October 1, 2025 • 11 mins
Featuring within the Wednesday October 1, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty One More Thing Podcast...
- We share an amazing story from News Nation's Leland Vittert that helps to illuminate the conflict between Hamas & Israel.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's some inspiring here in a bunch of horrifying. It's
one more thing I'm strong.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thing inspiring horrifying.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The fabulous Barry Weiss of the Free Press. I did
at an interview recently with Leland Viddert, who is a
longtime Middle East correspondent for Fox News, and I believe
he is with the News Nation now.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He's recently come out publicly that he is on the
autism spectrum or is autistic, or has autism, whatever you're
supposed to say these days, I don't know, and has
described how he has dealt with it and gotten beyond it.
Really interesting and inspiring stuff. I can't wait to read it,
(00:48):
as there's autism in my family more than a little.
Really an amazing guy and really cool. But he was
talking to Barry Weiss about the Middle East and God
in Israel. And here's a little snippet of her excellent
conversation with.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Him twenty twelve. I'm a foreign correspondent for Fox and
you know, normally you're when you're based in Jerusalem, you're
covering suicide bombings, you're covering protests in the West Bank
of riots in the West Bank on and on and
on because of the Arab Spring, I really hadn't spent
that much time in Israel, and the Palestine Israeli conflict
was not a thing those years. There's been a couple
of Gaza skirmishes, but there was the Glad Shalite deal
(01:27):
where there was an Israeli soldier who had been held
hostage and traded from Gaza to Israel for a thousand
guys and prisoners an including Sinowar and including a woman
named Waffa. And Wafa had been a woman in the
West Bank or woman in Gaza. She had pulled a
pot of boiling water over herself when she was like
(01:48):
five or six years old. The Israelis treat most of
the people out of Gaz who have really horrific burns
catastrophic medical injuries. She goes back to Gaza after being
treated for four or five in Israel, but has a
pass to get in and out of Israel, which very
few people in Gaza did at the time, So she
gets recruited to be a suicide bomber. This is in
(02:10):
the second into Fada, so mid two thousands.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There's the video of her coming to the checkpoint to
get into Israel, wearing her suicide vest, and she'd been
given three target options by the Alaskar Martyrs brigade, a bus,
a cafe, or the hospital that had treated her and
saved her life. She chose the hospital that had treated
her and saved her life. She gets to the checkpoint,
(02:38):
they discover that she has a bomb, or they think
she does. She tries to detonate it, it doesn't go off.
She gets thrown in jail again. The Israeli's treat her,
they help her with her birds, they educate her, they
give her a college degree, and now in the Gladually deal,
she goes back to Gaza. So I go to Gaza
to interview her, thinking this is going to be a
redemption story. It was before Christmas, right that she is
(02:59):
going to say, perfect Christmas, I am going to be
the one to try and forge peace, and I believe
in peace, and I've seen that the Israelis are not
evil that I don't want to kill them anymore. Fine,
So I get into Gaza and I bring with me
an iPad that has the video of her trying to
blow herself up. So we're sitting across from each other
like this. She's wearing a hejab in a very junkie
(03:22):
gozzen apartment. It is an awful place in every sense
of the word. And I show her the video and
I said, what are you thinking watching this?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
She goes, oh, oh.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Has all this reaction and she goes, oh, she goes,
I'm thinking, I almost tasted paradise. Okay, would you do
it again? Absolutely in a minute. This is my calling
in life. I said, wait a second. These people treated
(03:58):
you in all of your burns, they saved your life.
You tried to blow them up, they still treated you,
they educated you, and now you have a chance at
life back here in Gaza, and you'd want to blow
them up. And she goes, absolutely, they are the infidels,
they are evil, They're the enemy. I can't remember where
(04:18):
the jack translation was. And that's when my mind was
made up about sort of the moral clarity of the
Israeli Palestinian debate. Are the Israeli's perfect No, But that's
what they're up against.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And that is the key point that so many people ignore.
That's what they're up against. And it's funny when people
see deliberate attempts to indoctrinate the young. They have Americans.
