July 11, 2024 • 7 mins
All Black Flanker Dalton Papalii joined D'Arcy Waldegrave to discuss the side named to play England at Eden Park.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be I'll join now on News Talks e B
by Papa Lee ahead of what Well, they're all keep
test matches, aren't they. You can't say this is our
key because they all are.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. You heard test match footy
is there's always up there with some of the most
physical games you play. So Test match coming up against
England and they're going to really throw the kitchen sink
at us, so looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, they'll be failthy too. At one point last they'll
be going, what did we do? We had that but
they didn't, So how do they suppose focus that rage?
You've been in the same position, what would you do?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'll just try to, you know, try to break down
the game where we went wrong and try fixing those areas.
But at the end of the day, you know it
was a tight game, and you know a few cares
could have gone their way, but I would have I
would really break down the game and see where areas
where we can probably just fix up a little bit.
And I think they're for me personally. I think they're
going to come with the breakdown a little bit harder
(01:01):
than usual, so it's going to be a pretty pretty
tough fight there.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So it came pretty hard as it is. They do
you think they were battoning off all you but Doulton,
I think they looked like they really knew what they
were doing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I think, like I said before, it could have
gone either way, and the breakdown was physical and their
forwards really tested us. And it's a good thing because
you know, it's our first test together, you know, new players,
whole new management. So I think we I think we
were expecting it, but you know, we even said in
our review that the second test match is always a
(01:32):
bit harder because you know, you sort of the first
game you get a feeling for each other, and now
the second game that you can really, you know, sort
of pick at the areas where they think. It's a
bit of a struggle for us, but at the end
of the day, looking forward to it and I want
to see the areas there we can improve and so yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, the Irish rolled the all blacks and the second
test the Lines did a few years ago as well,
So the second test is an area of vulnerability because
you both tested each other out. You know your whole
So let's look at your own game. Where do you
think you have to life? What's razor? Jason and the
Light told you, No.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's just about around our game making sure we get
boys in the road positions because you know, like I said,
it's a whole new game plan that we we're adjusting to.
And I think in that in their first game against England,
there was some boys out of position and all that,
but I think we still get in clarity of where
we are. But I think the boys are pretty confident
where we should be on the field and putting the
ball in the right spot. So the good thing is
(02:27):
we have guys that you know, our attack leaders body
Bear d Mac you know, Jordie Barrett and all that
leading the big boys and the forwards around the paddock,
and their communication is key and I think their top
class in that area and that just sort of helps us.
So when those boys are firing, I think the whole
team is Dalton.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How do you reckon that? You? Lucy said as far
as setting platforms when it came to Damien mckein's and
do you think you gave him enough room? Are you
happy in that space? Or could there be more?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh, they can always be more. You know, like some
areas where we think we're a bit a bit slow
and we get be improven, but then sometimes if we
get the other the good stuff you were doing and
you sort of go away from it. So it's just
trying to board a ball consistent level around all those
areas and making sure we're we're finishing in those areas.
That's a big key thing that Ras always talks about
(03:14):
is finishing everything you do and doing it well. So
it's just making sure the areas where you know we
are working on where we're making sure we're getting better,
and that's that's by doing the trainings and getting our
trademarks and you start.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Findly even though it's terrible that TJ went down on
screaming where your your old mate from the Blues has
got the runny starting, so that's got to put fire
in your belly all the other Blues bellies, And of
course I'm as well.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent, and you know, I think TJ.
You know, it was a big loss losing him, but
that's the curse of the game. You know, there's always
going to be injuries and sorry, curse curse, mate, that's
a curse of the game. You know, you don't want
to have injuries. You know, yeah, you don't have injuries,
but it's a shit thing. But they always always happens,
and you know, I've had my fair share. But Finly
coming up. You know, he's a bloody good player and
(03:59):
he's a bit of a pest on the field and
off field as well. So in your design one hundred percent.
They talking a lot of shit, but that's good ship
and the good one thing with Finlay is that you
know he's he has that he has that mindset that
he always wants to bring the best out of everyone
and and he when he nails his detail and makes
everyone around him better. So as talking is top key.
(04:21):
You know, he makes sure boys are in the road position,
but you know, telling him to get around the corner
or to stay always filling in. So he's an awesome
player and I'm glad that there's a chance to go
out d and show what he's got.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Golton Papale He joins us. Great that they've stuck essentially
with exactly the same team you only change out of injury.
