March 19, 2025 • 12 mins
Things you don't need, but bring happiness...and Hitchhiking is back!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are those FreeDOS? Are those fredos? Get out? Now? It's
one more.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thing, Armstrong and Getty, one more thing before we get
to the delicious Freedo. I mentioned on the Armstrong e
Getty Show that I was at Costco yesterday and they
had on display their new ninety eight inch television. And
I've seen some really big TVs before, but the picture
(00:26):
wasn't that great. This ninety eight incher was. That was
really impressive. I mean it was like super great oled
whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And I was, that's seven feet.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I got more. I got a seventy seven, which is
a pretty big television eight feet and this was way
bigger than that. They had them side by side because
they know what they're god, I know, and it was
weird how I wanted that, That's what I was just.
It was just like you talk about wants versus needs.
I mean, nobody needs that. I don't need that on
any level whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I like, I'd get ahead ache because I mean, how
far away from that thing you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have to be in order to not well the picture
is so great, Like with my my super big television
not as big as this, and you can have your
face right up against it and it's perfect. It's amazing
the technology they've gotten.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, but I think for most people there's a ratio
of distance from screen to screen size that bigger is
not always better.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I'm certainly willing to push the bound.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, depends on a refresh rate. That's what it's all about,
the way my brain works. But I don't know, it's
just but just in general, wanting various things you don't need.
I philosophically, I just I love that whole topic. I
talk about with my kids a lot. I think about
it my own life. Wants versus needs. But but something
that is not a need, but it brings you consistent happiness. Yeah,
(01:50):
you know, assuming you can afford something ish. You know,
if you enjoy something on an ongoing basis. Is that?
Now what are we alive for? Man? Way, we've all
purchased things that like after the first time you use
it or very soon it's just to give me, brings
you no pleasure you thought it would have, didn't. I mean,
(02:12):
so those things I hate. I hate when I do that.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And if you do the crappy, tedious, grinding stuff and
get through it and you re energize by watching, I
don't know an eight foot TV?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You know what's interesting psychologically is the not universal, but
damn near universal lust for a larger and larger TV
among males.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And you know what, Katie, it's not like showing off
or anything. I don't care if anybody ever sees it
button me.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know nobody will see it but me and my house.
Well it's a good point. Hey, you're the perfect example.
But if I'm sitting there in my man cave with
my wall sized TV watching I mentioned the Masters on
the show, I'm very, very happy. But the world, well,
that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's like, you know, Jack, if this TV makes you happy,
it makes your kids happy, so it means you're a
good father. I see it wins all across the board.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
As you're getting this, what depends why it brings you happiness?
I'm sure Like I don't. I've talked about like I
don't care about home decoration stuff like certain countertops mean
nothing to me. I would get zero happiness out of that.
But I know people that every time they walk into
their kitchen, if they saw that in particular kind of countertop,
they would enjoy it. So fine, I have a.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Countertop that both Judy and I miss really sack. So
reminisce about our counter Wow, how cool it was.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So that's foreign to me. But so it's got to
be one of those things that you're gonna. It's gonna.
I've got a jacket. I know you don't care about clothes,
but I've got a jacket. It was way too expensive.
I enjoy it every time I put it on. I mean,
I just the enjoyment I get out of it, and
it's been consistent for years. It's just it's inexplicable.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I don't care about clothes a lot. Not often.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
When it's when that's time to look good, I'm really
into it. But day to day I couldn't give a crap.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So uh to the.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Move on? Yeah, not really for you to look at
you your assault of the earth, good Presbyterian stock or something.
I don't. I guess I do have a hoodie I
lost years ago that I wish I still had, got
enjoyment out of it every time I did. I just
I could not tell you what happened to it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I wish some dude had not brought that up. Some
dude has it, that's right.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Probably yeah, I I I don't even know if I
can tell this story, I'll get Oliver klemped. See, you
gotta be old enough to remember back when you had
to break in denim yourself, they didn't make fake ass
pre worn guitars and freake fake ass pre worn jeans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
See you've gotta you've got a tear in your jeans.
