July 5, 2024 • 43 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting day in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
NZ Rugby CEO Mark Robinson on the All Blacks v England test and start of the international season.
Talkback - Who is the key player for the All Blacks for you on Saturday? Who needs to fire?
Tennis commentator Craig Gabriel breaking down the action from the first week of Wimbledon.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Dancy Waldergrave
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hello, there, it's Test to Eve. Indeed, it is twenty
four hours from now, give it take a couple of minutes.
All Blacks take on the might I'm trying to say
about laughing, the might of that's called the might of
England that may come back to bite me in the
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first Test match of fourteen throughout the twenty twenty four season. Wow,
we're going to talk about that tonight, you and me
and everybody else on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Towards the e to the program, we'll have a chen
wag with Craig Gabriel, who joins us from Wimbledon. I
believe the rain is a coming and we might not
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get much playing today. We'll talk about what happens today
and of course Lulu Sun how well she's going as well.
But to kick things off, we're joined now by CEO
of n z Are, mister Mark Robinson. Hanging there, Mark,
because before we get to you, we're going to do
this today that in sport today he won't call it discipline,
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but ab skipper Scott Barrett has framed their focus with
a similar construct.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, we've talked about accuracy. That's the word we've used.
That's talking about our skill set and what's required in
a combative game that we play. So that's been our
focus and our height with that is another key factor.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, and referee Nika Amasha Kelly whistled a happy tune
when he oversaw the All Blacks last last in twenty
two six penalties be Afraid, be very Afraid to All
Black's coach Pure Cameron has laid out the issue with
his Chargers after a Donchet driven Slovenia put a sword
(02:20):
through them to slay New Zealand Basketball's Olympic hopes. We
have plans and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And he's a great player and we respect him for that.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Football Firms Coaching Places Savor Michael Maine is confident that
Macy Fraser will lace up for the start of the
thirty third Olympiad in gaul.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Front of mine is always, you know, looking after our people,
making sure they can perform well. I'm really excited to
get Macy over to France. We've been in contact, had
a number of conversations she's ready to come over and work.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And Latrell Merchell, she should have seen this. He helped
us at Sydney Rabbits to come to the enough when
over the eels in the URL last night, interim coach
plenty of them on the show today, interim coach being
Hornby wasn't pressed with his off the boar efforts as
well as his attack defensively so strong.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I don't know if people really realize the impact he
has because we're always talking about his attack.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But he's doing a great job and he showed to
know why he's our fullback.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Noise and that's sports today.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We're joined it now by Mark Robinson, CEO of New
Zealand Rugby. As we look toward the start of what
will be and I keep using this word mark and
epic season. There is so much to look forward to.
It really is a clean slate, is it not. You
must be stoked to be talking about this, the rugby
on the park, the coaches, the players, as opposed to
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any of that administrative stuff that's basically been haunting heads
that are for so long.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Hi Darcy, Yeah, and I'm great to be with the listeners.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Yeah, we are excited you know, I'm down and got
into Dunedin on on Wednesday night. The town's slowly filling up.
It feels like we've just come out of a few
meetings about to you know, get out and much a
bit of training like you say, and get around the
rugby and checking with our team.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
So lot. We are really excited.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
This is an amazing series to start off a new
regime of management and raises tenure as coach and also
for the exciting new talent was' see comes through as well.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And then you extend into the season.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I'm sure you want to talk about the other things
we're doing in the States and Rugby Championship as well,
and any of your tour is a massive, massive tour
with the my tiner, we have so lots to look
forward to and get excited about for the punters.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So how complicit have you been with the actual players
and the coaching stuff. Do you get in and maybe
have a chat or the contribute anything or is it
a case of I'm just going to stay well away
from you guys on what you call the fishhead, I've
got no place.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Well, yeah, I guess having been a former player, I
understand you know what the environments are like pretty well, look,
I spent a little bit of time here and there
that the team has some social connection time I'm through
the week, I try to get into that. I catch
up with the management occasionally if they have a weekly
dinner I'll put my head in and obviously with them,
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you know, after the games, and try to get to.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
The odd training.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
So yeah, I try to be around where I can, Darcy,
but certainly certainly not in any way other than being
supportive in general and you know, just just being around
to show that we really care and a writing behind
this group. Certainly no advice on selection tactics or anything
like that. I'm well past that and my technical rugby
knowledge now. When I listen to you know, some of
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these guys talk about it, it truly feels like a
different game from my day. But definitely there to support
them and make sure they've got everything they need to succeed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Must be great now that Scott Robinson's actually in the
seats Mark Robinson, it's been a long time that he's
been waiting. There were issues around the way he was appointed,
but that is revision mirror stuff. Now it's all about
looking to what Scott can do in this role. He's
been in front of the media. Now he's sleepd to
a squad and his team. How satisfied are you with
the way he's handle what is a pretty explosive start
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to the season before we've even played today.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Oh look, he's done an outstanding job coming in.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
If you go back to the end of last year,
he obviously spent time with the board and stakeholders before Christmas,
set out a bit of a plan and a vision
for how he was going to take the role on
and how he saw the leadership of the All Blacks
into this year. You know, him and I have spent
a bit of time in the Northern Hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
With our partners.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Again, he's been very open and accessible around the media
without sort of diminishing the airtime that we needed to
create to give to Super Rugby, you know, to be
a really prominent competition as it has been in a
really strong success. And you know, I guess as the
start of the English series has gotten closer, he's really
narrative focus around, as you say, selection and preparation and
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getting team ready, which he should do.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
So I look, we're really really happy.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
You look at the way him and his team are
integrating across all of our national teams. That's really outstanding.
We've had Leon and Jace Ryan away with the twenties
during the Rugby Championship. Great result from them, you know,
overnight beating France in a big match in South Africa.
So he's seeing some of the benefits of that alignment
coming through that. Others are those coaches in with the
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sevens teams as well. So lots of alignment, lots of connection,
which Rais talks about a lot and a lot of
work to make sure the rugby side of the program
is really well joined up. So looking forward to seeing
them get out there now and I think the whole
country is and that's really exciting to us.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You said regime, interesting choice of words for Razor. How
has this changed from what you can see under and
I won't say regime, but under Ian Foster's control. Has
there been any market difference in the way this has
been handled, approached, looked after? Have you moved forward from
that last coaching group.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Oh, look, I think you know the way you framed
it before, Darcy. You know, people know about the background
of that and we are focused on going forward. But
a lot of the stuff I've described and raises six
months is has been really energizing for the organization and
the game, and I think a lot of our stakeholders
the way they've engaged with Super Rugby, the way.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
They've engaged with the media.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You know, we're focusing on them now and it's their
time and we have a huge amount of respect for
the people that have gone before, both on and off
the field, around the All Blacks over a large period
of time, and that will always be the case.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
But this is the evolution of the.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Team and the environment and as I say, we're looking
forward to really supporting them make the most of their journey.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You touched Mark Robinson on Super Rugby and the success
we've seen viewing numbers. People are turning up to gains,
people have got their eyeballs back on the screens again.
This is great news for New Zealand rugby. A Super
Rugby is on a bit of a stagger right now.
So what do you attribute to why do you think
things have picked up in that viewership, in that attendance space.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Well, we've been really open about how we see our
leadership role to help evolve the product on field. Arci
so that's been it's been really critical. You know, people
got to love the game and what we saw was
you know, more bored and play time, less intervention, you know,
the game speeding up, high degrees of tempo, amazing sweeping movements.
