March 19, 2025 • 35 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- NASA astronauts returned to Earth & life on Mars
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- The uncovered JFK files
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio studio of the
George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong, Joe Kaddy arm Strong
and Jack Kid and he.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Arm who live from studio scene, say to Wednesday, are
you excited at that halfway did the finish line?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Or I'm strong and getting in a dimly lit room
using in the bowels of our entire compound and torming
you for hours to come.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And today we're under the food ledge of our general manager.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Let's go with Sonny Williams and Butch will Moore, the
recently returned astronauts.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
There as two of them.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
There indeed were two of them. There are two of
them there continue to be two of them.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes, and they're the ones that I saw land in
the ocean last night.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That is correct. Well, plucky, plucky gal, plucky guy. It's
amazing what nine months in space due to you, though,
I mean they are weak, weak acts. They ought to
get to They're tough enough. Zero gravity, your muscles wither
away and your bones get less dense, and your eyeballs
are prone to floating out of their sockets on their
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day last part up.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But it's it's rough on a human being.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Which brings to mind jack the illumined question, how the
hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them
be anything other than just a glob of jelly isometric exercises,
That's what I say.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, I was listening to an old astronautic who said
you recover pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So but uh yeah, I heard Elon.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We got some clips that Elan, he didn't interview last night,
talking about going to Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Quite the deal. I hope I live long enough to
do it.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
He said, twenty to twenty to thirty years before there's
like a space station there. I don't know when he's
expecting to actually have a human being just go there.
I don't think there's any plan to come back, right.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Right, yeah, a space station manned by humans there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
that's the whole point.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
He's so much for robotics these days. No, Elon that, well,
that wouldn't do us any good. Elon's entire point is
that we need to be the first species, probably in
the universe, to be multiplanetary. He believes if there has
ever been other intelligent life, it's because it died out
because it was on one planet. Eventually, a planet dies
out for a number of reasons or destroys itself or whatever.
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You need to be multiplanetary to continue as a species,
and the only way to do that is to get
to Mars and have people there also.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, that's this is why you're not in charge of
the program. To dismiss my ideas. That wouldn't do any good.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The robots would get there and build the facilities that
were need it well, so the humans could move in.
It's like a move in ready condo on Mars. The
robots would put up the wallpaper and paint and rearrange
the furniture a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Still they're happy with it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I know I'm not gonna live long enough for this.
This is the part I would really like to see.
Is you get enough people up there that you start
to have a society that then has exactly the same
problems we've had here on Earth. And then maybe everybody
finally realizes once and for all, it's just freaking human nature.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Wait what, I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
There wasn't a Trump on Mars that caused people to
act this way or something else, right, that would be something,
wouldn't it if if that just brought us like an
extra year and a half after Earth destroys itself.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The people on Mars are doing exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But you're gonna have the first crime on Earth first,
or on Mars the first time somebody you know comes
back in and their uh, I don't know, their gyroscope
is missing. And Fred's first crime first murder first, you know,
out of wedlock, baby whatever. Sure, somebody gets a little
drunk on space rum and takes a swing at somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, right, you'll have to have a space jail.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I don't know if people understand that that's happening,
and you know, speaking to that, clearly, politics or space
has been politicized now in the way that everything else
is politicized. The coverage of yesterday's Return of the Astronauts
depend on what channel you were watching.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They either mentioned elon Musk, space X and.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
All that endlessly or they mentioned it not at all,
depending on the channel the channel you were watching. Because
space has become politicized just.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like everything else.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was actually mildly surprised to see ABC News in
a bit of detail go over the whole Boeing swung
and missed and SpaceX succeeded.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I was listening to NPR today and unless I missed it,
there was nary a mention of SpaceX's role in the
whole thing. NASA, NASA, NASA, NASSA, just lots of NASSA
government program.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Did this government program? Did that? NPR is a funny,
funny joke.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And well they did have a good interview with an
astronaut talking about I'd never heard anybody. I've heard astronaut
since I was a little kid. Joe and I grew
up in the golden age of SpaceX co exploration, when
we're going to the Moon and whatnot, and I would
alwa's heard about Uncle Neil Armstrong holds a fairly prominent
place in the history. And now I've forgotten the word.
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The word applies to my son because it's a problem
he had as a little kid. Are the human body
needs pressure against it, particularly to the bottoms of your
feet in your hands, to help orient it in the world,
or your brain gets all out of whack. And that's
the big problem. It's not the muscles after fying, it's
that you have no none of that feedback on any
of your body for a length of time, and it
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makes your brain go crazy. And that's the biggest adjustment
that astronauts have to make. And I'd never heard that before,
but it makes perfect sense, and it's really awful, like
an awful, awful feeling. I'd always only heard about it
described as muscle atrophying, and that's why they're that way
and all wildling. No, no, no, no, it's the they've had
no feedback on their body through their the normal spaces
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of walking around and pushing off of things, and their
brain is out of whack, right, it takes a while
for that to come back into whack.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I heard Brettbaar was talking to who's the senator from
Arizona whose brother was an astronaut. Yeah, the the Kelly
brother who is an astronaut, was talking about coming back
from a rather extended space mission, and he was talking
about having hives, having painful skin pace hives because something
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to do with without the pressure, his skin changed and
then when the pressure came back again, it was extremely
sensitive and he had if you've.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Never had hives, it's it's it's like torture.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
The astronaut I heard interviewed said he's five eleven, but
when he came back he was six one. Then only
lasted a couple of days and he went back to
five eleven. That's how much you stretched out when you're
not squished down by gravity all the time. I wonder
how tall I am. I'm probably seven feet tall. When
will we fight back against our oppressor of gravity?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right? I didn't love gravity? Who voted for that? Who
passed it? It's the dictatorship of gravity, That's what I say.
Who was with me? Yes, Katie?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Well, you guys remember that documentary that Arnold was in,
the Total Recall in Space Mutations?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, oh yes, another thing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We learned a great deal from that, yes, yes, yes,
well and speaking up for the women folk in space,
you don't have to worry about you know, support garments
or anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Your poms cal Yes, it's just so great.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Everything just stays like your nineteen year old college freshman
for you know, permanently awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I like all of this. Let's start the show officially.
I'm Jack Armstrong Joe Getty on this is how did
it already get to be Wednesday March nineteenth or twenty
twenty five or Armstrong and Getty, and we approved this program.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
How many women would willingly be set to space for
two months a year if it preserved to a large
extent their late teen's early twenties body for an extra decade.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't know every single one of us.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh boy, all right, let's begin the show officially now.