They have this inability to absorb it or accept it
(04:51):
or believe it because I think a lot of us
have seen those TV the kids shows from you know,
those that part of the world where they teach the
little kids that the Jews drink the blood of babies
and the.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Rest of that. Yeah, it's like they're Susame Street, right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And then when people like me are trying to lecture
you that the government schools aren't accidentally indoctrinating your kids
to hate America and Western civilization and not know their
own history, that that's just these silly, woke people who
don't really know it. No, it's an absolutely deliberate attempt
(05:30):
to capture the minds of young people. Every evil regime
in the history of the world has known this, They've
practiced it. I could bore you to death with examples
of it. They do it because it works, but people
can't accept that it's happening in their own country.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I guess. Yeah, that was quite a story. And you know,
not just the Palestinian Israeli conflict. That's what we're all
up against in terms of the whole radical Islam thing
all around the world. Yes, the people that actually believe no, no, no,
(06:08):
I want the bomb to go off, because then I'm
in paradise immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right. Well, And one of the most interesting things you've
ever brought to the show was that psychological study where
they pointed out that human beings cling to the first
thing they learn about something.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, it's troubling. I'm after what. I feel like I'm
up against that in my life sometimes myself will you
will stick with the first thing you heard, even when
it's been proven that you were wrong about the first
thing you heard.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But the first thing even if the people who told
you the first thing you heard come back and say
is they did in the study, Hey, what we told
you is wrong. It's not X. It's why just we
apologize it's not X. It's why you go back in
a couple of months and ask those people if it's
X or why they'll say, oh, it's X, definitely X.
And so that's one of the insidious parts of indoctrinating
(06:56):
a young girl like this or the American example I
was giving. How much opportunity did she get to observe
that the reality of the Israeli people is not ex
It's why indeed, but she was indoctrinated to believe it
was the horrors of the evil Jew and they must
be blotted out, blah blah blah. And she could not.
(07:17):
With the most amazing, awe inspiring, kind, beautiful examples of
the actual truth, she could not be budged from that
premise human beings. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Whoof Wow, that was a that was that was a
good one. That was interesting and troubling. So that's Barry
Weiss's outfit that brought us that the free press. Yeah,
so she she made a decision or not to make
take that two hundred million dollar offer from CBS.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I wish she would.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Because it's quickly become a media empire. They have lots
of super talented writers. Yes, they put out more.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Pardon me, it's possible that she, being you know, significantly
younger than me, thinks, why would I go to CBS.
I'm building what is the future of media. I'm not
going back through it. It was the big deal fifty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, but they put out more good content that you
could take in.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, podcasts too, obviously.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. She is a go getter and
her wife, that's right, Katie two women.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Lesbians.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes, that's what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was going to ask this question the other day on.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The air, but anyway, I was going to say, Nelly Bowls,
her wife is brilliant writer. I love Nelly.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Where was I? I live in a college down so
I'm at the bagel shop coffee shop Sunday morning, and
I had this thought. Could Doc Martin stay in business
if it weren't for lesbians? That's what I thought, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Cubstantially lower profit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm not sure they could. I'm not sure they could.
Attractive young lesbian couples all wearing Doc Martins big in
the punk rock scene, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they're I
have several paramis Yo Nazis, are you Jack? I wear
them regularly. But I think I think what really keeps
them going is the lesbian sea. He's a lesbian.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I've got to believe that in this era of data collection,
Doc Martin knows like the home address of every single
punk rock loving, neo Nazi lesbian because that is.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Their bread and butter right there.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, those girls are the next quarter profits right there?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Can I play a clip for you guys real quick?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I just need your opinion on it?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Sure, opinion. All right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Went to a friend's wedding, but it was a really
long day. The wedding took place at twelve. When it
got to eight pm with no food insight, I was
absolutely struggling. I was starting to get angry. So me
and my friend, who asked we've decided to order a
pizza sneakily to the venue. When it arrived, I slipped
outside to grab it and I shared it with a
couple of other people at the table who were also starving.
World War round And now the bride is furious with
(09:59):
me and said if i 's been patient, food was
arriving in the next thirty minutes. She told me that
I embarrassed her, but some mothers told me it was
tacky and disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
M twelve to eight with no food at a wedding,
is a bull is left?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah? Or yeah, unless it's like a close friend. What
were they doing for close friend that I'm sticking around? Well,
I wonder, I wonder. It was like, I don't know
if you've ever been to a full on Catholic wedding
where they do the full mask, but of those don't
last eight hours.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Feed your guests dumb, dumb. What do you want them
to starve, pass out, crack their heads.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Eight that's a long wedding anyways. Yeah, and then food's coming.
Now I'm out. I would believe before I would bring
a pizza into the wedding venue.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But she did it. Well the venue though, I mean,
what if it's a hotel, They rented a ballroom. She
went out to the lobby.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you know what, that's commitment to her friend wanting
to stick around for this hllaciously long wedding. The bride's furious.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh oh yeah, well that bride needs to shove it
was I'm in that scenario, Katie, and you bring it up. Hey,
I'm thinking of getting a pizza. I got a three
word answer for you, sausage and onion and one word
response done.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thanks guys, you're a lot of help. Well, I guess
that's it.