And then on top of that, we saw some great
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storylines in the competition about uncertainty of.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Results each weekend.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
You know, there's clearly a change up in the in
the teams competing for that top six and eight. Every
every week it felt like we saw emerging talent come through.
There's you know, every cycle we go through at this time,
you know, people question the depth and talent in New
Zealand rugby, and yet we saw another group of young
athletes come through who not only performed on the field,
but are really great people off it, and we saw
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some insights into their.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Their character.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
So you know, there's just a whole lot of good
stuff hanging together and coming together at the right time.
And then we've got the commission up and running now
for Super Rugby, where we're hoping to drive a lot
more initiatives around marketing, communications and the way we promote
the competition as well. So you know, we just genuinely
hope we're at the start of some really good things
around the game.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But it's probably a number of things in combination rather
than any one thing that stand out to us.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Kevin Manloy I think has been extraordinarily helpful for Super
Rugby direct line, keen to talk about anything, and I
suppose to look mister Barlow as well and his involvement.
This has been very successful. It does Auger well basically
open up the communication lines and talk as opposed to
be behind closed doors. That's a deliberate move, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Mark Well, We you know, we think it's important to
give really direct focus for the competition, and you know,
we feel really proud about the way we've evolved quickly
to give the competition that direct sort of standalone entity
that can focus on a fair and sixty five days
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in the year twenty four to seven. As national unions,
we have a multitude of things going on at a
given time, but we've got really strong links in with Kevin,
you know, myself and Phil will sit on the board
of the Commission. So the national views are certainly certainly
coming through. But we've also got some great independent thinkers
and like I say that independent focus.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
With Jack Mesley coming on board very very soon.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
You know, we hope that this is just the start
of the difference that the Commission can make.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We'll joined by Mark Robinson, CEO of n z Epic
Season said it again, can't help myself a better get
that out of a vernacular, but fourteen test matches going
all over the globe, encompassing a number of different teams,
different venues. I'll go back to the eighties and use
the word KPI. What do you want out of this season?
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To look back at the end of the Northern Tour
at what you've done. What's the most important part of
this result? Obviously you've probably got a target there, but
what else do you need to achieve as the union
over the next eight months.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Well, we're obviously always looking to succeed on the field,
aren't we. So you know, you're right that's sort of
a given for any of our teams in black in
our national programs. But you know, we've certainly given the
team here a large amount of games, fourteen fixtures with
a challenging schedule, and we just felt that was important
to help bid this new group in in terms of
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the management team and also the playing group which has
a degree of newness to it as well, so you know,
all the time they can get together at this stage
in a World Cup cycle is really important. But you know,
notwithstanding that as standalone set of fixtures, it's really important
we do well and perform well around the Bleederslow Cup
in the Rugby Championship, and we want to go to
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the Northern Hemisphere and and really expose the team to
some of those amazing stadiums up there. So look, there's
there's certainly results that we look to, but we also
look for growth, building cohesion, you know, building continuity across
our environments and and just an opportunity is a bit
of a spring board, as I said before, for this
new group.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Forget the refs call. You make a call on eight
Sports talk on your home of sport. These talks be.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's CEO there of Enzea. Mark Robinson looking ahead to
fourteen Test matches for the All Blacks end the season
starting roughly this time tomorrow, that first up match against England.
I think I know what we all want out of
this year. It's probably pointless me asking you that we
just want to want one after when after one after?
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Women off, fuzzy, that's all we're after. But let's look
to tomorrow. Let's look to the players on the park.
Let's look to who are you going to be looking to?
If that sentence made any sense, out of all the
players that are out there, the weight on which player
in particular fascinates you the most? For them guys to
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start with eight of them eventually get on. Is there
any one figure that you look to and go, this
is on you. You are the not necessarily the losing
of the game, but possibly the winning of the game.
Who is your go to? All black tomorrow and let
me know why? Plenty of players to choose from on
let you know mine shortly, and then I'd like you
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Focus on one particular player. Wait, it might be an Englishman. Actually,
I think about it. I'm sure there are plenty of
visiting English fans here and if you're listening, hi, I'm
Darcy eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Is there particular a
player that you're going to be fully focused on? On
your side? Plainly most of the listeners are from New Zealand,
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so I ask your all Black preferences when it comes
to that, get a Conrad, how are you?
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (16:20):
Good, thanks Darcy, Yes, Steven para Fitter the most. I
mean it's not quite rather Fid visit the West Indies
in the nineteen eighty but what a bat isn't a
fire for him? I mean, like England had traditionally been
a very good technical kicking side. You've got Taliah Reef
and Para Fetter at the back. I think we could
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have an absolute kick fist on our hands. I think
you've got to understand this is how a lot of
an orthanity of players teams play, especially there plush. So
I just think he'll be under pressure to yeah, but
technically a kick well and just be under the pump.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Is there an obvious point about those back three Conrad
around their height?
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Well, I'm just concerned that there could be a lot
of box kicking possibly. I mean here's an example in
which case. I mean recently they're exciting on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Can they climb if anyone's listening to me, know how
do they climb in?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Per Fitter is very petal, Fit is very good under
the high ball. But I wonder became a target I
don't know, Conrad.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Thanks for much for that, yeah, Ki.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Twenty five minutes after seven. The most important player for you,
be it in the English side or in the New
Zealand side, who do you look at? Who do you
think is going to be the talismanic player for either side.
It's a pretty good point there made by comrade around
pedal Fifter and what he can or can't achieve in
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the trial by fire. No, it's definitely not a case
of Rutherford versa Windy's. I don't think you have a
scarier trial at an international career than that. Myself, I definitely, utterly,
absolutely look to Captain Scott Barrett by far and away
to me is the most important guy on the park
and most important guy for a number of reasons. He's
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spoken today about adhering to the culture of discipline within
the site, and yet we know that he's had two
red cards. One of them was a collection of yellows
that caused to read. The other one was was a
high shot on Michael Hooper about I know four years ago,
five years ago was a while ago now, and yet
he's been prone to a couple in super rugby. I
get that, but his ability to not only achieve his
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core roles. We know that that always gets drummed out.
Do your core roles. Get that right, and then everything
else is just a bonus. We need that from him,
but his ability to stay calm under pressure, his ability
to lead his men through uncomfortable spaces if that happens,
and his ability to keep a cap on himself and
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not tempt this referee to wield the card. Now, last
time this bloke referee six penalties slotted over and that
was the winning of the game twenty five to eighteen,
two tries to one. But it was the ill discipline
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of the all Black side that cost them that win. Now,
you could put a bit of that down to if
you want interpretation, but don't tempt the referee to get
his card out. He was a Northern Hemisphere refremember, is
from Georgia. So if you do that, you are you
are dicing. And if a player is sent from the park,
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it's scary so early in the season and you're thinking, oh, Darcy,
you're being a doomsday merchant. You're focusing on the misery.
Why don't you look at the positive, Why don't you
be uplifted? And I am because I'm really excited. I
think this team has the making of something quite brilliant.
I still think it's a vaguely conservative selection from Scott Robinson,
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but that's understandable. It's his first up test. This New
Zealand side have all been playing under what rules, under
what tweaks, under what variations of rugby over the last
few months Super rugby. It's been policed differently. It's got
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a few minor tweaks and adjustments around what you can
and can't do. Does this mean that the All Blacks
will maybe push the boundary but more or maybe not
play in the style that the Georgian referee is used to.
This is fascinating to me. So the leader on the parks,
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Scott Barrett, has got so much on his plate. Got
to maintain his discipline, his team's discipline. He's got to
adhere to a plan, planning of his core roles. We
know that that's the most important guy in the park.
