July 4, 2024 • 43 mins
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Former All Black Mils Muliaina on the squad-naming for the first England test.
All Blacks talkback.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good evening, Welcome to sports Talk. It's a Thursday night,
July four b twenty twenty four, bearing down on seven
minutes up seven. My name's Darcy Waldergrave. Thanks for listening,
Thanks for sticking around for the next hour. Thanks for
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texting nine two nine two ZBZB at the cost.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Of standard techs.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Charge more rugby in a touch of basketball is what
we're looking at this evening. Of course it's going to
be rugby. It's first test of the season. Massive, massive
evening in Dneda. So many people on the edge of
their seats looking to see what Scott Robertson can do
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and as jbu as the All Black coach, and today
he did something else for the first time. He named
his first All Black Siders first twenty three to take
on the marauding English who have arrived in town and
named their team last year. That fine, Okay, they ain't
it Tuesday, but they plenty of time. That team has
come out. We're going to take your calls on that team.
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A couple of facets of that team, surprise selections and
what does the selection say to you about the way
this team is going to approach this Test match, not
the rest of the season, nothing else, just Test batch
number one one other time won each test go the
next one. We spoke of this last night. I got
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accused on text of not being an All Black fan
because I had the Tameritisa suggest that maybe Razor would
lose his first game. Well, of course I did. I
was interested to see what the reaction would be and
I still am if that happened. So we'll be talking
about that with Molly Mulliana. Centurion one hundred tests for
the All Blacks in fallback, and I've got to be honest,
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it's my favorite All Black back in the day. There's
something about the guy's poise, the guy's ability to slow time.
I very much enjoyed defensively amazing, fantastic under the high ball.
And now he's a commentator, he's a comments man, he's
a pundit, and he joins us shortly to talk about
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this All Black side that will take your calls on
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Toward the end of
the program, Dylan Boucher joins us from Greece. The t
All Blacks. They don't shook up the basketball world. Last
night overnight they beat Croatia. They are in a qualifying
tournament for the Olympic Games. It is tough. It just
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gets tougher over night tonight. We'll talk about that with
former Tall Black, former breaker and basketball n Z CEO mister.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Dillon at Boucher.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what we're doing. Are you in of course, you
in right.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Lets support today as I have touched on Asa. Ray
Robinson has named the first all Black team of his tenure,
and he's had a call from Sir Graham Henry.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Who had a similar seed to the new coach.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
So Ted actually text me last night and said all
the best crew started twenty years ago down here in
the same place. So there was an ice little touch
for him's and he had a head of a credit there.
So just probably that legacy part.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Water the dirt flowers last for you. Ray White.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Ferns skipper Sophie Divine has stoutly defended her team's suboptimal
performance in England so far it's a development to her.
She hinted at results on all that important. She hinted it.
She sh really, you look back twelve months and see
the growth and it's massive.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
But people look at the results and say, oh, we
lost three mil.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But to us it is really important that we could
keep a bigger picture around this and around this group. Yeah.
I love Sophie Devine like a sister, but to me,
growth is results, isn't it. That's all we can judge
sport on and we haven't really had any. That's called
five games to go of t twenties, then a break
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break and then a couple of games against the Australians
and then the World Cup starts early October. The black
Cats must be loving this distraction. Ryan, Now you go on,
you go on, you knock us all out like us.
It would appear that even some of the football Ferns
have little or no idea about the cause of the
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standdown fog that's shrouding their former coach Yetka Klimkober, McKenzie Barry.
It's a shining example.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, it was quite sudden, and I haven't been filled
in on all the details, but at the end of
the day, we're just here to prepare for the Olympics
and the Olympics is an amazing event and it's horrible
to take traction away from that onto something that has
nothing to do with most of us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No sea, no here, no speak. Three primates to the
four and Ryan Fox has more than unpacked his game
every week on.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Tour, got the three and a half year old and
one year old, and I think we did twenty weeks
living out of a suitcase with them with no base.
So while it was great to have them on tour,
it certainly didn't feel like, you know, I had much
of a break. Ended up playing a lot, so it's
been tough in that sense, but started to feel like
I found my feet a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We should find them at the bottom of your suitco Sorry,
that was terrible. I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes I did, and.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
That's sport today.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We're now on Sports Talk by four hundred test cap
all Black May Mulliana. I know that's a little over
the top, Mills, but let's face it, a century for
a back. You got some history in this game. Also
obviously on the breakdown and commentating for Sky comes Saturday
night up against the English? Is your play full enough? Bro?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh man?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let's tell you what.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's a pretty excited plate now that the teams have
finally been named. Well, when I say finally, the All
Blacks given Thursday and the English come out on Tuesday.
But it's so much intrigue about this whole first up game.
Obviously Raiser and his sort of coaching staff, what sort
of they're going to bring to the table in terms of,
I suppose your game plan and how they're going to
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play the game. But also the English had brought down
a very very good team and some youth in there
as well, and perhaps a lot of us don't know
much about too, so looking forward to this one does and.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I suppose the biggest point of interest is the position
that you made Jerone all those years ago, sorry just recently,
all those years ago, not calling it old Merlesby. There
you go, hey, fallback. Stephen Peifeta has been given the nod.
He's starting at fallback. How big is this? Did you
see this one coming? No?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Not not really, I mean, but when you actually look
at it and you dissect without even really listening to
sort of the reasons why you tend to forget because
everyone goes. I thought they might have put you know,
Damien back the voting at ten or vice versa the
other way around. But when you actually look at Steven
Peedlefetter's game management and what he actually done and does
in a positional plays, he's very sound up in the air,
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he's he's he's confident in the he directs his wingers
really well, and he's actually deceptively pretty quick. So in
some ways, perhaps everyone you know, all the talkers around
Damien and Bowden, but you've actually got someone like a
pedal Fetter who's been you know, he's played a test,
he's he's slid under under all those aspects that I've
sort of spoken about, and now it gets a really
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good opportunity to go out there. And I think a
lot of that too, will have will be the fact
that England are going to kick a hick of a
lot and his position will play for me is outstanding.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's really benefited, has any which is sad from the
injury of his arn Sullivan because he spent so much
time at fallback for that championship Blues team.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, he's had his injuries himself. He was out for
a very long time and they probably you know, I
would have thought at the beginning of the year they
would have had him as downs as the attended director
been out for for a while and to get him
back into play whilst Harry Plummel was going so well.
It's an easy sort of transition. You know, start him
in at fall back. You know he's sort of which
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he's he's a confident sort of a player can play
seeing him and fall back comprehensively. But you've seen in
the last sort of as he's sort of come back,
he's slowly just starting to get in some really quality
form again his positional play. I think what you don't
need to see when he you know when you're at
when you're watching it on TVs and stuff off the
ball and then as I said, positionally he anticipates the
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ball really well in terms of when they're exitting out
of there their own twenty two and I think that's
going to be a biggie. I think being able to
catch the ball on the fall, particularly as a team
that you know are expected to kick a lot, and
then to counter attack off that, which is very he
is very good at. Alongside his other two wingers, I
think there could be a really positive well, it is
a positive sort of selection.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Both sides of the ball were HARKing back now to
Hoskin stitutu why he didn't get named in that squad.
This is something that raises pretty hot on.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It's great when you're looking at guys on the ball
and when he says off the ball, you know, defensively
and I mean you're talking at about a position that
guys have to hit hard, right, And the last thing
when you get to testaments fully is that you don't
ride players. And perhaps it's kind of what he's sort
of alluding to. We know how good Hoskins is with
ball in hand, but we've got a lot of players
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that are good good in it with ball in hand
as well. So you know, when you look at the
percentages and for your sort of look at sort of
you know, the percentage into tackle, percent in the accuracy
in that, you know he's probably down in the all
in terms of the guys that have you know, I
think the guy that's closest to is Tommy Pennifey now
over the Super ab season and ninety percent everyone else
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is above ninety two that's been selected for the All Blacks.
So when you're looking at sort of stuff like that
the coaches often do, it comes down to those that
have been you know, good boat on both sides of
the ball, and when you're going up against a pack
and particularly the Northern Hemisphere teams there very very big.
That's obviously what you know. Raiser Robinson's alluding to the
fact that, hey, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
In our DNA.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
We love hitting on the ball in hand, you know,
regardless of we're your number one or number eight or
even wide. But if you can't hit and hit well
and stop these big, big guys coming forward, all it
does is it's a flow and effect in terms of
putting pressure on your team and the next guy having
it to assist, and then another guy and another guy,
and that's a really big thing at the moment. You know,
you've got to be you know, and that's it's all.
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That's it's a news phrase. You've got to be good
on both sides of the ball. And thankfully enough for me,
I was only got on one side of the ball, mate,
and I don't have to do too many tackles, so
I got selected.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Let's take a look at Semi Pinafina and the position
he holds. They look at it was going to be
not a coin task, but the decision was going to
go one way or the other with a couple of
players in that pozzy. Why did Summerpenie get the nod?
