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June 12, 2024 42 mins

D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting week in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include: 

Former Black Cap Craig McMillan on why the Black Caps' T20 World Cup Campaign is in such dire straits.

Talkback - Should Gary Stead drop as many of the players who lost to Afghanistan as possible or hope they come right for the West Indies?

 Kiwi driver Brendon Hartley ahead of 24 Hours of Le Mans.

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(01:47):
of cricket If you don't notice by nay not a sport, Fanne,
but New Zealand are in dire straits. Indeed they are.
Tomorrow from twelve thirty they take on the West End.
He's the home team of the TEA twenty World Cup.
They must win, and beyond that, they must thrust their
pants off Uganda and pop in New Guinea in order
to qualify the Super Eight. Will they can they? What

(02:12):
changes should be made? Do we react and kick out
or do we maintain a calm, a consistent in selection
and hope the boys that failed are so badly on
Saturday can pick up the debris and do something better.
I'm not entirely sure. Talk Craig McMillan form a black
Cap former black Caps coach, batting coach at least about that.

(02:35):
Surely then we'll take your calls on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. But let's not break our rhythm. How about
we try a bit of.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
This sport today.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
In sport today, as said, the black Caps are and
to reble. Not only are they picking up the debris
after Saturday's derailment versus Afghanistan. There training ahead of the
must win match against the West Indies has been hampered
by inclement weather and the nets weren't that the purpose
here that BeForever Yes, his coach Gary Steed.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
When we went back and tried them, they were pretty
slippery to stay end up on.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
And then also the balls were going through the top
of the surface, so we had a good fielding training instead.
That's all we could do. World golf number one Scottish
Shaffully got a rested during the last major it's the
PGA Championship. This time around the US Open. He's not
going to get rested. He's just enduring grief from his competitors.
But it's all good, he reckons. I don't love reliving it,

(03:29):
but sometimes being able to laugh about it is a
good skill too.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
It so when they make jokes, I mean, it's definitely
hard not to laugh, especially you know it's not my
good buddies there.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
They're pretty funny with it. It's been thirty two years
since New Zealand last had a four man kayak entry
at the Olympic Games. Today w toms Grant Clancy and
hamous Letter. Also Tokyo paddlers Max Brown and Curtis Henry
were named in the four berth boat for Paris. Max's
looking to the future.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
We'd love to race us at the Games and it
be something that grows for New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Particularly with the amazing walker scene that you have.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
There's some really good technical skills there that would transfer
to sea boat.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And to the side of that. Emory will also pair
up with the Leagarth and v K two. But wait,
there's more, andw Zealand will have a canoe entry as
well as the first time at the Games. That's the
whole one knee kneeling standing discipline, you.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Know, the one.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
And finally, Vern Cootta is waiting on an examination of
Akira Yanna before confirming his presence and they're twenty three
against the Brumbies. And Friday night's Super semi final against
the Brumbies.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
You know it's touching.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Like I say, the only way we can be sure
is if it gets yester tomorrow and we've got other
guys on standby, knowing that if I can't make it,
they'll they'll take over. And that's sport today, Craig McMillan
on the program. Now as we take a look at
the ups and downs of the black Caps at the
T twenty World Cup. At the moment, Craig, it's only

(05:02):
been downs. Tomorrow a chance to lift and buy. They
have to lift now, don't they and welcome.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Hello dars here they do. They certainly need to find
a performance. So it was disappointing in that first game
against Afghanistan. I think most people would say that that
was always a danger game, the fact that Afghanistan are
perhaps a better side than what most people appreciate, and
certainly in those conditions they were favorable to the way
that their attack shaped up.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
So there was.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
Surprise that I guess the margin of victory between the
two sides and the performance of New Zealand, but Afghanistan
are a dangerous side in T twenty cricket they showed
that in that first game. But New Zealand, well they
need to regroup rather quickly and bounce back against the
West Indies who obviously on one of the host sides,
so that won't be an easy game either.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
A lot of people talking about the absolute lack of preparation,
the lack of warm up games. The New Zealand camp
were adamant that that was not an issue. These players
needed that rest and they were good with open worket practice.
I'm not entirely sure if that was proven to be
the correct method. They all looked short of a trot,
didn't they, Craig. I mean, you know, the difference between
the open work and practice and actually having a warm

(06:13):
up game, is it that defined?

Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, there is a difference. But these are guys who
have played a lot of cricket over recent times. And
saying that, though you look at the top three, you
look at Fan Allen, Devin Conway and Kane Williamson, who
three players that haven't played a lot of cricket in
probably the last three or four months. Allen and Conway
because of injury and Kane just because.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
He wasn't needed in the IPL so much.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
So that's probably not ideal when you've got your top
three batterers who you need to fire in a T
twenty World Cup who haven't played a lot of cricket
and aren't firing. So I think you know in hindsight,
and I know that there was different challenges for the
management group in terms of getting players there at different
times because of the IPL and a number of other things.
So it wasn't as easy as just saying yes, we'll

(06:58):
play those warm up matches because they just didn't match up.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
So in an ideal world, I think yes.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
In a preparation for a Teach twenty World Cup, you
would love to play a couple of warm up games.
I think Australia played one with nine players and a
couple of their support stuff, a couple of their coaches
playing as well.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
So they just they looked a bit rusty, didn't they have?
We've been honest.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
They looked a little bit rusty, a little bit out
of kilter a few of the plas. But they need
to shake that off quickly because this tournament comes fast
and thick, so they have to bounce back with not
only a win against the Western East, but I think
a very good win. So that they can put a
bit of a dent back into that net run rate.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's talk about the overlap of the IPL and the
T twenty World Cup. Do you look to the ICC
are probably more dominantly the BCCI and go hold on,
you've got to schedule these things better. This is not
ideal and this is one of our premiere events that
does it great, look Craig or not?

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well, the OPL was the premiere T twenty competition in
the world Darcy, so that has a standard set window
every year, so there's no changing that. And you think
about a number of the other countries have had more
players than what New Zealand had involved at the IPO
as well, so it to fects those other teams as well.
So it's just one of those things that the ever

(08:15):
evolving and changing world of international cricket you just have
to deal with and teams do that differently. But New
Zealand were just off their game in all departments. The
fielding and the bowling wasn't too bad to be fair,
but they probably Afghanistan, if we had been critical, probably
scored twenty runs more than what New Zealand would have
been happy with a couple of catches went down.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
The fielding has been so important.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
There's probably been one area that's been a little bit
disappointing from a New Zealand point of view over the
last twelve months. Last summer, I remember a number of
catches going down at vital, vital points in certain matches.
I remember a couple against Australia that were crucial. So
that's an area that they're going to have to sharpen
up on rather quickly.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
But they've got the potential.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
They've got the players that can bounce back and beat
the Western News, I have no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
But they're going to have to bring their a game.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
The whole catching situation. You're right about that. What's happened,
and it had been bizarre because New Zealand for such
a long time we're just the pre eminent fielding team
in world cricket. Is this just a case of hours
spent catching? How do you actually remedy that problem.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
It's a good question because I know that the time
that the New Zealand team will be putting into fielding,
so they won't be taking any shortcuts with it.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Sometimes as players, you just have bad nights.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
You should just put down catches that you would catch
nine times out of ten. Sometimes that happens. I'm sure
the intensity is still high at training. I think fielding wise,
you have to keep the intensity high at training.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
That's the crucial part. Train hard, play easy.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
Is sort of a bit of a cliche that I
used to use with the Black Caps at times when
I was part of the setup, and part of that
sort of fielding unit is that you work hard, you
do it for a.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Short time, but you get the intensity high.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
So I'm sure that they've put the work in over
the last couple of days. Occasionally does there's no rhyme
or reason. Sometimes players just drop catches and they don't
mean to. It's the worst feeling in the world when
you do drop a catch, so no one does it
on purpose.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Sometimes it just happens.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Gill, the Americans watching it on, You guys should really
be wearing a glove, then you'd never do this.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
How easy would it be with the glove on?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Haha? Wouldn't be quite as entertaining, I'd say on that
coming back from a big defeat Craig McMillan, their headspace
required the ability to chop back in and in essence
leave that behind because you can't carry that through ken
you you've got to have that block on presuming you
do anyway.

