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We are here talking sport with you until eight. The
Super Rugby Semifinals locked in Friday night Blues Brumby's Eden
Park five past seven, Saturday afternoon Hurricanes Chiefs sky Stadium
four thirty five, and it's that kickoff time which I
find most interesting. The commonly held view I think was
that at the top two the Canes and the Blue
went through, there'd be two semis, one on Friday night
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and one on Saturday night. So how have we landed
at four point thirty five on Saturday instead? Look, don't
get me wrong, I love it, but how did we
get here? Rather than the traditional Saturday night seven oh
five timeslot? Hurricanes CEO Evan Lea standing by to explain
it shortly. Your thoughts too on the best kickoff times,
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of a game on your couch. And I also want
your view on whether this might actually have been done
to avoid a game in a completely different sport, the
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Three games to go in the twenty twenty four Super
Rugby season. Four teams left standing as we look forward
to the semifinals. Friday A right Blues Brumbies Even Park
five past seven, Saturday afternoon, Hurricanes Chiefs sky Stadium four
thirty five. Hurricane CEO Avan Lee is with us on
sports Talk. Thanks for taking the time this evening, Evan Big,
We're coming up. How exciting, first of all is it
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to have a home semi final to look forward to?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hey, Piney, it's awesome, It's fantastic. You know, I guess
that's why do you play rugby or you work in
sport to have these kind of moments. So just a
different buzz around the place this morning. Yeah, massive fixture
for the team on the on the weekend, you know,
and we're just obviously hoping that people get out and
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you know, support support the Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What sort of crowd are you hoping for?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I was just looking at it before we've sold. We've
probably sold eleven thousand tickets. That's just on pre sale,
so you know too members buying more tickets, et cetera,
et cetera. So I'd be surprised if it was less
than twenty five. That's what we got in twenty sixteen
for the same fixture semi final insta chief, So I'd
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be hoping for that, But you never know. I think
looking at the Phoenix, you know, the Chief came out
earlier in the week and was talking about big crowds,
and it just kind of snowballed from there really and
then you know, a magnificent night as you know, well Piney,
but you know, we're sort of hoping for the same thing.
You know, a lot of Hurricane stands out there and
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you know, still supporting the team, but really wanting to
get along and get in the ground and be a
difference to the game of.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Course I had a Grand Final in twenty sixteen as well,
which from memory was a sellout. So what twenty five thousand,
for example this coming weekend, would that be your biggest
crowd since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, I was thinking about it again earlier that we
had I think about twenty six thousand against the Crusaders
at the back end of a round robin, maybe around
twenty nineteen. But yes, certainly for a playoff match, and
I think, you know, as a rugby and to go
up against the Chiefs in the semifinals it was pretty awesome.
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You can't get much better than that. So yeah, I
think people will people will get behind it, and it's
obvious that they already are with the tickets that have
been sold. So we'll know, you know, midnight tonight, we'll
know we've got a fairly good stare on how it's
going to track for the rest of the week. But yeah,
it's really exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Four thirty five kickoff on Saturday. Who makes that call, Evan,
Do you get to make that call?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
No? Not this week. We did last week before the quarterfinal,
I would have said if we win, well, I did
say if we win one, semi will be Friday seven
oh five, and the other one we Saturday seven o five.
So they put the top qualifier at four to thirty
five on Saturday, which is the time that we would
have picked anyway. The Warriors play after that, so they're trying,
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you know, obviously they want people to come to Sky,
want people to come to the ground on Saturday, but
they also want them to watch the warriorslater on. So
that's I think that's the background behind why it's four
thirty five as to you know, big rugby game, big
league game, how do people watch both? That's the that's
the motivation as far as I can see.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So that's so it's Sky's call. They make the call
for a four to thirty.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, they're a big part of it. Last week it
was our call. We got to choose whatever we wanted.
You know, people tend to watch sport at night more
than they do in the afternoon, so that's just a
big driver for Sky's subscribers and broadcasting model. So that's
been that's been the way it's been for a long time.
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They're getting they're obviously better now with afternoon games, which
is which is really encouraging, and they also want big
crowds because it looks better on TV. So you know,
we're really happy that they're willing to have the odd
afternoon game and to have it at the semi finals.