Do you think? Well?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think if if you look at it, it's perhaps
the height. You know, somebody Penny give gives us another another.
I suppose line out option in terms of his height.
We know how good he is on when you when
you hit the players on defense, but staying in that
system is going to be a big one. So I
think it's possibly that all carries in close quarters, you know,
off off the ten or you know, after nine, he
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gets his body position you know, low, and he's quite
tough at getting getting that, particularly inside the twenty two.
So I think, you know, when you've got two relatively
big locks and Barrett and also to belo to, he
just gives us a little bit of each, possibly a
bit of speed and and something for the English to
consider it lineout time, because it's going to be a
big thing. I mean the English are going to come here.
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You know, traditionally they've been very good at their lineout
drives the seat piece. You know, they they've selected a
very experienced, you know team up front, particularly when it
comes to scrum time. So getting that variation just something
for the English sort of think about and sometimes when
you're when it is your ball at lineout and it
might just give you that little bit of an edge.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
J old school. Making it back for what will be
his eighty first Test match, this is a wonderful story
of redemption. Pairing up with Damien McKenzie. I'm not sure
everyone picked that either, figuring maybe he'd come up as
the cleanup job off the bench and possibly Finley Christie
would start. That is not the case. What does that
say to you about the way Scott Robertson wants to
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play this game.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I think experience really isn't it. So that's a lot
of Test matches in it, and you're right, what a
wonderful story. I mean, you've got to also remember Royga
got an opportunity off the back end of t J
Pitt and being being injured you know when he was
at the Hurricanes as well, and it's almost gone the
other way. In the way he's got his body back,
particularly in the later stages of his career, has been outstanding.
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But you know, I think the experience, particularly in your
first Test match as a coach, he probably wants to
make sure that's sort of short up in some ways.
Not that I'm saying that Finlet Christy doesn't provide that either,
but I think just that little bit of a bit
of an edge around there, and also probably to counter
what's on the other side. And in terms of you know,
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you're Marcus Smiths and also Mitchell So and he's a competitor.
I think he's he's he'll go out there and you'll
try and niggle those guys.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Look that I mentioned particularly Smith and Smith in particular
to try and get him off his game. So it's
great to see TJ back. It's it's awesome that we
have got that bit of experience. And I like this team,
I really do. And I think, you know, there's a
couple of positions here that you would have thought far out.
You're not quite sure where what he's going to go to.
The big one for me is how are we going
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to play? And I go back to my point about
our DNA loving to spread the wall. But you know
the last few years, you know, hek of along resource
sort of making sure our set pieces right, almost detrimental
to the style we play. So I'm hoping we sort
of revert back to a little bit of a bit
more balance towards the expensive game. But we also truly
know that we've got to make sure we get front
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foot and clean seat piece.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
The right call is your call on eight hundred eighty
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Speaker 2 (14:17):
Seven Sports Talk here on Newstalk zb lines are open
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I've got a couple
of leading questions for you, but of course it's an
open floor to discuss this first selection of Scott Robertson's
coaching tenure for the All Blacks. The twenty three is
outn't we know who they are, we know what they
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can provide. We know that no debutantes have made the
cut for that side. Although the man we've been talking about,
Sammy penny Fena, he's played one test as it occurred.
It was against Australia under the roof in Deneed in
August last year where he scored himself a try. This
is the bloke that you may or may not know,
played a lot of US rugby at fallback before switching
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to the loose forwards and able to questions on text
around why him not Ethan Black at it? I'll address
those texts shortly, but I really like your calls around
not only the team selection, but what does the selection
say to you about how Razor plans to play the
game against England on Saturday night, not the rest of
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the season, not the game in Eden Park the week
alfter his first game. There is so much on this game.
We talked about this last night Stand firmly by that
Ian Foster wasn't given much rope at all, and the
fans in the crowd hung up pretty fast when things
didn't work well. Is it going to be the same
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with Raiser Robertson. I'd suggest it will be. There be
a lot of people out there who don't like disappointment,
a lot of traditional, lot of old school going. They
want him to fall on his face. I genuinely believe
that from the position I sit in, So take that
into account. Look at the team twenty three that have
been picked. Tell me how they're going to play the game.
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I'll tell you what I think, but I want to
hear what you think. That's more important. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty lines are open. It's twenty two after
seven's deep no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk cool oh eight
hundred eighty News Talk CB.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Fav cleven prayer so hey twenty five after seven scoresaw
car on News Talk ZBOR eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nineteen nineteen. That's the text number letter writ in case
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you've just woken up after a deep sleep and have
no idea what I'm talking about. The All Blacks team
was announced the day for the test intermed and on
Saturday night. Can hear that live and free through the
mouth and mind of Elliott Smith on News Talk ZB
five plus seven That game kicks off. Here is the
match day twenty three. We're on caps as well as
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to show the experience of the side front row the
group to twenty two Cody Taylor eighty five to our
lomax thirty two, Captain Scott Barrett's sixty nine tests, Patrick
tuy Pluto tooy Pilotu, excuse me polotu, he's got forty
three tests. Very young Semipenny fan out only the one
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test so far. Dotor Papo Lei on the open side
with thirty two, Vice captain eighty sav with eighty one
test caps the vice captain in the boot TJ Peinado,
what a great story. Eighty matches for him back in
the nine Pozzy Damien Mackenzie is his hast partner on
forty seven, Mark Talaya on the left wing nine test,
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but great tests they've been. Jeordie Barrett had another vice
captain fifty seven tests at second five eighth. Rico Yowanni
has the faith still in center sixty seven tests, Sevu
Reese on the right wing twenty three tests, and Stephen
Parafetta has been pecked as the fallback in fifteen. This
will only be his fourth test off the bench. Amor
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on the fussy Neil Vai Jacobs and Christy Lennett Brown
and Barrett yours please, as the Great One used to say,
it's twenty seven after seven, Hi, Craig.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
How's it going this evening?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's going very very well.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm most Abulian.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
And most obedient.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay, no, no, Abulian, I'm not obedient. It's the last
thing I ask I go to say the wrong showh
What do you think, Craig?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
How are they going to play?
Speaker 10 (18:58):
Well?
Speaker 9 (18:58):
I'm actually looking forward to it. I'm actually probably the
worst person in his zeelands about rugby. I don't follow it.
I lost interest many years ago with all the stop
start playing stuff. But I was around the Apearance place
and I was watching the Blues match versus the final
Your Repians a good chiefs yeah, and I was glued
to the set. I just like, this is interesting, this
is fun, this is actually quite good. And I was
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thinking to myself that Blues team could probably take on something,
to take on some international teams the way they were playing.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Can I just tape this call and send it to
the guys that run super rugby don't They might send
you a chocolate fish.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I don't think they make them anymore do That was
something about the news good point, probably to see me
effect similar or something.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
That'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you've you've got You've actually been re aroused by rugby.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
This is great news.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
I used to be basically into American football only and
all my friends reckons that I should actually get my
sort of some revoke in New Zealand because I wasn't
following rugby. And I said, well, the problem here with
rugby is it stops starting. Don't get me involved on
the TMO that seems to come in like a fourth
fourth chef in the kitchen. And then it sometimes slows
it down when you know, over a standing around, especially
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when they do a try and it's like, oh no,
hang on and you've got to go back and sit
there for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Awful.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
But the other I should have with the fact is
you've got players like say, for instance, golf and motorsport
and stuff like that, and if the guy driving the
carr and the motorsport has a bad thing that you
don't get the crowd going. We want to get rid
of the director of sports that team. I think sometimes
it's a little by the fair attacking the coaches. That's
what's ten me off a little bit, because you get
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he can train the guys, put them on the field,
put them on the best position as possible as what
they're playing by. And then sometimes they do basically brain
farts and just chup and muck ups and all that
and lose the game, and they all trying to ring
out the coach and it's like, well, he's not on
the field. He can only do so much.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But but and I get that, and it's very easy
to target one person as opposed to entire team of
twenty three. But when you have the right coach in position,
you get a situation like the Handsome era where the
team just don't lose, and that's got to come under
the coach.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So you're going to have the good and the.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Bad, right Craig, Yeah, yeah, well that's what I'm hoping for.
The robinsonsvicually seems to be able to have a way
to get the best out of people. But oh yeah,
it's an interesting game. I mean, fish on Saturday when
you've got like a new New Zealand All Blacks team
and you've got a new pretty much new English team,
so you've got two newbies playing. The only difference I
can see is one team's had a little bit more
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international games than the other one. But you know, they've
got the other team's got the home advantage, so it's
going to be an interesting game to see how that
plays out.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I reckon, Yeah, I think so, and thanks for your call, Craig.
