July 24, 2024 • 43 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting day in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
Ricki Herbert - Former All Whites Coach - On the Canadian Women's Football team spying on the Football Ferns.
Jonathan Jansen - CEO of Esports New Zealand - On the IOC deciding to create an Olympic Esports Games.
Michael Burgess - LIVE out of Paris.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
HI.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good evening, Welcome on in to Sports Talk. This is
News Talks c B. My name's Darcy Walter Grave. It's
six and a half after seven. It's Wednesday, twenty fourth
of July twenty twenty four. What have you got lined
up for you all today? Let me tell you to
forward the end of the program. We are going to
be talking to Michael Burgess in zid Herald at writer,
media specialist, multi media man. He's arrived in Paris. We'll
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talk to him about the vibe, the sense of occasion
and of course the trouble at meal with the Canadian
football team. That's Michael Burgess. Towards the end, we're talking
E sport as well. I know this sounds strange, that
bear with me. Jonathan Jansen, CEO of E Sports New Zealand.
It's going to be talking to us because the IOC
have decided that there's going to be an Olympic eesport
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games in Saudi Arabia next year. The future of sport.
We'll talk with Jonathan about that. Starting things off though
with Ricky Herbert, former All White former All Whites coach.
As we look at the issue around the Canadian football
team getting bustard flying a drone over the football ferns
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in training, would you believe it? How obvious? Quite frankly,
how incredibly stupid. Ricky Herbert joins us shortly to talk
about that up after that, we'll open the lines for
your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighteen and
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the Canadians actually cheating. Is it even cheating? And what's
sanctions to be thrown at them for that team? That's
all to come before any of that. How about a
whole lot of this sport today and in sport today
to Auckland clubs and the Sales NBL. They get nasty
tonight for the right to tack the Rams and Sunday's
Grand Final. Balance has been a focus for the Tatata Guard.
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Cam Glidden explains before tonight's bulls.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Stand off, finding a balance of getting rest and recovery
but also making sure we're prepared for this tough game ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
But it has been a challenge and I think.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We've addressed that we have to be aggressive when we
come out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The All Black Sevens leap into action at the Olympic
Games over night. Andrew new Stub has reflected on the
immense challenge of spending two years out of the picture
whilst recovering from consecutive ACL injuries to the same knee.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
David one hundred wouldn't been able to talk about them physios, doctors,
guys that looked after my mental health and things like that,
and also the team, like my mates and my family
that just helped me out so much and keep pushing
me all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Warrior skipper Mitch Barnett feels the pain of Adam Pompey,
the kicking center who's been wiped out for possibly the
rest of the NRL season after tearing a medial ligament
against Canberra. They didn't start the season there, and he
worked his way into the seventeen and into that left
center spot and even on the weekend I thought he
was he's looking very dangerous, but it's next man up
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mentality and the reigning four to meter medley world champion
swimmer Lewis Klearebert has kipped away from the Olympic hype
through his preparation in sunny New York.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I haven't felt any of the expectations of having to
swim and be a medallist for New Zealand. If that's
what the expectation is, you know, I've just been been
here and been getting ready to try some fast.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Cheers Lewis and that's Scott today. They joined it now
by Ricky Herbert, former All Whites coach and player. As
we look at this sensational start to the Olympics, the
Canadians have got caught with a drone over all. Sorry
football ferns training, Recky, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Mate, Thanks Darsie. Great to talk of course, football.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Will be the focus of yourself, being that you've got
quite a history in football. Don't think I need to
go through it. But the big football story today is
the spying of a drone by the Canadian national team
looking at the football ferns before they start on Friday morning.
This beggars belief, this story, doesn't it. I suppose first question,
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being a coach yourself, what do they hope to ascertain
from flying a drone over training? What can you actually build,
what can you get out of that?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
I wouldn't say it's complex, Darsie, but it's quite surreal,
isn't it. I guess, just the fundamental roles and responsibilities
of people, and you know, the an appropriate way of
doing things, I guess and seeking I guess that cutting edge.
I mean, I don't know exactly who's done it or
what that looks like, but the context of having a
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drone across and looking across other representative countries training sessions
is completely inappropriate, and I think it'll be interesting where
that that sort of story travels to.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
But I mean, what would you see? Well, I guess
you're going.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
To see or have the ability to see a range
of things depending on what that training session looks like.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Clearly secrets.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What would you see, like stand formation players that they're
going to go to. What would you pick up if
you were to be in that situation someone gave you
a tape, Ricky, what would you be looking for?
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a great point, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
I guess I'm not assuming that the drones flying around
the bottom of the players and being able to be
up close, but yeah, like I guess the proximity of
where it could get to whatever that looks like. Don't know,
haven't had the ability to do that, But look formation, yeah,
I think you're right. I mean, you could fly it
across whether Michael Mains got his team out and he
set it out and he's you know, whether or not
the drone can pick up players, you know from an
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identity perspective, and what that might look like.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
But I think system is probably more than anything. Really.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
I think, you know, the global world now gives you
the option to understand opposition players and where they play
and strengths and weaknesses, and you know that can be
analyzed across a whole range of videos, et cetera, and
scanning networks. But I guess just to hover something above
to give you that cutting edge, which I think is
completely inappropriate, But that would be probably the number one
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outcome if you were brave enough to take that chance.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
They detained the character concerned. As far as punishment goes,
cheating is cheating, right, whether it's at the Ben Johnson
end of the scale or at the scene of the scale.
Did they come down like a ton of bricks? What
kind of punished do you think the Olympic Games should
meet out to this Canadian side.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Yeah, what's going to be interesting, isn't it, I guess.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
And again I don't know the full depth of the situation,
but if it's somebody who's very much connected into that organization,
it's going to be interesting to see where that punishment lies.
Because I can't say I've heard to drones flying above
on regular basises. I think I shared with you before,
I think last twelve months. I think I heard something
about it somewhere in some sort of sport whatever that
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might have been, but it's not something that happens on
a regular basis. So it'll be interesting to see where
an Olympic committee sits with us and how vigilant they
are and you know, to to ensure that these things
don't occur again. And I see in you know, sort
of in our local press that primarily drones are banned completely,
So you know, we could be a fan who's going
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across to watch New Zealand play and flies across somebody
else's turf. You know we're going to be dealt with
that appropriately as well. So yeah, it could be reasonably severe,
to be fair, It.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Seemed strange though something so obvious as a drone would
be being used when, as you pointed out, the amount
of video playback facility, scouting everything else, You've got the
information you need. So it seems like a real stretch
to gun and what would be a minimal amount of invitation.
I'd stretch to say, it's stupid, recky.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Yeah, Look, I wouldn't disagree, Darcia, I think, and you've
nailed it.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I mean, I guess in my era we probably didn't
have quite the depth of staff that you have in
the modern era now, and would I would suggest that
you know, all the teams that are currently representing their
countries proudly at in Olympic Games would have in depth
analysis way prior to a few days out from a
training session and having something hovering.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
You know, I don't one hundred minute whatever it is above.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
The team that could be basically doing something that you're
going to have no benefit in seeing from a training session.
It might be just a warm up, it might be
a simple passing practice, it might be something completely different.
There might not be some strategic opportunity to view something.
So I wouldn't have thought way before this that you know,
the recognition of players and who's got strengths and weaknesses
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and how teams play. And I mean there's worldwide opportunities
to do that arci.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
So for me it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I suppose over arching recky we talk about the Canadians.
But what effect do you think this will have on
the football ferns?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Yeah, look, it'll be interesting probably either go one way
or the other. Dow See.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I think you know, you could look at it from
a players perspective to go, we've actually put some challenges
in front of this team.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
If they are up there putting a drone up and
they want.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
To see what we're doing, we're actually making a bit
of a statement to them.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
So it can have a dual effect. For me.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
I don't think I can only go back in my
playing career, I wouldn't have been a you kind of
look at it is kind of nothing. But like I say,
it could be a little bit twofold here where players go, Wow,
what's this. We're being looked at, we're being spied upon,
we're being You could kind of take it in that context,
or you could go somebody's trying to have a look
at us, so we must be doing something or we're
improving or we're looking better, or where we're going to
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be a challenge to this team, and they're quite clearly
worried about what we could do in performance in two
or three days time. So I'd be taking the ladder mate,
I'd be super positive to go.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I kind of think this team's worried about us.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To be fair, when you played, there were no such
things as drones, right.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Correct, But we might have.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
We might have had somebody sitting in a grandstand with
a pair of binoculars or something like that.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
But I'm not sure. I'm not sure it happened, but
it probably did at.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Some point some of the countries and teams we played.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For the DMO. We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
In sixteen minutes after seven. This is sports Talk itself
from all Whites coach and all White Ricky Herberts talking
around the bizarre, the odd, the curious situation where, for
some unknown reason, someone on the Canadian side decided that
flying a drone over top of the football ferns that
the training was a good idea. Like I shouldn't really
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laugh because essentially it is cheating. But at what end
of the scale is this cheating. I would say it's
right at the incredibly stupid end of cheating. You're never
gonna get away with it. Someone is always going to
see it. What on earth do you hope to achieve
by doing that except drawing a ridicule to you and
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your team from everybody else. It's an embarrassment, especially such
a lovely bunch like the Canadians as well or Ben Johnson.
