April 29, 2025 • 12 mins
First, Jack shares a strange story...involving a stranger. Next, we take on the popular Man vs. Monkey story!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two different things. Sure, you can stick your head in
my car and I'll be right behind you. It's one
more thing. I'm now.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Are those interrelated, no, Katie, because they sound like it's
some sort of you're mounting an untoward act.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, that sounded like it got a little weird.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh okay, okay, these are two different stories. So stick
your head in my car. I'll be right behind you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Come on, persh Giggy.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'll start with this. I wish I'd have done this
on the radio show because I might need an answer.
I'm kind of surprised I did this. I got caught
off guard or in a weird moment or something like that.
So I'm coming out of a I don't even remember
what I was doing, walking out of the strip mall.
I'd gone into a little store or something, and I'm
walking out and this guy who was coming out of
a bagel shop or something, he had a little sack.
(00:57):
He walked by me. He said, hey, cool, I've not
seen one of those. I was just getting out of
my cyberbeast and he said, do you mind if I
poke my head? And I've just never seen the inside.
And I had like a slight hesitation of you know,
I was just judging him quickly in my brain, are
you okay or not.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
He was.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because I would have said no if he was transient obviously,
or or you know, anywhere in the bumish area or
scary looking. But he was not. Clearly. It wasn't like
he was a businessman. Well to do about to go
get in a nice car. I mean, he was was
a little little closer to the hesitation than I probably
(01:44):
should agree to.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But I said, judge, not everybody can wear a suit
and drive a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, yeah, yeah, guy probably has like a job and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Just disgusting. This was this, This is all on demeanor,
so care not not as like not as not as
not as uh stuff. This guy's a brain surgeon. He's
just off that day. But anyway, you're getting a vibe.
I was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but just a little
(02:13):
bit of one. Okay. Anyway, so I said, okay, sure,
and I stepped to the side, and he leans into
my truck a little bit, and I thought he'd just
take a quick look around and that'd be it. He
leans way into my truck like way in there and
way low, which was weird. I was like, uh, so
(02:35):
kind of cool, isn't it. And then and then he
kind of stands back up and says, yeah, really really awesome. Yeah,
I'd like to have one some day or something like that.
I close the door and I just thought that that
is weird, and I get my truck and I I
drive off anyway, the rest of the day, I noticed,
like right away first time, when I closed the door,
the door makes a weird sound when I close it,
(02:57):
like a weird clanking sound that it never made before.
And so I don't know if this is in my mind,
or if it's Tesla's legendary low quality, or or if
he was a Tesla hater, like there's a lot of
him out there and he knows some sort of like
thing you can undo or put in or something. Because
(03:21):
it was weird the way he leaned in my truck,
like a little too long and a little too low.
It was just weird, that is. And my door makes
a weird sound now when I close it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If the question before us is am I a paranoid
nut hatching nut charming? I would say no, no, that
that's odd.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, well, if you didn't have the backstory on Tesla's
then I would be pretty paranoid. But the fact that
people are you know, uh, what do you call it?
Vandalizing them all across the country. Yeah, I mean he
just had a weird demeanor. There was something off with him.
I shouldn't have said yes anyhow. So if you if
(04:03):
you're scoping.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Out somebody's vehicles, you're not gonna get down low. Now,
you're gonna be up hie, so you can get a
good scan.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, maybe maybe he was wondering about some ass. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I wanted to check out the floor mats.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't know. I think he did something to my door.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hmmm. Heinked him down, look for him start patrolling that
strip mall.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
According to the Google, it's possible to damage the cyber
truck doors, including potentially under the pedal area.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
If you don't I did google are on the doors?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Which would your knees bend?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Different area? That's funny. I googled this and I didn't
come up with anything, and you did right away. It's okay,
so huh, I'll have to look into that. That would
suck freaking weirdos. What else? What do you got there, Katie?