It's just icing on the cake really.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Obviously four thirty five works well for a segment of
your fan base, those with the younger children, for example,
who perhaps wouldn't come to a game at seven o'clock.
What about your clubs around the Wellington region Eavan, who
play club rugby on Saturday at you know, mid afternoon,
how are they feeling about a four point thirty five kickoff?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I mean that's all done through our relationship with
Wellington Rugby, so they manage all that club rugby in
the region, so they are put in club rugby forward.
They've got one hundred and ninety fixtures on Saturday to
sort of play around with. But you know, the clubs,
the clubs are keen to you know, obviously to play
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their club rugby but also to come to the stadium.
So it's not ideal in that regard. But you know,
especially if you didn't change the club rugby kickoff time,
that would be sort of counterproductive. But bringing it forward
to one o'clock means those people can play their games
or support their club and then get down to the
stadium if they want to, can.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Do the players like afternoon games.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, they love it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I think everyone loves it really, Like it's a long day,
you know, when you get up at whatever time in
the morning to wait around till seven o'clock at night
is actually it's actually a long day. And when you
finish the game, you've still got an evening, you know,
get home to your kids or your partner or what
have you and have some time with them. Whereas you know,
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late game on a sad day, that's your evening gone.
So it's I think it's the best of both worlds
to be honest, At that sort of four thirty five slot.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Do you, at the start of the year budget for
playoff games? Do you think to yourself, Okay, we've got
a good team here, Well we might host a quarter,
we might host a semi. Do you factor that into
your numbers at the start of the season.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
No, we don't. We never have and I'd be surprised
if we ever will. But it definitely has a goals
about where we want to be. We just don't put
any numbers around it. And you know, getting a couple
of big crowds is obviously a real bonus. But I
don't think any any of the New Zealand teams budget
for finals.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I know that Wellington Phoenix said, you know, big crowds,
they don't get to keep the gate take unfortunately from
finals matches, but they said big regular season crowds really
made a difference as far as as I think, you
do keep the revenue, don't you from these playoff matches.
How big a difference does that make to your bottom line?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh? Huge, to be honest, it's more expensive to play
a game in the playoffs than it is round robin
in terms of stadium cost. You will sort of pay
a fee to the opposition. But no, a semi final
was as massive final would just be incredible really. But
you know, we ever said before, the whole organization is
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focused on Saturday. It's going to take a big job
to beat the Chiefs. So but yeah, the finances from
a semi final are great if you get twenty plus.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
It's it's through that have emotional night on on Saturday
or afternoon into the evening on Saturday. Obviously for you
guys making the semi but to be saying goodbye to
the Rebels. There were some some really emotional scenes afterwards. Tough,
I'm sure from from your point of view to have
to say goodbye to to a fellow Super Rugby franchise.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Totally, totally. I think, you know, seeing the raw emotion
in the stands and with the team was a pretty
stark reminder of what they're what they're heading towards, and
you know, it could be it could be any of us,
to be fair, but I've had some difficult times off
the field and it's not you know, Melbourne's a very
competitive sporting market, so you know they've always tried to
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get that on their side. I think you know they've
had some very good teams and very good players over time.
So yeah, it's really it's really, it is sad, I think,
and I think our team did talk about it during
the week about what could they expect from the Rebels
and that was one of the comments, as I think
was Brad Shield said that you know they're going to
be incredibly motivated, their backs against the wall, they've got
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nothing to lose. But when that final whistle went, that
was the reality obviously for them and I think half
of those players will find a home in Australia, but
half of them will have to go offshore if they
want to keep playing. So it's really it's really difficult
for them and no one and no one enjoys it.
It's it's some of the realities of professional sport, but
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it's difficult for everybody to stomach, and.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It'll probably it's looking very likely that it'll mean an
eleven team competition next year. Do you have a view
on on what playoffs might look like? Eight from eleven
seems too many to me. I don't know what you think.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I think if i'm ont eight from twelve is
too many, but six makes more sense. It's all still
in the pipeline. But in the top six you'd have
the top two would have a have a buy through
to the second round and then you'd have you to
be fine or so. I think that makes more sense.