But none for me yourself. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty
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Speaker 2 (22:07):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And that goes to the English players as well. I
think there is a excuse me. I think there's a
couple of English players that your average rugby fan doesn't
know a great deal about, and they indeed could be
that as Bill McLaren said about Christian Cullen Jane Loom,
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who's the devil? We know Christian Cullen's the devil? We
don't he appeared on the scene and Walzer there are
players like that in England side that we don't know.
So they may well be launched on us. And they
may be. I won't say the end of the line,
but these will be some some pretty intense players to
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look forward to. Let's go back to the New Zealanders
though eight hundred and eighty ten eighty What New Zealand
players are key for you? We'll go to the text line.
Now we all know it's McKenzie Darcy. We all know
it's McKenzie.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I hate to say it, but I'd feel way more
comfortable if it was Morenger. And I'm a Chiefs fan.
I get the feeling that the English will target them,
will point their attack toward McKenzie to see if they
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can't up set the smaller man. And that's a really
good point made Mars. Thanks very much that about McKenzie
may being the guy, because of course if he is
a poor game as invisible, suddenly she's all on. I
still think it's Scott Barrett. If you'd like to challenge me,
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please do it. I'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I e.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty. Nicholas writes the most
valuable player will be a combination of Taylor and tuy
Plotu lineout's are the winning and the losing of games
of rugby, and that also necklace, So a combination of
two as opposed to an individual player. And how long
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Patrick two blot who can actually last on the park.
We are unsure about how long because he came back
early from injury. Another important player. Nigel agrees hericking Scott
Barrett is the most important bloke on the field now
the Texas Darcy and it's a mass of weekend for
all blacks. But please don't forget about our under twenties
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beating front yet that fascinating. I don't know if any
of you saw that. Got to the final the final
minute and the New Zealand player whose name escapes me,
was striking a penalty to win the game and they
called that had missed. They had to go back. It
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was a bit of a huddle in the middle, rewind
to take have a decent look and the official wrong.
The ball did skate inside the upright and the game
was won. A really strange way to end a game
of rugby. So be it that that player I was
talking about before, that winger, his name escaped me, but
the magic of the internet has found it forming now
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many they call him and Manuel Faye Roboso, fay Woboso.
This is a guy who they thought was going to
end up playing for Wales, but Borthwick managed to get
him back. He's an excitement machine, I'm well told, not
too dissimilar from Talaya and from Sevu Reese. I'm the
biggest man in the world, but flat out fast. That's
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someone definitely need to look forward to. And of course
so much pressure as well on Marcus Smith playing in
the ten jersey. What can he bring? Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty The most influential player would talk tennis
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coming up before the end of the program.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
Matt High Okody does Matt the total one eyed contemporan
And I'm saying Patrick, big petty, he's the most influential player,
and that he's good. He's a great play so one
guy in the blues. I just love watching play. He's
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a big man, and I know he's getting a suit
long in years, but this is his opportunity to stake
acclaim and an all black team for a few years
to come.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Wait, because he's been behind arguably two of the best
locks that have ever pulled on a jersey, right in white.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
And exactly and love gone as no No. I hope
he plays really well. I hope he's there a few
more years to come, maybe another World Cup and who
I'm interested in watching?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Fantastic Matt, Thanks very much for sharing one hundred and
eighty ten eighties at the front row. That does it
for you? One of the locks? What about are the
loose forwards, and there is a wee bit around some
of Penny female and how he is going to approach
the game. When there were folks saying, look, this is
an error. Blackadders should be playing in that role. And
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whether there have been can I say complaints, there have
been questions around females tackle technique and the speed with
which he gets on top of his player. He runs
it very close to the wind, which is frightening for
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the players trying to defend against him or trying to
attack when he's up in their face. Absolutely, but there's
a lot on him too. You've got to get that down.
It's a very fine line. Can he get that done?
We know about the first I think that the half
back and TJ. Pettina. We haven't got any worries there.
His combo with Mackenzie, the two centers only getting themselves
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sorted out. They've got a rhythm going on. Possibly there
was a thought that Ireka, you only maybe won't make
that mix under a new coach, but they've shown faith
in him and that burgeoning pairing of Jordi Barrett and
you won it. And then you go to the little
guys on the wing and we follow out the back
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and Stephen Petafetta. There are so much to look at,
so much to look at. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty lines are open. I'd love to hear about
your favorite player. I'll just run through a couple of
texts for you. Now, Barrett can't even get penalized. He's
under pressure and any discipline issues the public will tear
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him a new one. Steve, you're right and let's so
that's not over thought because it can be well like
an earworm song that won't go away, don't transgress, don't
get upset. Maybe he's not listening to the radio.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Chew.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Darcy Dylan. Here is Scott Barrett the most influential player
or potentially the biggest liability. It's amplified now he's the captain.
Ardie has consistently been the best all Black player for
the last three years. He is the talismanic leader. Which
was suggest to me, you're going to keep an eye
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on him. He's going to be the one. There's one
outstanding players player on another writes another he's a world
class player. His name is Marrow. He plays well if
he does, England win and he's one of the one
of the older guys, isn't he It's only older school
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in this English side because they've lost a lot of
Bulkan experience with the retirement the leaving of a couple
of their key players. So I think what a Toji
brings is going to be well worth looking at. Still,
what is he? He's still less than thirty. Isn't he?
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Big groving, scary lock? And you're right, this could be
one of the key players on both sides our eight
hundred and eighty. Ten eighty give us a call your
most influential player on the park tomorrow? Who will it be?
And why? And Dylan, just in response to your text,
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he could be the biggest liability, but that does mean
he could be the most influential player if it all
goes wrong, I don't think it will be. I think
it's influenced as a captain and a leader of men,
and a calming influence is going to be absolutely key.
It's on him to provide that. Ten eighty. This is
a sports talk and new sticks there b.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So I'm tancing with life course.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Severwhere I still see you the signs, so so.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I know what else I can So I'll give sports
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of the All Blacks. Tomorrow evening five past seven from
the Spakeston in Donedin, Elliott Smith leading the commentary. Charge
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you get amongst that quick text, I saw an interview
with Rico and he looked angry and focused, probably the
most angry and focus I've ever seen him. That gave
me hope. Nice to hear maybe we should take a
pause on the rugby union. In fact, yes we shall.
I'll rustle ut now. I'd say old friend, mainly because
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I've been talking to him for so long. He's our
tennis nomad globally. With all respect, Craig, you travel around
the world, bring us all the greatest tennis to our ears.
You're there in London in Wimbledon at the moment, looking
forward to well almost the start of week two, if
you will. It's getting it's getting twet, Craig, welcome to
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the show. Just give us the skinny. What's happened in
the first week? What have you seen?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Thanks Jaska to be with you again. Then, well, week
one it's been relatively straightforward. We've had a few upsets,
nothing overly dramatic. Yeah, as I said, just a couple
and I think really one of the highlights would be
would have been last night's farewell to Andy Murray and
his last wimbled and he's still got to play mixed
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doubles at this point anyway with Emma Radicanu. But he
and his brother Jamie lost their doubles on the center
court last night to the Australian's Rinky Hit Chikata and
John Pierce. And the reception that Andy got was pretty extraordinary,
standing ovation, the applause, the love there is for him,
and he's a good guy. He really is a good guy.
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And so many players came out, from Novak Djokovic right
down to John McEnroe made a line of honor, a
guard of honor for him for when he left the court.
