June 13, 2024 • 8 mins
Blackcaps Assistant Coach Luke Ronchi joined D'Arcy Waldegrave to discuss New Zealand's back to back losses at the T20 World Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks' be Blue Gronky.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You assistant coach Old the Bike camps had joins us now, Luke,
I don't want to say devastated, but I expect the
feeling around the camp is exactly that after being basically
drop kicked out of the World Cup so early doors.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, yeah, you're not, You're not far off.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It'll be very very quiet change room. And obviously you
never come to a World Cup wanting to be in
this position, and you come out and you want to
play the best if you can.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You want to win games of cricket.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And and unfortunately we just haven't been able to I guess,
get those results or get those little sort of processes
in place to make sure we're giving it our best
to get across the lines. It's been Yeah, it's just
I guess everyone's just disappointed with the results here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's been a lot made of the lack of preparation,
the lack of warm up games ahead of the tournament,
suggesting the team did look half cooked, they did look underdone.
Jacob Breman recently saying no, it's going to be fine,
it's not an issue open work at practice has gone
well retrospectively. Would you look at that and say we
really needed a run early on?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, those are always the questions are going to be
asked anyway whenever these sort of things come up. But
the guys have had a heap of prep love, they
played a lot of credit. Guys have played a lot
of cricket over here. So again, like we trust that
these guys understand how they want to try and play
the credit, how they're going to try to adapt to surfaces,
and unfortunately our adapting it just hasn't been up to par.
(01:40):
That's the disappointing thing. I think that's something we pride
ourselves on and we have done for a long long
time and we haven't quite been able to I guess
grasp how we want to put on these sorts of services.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But also feeling going into this game against the West
Indies after being beaten by Afghanistan, the talk around the
camp ahead of what you needed to apply to get
the best result. What was the general flow of there?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's been our general chats.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's always about what we need to do as a
team and making sure sure with bat with ball in
the field. It's al those I guess, our values and
behaviors is going into it, making.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Sure that everyone's out there and knowing that the person
next to.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Them is doing the same thing, and a lot of
the things that comes down how your attitude goes and
what you want to do. And again those conversations, we
know that's a power of this team. Let's keep talking
about the team. How can I give to the team.
How can I make sure that I'm doing the job
that's required of me at any given stage, and back
eating every person to be in those same positions. So
(02:36):
the guys are very very good at that, and we've
got to keep doing that, keep believing that. And I
guess obviously when you have the results we have had
in these two games, it's even more of.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A thing to go back on. Okay, right, this is
how this team, This is.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
What we want to do, how we want to play
our cricket and what's going to make us be a
strong team and play some strong cricket.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And we need to keep those things.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was a great start to today, got off really well.
In fact, it was looking extraordinary, really bright up until
the nineteenth and twentieth over you look at that, and
you wonder about came Williamson and the maths being done
because suddenly ended up with Darrel mitchelly one terrible over
(03:19):
last time bowling one of the key overs.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
This is that concerning to you, luck, No, not at all,
because we were trying to get the two those We
literally needed two more wickets and you use your strike
bowlers to get those wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So that's one of the things you obviously you roll
at dice a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So right off, we can get these these big wickets
at the air using locky fogs and trump bolt tim
sally that we don't need to worry about those those
last couple of overs. So that's part of cricket. That's
how you work out different bits and pieces.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So that was just a part of the game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And the unfortunate things we couldn't get those wickets right
at the very end and Chaffane Ratherford managed to make
the most of those last two overs.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So at halftime and the shed, knowing you had to
chase down one hundred and fifty odd to secure victory,
still boint around that after what you'd seen out there
and the way the pitch was playing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, we've got back our guys. No matter what we're
in here, we know that these guys have played.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Cricket all over the world and they they had a
bat on surfaces and that's that there's were back at
guys one hundred percent. So they got there and we
can play some. I guess it's usually with a batsmanship
and understanding that that cricket here is that the surfaces
are dictator, that you're not going to go out and
blaze away and it's like batting through your twenty overs
and picking up your bigger overs at different stages. So unfortunately,
(04:34):
again we just couldn't get it. We couldn't do those
big overs. We had a fairly good start with us
that like Finn was looking really good. Unfortunately he got
out when he did and and from there, I guess
it's just we couldn't sort of, I guess arrest the
the momentum that the West Indies had grabbed and there
are a few little periods where we look like we're
going quite nice and again part of the game that
(04:59):
unfortunately we're on the wrong side of.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
From the from the betting point of view, do you
feel that the West Indies contributed to the loss of
the wickets, or maybe in some of the cases the
decisions made by the bats weren't the wisest. If you
see where I'm going here, how much was it the
West Indies bowling well and the black Caps not batting
too well?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I think it was just the mixture of every I
think we sort of saw worth the way they.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Came out in the bat earlier and they were coming quite.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Hot and losing some wickets, and then we realized, like, okay,
so fine rail and made sure he was in at
the endy batter smartly and getting the boarder to the