And you know it's a very competitive competition, but unless
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you're in that seventh or eighth position, I think everyone
feels the same.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Indeed. Indeed, and Jack Measley, the inaugural chief executive of
Super Rugby Pacific, either hands just or is about to
start in his role. Have you got any any idea
what his first priorities might be in that newly created position.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I haven't actually met Jack yet. I've exchanged messages with him,
but yeah, I think it's very much about very much
about the fans. So you know, what is the what
does the drawl look like yes next year, and how
can we manipulate it so that it's better for the
fans with big games at the start, et cetera. I
think he's got a big job, but everyone that I
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know who knows him said he's great, and I think
that's that's positive And the most important thing for me
is we're going to have somebody who's twenty four hours
the day, seven days a week thinking about Super rugby
and we haven't had that before through the National Unions
or SANSA. So I think I think that's really exciting.
He's come through, he's got a good grounding in sport
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and we'ch the Lion, so you know he's going to
be a smart guy and everyone's just behind him. But
I think the Sands focused stuff pining to be honest,
like how do we market the game more effectively as
a big part of what he'd be doing and He's
got a lot of support from the clubs, so everyone's
very willing to get on board.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, look forward to seeing how it all plays out. Hey, Evan,
thanks for your time this evening and all the best
for a great week and a big, big crowd at
sky Stadium on Saturday. That's avonlea Hurricanes CEO with us
on Sports Talk. Your chance to react now. I know
there's been a lot of chatter around about the kickoff times.
Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Our lines are
open for you to jump on. I said the other
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day on the show that four thirty five probably works
better for more people to attend a game, and five
past seven works better for people to watch a game
on TV. That might be a bit of a generalization,
but that's how it feels to me. Four thirty five
rules a lot more people in than seven oh five does. Well,
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flip it around. Seven oh five rules a lot of
people out that it won't rule out at four thirty five,
especially in the winter, families in particular, late afternoon is
far more appealing than seven o'clock for going along to
the game. But I think this might be the first time,
certainly first time I can remember where the kickoff time
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of a game in another sport has become part of
a scheduling discussion. The Warriors play the Storm in an
NROL blockbuster Saturday Night, seven thirty, A massive number of
people will want to watch both the Super Rugby semifinal
and the Warriors, And thanks to this piece of shuegelling,
they can Super Rugby at four thirty. Warriors, it said,
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makes a lot of sense on many levels, and crucially
it does put the sports fan first. We don't have
to choose one or the other, or double screen or
watch one and follow along with another. We can watch
them both back to back. Now. Apparently, the mooting of
this idea, the four point thirty five Saturday kickoff, came
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initially from the Blues who looked at in the calendar,
saw the Warriors game this Saturday night and asked to
avoid a cross town clash with that game if they
finished top, which would have seen them play their semi
final on the Saturday.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
As it turned out, they finished second and they played
on the Friday night. Now, but the point stands that
a clash has been identified and avoided. Is this the
Wars effect in New Zealand Rugby and Skysport realizing it's
not very wise to try and compete with the Warriors
right now. Well if so, it is a terrific piece
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of self examination and awareness from New Zealand Rugby, in
particular outside their own tent because if that stuck with
tradition and played Super Rugby Semi Final number two at
seven o'clock on Saturday night, there would have been an
inevitable drop in viewer numbers because some people would have
just chose to wash the Warriors. There will also been
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some people who wouldn't have gone along to sky Stadium
because it would have meant they missed the Warrior's game.
They might now go because they'll be able to get
home in time afterwards. Seems like a win for me.
The only complaints I've heard about four point thirty five,
and they're valid, come from rugby clubs, and not necessarily
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just the players, but those who are running the clubs.
All rugby clubs and in fact all amateur sports clubs
rely on bar takings as part of their revenue, don't they.
Clubs in Wellington will now have two consecutive Saturdays quarterfinal
and this weekend semifinal where they're players, their members, spectators
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and visiting teams won't come back to their club rooms
in as big a numbers. They'll instead go to the
game or even go home to watch the game, and
that will affect the bar take of those rugby clubs
not once but twice. So there is that side to
it as well, And I'd be very keen to hear
from you if you have some experience in that area,
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if you're part of a grassroots club and the impact
that afternoon kickoffs might have on you so plenty to
get stuck into there, would love to hear your views.