Was the Japanese that the English team took on and
well beat them, I might add, but does that lure
them into a false sense of security? This is not
to punch down on Japanese rugby what others, but they
were very good were they. So we'll see how they
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make up the numbers against this New Zealand team. Right,
go to our next call, Hi, Chris.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
Yeah, the first thing that I would like to know
is how fast are the wingers that we've got. Do
they do eleven or twelve second hundred minutes or.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't think it's important, Chris.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
If you do it, I think it's that's very important.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, no, isn't it more important to have the ability
to read the game, to have the ability to step,
the ability to fend, the ability to attack, or I
think the difference between half a second and point seven
of a second running in a straight line doesn't have
anything to do with rugby union with all due respect.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Well, but the other comment that I'd like to make
is Leonard Brown. I would like him in the starting lineup.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Okay, why would you like him in the starting lineup, Chris?
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Because he's tough and he could, his defensive ability and
his attack ability is immense. He's a wonderful player.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm not I'm not going to argue with that one,
but I think what he provides off the bench is
well more important that I'm not the coach.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's what Scott Robertson, that's to do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But you look what I like about this team, and
this may be safety first for Scott Robertson is he's
kept faith with Rica Yoanni at center, and there's been
a number of voices for a number of years saying
it still is not working Rica Yoanni at center, but
he's got a pairing with Jordy Barrett. They seem to
know each other's game, so I think that's a safe selection.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And if one of those or either.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Of those goes down, Anton Lender Brown's going to roll
and and cover the twelve or thirteen jumper.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
I hear on that, But why do not start with Lenard?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, that's what I said, because he can cover two positions,
so if someone breaks, they can roll them straight into
whatever position he's got to cover. And he's got the
ability to dance between posies and I think that's handy
seventy two. It's a sports talk on that news talk,
zed B. More of your calls, more of your texts
still to come. Some guys said that bloke didn't like
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rugby because it's to stop start, but he likes American football. Wow, yep,
that's a salient point. Thanks very much for that. I'll
come back with more of your text, but more importantly,
more of your call. Still talking all black selection, their
team of raises, tenure out today, good, bad and different.
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What does it say about the way he's going to
play the game or instructors men to play said game?
This is News Talks a b I'm Darcier on sportsbook.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
It's changed someone from me on the dub side of
wisht there's a party downtown.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You're fifty.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Everybody had Budy?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
All right, okay, fine, So there's a Country and Western
takeover of the station. I just have to accept my fate.
I will overcome it. We play both kinds of music,
country and Western. Are the Blues Brothers? What a film?
Speaker 10 (25:27):
That is?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Twenty three minutes to eight Sports Talk here on News
Talk ZB. Just a couple of texts before we get
back to the phone lines. O eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty NFL is the most stop start sport to exist.
Granted it is darcy. Have you seen Tom and Luke
Stoltman recently? Why don't you talk about other great sports
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apart from New Zealand Stodge Well Ray Just a couple
of wee hints here because it is our national game.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It is the most popular.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sport we have, and people like to talk about it because.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They know all about it. They have played it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's on our TV, and to a degree it shapes
us as sporting kiwis. As for Luke and Ray Stoltman
and how many more are there? Harry, Tom, a few
other ones, all due respect, I love what they do.
I find strong men competitions quite enchanting. But there's no
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real skill, is there. It's not sport. It's basically it's
basically furniture delivery guys. They just pick stuff up and
put it down again. I'm gonna pick this up and
I'm gonna run a bit, then I'm gonna put it
down again. It's what I do at the gym. I
don't pick up as heavy stuff. But that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's why we.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Don't talk about it. Okay, just so you know anyway,
get back to the phones, Hi, Mick, how are you.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Right?
Speaker 11 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Good bro?
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Just yard.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
Not a bad team though.
Speaker 13 (26:59):
Really the behavior of that, I think most of your
behavior that Harry is going.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
To play well, who knows.
Speaker 13 (27:08):
We're all find out about similar clocks saiday Night and
obviously history one up front, we all know that, so.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Will go right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It looks to me I would say this is possibly
one of the safest hands Scott Robinson could deal out
of the squad that he's named. Yeah, that to me
says he's very cognizant of the fact that if he loses,
if the team loses, hate will rain down on I
don't think he's afraid of the hate, but I think
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he knows that he's got to start off solid.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So that's a solid team.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
Yeah, But I don't think why is the hate coming
into it.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
I mean referred to earlier that you know a lot
of people.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
Would hate on him if he does lose. I mean,
I can't see what it would happen.
Speaker 12 (27:58):
I mean the big plan is it's a four year
plan as.
Speaker 13 (28:01):
Well to win the World Cup.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
So you know, hey, we can lose four in a row.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
Mention that Paul.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was there when we lost five in a row
under Taine Randall, and I think I'm still licking my
wounds over that one. What I'm saying around the stomach
is that in this chair, I get a lot of texts,
I get a lot of emails, I eat a lot
of talk, and I know how nasty people can get
when the all blacks don't perform. I also know that
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there's a lot of needle out there for Scott Robertson
because he is an unconventional coach and that really ruffles feathers.
So I'm just saying from experience in this seat, I
know what people are like.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Yeah, I mean it shouldn't be long. You know, it
was a twenty year rain. Come back to Henry Hanson
and Foster. You know I needed change.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
What was his name, you know, Shann Darren Shann, Yeah, Shanny, human.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
Man.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
But he had them all on the job.
Speaker 13 (29:06):
You know, things get stale.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Look, I have got absolutely zero issue with Scott Robinson.
I think what he brings to the side, what he
brings to rugby, what he brings to sport is a
wonderful broom swept through. It is so refreshing. I'm all
over and we talk about pressure make He's a guy
that had a team called the Crusaders that kept winning
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titles and even when they are looking at number five,
number six and they're in some pretty dodgy positions that
it pushed them down. No, they got better. It's enormously exciting,
But I know what.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
People are like, Yeah, that's right. All Black rugby is
in good hands for the four years. See what happens.
I think we're one on today, Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think we're in good hands too, as long as the.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Administration keep out of it, like the players, the coaching staff,
the fitness people, the media, everyone great administrators. Everything they
kind of touch. Is there an opposite to the miner's
touch where everything they touch tunes? Brown? I think you
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know what I mean that, Graham, how are you good?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
You stop the ban dance music? I say, the head
on before.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Stop it? That's good?
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Do you think this is a safe move? The team
that Razor has selected. I don't think he's a safe person.
But to me it smacks of easy and all. It's beclm.
Speaker 14 (30:47):
Well, I do say, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm
good luck to Stephen Pirafeder, but I wouldn't call I
think really a safer I think I think I actually
like the fact he's picked Stephen pira Feder at fallback.
I didn't think he'd do that, but that that I
don't it is a safe team overall, but I don't
think that's a safe selection. In the sense that Boden
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would have been the really conservative safe selection. So he's
got Boden on the bench. But but it is I
would have liked to see Eathan Blackhead of there. Just
the pointed he's not on either.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But you're not alone with that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
A lot of takes have come and said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They can't work out why, you know.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
It was always you know some you know seen hours
had a great year for the Chiefs, so he plays
like Frazel, So that's what they've done. But yeah, it
look decent there, but.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Six more this year. Then Blackhead hasn't played a great
deal and when he has, he spent a wee bit
of time actually in the boots. So maybe he's not
prime for that six What was that right?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Or am I making this up?
Speaker 14 (31:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (31:52):
But I'd say I'd say, is he played seven in
the last six weeks?
Speaker 8 (31:58):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So maybe that's all.
Speaker 14 (32:00):
But he is the type of player that Ken swap
between the two with a plume, because I mean, he's
he's there, very versatile, and he just this game he
plays basically the same way, which is sort of search
and destroy. But but you know, I say this scene now,
so it's going to be interesting. And at back line, yeah,
you know, I like the Jordie and Rico. Yeah, I
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thought they might stick with Rico at center, even though
a lot of people whant I'm on the wing. I
think Tahalaia and Sevu Reese picked them picked themselves. You know,
they're both both similar but different players. You know, they
absolutely you know, they just don't stop, you know, so
they're everywhere. So they're great players. And they both said
(32:43):
great seasons and sort of teams that had different fortunes.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But had a great season because his team played like
a broken ass and he still looked fantastic with all
you respect.
Speaker 14 (32:55):
Oh no, there's no doubt. In some of the worst
games he would he would score a brilliant dry you know,
when the game team got better, he was sort of
you know, he's just said, was that we're just one
of the numbers. But he stood out and dire situations
and yeah, I mean, yeah, but you're right about Razor.
They would, they would. He would get dumped on by
(33:16):
certain sections. I've seen I mean I've seen it and
you get it in the studio and yeah, there's no
doubt about that. But it's going to be a great
game because I think England both looks a good coach.