You want to talk cheating. I mean that guy really
took it to the end. So questioned you, O eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty First up, is it cheating?
I say yes, and it's against the spirit of the game,
even though I rally against the concept of the spirit
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of the games. You don't do that, right, And then
the cops took them away and said you can't do that, bro.
So it may be at the minor end of cheating,
it's not at the major end of cheating. But is
there a sliding scale If you contravene the laws or
the rules, you should be punished equally, right, So the
next question is how do they punish them? This is
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where it gets murky. Do they punish the team, the
football team themselves? Do they punish the Canadian Olympic team
as a whole, and how do they do it? I
would like your input on this, give me your guts
on it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines
are open well, so you can text your thoughts to
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zb Costra standard text charge that is nine to nine
to Trevor. What do you make of this? I like
up the morning and saw it and went, what you
are kidding me?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Right?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yeah, my thought, Darcy are probably going to be different
to everybody else's. I'm thinking, though, what's is it cheating?
I mean as looking at other teams through videos sets,
taking videos of them during games, and then you know,
going to your training and look at them on videos.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean, oh yeah, you have private training sessions so
people can't spy on what you're doing. Therefore you're not
allowed to look. And they looked, so they broke the
law around gazing at the opposition. So they did cheat
mine and minor cheat. I don't think they can get
anything out of it, really.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
I who decides as the private training listen? I mean
I mean many many years, every time there's a big
game of rugby on remember, oh it's a secret training.
But there were people at the fence.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
People are sitting in the greenstam Of is taking a look.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
You know, what's what's the I.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Think the other thing about it is the French are
extraordinarily paranoid around terrorism and the last thing they want
is drones fighting around like this, so they don't know
who's doing what. So they said no, no fly zones,
no fly zones. You're not allowed to someone did.
Speaker 9 (13:38):
Oh no, absolutely all of us are no flies zone.
I mean, yeah, it's breaking the law in France. But
as far as sport, did any hayde and cheat? I mean,
I don't think it's cheating.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, what's your definition of cheating? True?
Speaker 9 (13:50):
Well, uh Andy Hayden? Did any Hayden cheat?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well when he dived out of the line out.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Yeah, and didn't get touched. I mean, I just all
of them interpretations, well, you know, I don't. I mean
I say that to drone trying to spy. What's the
difference of them not having a drone sitting on a
shared one hundred meters ago going over videos and videos
of you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're allowed to do that, but that's been rubber stamped.
You're allowed to do this stuff.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
We will do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's a given. This is something beyond the normal confines
of what is expected or accepted right from from teams.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
So okay, no, I just got no doubts. Every week
there's bloody people trying to spy on other teams, you know,
at the grounds, looking through fences and they just tapping
all the time with your back.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Though?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Why would you drag the world's attention on yourself for
the Olympics filming? And I don't, As I said Toriki,
They're like, what can you actually pick up out of that?
I don't think you can find out anything very minimal amounts.
And then everyone's pointing on the world going what.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Do you do that for idiots?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah no, they're laughing stocks.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Yeah no, you're right. I think the key word is
as fool less, really don't making fooless. Though as far
as cheating, I don't see any difference than you know,
they might be breaking the law, the French will put
them through the course for having to drain, but like
a team spying another team and trying to get as
much information as they can about them, I don't think
they're cheating. And what made you weighed out, Arthie? We're
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getting the new world mate.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And even more amusing that truvan. Thanks very much for
your call. I mean six, the reigning champions eights in
the world taking on the football fans. You couldn't win
if they tried. What are they going to learn? Hey,
hold on, They're just going to welly it up front
and hope for a lucky strike, over and over and
over again. I could have told you that is it cheating?
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And if it is, in your eyes, what kind of
punishment needs to be meted out to the Canadians. Have
they already got their punishment? Everyone's pointing and laughing. Really
twenty two minutes up to seven sportsto this is Newstalk's
e B lines are open. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eight CEO of E Sport New Zealand. It joins US sooner.
His name is Jonathan Jensen, an e sport Olympic. Oh yeah,
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you know it. It's a common.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Forget the riffs call. You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Sports talk on your home of sport.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
News Talk be.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Haber by past seven Sports Talk on News Talk is
z B. It's Wednesday evening talking the naughty, naughty Canadians.
Just to add to this said, the Canadian Olympic Committee
said that was a non accredited member of the Canada
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soccer support team. Now they're revealing the next steps the
IOC Paris twenty twenty four, Canada Soccer and FIFA. If
you're going to climb into this waving fists, they'll be
punching out. They're not like this at all. Right, let's
go to the phones today, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, I mean it's pretty dumb, but right you just
said that he is not actually accredited with Canadian sucker is,
So what can they do? I mean, what was he
trying to do? I mean, if he wasn't an accredited
so who was he going to show the video to?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Interesting? I haven't actually seen any gender being determined, but
we always jump to heat, don't because we're seeing the
males of the guys up to no good. But could
well be a woman, no idea. Apparently a wider Canadian
football team, so a credit not ACCREDI don't know what
they're We're going to find this out overnight as people
start digging further as to exactly how deep this person
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was in and what they hope to achieve and what
these parties again to the I mean, FIFA are going
to be furious, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
David Well, I think if it's connected to something official,
when the Mets starts, all start one kneel.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That might be a little much. You stand in my
toe or break your kneecap. The players themselves didn't do anything,
did they. I don't think they were complicit. So do
they really have to take I think it will be
a financial situation. I think they'll be like that with money. Well,
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the players didn't do anything, well, I don't think they
did anyway.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
They like I said, it's going to see what interested,
to see what comes out in the wash. But I
mean they've got a thing earlier, they've got all they
can watch all their games on the last ten years
or who know how they play, and to do this,
I mean it was pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I think that's the best way to describe it.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Not very quick.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Hey Cooper, Hey May how are you? Yeah? Good? What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:10):
I'm just talking about these cheating Canadians. Uh huh, yeah.
I just think of stupid me personally. They're always going
to get caught and there's always video evidence of our
pre seating games and stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It does seem strange, doesn't it, Cooper?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That it does.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's not like they've got a spy camera from space.
Its satellite in the spines right there. You can see
it so obvious, do you reckon?
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Hang?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Hang? Yeah, a maple leaf flag underneath it as well. There,
But that would be the next step, wouldn't it. Yeah, anyway,
we don't. I suppose it's it's not great to start
off as scenes of the Olympics with a scandal like this,
But the sport itself, what does it for you?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Cooby?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What are you looking forward to?
Speaker 11 (19:58):
I'm just looking forward to all the games, looking forward
to if the sport not just footbollster.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Have you negotiated with your parents around how late you
get to stay up?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Hi?
Speaker 11 (20:10):
Yeah, I'm waiting at three o'clock in the morning to
watch the men.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right, And that's okay, that's kosher. So school was
irrelevant to you over the next two weeks?
Speaker 11 (20:20):
Yep, irrelevant? Mate?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah? Well like and as a sports host myself, I
fully recommend that, but I'll probably be told off by
the government, So I didn't say that at all. You
go to schoolkeeper, focus on your schoolwork. Oh fine, that's
see Cooper, They're all this stupid. Why would you do that?
I'm fascinated to see who did it and find out
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what their excuses and what their reasoning is behind it.
Laugh a minute, let's go to the text line that
now my sister isn't happy with Canada. Thank you, Karen,
good evening. I totally agree with you. This is from Shane.
The Olympics are the biggest sporting event in the world.
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Shame on you can I think they should be disqualified,
but not punished the rest of the athletes. I'm sorry
that it's from Heather, not Shane. You Shane on you,
not shame on you. But that's good thanks to Heavy.
I don't you punish the athletes. But when you look
across the wider picture, you have a crack at the
Canadian Olympic Committee. Do something to them. I don't know what,
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water board them, stick them and stocks, but they are
the raining world champions rights Another Is it because they
spied on their previous opponents. I wouldn't think so, Darcy.
It's using illegal means to gain an advantage over the opposition.