According to FCC rules and regulations here, we got a
lot to get to at.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Mark Brace for splashdown and splashdown Crew nine back on
our snip, Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Butch sunny On behalf of SpaceX Welcome Home. That's a splashdown.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I wouldn't call it violent exactly, but it's like one
step short of violent when you actually hit the water.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I noticed they.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hit it at an angle, so the flat part of
the craft doesn't contact the water. It kind of noses
in like a wag, which I'm sure is part of
the design.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But I wonder how jostling that is. So we'll play
the clip a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
But Elon, in an interview last night, said they offered
the Biden administration to go up there and get those astronauts,
and the Biden administration wouldn't deal with them out of politics.
Elon says, because of politics. Biden didn't let their technology
go get these astronauts. That's why it happened right after
Trump became president. Now Biden administration is saying that's not true.
(09:30):
The timing is a little suspicious. The fact that it
didn't happen during Biden and then Trump's president. That happens
pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So well, the.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Biden administration told us Old Show is doing great. In
fact he was better, never was fit to go for
another term.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
The evidence I only need is I've said this one
hundred times, is just you talk about climate change, you
talk about all the electric cars in America, and never
mentioned Tesla.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's all I need to know. You don't mention the
number one by far electric car company because of politics.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Even though it's a an existential threat to the extent
that you have terrified generations of children over it, and
yet we're.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Leading the electric car company in the country. It's pretended
doesn't exist.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And that was not Elon is with Trump at that time,
that was all. Tesla doesn't have the United Auto Workers
union that GM and Ford and everybody has.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But now, of course Elon is Hitler. We got Katie's.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Headlines on the way we've got some mail bag, we
got some other news we got we know something about
the Trump Putin call from yesterday. Putin's asking for a lot,
as I think was predicted, what we give him. I
don't know. Israel as we speak is bombing Gaza.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They've broken the ceasefire. Jack Corse, the New York Times, Right,
I just heard that on NPR. NPRS, which is running
all these promos.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You know, they're always begging for money, even though we're
supporting them through tax payer.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Money, among other things.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
NPR runs all these promos about how preserve what do
they call it, not real information, but something like.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That, objective journalism. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, with the idea that we're the only things standing
between you and just nothing but spun misinformation.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
We're the real.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Partisan objective journalism. You have to help us preserve it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Do they believe that? Do they think a lot of them? Do?
I think they do.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I know lots of NPR listeners that believe that's the
only news source you can count on to be objective.
I would love to sit down with them and go
through a newscast and point out where they're not objective.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, you form your your view of what's moderate or
what's objective or not based on your observations, and if
you're bubbled, then you will think, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Super far left is moderate.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Got a lot on the way, and our text line
is four one five two nine five KFTC. I don't
know if I'm stealing one of your headlines by teasing this,
but Attorney General Pam Bondi announced yesterday that they're going
to pursue punishments as high as they can against people
who are attacking Tesla dealerships because it's political violence, if
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you will, and we can't tolerate that in America. But
have some of the reactions around that that are pretty
darned interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, well, I agree with her completely.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's reminiscent of the early seventies when there are hundreds
of bombings a year on private property, generally our government buildings,
and it was clearly political terrorism. Go get them scumbags,
all right. We've got a lot to get to today.
As previously mentioned, it's Trump versus the courts. John Roberts
chastises the president very gently, the big potent Trump call.
(12:41):
Got to get to that and much more. Let's figure
out who's reporting what it's leads throws Katy Green, Katy,
this was so cool.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Starting with the Guardian Dolphins welcome NASA astronauts stuck in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Space back to Earth. I saw that. That was awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
From the Washington Post, Netanyah who says Israeli strikes the
killed hundreds in Gaza are quote just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, probably for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Ye USA today after Trump putin call, Russia agrees to
limited Ukraine ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Their main point that Putin had is you need to
stop view the United States needs to stop arming Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So that's a heck of a thing.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
You start a fight with me and tell me you
stop punching me, and I'll stop punching you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But you started it right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And it's a limited, conditional ceasefire for limited time that
will be broken immediately. And he has gigantic demands to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Sits significantly from breakbart dot com.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Trump administration ends translation services for Immigration Agency after declaring
English the official US language.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Okay, I don't know how they use the translators. I mean,
you got some Chinese national coming across the border. You
can yell at him in English as much as you want,
But yeah, I need to know more.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
From the Daily Mail, musk hating hackers release names and
addresses of every Tesla owner in the United States with
a chilling symbol. The cursor turned into a Molotov cocktail dope.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
That's kind of interesting. I mean, I can't drive down
the street in the Tesla. It's not like I'm hiding it,
so yeah, but the address. Who knows what these monsters
will do? From the New York Times, No, I don't
like these times. I do not like these times.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I need a time machine or I don't know, just
go out into the woods and watch the squirrels covortas
I've threatened for years.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
From the New York Times, oil and.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Gas executives to visit the White House to discuss tariffs
and regulation.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, where this ends, nobody knows, really, it's madness.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
From ABC.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Last decade was Earth's hot ever, as CO two levels
reach an eight hundred thousand year high.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So I don't know if that's a big deal or not.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I mentioned the other day that in my home
state of Kansas, they had a dust storm maybe sawt
in the news that caused a fifty car pile up.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
With semis and everything like that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Because of dust, which never happened when I lived there.
My brother had sent me this text from Western Kasis.
We've got a full blown blizzard today that closed the interstate.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It was eighty four degrees yesterday. WHOA, that's some weird weather.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Holy cats, And who was the source of that highest
co two in eight hundred thousand years?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's ABC News? Okay, all right or not?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Or you know what, I'm gonna sell my park and
buy some shorts that Soto. Hold on to my parka
and my shorts, according to your brother's experience, keep them handy.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You might need them this afternoon, both of them. Right
from Yahoo News.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Kanye West overshadowed by yet another social media meltdown.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ooh, I didn't know he had a new album come out.
I'll have to check that out today on the drive home. Yeah, yeah,
there is controversy over the new album Jack.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
As you might expect, it's not hinged.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Does that have anything to do with the fact that
he's completely nuts and his self proclaimed himself a Nazi?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
He his Twitter yesterday and it's still up right now.
I gotta check it out, like a couple hundred all caps,
just nonsense.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I know he really needs a conservator like Britney Spears.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. I think Kim Kardashian tried
to be that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And finally the Babylon.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Bee CIA files reveal JFK was killed by seed oils.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They are so good. Have you dug into that at all? Jack,
not a bit.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I saw a keys on the Fox News last night
and then they never got around to it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah. I've got a fair amount of information on it.
They do the big takeaway. Oh yes, Joe with the
big takeaway on the JFK assassination files coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, I can't wait, arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
We definitely offered to return the astronauts earlier. That's there's
no question about that. The astronauts were only supposed to
be there for eight days, and they've been there for
almost ten months, so obviously that doesn't make any sense.
SpaceX could have brought the astionals back after a few
months at most, and we made that offer to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It was rejected for political reasons, and that's just a fact.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
White House. The Biden White House says that's not true.