Speaker 6 (10:33):
Yeah, no, I totally agree. You have to flush it
down the toilet. You have to review it dus and
you have to say, these are the areas that we
were in Grayton, Why was that right? We need improvement
and this is how we're going to do it. But
you also have to when you're playing a game two
or three days later, you have to have the ability
to shut it off and ProView and move on to
the next game. Otherwise, if you hold onto that baggage,
then it will affect the performance in the next game.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
So that's really important.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
That's one of the great things about T twenty cricket
because there's always another game coming up. There's always another
performance just around the corner. So Fingers crossed the New
Zealand gi it together. That was the one bad game
of the tournament. They know that they can still qualify
for the Super eights that still in their still in
their hands. They're going to win three from three and
if they can beat the Western these then they'll go

(11:18):
a long way to qualifying.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, just by hammering Papua New Guinea and Uganda into
the ground and they'll get their net run rate up.
First thing though tomorrow versus the Western The changes in
the team, we know how stable. I suppose you say
the lineup is under Gary Stead, would you be inclined
to I suppose everyone played poorly. He can't drop all
of them, can you? But what kind of changes did

(11:40):
you make and what does that do to the team
when suddenly you've lost a few players because everyone had
an average performance.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
Yeah, well, quite often you want to give those players
the chance to redeem themselves when you've had a poor
performance like that. So I don't think you know came
Williamson and Gary Stead are probably on the conservative side
you were saying terms of selection, But the consistency has
been one of New Zealand's strengths in terms of their
selection over a period of time, where they give players
the opportunity to perform at the highest level.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
So I don't think there'll be a knee jute reaction.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
I wouldn't be surprised if maybe there was a couple
of changes in terms of selection each Sodi is one
the league spinner that they'll probably look at. He's had
success against the West Indies. I can think they're on
a number of occasions, so he could well come into
the equation. I was a little bit surprised that Jimmy
Nisham wasn't used that batting rounda.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
He doesn't do a lot of bowling, but.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
He has the ability to play as a third seema
and also add some batting power, So he's sort of
certainly one that they'll look at, I think, But like
I said, by and large, I think they're pretty consistent
with their selections Cain and Gary, so I don't think
there'll be a knee jute reaction to that first up loss.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And there's always drums beating for retend Revenger, and we
understand why because he's a very gifted, very talented player.
That must be tempting to throw a young guy in
the furnace and see what happens, because he's had quite
a good record at World Cups, isn't he not on
the short version he has?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, that certainly is tempting, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I'm trying to work to me, if you were going
to play raction revenge of your playm at the top
of the order. He's obviously had experience at the top
in the fifty over format and I would throw him
at the top probably to open for a finale and
if you were going to make that decision. And he
also has the ability on the pictures that are playing
on Guyana in the Western Indies and the Caribbean where
the ball was turning as well to buy left arm's spin,

(13:23):
which is also helpful. So I guess there'll be a
number of conversations between the selectors on tour and that's
a good thing. There's a lot of depth in that
New Zealand squad so if they do want to make
some changes, certainly doesn't weaken the side if they make
those changes. So that's something they will have to work
out the right balance of the side for that game
against the Western Neies.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Forget the refs call.

Speaker 7 (13:43):
You make a call on.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Sports Talk on your home of Sports News Talks.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And Craig mcmerlyn, thank you very much for your time
as a ghost. Craig's actually on a plane tomorrow morning.
He's off with the White Ferns, a turr of England
handful of T twenties One Day Internationals ahead of their
T twenty World couple wins. Teaching World Cup in Bangladesh.
I want to say, coming up like October. So good

(14:13):
of them to join us before he clons on that
long haul flight. Interesting thoughts there from Craig mcbellan, right
ware to start, there was a hard watch. That was
a difficult watch, I suppose, or someone up with this
consistency or chaos. This is the choice now that Gary

(14:36):
Stead and Cain Williamson have. I think we all know
which way they're going to go. Craig said, they urr
to the conservative. That's an understatement. I think you're about
straight down the line as they get. But in this situation,
and I know there's a lot of talk about being
underdone and they didn't have the warm ups and it

(14:58):
wasn't right for them because the BCCI and the ICC
didn't quite gel it and we didn't have enough time
and they said no to it. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Excuse excuses, this cut to the chase. It's trim it
right down. That's a very good team of cricketers and
they played terribly. They were awful and it wasn't one guy,

(15:18):
it was the whole team. It was awful. I don't
think that's lack of match practice. I don't think I
does it smack of arrogance. Will be fine. Someone will
roll these guys into Afghanistan. You think they should know
by now that that's not the case. Phinn Allen scored

(15:41):
no runs, Conway scored eight, and it looked like he
was keeping with baseball gloves. Maybe he was over on
in the States came Williamson played one of the most
average shots. I think any of us have ever seen
him play to get out. Mitchell was there for what
and over? Ben Phillips covered himself in glory with eighteen