That equals cheating of the worst kind in my eyes,
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forfeit the game and the points go to the Ferns Buffalo.
I gotta like it, Darcy on with trev It's not cheating,
it's been blown way out of proportion. That is from
Steve Interesting Opinions. This is Newstalk's EB Sports Talk and
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as far as watching football itself, the women don't play
till a Friday morning. Coming up on Gold Sport Overnight
though cover starts at one thirty a m. I see
one point fifteen for the build up. At one thirty am,
Australia take on Sa More in the men's sevens. It's
followed by Argentina, Kenya and then France USA. At three
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a m. New Zealand take on Guinea. That's the under
twenty three the Ollie Whites and then New Zealand make
an appearance in the sevens at four am up against
Japan and again at seven thirty a m. Versus South Africa.
All that live and free on Gold Sports. This is
news Talk's EB. Coming up next, it is E Sport Olympics.
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Yes you heard me, E Sport Olympics. It's a thing
all right, and it's coming to a Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 10 (23:04):
No really.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
To eight sports Talk. Cara on News talks thereb will
be off to Paris live shortly. Michael Burgess in z Herald,
a specialist in multimedia sports, joins us ahead of the
opening night of competition coming up. Now though we're going
to talk to the CEO of E Sports New Zealand.
The IOC have decided to create an Olympic e Sport
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game just being held in Saudi Arabia and twenty twenty five.
This is officially sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee the IOC.
Jonathan joins us. Now, Jonathan, just Jonathan Jansen, his name
is Jonathan. Just how big is this announcement?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
This announcement is thanks for having me. It's great to
be here, and it's tens of years in the making.
We've been pushing this for a really, really long time.
And to be recognized by the International Olympic Committee and
not just be part of the Olympics, which I think
what some people were expecting, but to have our own
Olympic esport games next to the Summer Winter and Paralympics
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is really awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But what did they base that on? Because this is
big news and I think out of left field for
a lot of people. So when you applied to have
this sput out as its own standalone games. What was
the basis, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, so we didn't apply, you know, intended to have
sort of worked this way with something that was bubbling
it back in the background. So, I mean, we know that,
you know, two point seven million Kiwis are gamers and
play games. We know that there are hundreds of millions
of dollars in prize money won every year. Three sports. Like,
it's a really really big global phenomenon that more and
more people are participating, and it's been growing in New
Zealand and the Olympic Committee sort of went away and
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decided how they were going to interact with this. They
established a commission to go away and sort of investigate
how they could engage with esports, and that commission, which
was internal to the Olympic Committee, decided that their proposal
was to create their own Olympic esports games rather than
integrating it into the summer or Winter Olympics, which really
makes sense because esports isn't just a sport, right, It's
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like fifty sports because the basketball and the e football
and the sim racing, they're all unique cultures and people
and competitions and so you can't just add it like
you could add high jump. You really need its own
sort of structure around it, which is what they've landed on.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay, so how big in New Zealand? You mentioned two
point seven million people? Is that on a regular basis?
How do you count that? How do you know? Is
this people who are from time to time roll on
to play a bit of I don't know what I'd play.
I mean, I don't know, I'm too old for it.
Or is it a regular participation style? What was the
guards here?
Speaker 10 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, so I mean if we measured across lots of
different metrics. But let's look at just schools, right, So
there are two hundred and fifty secondary school teams. There's
only four hundred secondary schools in New Zealand. You know,
there's two hundred and fifty two secondary school teams who
compete during the school year as part of a school sport.
There are thousands of kiwis who are competing every single
night across different things. Because it's really it's a connected thing.
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The cool thing about esports is you could have a
mate from Fun today. You could have a mate from
Vericago and two guys from Walkman and one from Hamilton
and they jump on the computer or the console or
whatever it is on a Tuesday night and they can
all play together as a team, you know, all together
at once. And so I think that connectedness is really
what attracts people. But now gaming and esports is just massive.
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The biggest game in the world right, one hundred and
eighty million monthly players. That was a country that it'd
be larger than Russia. It's like the eighth largest economy
in the world. And this is just one game.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What's the game? What's the game? Tell me? What's the game?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
League of Legends?
Speaker 10 (26:56):
Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No? But I am an oxygen thief, so I probably
shouldn't have.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Heard of it. Yeah, so League of Religion is one
of the big ones.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But the nomenal people spend more time gaming than on
social media in a day, if you can believe it,
eighty one minutes a day on average. People are spending
the average Kiwi is spending gaming, and it's not also
who you'd expect, you know, the all Blacks tour with
their PS five's and the tall.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
Blacks are all out there gaming.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
There are a lot of our shows, so it's something
that everyone does and the fact that now we can
have kiwis winning Olympic medals representing their country under the
rings is really exciting.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The CEO of E Sports team that z Jonathan Jansen
joins us I suppose to separate it out to its
own individual competition, the e Olympics. It saves drama and
arguments around people saying but is it actually a sport
because it's stand alone. Now you would have dealt with
this a lot of times before, so put it to
you again that me being an old bugger who remembers defender.
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But that's about it. Is it a sport and how
is it a sport?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, look, if you still don't think it's a sport,
not every sport is for everyone. And there are some
people who are going to die on that hill who
are going to say, no, it's not a sport. But
at the end of the day, when we look at
what why a sport? Is a sports? So people can
feel connected, so that we can compete it, so that
we have teamwork, we can communication, so we can a
lot of the key we values that I think we
find the purpose behind our sport. They're through esports and
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there are a lot of people out there who can't
participate in sport for whatever reason, and we've found that actually, surprisingly,
esports is a way for them to connect with each
other student that's sixty one percent of kids who play
esports and schools then go on to play another sport
because they make friends that they weren't able to make before,
and then they're building the confidence to go out and
play on the field. So we're finding that absolutely it's
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a sport on its own right, but it's also in
as well as not and instead of people aren't choosing
to do it instead of regular sport, it's actually helping
make our kids more active because they're learning, Hey, if
I want to be the best in the world, now,
if I want to go to the olmpeg esports games,
I have to be the very best. And to be
the very best, I need to sleep right. I need
to eat right. Because if you're you know, chugging back
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some energy during saw your are doing something you know,
like you're feeding into those stereotypes, then you've got brain
fog and you're not healthy. You can't make quick decisions,
you're not you don't have quick reflexes, and those are
all things that are super important in the world of esports.
We keep getting.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Absolutely, we keep getting told that screen time is bad
for our children and they need physical activity and that
should trump any form of sitting behind a screen. What
you're saying, though, is by this you can actually move
into something more physical. But it's that in itself being
behind a screen and looking at that and not indulging physically.
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Is that a problem, do you think, John.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, I mean I think you're banging on Like, yes,
screen too much. Screen time is the problem. It's whether
or not we want to acknowledge it for what it
is and then and then use the goods out of it.
And we know and that's all. That's what esports is about.
It's like, it's kind of like boxing. You got to
boxing to learn discipline. And just like sport helps us
lead healthy physical lives, esports does the same thing. But
it helps us learn healthy lead healthy digital lives. And
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it's about that moderation of screen time and the balance
in what you're doing and if you structure it in
a competition format. Because remember, esports and gaming are different.
They're two different things, and a lot of people don't
realize that is that gaming can just be going home
and jumping on the console or eating a bag of chips.
You know, that's the same as going to the beach
with a rugby ball and calling yourself an all black,
Like they're two different things. Esports is the competitive aspect
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of it, so it's training with your team, it's practicing
discipline and willpower, and even though sometimes you know you
might be in front of a screen, or there are
esports that are very physical like Hadeau is virtual dodgeball.
You've got Zwift, which is cycling where your physical energy
is actually being translated through different technological means. But all
of these are very very health focused, and so we're
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seeing very well researched health benefits, physical health benefits coming
from esports. And whether they do esports or not, we
know that kiwis are gaming, and so it comes down
to would you rather than game in a structured manner
that's organized and has physical benefits, or would you rather
just kind of put your head in the sand the
same way as you know as TikTok healthy for you physically?
(31:09):
Absolutely not, And so let's get them doing something productive
that they're going to be in front of a screen.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You hear it from the biggest names in sports men.
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It be still up for debate. Really it is seven
forty three. That was Jonathan Jansen, CEO of e Sports
New Zealand. The IOC have decided they're going to have
any sport Olympic Games being held in Saudi Arabia in
twenty twenty four. They've sanctioned it. It's not Paralympics, not
Winter Olympics, not Summer Olympics, esport. I can you hear
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my voice. I'm still struggling to exit. I know it's
the future. I know they're trying to grapple or hold
or I don't know what they're trying to do the future.
