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April 10, 2024 13 mins

MichaelAngelo brings us a few highlights from Conan O'Brien recent returned to NBC and the Tonight Show, which leads to a conversation about.....

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The big redhead from Harvard. It's one more thing I'm strong,
and one.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
More It's funny. I don't have any feeling of being
impressed when I hear Harvard.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm annoyed at this point in my life. Well, I
think I've always been annoyed, although it might have been
a little bit of jealousy. Now it's just annoyed the
more we learn about it, their ideology, how a lot
of people get in. I've known enough people that went
to Harvard now to not be impressed. So the average
grade is an A now whatever. Anyway, Conan O'Brien went

(00:36):
to Harvard and was involved in the National lampoon there
and then went on to write for The Simpsons and
Saturday Night Live and have his own show. And even
with all that success, I think he's more successful now
at age sixty than he's ever been in his career.
He just sold his podcast Delli Out to Serious XM
for one hundred and fifty million dollars and he's got
millions of people that tune into his various works now,

(00:59):
so good for him. Funny guy, creative guy. An interesting
thing about his personality that I heard in an interview,
I want to bring up. But first, let's hear a
clip of him on The Tonight Show last night with
Jimmy Fallon, first time he'd been back to the Tonight
Show since he got it taken away from him back
in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
This really nice young guy in a white shirt in
a baseball cap starts chatting with me, and he's saying,
you know, Cone and I love the podcast, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Also I really love the old late night clips.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I watch him all the time, and you know, I
also really like the stuff you did with the Simpsons.
And I'm like, he's so nice. Yeah, I'm saying, thank
you so much. Then we both go through the TSA thing.
He goes through. I go through. I collect all my stuff,
you know the way you're kind of distracted. I put
my belt on, get my shoes back on. I turn around,
see the guy white shirt hat, and I go, you
know what, let's do selfie. Come on, come Oure'll do
a selfie. And the guy goes, okay, let's go your knucklehead,

(01:48):
and I get I'm like in a headlock. Yeah, And
he does a selfie and just as he's taking it,
I look, my guy's over there. This is just a
guy who's also wearing a white shirt in a baseball cap,
which is pretty.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Eff in common.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
So rewind that story now and see it from his
point of view. He's waiting for his wife to come through.
Connor O'Brien comes through and it's like, hey, beget it,
tell me.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I have talking about And I.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Told the guy I feel so, but you can delete it,
and he was looked like he was on the fence
about deleting it. I felt terrible, but I love moments
like that where I'm go right back down to whatever
you think you've achieved in life. There's a guy who
thinks I met Connor O'Brian. He's just an insane a hole.

(02:47):
That would be confusing. You're standing there, go to Brian
all of a sudden shows up.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Let's let selfie, what what?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, that's a great story, oh Lord, and well told God.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Conan O'Brien flying commercial and taking off his belt and shoes.
I mean, when was that or does he still do that?
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I wonder he doesn't even do the TSA PreCheck.
It's not that expensive, man, So.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
One thing, did you so? Conan O'Brien's probably really closer
to your era Katie as being the big late night
king in ours. Yeah, oh yeah, huge. I love him.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I think he's hysterically funny.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
He is, he is a funny, funny guy. Well, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
I love watching his stuff where he goes out in
the public and just messes with people. He's got a
great series on YouTube where I think if you just
type in Conan, he has his own channel and it's
just all this stuff of him with like Kevin Hart
having the intern drive and just completely screwing with her
the whole time.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's just wonderful.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah. And uh what another ConA of thing is, Oh
I heard Adam Sandler on a different podcast talking about
how when Conan So, Conan was a writer there and
a lot of those big stars from Sarah and Liver
are there, and then when Conan got his own show,
they were all so excited for him because they all
liked him, and Adam Sandler and David Spadeen, Chris Farline
all those people went over to somebody's house to watch

(04:16):
his first show because they were all so excited that
he was getting his big shot to be a big deal.
And uh, I needed to turn out to be a
big deal. Like I've mentioned a few times, he just
sold his podcast for one hundred and fifty million dollars.
Too serious, after all his success, so good for him.
But even with all that, he was on some buddy

(04:36):
else's show and talking about how and I think this
is true for a lot of people. How no matter
what has happened in his life, he's still the same
guy who was in high school. When in high school
he was a very awkward, not very well liked, weirdo
with not very many friends. And he said he's still that,
he still sees himself that way. He's still always uncomfortable.

(04:59):
He just he said he doesn't at this point, he's
sixty years old. He doesn't expect anything will ever change that.
So no level of crowds, cheering, money, success, anything has
changed who he was in high school. And even without
the crowd's money and everything like that, I feel the
same way too. So why is who we were in
high school baked into who we are for the rest

(05:20):
of our lives. Whose cruel trick was that?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
I guess back when I would have been a cave boy,
it just didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Life was so completely different for the.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
First ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent
of mankind's existence. It was, you know, all right, look,
you're you're of breeding age, you're of fighting age. You're
tracking down a mastadon and putting a spirit of age.
Let's get this done.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
When you're going to be dead by age twenty four
most likely. Yeah, yeah, so it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, we're searching for yourself at age forty eight as
a cave man.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Well that's a rarity.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
I just don't know who I am.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I've seen it work both ways too. I've known a
few people that were big deals in high school and
adult life has not worked out for them that well,
but they still see themselves as the big deal, and
it just it's kind of weird to be around, you know.
I mean, don't I look that great for you? But okay,
good for you? Well, I still got the nose in

(06:24):
the air. Congrats looking good.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
But it makes it hard to feel bad for them, though.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Right right, right, right?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I don't Yeah, I suppose so, I don't recall
running into anybody who really answered to that description recently,
but yeah, I don't know. I think I would pity
them all the more. But again, I haven't brushed up
against them, So I don't know. But getting back to
the whole caveman thing, so I guess, you know, typical
if you're going to have like a midnight a midlife crisis,
or you know what am I doing? Why am I