(16:03):
or eighteen. It's as good as it got four four,
twelve two three seventy five runs against Afghanistan. Bowling wasn't
the worst. I think Craig said that, So yeah, I
get that. Maybe some change there. Darryl Mitchell took a wiping,

(16:24):
didn't he? One of us over as he took a
heat waked off him. I'm of the mind that it's
a whip cracking time, it's an axe wielding time. It's
a time for Gary Stead to go. I'm really unhappy
with what you guys did. This is probably not the
way he rolls. Very calm, measured man. This one I'm
not a coach, but we've got some very good players

(16:47):
sitting in the wings, and we're going to give them
a chance to smash their way into this team. For
the last few games. We're not going to give you
guys a chance to right your wrongs. Technically, I should
sack six of you, but I haven't got enough replacements,
so I won't. I'm bringing in rats and revenge. I'm
bringing in James Nishin, I'm bringing in each sody. I

(17:12):
am changing the way this has worked because I'm really unhappy.
What does that do? Does that destroy the confidence of
the team of the guys that are left, or does
it set fireworks off underneath their backsides. I'd like to

(17:32):
think it's the firework option, and these guys are like, Okay,
I've actually got a realistic chance now of climbing into
a team to thrash you again down papun New Guinea
and go on to greater things. Because some players let
us down, many of them should be dropped. They can't
drop them all, But I say, get in there and
gas three or four of them. What do you reckon?

(17:56):
Is it time maybe to start getting a bit brutal
with this side? Just to remind them who they're representing
and what they do. Oh eight hundred and eighty eight wholesale,
mister Conway, have a seat, Williamson, you can't sack because

(18:17):
he's the captain. It makes things very finale. And have
a seat, Mark Chapman, have a seat. Maybe even Michael
Brace will have a seat. At a stretch, Darrel Mitchell,
maybe have a seat. What do you do? Do you
choose consistency and hope these guys can dig their way
into this huge hole? Or do you choose chaos? Oh

(18:37):
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consistency or chaos. We know what they're going to do.
Stephen Williamson are very well sorry steady, aren't they? And

(19:28):
they will just take that course. It's simple, very straight,
very effective, but will it be effective this time around?
New Zealand are standing on a precipice. This could be
their worst result in a world tournament. And I don't
know how long I'm choosing chaos sling some of these

(19:49):
guys like, I'm sorry, we can't accept that Devon Conway,
magnificent player, has he been any good and short version
cricket of recent times? He might have plucked a couple
of scores out. I know, we know he hasn't thought
Finn Allen had turned to turn the turn the tie
when when he got sacked and he went back to
playing local domestic cricket. But it looks he lost his

(20:11):
mind as well right at the very start. What do
you do? Chaos go chaos? Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. I've got some of your text as well,
but I'd rather listen to your voice. Hi, Conrad, what
have you got for us?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (20:23):
I actually blamed three parties for the car accident. Wo. Yeah,
So we'll start with the ICC, right, Okay, So we've
got three twenty t twenty World Cups within four years,
so twenty twenty one in Dubai. Yeah, and you've got
twenty twenty two in Melbourne. Yeah, well, IZI, and then

(20:44):
you've got now so gee, what an epic tournament. Three
World Cups every four years. Okay, I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, we've got to work in the fact it was
a global pandemic which did cause quite a mess, and
some people conveniently choose to forget that. So and we
can cut them a weaver at slate, right, Conrad.

Speaker 8 (21:02):
Well, well, possibly, but you've also got to take into
account that there's three warms and they've also introduced the
you know, the Championship for Test cricket, so the amount
of pinnocal situations for representing your country has kind of
got pretty convoluted.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
Okay, So anyway, point two is Zealand Cricket needs to
take some responsibility for this because as an organization they
should have had a warm up game. I mean, you're
playing the Caribbean. You've got to get used to conditions, surely.
So that's that's the second point.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Just before we go on, Comrade was saying that they
tried to organize but it didn't work. My suggestions you
didn't try hard enough. You're an international cricket team playing
over in the West Indies, try harder. I find it
stunning that they couldn't get that done. They must have.
Look the Australians played a warmer game with nine people
and a couple of their coaches do something.