There's some inspiring here in a bunch of horrifying. It's
one more thing I'm strong.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thing inspiring horrifying.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
The fabulous Barry Weiss of the Free Press. I did
at an interview recently with Leland Viddert, who is a
longtime Middle East correspondent for Fox News, and I believe
he is with the News Nation now.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
He's recently come out publicly that he is on the
autism spectrum or is autistic, or has autism, whatever you're
supposed to say these days, I don't know, and has
described how he has dealt with it and gotten beyond it.
Really interesting and inspiring stuff. I can't wait to read it,
(00:48):
as there's autism in my family more than a little.
Really an amazing guy and really cool. But he was
talking to Barry Weiss about the Middle East and God
in Israel. And here's a little snippet of her excellent
conversation with.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Him twenty twelve. I'm a foreign correspondent for Fox and
you know, normally you're when you're based in Jerusalem, you're
covering suicide bombings, you're covering protests in the West Bank
of riots in the West Bank on and on and
on because of the Arab Spring, I really hadn't spent
that much time in Israel, and the Palestine Israeli conflict
was not a thing those years. There's been a couple
of Gaza skirmishes, but there was the Glad Shalite deal
(01:27):
where there was an Israeli soldier who had been held
hostage and traded from Gaza to Israel for a thousand
guys and prisoners an including Sinowar and including a woman
named Waffa. And Wafa had been a woman in the
West Bank or woman in Gaza. She had pulled a
pot of boiling water over herself when she was like
(01:48):
five or six years old. The Israelis treat most of
the people out of Gaz who have really horrific burns
catastrophic medical injuries. She goes back to Gaza after being
treated for four or five in Israel, but has a
pass to get in and out of Israel, which very
few people in Gaza did at the time, So she
gets recruited to be a suicide bomber. This is in
(02:10):
the second into Fada, so mid two thousands.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
And.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
There's the video of her coming to the checkpoint to
get into Israel, wearing her suicide vest, and she'd been
given three target options by the Alaskar Martyrs brigade, a bus,
a cafe, or the hospital that had treated her and
saved her life. She chose the hospital that had treated
her and saved her life. She gets to the checkpoint,
(02:38):
they discover that she has a bomb, or they think
she does. She tries to detonate it, it doesn't go off.
She gets thrown in jail again. The Israeli's treat her,
they help her with her birds, they educate her, they
give her a college degree, and now in the Gladually deal,
she goes back to Gaza. So I go to Gaza
to interview her, thinking this is going to be a
redemption story. It was before Christmas, right that she is
(02:59):
going to say, perfect Christmas, I am going to be
the one to try and forge peace, and I believe
in peace, and I've seen that the Israelis are not
evil that I don't want to kill them anymore. Fine,
So I get into Gaza and I bring with me
an iPad that has the video of her trying to
blow herself up. So we're sitting across from each other
like this. She's wearing a hejab in a very junkie
(03:22):
gozzen apartment. It is an awful place in every sense
of the word. And I show her the video and
I said, what are you thinking watching this?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
She goes, oh, oh.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Has all this reaction and she goes, oh, she goes,
I'm thinking, I almost tasted paradise. Okay, would you do
it again? Absolutely in a minute. This is my calling
in life. I said, wait a second. These people treated
(03:58):
you in all of your burns, they saved your life.
You tried to blow them up, they still treated you,
they educated you, and now you have a chance at
life back here in Gaza, and you'd want to blow
them up. And she goes, absolutely, they are the infidels,
they are evil, They're the enemy. I can't remember where
(04:18):
the jack translation was. And that's when my mind was
made up about sort of the moral clarity of the
Israeli Palestinian debate. Are the Israeli's perfect No, But that's
what they're up against.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And that is the key point that so many people ignore.
That's what they're up against. And it's funny when people
see deliberate attempts to indoctrinate the young. They have Americans.