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Seven twenty seven us talk to be heaps of feedback
coming through on text, which I'll get to in a moment.
Our lines open though on our eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. Just be keen to know from you, particularly
if you well a couple of couple of questions. If
you're involved in grassroots sport, in particular in club rugby,
I'd be keen to know just how how key bar
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take is and how much this would affect if you've
got two Saturdays in the middle of the season as
Wellington rape Clubs have now, where the patronage at you're
at your club rugby bar is reduced because there's a
game on at the stadium.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
Look at.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I might just be imagining it, but I've heard some
anecdotal evidence around about it, talking to a couple of
people at the game on Saturday actually who were saying
that that there was a bit of there was a
bit of discontent around rugby clubs and Wellington about it,
and in fact you heard Eavenly say that Wellington Rugby
are working to push kickoff times back to around you know,
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to one o'clock. I think most club rugby are the
main game if you want to call it. That is
a two forty five or a three o'clock kickoff on
a Saturday afternoon. So once you're playing that game, what
it's all, it's not finished till four point thirty, probably
at the earlier, So you're not going to get to
the you're not going to get to the stadium au
back at one o'clock. All done by three. That gives
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you time to get showered, get changed, whatever it is,
and get down to the game. But yeah, the collateral
damage is that people don't come back to the clubrooms
and as bigger numbers as they ordinarily would, and therefore
your bar take is going to be compromised and it's
going to be down, it stands to reason. So that
feels to me to be the only complaint I've heard
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about the four thirty five. Otherwise, people going to games
or going to the game at four thirty five, It
seems that there are a lot more people who would
go to a four thirty five game then we'ld go
to a seven h five game. There just seems to
be a lot more to like about a game at
four thirty five. And then you add in the extra
Warriors factor on Saturday night, a Warriors team that's won
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three in a row up against the Melbourne Storm, who,
as we know, are an absolute powerhouse when it comes
to the NRL. A lot of people are going to
want to watch that. If the Super Rugby semi final
was on Saturday night at seven o'clock, there'd be people
in Wellington who wouldn't go to the rugby because they
want to watch the Warriors but also keep an eye
on the rugby. I mean, I suppose you could watch
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it on your phone out the game, but it's more
likely I think that people in Wellington are going to
if there was a clash of rugby and rugby league
that they just stay home watch watch one on their
TV and one on the tablet or vice versa or whatever.
It might be. Double screen. It's common these days. Jeremy
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doesn't agree on text Piney No one and Wellington is
not going to go to a Hurricane semifinal to watch
a round robin Warriors game, No chance. The Warriors do
have loyal fans in Auckland, but it ain't that big
and everywhere else interesting Jeremy. I so I'm really really
happy I'm going to be able to watch both, and
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you understand if it came initially from the Blues because
they are the ones directly affected in terms of gate
up in Auckland. If, as has been reported by a
couple of media outlets, it was the Blues who were
the instigators of this when they were in with a
chance of finishing top therefore, would have the Saturday night
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kickoff if they went to the powers that be and said, hey,
we can see something coming here which would quite like
to avoid. Would you be okay with the Saturday semi
final being at four thirty five? You can understand that.
But for the Hurricanes to say you were happy with
it as well, I mean they're happy with it for
a number of reasons, as Avonlea said, better for their fans,
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the players like it a lot more, and any suggestion
that people won't come because they want to watch the
Wars as well goes out the window because you can
watch both. Simple Party says this text rugby clubs will
show the Warriors game and should have two for one
drinks until the first try problem solved. Not bad. You've
got to be innovative. You have to be innovative. Brince says,
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I'm not happy with the Hurricanes playing in the afternoon,
club rugby is impacted. I want people to support their
club by coming back to the clubrooms and watch the
game there rather than go to the stadium. I won't
be going to the stadium, says Brent. Well. Again, It's
another option, isn't it. If I'm a rugby club this week,
I'm getting innovative about it. I'm doing two for one
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or making it attractive to come back to the clubrooms
rather than go to the stadium. If they want to
make the most of it, install a big big screen,
have some prize as, some raffles, some giveaways, get a
former player down there to do, you know, do some
sort of Q and A at halftime or something like that.