They want to be involved, they want to be current,
they want to be present, they want to be on
the cutting edge on the way it's plans. Me to
(32:07):
your blue in the face. You're still sitting there on
your fat ass, staring at a screen. I'm sorry, it's
not sport, it's competition. Olympic Committee. I go and deal
with the Canadians. Sixteen minutes away from eight o'clock coming
up next walk off to Paris too, to some actual
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games with real life human beings running and jumping and
throwing and claimbing and dancing again. Michael Purchase joins us
NS here to hear all that multi media specialists as
we look forward to the action overnight and get some
kind of explanation around the Canadians. Anything, someone anywhere please.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Got a lot of questions, not a lot of answers,
learned a couple this, sir.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, come.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Let's go to Paris.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Mate? Michael Burgess is therefore in zed held in zed
me and of course news talk s b mister Burgess,
bright and early, ready for a massive days entertainment. New
Zealand are they're performing. They've got three fixtures coming up
too and the Sevens and first things up, the Oli
Whites are coming up taking on Guinea.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Yeah, that's it's really cool because as you say, his
child free days away. But New Zealand's right into it.
This EI Whites game should be great. I really like
the look of their team. I like the young players.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
I like Matthew Garb but twenty three year old captain,
I think that's brilliant. I like Ben Wayne the striker,
and I just feel we saw something special from the
early Whites in Tokyo when they made the quarterfinals, and
you could see something special again. Maybe not quite as
good a team with as much big name, but I
think there might be something special brewing. But this is
the big one. Guinea is the team they will target.
They're a good team. They beat Argentina. Any team that
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beats Argentina will be tough, but this is the one
they want because after this they've got to play the
host nation and.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
They've got to play the USA.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
So a positive result tonight and then another result somewhere
else and.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
They could be in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Across the sevens match, Michael's that you fancy.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I am really excited about the sevens this time, particularly
since I've been here, and really because you can't avoid it,
because the French are so excited about it. I was
speaking to some French journalists and normally they said to me, look,
normally we don't really pay attention to the sevens.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
You know, not a big thing here. But there's two
things that play.
Speaker 12 (34:50):
Number One, DuPont he has switched to sevens about six
months ago, and everyone now thinks he's going to be
the savior. They're so excited about this French team with
DuPont in it. They're going really well with him. That's
number one. And number two, you've got this scenario of
a host nation at the Olympics being a really big nation.
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So of course in Tokyo, Japan, with respect, they're never
going to do anything. And in Brazil it was Reo.
It was Rio in Brazil, So I think that that
adds a real dimension, having a host nation so powerful.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
And then talking to the New Zealand coach and the.
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Players the other day, they made the point, I mean,
you've got so many good teams. You've got Argentina, you've
got South Africa, You've got Australia will be good, You've
got Ken you will be good. And then Domasi Tama,
the New Zealand coach, who knows Fiji well, he said, look,
Fiji have been struggling, haven't been impressive, but they will
always peak for the Olympics. That mean so much to them.
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It's their chance of a medal, So you've got to
look at Fiji. And then I really like New Zealand.
I like the mix of They've got this nice mix
of flair, physicality and pace, so I think the men's
sevants could be actually really good and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Onto the Olympics itself. Michael Burgess, you're landed. I expect
you're still under the spell of jet lag and trying
to work cat which ways are But what's the general
energy in the atmosphere around Paris? Are you feeling it?
Speaker 12 (36:13):
I'm loving it, you know, I'm loving it. I think
it's going to be a here's a prediction. I think
it's going to be spectacular Olympics. I think it could
be the best one since London, and maybe better than London.
It's definitely better than Tokyo and Rio. It'll be better
than Beijing, and it'll blow Ethans out of the water.
So this could be the best one in a long time.
I think having a Games in Europe is always really
special because the Europeans are really good. The Americans love
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coming to Europe. It's just a great place to have it.
The only funny thing is does the locals aren't that happy?
I'd say sixty percent of them. They're happy about having
it here. A lot of them have left Paris because
there's about ten million tourists predicted to arrive, so they're
quite annoyed about their city being taken over. It's hard
to move around as metro stations closed, they can't go
(37:00):
to the river, they can't go and sit by the
Eiffel Tower. They're pretty annoyed, a lot of them. Some
of them are happy. So that's a weird scenario because
you would have thought in a hometown you'd be quite
buzzing for the Olympics, but they're annoyed about the river.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Bloody Macron promised that he would clean up swimming the river.
Speaker 12 (37:17):
Sorry, because they spent one point five billion euros and
cleaning it up, and as they're all saying to me,
of course he broke his promises. He's yet to jump
in the water. So there's a bit of that funny
stuff going on. But there's definitely a buzz in the
air that the French Macron has come out and said
he wants them to finish in the top five, which
they haven't done for a long time.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
So there's pressure on them. But I'm sure they'll.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
Perform and then I'm expecting really good things out of
this New Zealand team as well.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Forget the refs call. You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Sports talk on your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's eight minutes to eight, very happy Michael Burgess. So
they're covering the Olympic Games for the Herald, for News
Talk zb in z ME in general and overnight we've
got action. Even though it's not officially started, it kind
of has the big money waste of an opening ceremony
happens at some stage early on Saturday morning. I should
(38:20):
go to France just as miserable as they are. Not
that I'll watch it going a more obscene waste of
money in the world than opening ceremonies for games. It's
just pointless. Producer Andy Dust just pointed, I'll be in here.
I'm not watching it, No, just because I'm in here. No,
I'll be writing an opinion piece how much I hate
opening ceremonies, how incredibly stupid they are. Anyway, before I
(38:43):
moved to France and draining of the rest of those
comeations over there, I let you know what's happening over
my actual sport itself. Quarter past one on Gold Sport.
That build up begins and can catch us on iHeartRadio
as well, and the action commences. One thirty Rugby sevens
Ossie Samoa two am Rugby seven's Argentina versus Kenya at
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to thirty a m. France the USA, and it's a
fleck to the football. New Zealand take on a Guinea.
It's the Oli Whites, the under twenty threes. That game
kicks off at three a m. Then New Zealand make
an appearance in the sevens. They take on Japan at
four a m. Then Australia take on ken Argentina take
on Samoa and at seven point thirty tomorrow morning, New
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Zealand take on South Africa in the rugby seven son.
He's on underway in the Olympic Games. Sevens carries on
with the women's sevens and of course the women's football
as well as the shamefaced Canadiens gets a square off
in front of the football fern. So it was thaying,
what earth did you hope to learn more on this?
(39:51):
I'm sure will come out overnight and I don't know
about you. I'm very keen to hear what excuses they
proffer something so incredibly silly. Let's go to a text line.
David writes the drone issue, I would expect their civil
a Creation authority will have strict rules around drone flights.
I've employed FPV drone pilots and our motorsport team, and
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they usually even require land owner consents and for whatever
no OTAM is, but for notem flight records. So I
would expect that the authorities may bring the harshest penalties,
but I would also expect the Olympic Committee to respond
firmly and as to guilt and respective cheating. Yes, while
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our drome was used primarily for media eclipse and sponsor exposure,
we even use such footage for reviewing and learning. Admittedly,
most of our drone advantage points put it very close
contact with the drift car, so it can be used.
Thanks very much for that text, David. Let's run through
a couple more texts for you, Darcy.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
This guy is.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Mars is not happy about our guest. Jonathan Jensen, CEO
of Esports in New Zealand. Mars City's delusional. This isn't sport.
This is surround on your ass looking at a computer screen.
It's not sport, muzz but I can see some form
of future at the very top top level. Alarm clocks
are good. Thanks for that text. That is obvious if
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you want to be watching or listening to any of
the Olympic Games. Text to here says it's good to
see the French half pick in his place in his home.
I expect he'll be an absolute rip snorter of a player,
and the French crowd behind him will be something else.
Sort of support here too. For then you sell on
seven's teen people saying they really like them and really
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they do well.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Of course we do.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
We'll get our favorites. They're at football or speed climbing,
or break dancing or swimming, any form of track, any
form of field. Cycling's a big favorite of mine. Something
spectacular about the different disciplines and cycling and anything down
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here will be an excise amazing, that's super.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Cool to watch.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
It's will be a long couple of weeks. We'll be
all over it here at News Talks AB. My name
is Darcy Wall to go. Thanks for listening, Thanks for
joining in, if you texted, if you're called, thank you
Andy Duff, thank you for enduring me all day from
midday and don't get paid enough to you really coming
up now, it's just my you do. It's Marcus slash
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small coughing fit there off here. Excuse that Marcus Lush
from eight through midnight, taking your calls on OH eight,
one hundred and eighty, ten to eighty, Have a wonderful evening,
Let's go. How do we abbreviate when you sit on
the Olympic teams? Zo, I'll forget about it.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
HI.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good evening, Welcome on in to Sports Talk. This is
News Talks c B. My name's Darcy Walter Grave. It's
six and a half after seven. It's Wednesday, twenty fourth
of July twenty twenty four. What have you got lined
up for you all today? Let me tell you to
forward the end of the program. We are going to
be talking to Michael Burgess in zid Herald at writer,
media specialist, multi media man. He's arrived in Paris. We'll
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talk to him about the vibe, the sense of occasion
and of course the trouble at meal with the Canadian
football team. That's Michael Burgess. Towards the end, we're talking
E sport as well. I know this sounds strange, that
bear with me. Jonathan Jansen, CEO of E Sports New Zealand.