Uan says it is. Maybe that'll get hashed out in
the media today. If that is true, that's a heck
of a thing.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Those astronauts on a suit old man Biden or doctor Jail,
fake doctor or somebody I mean being stuck up, although
they are astronauts and seem to be like at least
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he loved it.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well yeah, I mean like I was supposed to go
play Augusta National for an afternoon and I got stuck
there and had to stay for nine months.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I mean, sorry, honey, I miss you. You know, they're
probably your honeymoon. Something happened in your honeymoon had to
last three weeks instead of one week.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, you to be angry about that. I had a word,
miss work. Damn it right, I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The Trump administration yesterday released more than thirty thousand pages
of previously classified or censored documents relating to the death
of former President J F.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
CA John F.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Kennedy that some would had hoped would provide answers to
decades old questions about the assassination. Trump said last year
on the campaign trail he would disclose those documents if elected,
and on Monday, he said most of the eighty thousand
remaining pages would be released in full. I don't know
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why they're just going over them now for national security
sources and methods and that sort of thing reasons, but
that'll become a little more clear, I think as we talk.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
About this, well, well, yeah, and yesterday we talked about
what a small percentage of the total pages on the
JFK investigation. This is, yeah, for most of them have
been released. But you got to wonder why did they
hold these back? You know, it makes me interested, right.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Absolutely, and I think though the answer might not be
as like direct and wow ish as some people hope,
it's going to be interesting for sure. It already is
to me now, I will tell you this, having released
thirty thousand pages like a day ago, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
A heck of a lot to go through.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And depending on who you look at, they have different
accounts of what's the most interesting part. I'm just gonna
hit you with a couple of things that I found
really interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
The New York Post is is their won't have gone
with the most jazzy sexy stuff, whether it's the most
significant or not, as in the Ivy Beholder. But some
of the interesting snippets being poured over quoting now include
documents shedding light on theories eyeing a small clique in
the CIA being involved, as well as an apparent KGB
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investigation to find out if SaaS and Lee RV. Hoswald
was one of its agents. And I've read tons on
this in my lifetime. It is amazing Lee Harvey Oswald's
connection to the Soviet Union at very points of life
and then no tying them to the assassination.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I mean, that is one hell of a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, yeah, And we'll get to that if we have time,
because there are a lot of different levels of relationships
you can have, especially with intelligence services. But this is interesting.
A memo dated June sixty seven details how a former
US Army intelligence officer, Gary Underhill, fled d C Washington,
DC very agitated.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's a quote.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The day after Kennedy was shot, and spoke with a
friend about how a quote small clique within the CIA
was behind the assassination. Six months before he was found
dead in his apartment. He was very agitated. A small
clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided,
and he was afraid for his life and probably would
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have to leave the country, the memo reads. Less than
six months months later, Underhill was found dead, shot to
death in his Washington apartment.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The coroner ruled it a suicide. That's pretty damned interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Underhill, former US Army captain who worked as an intelligence
officer during World War Two, was said to be on
quote a first name basis with many of the top
brass in the Pentagon, and on intimate terms with a
number of high ranking CIA officials. The friends whomunder Hill
visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say
he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA click, which
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was carrying on a lucrative racket and gun running, narcotics
and other contraband, and the Click allegedly killed Kennedy because
he caught wind of their business and was killed before
he could blow them the right.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
So that's that's why the Kennedy assassination has always made
for such great movies or speculation or books whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
All the pieces are there for just all kinds of
different theories. Lee Harvey Oswald in case you're whatever, He's
not somebody who ever spent much time looking.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He moved there and lived there for a while and
met with Soviet agents right yeah, yeah, and sought asylum
there on multiple occasions, and Cuba again.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One more note on mister Underhill.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
His suicide was called into question since he was found
with a gunshot wound behind his left ear, but his
writing partner who found his body said he was right handed,
so very very odd he would use his left.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Hand to kill himself.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
A classic you know, TV detective ish, Wait a minute, now,
let's see and the another document, teletype US intelligence report
from November of ninety one, said a KGB official named
Nikanov investigated whether Oswald had been a KGB agent. Nikanov
is now confident that Oswald was at no time an
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agent controlled by the KGB, the document says.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The film the file rather.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Also noted that KGB was watching him closely and constantly
while he was in the USSR, and also noted Oswald
was a poor shot when he tried target firing in
the USSR. Also had a stormy relationship with his Soviet wife,
who rode him incessantly.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
That's from a KGB file. Hey, hey, hey, you don't
need to put that in my file. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, or the FSB file at the time. So
that's that's pretty interesting. I want to get to putting
aside just for the moment, some of the jazzier stuff.
I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's account of the
thousands of pages their people poured through. Let's see, it
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was Sinatra angry that JFK had betted his girlfriend Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Some of the documents have faded typewritten text and hadn't
written notes. Others contained faint classified secret markings. The documents
appear to address a range of topics, from a trip
Oswald took to Finland to a two hundred and ten
dollars rent reminder for a CIA safehouse in Maryland, to
the financing of covert operations. Let's see, they actually refer
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to mister Nosenko again, the former KGB guy. The a
arrange for two Washington Post reporters to interview him about
his knowledge of Oswald when he lived in the so Union.
They also reimbursed him for his expenses that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Obviously, the most explosive thing would be if the CIA
took out a president of the United States, because even
if we could nail down that it was the Soviet
Union at this point, I mean, that's interesting, but that
entity no longer exists.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
They were an enemy of the United States. It's not
shocking the heck of a thing.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But if it turned out to be our own government,
you know, the CIA, where now that would be just
you know, oh my god, head's explode.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Why what do you do with this bubbo devastating your heath? Shaking?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It would change laws and the structure of government and
all sorts of I could tell you what Bobby thought
when it happened, because it's in the LBJ books written
by Caro. He thought that the mob finally got to
them because Bobby Kennedy, as Attorney General, had been at
war with organized crime death threats is constantly. Was his
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first thoughts, was the mob finally pulled it off? Well,
and a lot of the conspiracy theories quote unquote have
to do with the nexus between the CIA and the mob,
and hey, look who are both in on this?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, you got guys, We got guys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Anyway, one of the more interesting takeaways for me, and
it's not really sexy exactly, but I'll just read you
this and then make the point. Documents released Tuesday help
explain why some of the materials have remained.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Secret for decades.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
CIA operations that could be exposed span dozens of countries
from Japan to Zaiir, requiring officials to assess the damage
that disclosure would bring to spy programs in each nation. Quote,
public acknowledgment of a station in India would be a problem.
US and India foreign relations are always delicate. The Indian
government is very sensitive to perceived slights, one official wrote
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in nineteen ninety five. Disclosure of CIA operations in Berlin,
on the other hand, would cause quote no specific damage,
the official.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Wrote, Yeah, but that's what we said.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, today, systems and methods, I mean, where do we
get our information that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You can't be given that away, right exactly. There's a
little more, and then again there's a point to be made.