I think so it's going to be a ding going back.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
All really keen And I've talked to Elliott Smith around
the energy over the last week from people buying into
this and actually standing up and watching and listening. That's
quite rare at the start of all black seasons, to
be fair, and it is the quality of the opposition.
It's the fact that there's new players, it's a fact
that it's razor. This has got a lot on it
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me a massive game.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What have you got for us?
Speaker 11 (33:57):
I won't be watching the game, okay, because it's a
nighttime and I think that I don't know what is
going on. But you tell me, why would anybody go
to that stadium on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Night because it's freezing cold inside?
Speaker 11 (34:18):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Inside?
Speaker 11 (34:19):
Can't they play it? Why won't they play side these holes?
There's holes that even.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You have not surprisingly warm all things said, And don't
even though it is in the south which is a
pretty cold place.
Speaker 11 (34:33):
Are we not playing daytime rugby?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
You'll wear a coat. You'll have to direct that at
Mark Robinson, the.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
The market where we go, the wokster himself, Mark Robinson. Yeah,
need I need to watching it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I need you to explain a couple of things to me,
even if you don't mind. Sure, why is Mark Robinson
a wokester and what exactly does that mean?
Speaker 11 (34:59):
Okay, well look, let let's let's go back to my
first My first argument was that why is it being
played at.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
So you can't answer my questions?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So you are avoiding it because you don't know what
a wokest it is and you don't know how that
applies to the person you accused it of being, and
you're not going to watch the game. I'm surprised I
gave you sixty seconds. It's thirteen minutes to eight SportsTalk
Care on newstalks eb Basketball is up next to the
Boucher joins the show. Fantastic victory of a night from
(35:32):
the Talk Blacks. Can they do it again? Tell them?
Boutcher up next ten to eight sports Stalk on Newstalk's EBB.
A couple of texts for you, old mate. Sounds like
he just hates all good things in life. Never heard
(35:54):
anyone complain about primetime rugby, and he's really crowded. A
bit of a storm here. That last bloke can't be
a kiwi complaining about an evening game of footy and
the cold. He must have a spongy appended.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You get my drift. Why don't you screen your court?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I gave this us enough. Let's get on to our mate.
My friend, mister Dylan Boucher, form aware of the Alice Bandy,
former breaker, a former tall Black, and he now as
the CEO of Basketball New Zealand. He joins us now
from Greece, where this fever last second qualifying tournament is
going on. Basketballing at the Olympics. Is that going to
(36:31):
be the case, Dylan, Welcome to the show. Look, it
must be fantastic. Must be great to be watching this
court side.
Speaker 15 (36:38):
Yeah, awesome, bask good to check mate. It's really hot
over here, but probably not as hot as the boys
we were last night.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That was extraordinary. Now I didn't see it. You were courtside,
so plainly you did up against Croatia trying to qualify.
What's a six team camp, three teams for one semi,
three teams qualifying the other. Beyond the semi the final,
only one team out of six qualify. So when it
comes to the opposition, you had to get a scalp
somewhere and you started off with Croatia. Where did that
(37:05):
come from? Because I believe the game was like, what
was it? Twelve and three? Shut out to you guys
went on a run.
Speaker 15 (37:11):
Yeah, we obviously coming against this, this Olympic qualifying tournament,
we knew it was going to be tough. We knew
the teams were facing. They're all quality teams, and I
was at a Fever meeting yesterday and they caught it
a mini World Cup for many World Cups around around
getting ready to qualify for the Olympics. So we knew
coming up it was going to be tough, and we
knew the first game was going to be really important
(37:32):
to put ourselves in the driver's seat. And the boys
didn't disappoint. They just played their hearts out. They played
with physicality, they played with poise, they made shots when
they needed to make them, they executed well. I mean,
it wasn't the perfect game, but certainly we felt like
we wore Croatia down. They'd played the night before against
Slavena and beat Slovenia, so we knew that they were
(37:53):
a very very strong team. And you know they've got
NBA players on their roster and top ear elgue players
on their rosters, and it was always going to be
a tough ask, but the boys rose to the occasion
and really put everything out there, and you know it,
like you say, stifling them at the end of the
game with our defense and execution down the stretch and
came away with the four point one That.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Fever are cruel. I'm sorry if it's that hot over there.
Croatia got that with Slovenia and the n twenty four
hours later play us and now we roll Croatia and
we've got Slovenia coming up shortly.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
This is just mean, mate, Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's
I mean, this is these guys, especially the NBA guys
I used to it. They play night and night out
and for our you know, you ask any player, they
just want to play. So these guys are fatigued, won't
be effect today, They'll they'll be throwing it all out
there because you know, for us, we want to make
sure we go through to the next round, and we
need to be sure we either win this game or
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we can't lose by more than nine would still get
us through. So it's really important to come out of
the blocks well and obviously Luka Doncic. We'll be leading
Slovenia and we'll be wanting to make up for the
loss they had the other night against Croatia. They're well
rested with a day off, so they'll come and fight
up and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You talk of European sides and the way, and we're
obviously not playing NBA basketball. This is world basketball rules.
Will this help out the tall blacks up against a
guy like Dontic.
Speaker 15 (39:18):
I don't know. I mean, Lucas come from Europe where
he played fever rules all the way through, so this
is in his veins. He won't skip a beat from
the NBA. I mean, he had a triple double in
the game and the loss, so he'll be again. I
was speaking to the Slovenian federation and they said he's
really angry with how he played and the loss, and
(39:39):
I said, oh, there's not many guys that get a
triple double and angry with the way they played, So
that shows the levels of the guy. He didn't shoot
the ball well. He'll be looking to come out and
rectify that. But all we'll be going through his hands.
So it's going to be a huge challenge for the
team tonight.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And have you been involved? Have you been in the
sheds as Pero Cameron, let you have a talk to
the boys and they're say, no, you're the boss man.
You stay well over there.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I've got this boss.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
No.
Speaker 15 (40:05):
I just the only thing I do is go in
and celebrate afterwards. I leave it to the professionals, and
you know, Perrau and the coaching staff do a great
job preparing the boys. I try not to be disruptive
at all, so I just sit sideline and watch and
then get to get to join in the celebration when
the team wins.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So you've got Croatia and Slovenia in your group, gotta
qualify in the top two. Should do that if you
finished with them, if you even if you lose with them.
What as you say, nineteen points that is great. Other
side of the coin, what Greece and it's being held
in Greece, Egypt and the Dominican Republic. These are tough
basketball sides.
Speaker 15 (40:41):
Dylan, Yeah, absolutely. I mean if you had the pleasure
of being over here and then walking around the hotel,
you realize, you know, the tour blecks just they do
so well on the international stage when you know, you
look at the size difference, the huge guys walking around,
you know, and the players lounges and things like that,
they're just they're just huge basketball you know, huge sized
(41:03):
basketball players. But they're all talented.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
You know.
Speaker 15 (41:05):
The teams that were will potentially cross over with Dominican Republic,
Greece and in Egypt, they're all talented. The Egyptians a
huge men, and so it's a it's going to take
everything to be able to if we're successful getting through
to go through this next side of the Poland obviously,
you know, playing Giannis in Greece in front of sold
our fans, it's going to be no easy feat. So yeah,
(41:28):
someone's going to have to go through Greece to get
to to get to the Olympics. So it's it's a
big ask.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Why wouldn't that beat us?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Thank you very much, Dylan Boucher, CEO or Basketball New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
This is big.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Tall back's doing well. The white ferns stinking the joint up.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That's overseas play for you.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Hey, that is it for the program. Thanks so much
or your crew for ringing through even the ones that
probably really didn't get the traction they wanted, so be it.
Heaps of texts, can't read them all. I'd much prefer
to hear your voice, So sorry if I haven't read
your texts out, so be it. I love the fact
you're dining in and listening to the program. I've just
(42:15):
cover off a few. There's quite a few texts who
still can't work out why Ethan black At it wasn't
in the side you let us chance. Ben Finow played
one test in Donedan under the roof last year against Australia,
scored a try replicate and as I said, this is
(42:37):
a safe enough selection. Bit a continuity in there. I
don't think Razor wants to shake up the world and
test number one. He just wants to build sensible care
from a man that people call nuts. God like that
and it's middic. Thanks for producing. Thanks to everyone for calling,
for texting, for listening, for hating, for spitting, for shouting.
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I'm Darcy Watergrave and I'm going home.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Thanks for sticking around for the next hour. Thanks for
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
Of standard techs.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Charge more rugby in a touch of basketball is what
we're looking at this evening. Of course it's going to
be rugby. It's first test of the season. Massive, massive
evening in Dneda. So many people on the edge of
their seats looking to see what Scott Robertson can do
(01:18):
and as jbu as the All Black coach, and today
he did something else for the first time. He named
his first All Black Siders first twenty three to take
on the marauding English who have arrived in town and
named their team last year. That fine, Okay, they ain't
it Tuesday, but they plenty of time. That team has
come out. We're going to take your calls on that team.