They have this inability to absorb it or accept it
(04:51):
or believe it because I think a lot of us
have seen those TV the kids shows from you know,
those that part of the world where they teach the
little kids that the Jews drink the blood of babies
and the.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Rest of that. Yeah, it's like they're Susame Street, right.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And then when people like me are trying to lecture
you that the government schools aren't accidentally indoctrinating your kids
to hate America and Western civilization and not know their
own history, that that's just these silly, woke people who
don't really know it. No, it's an absolutely deliberate attempt
(05:30):
to capture the minds of young people. Every evil regime
in the history of the world has known this, They've
practiced it. I could bore you to death with examples
of it. They do it because it works, but people
can't accept that it's happening in their own country.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I guess. Yeah, that was quite a story. And you know,
not just the Palestinian Israeli conflict. That's what we're all
up against in terms of the whole radical Islam thing
all around the world. Yes, the people that actually believe no, no, no,
(06:08):
I want the bomb to go off, because then I'm
in paradise immediately.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Right. Well, And one of the most interesting things you've
ever brought to the show was that psychological study where
they pointed out that human beings cling to the first
thing they learn about something.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, it's troubling. I'm after what. I feel like I'm
up against that in my life sometimes myself will you
will stick with the first thing you heard, even when
it's been proven that you were wrong about the first
thing you heard.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But the first thing even if the people who told
you the first thing you heard come back and say
is they did in the study, Hey, what we told
you is wrong. It's not X. It's why just we
apologize it's not X. It's why you go back in
a couple of months and ask those people if it's
X or why they'll say, oh, it's X, definitely X.
And so that's one of the insidious parts of indoctrinating
(06:56):
a young girl like this or the American example I
was giving. How much opportunity did she get to observe
that the reality of the Israeli people is not ex
It's why indeed, but she was indoctrinated to believe it
was the horrors of the evil Jew and they must
be blotted out, blah blah blah. And she could not.
(07:17):
With the most amazing, awe inspiring, kind, beautiful examples of
the actual truth, she could not be budged from that
premise human beings. Man.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Whoof Wow, that was a that was that was a
good one. That was interesting and troubling. So that's Barry
Weiss's outfit that brought us that the free press. Yeah,
so she she made a decision or not to make
take that two hundred million dollar offer from CBS.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I haven't heard.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I wish she would.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Because it's quickly become a media empire. They have lots
of super talented writers. Yes, they put out more.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Pardon me, it's possible that she, being you know, significantly
younger than me, thinks, why would I go to CBS.
I'm building what is the future of media. I'm not
going back through it. It was the big deal fifty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, but they put out more good content that you
could take in.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, podcasts too, obviously.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. She is a go getter and
her wife, that's right, Katie two women.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Lesbians.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes, that's what I've been told.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was going to ask this question the other day on.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The air, but anyway, I was going to say, Nelly Bowls,
her wife is brilliant writer. I love Nelly.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Where was I? I live in a college down so
I'm at the bagel shop coffee shop Sunday morning, and
I had this thought. Could Doc Martin stay in business
if it weren't for lesbians? That's what I thought, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Cubstantially lower profit.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I'm not sure they could. I'm not sure they could.
Attractive young lesbian couples all wearing Doc Martins big in
the punk rock scene, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they're I
have several paramis Yo Nazis, are you Jack? I wear
them regularly. But I think I think what really keeps
them going is the lesbian sea. He's a lesbian.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I've got to believe that in this era of data collection,
Doc Martin knows like the home address of every single
punk rock loving, neo Nazi lesbian because that is.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Their bread and butter right there.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, those girls are the next quarter profits right there?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Can I play a clip for you guys real quick?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I just need your opinion on it?
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Sure, opinion. All right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Went to a friend's wedding, but it was a really
long day. The wedding took place at twelve. When it
got to eight pm with no food insight, I was
absolutely struggling. I was starting to get angry. So me
and my friend, who asked we've decided to order a
pizza sneakily to the venue. When it arrived, I slipped
outside to grab it and I shared it with a
couple of other people at the table who were also starving.
World War round And now the bride is furious with
(09:59):
me and said if i 's been patient, food was
arriving in the next thirty minutes. She told me that
I embarrassed her, but some mothers told me it was
tacky and disrespectful.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
M twelve to eight with no food at a wedding,
is a bull is left?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah? Or yeah, unless it's like a close friend. What
were they doing for close friend that I'm sticking around? Well,
I wonder, I wonder. It was like, I don't know
if you've ever been to a full on Catholic wedding
where they do the full mask, but of those don't
last eight hours.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Feed your guests dumb, dumb. What do you want them
to starve, pass out, crack their heads.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Eight that's a long wedding anyways. Yeah, and then food's coming.
Now I'm out. I would believe before I would bring
a pizza into the wedding venue.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But she did it. Well the venue though, I mean,
what if it's a hotel, They rented a ballroom. She
went out to the lobby.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
And you know what, that's commitment to her friend wanting
to stick around for this hllaciously long wedding. The bride's furious.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh oh yeah, well that bride needs to shove it
was I'm in that scenario, Katie, and you bring it up. Hey,
I'm thinking of getting a pizza. I got a three
word answer for you, sausage and onion and one word
response done.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Thanks guys, you're a lot of help. Well, I guess
that's it.
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