The documents, many of them fully redacted, provide a rare
window in the overlap between covert action and state craft.
One CIA document from nineteen sixty recounts how Mexico's president,
who had spoken publicly against American intervention in Cuba, praised
American plans to oust Castro Lopez Mateos that's the president
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asked the CIA's local station to convey the President Eisenhower
that he has quote delighted that a decision has now
been made to get rid of Castro while he was
shouting and beating his chest in public, makes perfect sounds
to keep that secret awful.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And they go into what time is it? You know,
we got a second. That sort of thing happens all
the time.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
By the way, it'd be like MBS in Saudi Arabia
saying take out the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Somebody's got to do it, but he's not going to
say that out loud right exactly for instance. And then
let's get back into this later. They go into a
great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the
Cubans and Oswal's desire to hook up with one or
both of them, and how aggressively they researched it. But
here's the part the twist that I wanted to get to,
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and just by coincidence, Holman Jenkins, who writes editorials for
the Wall Street Journal once a week or whatever it is,
wrote a great piece today, Nobody wants the COVID truth.
Why Western intelligence agencies helped Putin and she keep their
darkest secrets. And he starts with the fact, well, actually
(28:36):
he starts with In nineteen seventy eight, scientists quickly concluded
that the previous year's global flu pandemic originated in the
lab league in China or Russia, but they chose not
to advertise their findings because their overriding priority was to
protect diplomatic relationships which were warming with Russia and China.
What year was that, nineteen seventy eight?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Wow? Jenkins rights.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
This columns long highlighted a reasoned disinterest of the US
and other Western governments and finding the truth about COVID nineteen,
which would complicate relations with China, and he mentions the
CIA finally five years later said yeah, it's probably a
lab leak, but.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We have low confidence.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Low confidence the diplomatically vital caveat Jenkins calls it. German
intelligence apparently concluded as far back as twenty twenty with
high confidence that a lab mishap was responsible, but that
finding was only leaked this month, followed by frantic cover
your ass activities by German politicians concerned about relations with Beijing.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
So for anybody who's wondering how we got from JFK
to COVID. So this is just the sometimes they keeps
off secret to keep things smooth with other countries.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, the intelligence services and the civilian controllers of them
will absolute lo soft pedal the evil doings of our
adversaries and enemies. If they have diplomatic goals that the
truth that the American people are howling for would would
be comfortable.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Boy, And that's a problem because there's a lot of
judgment calls involved in that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Uh yeah, up to an including China killing millions of
effing people. Wow, that's soft pedal this, it would be
it would ratchet up, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Tensions when you can picture all kinds of bad judgment
calls being made around that because your particular world is
so important to you, your relationships with batperson.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Sure right, And how wrong we're Nixon and the Kissinger
about Chinese intentions.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, that's interesting stuff. That's deep state stuff right there. Well,
that's that's why I brought it up. It all fits. Yeah,
how about the magic bullet? Do we get into that
at all? How did you make to I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Get move into a cabin in the woods and start
firing off manifestos and blowing off people's fingers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
But it's enough to make you pretty cynics.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Good to know we've gotten a mailbag on the way.
Stay here. So I don't get a big kick out
of the daily My team did this, their team did that,
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
But I do get a real big kick out of
just like bright line, philosophical divides between people who have
a conservative mindset and people who have a progressive mindset.
And we got a great example of that from Chuck
Schumer on The View yesterday that we'll get into an
hour two. I mean, you either agree with him, and
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I know lots of people who had nod their head,
or you're horrified at his point of view about your money.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
So stay tuned for that an hour or two.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I just respect the fact that anybody fixed their eyeballs
to that dumpster fire and watched it long enough to
comprehend what was I saw.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
A clip of it on Twitter, not like I'm going
home and watching the View in my in my spirit time.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Here's your freedom.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Love and quote of the day, continuing our series from
Theodore Roosevelt, the pacifist is as surely a traitor to
his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
That is so true. That is so true.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
But man, you get into it if you try to
if you try to talk to a pacifist and say, look,
you're really just taking more war and death. Well, and
you're just taking the intellectual easy way out. You're unwilling
to engage in reality. So don't waste my time. I mean,
it's a very insulting thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I would like to read the rest of that paragraph.
Hear more of TR's reasoning. Very little time, though, So
let's get right now. So let's get to mail bag.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Woo woo. Why don't you communicate?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Hmm, drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong egeeddi
dot com is the email address. Give him as short
as is reasonable. I mean, if you're brilliant, and that
brilliant voice to me, go on for a while.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's fuck.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
James writes just a few words. First of all, there's
no such thing as Twitter, it doesn't exist. Second, Jackson, idiot,
Joseph moron, sincerely James, and he signs his full name.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I would like to break down between idiot and moron.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, James, if you could write back and elucidate a
little further, we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
There's one rank higher than the other. I don't know. Well,
I think we both want to know that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Who is the greater maroon in in your opinion? Sir
JT and livermore frequent correspondent writes, I can't be the
only person who hears about those astronauts who them marked
on a very short tripped outer space and only ended
up stranded there for a very long time. I can't
be the only one who hears that and thinks of
the Gilligan's Island theme song.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
A three hour tour, A three hour tour.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Surely some musically creative person could put together a spoof
music video. It's got to be out there, or have
your computer do it? Ay, I could do it in
like a minute. Speaking of Ai note, let's see Mark
yesterday you find Jen spoke of the seven Dwarfs being
done via CGI and yet though in the idiot snow
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White movie, and their voices still have to be done
by actual dwarves. Though why, I mean, if a man
can play a woman get nominated for an oscar, why
can't a large or normal sized person. Do the voices
of dwarfs and the cgi snow White love the show?
Katie's great the perfect amount of great American sarcasm.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wow, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Signs off from Frog's Nipple. Ohio, I've never been a
frog nipples since, but it's lovely this time here speaking
of the awful, awful Snow White movie that nobody will see,
Garrick Wrights, you made no mention that Disney loves diversity
so much that they can't even make snow White white.