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Make an occasion of it, because you can easily sit
there and grumble and say, oh no one's going to
come back. Well, if you want them to come back,
make them come back. Daytime rugby is the best for
players and coaches? Is this one? And simply start the
club games earlier, which they are. Let's get inside the
Blues camp. Ricco Yoanni was up for media today ahead
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of their game against the Brumbas yesterday. His brother a
Kidder announced that this will be his last season playing
for the Blues. So Rico Joanni was last first of
all in the media session about the impact of a
kidder Yoanni on the Blues.
Speaker 7 (23:49):
He's been a pioneer in the space for us young
boys that are now the call group here today. So
you know, he's the first one sort of that we
saw in the our known regions sort of make it
out of school and at such a young age, he
sort of paved the way. And he's just grown as
a player throughout his whole time here and even until
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his final year. You know, he's one of our best
players on on field always, so he's also grown as
a man as well, and I think he sort of
was forced that way to do it quite quite young,
quite early, with a lot of the sort of media
and social media surrounding him I think back a couple
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of years now. So yeah, like I'm just super proud
of him, man. I'm sure the city and the club's
proud of everything he's given.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
So a Kia, you only with a couple more games
to play for the Blues, but Patrick twey p a
lot too, going to miss the rest of the season
with an injury he sustained on Friday night against the
Fiji and Drewer. Sorry Saturday night against the Fiji and Drewer.
What's the impact of Patrick toweep a lot to missing
for the Blues.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
It's huge and Petty has been on five all season
sort of form of his career and it was sad
to see him go down Saturday. But I think something
that's been awesome about our teams, like we've had late
call ups, we've had injuries midweek and whatnot, even on
game they you know, so and everyone's just been able
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to step up. And Vern's put put the confidence and
belief in the boys who haven't had too much game
time that they're still ready.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
So it's not like we're you know, getting a fresh
lock out. You know we've got you know, I think.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
Sam Darry's come and right Laggy's back, so you know
there's there's experience there.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
But yeah, I guess Patty's presence will definitely still be missed.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
What about Vern Cotter as head coach of the Blues,
first time he's been in charge of the Blues and
has guided them to within one game of the Super
Rugby Final. How does Rica Yoanni assess the impact of
Vern Cotter.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Vern's just got a very good feel on the team,
and he sort of gets what the locker room's feeling.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
And I guess with his it's like a it's like
a breath of fresh yere. But like obviously with his
his his old school obviously, so it's not really a.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Fresh fresh but I think he's and he's just got
like a good feeling of the pulse of the team.
And you know, he's he's able to press the right
buttons when we need a lyft, when we need a
chilling out or or whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
But nothing that's good.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
He's he's just he believes in the athletes we have
in this team, and you know, he's formed a game
plan very simple around those you know, we we love
having our big boys caring hard through the middle and
then passing it to our fast wingers. So it's been
awesome and you know, the boys are just brought and
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you know it's but we were a bit your sort
of stop startersh at the start, but now you know,
with that full buy and sort of coming back from
Japan really is it's been awesome.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
And he's he's been unreal for us.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
And finally from Rico Yuani, the value of finals experience
and this is not new territory of course for the Blues.
They're normally involved in quarterfinals and beyond. So how much
value will finals experience be in the weekend maybe two
weeks ahead?
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yeah, I think there's there's obviously time times on the
field where those experiences come to fruition and you know,
we're like Dalton or the leaders will will step up
because we've seen this before. But sort of what I
touch on, you know, semi finals and finals on one
based off of motion and history shows that. So I
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think if if we're able just to keep tracking how
we have been, you know, we take a hard look today.
We nail our our preparations, you know, performances king for
us on game day and it's you can have all
the motivating factors and history can be on your side
or off your side. You know, it doesn't matter because
it's it's an eighty plus minute game and the best
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on the day as.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
The beauty of it. You know, it's not no form
or anything leading in so it's just who's the better
on that night.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That is Rico Yowani ahead of the Blues Brumbies Friday
Night Hurricanes against the Chiefs of course on Saturday afternoon final.