(01:38):
A couple of facets of that team, surprise selections and
what does the selection say to you about the way
this team is going to approach this Test match, not
the rest of the season, nothing else, just Test batch
number one one other time won each test go the
next one. We spoke of this last night. I got
(01:59):
accused on text of not being an All Black fan
because I had the Tameritisa suggest that maybe Razor would
lose his first game. Well, of course I did. I
was interested to see what the reaction would be and
I still am if that happened. So we'll be talking
about that with Molly Mulliana. Centurion one hundred tests for
the All Blacks in fallback, and I've got to be honest,
(02:22):
it's my favorite All Black back in the day. There's
something about the guy's poise, the guy's ability to slow time.
I very much enjoyed defensively amazing, fantastic under the high ball.
And now he's a commentator, he's a comments man, he's
a pundit, and he joins us shortly to talk about
(02:43):
this All Black side that will take your calls on
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Toward the end of
the program, Dylan Boucher joins us from Greece. The t
All Blacks. They don't shook up the basketball world. Last
night overnight they beat Croatia. They are in a qualifying
tournament for the Olympic Games. It is tough. It just
(03:05):
gets tougher over night tonight. We'll talk about that with
former Tall Black, former breaker and basketball n Z CEO mister.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Dillon at Boucher.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
That's what we're doing. Are you in of course, you
in right.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Let's do this.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Lets support today as I have touched on Asa. Ray
Robinson has named the first all Black team of his tenure,
and he's had a call from Sir Graham Henry.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Who had a similar seed to the new coach.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
So Ted actually text me last night and said all
the best crew started twenty years ago down here in
the same place. So there was an ice little touch
for him's and he had a head of a credit there.
So just probably that legacy part.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Water the dirt flowers last for you. Ray White.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Ferns skipper Sophie Divine has stoutly defended her team's suboptimal
performance in England so far it's a development to her.
She hinted at results on all that important. She hinted it.
She sh really, you look back twelve months and see
the growth and it's massive.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
But people look at the results and say, oh, we
lost three mil.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
But to us it is really important that we could
keep a bigger picture around this and around this group. Yeah.
I love Sophie Devine like a sister, but to me,
growth is results, isn't it. That's all we can judge
sport on and we haven't really had any. That's called
five games to go of t twenties, then a break
(04:34):
break and then a couple of games against the Australians
and then the World Cup starts early October. The black
Cats must be loving this distraction. Ryan, Now you go on,
you go on, you knock us all out like us.
It would appear that even some of the football Ferns
have little or no idea about the cause of the
(04:55):
standdown fog that's shrouding their former coach Yetka Klimkober, McKenzie Barry.
It's a shining example.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, it was quite sudden, and I haven't been filled
in on all the details, but at the end of
the day, we're just here to prepare for the Olympics
and the Olympics is an amazing event and it's horrible
to take traction away from that onto something that has
nothing to do with most of us.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
No sea, no here, no speak. Three primates to the
four and Ryan Fox has more than unpacked his game
every week on.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Tour, got the three and a half year old and
one year old, and I think we did twenty weeks
living out of a suitcase with them with no base.
So while it was great to have them on tour,
it certainly didn't feel like, you know, I had much
of a break. Ended up playing a lot, so it's
been tough in that sense, but started to feel like
I found my feet a little bit.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We should find them at the bottom of your suitco Sorry,
that was terrible. I didn't say.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes I did, and.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
That's sport today.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We're now on Sports Talk by four hundred test cap
all Black May Mulliana. I know that's a little over
the top, Mills, but let's face it, a century for
a back. You got some history in this game. Also
obviously on the breakdown and commentating for Sky comes Saturday
night up against the English? Is your play full enough? Bro?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh man?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Let's tell you what.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's a pretty excited plate now that the teams have
finally been named. Well, when I say finally, the All
Blacks given Thursday and the English come out on Tuesday.
But it's so much intrigue about this whole first up game.
Obviously Raiser and his sort of coaching staff, what sort
of they're going to bring to the table in terms of,
I suppose your game plan and how they're going to
(06:33):
play the game. But also the English had brought down
a very very good team and some youth in there
as well, and perhaps a lot of us don't know
much about too, so looking forward to this one does and.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I suppose the biggest point of interest is the position
that you made Jerone all those years ago, sorry just recently,
all those years ago, not calling it old Merlesby. There
you go, hey, fallback. Stephen Peifeta has been given the nod.
He's starting at fallback. How big is this? Did you
see this one coming? No?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Not not really, I mean, but when you actually look
at it and you dissect without even really listening to
sort of the reasons why you tend to forget because
everyone goes. I thought they might have put you know,
Damien back the voting at ten or vice versa the
other way around. But when you actually look at Steven
Peedlefetter's game management and what he actually done and does
in a positional plays, he's very sound up in the air,
(07:27):
he's he's he's confident in the he directs his wingers
really well, and he's actually deceptively pretty quick. So in
some ways, perhaps everyone you know, all the talkers around
Damien and Bowden, but you've actually got someone like a
pedal Fetter who's been you know, he's played a test,
he's he's slid under under all those aspects that I've
sort of spoken about, and now it gets a really
(07:48):
good opportunity to go out there. And I think a
lot of that too, will have will be the fact
that England are going to kick a hick of a
lot and his position will play for me is outstanding.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's really benefited, has any which is sad from the
injury of his arn Sullivan because he spent so much
time at fallback for that championship Blues team.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, he's had his injuries himself. He was out for
a very long time and they probably you know, I
would have thought at the beginning of the year they
would have had him as downs as the attended director
been out for for a while and to get him
back into play whilst Harry Plummel was going so well.
It's an easy sort of transition. You know, start him
in at fall back. You know he's sort of which
(08:27):
he's he's a confident sort of a player can play
seeing him and fall back comprehensively. But you've seen in
the last sort of as he's sort of come back,
he's slowly just starting to get in some really quality
form again his positional play. I think what you don't
need to see when he you know when you're at
when you're watching it on TVs and stuff off the
ball and then as I said, positionally he anticipates the
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ball really well in terms of when they're exitting out
of there their own twenty two and I think that's
going to be a biggie. I think being able to
catch the ball on the fall, particularly as a team
that you know are expected to kick a lot, and
then to counter attack off that, which is very he
is very good at. Alongside his other two wingers, I
think there could be a really positive well, it is
a positive sort of selection.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Both sides of the ball were HARKing back now to
Hoskin stitutu why he didn't get named in that squad.
This is something that raises pretty hot on.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
It's great when you're looking at guys on the ball
and when he says off the ball, you know, defensively
and I mean you're talking at about a position that
guys have to hit hard, right, And the last thing
when you get to testaments fully is that you don't
ride players. And perhaps it's kind of what he's sort
of alluding to. We know how good Hoskins is with
ball in hand, but we've got a lot of players
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that are good good in it with ball in hand
as well. So you know, when you look at the
percentages and for your sort of look at sort of
you know, the percentage into tackle, percent in the accuracy
in that, you know he's probably down in the all
in terms of the guys that have you know, I
think the guy that's closest to is Tommy Pennifey now
over the Super ab season and ninety percent everyone else
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is above ninety two that's been selected for the All Blacks.
So when you're looking at sort of stuff like that
the coaches often do, it comes down to those that
have been you know, good boat on both sides of
the ball, and when you're going up against a pack
and particularly the Northern Hemisphere teams there very very big.
That's obviously what you know. Raiser Robinson's alluding to the
fact that, hey, it's.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
In our DNA.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
We love hitting on the ball in hand, you know,
regardless of we're your number one or number eight or
even wide. But if you can't hit and hit well
and stop these big, big guys coming forward, all it
does is it's a flow and effect in terms of
putting pressure on your team and the next guy having
it to assist, and then another guy and another guy,
and that's a really big thing at the moment. You know,
you've got to be you know, and that's it's all.
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That's it's a news phrase. You've got to be good
on both sides of the ball. And thankfully enough for me,
I was only got on one side of the ball, mate,
and I don't have to do too many tackles, so
I got selected.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Let's take a look at Semi Pinafina and the position
he holds. They look at it was going to be
not a coin task, but the decision was going to
go one way or the other with a couple of
players in that pozzy. Why did Summerpenie get the nod?
Do you think? Well?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think if if you look at it, it's perhaps
the height. You know, somebody Penny give gives us another another.
I suppose line out option in terms of his height.
We know how good he is on when you when
you hit the players on defense, but staying in that
system is going to be a big one. So I
think it's possibly that all carries in close quarters, you know,
off off the ten or you know, after nine, he
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gets his body position you know, low, and he's quite
tough at getting getting that, particularly inside the twenty two.