If there was one character you'd think they'd leave alone,
unlike the Little Mermaid, for instance, it'd be snow effing white.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I see the hispanic order of nobody on the right
cares really do that? Don't care? No, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I got to admit it be weird if she was
black and called herself snow white. But whatever, I'm not
gonna see the movie anyway. Oh, we're out of time,
damn it, the cruelty of the clock. We've got plenty
more hours to go.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Arm who live from studio scene, say to Wednesday, are
you excited at that halfway did the finish line?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Or I'm strong and getting in a dimly lit room
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you for hours to come.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And today we're under the food ledge of our general manager.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Let's go with Sonny Williams and Butch will Moore, the
recently returned astronauts.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
There as two of them.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
There indeed were two of them. There are two of
them there continue to be two of them.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yes, and they're the ones that I saw land in
the ocean last night.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That is correct. Well, plucky, plucky gal, plucky guy. It's
amazing what nine months in space due to you, though,
I mean they are weak, weak acts. They ought to
get to They're tough enough. Zero gravity, your muscles wither
away and your bones get less dense, and your eyeballs
are prone to floating out of their sockets on their
(01:31):
day last part up.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
But it's it's rough on a human being.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Which brings to mind jack the illumined question, how the
hell can we get somebody to Mars and have them
be anything other than just a glob of jelly isometric exercises,
That's what I say.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, I was listening to an old astronautic who said
you recover pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So but uh yeah, I heard Elon.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
We got some clips that Elan, he didn't interview last night,
talking about going to Mars.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Quite the deal. I hope I live long enough to
do it.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
He said, twenty to twenty to thirty years before there's
like a space station there. I don't know when he's
expecting to actually have a human being just go there.
I don't think there's any plan to come back, right.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Right, yeah, a space station manned by humans there, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
that's the whole point.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
He's so much for robotics these days. No, Elon that, well,
that wouldn't do us any good. Elon's entire point is
that we need to be the first species, probably in
the universe, to be multiplanetary. He believes if there has
ever been other intelligent life, it's because it died out
because it was on one planet. Eventually, a planet dies
out for a number of reasons or destroys itself or whatever.
(02:42):
You need to be multiplanetary to continue as a species,
and the only way to do that is to get
to Mars and have people there also.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, that's this is why you're not in charge of
the program. To dismiss my ideas. That wouldn't do any good.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The robots would get there and build the facilities that
were need it well, so the humans could move in.
It's like a move in ready condo on Mars. The
robots would put up the wallpaper and paint and rearrange
the furniture a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Still they're happy with it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I know I'm not gonna live long enough for this.
This is the part I would really like to see.
Is you get enough people up there that you start
to have a society that then has exactly the same
problems we've had here on Earth. And then maybe everybody
finally realizes once and for all, it's just freaking human nature.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Wait what, I'm making a Macaulay Culkin face.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
There wasn't a Trump on Mars that caused people to
act this way or something else, right, that would be something,
wouldn't it if if that just brought us like an
extra year and a half after Earth destroys itself.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The people on Mars are doing exactly the same thing.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
But you're gonna have the first crime on Earth first,
or on Mars the first time somebody you know comes
back in and their uh, I don't know, their gyroscope
is missing. And Fred's first crime first murder first, you know,
out of wedlock, baby whatever. Sure, somebody gets a little
drunk on space rum and takes a swing at somebody else.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, right, you'll have to have a space jail.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
And I don't know if people understand that that's happening,
and you know, speaking to that, clearly, politics or space
has been politicized now in the way that everything else
is politicized. The coverage of yesterday's Return of the Astronauts
depend on what channel you were watching.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They either mentioned elon Musk, space X and.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
All that endlessly or they mentioned it not at all,
depending on the channel the channel you were watching. Because
space has become politicized just.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Like everything else.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I was actually mildly surprised to see ABC News in
a bit of detail go over the whole Boeing swung
and missed and SpaceX succeeded.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
I was listening to NPR today and unless I missed it,
there was nary a mention of SpaceX's role in the
whole thing. NASA, NASA, NASA, NASSA, just lots of NASSA
government program.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Did this government program? Did that? NPR is a funny,
funny joke.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And well they did have a good interview with an
astronaut talking about I'd never heard anybody. I've heard astronaut
since I was a little kid. Joe and I grew
up in the golden age of SpaceX co exploration, when
we're going to the Moon and whatnot, and I would
alwa's heard about Uncle Neil Armstrong holds a fairly prominent
place in the history. And now I've forgotten the word.
(05:31):
The word applies to my son because it's a problem
he had as a little kid. Are the human body
needs pressure against it, particularly to the bottoms of your
feet in your hands, to help orient it in the world,
or your brain gets all out of whack. And that's
the big problem. It's not the muscles after fying, it's
that you have no none of that feedback on any
of your body for a length of time, and it
(05:52):
makes your brain go crazy. And that's the biggest adjustment
that astronauts have to make. And I'd never heard that before,
but it makes perfect sense, and it's really awful, like
an awful, awful feeling. I'd always only heard about it
described as muscle atrophying, and that's why they're that way
and all wildling. No, no, no, no, it's the they've had
no feedback on their body through their the normal spaces
(06:14):
of walking around and pushing off of things, and their
brain is out of whack, right, it takes a while
for that to come back into whack.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I heard Brettbaar was talking to who's the senator from
Arizona whose brother was an astronaut. Yeah, the the Kelly
brother who is an astronaut, was talking about coming back
from a rather extended space mission, and he was talking
about having hives, having painful skin pace hives because something
(06:42):
to do with without the pressure, his skin changed and
then when the pressure came back again, it was extremely
sensitive and he had if you've.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Never had hives, it's it's it's like torture.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
The astronaut I heard interviewed said he's five eleven, but
when he came back he was six one. Then only
lasted a couple of days and he went back to
five eleven. That's how much you stretched out when you're
not squished down by gravity all the time. I wonder
how tall I am. I'm probably seven feet tall. When
will we fight back against our oppressor of gravity?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Right? I didn't love gravity? Who voted for that? Who
passed it? It's the dictatorship of gravity, That's what I say.
Who was with me? Yes, Katie?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Well, you guys remember that documentary that Arnold was in,
the Total Recall in Space Mutations?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yes, oh yes, another thing to worry about.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
We learned a great deal from that, yes, yes, yes,
well and speaking up for the women folk in space,
you don't have to worry about you know, support garments
or anything, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Your poms cal Yes, it's just so great.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Everything just stays like your nineteen year old college freshman
for you know, permanently awesome.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I like all of this. Let's start the show officially.
I'm Jack Armstrong Joe Getty on this is how did
it already get to be Wednesday March nineteenth or twenty
twenty five or Armstrong and Getty, and we approved this program.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
How many women would willingly be set to space for
two months a year if it preserved to a large
extent their late teen's early twenties body for an extra decade.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I don't know every single one of us.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Oh boy, all right, let's begin the show officially now.
According to FCC rules and regulations here, we got a
lot to get to at.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Mark Brace for splashdown and splashdown Crew nine back on
our snip, Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Butch sunny On behalf of SpaceX Welcome Home. That's a splashdown.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I wouldn't call it violent exactly, but it's like one
step short of violent when you actually hit the water.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I noticed they.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Hit it at an angle, so the flat part of
the craft doesn't contact the water. It kind of noses
in like a wag, which I'm sure is part of
the design.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
But I wonder how jostling that is. So we'll play
the clip a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
But Elon, in an interview last night, said they offered
the Biden administration to go up there and get those astronauts,
and the Biden administration wouldn't deal with them out of politics.