Speaker 8 (21:56):
Well, yes, that's right. They could have actually gone to
the West Indies individually. Possible. I don't know how they
tried it, but yeah, and anyway, just the third point
on the play. Yeah, it's just in their minds, the
ever extending their country. Yeah, I just wonder. I know
it's a big cool but you know, the IPL and
all the franchise cricket around the world, is that in
pringing on their patriotism.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
I'll leave it that and Conrad, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'll put it down on the corner and I'll stare
at it for a while and other people might want
to reflect on those opinions. Conrad, thanks for your time.
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty some a good point.
It's too many World Cups, too many pinnacle events of
the one sport, even though it has split across three
different formats. Trul have had a warm up. Hey listened

(22:44):
to Jacob Warren Georgie. The other day I go, no,
we'll be fine, it's all good, Dne. But the next
day it was like, what end is the bat gonna
hold it up?

Speaker 9 (22:52):
No?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
No, the rubber end, that's the one, not the big
wide end. As far as the players not being dedicated
enough to the Jersey, I struggle to swallow that because
I think they're all proud of their country. I think

(23:13):
they're all really proud of having a decent income after
they leave the job too, and that does create issues.
So then you go to the wider situation, do we
need a T twenty World Cup? I mean, if you
even need it? Is it? Is it required? Anyway? Ten

(23:34):
eighty lines are open high Andrew? How are you?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Good?

Speaker 9 (23:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
The answer a question T twenty World Cup is where
the money is. The games evolved into that, and we
need to evolve into that game. And yeah, look I'm
probably endore and make at the Woods and saying well,
you know, actually it's a different.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Type of game.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
And you know, hey, look, whether we like it or not,
the bigger and you know, the bigger entities throughout India,
and you know, I wouldn't even say the UK love it,
and that's where they're getting the money from. So it's
a game of money, right, and.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
They're not doing themselves any favors. The reason you get
packed for sides like the IPL for example, is if
you're outstanding in your own national jumping, you can perform
at that leven. If you can't, they're not interested in you.
So they're not doing themselves any favors of all the
way before. I just find it hard Andrew to look
at Alan Conway, Williamson, Mental Phillips. These are all big players.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
What happened?

Speaker 7 (24:43):
No, No, it's about marketing. That's what they want to
get the big players in their marketing up and make
the money at it. It's all about marketing. It's all
about money, right. But when we go to these games
twenty which you know I somewhat agree with you, we

(25:03):
need to be prepared and what does it take to
you know, get it in the circle, it's just.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
So strange missing that that connect.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Well, maybe it's because they were away playing for Franchise Cricket,
which really was just a slap in a gig when
they didn't care, and they came with this scattered opinion.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Of what to do.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Is that the coaching staff. I didn't want to get
to get them on the same page. Understand why you're
hearing what you're doing. Cricket is a fragile game. It
can be a harsh task bluster. But Afghanistan that good

(25:48):
that only two of our players hit double figures two.
Sorry not so punishment, crime and punishment. Get in there,
Gary Stead and slap them about a bit. Make some changes.
Text lines open. It's nineteen ninetew ZBZB phone lines as well.

(26:08):
I'd love to talk to you. Oh, one hundred eighty
ten eighty three phone number nationwide. Twenty five minutes to
eight race cars still to come. Brendan Hartley, four times
World Endurance Champion, three times Lamarre winner. He joins us
to preview that crazy twenty four hour race in France
coming up this weekend as the Newstalk's there B seven

(26:34):
thirty eight Sports Talk one hundred eighty ten eighty quick
a few texts before he hit the phone lines, Calm
the farm, that's twenty twenty crap one game heroes, the
needs give it that bad, I get bat that bad.
Come on, you're obviously not a fan. Drop Conway and

(26:56):
Allen to wicket keep rushing in nisum in for Chapman,
Sodi in for Bracewell, Thank you very much. And we
put af Ghanzastane in on a pitch that was known
maybe to be suspect. Another dumb decision. Thank you for
your text. We should have picked Cole Monroe. Like Rugby seven's,
it's a very different gay game and he's a genuine

(27:19):
specialist performer. Glibly ye, it's something about in his own
cricket and him that doesn't match. Actually him on the
show six months or so ago, very good company, interesting
talker and Darcy having ex black Cats providing critical analysis
as a waste of time that's still in the club. Well,
I'm not sure about that. I really like what Kraigman
has to say, and I think more often than not
he can be quite cutting on what's going on in there,

(27:40):
and he makes some really good points. But thanks for
you buying anyway.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Hi Joe, Yeah, you get Darcy. Look, Verman's got to play,
no two ways about it. You know, it doesn't matter
whether he scores, whether he goes up for five two
one or he scores sixty. You've got to play him
and any other side Darcy in the world and any
other top side in the world, whether it's India, whether