A couple of texts on this. I think it's up
to the club, says Steve, to create an environment that
attracts the players and fans back a big TV, cheap jugs,
bar nibbles, etc. Good on your Steve. It may while
swing the other way, says this one. People choose not
to go to the stadium and will choose to watch
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the game at the club rooms instead. This one is
from Andy Pineer. The club should maybe think long term
how many kids will be at the game that will
love it and get engaged from the afternoon game and
then become club players or members. We have to get
people back to the big games and clubs will enjoy
the flow on and the returns down the track. Thanks Andy,
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good point well mate, And to that text, tell them
when a Warror is preseason game and crouch which sells out,
then it's popular everywhere, not just in Auckland. Yes, you
make a very good point. It's just on twenty two
to eight.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
sports Talk call oh eight hundred. News Talk said.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Got to find his Power rankings coming before eight o'clock,
ranking the best, worst and in between stuff of the
weekend shorter feature somewhere near the bottom. I'd have to
say the black Caps. I was just thinking about that
humiliation of the hands of Afghanistan on Saturday and I
kind of feel as though the black Caps are in
Bob the builder mode. Can they fix it? And even
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if they can, will it be enough? The first point
of order, obviously is Thursday's game against the West Indies.
It's a must win, effectively a knockout game. Lose and
they're out of this tournament. In fact, even if they win,
it might not be enough because only two of the
five teams in each group go through to the next stage.
So even if New Zealand beat the West Indies, that
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might not be enough if the West Indies then turn
around and beat Afghanistan and the three countries ask the
week and His and Afghanistan all in up on the
same number of points, because then it comes down to
net run rate and US losing by so much to
Afghanistan certainly didn't help our net run rate. Anyway, we'll
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cross that bridge when we come to it. All New
Zealand can do is try and win.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
On Thursday.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
The bowling was okay on Saturday, wasn't it. The fielding
was really below par and the batting was terrible. Surely
it can't be that bad again. Selections got to bring
Ruch and Ravendra in. It seems obvious to me. Maybe
Jimmy Nisham as well. They're kind of all in on
a couple of selections. For Allen, they kind of have
to stick with him now at the top and hope
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that the high risk, high reward style pays dividends. And
they're kind of all in with Devin Conway as wicket
keeper as well, even though he clearly doesn't like it
and his thumb might still be giving him problems. For me,
it's rich and and for Mark Chapman. And then you've
got to be willing to float Rachian anywhere in the
top six. He's a left hander. Four of our top
six are right handers Alan Williamson, Phillips Mitchell. So if
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Conway gets out first, for example, then seen right in
and at three, just keep a left right combo. Be innovative.
It's just one small thing, I know, but all in all,
we just have to do everything better now. Thankfully, the
black Caps have shining ability to bounce back from poor
results in the past and do a lot better the
next game, and instance, instance, they're going to have to
otherwise this will be probably our worst World Cup ever.
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So can they fix it? I hope they can? I
hope they can. Can they fix it? Carlson? What do
you think?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Can the black Caps can? I mean, it's kind of
a sad way to go. Is this probably going to
be like the last couple of last World Cups for
these guys? You know, And one of the things I
was thinking about is they rejected a you know, a
warm up match. They could have gone and had a
warm up match to get ready, but they passed on it.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, they could have. You're right, they could have
and hindsight to a wonderful thing, but they should have. Carlton.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, you know, even Australia fork how they played the
minnow team. But it's not about who you're playing. It's
about getting their combinations ready your line. But it's never
got that chance.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Conditions as well, getting used to the conditions. You know,
I know that you know, you should be able to
play in a variety of conditions. But at least find
out a little bit about them instead of hitting them.
And I said this on the show yesterday, Carlton. The
first game, this game against Afghanistan was the most important
game in the group for New Zealand. Afghanistan are not
a minnow anymore. They're a decent cricket side. New Zealand
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had to beat them in order to give themselves the
best chance of progressing. Having lost to them now, and
lost to them quite heavily, it puts their tournament in
real peril.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Man and we're playing the rest of this in their
home country. Yea, you know it makes things even worse.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, like I say, Carlton, I've got faith that they
can fix it. I just hope that they will fix it.