Elon says, because of politics. Biden didn't let their technology
go get these astronauts. That's why it happened right after
Trump became president. Now Biden administration is saying that's not true.
(09:30):
The timing is a little suspicious. The fact that it
didn't happen during Biden and then Trump's president. That happens
pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
So well, the.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Biden administration told us Old Show is doing great. In
fact he was better, never was fit to go for
another term.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
The evidence I only need is I've said this one
hundred times, is just you talk about climate change, you
talk about all the electric cars in America, and never
mentioned Tesla.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
That's all I need to know. You don't mention the
number one by far electric car company because of politics.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Even though it's a an existential threat to the extent
that you have terrified generations of children over it, and
yet we're.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Leading the electric car company in the country. It's pretended
doesn't exist.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And that was not Elon is with Trump at that time,
that was all. Tesla doesn't have the United Auto Workers
union that GM and Ford and everybody has.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
But now, of course Elon is Hitler. We got Katie's.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Headlines on the way we've got some mail bag, we
got some other news we got we know something about
the Trump Putin call from yesterday. Putin's asking for a lot,
as I think was predicted, what we give him. I
don't know. Israel as we speak is bombing Gaza.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They've broken the ceasefire. Jack Corse, the New York Times, Right,
I just heard that on NPR. NPRS, which is running
all these promos.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
You know, they're always begging for money, even though we're
supporting them through tax payer.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Money, among other things.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
NPR runs all these promos about how preserve what do
they call it, not real information, but something like.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
That, objective journalism. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, with the idea that we're the only things standing
between you and just nothing but spun misinformation.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
We're the real.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Partisan objective journalism. You have to help us preserve it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Do they believe that? Do they think a lot of them? Do?
I think they do.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
I know lots of NPR listeners that believe that's the
only news source you can count on to be objective.
I would love to sit down with them and go
through a newscast and point out where they're not objective.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, you form your your view of what's moderate or
what's objective or not based on your observations, and if
you're bubbled, then you will think, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Super far left is moderate.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Got a lot on the way, and our text line
is four one five two nine five KFTC. I don't
know if I'm stealing one of your headlines by teasing this,
but Attorney General Pam Bondi announced yesterday that they're going
to pursue punishments as high as they can against people
who are attacking Tesla dealerships because it's political violence, if
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you will, and we can't tolerate that in America. But
have some of the reactions around that that are pretty
darned interesting.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, well, I agree with her completely.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's reminiscent of the early seventies when there are hundreds
of bombings a year on private property, generally our government buildings,
and it was clearly political terrorism. Go get them scumbags,
all right. We've got a lot to get to today.
As previously mentioned, it's Trump versus the courts. John Roberts
chastises the president very gently, the big potent Trump call.
(12:41):
Got to get to that and much more. Let's figure
out who's reporting what it's leads throws Katy Green, Katy,
this was so cool.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Starting with the Guardian Dolphins welcome NASA astronauts stuck in.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Space back to Earth. I saw that. That was awesome.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
From the Washington Post, Netanyah who says Israeli strikes the
killed hundreds in Gaza are quote just the beginning.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, probably for sure.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Ye USA today after Trump putin call, Russia agrees to
limited Ukraine ceasefire.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Their main point that Putin had is you need to
stop view the United States needs to stop arming Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
So that's a heck of a thing.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
You start a fight with me and tell me you
stop punching me, and I'll stop punching you.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
But you started it right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
And it's a limited, conditional ceasefire for limited time that
will be broken immediately. And he has gigantic demands to
do anything.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Sits significantly from breakbart dot com.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Trump administration ends translation services for Immigration Agency after declaring
English the official US language.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Okay, I don't know how they use the translators. I mean,
you got some Chinese national coming across the border. You
can yell at him in English as much as you want,
But yeah, I need to know more.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
From the Daily Mail, musk hating hackers release names and
addresses of every Tesla owner in the United States with
a chilling symbol. The cursor turned into a Molotov cocktail dope.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
That's kind of interesting. I mean, I can't drive down
the street in the Tesla. It's not like I'm hiding it,
so yeah, but the address. Who knows what these monsters
will do? From the New York Times, No, I don't
like these times. I do not like these times.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I need a time machine or I don't know, just
go out into the woods and watch the squirrels covortas
I've threatened for years.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
From the New York Times, oil and.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Gas executives to visit the White House to discuss tariffs
and regulation.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, where this ends, nobody knows, really, it's madness.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
From ABC.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Last decade was Earth's hot ever, as CO two levels
reach an eight hundred thousand year high.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So I don't know if that's a big deal or not.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
But I mentioned the other day that in my home
state of Kansas, they had a dust storm maybe sawt
in the news that caused a fifty car pile up.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
With semis and everything like that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Because of dust, which never happened when I lived there.
My brother had sent me this text from Western Kasis.
We've got a full blown blizzard today that closed the interstate.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It was eighty four degrees yesterday. WHOA, that's some weird weather.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Holy cats, And who was the source of that highest
co two in eight hundred thousand years?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
That's ABC News? Okay, all right or not?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Or you know what, I'm gonna sell my park and
buy some shorts that Soto. Hold on to my parka
and my shorts, according to your brother's experience, keep them handy.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
You might need them this afternoon, both of them. Right
from Yahoo News.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Kanye West overshadowed by yet another social media meltdown.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Ooh, I didn't know he had a new album come out.
I'll have to check that out today on the drive home. Yeah, yeah,
there is controversy over the new album Jack.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
As you might expect, it's not hinged.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Does that have anything to do with the fact that
he's completely nuts and his self proclaimed himself a Nazi?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
He his Twitter yesterday and it's still up right now.
I gotta check it out, like a couple hundred all caps,
just nonsense.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I know he really needs a conservator like Britney Spears.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think that. I think Kim Kardashian tried
to be that.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And finally the Babylon.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Bee CIA files reveal JFK was killed by seed oils.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
They are so good. Have you dug into that at all? Jack,
not a bit.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I saw a keys on the Fox News last night
and then they never got around to it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah. I've got a fair amount of information on it.
They do the big takeaway. Oh yes, Joe with the
big takeaway on the JFK assassination files coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, I can't wait, arm Strong and Getty.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
We definitely offered to return the astronauts earlier. That's there's
no question about that. The astronauts were only supposed to
be there for eight days, and they've been there for
almost ten months, so obviously that doesn't make any sense.
SpaceX could have brought the astionals back after a few
months at most, and we made that offer to.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
The Biden administration.
Speaker 6 (17:43):
It was rejected for political reasons, and that's just a fact.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
White House. The Biden White House says that's not true.
