April 16, 2024 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Just take the pill.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
One more. I love it when Michael leads the podcast. No, yes,
just take the pill, you said, do tell. I am intrigued.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, So I've been trying to get healthy along with
my wife. So we're both going to the gym together.
Good for you doing It's almost every day now, so
we're doing really well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What do you mostly do yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Great?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, uh, cardio and then a waits a few.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Days a week. What's your cardio of choice?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're doing the recumbent bike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's a recumbent bike. I do not even know.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Basically, it's a sit down bicycle. Okay, So I'm doing
that and I do about forty five minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, Joe. Joe might know the answer to this because
he does a lot of exercise. What what is? Because
I see these all over the place. What's the in
theory advantage of a bicycle where you're sitting as opposed
to sitting up on top of them?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's easier on your prostate for one thing, I don't
imagine the lovely missus Michael is worried about that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So you get all the benefits of the peddling without
sitting on that tiny little seat and bent over. Yeah,
more uncomfortable. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I always I was always an elliptical man, because you know,
it works all sorts of body groups, these legs, your corey,
your arms while getting your heart rate up. But my
back doctor doesn't my trainer guy doesn't want me to
doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I got a great elliptical machine in my living room.
I mean a really top notch from a gym elliptical machine.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's so I give you ten bucks for it is
supposed to use it being used as an elliptical or
a clothing rack.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I've had it for seven years. I've probably cumulative been
on it eleven minutes in seven years.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's that's significantly more than a minute a year though,
So that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And you got to build up from that, use that
as as starting place, and then right next year try
to get on it for two minutes. Oh yeah, you
don't want to hurt yourself back to.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Two minutes for the whole year, right, Yes, So.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I can do treadmill anymore because of the ulster that
I had from diabetes to my foot. It is healed up.
But they're a little bit worried that if I keep
pounding on, it'll reopen. So I just wish to recumbent.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, welcome to Ulcer Talk.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So no, so my wife and I we know anything.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Else it's about to open back up again? Or can
we move on to now? We're all good?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Label this podcast? Joe disavows. It's the matter with you people.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So the wife and I are at Costco and mind you,
we've been working out, okay, and we see somebody that
we recognize that we used to go to the gym with,
and we hadn't seen her for about eight or nine months.
And we look and we say, is that such and such?
And I go, I think it is. So I walk
over there and I go are you? And she goes, hey,
how's it going? And she recognizes my wife and I
and she looks fantastic. Wow, I mean, her body is amazing.
(02:55):
And it's just like, well, now here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I say, hey, her body on a hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I didn't say it quite that way. I said, that's
such and such. I said, wow, she looks like she's
lost a lot of weight. And my wife says, yeah, yeah,
she has it looks like And then so she comes
over and she starts talking to us and says, hey, guys,
how's it going, and you know, good good? So are
you still going the gym? I guess you've been doing
gym working stuff. She goes, oh, no, I've quit the
gym completely. I'm doing I'm doing injections now, and she's
(03:27):
doing the ozembic and something else that she's I was
nauseous for like eight months, She's all, but it's finally
gone away, and I've been able to eat junk, and
you know, I've lost all this weight. And she looked incredible,
but at the same time she was saying, you know,
I can he junk. I don't have to go to
(03:47):
the gym anymore. And my wife and I are looking
at each other because we're working so hard. Yeah, and
our progress is so slow.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, there's a combination of it. It is hard, it's
time consuming, and it is slow.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But the way you guys are doing it is sustainable.
This ozempic stuff. I mean, you hear all the stories
about as soon as people get off of it, they
balloon back even more.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We what if you just stay on it though the
rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's expensive, of course, I've known plenty of people me
who've dieted and exercised and lost a lot of weight
and then the same thing happens. Yeah, right, you claim,
you may claim it's sustainable.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But right, I've done that. So what am I talking about? Yeah,
the fact almost everybody regains their weight back, I mean statistically,
So yeah, it's not just ozempic you can do. You
can do the good hard workout every day, eat right,
and gain it back like like ninety percent of people do.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
On the other hand, so Michael Angelo, do you have
a point of view? Are you advocating for the injection
or the pill or something.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That's what this is about. Actually, I was asking my wife.