(28:06):
it's it's Australia, he would be playing. He would be
one of the first picks. And I just can't believe
that we haven't put him in, you know, And he
needs to play tomorrow. And it's still or die to
be honest, you know. And and also too docy when
when we win the toss, we bat it's so hard
to check. It doesn't matter if we score one hundred

(28:28):
and twenty, you've still got to chase down one hundred
and twenty. You know, these guys, you know, if they
don't pick him tomorrow, well that tells me that the
coach is on his way out there. He won't get
another won't he won't go on another tour instead, won't
go on another to it and they were absolutely shocking. Look,
I've said it before, Darcy, and I'll say it again.
When they play well, and it's like any sport or

(28:50):
anyone you know, when they're playing well, we all praise them.
When they played bad and that was terrible on Saturday,
they deserve to get to be righted up, without a doubt,
because that wasn't you know, two guys scored over over ten.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
No, it was good at eighteen and a twelve. Matt
Henry was one of them. It's stunning. There's something wrong
around that process that they're not that good out there.
I mean they're a pretty handy team, but did you
see that shot that came Williamson played?

Speaker 4 (29:20):
What was that?

Speaker 9 (29:23):
We'll also Darkie, I agree with what you said before.
You know, it seemed as though that they they were arrogant.
They were going, oh, well, you know it's only Afghanistan.
Don't get me wrong. Afghanistan could go all the way.
They're not a bad cricketing side and they just got
improved of whipping us. You know. The attitude was like

(29:44):
from where I could gather, was like, oh okay, we lost,
you know, we're That's not what New Zealand. New Zealand was.
You know, the New Zella cricket side has been before,
you know, I mean our fielding was terrible. It's been
terrible from the last year. We dropped catches that that
I could take.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
That's been Yeah, that's been hideous. That's if we talked
to craignant Man about that early on. I said, sometimes
have bad days, but New Zealand used to have good
days in the field all the time. Joe, thanks very
much for your input. Look, from what I know of
this team and the guys, I know I'm saying close
personal friends with any of them, but I spend quite
a lot of time on the phone talking to them

(30:22):
on air interviews, off ere setting interviews up. I don't know.
Arrogance doesn't sit comfortably with me. From what I know
of these guys that don't strike me as arrogant people.
Something wasn't right and like our last Callerchen's a player

(30:44):
in the future. Get him in there, cut his teeth now,
got nothing to lose, right, Hey, Burs, how are you.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (30:52):
Hi? Goodheads?

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Actually good?

Speaker 9 (30:53):
Good?

Speaker 2 (30:54):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (30:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
So I've got a couple of points which I wanted
to make, especially around New Zealand and also for a Kistan.
I think one thing we've got to realize is we
don't have a systemic issh you for the team. So
what I mean by systemic issue is a consistently poorly
performing team. You've got one match where we've been hard
done and there were various reasons. Like you know, quite

(31:19):
a few callers are already highlighted that the IPL got
in the way you didn't have a warm up game,
et cetera, et cetera. But you've got to understand that
you don't have a team which is performing in this
way consistently, like really poor performance. So that's my first point.
My second point is you can't consider Ghanistan as minos.

(31:42):
It is if you look at the World Cup match,
the fifty or World Cup match. I don't know whether
you recollect the Australia Offghanistan match. Australia were reeling at
like forty nine or fifty or something for seven and
then Maxwell Clevean scored that two hundred run. You know,
that was a match winning innings, once in a lifetime innings.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
It was a crazy I remember watching it. Something else
really was. No, I don't think they're treating them there.
Afghanistan complete cricket of that, there was no doubt.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Absolutely, So you can't consider them as miners, especially when
it comes to whenne okay, yes you can probably you
handle you know some other teams who haven't played a
lot international cricket, maybe you know, perhaps yes, but not
of Ghunstan. So I suppose instead of having a knee
joken reaction straight away, maybe just you know, make a
couple of subtle changes, probably get rushing in there or.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't know. And I've had a chance to sit
and calm my farm, like someone points it out, but
I still more more go this is this is not
and thanks very much for your call. We've got to
Brittan Harley coming out around the corner that all the players, yeah,
it's it's a rarity, but the way they fell, something's

(32:56):
gonna happen. And you know, on this than this team,
I'm allowed to be a bit on the pissy side.
It's part of my job coming up nixt race cars,
Oh my happy place. Brinding Hartley joins Bragg and this
is News Talks EB. It is quarter to eight. It's
that time of the year again where motorsport fans well,

(33:18):
they stay awake for twenty four hours, especially if you're
a driver. The twenty four hour of lamar up and
running before you know it. And we're joined by a
man who's picked up the trophy. What are we doing now?
Three times Brendon Hartley, four times World Endurance champion as well,
you've got a handle on the savine, haven't you.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Yeah, morning mate, how are you? I I've got a
handle of Yeah, a lot of experience. Now I've worked
out the other day. I've been doing it since twenty
twelve and I only missed one year. So yeah, a
few a few La Mole's under my belt. Been luck
enough to send on the top step three times. But
it's if anyone's for anyone who's following.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Those that already.