Uan says it is. Maybe that'll get hashed out in
the media today. If that is true, that's a heck
of a thing.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Those astronauts on a suit old man Biden or doctor Jail,
fake doctor or somebody I mean being stuck up, although
they are astronauts and seem to be like at least
okay with it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe he loved it.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well yeah, I mean like I was supposed to go
play Augusta National for an afternoon and I got stuck
there and had to stay for nine months.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I mean, sorry, honey, I miss you. You know, they're
probably your honeymoon. Something happened in your honeymoon had to
last three weeks instead of one week.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, you to be angry about that. I had a word,
miss work. Damn it right, I get it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
The Trump administration yesterday released more than thirty thousand pages
of previously classified or censored documents relating to the death
of former President J F.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
CA John F.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Kennedy that some would had hoped would provide answers to
decades old questions about the assassination. Trump said last year
on the campaign trail he would disclose those documents if elected,
and on Monday, he said most of the eighty thousand
remaining pages would be released in full. I don't know
(19:11):
why they're just going over them now for national security
sources and methods and that sort of thing reasons, but
that'll become a little more clear, I think as we talk.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
About this, well, well, yeah, and yesterday we talked about
what a small percentage of the total pages on the
JFK investigation. This is, yeah, for most of them have
been released. But you got to wonder why did they
hold these back? You know, it makes me interested, right.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Absolutely, and I think though the answer might not be
as like direct and wow ish as some people hope,
it's going to be interesting for sure. It already is
to me now, I will tell you this, having released
thirty thousand pages like a day ago, that's.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
A heck of a lot to go through.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
And depending on who you look at, they have different
accounts of what's the most interesting part. I'm just gonna
hit you with a couple of things that I found
really interesting.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
The New York Post is is their won't have gone
with the most jazzy sexy stuff, whether it's the most
significant or not, as in the Ivy Beholder. But some
of the interesting snippets being poured over quoting now include
documents shedding light on theories eyeing a small clique in
the CIA being involved, as well as an apparent KGB
(20:28):
investigation to find out if SaaS and Lee RV. Hoswald
was one of its agents. And I've read tons on
this in my lifetime. It is amazing Lee Harvey Oswald's
connection to the Soviet Union at very points of life
and then no tying them to the assassination.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I mean, that is one hell of a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah, yeah, And we'll get to that if we have time,
because there are a lot of different levels of relationships
you can have, especially with intelligence services. But this is interesting.
A memo dated June sixty seven details how a former
US Army intelligence officer, Gary Underhill, fled d C Washington,
DC very agitated.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
That's a quote.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
The day after Kennedy was shot, and spoke with a
friend about how a quote small clique within the CIA
was behind the assassination. Six months before he was found
dead in his apartment. He was very agitated. A small
clique within the CIA was responsible for the assassination, he confided,
and he was afraid for his life and probably would
(21:34):
have to leave the country, the memo reads. Less than
six months months later, Underhill was found dead, shot to
death in his Washington apartment.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The coroner ruled it a suicide. That's pretty damned interesting.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Underhill, former US Army captain who worked as an intelligence
officer during World War Two, was said to be on
quote a first name basis with many of the top
brass in the Pentagon, and on intimate terms with a
number of high ranking CIA officials. The friends whomunder Hill
visited say he was sober but badly shook. They say
he attributed the Kennedy murder to a CIA click, which
(22:08):
was carrying on a lucrative racket and gun running, narcotics
and other contraband, and the Click allegedly killed Kennedy because
he caught wind of their business and was killed before
he could blow them the right.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
So that's that's why the Kennedy assassination has always made
for such great movies or speculation or books whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
All the pieces are there for just all kinds of
different theories. Lee Harvey Oswald in case you're whatever, He's
not somebody who ever spent much time looking.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
He freaking lived in the Soviet Union for a while.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
He moved there and lived there for a while and
met with Soviet agents right yeah, yeah, and sought asylum
there on multiple occasions, and Cuba again.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One more note on mister Underhill.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
His suicide was called into question since he was found
with a gunshot wound behind his left ear, but his
writing partner who found his body said he was right handed,
so very very odd he would use his left.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Hand to kill himself.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
A classic you know, TV detective ish, Wait a minute, now,
let's see and the another document, teletype US intelligence report
from November of ninety one, said a KGB official named
Nikanov investigated whether Oswald had been a KGB agent. Nikanov
is now confident that Oswald was at no time an
(23:24):
agent controlled by the KGB, the document says.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
The film the file rather.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Also noted that KGB was watching him closely and constantly
while he was in the USSR, and also noted Oswald
was a poor shot when he tried target firing in
the USSR. Also had a stormy relationship with his Soviet wife,
who rode him incessantly.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
That's from a KGB file. Hey, hey, hey, you don't
need to put that in my file. That's embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, or the FSB file at the time. So
that's that's pretty interesting. I want to get to putting
aside just for the moment, some of the jazzier stuff.
I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's account of the
thousands of pages their people poured through. Let's see, it
(24:15):
was Sinatra angry that JFK had betted his girlfriend Marilyn Monroe.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Some of the documents have faded typewritten text and hadn't
written notes. Others contained faint classified secret markings. The documents
appear to address a range of topics, from a trip
Oswald took to Finland to a two hundred and ten
dollars rent reminder for a CIA safehouse in Maryland, to
the financing of covert operations. Let's see, they actually refer
(24:49):
to mister Nosenko again, the former KGB guy. The a
arrange for two Washington Post reporters to interview him about
his knowledge of Oswald when he lived in the so Union.
They also reimbursed him for his expenses that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Obviously, the most explosive thing would be if the CIA
took out a president of the United States, because even
if we could nail down that it was the Soviet
Union at this point, I mean, that's interesting, but that
entity no longer exists.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
They were an enemy of the United States. It's not
shocking the heck of a thing.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
But if it turned out to be our own government,
you know, the CIA, where now that would be just
you know, oh my god, head's explode.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Why what do you do with this bubbo devastating your heath? Shaking?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It would change laws and the structure of government and
all sorts of I could tell you what Bobby thought
when it happened, because it's in the LBJ books written
by Caro. He thought that the mob finally got to
them because Bobby Kennedy, as Attorney General, had been at
war with organized crime death threats is constantly. Was his
(26:00):
first thoughts, was the mob finally pulled it off? Well,
and a lot of the conspiracy theories quote unquote have
to do with the nexus between the CIA and the mob,
and hey, look who are both in on this?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, you got guys, We got guys.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Anyway, one of the more interesting takeaways for me, and
it's not really sexy exactly, but I'll just read you
this and then make the point. Documents released Tuesday help
explain why some of the materials have remained.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Secret for decades.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
CIA operations that could be exposed span dozens of countries
from Japan to Zaiir, requiring officials to assess the damage
that disclosure would bring to spy programs in each nation. Quote,
public acknowledgment of a station in India would be a problem.