So I think, you know, when you've got two relatively
big locks and Barrett and also to belo to, he
just gives us a little bit of each, possibly a
bit of speed and and something for the English to
consider it lineout time, because it's going to be a
big thing. I mean the English are going to come here.
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You know, traditionally they've been very good at their lineout
drives the seat piece. You know, they they've selected a
very experienced, you know team up front, particularly when it
comes to scrum time. So getting that variation just something
for the English sort of think about and sometimes when
you're when it is your ball at lineout and it
might just give you that little bit of an edge.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
J old school. Making it back for what will be
his eighty first Test match, this is a wonderful story
of redemption. Pairing up with Damien McKenzie. I'm not sure
everyone picked that either, figuring maybe he'd come up as
the cleanup job off the bench and possibly Finley Christie
would start. That is not the case. What does that
say to you about the way Scott Robertson wants to
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play this game.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
I think experience really isn't it. So that's a lot
of Test matches in it, and you're right, what a
wonderful story. I mean, you've got to also remember Royga
got an opportunity off the back end of t J
Pitt and being being injured you know when he was
at the Hurricanes as well, and it's almost gone the
other way. In the way he's got his body back,
particularly in the later stages of his career, has been outstanding.
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But you know, I think the experience, particularly in your
first Test match as a coach, he probably wants to
make sure that's sort of short up in some ways.
Not that I'm saying that Finlet Christy doesn't provide that either,
but I think just that little bit of a bit
of an edge around there, and also probably to counter
what's on the other side. And in terms of you know,
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you're Marcus Smiths and also Mitchell So and he's a competitor.
I think he's he's he'll go out there and you'll
try and niggle those guys.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Look that I mentioned particularly Smith and Smith in particular
to try and get him off his game. So it's
great to see TJ back. It's it's awesome that we
have got that bit of experience. And I like this team,
I really do. And I think, you know, there's a
couple of positions here that you would have thought far out.
You're not quite sure where what he's going to go to.
The big one for me is how are we going
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to play? And I go back to my point about
our DNA loving to spread the wall. But you know
the last few years, you know, hek of along resource
sort of making sure our set pieces right, almost detrimental
to the style we play. So I'm hoping we sort
of revert back to a little bit of a bit
more balance towards the expensive game. But we also truly
know that we've got to make sure we get front
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foot and clean seat piece.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
The right call is your call on eight hundred eighty
eighty Sports Talk. Call on your home of Sports News
Talk Zibby.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Seven Sports Talk here on Newstalk zb lines are open
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I've got a couple
of leading questions for you, but of course it's an
open floor to discuss this first selection of Scott Robertson's
coaching tenure for the All Blacks. The twenty three is
outn't we know who they are, we know what they
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can provide. We know that no debutantes have made the
cut for that side. Although the man we've been talking about,
Sammy penny Fena, he's played one test as it occurred.
It was against Australia under the roof in Deneed in
August last year where he scored himself a try. This
is the bloke that you may or may not know,
played a lot of US rugby at fallback before switching
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to the loose forwards and able to questions on text
around why him not Ethan Black at it? I'll address
those texts shortly, but I really like your calls around
not only the team selection, but what does the selection
say to you about how Razor plans to play the
game against England on Saturday night, not the rest of
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the season, not the game in Eden Park the week
alfter his first game. There is so much on this game.
We talked about this last night Stand firmly by that
Ian Foster wasn't given much rope at all, and the
fans in the crowd hung up pretty fast when things
didn't work well. Is it going to be the same
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with Raiser Robertson. I'd suggest it will be. There be
a lot of people out there who don't like disappointment,
a lot of traditional, lot of old school going. They
want him to fall on his face. I genuinely believe
that from the position I sit in, So take that
into account. Look at the team twenty three that have
been picked. Tell me how they're going to play the game.
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I'll tell you what I think, but I want to
hear what you think. That's more important. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty lines are open. It's twenty two after
seven's deep no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk cool oh eight
hundred eighty News Talk CB.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Fav cleven prayer so hey twenty five after seven scoresaw
car on News Talk ZBOR eight hundred eighty ten eighty
nineteen nineteen. That's the text number letter writ in case
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you've just woken up after a deep sleep and have
no idea what I'm talking about. The All Blacks team
was announced the day for the test intermed and on
Saturday night. Can hear that live and free through the
mouth and mind of Elliott Smith on News Talk ZB
five plus seven That game kicks off. Here is the
match day twenty three. We're on caps as well as
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to show the experience of the side front row the
group to twenty two Cody Taylor eighty five to our
lomax thirty two, Captain Scott Barrett's sixty nine tests, Patrick
tuy Pluto tooy Pilotu, excuse me polotu, he's got forty
three tests. Very young Semipenny fan out only the one
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test so far. Dotor Papo Lei on the open side
with thirty two, Vice captain eighty sav with eighty one
test caps the vice captain in the boot TJ Peinado,
what a great story. Eighty matches for him back in
the nine Pozzy Damien Mackenzie is his hast partner on
forty seven, Mark Talaya on the left wing nine test,
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but great tests they've been. Jeordie Barrett had another vice
captain fifty seven tests at second five eighth. Rico Yowanni
has the faith still in center sixty seven tests, Sevu
Reese on the right wing twenty three tests, and Stephen
Parafetta has been pecked as the fallback in fifteen. This
will only be his fourth test off the bench. Amor
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on the fussy Neil Vai Jacobs and Christy Lennett Brown
and Barrett yours please, as the Great One used to say,
it's twenty seven after seven, Hi, Craig.
Speaker 9 (18:40):
How's it going this evening?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
It's going very very well.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I'm most Abulian.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
And most obedient.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Okay, no, no, Abulian, I'm not obedient. It's the last
thing I ask I go to say the wrong showh
What do you think, Craig?
Speaker 3 (18:56):
How are they going to play?
Speaker 10 (18:58):
Well?
Speaker 9 (18:58):
I'm actually looking forward to it. I'm actually probably the
worst person in his zeelands about rugby. I don't follow it.
I lost interest many years ago with all the stop
start playing stuff. But I was around the Apearance place
and I was watching the Blues match versus the final
Your Repians a good chiefs yeah, and I was glued
to the set. I just like, this is interesting, this
is fun, this is actually quite good. And I was
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thinking to myself that Blues team could probably take on something,
to take on some international teams the way they were playing.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Can I just tape this call and send it to
the guys that run super rugby don't They might send
you a chocolate fish.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
I don't think they make them anymore do That was
something about the news good point, probably to see me
effect similar or something.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
That'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So you've you've got You've actually been re aroused by rugby.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
This is great news.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
I used to be basically into American football only and
all my friends reckons that I should actually get my
sort of some revoke in New Zealand because I wasn't
following rugby. And I said, well, the problem here with
rugby is it stops starting. Don't get me involved on
the TMO that seems to come in like a fourth
fourth chef in the kitchen. And then it sometimes slows
it down when you know, over a standing around, especially
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when they do a try and it's like, oh no,
hang on and you've got to go back and sit
there for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Awful.
Speaker 9 (20:13):
But the other I should have with the fact is
you've got players like say, for instance, golf and motorsport
and stuff like that, and if the guy driving the
carr and the motorsport has a bad thing that you
don't get the crowd going. We want to get rid
of the director of sports that team. I think sometimes
it's a little by the fair attacking the coaches. That's
what's ten me off a little bit, because you get
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he can train the guys, put them on the field,
put them on the best position as possible as what
they're playing by. And then sometimes they do basically brain
farts and just chup and muck ups and all that
and lose the game, and they all trying to ring
out the coach and it's like, well, he's not on
the field. He can only do so much.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
But but and I get that, and it's very easy
to target one person as opposed to entire team of
twenty three. But when you have the right coach in position,
you get a situation like the Handsome era where the
team just don't lose, and that's got to come under
the coach.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So you're going to have the good and the.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Bad, right Craig, Yeah, yeah, well that's what I'm hoping for.
The robinsonsvicually seems to be able to have a way
to get the best out of people. But oh yeah,
it's an interesting game. I mean, fish on Saturday when
you've got like a new New Zealand All Blacks team
and you've got a new pretty much new English team,
so you've got two newbies playing. The only difference I
can see is one team's had a little bit more
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international games than the other one. But you know, they've
got the other team's got the home advantage, so it's
going to be an interesting game to see how that
plays out.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I reckon, Yeah, I think so, and thanks for your call, Craig.
Was the Japanese that the English team took on and
well beat them, I might add, but does that lure
them into a false sense of security? This is not
to punch down on Japanese rugby what others, but they
were very good were they. So we'll see how they
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make up the numbers against this New Zealand team. Right,
go to our next call, Hi, Chris.