You know, she walked away and I looked at my
wife and I said.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
After watching her ask I went right, damn, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She did look good.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I gotta admit, look at that. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
My wife she's all, I know what you saw, and
I'm all, yeah, yeah, I know. But I said, we're
doing it slow, but I'm happy with what we're doing. Yeah,
And we are talking on the way home, you know,
should we try that? And then she said no, you know,
I do not want to be monocious for eight months?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Right, Well, putting that aside, though I see the appeal
end or value of losing the weight more quickly. But
don't forget your heart, your lungs, your bones, your muscles,
everything is benefiting from this, whereas that gal's just skinnier.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right, That's what I told you is an excellent point,
right there. Joe Getty throws in and.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And your brain, from something I was just reading about,
really helps you. Exercising is so good for your brain
and holding off dementia and all these different sorts of
things that those zimpias or whatever it's called is not
going to help with. But I can certainly understand that
because like right now, I'm not exercising, uh as much
as i'd like to, but i am. I've been very
disciplined eating wise now for about three weeks, and it's
(06:02):
a freaking battle all day every day. I mean, it's NonStop,
every moment you're awake to be just I'm trying to
get back to used to being hungry, because it feels
to me like, if you're gonna lose weight, you just
got to get used to being hungry all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Agreed. Yeah, Now, the other day when you were constantly
on the verge of vomiting. I'll bet you didn't overeat,
did you? One more vote for Ozepic.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's interesting in the middle of my uh eating well,
that I had that spell. But anyway, yeah, I can
understand why they'd be frustrating, because eating right is a
pain constantly the time of exercising the effort, and then
you run into somebody looks better and they're not. They're
just taking an injection. That's a that's a mind f
(06:47):
feel pardon the expression.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And she was bragging basically, she's saying, you know, I mean,
in a way, she was kind of saying, yeah, I
don't do what you guys do anymore. Look what I look,
what I look like, and I just take pills or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
None of my business. I really don't advocate the eating
crap just because the injection's helping keep it off.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now, on the flip side to this, I know someone
who is taking one of these injections and it's not
working because she hasn't changed any of her habits. And
I think this stuff is just you know, it affects
everybody differently. But I mean, she's been on it for
months and it's you know, certain habits, you have to
(07:26):
cut and you have to work out.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
For some people, well, I feel like you ought to
be willing to give something to the project, not just
rely on on the chemicals.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
You're giving your hard earned paycheck to the drug. But
there is a drug.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But there is a bit of discussing this like it's
a moral issue, which kind of like seeps into your
brain for no good reason, like one is somehow against
morality and one is the right way to do it
or something. There's a total stigma against them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If you look online, if you see anybody on line
who's is showing, oh, look at my weight loss. If
you go into the comments, guaranteed within the first five.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Somebody's like, oh ozempic right, all of them. Also, you
don't get toned up at all on ozempic. I assume
so your weight came off, because I know somebody actually
lost a tremendous amount of weight recently and they got
some weird skin flabby stuff happening. Is a post if
you lost and they lost it really fast, if you
lost it slower and you're working out, and I know
(08:26):
what you're saying about the morality thing, and it's hard
to put your finger on. I'd have to mull it
over for a bit. But there's the question of your
doing it the natural way or the unnatural way. On
the other hand, if I have some sort of rampant
bacterial infection, if penicillin's the unnatural way, give me the
unnatural one. Nice. You know, I don't believe in modern medicine.
I think that's cheating. Also, that's why I got two
(08:48):
teeth quite a sight. I think, well, if this, if
they if they figure out this ozempic stuff to where
it works for most people, doesn't make you sick. I
think we're gonna have to get over this. One's cheating ones,
not just from a being that overweight is not good
for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Uh yeah, yeah. I wonder they'll probably fine tune the
chemistry and the dosage and that sort of thing. I
wonder if you can, like the equivalent of microdose it
and just you know, a bit of an appetite suppressant,
like the speed the ladies took in the fifties and sixties,
that sort of thing. You don't have to be a
full on meth head, just just a little pick me up,
(09:29):
a mother's little helpers. The Rolling Stones put it so entertaining. Yeah, dabble,
I'm dabbling in the world of stimulants.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, my wife asked me if she said, if that
pill was healthy, She's all, would you want me on it?
Knowing that I could look like her, and then I
and then she looked at me and gave me the look,
and I was sort of like, how did I answer this?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I'm giving you the look and I'm not your wife.
You better answer that correctly.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Is this the show that airs after the Bachelorette or something?
It's starting to get that feel.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You didn't at any point say break me off a
piece of that, did you. No? No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's cool, thank god. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Anyway, No, I answered the right way. I said, no,
I like what we're doing, and we're gonna keep doing
what we're doing, and I like doing it as a couple.
So that's that was my answer to her.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, that was that last part. Now, that was some
good relationship talk, right there. A couple, that's that's a
that's a yeah, that's for the win.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, I guess that's it.