US and India foreign relations are always delicate. The Indian
government is very sensitive to perceived slights, one official wrote
(26:51):
in nineteen ninety five. Disclosure of CIA operations in Berlin,
on the other hand, would cause quote no specific damage,
the official.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Wrote, Yeah, but that's what we said.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, today, systems and methods, I mean, where do we
get our information that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
You can't be given that away, right exactly. There's a
little more, and then again there's a point to be made.
The documents, many of them fully redacted, provide a rare
window in the overlap between covert action and state craft.
One CIA document from nineteen sixty recounts how Mexico's president,
who had spoken publicly against American intervention in Cuba, praised
American plans to oust Castro Lopez Mateos that's the president
(27:27):
asked the CIA's local station to convey the President Eisenhower
that he has quote delighted that a decision has now
been made to get rid of Castro while he was
shouting and beating his chest in public, makes perfect sounds
to keep that secret awful.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
And they go into what time is it? You know,
we got a second. That sort of thing happens all
the time.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
By the way, it'd be like MBS in Saudi Arabia
saying take out the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Somebody's got to do it, but he's not going to
say that out loud right exactly for instance. And then
let's get back into this later. They go into a
great deal of the relationship between the Soviets and the
Cubans and Oswal's desire to hook up with one or
both of them, and how aggressively they researched it. But
here's the part the twist that I wanted to get to,
(28:15):
and just by coincidence, Holman Jenkins, who writes editorials for
the Wall Street Journal once a week or whatever it is,
wrote a great piece today, Nobody wants the COVID truth.
Why Western intelligence agencies helped Putin and she keep their
darkest secrets. And he starts with the fact, well, actually
(28:36):
he starts with In nineteen seventy eight, scientists quickly concluded
that the previous year's global flu pandemic originated in the
lab league in China or Russia, but they chose not
to advertise their findings because their overriding priority was to
protect diplomatic relationships which were warming with Russia and China.
What year was that, nineteen seventy eight?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Wow? Jenkins rights.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
This columns long highlighted a reasoned disinterest of the US
and other Western governments and finding the truth about COVID nineteen,
which would complicate relations with China, and he mentions the
CIA finally five years later said yeah, it's probably a
lab leak, but.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
We have low confidence.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Low confidence the diplomatically vital caveat Jenkins calls it. German
intelligence apparently concluded as far back as twenty twenty with
high confidence that a lab mishap was responsible, but that
finding was only leaked this month, followed by frantic cover
your ass activities by German politicians concerned about relations with Beijing.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
So for anybody who's wondering how we got from JFK
to COVID. So this is just the sometimes they keeps
off secret to keep things smooth with other countries.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, the intelligence services and the civilian controllers of them
will absolute lo soft pedal the evil doings of our
adversaries and enemies. If they have diplomatic goals that the
truth that the American people are howling for would would
be comfortable.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Boy, And that's a problem because there's a lot of
judgment calls involved in that.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Uh yeah, up to an including China killing millions of
effing people. Wow, that's soft pedal this, it would be
it would ratchet up, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Tensions when you can picture all kinds of bad judgment
calls being made around that because your particular world is
so important to you, your relationships with batperson.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Sure right, And how wrong we're Nixon and the Kissinger
about Chinese intentions.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah, that's interesting stuff. That's deep state stuff right there. Well,
that's that's why I brought it up. It all fits. Yeah,
how about the magic bullet? Do we get into that
at all? How did you make to I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Get move into a cabin in the woods and start
firing off manifestos and blowing off people's fingers.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
But it's enough to make you pretty cynics.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Good to know we've gotten a mailbag on the way.
Stay here. So I don't get a big kick out
of the daily My team did this, their team did that,
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
But I do get a real big kick out of
just like bright line, philosophical divides between people who have
a conservative mindset and people who have a progressive mindset.
And we got a great example of that from Chuck
Schumer on The View yesterday that we'll get into an
hour two. I mean, you either agree with him, and
(31:44):
I know lots of people who had nod their head,
or you're horrified at his point of view about your money.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
So stay tuned for that an hour or two.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I just respect the fact that anybody fixed their eyeballs
to that dumpster fire and watched it long enough to
comprehend what was I saw.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
A clip of it on Twitter, not like I'm going
home and watching the View in my in my spirit time.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Here's your freedom.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Love and quote of the day, continuing our series from
Theodore Roosevelt, the pacifist is as surely a traitor to
his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
That is so true. That is so true.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
But man, you get into it if you try to
if you try to talk to a pacifist and say, look,
you're really just taking more war and death. Well, and
you're just taking the intellectual easy way out. You're unwilling
to engage in reality. So don't waste my time. I mean,
it's a very insulting thing to say, but it's true.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I would like to read the rest of that paragraph.
Hear more of TR's reasoning. Very little time, though, So
let's get right now. So let's get to mail bag.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Woo woo. Why don't you communicate?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Hmm, drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong egeeddi
dot com is the email address. Give him as short
as is reasonable. I mean, if you're brilliant, and that
brilliant voice to me, go on for a while.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
That's fuck.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
James writes just a few words. First of all, there's
no such thing as Twitter, it doesn't exist. Second, Jackson, idiot,
Joseph moron, sincerely James, and he signs his full name.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I would like to break down between idiot and moron.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, James, if you could write back and elucidate a
little further, we'd appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
There's one rank higher than the other. I don't know. Well,
I think we both want to know that. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Who is the greater maroon in in your opinion? Sir
JT and livermore frequent correspondent writes, I can't be the
only person who hears about those astronauts who them marked
on a very short tripped outer space and only ended
up stranded there for a very long time. I can't
be the only one who hears that and thinks of
the Gilligan's Island theme song.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
A three hour tour, A three hour tour.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Surely some musically creative person could put together a spoof
music video. It's got to be out there, or have
your computer do it? Ay, I could do it in
like a minute. Speaking of Ai note, let's see Mark
yesterday you find Jen spoke of the seven Dwarfs being
done via CGI and yet though in the idiot snow
(34:08):
White movie, and their voices still have to be done
by actual dwarves. Though why, I mean, if a man
can play a woman get nominated for an oscar, why
can't a large or normal sized person. Do the voices
of dwarfs and the cgi snow White love the show?
Katie's great the perfect amount of great American sarcasm.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wow, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Signs off from Frog's Nipple. Ohio, I've never been a
frog nipples since, but it's lovely this time here speaking
of the awful, awful Snow White movie that nobody will see,
Garrick Wrights, you made no mention that Disney loves diversity
so much that they can't even make snow White white.
If there was one character you'd think they'd leave alone,
unlike the Little Mermaid, for instance, it'd be snow effing white.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I see the hispanic order of nobody on the right
cares really do that? Don't care? No, I don't care.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I got to admit it be weird if she was
black and called herself snow white. But whatever, I'm not
gonna see the movie anyway. Oh, we're out of time,
damn it, the cruelty of the clock. We've got plenty
more hours to go.
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