Speaker 10 (22:05):
Yeah, the first thing that I would like to know
is how fast are the wingers that we've got. Do
they do eleven or twelve second hundred minutes or.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
I don't think it's important, Chris.
Speaker 10 (22:22):
If you do it, I think it's that's very important.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, no, isn't it more important to have the ability
to read the game, to have the ability to step,
the ability to fend, the ability to attack, or I
think the difference between half a second and point seven
of a second running in a straight line doesn't have
anything to do with rugby union with all due respect.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Well, but the other comment that I'd like to make
is Leonard Brown. I would like him in the starting lineup.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Okay, why would you like him in the starting lineup, Chris?
Speaker 10 (22:53):
Because he's tough and he could, his defensive ability and
his attack ability is immense. He's a wonderful player.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I'm not I'm not going to argue with that one,
but I think what he provides off the bench is
well more important that I'm not the coach.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's what Scott Robertson, that's to do.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
But you look what I like about this team, and
this may be safety first for Scott Robertson is he's
kept faith with Rica Yoanni at center, and there's been
a number of voices for a number of years saying
it still is not working Rica Yoanni at center, but
he's got a pairing with Jordy Barrett. They seem to
know each other's game, so I think that's a safe selection.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
And if one of those or either.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Of those goes down, Anton Lender Brown's going to roll
and and cover the twelve or thirteen jumper.
Speaker 10 (23:50):
I hear on that, But why do not start with Lenard?
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, that's what I said, because he can cover two positions,
so if someone breaks, they can roll them straight into
whatever position he's got to cover. And he's got the
ability to dance between posies and I think that's handy
seventy two. It's a sports talk on that news talk,
zed B. More of your calls, more of your texts
still to come. Some guys said that bloke didn't like
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rugby because it's to stop start, but he likes American football. Wow, yep,
that's a salient point. Thanks very much for that. I'll
come back with more of your text, but more importantly,
more of your call. Still talking all black selection, their
team of raises, tenure out today, good, bad and different.
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What does it say about the way he's going to
play the game or instructors men to play said game?
This is News Talks a b I'm Darcier on sportsbook.
Speaker 8 (24:47):
It's changed someone from me on the dub side of
wisht there's a party downtown.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
You're fifty.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Everybody had Budy?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
All right, okay, fine, So there's a Country and Western
takeover of the station. I just have to accept my fate.
I will overcome it. We play both kinds of music,
country and Western. Are the Blues Brothers? What a film?
Speaker 10 (25:27):
That is?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Twenty three minutes to eight Sports Talk here on News
Talk ZB. Just a couple of texts before we get
back to the phone lines. O eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty NFL is the most stop start sport to exist.
Granted it is darcy. Have you seen Tom and Luke
Stoltman recently? Why don't you talk about other great sports
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apart from New Zealand Stodge Well Ray Just a couple
of wee hints here because it is our national game.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
It is the most popular.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Sport we have, and people like to talk about it because.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
They know all about it. They have played it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It's on our TV, and to a degree it shapes
us as sporting kiwis. As for Luke and Ray Stoltman
and how many more are there? Harry, Tom, a few
other ones, all due respect, I love what they do.
I find strong men competitions quite enchanting. But there's no
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real skill, is there. It's not sport. It's basically it's
basically furniture delivery guys. They just pick stuff up and
put it down again. I'm gonna pick this up and
I'm gonna run a bit, then I'm gonna put it
down again. It's what I do at the gym. I
don't pick up as heavy stuff. But that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's why we.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Don't talk about it. Okay, just so you know anyway,
get back to the phones, Hi, Mick, how are you.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
Right?
Speaker 11 (26:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Good bro?
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Just yard.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
Not a bad team though.
Speaker 13 (26:59):
Really the behavior of that, I think most of your
behavior that Harry is going.
Speaker 12 (27:07):
To play well, who knows.
Speaker 13 (27:08):
We're all find out about similar clocks saiday Night and
obviously history one up front, we all know that, so.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
Will go right.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
It looks to me I would say this is possibly
one of the safest hands Scott Robinson could deal out
of the squad that he's named. Yeah, that to me
says he's very cognizant of the fact that if he loses,
if the team loses, hate will rain down on I
don't think he's afraid of the hate, but I think
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he knows that he's got to start off solid.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So that's a solid team.
Speaker 13 (27:48):
Yeah, But I don't think why is the hate coming
into it.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
I mean referred to earlier that you know a lot
of people.
Speaker 13 (27:54):
Would hate on him if he does lose. I mean,
I can't see what it would happen.
Speaker 12 (27:58):
I mean the big plan is it's a four year
plan as.
Speaker 13 (28:01):
Well to win the World Cup.
Speaker 12 (28:03):
So you know, hey, we can lose four in a row.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
Mention that Paul.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was there when we lost five in a row
under Taine Randall, and I think I'm still licking my
wounds over that one. What I'm saying around the stomach
is that in this chair, I get a lot of texts,
I get a lot of emails, I eat a lot
of talk, and I know how nasty people can get
when the all blacks don't perform. I also know that
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there's a lot of needle out there for Scott Robertson
because he is an unconventional coach and that really ruffles feathers.
So I'm just saying from experience in this seat, I
know what people are like.
Speaker 12 (28:45):
Yeah, I mean it shouldn't be long. You know, it
was a twenty year rain. Come back to Henry Hanson
and Foster. You know I needed change.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
What was his name, you know, Shann Darren Shann, Yeah, Shanny, human.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
Man.
Speaker 9 (29:04):
But he had them all on the job.
Speaker 13 (29:06):
You know, things get stale.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Look, I have got absolutely zero issue with Scott Robinson.
I think what he brings to the side, what he
brings to rugby, what he brings to sport is a
wonderful broom swept through. It is so refreshing. I'm all
over and we talk about pressure make He's a guy
that had a team called the Crusaders that kept winning
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titles and even when they are looking at number five,
number six and they're in some pretty dodgy positions that
it pushed them down. No, they got better. It's enormously exciting,
But I know what.
Speaker 12 (29:42):
People are like, Yeah, that's right. All Black rugby is
in good hands for the four years. See what happens.
I think we're one on today, Yeah, one of those.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think we're in good hands too, as long as the.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Administration keep out of it, like the players, the coaching staff,
the fitness people, the media, everyone great administrators. Everything they
kind of touch. Is there an opposite to the miner's
touch where everything they touch tunes? Brown? I think you
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know what I mean that, Graham, how are you good?
Speaker 14 (30:27):
You stop the ban dance music? I say, the head
on before.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Stop it? That's good?
Speaker 14 (30:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Do you think this is a safe move? The team
that Razor has selected. I don't think he's a safe person.
But to me it smacks of easy and all. It's beclm.
Speaker 14 (30:47):
Well, I do say, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm
good luck to Stephen Pirafeder, but I wouldn't call I
think really a safer I think I think I actually
like the fact he's picked Stephen pira Feder at fallback.
I didn't think he'd do that, but that that I
don't it is a safe team overall, but I don't
think that's a safe selection. In the sense that Boden
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would have been the really conservative safe selection. So he's
got Boden on the bench. But but it is I
would have liked to see Eathan Blackhead of there. Just
the pointed he's not on either.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
But you're not alone with that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
A lot of takes have come and said the same thing.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
They can't work out why, you know.
Speaker 14 (31:28):
It was always you know some you know seen hours
had a great year for the Chiefs, so he plays
like Frazel, So that's what they've done. But yeah, it
look decent there, but.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Six more this year. Then Blackhead hasn't played a great
deal and when he has, he spent a wee bit
of time actually in the boots. So maybe he's not
prime for that six What was that right?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Or am I making this up?
Speaker 14 (31:50):
Now?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (31:52):
But I'd say I'd say, is he played seven in
the last six weeks?
Speaker 8 (31:58):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
So maybe that's all.
Speaker 14 (32:00):
But he is the type of player that Ken swap
between the two with a plume, because I mean, he's
he's there, very versatile, and he just this game he
plays basically the same way, which is sort of search
and destroy. But but you know, I say this scene now,
so it's going to be interesting. And at back line, yeah,
you know, I like the Jordie and Rico. Yeah, I
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thought they might stick with Rico at center, even though
a lot of people whant I'm on the wing. I
think Tahalaia and Sevu Reese picked them picked themselves. You know,
they're both both similar but different players. You know, they
absolutely you know, they just don't stop, you know, so
they're everywhere. So they're great players. And they both said
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great seasons and sort of teams that had different fortunes.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
But had a great season because his team played like
a broken ass and he still looked fantastic with all
you respect.
Speaker 14 (32:55):
Oh no, there's no doubt. In some of the worst
games he would he would score a brilliant dry you know,
when the game team got better, he was sort of
you know, he's just said, was that we're just one
of the numbers. But he stood out and dire situations
and yeah, I mean, yeah, but you're right about Razor.
