had no idea this was even a thing,
and so I looked it up, and sure enough, Etsy
is not doing a damn thing about this, because there's
pages of.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
I shouldn't they're getting a cut.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Hey, for six six bucks, you can get an obsession
love spell if you're ready to feel and experience a
love spell that's so intense and unforgettable.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Oh, that's the kind I'm looking for you. You have
a with them doing this.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
I have zero problem with them being a conduit between
fraudsters and dumb people.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, I don't have any objection. No I don't. I mean,
I don't buy it. But if somebody else wants to go, sure, you.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Got to decide. It's like you're going to be a
wine maker. Though, what market do you want? Do you
want to do five dollars spells or do you want
to be like Mariah Spells has over four thousand sales
logged four point nine stars rating. By the way, really
good spells, high quality spells. People must be happy with
the results. She sells lesser spells, but also sells a
(31:36):
permanent protection spell for about two hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
Wow, Okay, that's a good one because that one's not falsifiable.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
That's a perfect spell.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Because if it's you know, I get this love interest
and you don't get them, then the spell didn't work.
But if it's just protection, as long as I'm still alive, Hey,
you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And I'm looking at some of these people, Katie, and
feel free to to pipe in there, just a little
bit of vaguely metaphysical. You know, ethereal got a crystal
over here in the background, you got some beads, you're
wearing a weird necklace and maybe a head dress of
some sort.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
That's a here's to be all it takes. Beads are
beads are big. Don't forget the crystal ball. Yeah right,
So trying so hard? Like, what did you search on Okay?
Speaker 8 (32:25):
She typed in I typed in witches on Etsy and
you got lots of results. There's a bad luck spell
for a wap in two dollars and forty seven cents.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
You can't afford not to. I know you have to
try it. Now. Here's the sort of service side demand.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Emerald Bishop, a witch in Columbia, South Carolina, is averaging
about fifteen spells a week. She charges thirty five to
two hundred and fifty dollars for spells, does not offer refunds,
although she will recast a spell if you get no
movement within three months. Here's a woman calls herself a
reformed skeptic of witchcraft after she bought a twenty five
(33:03):
dollar Etsy spell that led to a boyfriend and a
tax refund.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I pray a good amount.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
I grew up Episcopalian, the New Yorker said, but it's
definitely the witch. The timing is too suspect. Man, you
know it makes me sad on a way. Well it does,
but they're not sad.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, they're happy, you know. Yeah, so they're buying happiness
and Joe wants to deny them that. Wow, Joe wants
to deny them happiness just because they're stupid people.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
It must be on the list. No, I want it
both ways.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I want the freedom to sell somebody a spell, and
I want to then mock everybody involved.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I don't know how you do this. Uh, we've talked
about this for years. Did you ever do this when
you did radio Katie? We steps psychics on back a
day and we stopped doing it because it was just
so clearly taking advantage of sad, lonely people and Jewish.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
She couldn't enjoy it anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
So a couple of those quotes, actually, virtually every quote
in this article from somebody who went to a witch
and was pleased is somebody who has no concept, zero
concept of the difference between correlation and causation. They don't
even know there is a difference. I bought a spell
(34:25):
and I got a tax refund three months later, So
I mean that's all you need to know. I mean,
they don't even comprehend that. Wait a minute, there's a
major logical flaw here. It's it's like the one percent
of people who eat pickles die, so pickles obviously are
a terrible idea. No, No, it relates directly to human
(34:48):
beings need to identify patterns even when they don't exist,
which brings me to something I want to talk about
next hour. That's right, we do yet another our grabit
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Speaker 4 (35:02):
You Getty on demand wherever you get podcasts.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
But it's about the appeal of conspiracy theories, and a
lot of it has to do with we as a beast,
are driven to find patterns so we can protect ourselves.
Wait a minute, Ogg wandered into a pond in Florida.
He was eaten by an alligator. Wandering into ponds in
(35:26):
Florida is dangerous. You've established a pattern there, but kind
of out of control. It leads to wild conspiracy theories.
The signs behind it really interesting. We'll do it next hour.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So what percentage of people do you think are susceptible
to an Etsy Witch? Off the top of your head?
Would you guess you think anybody Katie like? Do you
think it's one percent eight You think it's that high?
I think yeah, really, you think a one out of
five people might go for an Etsy Witch? Yeah, might
(35:58):
be a little less, but wow, Okay, I guarantee you
it's ten percent. Really high confidence. Now you know if
that's true. That explains a lot. Explains a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Actually, do you miss any immigrants from various cultures that
have high tolerance for this?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
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