First point of business, just got to beat the Windy's
on on Thursday in Trinidad. Thanks for your call making.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
A Paul Jace, How are your mate?
Speaker 8 (33:11):
Good?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Paul God, how are you mate?
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'm well, thank you and well done on the award,
thoroughly deserved. It's fantastic, Thank you. What I wanted to
say was at Eden Park on a donut. I got
invited and I was upstairs on level five watching the
Blues in the drawer, which which was a great game.
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It's wonderful atmosphere. But they had the Warriors on a
big screen because they started half an hour after that game,
but they they played it, and I just thought that
is brilliant.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
It's it's it's putting the it's putting the fan first, Paul,
because you know there are some people like you who
would be quite keend just to keep an on the Warriors.
They're at the rugby, but they want to keep an
on the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Yeah, with sports minded people and the other thing, Jase,
the only way we're going to get ourselves out of
this process was cricket. We have to bat first, and
if we don't then I am sorry that we're probably
going to be out because we have to put up
a big score to get that net. Yes, and if
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we don't bat first, we're gone.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, because it's hard to improve your your net run
rate if your bowl first, isn't it, because it basically
it requires you to basically bowl the other team out
and then get the runs about four overs. Yeah, it's
a lot easier to get out there in just one Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yeah, we bowl them out. Yeah, it's nothing.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Yeah, so when the toss I'm back all right, that's
a no. That's a good. That's a good. It's a
good first point of fall. I love it, mate, Always
good to chat you. Thanks for calling up, mate, Thanks
you beving me all right, see it one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. Yeah, if the paul's right, Yeah, your
bat first, I deal scenario right when the toss bat first,
get to forty, bowl them out for thirty. It probably
won't happen, but yeah, the the time for innovative thinking
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has arrived. Jimmy Neisham is a must, says this text. Yeah,
I'd have Nicheham in there as well. I'm just not
sure who i'd drop out for him.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I like the idea of Michael Bracewell in there. I
think he bowls well in white ball cricket, particularly T
twenty plus. He can smash it. Jimmy nisha I think
gives you that. He gives you those moments, doesn't he
He gives you moments where he really really stands up.
He's played so much T twenty cricket now, Jimmy Neishon,
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nothing fazes him, particularly with the bat. I have to
say sometimes he goes for a few of the ball,
but that can happen in T twenty. But yeah, he
just has an ability to come up with big moments,
you know, a seven ball twenty or something like that
when it's needed the most. So I'd probably have him
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in as well, but I just don't know who I
drop out. Thursday after that game is so that is
when the T twenty Cricket World Cup life of the
black Caps goes on the line in Trinidad. What are
we quarter to eight? Let's get another breakaway when we
come back, It's time for Piney's Power rankings for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Es Power Rankings.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
And Monday Night means Piney's Power Rankings as we rate
the beast, the worst and the in between bits of
the sporting weekend. Let's go ten the black Caps history
in as Gunnis Done beats New Zealand for the first
time in ten twenty international cricket all out for seventy five.
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The only way is up for the black Caps. Nine
nine is Andy McDonnell, producer of the show. He fell
so far behind in collecting audio of the black Caps
wickets because they were coming so thick and fast, he
had to basically make them up himself and hope nobody
would notice.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Two's gone. I haven't managed to cut up the highlight
with it. It's happened now, Piney. So we'll just pretend
like and there any bowls at to Fergus and he's
out there.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
We go, there's the there's a highlight. Well, it was
so authentic things Andy eight the England football team not
exactly what they were after in their final pre Euro's
friendly against Iceland's Well that.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'll do it.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
There's the final whistle.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Iceland at it again. Some booze for England their pre
Euro party balloon, well and truly popped by Iceland.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
The United States women's basketball team, or rather those who
picked the team, for the egregious decision to leave Caitland
Clark out of the squad. She stayed professional about it though.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Honestly no disappointment. I think it's just gives you something
to work for.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
You know, it's a dream. You know hopefully we down
can be there, and I think it's just a lot
more motivation. You remember that and you know hopefully in
four years and four years comes back around.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
You can be very diplomatic from Caitland Clark six six
around Friends Open Tennis Champions, a new breed of superstars
coming through in world tennis for the me and Carlos
del Karez leading the way.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
He has done this.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Carlos Alkara is the Roling Garros.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Champions, Sun Sense.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He makes more.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
History here, This Spaniard and eggs Fiontek and the women's
Chian taxonenta place in history. This is the champion. This
is the player of the women's game in our era five.