That's got to give you, guys some faith and some
strength that Razer knows what he wants and you guys
can only but learn from that last experience. There's nothing changed.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, and it's it's just boarding those new relationships with
the players. You know, we've all come from our own
superfranchises and and we all have different systems there. So
it's coming into this environment, learning the game plan, and
they're just building that. What's the word of synergy? You've
been boarding a bit of synergy between each other and
that's the that's the key and the first game, you know,
I think you can see we're a bit in some areas,
(05:07):
but now we sort of know what they expect of us,
the coaches, and we can we now go out there
and trust one another, trust one another and do our job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So yeah, well there's a coaching synergy too, isn't there
between yourself? As you mentioned, brand new coaching staff. Essentially
they're trying to work themselves out, they're trying to work
you out and vice versa. So a couple of weeks
in camp, now is that starting to not necessarily smooth,
but he's starting to feel that that biting.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I definitely do, and I know, a lot of
the boys have been talking about how we definitely feel
it like everything's bolding, you know, like fresh start. It's
always hard to get a gauge that we're at. But
I think to see the second week coming into here
sort of have the same you know, routines in place
now and we're getting we're getting pretty confident in this area.
So were the first time I came in. You know,
(05:53):
there was a bit of clutter, you know, a lot
of a lot of the coaches pushing this stuff. But
it's getting easier now because you're getting used to the terminology,
the structures and what they expect of you individually and
as a team. So it's good.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Razorre as loose as he is in training, is his
in real life? Is he's quite something else, isn't he?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I can't tell you that secret mane Oh come on, bro, No,
he's awesome, very easy. He adds adds a different personality
to the coaching stuff. You know, he comes in and
he's himself. That's a good thing. He doesn't hide behind,
you know, a mask or he eases himself and that's
a good thing. And you know he can be serious
at times, but he can also knows that we to
have a laugh, and that's probably what you want out
(06:31):
of a coach, you know, to can't be full steam
ahead code all the time and we come in here,
we get the work done, but you can also have
a little joke with him on the side. And that's
what players, you know, sort of respect and like.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I think that's a sort of vern kind of
they call him Sternon Vern, but it's also like mirthful Vern.
He keeps on reimpressing to me how much joy is
important part of the game. So that chug and on
that and the Blues you're playing at home. No pressure, mate,
it's going to be thirty years since the All Blacks
last role. Do you carry that? Do you ignore it?
How do you deal with that kind of pressure being
at home, being at your home ground, your last place.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know, this is my home and even for the Blues,
you know it just means it means a little bit
more when you play at home. This is your fortress.
But for the All Blacks, you know, that's that's a
legacy created by you know, the past players as well,
So you do carry a bit of weight there. But
at the end of the day, this is this is
just footy man. You put your best foot forward you
(07:23):
always do in this in the Black jersey, and you
want to keep it a fortress. So that's always going
to be our goal in the back of our mind.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Just don't use the word curse around all blacks. Dalton, Papa,
you're always good to catch up, my friend. You go
well get in the end cause of Ruckers Man.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Cheers made. Always appreciate with you mate.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be I'll join now on News Talks e B
by Papa Lee ahead of what Well, they're all keep
test matches, aren't they. You can't say this is our
key because they all are.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. You heard test match footy
is there's always up there with some of the most
physical games you play. So Test match coming up against
England and they're going to really throw the kitchen sink
at us, so looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, they'll be failthy too. At one point last they'll
be going, what did we do? We had that but
they didn't, So how do they suppose focus that rage?
You've been in the same position, what would you do?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'll just try to, you know, try to break down
the game where we went wrong and try fixing those areas.
But at the end of the day, you know it
was a tight game, and you know a few cares
could have gone their way, but I would have I
would really break down the game and see where areas
where we can probably just fix up a little bit.
And I think they're for me personally. I think they're
going to come with the breakdown a little bit harder
(01:01):
than usual, so it's going to be a pretty pretty
tough fight there.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So it came pretty hard as it is. They do
you think they were battoning off all you but Doulton,
I think they looked like they really knew what they
were doing.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, I think, like I said before, it could have
gone either way, and the breakdown was physical and their
forwards really tested us. And it's a good thing because
you know, it's our first test together, you know, new players,
whole new management. So I think we I think we
were expecting it, but you know, we even said in
our review that the second test match is always a
(01:32):
bit harder because you know, you sort of the first
game you get a feeling for each other, and now
the second game that you can really, you know, sort
of pick at the areas where they think. It's a
bit of a struggle for us, but at the end
of the day, looking forward to it and I want
to see the areas there we can improve and so yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, the Irish rolled the all blacks and the second
test the Lines did a few years ago as well,
So the second test is an area of vulnerability because
you both tested each other out. You know your whole
So let's look at your own game. Where do you
think you have to life? What's razor? Jason and the
Light told you, No.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's just about around our game making sure we get
boys in the road positions because you know, like I said,
it's a whole new game plan that we we're adjusting to.
And I think in that in their first game against England,
there was some boys out of position and all that,
but I think we still get in clarity of where
we are. But I think the boys are pretty confident
where we should be on the field and putting the
ball in the right spot. So the good thing is
(02:27):
we have guys that you know, our attack leaders body
Bear d Mac you know, Jordie Barrett and all that
leading the big boys and the forwards around the paddock,
and their communication is key and I think their top
class in that area and that just sort of helps us.