But it was pretty emotional.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Let's look at the New Zealand entry. Lulu Soon has
really shaken things up, has she not. The women's straw
is always a bit fragile like that, you never quite know,
but with a couple of consecutive three set victories it
says a lot about her spine, about her fortitude, does it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Not, absolutely? And she's so new at this as well.
I've had the pleasure of speaking with her after her
last couple of results, and she's very she's very quiet.
I think it's because it's still all so new to her.
But at the same time, she's pretty responsive to questions
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about herself, how she's feeling and enjoying this situation. She
has got the opportunity now to reach the business end
of a major with an incredible bit of tennis history
for New Zealand. Because if she does win today against
ju Lynn, that's whether permitting as well. I can tell
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you it's pouring at the moment. She'll become the first
New Zealand woman to reach the fourth round at Wimbledon
since nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
The last Kiwi to reach the quarter oh sorry, the
fourth round of Wimbledon was Brett Stephen in nineteen ninety seven.
So it's it's an incredible achievement on her part and
it'll really skyrocket her world ranking to about mid seventies,
which is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's great for her because she's been selected as well
there on Routelouth to play tennis and the doubles four
news in and at the Olympics. It's all just coming
to hit, isn't it great?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah? Absolutely, and yesterday, the International Tennis Federation held their
press conference to talk about the Olympics and released the
entire list of competitors at this point from the various nations,
and I was actually, well, yes, I saw Lulu and
Aaron on the list for New Zealand on the women's side,
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but I was surprised that there was not a single
New Zealand man on the list, considering Daniel and Venus
were bronze medalists at the last Olympics in Tokyo.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Feature mattures of today, What are the ones that really
what are the ones that really pique your interest?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Craig.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, as I say, weather permitting, it's not very nice
outside today. Yesterday it was beautiful. Carlos Alcarazo. We're playing
Francis Tiafo on the center court, followed by Emma Radicanu
against Maria Sakari rad It kind of beat Sakary in
the semi finals of the US Open in twenty twenty
one and she won the US Open. And Janick Sinner,
(36:05):
who is my pick for to win Wimbledon, against Mina
mar Kusmanovitch, some of the others on court, just me
and Paulini, who is the French Open runner up. We
got Dmitrov Coco golf. This could be an interesting match
Tommy Paul against Alexander Public depends on what side of
the bad public gets up. And Daniel Medvedev also on
(36:26):
court today. But I think look as far as New
Zealand is concerned, attention is going to be on LULUs
and obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And Radakana win's that one, I believe if lu Lusun
gets through that next opponent.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, you can't look ahead in this game, and it's
just as it's a cliche, but the players will all
say it. It's one match at a time. You look
too far ahead and things can absolutely become undone.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well, I'm the media, so I'm allowed to do that, right, Craig.
That's how it rolls. And before are we head a
Kiwi and he's doing all right. He's got Zverev coming
up today as well. And of course as the palm
Cameron Nurri were stillinging on to that.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Hope, well exactly. I mean cam Nari had a very
good last night against Jack Draper, who's the new number
one British player, and I actually thought Draper would win
that because he's had great form lately he had a
winner for Carlos Alkhaz at Queen's Club just befre Wimbledon.
(37:27):
But cam who has been off the boil with his form,
certainly turned it on in that match on court one.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And with that, will you get back on with your
prep for what will be well, hopefully a busy day
or possibly a very wet day and an atmosphere i'd
suggest in London would be very interesting after the labor
Lane slide in the elite. It's a big old day.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Look, it certainly is. And it's obviously wall to wall
coverage on television with the results in the national election
from yesterday last night, and yes, it's going to be
quite a day today.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
Call is your call on eight eighty Sports Talk All
on your home of Sports US Talk.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Zivy A's Craig Gabriel. They're our nomadic tennis correspondent trapsing
all over the world bringing us the latest and the
latest from our catcut Land and we thank him as
always for his time just talking about that election. And
this is not sport, okay, call just cut me some
(38:33):
slack here. I know it's not sport. It's not about
the election specifically, although We've been very interested in the
way things have tumbled away for the ruling Tory party Conservatives.
Why do they call it a landslide victory? To labor,
landslides are terrible, death and destruction and chaos everywhere. Have
(38:55):
never quite understood that vernacular. If you can let me know,
please do seven minutes away from eight, just a couple
of if you'd like to ring through to all the
end of the program and give us the heads up
in your favorite all black player or the most influential
all black player in the exchange tomorrow at the Spateston.
Please do. We've got a couple of minutes left in
the program. Who can takes nineteen ninety two? That is
(39:17):
z B z B very interested. And what happened in
the announcement yesterday with One New Zealand becoming naming rights
sponsors for the new stadium in christ Church. It's quite
(39:38):
an interesting debate because as we know, we don't get
nice things if somebody doesn't pay for them, and in
this case the stadium was paid for by the rate
players right, it was also paid for by the government.
How comfortable are you? And it's a smart move from
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One New Zealand because they have got the naming rights
to this straight away will become commonly known as the
one New Zealand Stadium. So good on them for digging
into their back pocket and getting some cash out and
doing it. Seems odd to you, though, that something that
is funded and designed by us, the public, and it
(40:25):
is not named after anything to do with the city.
It's named for a Telco company. Now first then first
serve right, they got there all credit, get the money,
get in there, buy it. You'd be nuts not to.
It's going to be great advertising for ten years One
(40:46):
New Zealand Stadium because it will roll off people's lips,
they'll say it. Does anyone else feel a bit awkward
or a bit weird, weirded out by that? I get it.
Without money, we don't have nice things. Someone's got to
pay the bill somewhere, like the stadium into Needing the
Spats Tennis sponsored by some account. It's for sighted bart
(41:07):
cool get that. And because there is no history behind
the stadium in christ Church, it's probably hard to kick
back against it. Do you imagine if a company decided
to buy naming rights to Eden Park, how well that
would go down because of the history behind it that
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the mcg old Trafford lords that the list goes on.
So maybe because this is new, it's going to avoid
any negative consideration around the fact that the ratepayers and
(41:48):
the tax payers paid for the stadium, not the cell
phone company. Yet it will forever be known as One
New Zealand Stadium. It's just an interesting topic that I've
been musing about my tiny cabinist's mind. Can you have
a tiny cabinet? You just have a small cavern, not
a great big one about what that actually means? And
(42:14):
I'll say it again, absolutely commend One New Zellem for
doing what they've done. Well, No, it makes perfect sense.
Gone there, get the sponsorship for ten years. Wow, you
can't buy that kind of advertising. It's very smart, makes
perfect sense. Maybe if they'd call it the Takaha one
you sell in stadium, that would implicate some of the
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angry old men like me. We call it Jeff for
all I care, But Lancaster Park two point zero Takaha
was the original name. The car is actually the land
that's built on. That's what it comes from. Anyway, Just
a small musing from myself before I disappear off to
(42:57):
my scratcher and have a sleep back tomorrow morning or
spoil breakfast between that seven and nine when you focus
on all the cool sport that's coming up over the weekend,
and of course we'll look at the Earl Blacks. Have
a great evening. Thanks for producing against Middle says bye.
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
Hello, there, it's Test to Eve. Indeed, it is twenty
four hours from now, give it take a couple of minutes.
All Blacks take on the might I'm trying to say
about laughing, the might of that's called the might of
England that may come back to bite me in the
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first Test match of fourteen throughout the twenty twenty four season. Wow,
we're going to talk about that tonight, you and me
and everybody else on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Towards the e to the program, we'll have a chen
wag with Craig Gabriel, who joins us from Wimbledon. I
believe the rain is a coming and we might not
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get much playing today. We'll talk about what happens today
and of course Lulu Sun how well she's going as well.
