Scott Robertson has named his first ever All Blacks squad for his first ever test match as coach.
And it's a big one - the first test match against England since 2022.
All Black centurion and Sky Sport commentator Mils Muliaina spoke to D'Arcy Waldegrave on Sportstalk about what he makes of the lineup Razor's gone with.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk Z'B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We'll are now on sports Talk by four hundred. Test
cap All Black, my Lily Mulliana. I know that's a
little over the top, Mills, but let's face it, a
century for a back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You got some history in this game.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Also obviously on the breakdown and commentating for Sky comes
Saturday night up against the English.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
As you play full enough bro oh man, let's.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
See what it's a pretty excited plate now that the
teams have finally being named. Well, when I say finally,
the All Blacks given Thursday and the English come out
on Tuesday. But there's so much intrigue about this whole
first up game. Obviously Razor and his sort of coaching staff,
what sort of they're going to bring to the table
in terms of, I suppose your game plan and how
(00:55):
they're going to play the game. But also the English
had brought down a very very good team and some
youth in there as well, and perhaps a lot of
us don't know much about too, so looking forward to
this one, Dues, then.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is the biggest point of interest is the position that
you made your own all those years ago, sorry just recently,
all those years ago, not calling it old Merlesman. There
you go, hey, fallback. Stephen Peifeta has been given the nod.
He's starting at Fallback.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
How big is this? Did you see this one coming? No?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Not not really. I mean, but when you actually look
at it and you dissect without even really listening to
sort of the reasons why you tend to forget because
everyone goes I want to thought they might have put
you know, Damien back there voting at ten or vice
versa the other way around. But when you actually look
at Steven Pedalfetter's game management and what he actually done
and does in a positional plays, he's very sound up
(01:49):
in the air. He's he's he's confident in the he
directs his wingers really well, and he's actually deceptively pretty quick.
So in some ways, perhaps everyone you know, all the
talkers around Damien and Boden, but you've actually got someone
like a pedal Fetter who's been you know, he's played it.
He's he's sort of under under all those aspects that
I've sort of spoken about, and now he gets a
(02:11):
really good opportunity to go out there. And I think
a lot of that too, will have will be the
fact that England are going to kick a heck of
a lot and his positional play for me, his outstanding.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
He's really benefited has any which is sad from the
injury of Sullivan because he's spent so much time at
Fallback for that championship lose team.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, he's had his injuries him South, he was out
for a very long time and they probably you know,
I would have thought at the beginning of the year
they would have had him as down as as the
attended director been out for for a while and to
get him back into play whilst Harry Plummel was going
so well. It's an easy sort of transition, you know,
start him in at fall Back and he's sort of
(02:50):
which he's he's a confident sort of play can play
Seen and fall Back comprehensively. But you've seen in the
last sort of as he's sort of come back, he's
slowly just starting to get get in some really quality
form again his positional play. I think what you don't
need to see when he you know, when you're at
when you're watching on TV, is the stuff off the ball.
And then as I said, positionally he anticipates the ball
(03:10):
really well in terms of when they're exitting out of
their own twenty two and I think that's going to
be a biggie. I think being able to catch the
ball on the fall, particularly as a team that you
know you are expected to kick a lot, and then
to counter attack off that, which is very he is
very good at alongside his other two wingers. I think
that could be a really positive well, it is a
positive sort of selection.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We HARKing back now to Hoskin stitutu why he didn't
get named in that squad.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is something that raises pretty hot on.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's great when you're looking at guys on the ball
and when he says off the ball, you know defensively
and I mean you're talking at about a position that
guys have to hit hard, right, And the last thing
when you get to tests much fully is that you
don't ride players. And perhaps it's kind of what he's
sort of alluding to. We know how good Hoskins is
with ball in hand, but we've got a lot of
(03:59):
players that are good good in it with ball in
hand as well. So you know, when you look at
the percentages and for your sort of look at sort
of you know, the percentage into a takele percent in
the accuracy in that you know, he's probably down in
the all in terms of the guys that have you know,
I think the guy that's closest to is Tommy Pennify
now over the Super ab season and ninety percent everyone
(04:19):
else is above ninety two that's been selected for the
All Blacks. So when you're looking at sort of stuff
like that the coaches often do, that comes down to
those that have been good boat on both sides of
the ball, and when you're going up against a pack,
and particularly the Northern Hemisphere teams there very very big.