So when those boys are firing, I think the whole
team is Dalton.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
How do you reckon that? You? Lucy said as far
as setting platforms when it came to Damien mckein's and
do you think you gave him enough room? Are you
happy in that space? Or could there be more?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh, they can always be more. You know, like some
areas where we think we're a bit a bit slow
and we get be improven, but then sometimes if we
get the other the good stuff you were doing and
you sort of go away from it. So it's just
trying to board a ball consistent level around all those
areas and making sure we're we're finishing in those areas.
That's a big key thing that Ras always talks about
(03:14):
is finishing everything you do and doing it well. So
it's just making sure the areas where you know we
are working on where we're making sure we're getting better,
and that's that's by doing the trainings and getting our
trademarks and you start.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Findly even though it's terrible that TJ went down on
screaming where your your old mate from the Blues has
got the runny starting, so that's got to put fire
in your belly all the other Blues bellies, And of
course I'm as well.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent, and you know, I think TJ.
You know, it was a big loss losing him, but
that's the curse of the game. You know, there's always
going to be injuries and sorry, curse curse, mate, that's
a curse of the game. You know, you don't want
to have injuries. You know, yeah, you don't have injuries,
but it's a shit thing. But they always always happens,
and you know, I've had my fair share. But Finly
coming up. You know, he's a bloody good player and
(03:59):
he's a bit of a pest on the field and
off field as well. So in your design one hundred percent.
They talking a lot of shit, but that's good ship
and the good one thing with Finlay is that you
know he's he has that he has that mindset that
he always wants to bring the best out of everyone
and and he when he nails his detail and makes
everyone around him better. So as talking is top key.
(04:21):
You know, he makes sure boys are in the road position,
but you know, telling him to get around the corner
or to stay always filling in. So he's an awesome
player and I'm glad that there's a chance to go
out d and show what he's got.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Golton Papale He joins us. Great that they've stuck essentially
with exactly the same team you only change out of injury.
That's got to give you, guys some faith and some
strength that Razer knows what he wants and you guys
can only but learn from that last experience. There's nothing changed.
That's got to be good.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah, and it's it's just boarding those new relationships with
the players. You know, we've all come from our own
superfranchises and and we all have different systems there. So
it's coming into this environment, learning the game plan, and
they're just building that. What's the word of synergy? You've
been boarding a bit of synergy between each other and
that's the that's the key and the first game, you know,
I think you can see we're a bit in some areas,
(05:07):
but now we sort of know what they expect of us,
the coaches, and we can we now go out there
and trust one another, trust one another and do our job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So yeah, well there's a coaching synergy too, isn't there
between yourself? As you mentioned, brand new coaching staff. Essentially
they're trying to work themselves out, they're trying to work
you out and vice versa. So a couple of weeks
in camp, now is that starting to not necessarily smooth,
but he's starting to feel that that biting.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, I definitely do, and I know, a lot of
the boys have been talking about how we definitely feel
it like everything's bolding, you know, like fresh start. It's
always hard to get a gauge that we're at. But
I think to see the second week coming into here
sort of have the same you know, routines in place
now and we're getting we're getting pretty confident in this area.
So were the first time I came in. You know,
(05:53):
there was a bit of clutter, you know, a lot
of a lot of the coaches pushing this stuff. But
it's getting easier now because you're getting used to the terminology,
the structures and what they expect of you individually and
as a team. So it's good.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Razorre as loose as he is in training, is his
in real life? Is he's quite something else, isn't he?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I can't tell you that secret mane Oh come on, bro, No,
he's awesome, very easy. He adds adds a different personality
to the coaching stuff. You know, he comes in and
he's himself. That's a good thing. He doesn't hide behind,
you know, a mask or he eases himself and that's
a good thing. And you know he can be serious
at times, but he can also knows that we to
have a laugh, and that's probably what you want out
(06:31):
of a coach, you know, to can't be full steam
ahead code all the time and we come in here,
we get the work done, but you can also have
a little joke with him on the side. And that's
what players, you know, sort of respect and like.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So I think that's a sort of vern kind of
they call him Sternon Vern, but it's also like mirthful Vern.
He keeps on reimpressing to me how much joy is
important part of the game. So that chug and on
that and the Blues you're playing at home. No pressure, mate,
it's going to be thirty years since the All Blacks
last role. Do you carry that? Do you ignore it?
How do you deal with that kind of pressure being
at home, being at your home ground, your last place.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know, this is my home and even for the Blues,
you know it just means it means a little bit
more when you play at home. This is your fortress.
But for the All Blacks, you know, that's that's a
legacy created by you know, the past players as well,
So you do carry a bit of weight there. But
at the end of the day, this is this is
just footy man. You put your best foot forward you
(07:23):
always do in this in the Black jersey, and you
want to keep it a fortress. So that's always going
to be our goal in the back of our mind.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Just don't use the word curse around all blacks. Dalton, Papa,
you're always good to catch up, my friend. You go
well get in the end cause of Ruckers Man.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Cheers made. Always appreciate with you mate.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
It'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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