Speaker 5 (33:54):
But yeah, the competition this year is incredibly tough. So
we've got twenty three or twenty four cars in the
top category, sixty two cars on the whole grid, but
so many cars in the top category is incredible.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
A lot more, a lot more manufacturers turned up.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
This year, with Baborghini, BMW in, a Ferrari, Persia, Porsche
US and the Twilda. I've probably missed a few there
as well, did I say Porsche? I think I probably did.
They've wanted a few times as well. So it's going
to be incredibly tough to win this year. But you're
hoping my experience and my team's experiences is going to
give us the edge we spoke.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Of this last year, Brandon, And it's good for the
sport that suddenly all of these marks have climbed back
and again it does make it more of a challenge.
Are you reveling in this? Do you think there's something
that you like even though you're down the standings somewhat?
Is this good for you and your team?

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Look, I'm loving it.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
We won the World Championship again last year, but we
missed out on Lamore, which I think if you could
reverse those roles, and I if I look back at
last year and I say, if we could have won
the More but we didn't win the World Championship, I
think I would have taken the More. So this year
is not going so smoothly, particularly on our car. I
think we're fifth or sixth in the championship at the moment.
We haven't had the best start of the season, but

(35:05):
it's double points for Lamore, and as I just said,
it's you know, a lot of the priority goes on
onto it.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I'm I wouldn't say, I'm you.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Know, everyone says, what's your expectation, Well, you know, there's
no expectation, But I would say we have some confidence
that we had the test day on Sunday, which which
went smooth.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
I did the third fastest.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
Time of the day and our and our twitter g
zero ten two porchs in front of us. A porche
looks very quick too, so does the Cadillac, which is
a manufacturer. I forgot to mention just before with Elbamba,
one of a fellow countrymen driving the car and the Ferrari,
I think, look, there's good, there's gonna It's gonna be
hard to know who's got the fastest car. But Lamar's
such a long race, so many things can happen, and

(35:42):
as I said before, I think that the experience from
our team we've been here the most well. I think
our team is the longest standing, you know, in this
category without fail, so a lot of continuity with drivers
as well, So I'm hoping that's going to give us
some form of edge. But you never know what can
happen in this race. But I do believe we'll be
able to hopefully fight for some steps on the podium

(36:03):
and if if luck and goes away, and also everyone
does their job correctly, we might go to this down
on that top step.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Brendan Hartley joining us at a Twitter Gazoo racing ahead
of the twenty four hour of Lamont coming up this week. Ken,
you talked about the amount of entry. Surely this increases
the complexity of the twenty four hours team fold. The
amount of different cars, different classes, different drivers, all out there,
all over the track, they just add to the can

(36:32):
I call it excitement, Brendan, I mean.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
It's massively exciting. I think there's a team photo today
with all the cars on the grid. I mean it's yeah.
I mean, I've got my hair standing up just talking
about it. It's going to be it's going to be
an electric atmosphere when we line up on the grid
on Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
I don't think it changes out.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
I'm just thinking about the approach of the race probably
doesn't change a lot. Since I've been doing Lamar, it's
been a twenty four hour sprint, so someone say, like,
we are pushing these cars to the limits for twenty
four hours. There's always a bit of risk management and traffic.
So I think if the com petition heats up kind
of halfway through the race at the end, I think
we'll start seeing a lot of people take a lot

(37:11):
more risk than we're used to in traffic. So hopefully
there's no big accidents. And also I think track position
becomes way more important. You know, in the past, you
would just focused on your own race, you wouldn't worry
about the others and just try and maximize that twenty
four hours. But I think now with such close competition, you'll,
I think strategy will be a bit different. We'll always
be trying to figure out how we can get in
front of the competition with strategy, pit stops, maybe a

(37:34):
risky dive up the inside. So look, it's going to
be exciting for everyone. And I don't know if exciting
is the right word for driving. Sitting behind the car,
we've got a lot of stress and fresher but you try,
and you try and remind yourself how privilege you are
and enjoy the little moments as well. I'll be taking
on qualifying, which is probably the highest stress point of
the weekend. From my perspective, putting low fuel and new

(37:56):
tires and going from all out attack on quality lap.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
It sounds like the most fun for a race as surely.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's not always fun actually, but yeah, it's hard to describe.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
The feeling very dynamic. The way the drivers actually work,
and you were just touching on that before. Who drives
when and where what the order is in is going
to be more so during the race itself, the ability
to chop drivers in and out, or is it more
set in stone like it has been previously.