sweepers and running hard. So that was like right, So
we needed this ourselves, and the guys understood that, because
that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You have to adapt to what's in front of you.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So then all of a sudden the Finza they were
going all right, But then again we just we couldn't
make those big overs when we needed to to keep
us up with.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That run round.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And when you lose wickets as well, it makes it
that little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
How do you pick yourselves up?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Luke Ronkey got a couple of games against minnotes that
there's an absolute outside chance you could still go through,
but it's very, very very outside. So the added che
and I suppose to playing eleven. You take into these
two meno games that hard to pick up.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
For do you think, well, you're still playing cricket for
your country, so that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You still gotta understand it's an honor and.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A privilege to be able to play cricket for your country,
so that you keep believing that, keep remembering that there's
so many other people who always wanted to play cricket
for New Zealand have opportunity, and we're in a position
here where we are still doing that. When they keep
doing that and we go here and make every I
guess post a winner, we go we just got to
play hard, trigger play some good cricket, play some smart crecket,
(06:42):
and keep representing this country with pride.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Roles changing much. Do you think you'll get the players
that haven't played having a crack in there? You maybe
play around a week with the order or how you
apply some of these players.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
We've only just finished this game, so those conversations will
come later. But again it's like we're here at a
World Cup, so you don't want to I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Not a yeah, I don't think so. I don't like the.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Thought of doing those sort of bits and pieces because again,
you're playing cricket for your country and that should be
enough pride and stuff to make sure that we're going
out and doing what we need to do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Do you dread these postmatches after wins or after being
I suppose Drop kicked out of a tournament, because this
is pretty rare. This doesn't happen much. This is almost
an anomaly of the black Caps of recent times. So
when they said, look mate, go and face the media,
what were you thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
No, But it's a part of it. It's what we
have to deal with because again, when you have good
results and everyone wants to be when you have the
bad ones, you've got to do it as well. So
it's a part of it. You've got to I guess,
be honest and how you want to sort of praise
and review and things and talk about it, because again,
if we're not, then we're actually sort of living in
some other world. So we need to be honest with
how we're doing it and get out there and face
(07:57):
it when we need to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to news Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks' be Blue Gronky.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You assistant coach Old the Bike camps had joins us now, Luke,
I don't want to say devastated, but I expect the
feeling around the camp is exactly that after being basically
drop kicked out of the World Cup so early doors.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, yeah, you're not, You're not far off.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It'll be very very quiet change room. And obviously you
never come to a World Cup wanting to be in
this position, and you come out and you want to
play the best if you can.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You want to win games of cricket.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
And and unfortunately we just haven't been able to I guess,
get those results or get those little sort of processes
in place to make sure we're giving it our best
to get across the lines. It's been Yeah, it's just
I guess everyone's just disappointed with the results here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
There's been a lot made of the lack of preparation,
the lack of warm up games ahead of the tournament,
suggesting the team did look half cooked, they did look underdone.
Jacob Breman recently saying no, it's going to be fine,
it's not an issue open work at practice has gone
well retrospectively. Would you look at that and say we
really needed a run early on?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah, those are always the questions are going to be
asked anyway whenever these sort of things come up. But
the guys have had a heap of prep love, they
played a lot of credit. Guys have played a lot
of cricket over here. So again, like we trust that
these guys understand how they want to try and play
the credit, how they're going to try to adapt to surfaces,
and unfortunately our adapting it just hasn't been up to par.
(01:40):
That's the disappointing thing. I think that's something we pride
ourselves on and we have done for a long long
time and we haven't quite been able to I guess
grasp how we want to put on these sorts of services.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
But also feeling going into this game against the West
Indies after being beaten by Afghanistan, the talk around the
camp ahead of what you needed to apply to get
the best result. What was the general flow of there?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
It's been our general chats.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
It's always about what we need to do as a
team and making sure sure with bat with ball in
the field. It's al those I guess, our values and
behaviors is going into it, making.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Sure that everyone's out there and knowing that the person
next to.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Them is doing the same thing, and a lot of
the things that comes down how your attitude goes and
what you want to do. And again those conversations, we
know that's a power of this team. Let's keep talking
about the team. How can I give to the team.
How can I make sure that I'm doing the job
that's required of me at any given stage, and back
eating every person to be in those same positions. So
(02:36):
the guys are very very good at that, and we've
got to keep doing that, keep believing that. And I
guess obviously when you have the results we have had
in these two games, it's even more of.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
A thing to go back on. Okay, right, this is
how this team, This is.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
What we want to do, how we want to play
our cricket and what's going to make us be a
strong team and play some strong cricket.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
And we need to keep those things.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It was a great start to today, got off really well.