But to kick things off, we're joined now by CEO
of n z Are, mister Mark Robinson. Hanging there, Mark,
because before we get to you, we're going to do
this today that in sport today he won't call it discipline,
(01:39):
but ab skipper Scott Barrett has framed their focus with
a similar construct.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, we've talked about accuracy. That's the word we've used.
That's talking about our skill set and what's required in
a combative game that we play. So that's been our
focus and our height with that is another key factor.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, and referee Nika Amasha Kelly whistled a happy tune
when he oversaw the All Blacks last last in twenty
two six penalties be Afraid, be very Afraid to All
Black's coach Pure Cameron has laid out the issue with
his Chargers after a Donchet driven Slovenia put a sword
(02:20):
through them to slay New Zealand Basketball's Olympic hopes. We
have plans and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't,
you know.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And he's a great player and we respect him for that.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Football Firms Coaching Places Savor Michael Maine is confident that
Macy Fraser will lace up for the start of the
thirty third Olympiad in gaul.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Front of mine is always, you know, looking after our people,
making sure they can perform well. I'm really excited to
get Macy over to France. We've been in contact, had
a number of conversations she's ready to come over and work.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And Latrell Merchell, she should have seen this. He helped
us at Sydney Rabbits to come to the enough when
over the eels in the URL last night, interim coach
plenty of them on the show today, interim coach being
Hornby wasn't pressed with his off the boar efforts as
well as his attack defensively so strong.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I don't know if people really realize the impact he
has because we're always talking about his attack.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But he's doing a great job and he showed to
know why he's our fullback.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Noise and that's sports today.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
We're joined it now by Mark Robinson, CEO of New
Zealand Rugby. As we look toward the start of what
will be and I keep using this word mark and
epic season. There is so much to look forward to.
It really is a clean slate, is it not. You
must be stoked to be talking about this, the rugby
on the park, the coaches, the players, as opposed to
(03:45):
any of that administrative stuff that's basically been haunting heads
that are for so long.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Hi Darcy, Yeah, and I'm great to be with the listeners.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Yeah, we are excited you know, I'm down and got
into Dunedin on on Wednesday night. The town's slowly filling up.
It feels like we've just come out of a few
meetings about to you know, get out and much a
bit of training like you say, and get around the
rugby and checking with our team.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
So lot. We are really excited.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
This is an amazing series to start off a new
regime of management and raises tenure as coach and also
for the exciting new talent was' see comes through as well.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
And then you extend into the season.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I'm sure you want to talk about the other things
we're doing in the States and Rugby Championship as well,
and any of your tour is a massive, massive tour
with the my tiner, we have so lots to look
forward to and get excited about for the punters.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
So how complicit have you been with the actual players
and the coaching stuff. Do you get in and maybe
have a chat or the contribute anything or is it
a case of I'm just going to stay well away
from you guys on what you call the fishhead, I've
got no place.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Well, yeah, I guess having been a former player, I
understand you know what the environments are like pretty well, look,
I spent a little bit of time here and there
that the team has some social connection time I'm through
the week, I try to get into that. I catch
up with the management occasionally if they have a weekly
dinner I'll put my head in and obviously with them,
(05:15):
you know, after the games, and try to get to.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
The odd training.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
So yeah, I try to be around where I can, Darcy,
but certainly certainly not in any way other than being
supportive in general and you know, just just being around
to show that we really care and a writing behind
this group. Certainly no advice on selection tactics or anything
like that. I'm well past that and my technical rugby
knowledge now. When I listen to you know, some of
(05:38):
these guys talk about it, it truly feels like a
different game from my day. But definitely there to support
them and make sure they've got everything they need to succeed.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Must be great now that Scott Robinson's actually in the
seats Mark Robinson, it's been a long time that he's
been waiting. There were issues around the way he was appointed,
but that is revision mirror stuff. Now it's all about
looking to what Scott can do in this role. He's
been in front of the media. Now he's sleepd to
a squad and his team. How satisfied are you with
the way he's handle what is a pretty explosive start
(06:09):
to the season before we've even played today.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Oh look, he's done an outstanding job coming in.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
If you go back to the end of last year,
he obviously spent time with the board and stakeholders before Christmas,
set out a bit of a plan and a vision
for how he was going to take the role on
and how he saw the leadership of the All Blacks
into this year. You know, him and I have spent
a bit of time in the Northern Hemisphere.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
With our partners.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Again, he's been very open and accessible around the media
without sort of diminishing the airtime that we needed to
create to give to Super Rugby, you know, to be
a really prominent competition as it has been in a
really strong success. And you know, I guess as the
start of the English series has gotten closer, he's really
narrative focus around, as you say, selection and preparation and
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getting team ready, which he should do.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
So I look, we're really really happy.
Speaker 7 (07:01):
You look at the way him and his team are
integrating across all of our national teams. That's really outstanding.
We've had Leon and Jace Ryan away with the twenties
during the Rugby Championship. Great result from them, you know,
overnight beating France in a big match in South Africa.
So he's seeing some of the benefits of that alignment
coming through that. Others are those coaches in with the
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sevens teams as well. So lots of alignment, lots of connection,
which Rais talks about a lot and a lot of
work to make sure the rugby side of the program
is really well joined up. So looking forward to seeing
them get out there now and I think the whole
country is and that's really exciting to us.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
You said regime, interesting choice of words for Razor. How
has this changed from what you can see under and
I won't say regime, but under Ian Foster's control. Has
there been any market difference in the way this has
been handled, approached, looked after? Have you moved forward from
that last coaching group.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Oh, look, I think you know the way you framed
it before, Darcy. You know, people know about the background
of that and we are focused on going forward. But
a lot of the stuff I've described and raises six
months is has been really energizing for the organization and
the game, and I think a lot of our stakeholders
the way they've engaged with Super Rugby, the way.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
They've engaged with the media.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You know, we're focusing on them now and it's their
time and we have a huge amount of respect for
the people that have gone before, both on and off
the field, around the All Blacks over a large period
of time, and that will always be the case.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
But this is the evolution of the.
Speaker 7 (08:39):
Team and the environment and as I say, we're looking
forward to really supporting them make the most of their journey.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You touched Mark Robinson on Super Rugby and the success
we've seen viewing numbers. People are turning up to gains,
people have got their eyeballs back on the screens again.
This is great news for New Zealand rugby. A Super
Rugby is on a bit of a stagger right now.
So what do you attribute to why do you think
things have picked up in that viewership, in that attendance space.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Well, we've been really open about how we see our
leadership role to help evolve the product on field. Arci
so that's been it's been really critical. You know, people
got to love the game and what we saw was
you know, more bored and play time, less intervention, you know,
the game speeding up, high degrees of tempo, amazing sweeping movements.
And then on top of that, we saw some great
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storylines in the competition about uncertainty of.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Results each weekend.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
You know, there's clearly a change up in the in
the teams competing for that top six and eight. Every
every week it felt like we saw emerging talent come through.
There's you know, every cycle we go through at this time,
you know, people question the depth and talent in New
Zealand rugby, and yet we saw another group of young
athletes come through who not only performed on the field,
but are really great people off it, and we saw
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some insights into their.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Their character.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
So you know, there's just a whole lot of good
stuff hanging together and coming together at the right time.