Oh that's on purpose. Oh, I see, you're a rebel
society lost your pants to be intact. You guys, want
here a fun fact.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A girl that's not wear a pair of jeans that
has holes in it without some guy making a comment,
Oh you got holes in your pits, couldn't afford the
whole pair of jeans.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Shut up for over it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So anyway, But back in that era, when perfectly worn in,
you know, pair of jeans, jeans jacket, whatever, took years
and years of commitment. I had the ultimate perfect jeans jacket,
just perfectly worn in, and I left it exhausted and
sleep deprived in the Amsterdam airport. Some dudes, Yeah, some
(05:40):
fing euro junkie is probably wearing my perfectly worn jeans
jacket that wouldn't fit over my fat ass at this point. Anyway,
probably wearing it around with pride. Fine American Levi's denim
euro junkie. Anyway, to the topic, do sure I've found
(06:00):
this very very interesting. Hitch Hiking is back in Washington,
d C. Except they don't call it hitch hiking. They
call it slugging. That used to be a thing in DC,
and it's back. It's organized hitch hiking. And they open
up its Woodbridge, Virginia, which I know very well. My
(06:22):
daughter used to live there. Almost there. Six forty seven
am recent Wednesday, the commuter lot at this train stop
is started filling with workers and suits, military uniforms and
fleece quarter zips. In the still dark, they formed an
orderly line in Lot eight. Car pulled up, driver rolled
down his window. After a brief exchange, two commuters hopped
in for the thirty minute drive to the Pentagon, zooming
(06:43):
past gridlock traffic.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're headlocking, found floating in the Potomac. No, no, they
were found going to work. Slugging, a Washington, d C.
Tradition is back.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They're commuters who want to bypass the capital's notorious track
and the high tolls. Well, and the drivers want to
bypass the high tolls. That you have to pay to
roll in the express lanes so easily. Either you're inching
long in traffic for interminable amounts of time to get
to work every day, or you're paying thirteen dollars and
(07:18):
thirty five cents to be in the diamond lane the
express lane to get into the city and times, you know,
twenty two work days or whatever it is per month
on average, that think gets really really expensive. And so
everybody is a lot of people line up and it's
like a rideshare thing of park and ride whatever you
(07:39):
want to call it, but slugging matches suburban riders who
are sick of paying or sitting with drivers who are
really looking for somebody to the cost. But the fun
part probably it works really well. Mostly young, upscale clientele
for that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A lot, but not exclusively.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They talked to the ears of forty four year old
forty eight year old one works at a university. A
bunch of people from the Pentagon do this, but there
are absolutely unwritten.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Rules to it.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's like Uber, except you know, it's it's I'm not
doing this for a living, I'm giving you a ride.
We're splitting the cost, so you're gonna be cool. And
actually this this one person actually says people are way
worse since COVID. Interestingly enough, but so slugging has long
(08:33):
had its own culture and etiquette.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
If the driver doesn't talk, you ride in silence.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Love it. Love that. Yeah, you shut your yap. The
driver is in charge of.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How much chitter chat there is.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
If there is conversation, certain topics are considered off limits.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No politics, of course in DC.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I mean, come on, no religion, and you don't say
an effing word about my driving.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not a word.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Seems like you're a little close to that car in
front of us. Ye're out, get out. Trump is bringing
Jesus back to schools, and it's important to me. I
need to get into work. No way, no way, it
takes it. You got a cattle prodect until they jump
(09:25):
out into the the traffic.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Other rules include not graping about the temperature or the
radio station. I love this driver rules. It's like me
with my kids, my car, my station, my rules. I
broke that rule with my brother driving us to the
Chiefs game. I just couldn't take it anymore. Dude, I
can't feel my feet.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm worried. About when we get out of the car,
I'm gonna fall down. I can't feel my feet.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
But since COVID and there have been a handful of
polls I've seen about this, people are ruder than they
were pre COVID. She's this one gallasy regular faux paw.
In recent months, a driver speeding down the road at
more than eighty miles an hour. A rider opening a
bag of free Doo's, filling the car with a scent
(10:15):
she can't stand.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't like people eating around me in a closed space.