That's obviously what you know. Raisor Robinson's alluding to the
fact that, hey, it's in our DNA. We love hit
(04:42):
getting the ball in hand, you know, regardless of we're
your number one or number eight or even wide. But
if you can't hit and hit well and stop these big,
big guys coming forward, all it does is has a
flow and effect in terms of putting pressure on your
team and the next guy having to assist, and then
another guy and another guy, and that's a really big thing.
At the moment you know, you've got to be you know,
and that's it's all. That's it's a news phrase. You've
(05:03):
got to be good on both sides of the ball.
And thankfully enough for me, I was only going on
one side of the ball, mate, and I don't have
to do too many tackles, so I got selected.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let's take a look at Semi Penafin and the position
he holds. They look at it was going to be
not a coin toss, but the decision was going to
go one way or t'other with a couple of players
in that pozzy, Why did Summerpenie get the nod?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I think, if if you look at it, it's perhaps
the height you know, Semi Penny give gives us another
I suppose to line out option in terms of his height.
We know how good he is on when he hits
the players on defense, but staying in that system is
going to be a big one. So I think it's
possibly that all carries in close quarters, you know, off
the ten or you know off the nine, he gets
(05:49):
his body position you know, low, and he's quite tough
at getting getting that, particularly inside the twenty two. So
I think you know, when you've got two relatively big
locks and Barrett and also to be to he just
gives us a little bit of each, possibly a bit
of speed and something for the English to consider it
line out of time, because that's going to be a
big thing. I mean, the English are going to come here.
(06:10):
You know. Traditionally they've been very good at their lineout
drives the set piece, you know, they they've selected a
very experienced, you know team up front, particularly when it
comes to scrum time. So getting that variation just something
for the English sort of think about and sometimes when
it is your ballert line out and it might just
give you that little bit of an edge.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
DJ Petty and old school making it back for what
will be his eighty first Test match. This is a
wonderful story of redemption. Pairing up with Damien McKenzie. I'm
not sure everyone picked that either, figuring maybe he'd come
up as the clean up job off the bench and
possibly Finley Christie would start. That is not the case.
What does that say to you about the way Scott
(06:51):
Robertson wants to play this game?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think experience really isn't it. So that's a lot
of test matches in it and you're right, what a
wonderful story. I mean, you've got to also remember Royga
got an opportunity off the back end of t J
pet and being being injured you know, when he was
at the Hurricanes as well, and it's almost gone the
other way in the way he's got his body back,
particularly in the later stages of his career, has been outstanding.
(07:14):
But you know, I think the experience, particularly in your
first Test match as a coach, he probably wants to
make sure that's sort of short up in some ways.
Not that I'm saying that for let Christy doesn't provide
that either, but I think just that little bit of
a bit of an edge around there, and also probably
to counter what's on the other side. And in terms
(07:36):
of you know, you're Marcus Smiths and also Mitchell So
and he's a competitor. I think he's he's he'll go
out there and you'll try and niggle those guys. You know.
Look that I mentioned particularly Smith and Smith in particular
to try and get him off his game. So it's
great to see TJ. Beck. It's it's awesome that we
have got that bit of experience and I like this team.
(07:58):
I really do. And I think, you know, he's a
couple of positions here that you.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Would have thought out.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You're not quite sure where what he's going to go to.