And then we've got the commission up and running now
for Super Rugby, where we're hoping to drive a lot
more initiatives around marketing, communications and the way we promote
the competition as well. So you know, we just genuinely
hope we're at the start of some really good things
around the game.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
But it's probably a number of things in combination rather
than any one thing that stand out to us.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Kevin Manloy I think has been extraordinarily helpful for Super
Rugby direct line, keen to talk about anything, and I
suppose to look mister Barlow as well and his involvement.
This has been very successful. It does Auger well basically
open up the communication lines and talk as opposed to
be behind closed doors. That's a deliberate move, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (10:45):
Mark Well, We you know, we think it's important to
give really direct focus for the competition, and you know,
we feel really proud about the way we've evolved quickly
to give the competition that direct sort of standalone entity
that can focus on a fair and sixty five days
(11:06):
in the year twenty four to seven. As national unions,
we have a multitude of things going on at a
given time, but we've got really strong links in with Kevin,
you know, myself and Phil will sit on the board
of the Commission. So the national views are certainly certainly
coming through. But we've also got some great independent thinkers
and like I say that independent focus.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
With Jack Mesley coming on board very very soon.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
You know, we hope that this is just the start
of the difference that the Commission can make.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We'll joined by Mark Robinson, CEO of n z Epic
Season said it again, can't help myself a better get
that out of a vernacular, but fourteen test matches going
all over the globe, encompassing a number of different teams,
different venues. I'll go back to the eighties and use
the word KPI. What do you want out of this season?
(11:54):
To look back at the end of the Northern Tour
at what you've done. What's the most important part of
this result? Obviously you've probably got a target there, but
what else do you need to achieve as the union
over the next eight months.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Well, we're obviously always looking to succeed on the field,
aren't we. So you know, you're right that's sort of
a given for any of our teams in black in
our national programs. But you know, we've certainly given the
team here a large amount of games, fourteen fixtures with
a challenging schedule, and we just felt that was important
to help bid this new group in in terms of
(12:32):
the management team and also the playing group which has
a degree of newness to it as well, so you know,
all the time they can get together at this stage
in a World Cup cycle is really important. But you know,
notwithstanding that as standalone set of fixtures, it's really important
we do well and perform well around the Bleederslow Cup
in the Rugby Championship, and we want to go to
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the Northern Hemisphere and and really expose the team to
some of those amazing stadiums up there. So look, there's
there's certainly results that we look to, but we also
look for growth, building cohesion, you know, building continuity across
our environments and and just an opportunity is a bit
of a spring board, as I said before, for this
new group.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Forget the refs call. You make a call on eight
Sports talk on your home of sport. These talks be.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
That's CEO there of Enzea. Mark Robinson looking ahead to
fourteen Test matches for the All Blacks end the season
starting roughly this time tomorrow, that first up match against England.
I think I know what we all want out of
this year. It's probably pointless me asking you that we
just want to want one after when after one after?
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Women off, fuzzy, that's all we're after. But let's look
to tomorrow. Let's look to the players on the park.
Let's look to who are you going to be looking to?
If that sentence made any sense, out of all the
players that are out there, the weight on which player
in particular fascinates you the most? For them guys to
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start with eight of them eventually get on. Is there
any one figure that you look to and go, this
is on you. You are the not necessarily the losing
of the game, but possibly the winning of the game.
Who is your go to? All black tomorrow and let
me know why? Plenty of players to choose from on
let you know mine shortly, and then I'd like you
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Speaker 3 (15:29):
Be that's twenty four past seven. Sports Talker and News
Talks EB lines are open. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
(15:51):
Focus on one particular player. Wait, it might be an Englishman. Actually,
I think about it. I'm sure there are plenty of
visiting English fans here and if you're listening, hi, I'm
Darcy eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Is there particular a
player that you're going to be fully focused on? On
your side? Plainly most of the listeners are from New Zealand,
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so I ask your all Black preferences when it comes
to that, get a Conrad, how are you?
Speaker 9 (16:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (16:20):
Good, thanks Darcy, Yes, Steven para Fitter the most. I
mean it's not quite rather Fid visit the West Indies
in the nineteen eighty but what a bat isn't a
fire for him? I mean, like England had traditionally been
a very good technical kicking side. You've got Taliah Reef
and Para Fetter at the back. I think we could
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have an absolute kick fist on our hands. I think
you've got to understand this is how a lot of
an orthanity of players teams play, especially there plush. So
I just think he'll be under pressure to yeah, but
technically a kick well and just be under the pump.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Is there an obvious point about those back three Conrad
around their height?
Speaker 10 (17:09):
Well, I'm just concerned that there could be a lot
of box kicking possibly. I mean here's an example in
which case. I mean recently they're exciting on the ground.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
But.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Can they climb if anyone's listening to me, know how
do they climb in?
Speaker 6 (17:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Per Fitter is very petal, Fit is very good under
the high ball. But I wonder became a target I
don't know, Conrad.
Speaker 9 (17:32):
Thanks for much for that, yeah, Ki.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Twenty five minutes after seven. The most important player for you,
be it in the English side or in the New
Zealand side, who do you look at? Who do you
think is going to be the talismanic player for either side.
It's a pretty good point there made by comrade around
pedal Fifter and what he can or can't achieve in
(17:55):
the trial by fire. No, it's definitely not a case
of Rutherford versa Windy's. I don't think you have a
scarier trial at an international career than that. Myself, I definitely, utterly,
absolutely look to Captain Scott Barrett by far and away
to me is the most important guy on the park
and most important guy for a number of reasons. He's
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spoken today about adhering to the culture of discipline within
the site, and yet we know that he's had two
red cards. One of them was a collection of yellows
that caused to read. The other one was was a
high shot on Michael Hooper about I know four years ago,
five years ago was a while ago now, and yet
he's been prone to a couple in super rugby. I
get that, but his ability to not only achieve his
(18:43):
core roles. We know that that always gets drummed out.
Do your core roles. Get that right, and then everything
else is just a bonus. We need that from him,
but his ability to stay calm under pressure, his ability
to lead his men through uncomfortable spaces if that happens,
and his ability to keep a cap on himself and
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not tempt this referee to wield the card. Now, last
time this bloke referee six penalties slotted over and that
was the winning of the game twenty five to eighteen,
two tries to one. But it was the ill discipline
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of the all Black side that cost them that win. Now,
you could put a bit of that down to if
you want interpretation, but don't tempt the referee to get
his card out. He was a Northern Hemisphere refremember, is
from Georgia. So if you do that, you are you
are dicing. And if a player is sent from the park,
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it's scary so early in the season and you're thinking, oh, Darcy,
you're being a doomsday merchant. You're focusing on the misery.
Why don't you look at the positive, Why don't you
be uplifted? And I am because I'm really excited. I
think this team has the making of something quite brilliant.
I still think it's a vaguely conservative selection from Scott Robinson,
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but that's understandable. It's his first up test. This New
Zealand side have all been playing under what rules, under
what tweaks, under what variations of rugby over the last
few months Super rugby. It's been policed differently. It's got
(20:30):
a few minor tweaks and adjustments around what you can
and can't do. Does this mean that the All Blacks
will maybe push the boundary but more or maybe not
play in the style that the Georgian referee is used to.
This is fascinating to me. So the leader on the parks,
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Scott Barrett, has got so much on his plate. Got
to maintain his discipline, his team's discipline. He's got to
adhere to a plan, planning of his core roles. We
know that that's the most important guy in the park.
But none for me yourself. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty
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Let me know, got some more texts for you or
unload them shortly. Nineteen nine two. That is z B
z B. It is huff past seven. This is sports talk,
Come on down a small three sports talking on new stalks.