What's what's the story?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, some AI overview things. But it's it says if
you slam the doors closed, it can cause damage also
to the inside of the truck. I'd have to read
this more, but there's some connection between some element under
the down by the pedal area that connects.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
To this is exactly where his head was. Weirdly, you're
just really into pedals, dude, what's your story? Hey, you
got nice petals, nice break pedal.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So this guy goes around acting all sketchy and vandalizing
teslas from the inside out. It's his insidious and inexplicable
plot instead of.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Just keying them or something that night. Odd well, it'd
be the equivalent of like being an online troll. Right,
you did something that gives you pleasure, just annoyed someone else? Yeah, yeah, agreed.
All right, So that's that. If you know anything about that,
uh email or whatever. So the other thing about the
(06:03):
I'll be right behind you. Joe needs to retell them.
A brief version of the man versus Monkey story. The
it's an ape jack.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The Internet is a blaze with the question of whether
one hundred unarmed men could defeat a single gorilla in
a fight. We're talking about adult silver back Lowland gorilla
sixt eight hundred pounds, the mightiest of the jungle beasts.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Katie, what this is just such a perfect painting of
how this is how guys work. Some guy was sitting
there and went, you know what, I wonder and he
spent all this time to put this together.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just such a dude thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
They were either drinking and smoking pot, and maybe it
was even at the zoo, but one of the guys
pointed out that, you know, you wouldn't stand a chance
that gorilla would kill you in two seconds, and his
buddy said, what if you had like ten guys, and
they agreed. No, it was still no, Oh, what about
like a hundred guys?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And people are getting close. We're talking a fair fight.
And so the conclusion was more or less that if
you had a strategy with one hundred people, you could
overwhelm it eventually, but the earlier guys it's going to
be pretty rough for.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And yeah, you would have to stick with the plan,
and everybody have to do their job.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You stick with the plan. That's my whole You'll be
right behind use. The carnage would be awful, right you
go first, I'll be right behind you. I will fulfill
my end of the plan. Once you have worn it
out with your being bludgeoned, I will be right behind you.
I mean, I just I don't think this would work
unless you are fighting for your lives, because you know,
(07:43):
we've seen in war people are willing to sacrifice their
lives for this sort of plan in wartime. But you'd
have to be that. If it's just I wonder if
we can beat this gorilla, you're gonna say, no, I'm
out that the first person that it like rips its
head off, yeah, and urinates down. It's you know, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's more a saying than something that the ape would
actually do. But no, if you see if you see
the gorilla chomp on a guy's arm and just tear
it straight off, yeah, you'd be thinking, you know, I
was super curious about this, But I'm good.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean, we'll just keep wondering. Yeah, exactly. This will
make a great story for later.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I'm glad I got the Great Gorilla Fight T
shirt before it started.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So if you go to Armstrong and Getty dot com
on Katie's corner, I put the thread that has this
in it on there. And one of the AI videos
is this gorilla with one hundred different men running at it,
and it just obliterates every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, that's the beauty of this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It was launched by a guy who's like into AI creations,
including videos and uh, and it's sprinkled with AI videos
of here is a lowland gorilla pumping off you'ren in
a gym. It's utterly convincing in the way that we
used to call them deep fakes and now we just
call them AI videos. It's utterly convincing and hilarious. All right,
(09:10):
where's the guys are charging at him?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Videos?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You have to you have to scroll down, but I
think it's right below the last Was it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
A shirtless guys? Mm hmm uh.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's on a gray background. It looks like a simulation.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But I don't doubt that a hundred committed dudes could
eventually overwhelm the gorilla if you were like committed. But
if you weren't, he is gonna just lay waste to
the first dozen or so and everybody else is going
to run away. Think why am I doing this again
to answer some online trivia question?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh, look at the beleaguered gorilla fighting those fellas.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's not how I would go at all. K.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I just I just sent you the act, the one
that I was talking about. They're like robots. Actually, now
that I'm looking at it, I need I need better glasses.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But it just wow, yes you do, it's just going gorilla. No,
the robots. You must be at the zoo. I'm great.