(06:53):
doing this? Is this how I want to spend the
rest of my life and be like at age seventeen
as a caveman, right right, all of this eating meat and.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sitting around a fire. And I wonder if that's the
biggest problem, If that's the biggest problem modern humans have,
is our brains and consciousness just was not designed to
go past like hardly past age twenty breed, win a battle,
die next right, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
And I'd imagine if there were scientists fifty thousand years ago,
if you were to say to them, what do you
suppose happens to the brain around age eighty? They would say,
what the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Why do you care? Right? Yeah? Are you going to
become disillusioned with life at age forty five? Forty five?
Who do you know is forty five? Says the caveman,
right yeah, yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And if they are, so, what if you'll excuse me,
there's a tiger chewing on my leg.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
But if you have imposter syndrome, I would say, if
Conan O'Brien still has imposter syndrome, you ain't getting rid
of yours either, no matter what you achieved. That's what
I learned.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I became aware that. Well,
I suppose I can go ahead and say it. My daughter,
like so many of us, has a bit of that.
And we were touring in law school the other day
and the two fabulous young women who were taking us
around on the tour admitted to flaming imposters syndrome. And

(08:29):
they were so sweet. They said, everybody has it. Everybody
has it, don't worry about it. You can do this,
You'll be fine. And it was great, and I think
more people need to know that. I tried to teach
my kids that, you know that feeling your big successful
dad has it every day every day.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Fake it till you make it seriously. But it's hard
to convince people. They think, oh, you're just saying that
to make me feel better, right.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I remember an interview I saw with Paul Begala. He
is one of the people that got Bill Clinton elected president,
and he was talking about what was like to be
at the White House and walk in there every single day,
and he said, if you don't walk into the White
House every day with imposter syndrome, there's something seriously wrong
with you, because everybody feels like I can't believe I'm here?
Why am I here? Of all people? Me right right?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
I am not good enough for this, I am not
important enough for this. I see the ghost of you know,
Thomas Jefferson standing there in the corner. Hi, Tom, did
you see the game last night?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
So I bet again kind of get in to the
other side of it. I feel like I have known
some people who don't seem like they've ever had any
self doubt one second in their lives. And are they
just pulling it off really well or are they actually
not ever have any self doubt? I think those.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
People probably exist, Katie, your opinion, I just think don't
think there are many.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
I feel like, if you hm, I feel like they're
probably just hiding it. Well, it's like a natural, a
natural thing for someone to feel.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, I think I would guess eighty percent of the
people you perceive are that way are faking it, And
maybe twenty percent of those people actually have whatever genetic
gift it is to be you know, super comfortable and
no impostor syndrome. I you know, it's I didn't really
have it until I became an adult, and I get.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
I don't know. I don't your money either, But it's
part partially because I hadn't achieved anything. So what would
I be an impostor about? I was just gonna say.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
As I kept running into things that were increasingly difficult,
I would think, oh boy, I could I could really
fail at this. Does anybody around here realize I could
completely fail at this?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I still katiecause I wear a suit to work most days.
I still like walking down the street in a suit.
Feel like people can look at me and say, what
was that guy to wearing a suit for? He's not
a suit guy? Who are you trying to? Kids?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Go out knowing a thing about you?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Right? You just could tell by looking at me that's
not a guy who wears a suit kind to act
as that.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Hey, you think he borrowed that suit or star or something.
Let's trying to impress Look at the dipshit in the
suit trying the kid right exactly?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's what I think.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
You guys want to hear something else about Conan as
far as you're really tall, and he had some you know,
Harold just played the clip for you one go ahead.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah, spinning up on this desk. I was almost as
tall as you are. You're very tall, yes, and I'm
a freak. Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I'm a kind of height and many people have said
that it's gonna that would hurt your career to be
that tall. I was told that there were over the
years guests that might not want to come on, especially
male actors that are smaller. No, I was self conscious
about that. I didn't want to as you know, if
you're the host, you want to make sure that everyone's comfortable. Yeah,

(11:55):
and I didn't want to be this big muppet's puppet
dangling over everybody, so I was constantly crouching.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
That's interesting. I'm more interested from the side of there
are actors who wouldn't go on a show because you'd
be shorter than the host really.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Or well because you would look really really short.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Uh huh. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
There have been a bunch of movies stars like that
through there is Tom Cruise.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
I'm glad I don't have to live my life thinking
about that.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Humphrey Bogart was tiny, which I hadn't realized until you know,
you know, he was long gone, but.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I just saw his So we were at the Warner
Brothers tour. My son and I took in Burbank and
they have the outfitty war in Casablanca. It's like, what
is he a pigmy? Was he a fifth grader? And
who could fit in that?

Speaker 4 (12:43):
He's only he was only five to eight?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh was even that tall? You mess up on a
tiny five eight. He had these tiny little shoes and pants.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
It's like, oh yeah, he probably had a twenty five
inch waist, as guys did at the time. But wow, yeah,
a lot of it is love sings with Ingrid Bergmann
other leading ladies. He was literally standing on a box.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Not sexy.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Wow, that's amazing because his work, he just looks taller.
You just make that assumption.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, O'Brien look up at him, and everybody knows
why I never went on Conan. That's right.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
Hey, just some things that you could look at on YouTube.
Conan Staring contest with Andy Richter, that's a good one.
Conan drives a ups truck kind of you remember that
was a funny one. He goes on a route with
the UPS driver. It's hilarious. He also visits a winery
to see how wine.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Is made, and I love that one as well. So okay,
I'll do stuff.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Excellent tips, thank you.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, I guess that's it.
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