Hate that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, you get in my car and you start open
up chip bags, crunch, crunch, crunch again, cattle product.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh I reach over, I open up the door and
I shove you out.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Or the person that snaps her gum, Oh oh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Gonna watch you roll along the ditch in my rear
view mirrors that drive away.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
A friend of mine was snapping her gum the other
day and I looked at it and I went, are
are you serious right now? What?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So, uh yeah, I guess this is increasing in popularity
and back when people are struggling and blah blah blah.
All right, So COVID made us ruder Yeah, that's what
I've seen that in a couple of different places.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm no car pooler, but anytime I'm stuck in like
San Francisco Bay Area traffic or something like that going
into work, I think, for an allegedly smart beast, it's
amazing that this is the way we've all structured our lives.
That we are all individually taking hours out of our
day and hours off of our lives trying to get
to working back, and this is the best we can do.
(11:25):
It's always surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I remember when we used to take calls and we
talked to super commuters, not supercomputers, supercommuters, totally different conversation,
and they would say, essentially, I'm making so much money,
I'm trading my life now for a better life down
the road when I'll be financially secure maybe, which is
(11:50):
a great bargain. Unless you know, the lights go out
before you get a chance to enjoy the fruits of
your labors.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You die, mean, Yeah, that's what I meant.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I meant die.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh, I think unless you're lying to yourself, which I
think is often the case, that you're going to continue
doing this the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Super commuting.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, just like commuting a lot. I've known lots of
people did their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know why, but you know, teach to teach their own.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sure, I keeps radio in business.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah yeah, true. Yeah, keep doing it, folks, that was
my point. Keep doing it. Yeah, don't worry about it.
You're never going to die, so keep keep commuting.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You know, I'm too polite in the backseat. I remember
taking a cab in Las Vegas and had the scariest
driver and we got there, but I wanted to say
something so badly, like let me out, let me out,
but I just.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Bit my lip. You don't speak past tune.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, I guess that's it.
Are those FreeDOS? Are those fredos? Get out? Now? It's
one more.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thing, Armstrong and Getty, one more thing before we get
to the delicious Freedo. I mentioned on the Armstrong e
Getty Show that I was at Costco yesterday and they
had on display their new ninety eight inch television. And
I've seen some really big TVs before, but the picture
(00:26):
wasn't that great. This ninety eight incher was. That was
really impressive. I mean it was like super great oled
whatever that is.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And I was, that's seven feet.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I got more. I got a seventy seven, which is
a pretty big television eight feet and this was way
bigger than that. They had them side by side because
they know what they're god, I know, and it was
weird how I wanted that, That's what I was just.
It was just like you talk about wants versus needs.
I mean, nobody needs that. I don't need that on
any level whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I like, I'd get ahead ache because I mean, how
far away from that thing you.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Have to be in order to not well the picture
is so great, Like with my my super big television
not as big as this, and you can have your
face right up against it and it's perfect. It's amazing
the technology they've gotten.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, but I think for most people there's a ratio
of distance from screen to screen size that bigger is
not always better.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I'm certainly willing to push the bound.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, depends on a refresh rate. That's what it's all about,
the way my brain works. But I don't know, it's
just but just in general, wanting various things you don't need.
I philosophically, I just I love that whole topic. I
talk about with my kids a lot. I think about
it my own life. Wants versus needs. But but something
that is not a need, but it brings you consistent happiness. Yeah,
(01:50):
you know, assuming you can afford something ish. You know,
if you enjoy something on an ongoing basis. Is that?
Now what are we alive for? Man? Way, we've all
purchased things that like after the first time you use
it or very soon it's just to give me, brings
you no pleasure you thought it would have, didn't. I mean,
(02:12):
so those things I hate. I hate when I do that.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And if you do the crappy, tedious, grinding stuff and
get through it and you re energize by watching, I
don't know an eight foot TV?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 4 (02:27):
You know what's interesting psychologically is the not universal, but
damn near universal lust for a larger and larger TV
among males.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
And you know what, Katie, it's not like showing off
or anything. I don't care if anybody ever sees it
button me.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I know nobody will see it but me and my house.