It's going to be talking to us because the IOC
have decided that there's going to be an Olympic eesport
(01:20):
games in Saudi Arabia next year. The future of sport.
We'll talk with Jonathan about that. Starting things off though
with Ricky Herbert, former All White former All Whites coach.
As we look at the issue around the Canadian football
team getting bustard flying a drone over the football ferns
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in training, would you believe it? How obvious? Quite frankly,
how incredibly stupid. Ricky Herbert joins us shortly to talk
about that up after that, we'll open the lines for
your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighteen and
of course I want a text and you all welcome
at any stage, cost of standard text charge nine two
nine two. There's z B z B O talkback. It's
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the Canadians actually cheating. Is it even cheating? And what's
sanctions to be thrown at them for that team? That's
all to come before any of that. How about a
whole lot of this sport today and in sport today
to Auckland clubs and the Sales NBL. They get nasty
tonight for the right to tack the Rams and Sunday's
Grand Final. Balance has been a focus for the Tatata Guard.
(02:26):
Cam Glidden explains before tonight's bulls.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Stand off, finding a balance of getting rest and recovery
but also making sure we're prepared for this tough game ahead.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
But it has been a challenge and I think.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
We've addressed that we have to be aggressive when we
come out of the gate.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
The All Black Sevens leap into action at the Olympic
Games over night. Andrew new Stub has reflected on the
immense challenge of spending two years out of the picture
whilst recovering from consecutive ACL injuries to the same knee.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
David one hundred wouldn't been able to talk about them physios, doctors,
guys that looked after my mental health and things like that,
and also the team, like my mates and my family
that just helped me out so much and keep pushing
me all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Warrior skipper Mitch Barnett feels the pain of Adam Pompey,
the kicking center who's been wiped out for possibly the
rest of the NRL season after tearing a medial ligament
against Canberra. They didn't start the season there, and he
worked his way into the seventeen and into that left
center spot and even on the weekend I thought he
was he's looking very dangerous, but it's next man up
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mentality and the reigning four to meter medley world champion
swimmer Lewis Klearebert has kipped away from the Olympic hype
through his preparation in sunny New York.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I haven't felt any of the expectations of having to
swim and be a medallist for New Zealand. If that's
what the expectation is, you know, I've just been been
here and been getting ready to try some fast.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Cheers Lewis and that's Scott today. They joined it now
by Ricky Herbert, former All Whites coach and player. As
we look at this sensational start to the Olympics, the
Canadians have got caught with a drone over all. Sorry
football ferns training, Recky, welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (04:13):
Mate, Thanks Darsie. Great to talk of course, football.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Will be the focus of yourself, being that you've got
quite a history in football. Don't think I need to
go through it. But the big football story today is
the spying of a drone by the Canadian national team
looking at the football ferns before they start on Friday morning.
This beggars belief, this story, doesn't it. I suppose first question,
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being a coach yourself, what do they hope to ascertain
from flying a drone over training? What can you actually build,
what can you get out of that?
Speaker 8 (04:46):
I wouldn't say it's complex, Darsie, but it's quite surreal,
isn't it. I guess, just the fundamental roles and responsibilities
of people, and you know, the an appropriate way of
doing things, I guess and seeking I guess that cutting edge.
I mean, I don't know exactly who's done it or
what that looks like, but the context of having a
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drone across and looking across other representative countries training sessions
is completely inappropriate, and I think it'll be interesting where
that that sort of story travels to.
Speaker 7 (05:18):
But I mean, what would you see? Well, I guess
you're going.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
To see or have the ability to see a range
of things depending on what that training session looks like.
Speaker 7 (05:25):
Clearly secrets.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
What would you see, like stand formation players that they're
going to go to. What would you pick up if
you were to be in that situation someone gave you
a tape, Ricky, what would you be looking for?
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Yeah, I mean it's it's a great point, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (05:39):
I guess I'm not assuming that the drones flying around
the bottom of the players and being able to be
up close, but yeah, like I guess the proximity of
where it could get to whatever that looks like. Don't know,
haven't had the ability to do that, But look formation, yeah,
I think you're right. I mean, you could fly it
across whether Michael Mains got his team out and he
set it out and he's you know, whether or not
the drone can pick up players, you know from an
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identity perspective, and what that might look like.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
But I think system is probably more than anything. Really.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
I think, you know, the global world now gives you
the option to understand opposition players and where they play
and strengths and weaknesses, and you know that can be
analyzed across a whole range of videos, et cetera, and
scanning networks. But I guess just to hover something above
to give you that cutting edge, which I think is
completely inappropriate, But that would be probably the number one
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outcome if you were brave enough to take that chance.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
They detained the character concerned. As far as punishment goes,
cheating is cheating, right, whether it's at the Ben Johnson
end of the scale or at the scene of the scale.
Did they come down like a ton of bricks? What
kind of punished do you think the Olympic Games should
meet out to this Canadian side.
Speaker 7 (06:50):
Yeah, what's going to be interesting, isn't it, I guess.
Speaker 8 (06:53):
And again I don't know the full depth of the situation,
but if it's somebody who's very much connected into that organization,
it's going to be interesting to see where that punishment lies.
Because I can't say I've heard to drones flying above
on regular basises. I think I shared with you before,
I think last twelve months. I think I heard something
about it somewhere in some sort of sport whatever that
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might have been, but it's not something that happens on
a regular basis. So it'll be interesting to see where
an Olympic committee sits with us and how vigilant they
are and you know, to to ensure that these things
don't occur again. And I see in you know, sort
of in our local press that primarily drones are banned completely,
So you know, we could be a fan who's going
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across to watch New Zealand play and flies across somebody
else's turf. You know we're going to be dealt with
that appropriately as well. So yeah, it could be reasonably severe,
to be fair, It.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Seemed strange though something so obvious as a drone would
be being used when, as you pointed out, the amount
of video playback facility, scouting everything else, You've got the
information you need. So it seems like a real stretch
to gun and what would be a minimal amount of invitation.
I'd stretch to say, it's stupid, recky.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
Yeah, Look, I wouldn't disagree, Darcia, I think, and you've
nailed it.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
I mean, I guess in my era we probably didn't
have quite the depth of staff that you have in
the modern era now, and would I would suggest that
you know, all the teams that are currently representing their
countries proudly at in Olympic Games would have in depth
analysis way prior to a few days out from a
training session and having something hovering.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
You know, I don't one hundred minute whatever it is above.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
The team that could be basically doing something that you're
going to have no benefit in seeing from a training session.
It might be just a warm up, it might be
a simple passing practice, it might be something completely different.
There might not be some strategic opportunity to view something.
So I wouldn't have thought way before this that you know,
the recognition of players and who's got strengths and weaknesses
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and how teams play. And I mean there's worldwide opportunities
to do that arci.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
So for me it just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I suppose over arching recky we talk about the Canadians.
But what effect do you think this will have on
the football ferns?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
Yeah, look, it'll be interesting probably either go one way
or the other. Dow See.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I think you know, you could look at it from
a players perspective to go, we've actually put some challenges
in front of this team.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
If they are up there putting a drone up and
they want.
Speaker 8 (09:23):
To see what we're doing, we're actually making a bit
of a statement to them.
Speaker 7 (09:28):
So it can have a dual effect. For me.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
I don't think I can only go back in my
playing career, I wouldn't have been a you kind of
look at it is kind of nothing. But like I say,
it could be a little bit twofold here where players go, Wow,
what's this. We're being looked at, we're being spied upon,
we're being You could kind of take it in that context,
or you could go somebody's trying to have a look
at us, so we must be doing something or we're
improving or we're looking better, or where we're going to
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be a challenge to this team, and they're quite clearly
worried about what we could do in performance in two
or three days time. So I'd be taking the ladder mate,
I'd be super positive to go.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
I kind of think this team's worried about us.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
To be fair, when you played, there were no such
things as drones, right.