Just take the pill.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's one more thing.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
One more. I love it when Michael leads the podcast. No, yes,
just take the pill, you said, do tell. I am intrigued.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Okay, So I've been trying to get healthy along with
my wife. So we're both going to the gym together.
Good for you doing It's almost every day now, so
we're doing really well.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What do you mostly do yourself?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Great?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, uh, cardio and then a waits a few.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Days a week. What's your cardio of choice?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're doing the recumbent bike.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's a recumbent bike. I do not even know.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Basically, it's a sit down bicycle. Okay, So I'm doing
that and I do about forty five minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Wow, Joe. Joe might know the answer to this because
he does a lot of exercise. What what is? Because
I see these all over the place. What's the in
theory advantage of a bicycle where you're sitting as opposed
to sitting up on top of them?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's easier on your prostate for one thing, I don't
imagine the lovely missus Michael is worried about that.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So you get all the benefits of the peddling without
sitting on that tiny little seat and bent over. Yeah,
more uncomfortable. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I always I was always an elliptical man, because you know,
it works all sorts of body groups, these legs, your corey,
your arms while getting your heart rate up. But my
back doctor doesn't my trainer guy doesn't want me to
doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I got a great elliptical machine in my living room.
I mean a really top notch from a gym elliptical machine.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's so I give you ten bucks for it is
supposed to use it being used as an elliptical or
a clothing rack.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I've had it for seven years. I've probably cumulative been
on it eleven minutes in seven years.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
That's that's significantly more than a minute a year though,
So that's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And you got to build up from that, use that
as as starting place, and then right next year try
to get on it for two minutes. Oh yeah, you
don't want to hurt yourself back to.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Two minutes for the whole year, right, Yes, So.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I can do treadmill anymore because of the ulster that
I had from diabetes to my foot. It is healed up.
But they're a little bit worried that if I keep
pounding on, it'll reopen. So I just wish to recumbent.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, welcome to Ulcer Talk.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So no, so my wife and I we know anything.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Else it's about to open back up again? Or can
we move on to now? We're all good?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Label this podcast? Joe disavows. It's the matter with you people.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
So the wife and I are at Costco and mind you,
we've been working out, okay, and we see somebody that
we recognize that we used to go to the gym with,
and we hadn't seen her for about eight or nine months.
And we look and we say, is that such and such?
And I go, I think it is. So I walk
over there and I go are you? And she goes, hey,
how's it going? And she recognizes my wife and I
and she looks fantastic. Wow, I mean, her body is amazing.
(02:55):
And it's just like, well, now here's what happened.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So I say, hey, her body on a hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I didn't say it quite that way. I said, that's
such and such. I said, wow, she looks like she's
lost a lot of weight. And my wife says, yeah, yeah,
she has it looks like And then so she comes
over and she starts talking to us and says, hey, guys,
how's it going, and you know, good good? So are
you still going the gym? I guess you've been doing
gym working stuff. She goes, oh, no, I've quit the
gym completely. I'm doing I'm doing injections now, and she's
(03:27):
doing the ozembic and something else that she's I was
nauseous for like eight months, She's all, but it's finally
gone away, and I've been able to eat junk, and
you know, I've lost all this weight. And she looked incredible,
but at the same time she was saying, you know,
I can he junk. I don't have to go to
(03:47):
the gym anymore. And my wife and I are looking
at each other because we're working so hard. Yeah, and
our progress is so slow.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Right, there's a combination of it. It is hard, it's
time consuming, and it is slow.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
But the way you guys are doing it is sustainable.
This ozempic stuff. I mean, you hear all the stories
about as soon as people get off of it, they
balloon back even more.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
We what if you just stay on it though the
rest of your life.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's expensive, of course, I've known plenty of people me
who've dieted and exercised and lost a lot of weight
and then the same thing happens. Yeah, right, you claim,
you may claim it's sustainable.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
But right, I've done that. So what am I talking about? Yeah,
the fact almost everybody regains their weight back, I mean statistically,
So yeah, it's not just ozempic you can do. You
can do the good hard workout every day, eat right,
and gain it back like like ninety percent of people do.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
On the other hand, so Michael Angelo, do you have
a point of view? Are you advocating for the injection
or the pill or something.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That's what this is about. Actually, I was asking my wife.