The big one for me is how are we going
to play? And I look go back to my point
about our DNA loving to spread the ball, but the
last few years heak of a long resource sort of
making sure our set pieces right almost detrimental to the
style we play. So I'm hoping we sort of revert
back to a little bit of a bit more balance
(08:24):
towards the expensive game, but we also truly know that
we've got to make sure we get front football and
clean seat piece.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talk Z'B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We'll are now on sports Talk by four hundred. Test
cap All Black, my Lily Mulliana. I know that's a
little over the top, Mills, but let's face it, a
century for a back.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You got some history in this game.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Also obviously on the breakdown and commentating for Sky comes
Saturday night up against the English.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
As you play full enough bro oh man, let's.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
See what it's a pretty excited plate now that the
teams have finally being named. Well, when I say finally,
the All Blacks given Thursday and the English come out
on Tuesday. But there's so much intrigue about this whole
first up game. Obviously Razor and his sort of coaching staff,
what sort of they're going to bring to the table
in terms of, I suppose your game plan and how
(00:55):
they're going to play the game. But also the English
had brought down a very very good team and some
youth in there as well, and perhaps a lot of
us don't know much about too, so looking forward to
this one, Dues, then.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Is the biggest point of interest is the position that
you made your own all those years ago, sorry just recently,
all those years ago, not calling it old Merlesman. There
you go, hey, fallback. Stephen Peifeta has been given the nod.
He's starting at Fallback.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
How big is this? Did you see this one coming? No?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Not not really. I mean, but when you actually look
at it and you dissect without even really listening to
sort of the reasons why you tend to forget because
everyone goes I want to thought they might have put
you know, Damien back there voting at ten or vice
versa the other way around. But when you actually look
at Steven Pedalfetter's game management and what he actually done
and does in a positional plays, he's very sound up
(01:49):
in the air. He's he's he's confident in the he
directs his wingers really well, and he's actually deceptively pretty quick.
So in some ways, perhaps everyone you know, all the
talkers around Damien and Boden, but you've actually got someone
like a pedal Fetter who's been you know, he's played it.
He's he's sort of under under all those aspects that
I've sort of spoken about, and now he gets a
(02:11):
really good opportunity to go out there. And I think
a lot of that too, will have will be the
fact that England are going to kick a heck of
a lot and his positional play for me, his outstanding.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
He's really benefited has any which is sad from the
injury of Sullivan because he's spent so much time at
Fallback for that championship lose team.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, he's had his injuries him South, he was out
for a very long time and they probably you know,
I would have thought at the beginning of the year
they would have had him as down as as the
attended director been out for for a while and to
get him back into play whilst Harry Plummel was going
so well. It's an easy sort of transition, you know,
start him in at fall Back and he's sort of
(02:50):
which he's he's a confident sort of play can play
Seen and fall Back comprehensively. But you've seen in the
last sort of as he's sort of come back, he's
slowly just starting to get get in some really quality
form again his positional play. I think what you don't
need to see when he you know, when you're at
when you're watching on TV, is the stuff off the ball.
And then as I said, positionally he anticipates the ball
(03:10):
really well in terms of when they're exitting out of
their own twenty two and I think that's going to
be a biggie. I think being able to catch the
ball on the fall, particularly as a team that you
know you are expected to kick a lot, and then
to counter attack off that, which is very he is
very good at alongside his other two wingers. I think
that could be a really positive well, it is a
positive sort of selection.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
We HARKing back now to Hoskin stitutu why he didn't
get named in that squad.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
This is something that raises pretty hot on.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's great when you're looking at guys on the ball
and when he says off the ball, you know defensively
and I mean you're talking at about a position that
guys have to hit hard, right, And the last thing
when you get to tests much fully is that you
don't ride players. And perhaps it's kind of what he's
sort of alluding to. We know how good Hoskins is
with ball in hand, but we've got a lot of
(03:59):
players that are good good in it with ball in
hand as well. So you know, when you look at
the percentages and for your sort of look at sort
of you know, the percentage into a takele percent in
the accuracy in that you know, he's probably down in
the all in terms of the guys that have you know,
I think the guy that's closest to is Tommy Pennify
now over the Super ab season and ninety percent everyone
(04:19):
else is above ninety two that's been selected for the
All Blacks. So when you're looking at sort of stuff
like that the coaches often do, that comes down to
those that have been good boat on both sides of
the ball, and when you're going up against a pack,
and particularly the Northern Hemisphere teams there very very big.