Speaker 7 (10:10):
Correct, But we might have.
Speaker 8 (10:13):
We might have had somebody sitting in a grandstand with
a pair of binoculars or something like that.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
But I'm not sure. I'm not sure it happened, but
it probably did at.
Speaker 8 (10:22):
Some point some of the countries and teams we played.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For the DMO. We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
In sixteen minutes after seven. This is sports Talk itself
from all Whites coach and all White Ricky Herberts talking
around the bizarre, the odd, the curious situation where, for
some unknown reason, someone on the Canadian side decided that
flying a drone over top of the football ferns that
the training was a good idea. Like I shouldn't really
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laugh because essentially it is cheating. But at what end
of the scale is this cheating. I would say it's
right at the incredibly stupid end of cheating. You're never
gonna get away with it. Someone is always going to
see it. What on earth do you hope to achieve
by doing that except drawing a ridicule to you and
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your team from everybody else. It's an embarrassment, especially such
a lovely bunch like the Canadians as well or Ben Johnson.
You want to talk cheating. I mean that guy really
took it to the end. So questioned you, O eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty First up, is it cheating?
I say yes, and it's against the spirit of the game,
even though I rally against the concept of the spirit
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of the games. You don't do that, right, And then
the cops took them away and said you can't do that, bro.
So it may be at the minor end of cheating,
it's not at the major end of cheating. But is
there a sliding scale If you contravene the laws or
the rules, you should be punished equally, right, So the
next question is how do they punish them? This is
(12:02):
where it gets murky. Do they punish the team, the
football team themselves? Do they punish the Canadian Olympic team
as a whole, and how do they do it? I
would like your input on this, give me your guts
on it. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines
are open well, so you can text your thoughts to
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zb Costra standard text charge that is nine to nine
to Trevor. What do you make of this? I like
up the morning and saw it and went, what you
are kidding me?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Right?
Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yeah, my thought, Darcy are probably going to be different
to everybody else's. I'm thinking, though, what's is it cheating?
I mean as looking at other teams through videos sets,
taking videos of them during games, and then you know,
going to your training and look at them on videos.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I mean, oh yeah, you have private training sessions so
people can't spy on what you're doing. Therefore you're not
allowed to look. And they looked, so they broke the
law around gazing at the opposition. So they did cheat
mine and minor cheat. I don't think they can get
anything out of it, really.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
I who decides as the private training listen? I mean
I mean many many years, every time there's a big
game of rugby on remember, oh it's a secret training.
But there were people at the fence.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
People are sitting in the greenstam Of is taking a look.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
You know, what's what's the I.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Think the other thing about it is the French are
extraordinarily paranoid around terrorism and the last thing they want
is drones fighting around like this, so they don't know
who's doing what. So they said no, no fly zones,
no fly zones. You're not allowed to someone did.
Speaker 9 (13:38):
Oh no, absolutely all of us are no flies zone.
I mean, yeah, it's breaking the law in France. But
as far as sport, did any hayde and cheat? I mean,
I don't think it's cheating.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, what's your definition of cheating? True?
Speaker 9 (13:50):
Well, uh Andy Hayden? Did any Hayden cheat?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well when he dived out of the line out.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Yeah, and didn't get touched. I mean, I just all
of them interpretations, well, you know, I don't. I mean
I say that to drone trying to spy. What's the
difference of them not having a drone sitting on a
shared one hundred meters ago going over videos and videos
of you.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're allowed to do that, but that's been rubber stamped.
You're allowed to do this stuff.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
We will do.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That's a given. This is something beyond the normal confines
of what is expected or accepted right from from teams.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
So okay, no, I just got no doubts. Every week
there's bloody people trying to spy on other teams, you know,
at the grounds, looking through fences and they just tapping
all the time with your back.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, why would you do that?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Though?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Why would you drag the world's attention on yourself for
the Olympics filming? And I don't, As I said Toriki,
They're like, what can you actually pick up out of that?
I don't think you can find out anything very minimal amounts.
And then everyone's pointing on the world going what.
Speaker 7 (14:57):
Do you do that for idiots?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah no, they're laughing stocks.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
Yeah no, you're right. I think the key word is
as fool less, really don't making fooless. Though as far
as cheating, I don't see any difference than you know,
they might be breaking the law, the French will put
them through the course for having to drain, but like
a team spying another team and trying to get as
much information as they can about them, I don't think
they're cheating. And what made you weighed out, Arthie? We're
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getting the new world mate.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
And even more amusing that truvan. Thanks very much for
your call. I mean six, the reigning champions eights in
the world taking on the football fans. You couldn't win
if they tried. What are they going to learn? Hey,
hold on, They're just going to welly it up front
and hope for a lucky strike, over and over and
over again. I could have told you that is it cheating?
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And if it is, in your eyes, what kind of
punishment needs to be meted out to the Canadians. Have
they already got their punishment? Everyone's pointing and laughing. Really
twenty two minutes up to seven sportsto this is Newstalk's
e B lines are open. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eight CEO of E Sport New Zealand. It joins US sooner.
His name is Jonathan Jensen, an e sport Olympic. Oh yeah,
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you know it. It's a common.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Forget the riffs call. You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Sports talk on your home of sport.
Speaker 10 (16:33):
News Talk be.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Haber by past seven Sports Talk on News Talk is
z B. It's Wednesday evening talking the naughty, naughty Canadians.
Just to add to this said, the Canadian Olympic Committee
said that was a non accredited member of the Canada
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soccer support team. Now they're revealing the next steps the
IOC Paris twenty twenty four, Canada Soccer and FIFA. If
you're going to climb into this waving fists, they'll be
punching out. They're not like this at all. Right, let's
go to the phones today, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Well, I mean it's pretty dumb, but right you just
said that he is not actually accredited with Canadian sucker is,
So what can they do? I mean, what was he
trying to do? I mean, if he wasn't an accredited
so who was he going to show the video to?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Interesting? I haven't actually seen any gender being determined, but
we always jump to heat, don't because we're seeing the
males of the guys up to no good. But could
well be a woman, no idea. Apparently a wider Canadian
football team, so a credit not ACCREDI don't know what
they're We're going to find this out overnight as people
start digging further as to exactly how deep this person
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was in and what they hope to achieve and what
these parties again to the I mean, FIFA are going
to be furious, aren't they.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
David Well, I think if it's connected to something official,
when the Mets starts, all start one kneel.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That might be a little much. You stand in my
toe or break your kneecap. The players themselves didn't do anything,
did they. I don't think they were complicit. So do
they really have to take I think it will be
a financial situation. I think they'll be like that with money. Well,
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the players didn't do anything, well, I don't think they
did anyway.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
They like I said, it's going to see what interested,
to see what comes out in the wash. But I
mean they've got a thing earlier, they've got all they
can watch all their games on the last ten years
or who know how they play, and to do this,
I mean it was pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I think that's the best way to describe it.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
Not very quick.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Hey Cooper, Hey May how are you? Yeah? Good? What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:10):
I'm just talking about these cheating Canadians. Uh huh, yeah.
I just think of stupid me personally. They're always going
to get caught and there's always video evidence of our
pre seating games and stuff.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It does seem strange, doesn't it, Cooper?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
That it does.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's not like they've got a spy camera from space.
Its satellite in the spines right there. You can see
it so obvious, do you reckon?
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Hang?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Hang? Yeah, a maple leaf flag underneath it as well. There,
But that would be the next step, wouldn't it. Yeah, anyway,
we don't. I suppose it's it's not great to start
off as scenes of the Olympics with a scandal like this,
But the sport itself, what does it for you?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Cooby?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What are you looking forward to?
Speaker 11 (19:58):
I'm just looking forward to all the games, looking forward
to if the sport not just footbollster.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Have you negotiated with your parents around how late you
get to stay up?
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Hi?
Speaker 11 (20:10):
Yeah, I'm waiting at three o'clock in the morning to
watch the men.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All right, And that's okay, that's kosher. So school was
irrelevant to you over the next two weeks?
Speaker 11 (20:20):
Yep, irrelevant? Mate?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah? Well like and as a sports host myself, I
fully recommend that, but I'll probably be told off by
the government, So I didn't say that at all. You
go to schoolkeeper, focus on your schoolwork. Oh fine, that's
see Cooper, They're all this stupid. Why would you do that?
I'm fascinated to see who did it and find out
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what their excuses and what their reasoning is behind it.
Laugh a minute, let's go to the text line that
now my sister isn't happy with Canada. Thank you, Karen,
good evening. I totally agree with you. This is from Shane.
The Olympics are the biggest sporting event in the world.