They would, they would. He would get dumped on by
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certain sections. I've seen I mean I've seen it and
you get it in the studio and yeah, there's no
doubt about that. But it's going to be a great
game because I think England both looks a good coach.
I think so it's going to be a ding going back.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
All really keen And I've talked to Elliott Smith around
the energy over the last week from people buying into
this and actually standing up and watching and listening. That's
quite rare at the start of all black seasons, to
be fair, and it is the quality of the opposition.
It's the fact that there's new players, it's a fact
that it's razor. This has got a lot on it
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me a massive game.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
What have you got for us?
Speaker 11 (33:57):
I won't be watching the game, okay, because it's a
nighttime and I think that I don't know what is
going on. But you tell me, why would anybody go
to that stadium on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Night because it's freezing cold inside?
Speaker 11 (34:18):
Mate?
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Inside?
Speaker 11 (34:19):
Can't they play it? Why won't they play side these holes?
There's holes that even.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You have not surprisingly warm all things said, And don't
even though it is in the south which is a
pretty cold place.
Speaker 11 (34:33):
Are we not playing daytime rugby?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
You'll wear a coat. You'll have to direct that at
Mark Robinson, the.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
The market where we go, the wokster himself, Mark Robinson. Yeah,
need I need to watching it.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
I need you to explain a couple of things to me,
even if you don't mind. Sure, why is Mark Robinson
a wokester and what exactly does that mean?
Speaker 11 (34:59):
Okay, well look, let let's let's go back to my
first My first argument was that why is it being
played at.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
So you can't answer my questions?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So you are avoiding it because you don't know what
a wokest it is and you don't know how that
applies to the person you accused it of being, and
you're not going to watch the game. I'm surprised I
gave you sixty seconds. It's thirteen minutes to eight SportsTalk
Care on newstalks eb Basketball is up next to the
Boucher joins the show. Fantastic victory of a night from
(35:32):
the Talk Blacks. Can they do it again? Tell them?
Boutcher up next ten to eight sports Stalk on Newstalk's EBB.
A couple of texts for you, old mate. Sounds like
he just hates all good things in life. Never heard
(35:54):
anyone complain about primetime rugby, and he's really crowded. A
bit of a storm here. That last bloke can't be
a kiwi complaining about an evening game of footy and
the cold. He must have a spongy appended.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
You get my drift. Why don't you screen your court?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I gave this us enough. Let's get on to our mate.
My friend, mister Dylan Boucher, form aware of the Alice Bandy,
former breaker, a former tall Black, and he now as
the CEO of Basketball New Zealand. He joins us now
from Greece, where this fever last second qualifying tournament is
going on. Basketballing at the Olympics. Is that going to
(36:31):
be the case, Dylan, Welcome to the show. Look, it
must be fantastic. Must be great to be watching this
court side.
Speaker 15 (36:38):
Yeah, awesome, bask good to check mate. It's really hot
over here, but probably not as hot as the boys
we were last night.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That was extraordinary. Now I didn't see it. You were courtside,
so plainly you did up against Croatia trying to qualify.
What's a six team camp, three teams for one semi,
three teams qualifying the other. Beyond the semi the final,
only one team out of six qualify. So when it
comes to the opposition, you had to get a scalp
somewhere and you started off with Croatia. Where did that
(37:05):
come from? Because I believe the game was like, what
was it? Twelve and three? Shut out to you guys
went on a run.
Speaker 15 (37:11):
Yeah, we obviously coming against this, this Olympic qualifying tournament,
we knew it was going to be tough. We knew
the teams were facing. They're all quality teams, and I
was at a Fever meeting yesterday and they caught it
a mini World Cup for many World Cups around around
getting ready to qualify for the Olympics. So we knew
coming up it was going to be tough, and we
knew the first game was going to be really important
(37:32):
to put ourselves in the driver's seat. And the boys
didn't disappoint. They just played their hearts out. They played
with physicality, they played with poise, they made shots when
they needed to make them, they executed well. I mean,
it wasn't the perfect game, but certainly we felt like
we wore Croatia down. They'd played the night before against
Slavena and beat Slovenia, so we knew that they were
(37:53):
a very very strong team. And you know they've got
NBA players on their roster and top ear elgue players
on their rosters, and it was always going to be
a tough ask, but the boys rose to the occasion
and really put everything out there, and you know it,
like you say, stifling them at the end of the
game with our defense and execution down the stretch and
came away with the four point one That.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Fever are cruel. I'm sorry if it's that hot over there.
Croatia got that with Slovenia and the n twenty four
hours later play us and now we roll Croatia and
we've got Slovenia coming up shortly.
Speaker 15 (38:25):
This is just mean, mate, Yeah, absolutely, I mean it's
I mean, this is these guys, especially the NBA guys
I used to it. They play night and night out
and for our you know, you ask any player, they
just want to play. So these guys are fatigued, won't
be effect today, They'll they'll be throwing it all out
there because you know, for us, we want to make
sure we go through to the next round, and we
need to be sure we either win this game or
(38:48):
we can't lose by more than nine would still get
us through. So it's really important to come out of
the blocks well and obviously Luka Doncic. We'll be leading
Slovenia and we'll be wanting to make up for the
loss they had the other night against Croatia. They're well
rested with a day off, so they'll come and fight
up and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
You talk of European sides and the way, and we're
obviously not playing NBA basketball. This is world basketball rules.
Will this help out the tall blacks up against a
guy like Dontic.
Speaker 15 (39:18):
I don't know. I mean, Lucas come from Europe where
he played fever rules all the way through, so this
is in his veins. He won't skip a beat from
the NBA. I mean, he had a triple double in
the game and the loss, so he'll be again. I
was speaking to the Slovenian federation and they said he's
really angry with how he played and the loss, and
(39:39):
I said, oh, there's not many guys that get a
triple double and angry with the way they played, So
that shows the levels of the guy. He didn't shoot
the ball well. He'll be looking to come out and
rectify that. But all we'll be going through his hands.
So it's going to be a huge challenge for the
team tonight.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And have you been involved? Have you been in the
sheds as Pero Cameron, let you have a talk to
the boys and they're say, no, you're the boss man.
You stay well over there.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
I've got this boss.
Speaker 9 (40:04):
No.
Speaker 15 (40:05):
I just the only thing I do is go in
and celebrate afterwards. I leave it to the professionals, and
you know, Perrau and the coaching staff do a great
job preparing the boys. I try not to be disruptive
at all, so I just sit sideline and watch and
then get to get to join in the celebration when
the team wins.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So you've got Croatia and Slovenia in your group, gotta
qualify in the top two. Should do that if you
finished with them, if you even if you lose with them.
What as you say, nineteen points that is great. Other
side of the coin, what Greece and it's being held
in Greece, Egypt and the Dominican Republic. These are tough
basketball sides.
Speaker 15 (40:41):
Dylan, Yeah, absolutely. I mean if you had the pleasure
of being over here and then walking around the hotel,
you realize, you know, the tour blecks just they do
so well on the international stage when you know, you
look at the size difference, the huge guys walking around,
you know, and the players lounges and things like that,
they're just they're just huge basketball you know, huge sized
(41:03):
basketball players. But they're all talented.
Speaker 5 (41:05):
You know.
Speaker 15 (41:05):
The teams that were will potentially cross over with Dominican Republic,
Greece and in Egypt, they're all talented. The Egyptians a
huge men, and so it's a it's going to take
everything to be able to if we're successful getting through
to go through this next side of the Poland obviously,
you know, playing Giannis in Greece in front of sold
our fans, it's going to be no easy feat. So yeah,
(41:28):
someone's going to have to go through Greece to get
to to get to the Olympics. So it's it's a
big ask.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Why wouldn't that beat us?
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Thank you very much, Dylan Boucher, CEO or Basketball New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
This is big.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Tall back's doing well. The white ferns stinking the joint up.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That's overseas play for you.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Hey, that is it for the program. Thanks so much
or your crew for ringing through even the ones that
probably really didn't get the traction they wanted, so be it.
Heaps of texts, can't read them all. I'd much prefer
to hear your voice, So sorry if I haven't read
your texts out, so be it. I love the fact
you're dining in and listening to the program. I've just
(42:15):
cover off a few. There's quite a few texts who
still can't work out why Ethan black At it wasn't
in the side you let us chance. Ben Finow played
one test in Donedan under the roof last year against Australia,
scored a try replicate and as I said, this is
(42:37):
a safe enough selection. Bit a continuity in there. I
don't think Razor wants to shake up the world and
test number one. He just wants to build sensible care
from a man that people call nuts. God like that
and it's middic. Thanks for producing. Thanks to everyone for calling,
for texting, for listening, for hating, for spitting, for shouting.
(42:57):
I'm Darcy Watergrave and I'm going home.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
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