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E B lines are open eight hundred eighty ten eighty
tix thoughts nineteen ninety two. That has z B z
B most important player for you?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Who is it?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And that goes to the English players as well. I
think there is a excuse me. I think there's a
couple of English players that your average rugby fan doesn't
know a great deal about, and they indeed could be
that as Bill McLaren said about Christian Cullen Jane Loom,
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who's the devil? We know Christian Cullen's the devil? We
don't he appeared on the scene and Walzer there are
players like that in England side that we don't know.
So they may well be launched on us. And they
may be. I won't say the end of the line,
but these will be some some pretty intense players to
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look forward to. Let's go back to the New Zealanders
though eight hundred and eighty ten eighty What New Zealand
players are key for you? We'll go to the text line.
Now we all know it's McKenzie Darcy. We all know
it's McKenzie.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I hate to say it, but I'd feel way more
comfortable if it was Morenger. And I'm a Chiefs fan.
I get the feeling that the English will target them,
will point their attack toward McKenzie to see if they
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can't up set the smaller man. And that's a really
good point made Mars. Thanks very much that about McKenzie
may being the guy, because of course if he is
a poor game as invisible, suddenly she's all on. I
still think it's Scott Barrett. If you'd like to challenge me,
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please do it. I'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I e.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty. Nicholas writes the most
valuable player will be a combination of Taylor and tuy
Plotu lineout's are the winning and the losing of games
of rugby, and that also necklace, So a combination of
two as opposed to an individual player. And how long
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Patrick two blot who can actually last on the park.
We are unsure about how long because he came back
early from injury. Another important player. Nigel agrees hericking Scott
Barrett is the most important bloke on the field now
the Texas Darcy and it's a mass of weekend for
all blacks. But please don't forget about our under twenties
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beating front yet that fascinating. I don't know if any
of you saw that. Got to the final the final
minute and the New Zealand player whose name escapes me,
was striking a penalty to win the game and they
called that had missed. They had to go back. It
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was a bit of a huddle in the middle, rewind
to take have a decent look and the official wrong.
The ball did skate inside the upright and the game
was won. A really strange way to end a game
of rugby. So be it that that player I was
talking about before, that winger, his name escaped me, but
the magic of the internet has found it forming now
(25:23):
many they call him and Manuel Faye Roboso, fay Woboso.
This is a guy who they thought was going to
end up playing for Wales, but Borthwick managed to get
him back. He's an excitement machine, I'm well told, not
too dissimilar from Talaya and from Sevu Reese. I'm the
biggest man in the world, but flat out fast. That's
(25:46):
someone definitely need to look forward to. And of course
so much pressure as well on Marcus Smith playing in
the ten jersey. What can he bring? Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty The most influential player would talk tennis
with Craig Gabriel, our tennis correspondent from Womenedon. He'll be
coming up before the end of the program.
Speaker 9 (26:06):
Matt High Okody does Matt the total one eyed contemporan
And I'm saying Patrick, big petty, he's the most influential player,
and that he's good. He's a great play so one
guy in the blues. I just love watching play. He's
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a big man, and I know he's getting a suit
long in years, but this is his opportunity to stake
acclaim and an all black team for a few years
to come.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Wait, because he's been behind arguably two of the best
locks that have ever pulled on a jersey, right in white.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
And exactly and love gone as no No. I hope
he plays really well. I hope he's there a few
more years to come, maybe another World Cup and who
I'm interested in watching?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Fantastic Matt, Thanks very much for sharing one hundred and
eighty ten eighties at the front row. That does it
for you? One of the locks? What about are the
loose forwards, and there is a wee bit around some
of Penny female and how he is going to approach
the game. When there were folks saying, look, this is
an error. Blackadders should be playing in that role. And
(27:20):
whether there have been can I say complaints, there have
been questions around females tackle technique and the speed with
which he gets on top of his player. He runs
it very close to the wind, which is frightening for
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the players trying to defend against him or trying to
attack when he's up in their face. Absolutely, but there's
a lot on him too. You've got to get that down.
It's a very fine line. Can he get that done?
We know about the first I think that the half
back and TJ. Pettina. We haven't got any worries there.
His combo with Mackenzie, the two centers only getting themselves
(28:07):
sorted out. They've got a rhythm going on. Possibly there
was a thought that Ireka, you only maybe won't make
that mix under a new coach, but they've shown faith
in him and that burgeoning pairing of Jordi Barrett and
you won it. And then you go to the little
guys on the wing and we follow out the back
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and Stephen Petafetta. There are so much to look at,
so much to look at. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty lines are open. I'd love to hear about
your favorite player. I'll just run through a couple of
texts for you. Now, Barrett can't even get penalized. He's
under pressure and any discipline issues the public will tear
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him a new one. Steve, you're right and let's so
that's not over thought because it can be well like
an earworm song that won't go away, don't transgress, don't
get upset. Maybe he's not listening to the radio.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Chew.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Darcy Dylan. Here is Scott Barrett the most influential player
or potentially the biggest liability. It's amplified now he's the captain.
Ardie has consistently been the best all Black player for
the last three years. He is the talismanic leader. Which
was suggest to me, you're going to keep an eye
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on him. He's going to be the one. There's one
outstanding players player on another writes another he's a world
class player. His name is Marrow. He plays well if
he does, England win and he's one of the one
of the older guys, isn't he It's only older school
(29:55):
in this English side because they've lost a lot of
Bulkan experience with the retirement the leaving of a couple
of their key players. So I think what a Toji
brings is going to be well worth looking at. Still,
what is he? He's still less than thirty. Isn't he?
(30:15):
Big groving, scary lock? And you're right, this could be
one of the key players on both sides our eight
hundred and eighty. Ten eighty give us a call your
most influential player on the park tomorrow? Who will it be?
And why? And Dylan, just in response to your text,
(30:36):
he could be the biggest liability, but that does mean
he could be the most influential player if it all
goes wrong, I don't think it will be. I think
it's influenced as a captain and a leader of men,
and a calming influence is going to be absolutely key.
It's on him to provide that. Ten eighty. This is
a sports talk and new sticks there b.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So I'm tancing with life course.
Speaker 8 (31:05):
Severwhere I still see you the signs, so so.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
I know what else I can So I'll give sports
look caring news talk Ze b Yeah, I'm a sport
of the All Blacks. Tomorrow evening five past seven from
the Spakeston in Donedin, Elliott Smith leading the commentary. Charge
(31:36):
you get amongst that quick text, I saw an interview
with Rico and he looked angry and focused, probably the
most angry and focus I've ever seen him. That gave
me hope. Nice to hear maybe we should take a
pause on the rugby union. In fact, yes we shall.
I'll rustle ut now. I'd say old friend, mainly because
(31:59):
I've been talking to him for so long. He's our
tennis nomad globally. With all respect, Craig, you travel around
the world, bring us all the greatest tennis to our ears.
You're there in London in Wimbledon at the moment, looking
forward to well almost the start of week two, if
you will. It's getting it's getting twet, Craig, welcome to
(32:22):
the show. Just give us the skinny. What's happened in
the first week? What have you seen?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Thanks Jaska to be with you again. Then, well, week
one it's been relatively straightforward. We've had a few upsets,
nothing overly dramatic. Yeah, as I said, just a couple
and I think really one of the highlights would be
would have been last night's farewell to Andy Murray and
his last wimbled and he's still got to play mixed
(32:49):
doubles at this point anyway with Emma Radicanu. But he
and his brother Jamie lost their doubles on the center
court last night to the Australian's Rinky Hit Chikata and
John Pierce. And the reception that Andy got was pretty extraordinary,
standing ovation, the applause, the love there is for him,
and he's a good guy. He really is a good guy.