Speaker 5 (38:29):
I think we'll have a we'll have a game plan.
You know, sometimes that can change. But I think again,
I think our approach won't be that different from from
the past. And yeah, we normally have a pretty good plan,
but we have to stay flexible as well.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
As far as the car itself and the expanse of
the category. What's actually changed mechanically in this car? What
are we looking at the difference between last year.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
And this year.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Very little has changed. I mean the alligation of rules
haven't changed. So we'll have you know, we've had a
few updates, actually not really not really anything you would
see visually. We've got a different paint scheme, looks a
bit like a Batman bill nounce. It's black rather than white.
And then you know, we're refining all our tools every race,
every year, so a lot of electronics on the car.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
How that these full drive hybrids work set up as well?

Speaker 5 (39:20):
You know, you learn, you're always constantly learning how you
can optimize the set up and get the most out
of the package.

Speaker 9 (39:24):
You have.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
So various more details from outside some of the other
cars have have some bigger updates and we have completely
new cars on the grid as well.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
So Britain Harley joins a program looking ahead to the
twenty four hours of Lamon on that hypered car level
that he is in. I don't know what name they're
going to use next, Brendan bigg as believers as it is.
Surely you have advantage though, in the fact that your
team's manufactured these cars before. You know, I suppose the
vagaries or all the suppleties of the nuances of this
class over twenty four hours. How much does that count for?

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, I think the experience from Tita is important. It
didn't work out for us at Lamore last year. We
were seconds, but as you say, you know, to Ita
has been here. I think since twenty twelve they've been
back at the more at the highest category. They are
the only manufacturer that stayed that entire time, and there's
a lot of people in the team that have stayed
so that that continuity and it makes up for a lot.
You know, you generally don't unlearn things, so the other

(40:18):
teams have been catching up. I think we had a
clear advantage in some areas last year where the other
teams have been been clawing that back. But we're trying
to keep improving as well, like like I just said
before and car set up or demising systems drivers. We're
getting older, but hopefully not slower more wise. So yeah,
hopefully we haven't lost all of that advantage that we

(40:38):
did have last year.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Big jump from six hour races up to the twenty
four but still not even just on halfway through the season.
You've still got high hopes of challenging up the top
over top of these pesky newcomers.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
Brandon, Yeah, I think we've got a good chance to test.
That showed that we were fighting at the pointy end.
I think we'll know a bit more after qualifying tomorrow
where the real pace of everyone is. But I'm quite
quitely confident we're going to be at least fighting at
the front.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Wicked can't wait to I won't sit through the whole
twenty four hours because I simply can't. I just haven't
capacity to do that. But chopping in and out and
let's hope we get a sensational finish with you guys
right at the front. Of course, three times in the
morning win or four times world Insurance Champion Brendan Hartley,
thanks so much for your time. Get in there and
cause a ruckus.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
My friend chairs Mate Talks, So.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
The right call is your call on oh eight hundred
and eighty to eighty Sports Talk call on your home
of Sports News Talk Zibby.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Maybe not a ruckus. Maybe that's the wrong thing to
do in a race like that. Twenty four hours starts
at two o'clock on Sunday morning, New Zealand Time, finishes
at two o'clock Monday morning, New Zealand Time. The interest
in this is, yes, you've got a whole lot of
hyper cars that are extraordinarily fast with very talented drivers,

(42:01):
but you've got a whole of the gentlemen races in
there as well, and the cars aren't as fast, and
you've got to deal with what they get up to
their highjinks on the track. That's over a twenty four
hour period, through rain through sun through sunset through sunrise.
It is absolute chaoe. I'm amazed it's legal quite frankly.

(42:23):
Twenty four hour among Brendan Hartley, I guessed three times champion,
looking forward to more and it's Middleicitch. Thanks for producing
the program. My name is Darcy Waldegrave goodbye.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
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