In fact, it was looking extraordinary, really bright up until
the nineteenth and twentieth over you look at that, and
you wonder about came Williamson and the maths being done
because suddenly ended up with Darrel mitchelly one terrible over
(03:19):
last time bowling one of the key overs.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
This is that concerning to you, luck, No, not at all,
because we were trying to get the two those We
literally needed two more wickets and you use your strike
bowlers to get those wickets.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So that's one of the things you obviously you roll
at dice a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
So right off, we can get these these big wickets
at the air using locky fogs and trump bolt tim
sally that we don't need to worry about those those
last couple of overs. So that's part of cricket. That's
how you work out different bits and pieces.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So that was just a part of the game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
And the unfortunate things we couldn't get those wickets right
at the very end and Chaffane Ratherford managed to make
the most of those last two overs.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So at halftime and the shed, knowing you had to
chase down one hundred and fifty odd to secure victory,
still boint around that after what you'd seen out there
and the way the pitch was playing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, we've got back our guys. No matter what we're
in here, we know that these guys have played.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Cricket all over the world and they they had a
bat on surfaces and that's that there's were back at
guys one hundred percent. So they got there and we
can play some. I guess it's usually with a batsmanship
and understanding that that cricket here is that the surfaces
are dictator, that you're not going to go out and
blaze away and it's like batting through your twenty overs
and picking up your bigger overs at different stages. So unfortunately,
(04:34):
again we just couldn't get it. We couldn't do those
big overs. We had a fairly good start with us
that like Finn was looking really good. Unfortunately he got
out when he did and and from there, I guess
it's just we couldn't sort of, I guess arrest the
the momentum that the West Indies had grabbed and there
are a few little periods where we look like we're
going quite nice and again part of the game that
(04:59):
unfortunately we're on the wrong side of.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
From the from the betting point of view, do you
feel that the West Indies contributed to the loss of
the wickets, or maybe in some of the cases the
decisions made by the bats weren't the wisest. If you
see where I'm going here, how much was it the
West Indies bowling well and the black Caps not batting
too well?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I think it was just the mixture of every I
think we sort of saw worth the way they.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Came out in the bat earlier and they were coming quite.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Hot and losing some wickets, and then we realized, like, okay,
so fine rail and made sure he was in at
the endy batter smartly and getting the boarder to the
sweepers and running hard. So that was like right, So
we needed this ourselves, and the guys understood that, because
that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
You have to adapt to what's in front of you.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
So then all of a sudden the Finza they were
going all right, But then again we just we couldn't
make those big overs when we needed to to keep
us up with.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
That run round.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
And when you lose wickets as well, it makes it
that little bit harder.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
How do you pick yourselves up?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Now?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Luke Ronkey got a couple of games against minnotes that
there's an absolute outside chance you could still go through,
but it's very, very very outside. So the added che
and I suppose to playing eleven. You take into these
two meno games that hard to pick up.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
For do you think, well, you're still playing cricket for
your country, so that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
You still gotta understand it's an honor and.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
A privilege to be able to play cricket for your country,
so that you keep believing that, keep remembering that there's
so many other people who always wanted to play cricket
for New Zealand have opportunity, and we're in a position
here where we are still doing that. When they keep
doing that and we go here and make every I
guess post a winner, we go we just got to
play hard, trigger play some good cricket, play some smart crecket,
(06:42):
and keep representing this country with pride.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Roles changing much. Do you think you'll get the players
that haven't played having a crack in there? You maybe
play around a week with the order or how you
apply some of these players.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
We've only just finished this game, so those conversations will
come later. But again it's like we're here at a
World Cup, so you don't want to I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Not a yeah, I don't think so. I don't like the.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Thought of doing those sort of bits and pieces because again,
you're playing cricket for your country and that should be
enough pride and stuff to make sure that we're going
out and doing what we need to do.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Do you dread these postmatches after wins or after being
I suppose Drop kicked out of a tournament, because this
is pretty rare. This doesn't happen much. This is almost
an anomaly of the black Caps of recent times. So
when they said, look mate, go and face the media,
what were you thinking.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
No, But it's a part of it. It's what we
have to deal with because again, when you have good
results and everyone wants to be when you have the
bad ones, you've got to do it as well. So
it's a part of it. You've got to I guess,
be honest and how you want to sort of praise
and review and things and talk about it, because again,
if we're not, then we're actually sort of living in
some other world. So we need to be honest with
how we're doing it and get out there and face
(07:57):
it when we need to.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to news Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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