(33:12):
And so many players came out, from Novak Djokovic right
down to John McEnroe made a line of honor, a
guard of honor for him for when he left the court.
But it was pretty emotional.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Let's look at the New Zealand entry. Lulu Soon has
really shaken things up, has she not. The women's straw
is always a bit fragile like that, you never quite know,
but with a couple of consecutive three set victories it
says a lot about her spine, about her fortitude, does it.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Not, absolutely? And she's so new at this as well.
I've had the pleasure of speaking with her after her
last couple of results, and she's very she's very quiet.
I think it's because it's still all so new to her.
But at the same time, she's pretty responsive to questions
(34:05):
about herself, how she's feeling and enjoying this situation. She
has got the opportunity now to reach the business end
of a major with an incredible bit of tennis history
for New Zealand. Because if she does win today against
ju Lynn, that's whether permitting as well. I can tell
(34:26):
you it's pouring at the moment. She'll become the first
New Zealand woman to reach the fourth round at Wimbledon
since nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
The last Kiwi to reach the quarter oh sorry, the
fourth round of Wimbledon was Brett Stephen in nineteen ninety seven.
So it's it's an incredible achievement on her part and
it'll really skyrocket her world ranking to about mid seventies,
which is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
It's great for her because she's been selected as well
there on Routelouth to play tennis and the doubles four
news in and at the Olympics. It's all just coming
to hit, isn't it great?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah? Absolutely, and yesterday, the International Tennis Federation held their
press conference to talk about the Olympics and released the
entire list of competitors at this point from the various nations,
and I was actually, well, yes, I saw Lulu and
Aaron on the list for New Zealand on the women's side,
(35:27):
but I was surprised that there was not a single
New Zealand man on the list, considering Daniel and Venus
were bronze medalists at the last Olympics in Tokyo.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Feature mattures of today, What are the ones that really
what are the ones that really pique your interest?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Craig.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Well, as I say, weather permitting, it's not very nice
outside today. Yesterday it was beautiful. Carlos Alcarazo. We're playing
Francis Tiafo on the center court, followed by Emma Radicanu
against Maria Sakari rad It kind of beat Sakary in
the semi finals of the US Open in twenty twenty
one and she won the US Open. And Janick Sinner,
(36:05):
who is my pick for to win Wimbledon, against Mina
mar Kusmanovitch, some of the others on court, just me
and Paulini, who is the French Open runner up. We
got Dmitrov Coco golf. This could be an interesting match
Tommy Paul against Alexander Public depends on what side of
the bad public gets up. And Daniel Medvedev also on
(36:26):
court today. But I think look as far as New
Zealand is concerned, attention is going to be on LULUs
and obviously.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And Radakana win's that one, I believe if lu Lusun
gets through that next opponent.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, you can't look ahead in this game, and it's
just as it's a cliche, but the players will all
say it. It's one match at a time. You look
too far ahead and things can absolutely become undone.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Well, I'm the media, so I'm allowed to do that, right, Craig.
That's how it rolls. And before are we head a
Kiwi and he's doing all right. He's got Zverev coming
up today as well. And of course as the palm
Cameron Nurri were stillinging on to that.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Hope, well exactly. I mean cam Nari had a very
good last night against Jack Draper, who's the new number
one British player, and I actually thought Draper would win
that because he's had great form lately he had a
winner for Carlos Alkhaz at Queen's Club just befre Wimbledon.
(37:27):
But cam who has been off the boil with his form,
certainly turned it on in that match on court one.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And with that, will you get back on with your
prep for what will be well, hopefully a busy day
or possibly a very wet day and an atmosphere i'd
suggest in London would be very interesting after the labor
Lane slide in the elite. It's a big old day.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Look, it certainly is. And it's obviously wall to wall
coverage on television with the results in the national election
from yesterday last night, and yes, it's going to be
quite a day today.
Speaker 8 (38:06):
Call is your call on eight eighty Sports Talk All
on your home of Sports US Talk.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Zivy A's Craig Gabriel. They're our nomadic tennis correspondent trapsing
all over the world bringing us the latest and the
latest from our catcut Land and we thank him as
always for his time just talking about that election. And
this is not sport, okay, call just cut me some
(38:33):
slack here. I know it's not sport. It's not about
the election specifically, although We've been very interested in the
way things have tumbled away for the ruling Tory party Conservatives.
Why do they call it a landslide victory? To labor,
landslides are terrible, death and destruction and chaos everywhere. Have
(38:55):
never quite understood that vernacular. If you can let me know,
please do seven minutes away from eight, just a couple
of if you'd like to ring through to all the
end of the program and give us the heads up
in your favorite all black player or the most influential
all black player in the exchange tomorrow at the Spateston.
Please do. We've got a couple of minutes left in
the program. Who can takes nineteen ninety two? That is
(39:17):
z B z B very interested. And what happened in
the announcement yesterday with One New Zealand becoming naming rights
sponsors for the new stadium in christ Church. It's quite
(39:38):
an interesting debate because as we know, we don't get
nice things if somebody doesn't pay for them, and in
this case the stadium was paid for by the rate
players right, it was also paid for by the government.
How comfortable are you? And it's a smart move from
(40:02):
One New Zealand because they have got the naming rights
to this straight away will become commonly known as the
one New Zealand Stadium. So good on them for digging
into their back pocket and getting some cash out and
doing it. Seems odd to you, though, that something that
is funded and designed by us, the public, and it
(40:25):
is not named after anything to do with the city.
It's named for a Telco company. Now first then first
serve right, they got there all credit, get the money,
get in there, buy it. You'd be nuts not to.
It's going to be great advertising for ten years One
(40:46):
New Zealand Stadium because it will roll off people's lips,
they'll say it. Does anyone else feel a bit awkward
or a bit weird, weirded out by that? I get it.
Without money, we don't have nice things. Someone's got to
pay the bill somewhere, like the stadium into Needing the
Spats Tennis sponsored by some account. It's for sighted bart
(41:07):
cool get that. And because there is no history behind
the stadium in christ Church, it's probably hard to kick
back against it. Do you imagine if a company decided
to buy naming rights to Eden Park, how well that
would go down because of the history behind it that
(41:27):
the mcg old Trafford lords that the list goes on.
So maybe because this is new, it's going to avoid
any negative consideration around the fact that the ratepayers and
(41:48):
the tax payers paid for the stadium, not the cell
phone company. Yet it will forever be known as One
New Zealand Stadium. It's just an interesting topic that I've
been musing about my tiny cabinist's mind. Can you have
a tiny cabinet? You just have a small cavern, not
a great big one about what that actually means? And
(42:14):
I'll say it again, absolutely commend One New Zellem for
doing what they've done. Well, No, it makes perfect sense.
Gone there, get the sponsorship for ten years. Wow, you
can't buy that kind of advertising. It's very smart, makes
perfect sense. Maybe if they'd call it the Takaha one
you sell in stadium, that would implicate some of the
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angry old men like me. We call it Jeff for
all I care, But Lancaster Park two point zero Takaha
was the original name. The car is actually the land
that's built on. That's what it comes from. Anyway, Just
a small musing from myself before I disappear off to
(42:57):
my scratcher and have a sleep back tomorrow morning or
spoil breakfast between that seven and nine when you focus
on all the cool sport that's coming up over the weekend,
and of course we'll look at the Earl Blacks. Have
a great evening. Thanks for producing against Middle says bye.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
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