You know, she walked away and I looked at my
wife and I said.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
After watching her ask I went right, damn, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
She did look good.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I gotta admit, look at that. Now.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
My wife she's all, I know what you saw, and
I'm all, yeah, yeah, I know. But I said, we're
doing it slow, but I'm happy with what we're doing. Yeah,
And we are talking on the way home, you know,
should we try that? And then she said no, you know,
I do not want to be monocious for eight months?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Right, Well, putting that aside, though I see the appeal
end or value of losing the weight more quickly. But
don't forget your heart, your lungs, your bones, your muscles,
everything is benefiting from this, whereas that gal's just skinnier.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Right, That's what I told you is an excellent point,
right there. Joe Getty throws in and.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
And your brain, from something I was just reading about,
really helps you. Exercising is so good for your brain
and holding off dementia and all these different sorts of
things that those zimpias or whatever it's called is not
going to help with. But I can certainly understand that
because like right now, I'm not exercising, uh as much
as i'd like to, but i am. I've been very
disciplined eating wise now for about three weeks, and it's
(06:02):
a freaking battle all day every day. I mean, it's NonStop,
every moment you're awake to be just I'm trying to
get back to used to being hungry, because it feels
to me like, if you're gonna lose weight, you just
got to get used to being hungry all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Agreed. Yeah, Now, the other day when you were constantly
on the verge of vomiting. I'll bet you didn't overeat,
did you? One more vote for Ozepic.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's interesting in the middle of my uh eating well,
that I had that spell. But anyway, yeah, I can
understand why they'd be frustrating, because eating right is a
pain constantly the time of exercising the effort, and then
you run into somebody looks better and they're not. They're
just taking an injection. That's a that's a mind f
(06:47):
feel pardon the expression.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
And she was bragging basically, she's saying, you know, I mean,
in a way, she was kind of saying, yeah, I
don't do what you guys do anymore. Look what I look,
what I look like, and I just take pills or whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
None of my business. I really don't advocate the eating
crap just because the injection's helping keep it off.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now, on the flip side to this, I know someone
who is taking one of these injections and it's not
working because she hasn't changed any of her habits. And
I think this stuff is just you know, it affects
everybody differently. But I mean, she's been on it for
months and it's you know, certain habits, you have to
(07:26):
cut and you have to work out.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
For some people, well, I feel like you ought to
be willing to give something to the project, not just
rely on on the chemicals.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
You're giving your hard earned paycheck to the drug. But
there is a drug.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But there is a bit of discussing this like it's
a moral issue, which kind of like seeps into your
brain for no good reason, like one is somehow against
morality and one is the right way to do it
or something. There's a total stigma against them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
If you look online, if you see anybody on line
who's is showing, oh, look at my weight loss. If
you go into the comments, guaranteed within the first five.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Somebody's like, oh ozempic right, all of them. Also, you
don't get toned up at all on ozempic. I assume
so your weight came off, because I know somebody actually
lost a tremendous amount of weight recently and they got
some weird skin flabby stuff happening. Is a post if
you lost and they lost it really fast, if you
lost it slower and you're working out, and I know
(08:26):
what you're saying about the morality thing, and it's hard
to put your finger on. I'd have to mull it
over for a bit. But there's the question of your
doing it the natural way or the unnatural way. On
the other hand, if I have some sort of rampant
bacterial infection, if penicillin's the unnatural way, give me the
unnatural one. Nice. You know, I don't believe in modern medicine.
I think that's cheating. Also, that's why I got two
(08:48):
teeth quite a sight. I think, well, if this, if
they if they figure out this ozempic stuff to where
it works for most people, doesn't make you sick. I
think we're gonna have to get over this. One's cheating ones,
not just from a being that overweight is not good
for you.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Uh yeah, yeah. I wonder they'll probably fine tune the
chemistry and the dosage and that sort of thing. I
wonder if you can, like the equivalent of microdose it
and just you know, a bit of an appetite suppressant,
like the speed the ladies took in the fifties and sixties,
that sort of thing. You don't have to be a
full on meth head, just just a little pick me up,
(09:29):
a mother's little helpers. The Rolling Stones put it so entertaining. Yeah, dabble,
I'm dabbling in the world of stimulants.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, my wife asked me if she said, if that
pill was healthy, She's all, would you want me on it?
Knowing that I could look like her, and then I
and then she looked at me and gave me the look,
and I was sort of like, how did I answer this?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I'm giving you the look and I'm not your wife.
You better answer that correctly.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Is this the show that airs after the Bachelorette or something?
It's starting to get that feel.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You didn't at any point say break me off a
piece of that, did you. No? No, I didn't.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
That's cool, thank god. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Anyway, No, I answered the right way. I said, no,
I like what we're doing, and we're gonna keep doing
what we're doing, and I like doing it as a couple.
So that's that was my answer to her.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
No, that was that last part. Now, that was some
good relationship talk, right there. A couple, that's that's a
that's a yeah, that's for the win.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Well, I guess that's it.
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