(21:05):
Shame on you can I think they should be disqualified,
but not punished the rest of the athletes. I'm sorry
that it's from Heather, not Shane. You Shane on you,
not shame on you. But that's good thanks to Heavy.
I don't you punish the athletes. But when you look
across the wider picture, you have a crack at the
Canadian Olympic Committee. Do something to them. I don't know what,
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water board them, stick them and stocks, but they are
the raining world champions rights Another Is it because they
spied on their previous opponents. I wouldn't think so, Darcy.
It's using illegal means to gain an advantage over the opposition.
That equals cheating of the worst kind in my eyes,
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forfeit the game and the points go to the Ferns Buffalo.
I gotta like it, Darcy on with trev It's not cheating,
it's been blown way out of proportion. That is from
Steve Interesting Opinions. This is Newstalk's EB Sports Talk and
(22:12):
as far as watching football itself, the women don't play
till a Friday morning. Coming up on Gold Sport Overnight
though cover starts at one thirty a m. I see
one point fifteen for the build up. At one thirty am,
Australia take on Sa More in the men's sevens. It's
followed by Argentina, Kenya and then France USA. At three
(22:34):
a m. New Zealand take on Guinea. That's the under
twenty three the Ollie Whites and then New Zealand make
an appearance in the sevens at four am up against
Japan and again at seven thirty a m. Versus South Africa.
All that live and free on Gold Sports. This is
news Talk's EB. Coming up next, it is E Sport Olympics.
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Yes you heard me, E Sport Olympics. It's a thing
all right, and it's coming to a Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 10 (23:04):
No really.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
To eight sports Talk. Cara on News talks thereb will
be off to Paris live shortly. Michael Burgess in z Herald,
a specialist in multimedia sports, joins us ahead of the
opening night of competition coming up. Now though we're going
to talk to the CEO of E Sports New Zealand.
The IOC have decided to create an Olympic e Sport
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game just being held in Saudi Arabia and twenty twenty five.
This is officially sanctioned by the International Olympic Committee the IOC.
Jonathan joins us. Now, Jonathan, just Jonathan Jansen, his name
is Jonathan. Just how big is this announcement?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
This announcement is thanks for having me. It's great to
be here, and it's tens of years in the making.
We've been pushing this for a really, really long time.
And to be recognized by the International Olympic Committee and
not just be part of the Olympics, which I think
what some people were expecting, but to have our own
Olympic esport games next to the Summer Winter and Paralympics
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is really awesome.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But what did they base that on? Because this is
big news and I think out of left field for
a lot of people. So when you applied to have
this sput out as its own standalone games. What was
the basis, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Well, so we didn't apply, you know, intended to have
sort of worked this way with something that was bubbling
it back in the background. So, I mean, we know that,
you know, two point seven million Kiwis are gamers and
play games. We know that there are hundreds of millions
of dollars in prize money won every year. Three sports. Like,
it's a really really big global phenomenon that more and
more people are participating, and it's been growing in New
Zealand and the Olympic Committee sort of went away and
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decided how they were going to interact with this. They
established a commission to go away and sort of investigate
how they could engage with esports, and that commission, which
was internal to the Olympic Committee, decided that their proposal
was to create their own Olympic esports games rather than
integrating it into the summer or Winter Olympics, which really
makes sense because esports isn't just a sport, right, It's
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like fifty sports because the basketball and the e football
and the sim racing, they're all unique cultures and people
and competitions and so you can't just add it like
you could add high jump. You really need its own
sort of structure around it, which is what they've landed on.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Okay, so how big in New Zealand? You mentioned two
point seven million people? Is that on a regular basis?
How do you count that? How do you know? Is
this people who are from time to time roll on
to play a bit of I don't know what I'd play.
I mean, I don't know, I'm too old for it.
Or is it a regular participation style? What was the
guards here?
Speaker 10 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, so I mean if we measured across lots of
different metrics. But let's look at just schools, right, So
there are two hundred and fifty secondary school teams. There's
only four hundred secondary schools in New Zealand. You know,
there's two hundred and fifty two secondary school teams who
compete during the school year as part of a school sport.
There are thousands of kiwis who are competing every single
night across different things. Because it's really it's a connected thing.
(26:22):
The cool thing about esports is you could have a
mate from Fun today. You could have a mate from
Vericago and two guys from Walkman and one from Hamilton
and they jump on the computer or the console or
whatever it is on a Tuesday night and they can
all play together as a team, you know, all together
at once. And so I think that connectedness is really
what attracts people. But now gaming and esports is just massive.
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The biggest game in the world right, one hundred and
eighty million monthly players. That was a country that it'd
be larger than Russia. It's like the eighth largest economy
in the world. And this is just one game.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
What's the game? What's the game? Tell me? What's the game?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
League of Legends?
Speaker 10 (26:56):
Have you ever heard of it?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
No? But I am an oxygen thief, so I probably
shouldn't have.
Speaker 10 (27:00):
Heard of it. Yeah, so League of Religion is one
of the big ones.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But the nomenal people spend more time gaming than on
social media in a day, if you can believe it,
eighty one minutes a day on average. People are spending
the average Kiwi is spending gaming, and it's not also
who you'd expect, you know, the all Blacks tour with
their PS five's and the tall.
Speaker 10 (27:19):
Blacks are all out there gaming.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
There are a lot of our shows, so it's something
that everyone does and the fact that now we can
have kiwis winning Olympic medals representing their country under the
rings is really exciting.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
The CEO of E Sports team that z Jonathan Jansen
joins us I suppose to separate it out to its
own individual competition, the e Olympics. It saves drama and
arguments around people saying but is it actually a sport
because it's stand alone. Now you would have dealt with
this a lot of times before, so put it to
you again that me being an old bugger who remembers defender.
(27:53):
But that's about it. Is it a sport and how
is it a sport?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, look, if you still don't think it's a sport,
not every sport is for everyone. And there are some
people who are going to die on that hill who
are going to say, no, it's not a sport. But
at the end of the day, when we look at
what why a sport? Is a sports? So people can
feel connected, so that we can compete it, so that
we have teamwork, we can communication, so we can a
lot of the key we values that I think we
find the purpose behind our sport. They're through esports and
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there are a lot of people out there who can't
participate in sport for whatever reason, and we've found that actually, surprisingly,
esports is a way for them to connect with each
other student that's sixty one percent of kids who play
esports and schools then go on to play another sport
because they make friends that they weren't able to make before,
and then they're building the confidence to go out and
play on the field. So we're finding that absolutely it's
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a sport on its own right, but it's also in
as well as not and instead of people aren't choosing
to do it instead of regular sport, it's actually helping
make our kids more active because they're learning, Hey, if
I want to be the best in the world, now,
if I want to go to the olmpeg esports games,
I have to be the very best. And to be
the very best, I need to sleep right. I need
to eat right. Because if you're you know, chugging back
(29:05):
some energy during saw your are doing something you know,
like you're feeding into those stereotypes, then you've got brain
fog and you're not healthy. You can't make quick decisions,
you're not you don't have quick reflexes, and those are
all things that are super important in the world of esports.
We keep getting.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Absolutely, we keep getting told that screen time is bad
for our children and they need physical activity and that
should trump any form of sitting behind a screen. What
you're saying, though, is by this you can actually move
into something more physical. But it's that in itself being
behind a screen and looking at that and not indulging physically.
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Is that a problem, do you think, John.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, I mean I think you're banging on Like, yes,
screen too much. Screen time is the problem. It's whether
or not we want to acknowledge it for what it
is and then and then use the goods out of it.
And we know and that's all. That's what esports is about.
It's like, it's kind of like boxing. You got to
boxing to learn discipline. And just like sport helps us
lead healthy physical lives, esports does the same thing. But
it helps us learn healthy lead healthy digital lives. And
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it's about that moderation of screen time and the balance
in what you're doing and if you structure it in
a competition format. Because remember, esports and gaming are different.
They're two different things, and a lot of people don't
realize that is that gaming can just be going home
and jumping on the console or eating a bag of chips.
You know, that's the same as going to the beach
with a rugby ball and calling yourself an all black,
Like they're two different things. Esports is the competitive aspect
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of it, so it's training with your team, it's practicing
discipline and willpower, and even though sometimes you know you
might be in front of a screen, or there are
esports that are very physical like Hadeau is virtual dodgeball.
You've got Zwift, which is cycling where your physical energy
is actually being translated through different technological means. But all
of these are very very health focused, and so we're
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seeing very well researched health benefits, physical health benefits coming
from esports. And whether they do esports or not, we
know that kiwis are gaming, and so it comes down
to would you rather than game in a structured manner
that's organized and has physical benefits, or would you rather
just kind of put your head in the sand the
same way as you know as TikTok healthy for you physically?