Well it's a good point. Hey, you're the perfect example.
But if I'm sitting there in my man cave with
my wall sized TV watching I mentioned the Masters on
the show, I'm very, very happy. But the world, well,
that's all that matters.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's like, you know, Jack, if this TV makes you happy,
it makes your kids happy, so it means you're a
good father. I see it wins all across the board.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
As you're getting this, what depends why it brings you happiness?
I'm sure Like I don't. I've talked about like I
don't care about home decoration stuff like certain countertops mean
nothing to me. I would get zero happiness out of that.
But I know people that every time they walk into
their kitchen, if they saw that in particular kind of countertop,
they would enjoy it. So fine, I have a.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Countertop that both Judy and I miss really sack. So
reminisce about our counter Wow, how cool it was.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So that's foreign to me. But so it's got to
be one of those things that you're gonna. It's gonna.
I've got a jacket. I know you don't care about clothes,
but I've got a jacket. It was way too expensive.
I enjoy it every time I put it on. I mean,
I just the enjoyment I get out of it, and
it's been consistent for years. It's just it's inexplicable.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, I don't care about clothes a lot. Not often.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
When it's when that's time to look good, I'm really
into it. But day to day I couldn't give a crap.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So uh to the.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Move on? Yeah, not really for you to look at
you your assault of the earth, good Presbyterian stock or something.
I don't. I guess I do have a hoodie I
lost years ago that I wish I still had, got
enjoyment out of it every time I did. I just
I could not tell you what happened to it.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I wish some dude had not brought that up. Some
dude has it, that's right.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Probably yeah, I I I don't even know if I
can tell this story, I'll get Oliver klemped. See, you
gotta be old enough to remember back when you had
to break in denim yourself, they didn't make fake ass
pre worn guitars and freake fake ass pre worn jeans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
See you've gotta you've got a tear in your jeans.
Oh that's on purpose. Oh, I see, you're a rebel
society lost your pants to be intact. You guys, want
here a fun fact.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A girl that's not wear a pair of jeans that
has holes in it without some guy making a comment,
Oh you got holes in your pits, couldn't afford the
whole pair of jeans.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Shut up for over it.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
So anyway, But back in that era, when perfectly worn in,
you know, pair of jeans, jeans jacket, whatever, took years
and years of commitment. I had the ultimate perfect jeans jacket,
just perfectly worn in, and I left it exhausted and
sleep deprived in the Amsterdam airport. Some dudes, Yeah, some
(05:40):
fing euro junkie is probably wearing my perfectly worn jeans
jacket that wouldn't fit over my fat ass at this point. Anyway,
probably wearing it around with pride. Fine American Levi's denim
euro junkie. Anyway, to the topic, do sure I've found
(06:00):
this very very interesting. Hitch Hiking is back in Washington,
d C. Except they don't call it hitch hiking. They
call it slugging. That used to be a thing in DC,
and it's back. It's organized hitch hiking. And they open
up its Woodbridge, Virginia, which I know very well. My
(06:22):
daughter used to live there. Almost there. Six forty seven
am recent Wednesday, the commuter lot at this train stop
is started filling with workers and suits, military uniforms and
fleece quarter zips. In the still dark, they formed an
orderly line in Lot eight. Car pulled up, driver rolled
down his window. After a brief exchange, two commuters hopped
in for the thirty minute drive to the Pentagon, zooming
(06:43):
past gridlock traffic.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
They're headlocking, found floating in the Potomac. No, no, they
were found going to work. Slugging, a Washington, d C.