Oh I see it's a robot, always entertained the giraffe.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh, this is this is the uh, the early edition
of the A video before it's got them fleshed out
with the uh. It's like the early editions one of
your Star Wars movies that occasionally you'll see online.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And it would just rip you to shreds. It would
be a gruesome, gruesome death too well.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I think you know what honestly, especially judging by
this video, which I consider scientifically valid, it's mostly bludgeonings.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah. I've seen those videos where the gorilla is pound
on each other like that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, and there they're giant arms. Yeah. They they willed
them like clubs and they just place you would every
bone it contacted would be broken.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Just think about the lady who got her face rep
by that chimp.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
She got a haircut?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Right, Yeah, did forgot to you know, say, hey, by
the way, I've gotten a new hairdoo.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What do you think about haircut? Yeah, you gotta, you
gotta open with that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, a chimp is a fraction the size of one
of these gorillas too. But the interesting thing about chimps, Katie,
this is really taking such a terrible turn, and I'm
regretting it even as I'm speaking these words. I was
reading a it was Oh the context was that documentary
that came out a while back, a couple of years
(11:44):
ago about chimp moms.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh you remember that? Is this the one that was
breastfeeding them?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well I wasn't gonna go there, but yeah, that's right.
That was an aspect of it, which is just I mean, how.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Effing crazy are you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But the thing about chimps, the way it works, Yeah,
that's the operative.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yes, body party.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The thing about chimps and apes in general is they
go for your eyes and your genitals. They are through
evolutionary uh you know, means equipped with the instinctive knowledge
of here's how I end this fast and so ike,
keep your guard up and down. If you find yourself
(12:28):
in a fight with a chimp.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Off come the generals. The what off goes jels through
most of the word. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know, it's kind of a mixed blessing in a way.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Think about it, kidding, I just said testicles.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh well, I guess that's it.
Two different things. Sure, you can stick your head in
my car and I'll be right behind you. It's one
more thing. I'm now.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Are those interrelated, no, Katie, because they sound like it's
some sort of you're mounting an untoward act.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, that sounded like it got a little weird.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh okay, okay, these are two different stories. So stick
your head in my car. I'll be right behind you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Come on, persh Giggy.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'll start with this. I wish I'd have done this
on the radio show because I might need an answer.
I'm kind of surprised I did this. I got caught
off guard or in a weird moment or something like that.
So I'm coming out of a I don't even remember
what I was doing, walking out of the strip mall.
I'd gone into a little store or something, and I'm
walking out and this guy who was coming out of
a bagel shop or something, he had a little sack.
(00:57):
He walked by me. He said, hey, cool, I've not
seen one of those. I was just getting out of
my cyberbeast and he said, do you mind if I
poke my head? And I've just never seen the inside.
And I had like a slight hesitation of you know,
I was just judging him quickly in my brain, are
you okay or not.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
He was.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Because I would have said no if he was transient obviously,
or or you know, anywhere in the bumish area or
scary looking. But he was not. Clearly. It wasn't like
he was a businessman. Well to do about to go
get in a nice car. I mean, he was was
a little little closer to the hesitation than I probably
(01:44):
should agree to.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But I said, judge, not everybody can wear a suit
and drive a cyber truck.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Okay, yeah, yeah, guy probably has like a job and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Just disgusting. This was this, This is all on demeanor,
so care not not as like not as not as
not as uh stuff. This guy's a brain surgeon. He's
just off that day. But anyway, you're getting a vibe.
I was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but just a little
(02:13):
bit of one. Okay. Anyway, so I said, okay, sure,
and I stepped to the side, and he leans into
my truck a little bit, and I thought he'd just
take a quick look around and that'd be it. He
leans way into my truck like way in there and
way low, which was weird. I was like, uh, so
(02:35):
kind of cool, isn't it. And then and then he
kind of stands back up and says, yeah, really really awesome. Yeah,
I'd like to have one some day or something like that.