That's obviously what you know. Raisor Robinson's alluding to the
fact that, hey, it's in our DNA. We love hit
(04:42):
getting the ball in hand, you know, regardless of we're
your number one or number eight or even wide. But
if you can't hit and hit well and stop these big,
big guys coming forward, all it does is has a
flow and effect in terms of putting pressure on your
team and the next guy having to assist, and then
another guy and another guy, and that's a really big thing.
At the moment you know, you've got to be you know,
and that's it's all. That's it's a news phrase. You've
(05:03):
got to be good on both sides of the ball.
And thankfully enough for me, I was only going on
one side of the ball, mate, and I don't have
to do too many tackles, so I got selected.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Let's take a look at Semi Penafin and the position
he holds. They look at it was going to be
not a coin toss, but the decision was going to
go one way or t'other with a couple of players
in that pozzy, Why did Summerpenie get the nod?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I think, if if you look at it, it's perhaps
the height you know, Semi Penny give gives us another
I suppose to line out option in terms of his height.
We know how good he is on when he hits
the players on defense, but staying in that system is
going to be a big one. So I think it's
possibly that all carries in close quarters, you know, off
the ten or you know off the nine, he gets
(05:49):
his body position you know, low, and he's quite tough
at getting getting that, particularly inside the twenty two. So
I think you know, when you've got two relatively big
locks and Barrett and also to be to he just
gives us a little bit of each, possibly a bit
of speed and something for the English to consider it
line out of time, because that's going to be a
big thing. I mean, the English are going to come here.
(06:10):
You know. Traditionally they've been very good at their lineout
drives the set piece, you know, they they've selected a
very experienced, you know team up front, particularly when it
comes to scrum time. So getting that variation just something
for the English sort of think about and sometimes when
it is your ballert line out and it might just
give you that little bit of an edge.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
DJ Petty and old school making it back for what
will be his eighty first Test match. This is a
wonderful story of redemption. Pairing up with Damien McKenzie. I'm
not sure everyone picked that either, figuring maybe he'd come
up as the clean up job off the bench and
possibly Finley Christie would start. That is not the case.
What does that say to you about the way Scott
(06:51):
Robertson wants to play this game?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I think experience really isn't it. So that's a lot
of test matches in it and you're right, what a
wonderful story. I mean, you've got to also remember Royga
got an opportunity off the back end of t J
pet and being being injured you know, when he was
at the Hurricanes as well, and it's almost gone the
other way in the way he's got his body back,
particularly in the later stages of his career, has been outstanding.
(07:14):
But you know, I think the experience, particularly in your
first Test match as a coach, he probably wants to
make sure that's sort of short up in some ways.
Not that I'm saying that for let Christy doesn't provide
that either, but I think just that little bit of
a bit of an edge around there, and also probably
to counter what's on the other side. And in terms
(07:36):
of you know, you're Marcus Smiths and also Mitchell So
and he's a competitor. I think he's he's he'll go
out there and you'll try and niggle those guys. You know.
Look that I mentioned particularly Smith and Smith in particular
to try and get him off his game. So it's
great to see TJ. Beck. It's it's awesome that we
have got that bit of experience and I like this team.
(07:58):
I really do. And I think, you know, he's a
couple of positions here that you.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Would have thought out.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
You're not quite sure where what he's going to go to.
The big one for me is how are we going
to play? And I look go back to my point
about our DNA loving to spread the ball, but the
last few years heak of a long resource sort of
making sure our set pieces right almost detrimental to the
style we play. So I'm hoping we sort of revert
back to a little bit of a bit more balance
(08:24):
towards the expensive game, but we also truly know that
we've got to make sure we get front football and
clean seat piece.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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