Tradition is back.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
They're commuters who want to bypass the capital's notorious track
and the high tolls. Well, and the drivers want to
bypass the high tolls. That you have to pay to
roll in the express lanes so easily. Either you're inching
long in traffic for interminable amounts of time to get
to work every day, or you're paying thirteen dollars and
(07:18):
thirty five cents to be in the diamond lane the
express lane to get into the city and times, you know,
twenty two work days or whatever it is per month
on average, that think gets really really expensive. And so
everybody is a lot of people line up and it's
like a rideshare thing of park and ride whatever you
(07:39):
want to call it, but slugging matches suburban riders who
are sick of paying or sitting with drivers who are
really looking for somebody to the cost. But the fun
part probably it works really well. Mostly young, upscale clientele
for that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
A lot, but not exclusively.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
They talked to the ears of forty four year old
forty eight year old one works at a university. A
bunch of people from the Pentagon do this, but there
are absolutely unwritten.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Rules to it.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
It's like Uber, except you know, it's it's I'm not
doing this for a living, I'm giving you a ride.
We're splitting the cost, so you're gonna be cool. And
actually this this one person actually says people are way
worse since COVID. Interestingly enough, but so slugging has long
(08:33):
had its own culture and etiquette.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
If the driver doesn't talk, you ride in silence.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Love it. Love that. Yeah, you shut your yap. The
driver is in charge of.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
How much chitter chat there is.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
If there is conversation, certain topics are considered off limits.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No politics, of course in DC.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I mean, come on, no religion, and you don't say
an effing word about my driving.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Not a word.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Seems like you're a little close to that car in
front of us. Ye're out, get out. Trump is bringing
Jesus back to schools, and it's important to me. I
need to get into work. No way, no way, it
takes it. You got a cattle prodect until they jump
(09:25):
out into the the traffic.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Other rules include not graping about the temperature or the
radio station. I love this driver rules. It's like me
with my kids, my car, my station, my rules. I
broke that rule with my brother driving us to the
Chiefs game. I just couldn't take it anymore. Dude, I
can't feel my feet.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm worried. About when we get out of the car,
I'm gonna fall down. I can't feel my feet.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
But since COVID and there have been a handful of
polls I've seen about this, people are ruder than they
were pre COVID. She's this one gallasy regular faux paw.
In recent months, a driver speeding down the road at
more than eighty miles an hour. A rider opening a
bag of free Doo's, filling the car with a scent
(10:15):
she can't stand.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't like people eating around me in a closed space.
Hate that.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, you get in my car and you start open
up chip bags, crunch, crunch, crunch again, cattle product.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Oh I reach over, I open up the door and
I shove you out.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Or the person that snaps her gum, Oh oh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Gonna watch you roll along the ditch in my rear
view mirrors that drive away.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
A friend of mine was snapping her gum the other
day and I looked at it and I went, are
are you serious right now? What?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So, uh yeah, I guess this is increasing in popularity
and back when people are struggling and blah blah blah.
All right, So COVID made us ruder Yeah, that's what
I've seen that in a couple of different places.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I'm no car pooler, but anytime I'm stuck in like
San Francisco Bay Area traffic or something like that going
into work, I think, for an allegedly smart beast, it's
amazing that this is the way we've all structured our lives.
That we are all individually taking hours out of our
day and hours off of our lives trying to get
to working back, and this is the best we can do.
(11:25):
It's always surprising to me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I remember when we used to take calls and we
talked to super commuters, not supercomputers, supercommuters, totally different conversation,
and they would say, essentially, I'm making so much money,
I'm trading my life now for a better life down
the road when I'll be financially secure maybe, which is
(11:50):
a great bargain. Unless you know, the lights go out
before you get a chance to enjoy the fruits of
your labors.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You die, mean, Yeah, that's what I meant.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I meant die.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh, I think unless you're lying to yourself, which I
think is often the case, that you're going to continue
doing this the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Super commuting.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, just like commuting a lot. I've known lots of
people did their whole lives.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I don't know why, but you know, teach to teach their own.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Sure, I keeps radio in business.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah yeah, true. Yeah, keep doing it, folks, that was
my point. Keep doing it. Yeah, don't worry about it.
You're never going to die, so keep keep commuting.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
You know, I'm too polite in the backseat. I remember
taking a cab in Las Vegas and had the scariest
driver and we got there, but I wanted to say
something so badly, like let me out, let me out,
but I just.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Bit my lip. You don't speak past tune.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, I guess that's it.
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