I close the door and I just thought that that
is weird, and I get my truck and I I
drive off anyway, the rest of the day, I noticed,
like right away first time, when I closed the door,
the door makes a weird sound when I close it,
(02:57):
like a weird clanking sound that it never made before.
And so I don't know if this is in my mind,
or if it's Tesla's legendary low quality, or or if
he was a Tesla hater, like there's a lot of
him out there and he knows some sort of like
thing you can undo or put in or something. Because
(03:21):
it was weird the way he leaned in my truck,
like a little too long and a little too low.
It was just weird, that is. And my door makes
a weird sound now when I close it.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
If the question before us is am I a paranoid
nut hatching nut charming? I would say no, no, that
that's odd.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, well, if you didn't have the backstory on Tesla's
then I would be pretty paranoid. But the fact that
people are you know, uh, what do you call it?
Vandalizing them all across the country. Yeah, I mean he
just had a weird demeanor. There was something off with him.
I shouldn't have said yes anyhow. So if you if
(04:03):
you're scoping.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Out somebody's vehicles, you're not gonna get down low. Now,
you're gonna be up hie, so you can get a
good scan.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well, maybe maybe he was wondering about some ass. I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I wanted to check out the floor mats.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't know. I think he did something to my door.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Hmmm. Heinked him down, look for him start patrolling that
strip mall.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
According to the Google, it's possible to damage the cyber
truck doors, including potentially under the pedal area.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
If you don't I did google are on the doors?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Which would your knees bend?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Different area? That's funny. I googled this and I didn't
come up with anything, and you did right away. It's okay,
so huh, I'll have to look into that. That would
suck freaking weirdos. What else? What do you got there, Katie?
What's what's the story?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Well, some AI overview things. But it's it says if
you slam the doors closed, it can cause damage also
to the inside of the truck. I'd have to read
this more, but there's some connection between some element under
the down by the pedal area that connects.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
To this is exactly where his head was. Weirdly, you're
just really into pedals, dude, what's your story? Hey, you
got nice petals, nice break pedal.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So this guy goes around acting all sketchy and vandalizing
teslas from the inside out. It's his insidious and inexplicable
plot instead of.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Just keying them or something that night. Odd well, it'd
be the equivalent of like being an online troll. Right,
you did something that gives you pleasure, just annoyed someone else? Yeah, yeah, agreed.
All right, So that's that. If you know anything about that,
uh email or whatever. So the other thing about the
(06:03):
I'll be right behind you. Joe needs to retell them.
A brief version of the man versus Monkey story. The
it's an ape jack.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
The Internet is a blaze with the question of whether
one hundred unarmed men could defeat a single gorilla in
a fight. We're talking about adult silver back Lowland gorilla
sixt eight hundred pounds, the mightiest of the jungle beasts.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Katie, what this is just such a perfect painting of
how this is how guys work. Some guy was sitting
there and went, you know what, I wonder and he
spent all this time to put this together.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Just such a dude thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
They were either drinking and smoking pot, and maybe it
was even at the zoo, but one of the guys
pointed out that, you know, you wouldn't stand a chance
that gorilla would kill you in two seconds, and his
buddy said, what if you had like ten guys, and
they agreed. No, it was still no, Oh, what about
like a hundred guys?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And people are getting close. We're talking a fair fight.
And so the conclusion was more or less that if
you had a strategy with one hundred people, you could
overwhelm it eventually, but the earlier guys it's going to
be pretty rough for.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And yeah, you would have to stick with the plan,
and everybody have to do their job.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You stick with the plan. That's my whole You'll be
right behind use. The carnage would be awful, right you
go first, I'll be right behind you. I will fulfill
my end of the plan. Once you have worn it
out with your being bludgeoned, I will be right behind you.