Scotty Cheffler winning again. He is getting pretty close to
tiger Woods levels now, isn't he? Who is fifth in
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eight Ros, Yes, five wins and eight tournaments a weekend
before the US Open as well. Good timing for Scotti Schefler.
Four four is Super Rugby's Final four the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
The Chiefs have running out the winners forty three points
to twety one.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
The Hurricanes final score on in Wellington, Hurricanes forty seven
rebels tweeting the Blues apprehensive thirty six five. They beat
the Feet and Drewer and the Brumbies.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
The Brumbies horn to the semifinals.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Two mouth watering Super Rugby semifinals to come in the
weekend Ahead free Shane van Gisberg and going back to
back in NASCAR Infinity in the United States. He is impressive,
thirty five years old from New Zealand. Back to back
victories for shamee Venguezbergen two to the Warriors, and in
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particular that outrageous piece of skill from dellan Way tennis
a lesniak. I think we're kach gar though I kicked
which sits over with tennis els. He dons it, he
bets it back in and me boots inn unbelievable from
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d w Z and three in a row now for
the Warriors. But that'd been knocked off top spot. Here
is number one. It is one of our absolute greats.
Sam white Lock. What a fitting way to end a
storied rugby career. I guess who scores it? It had
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to be Sam white Lock, his final act on a
rugby field, crushing.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Over in the corner by a wonderful, wonderful try to
round off a simply magnificent career.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Fairy tale end for Sam white Lock. Enjoy retirement, Sam,
one of the absolute greats. Those are Piney's power rankings
for tonight. Anging on Piney, did you put me behind England,
all right, losing to Iceland, you put me behind them.
I was working very hard to cut those highlights. Look
what I tried to do, really when I was putting
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the rankings together tonight, was was to kind of bracket
things together. So I kind of bracketed you with the
Black Caps. I didn't mean to tire you with their
brush by having you so low. Perhaps I need to
revisit it and get you closer to eighth.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
Assure you that I understand, I understand where we stand now. Finally,
I did think your commentary was tremendous.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
At least.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Those are Finet's Power rankings for tonight. We do it
around about this time every Monday evening, looking back at
the weekend of sport, a fresh bracket, a fresh batch
of power rankings, same time next Monday, just on six
and a half to eight, now four to eight. That's
pretty much US four Sports talks tonight. Just an update
(41:46):
for you from a course stadium where Monday Night NRL
is taking place and the Bulldogs have scored a try
with four and a half minutes to go to go
twenty points to eighteen ahead. Of Power Matter with a
kick to come, so it looks like the Bulldogs are
going to claim that win and with it a spot
in the top eight. An excellent finish to the NRL
weekend for Canterbury Bulldogs fans at Tirapraha Arena and Pottyder
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with the Central Polse fourteen to ten ahead of the
Mystics at quarter time in their AMZ Premiership match to
complete Round nine. That completes the show. Marcus Lush, the
award winning, multi award winning Marcus Lush, is on your
radio after eight o'clock to take you through the rest
of your Monday. Huge thanks to Annie McDonald for producing.
Thanks Mate'll see it but later on the week. Darcy
is back with Sports Talk tomorrow night and we are
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back on Weekend Sport on Saturday. From midday. We'll have
had a Super Rugby semi final the Blue Sprumbies and
we'll have another one to look forward to, the Hurricanes Chiefs.
We'll do other bits and pieces as well, including the
Warriors storm of course, a big preview of that and
anything else that jumps into our consciousness over the next
four or five days. You have an excellent week see
(42:50):
us Adney.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
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