I mean, I just I don't think this would work
unless you are fighting for your lives, because you know,
(07:43):
we've seen in war people are willing to sacrifice their
lives for this sort of plan in wartime. But you'd
have to be that. If it's just I wonder if
we can beat this gorilla, you're gonna say, no, I'm
out that the first person that it like rips its
head off, yeah, and urinates down. It's you know, I think.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's more a saying than something that the ape would
actually do. But no, if you see if you see
the gorilla chomp on a guy's arm and just tear
it straight off, yeah, you'd be thinking, you know, I
was super curious about this, But I'm good.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean, we'll just keep wondering. Yeah, exactly. This will
make a great story for later.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I'm glad I got the Great Gorilla Fight T
shirt before it started.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
So if you go to Armstrong and Getty dot com
on Katie's corner, I put the thread that has this
in it on there. And one of the AI videos
is this gorilla with one hundred different men running at it,
and it just obliterates every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, that's the beauty of this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
It was launched by a guy who's like into AI creations,
including videos and uh, and it's sprinkled with AI videos
of here is a lowland gorilla pumping off you'ren in
a gym. It's utterly convincing in the way that we
used to call them deep fakes and now we just
call them AI videos. It's utterly convincing and hilarious. All right,
(09:10):
where's the guys are charging at him?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Videos?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You have to you have to scroll down, but I
think it's right below the last Was it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
A shirtless guys? Mm hmm uh.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's on a gray background. It looks like a simulation.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
But I don't doubt that a hundred committed dudes could
eventually overwhelm the gorilla if you were like committed. But
if you weren't, he is gonna just lay waste to
the first dozen or so and everybody else is going
to run away. Think why am I doing this again
to answer some online trivia question?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, oh, look at the beleaguered gorilla fighting those fellas.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's not how I would go at all. K.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I just I just sent you the act, the one
that I was talking about. They're like robots. Actually, now
that I'm looking at it, I need I need better glasses.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
But it just wow, yes you do, it's just going gorilla. No,
the robots. You must be at the zoo. I'm great.
Oh I see it's a robot, always entertained the giraffe.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Oh, this is this is the uh, the early edition
of the A video before it's got them fleshed out
with the uh. It's like the early editions one of
your Star Wars movies that occasionally you'll see online.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And it would just rip you to shreds. It would
be a gruesome, gruesome death too well.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
And I think you know what honestly, especially judging by
this video, which I consider scientifically valid, it's mostly bludgeonings.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah. I've seen those videos where the gorilla is pound
on each other like that.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, and there they're giant arms. Yeah. They they willed
them like clubs and they just place you would every
bone it contacted would be broken.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Just think about the lady who got her face rep
by that chimp.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
She got a haircut?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Right, Yeah, did forgot to you know, say, hey, by
the way, I've gotten a new hairdoo.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
What do you think about haircut? Yeah, you gotta, you
gotta open with that.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, a chimp is a fraction the size of one
of these gorillas too. But the interesting thing about chimps, Katie,
this is really taking such a terrible turn, and I'm
regretting it even as I'm speaking these words. I was
reading a it was Oh the context was that documentary
that came out a while back, a couple of years
(11:44):
ago about chimp moms.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Oh you remember that? Is this the one that was
breastfeeding them?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Well I wasn't gonna go there, but yeah, that's right.
That was an aspect of it, which is just I mean, how.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Effing crazy are you.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
But the thing about chimps, the way it works, Yeah,
that's the operative.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yes, body party.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
The thing about chimps and apes in general is they
go for your eyes and your genitals. They are through
evolutionary uh you know, means equipped with the instinctive knowledge
of here's how I end this fast and so ike,
keep your guard up and down. If you find yourself
(12:28):
in a fight with a chimp.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Off come the generals. The what off goes jels through
most of the word. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You know, it's kind of a mixed blessing in a way.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Think about it, kidding, I just said testicles.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh well, I guess that's it.
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