(31:09):
Absolutely not, And so let's get them doing something productive
that they're going to be in front of a screen.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
You hear it from the biggest names in sports men.
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more on
your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It be still up for debate. Really it is seven
forty three. That was Jonathan Jansen, CEO of e Sports
New Zealand. The IOC have decided they're going to have
any sport Olympic Games being held in Saudi Arabia in
twenty twenty four. They've sanctioned it. It's not Paralympics, not
Winter Olympics, not Summer Olympics, esport. I can you hear
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my voice. I'm still struggling to exit. I know it's
the future. I know they're trying to grapple or hold
or I don't know what they're trying to do the future.
They want to be involved, they want to be current,
they want to be present, they want to be on
the cutting edge on the way it's plans. Me to
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your blue in the face. You're still sitting there on
your fat ass, staring at a screen. I'm sorry, it's
not sport, it's competition. Olympic Committee. I go and deal
with the Canadians. Sixteen minutes away from eight o'clock coming
up next walk off to Paris too, to some actual
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games with real life human beings running and jumping and
throwing and claimbing and dancing again. Michael Purchase joins us
NS here to hear all that multi media specialists as
we look forward to the action overnight and get some
kind of explanation around the Canadians. Anything, someone anywhere please.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Got a lot of questions, not a lot of answers,
learned a couple this, sir.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, come.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Let's go to Paris.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Mate? Michael Burgess is therefore in zed held in zed
me and of course news talk s b mister Burgess,
bright and early, ready for a massive days entertainment. New
Zealand are they're performing. They've got three fixtures coming up
too and the Sevens and first things up, the Oli
Whites are coming up taking on Guinea.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Yeah, that's it's really cool because as you say, his
child free days away. But New Zealand's right into it.
This EI Whites game should be great. I really like
the look of their team. I like the young players.
Speaker 12 (33:51):
I like Matthew Garb but twenty three year old captain,
I think that's brilliant. I like Ben Wayne the striker,
and I just feel we saw something special from the
early Whites in Tokyo when they made the quarterfinals, and
you could see something special again. Maybe not quite as
good a team with as much big name, but I
think there might be something special brewing. But this is
the big one. Guinea is the team they will target.
They're a good team. They beat Argentina. Any team that
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beats Argentina will be tough, but this is the one
they want because after this they've got to play the
host nation and.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
They've got to play the USA.
Speaker 12 (34:20):
So a positive result tonight and then another result somewhere
else and.
Speaker 10 (34:25):
They could be in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Across the sevens match, Michael's that you fancy.
Speaker 12 (34:30):
I am really excited about the sevens this time, particularly
since I've been here, and really because you can't avoid it,
because the French are so excited about it. I was
speaking to some French journalists and normally they said to me, look,
normally we don't really pay attention to the sevens.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
You know, not a big thing here. But there's two
things that play.
Speaker 12 (34:50):
Number One, DuPont he has switched to sevens about six
months ago, and everyone now thinks he's going to be
the savior. They're so excited about this French team with
DuPont in it. They're going really well with him. That's
number one. And number two, you've got this scenario of
a host nation at the Olympics being a really big nation.
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So of course in Tokyo, Japan, with respect, they're never
going to do anything. And in Brazil it was Reo.
It was Rio in Brazil, So I think that that
adds a real dimension, having a host nation so powerful.
Speaker 10 (35:22):
And then talking to the New Zealand coach and the.
Speaker 12 (35:24):
Players the other day, they made the point, I mean,
you've got so many good teams. You've got Argentina, you've
got South Africa, You've got Australia will be good, You've
got Ken you will be good. And then Domasi Tama,
the New Zealand coach, who knows Fiji well, he said, look,
Fiji have been struggling, haven't been impressive, but they will
always peak for the Olympics. That mean so much to them.
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It's their chance of a medal, So you've got to
look at Fiji. And then I really like New Zealand.
I like the mix of They've got this nice mix
of flair, physicality and pace, so I think the men's
sevants could be actually really good and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Onto the Olympics itself. Michael Burgess, you're landed. I expect
you're still under the spell of jet lag and trying
to work cat which ways are But what's the general
energy in the atmosphere around Paris? Are you feeling it?
Speaker 12 (36:13):
I'm loving it, you know, I'm loving it. I think
it's going to be a here's a prediction. I think
it's going to be spectacular Olympics. I think it could
be the best one since London, and maybe better than London.
It's definitely better than Tokyo and Rio. It'll be better
than Beijing, and it'll blow Ethans out of the water.
So this could be the best one in a long time.
I think having a Games in Europe is always really
special because the Europeans are really good. The Americans love
(36:37):
coming to Europe. It's just a great place to have it.
The only funny thing is does the locals aren't that happy?
I'd say sixty percent of them. They're happy about having
it here. A lot of them have left Paris because
there's about ten million tourists predicted to arrive, so they're
quite annoyed about their city being taken over. It's hard
to move around as metro stations closed, they can't go
(37:00):
to the river, they can't go and sit by the
Eiffel Tower. They're pretty annoyed, a lot of them. Some
of them are happy. So that's a weird scenario because
you would have thought in a hometown you'd be quite
buzzing for the Olympics, but they're annoyed about the river.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Bloody Macron promised that he would clean up swimming the river.
Speaker 12 (37:17):
Sorry, because they spent one point five billion euros and
cleaning it up, and as they're all saying to me,
of course he broke his promises. He's yet to jump
in the water. So there's a bit of that funny
stuff going on. But there's definitely a buzz in the
air that the French Macron has come out and said
he wants them to finish in the top five, which
they haven't done for a long time.
Speaker 10 (37:39):
So there's pressure on them. But I'm sure they'll.
Speaker 12 (37:41):
Perform and then I'm expecting really good things out of
this New Zealand team as well.
Speaker 7 (37:47):
Forget the refs call. You make a call on.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Sports talk on your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's eight minutes to eight, very happy Michael Burgess. So
they're covering the Olympic Games for the Herald, for News
Talk zb in z ME in general and overnight we've
got action. Even though it's not officially started, it kind
of has the big money waste of an opening ceremony
happens at some stage early on Saturday morning. I should
(38:20):
go to France just as miserable as they are. Not
that I'll watch it going a more obscene waste of
money in the world than opening ceremonies for games. It's
just pointless. Producer Andy Dust just pointed, I'll be in here.
I'm not watching it, No, just because I'm in here. No,
I'll be writing an opinion piece how much I hate
opening ceremonies, how incredibly stupid they are. Anyway, before I
(38:43):
moved to France and draining of the rest of those
comeations over there, I let you know what's happening over
my actual sport itself. Quarter past one on Gold Sport.
That build up begins and can catch us on iHeartRadio
as well, and the action commences. One thirty Rugby sevens
Ossie Samoa two am Rugby seven's Argentina versus Kenya at
(39:06):
to thirty a m. France the USA, and it's a
fleck to the football. New Zealand take on a Guinea.
It's the Oli Whites, the under twenty threes. That game
kicks off at three a m. Then New Zealand make
an appearance in the sevens. They take on Japan at
four a m. Then Australia take on ken Argentina take
on Samoa and at seven point thirty tomorrow morning, New
(39:29):
Zealand take on South Africa in the rugby seven son.
He's on underway in the Olympic Games. Sevens carries on
with the women's sevens and of course the women's football
as well as the shamefaced Canadiens gets a square off
in front of the football fern. So it was thaying,
what earth did you hope to learn more on this?
(39:51):
I'm sure will come out overnight and I don't know
about you. I'm very keen to hear what excuses they
proffer something so incredibly silly. Let's go to a text line.
David writes the drone issue, I would expect their civil
a Creation authority will have strict rules around drone flights.
I've employed FPV drone pilots and our motorsport team, and
(40:14):
they usually even require land owner consents and for whatever
no OTAM is, but for notem flight records. So I
would expect that the authorities may bring the harshest penalties,
but I would also expect the Olympic Committee to respond
firmly and as to guilt and respective cheating. Yes, while
(40:34):
our drome was used primarily for media eclipse and sponsor exposure,
we even use such footage for reviewing and learning. Admittedly,
most of our drone advantage points put it very close
contact with the drift car, so it can be used.
Thanks very much for that text, David. Let's run through
a couple more texts for you, Darcy.
Speaker 10 (40:54):
This guy is.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Mars is not happy about our guest. Jonathan Jensen, CEO
of Esports in New Zealand. Mars City's delusional. This isn't sport.
This is surround on your ass looking at a computer screen.
It's not sport, muzz but I can see some form
of future at the very top top level. Alarm clocks
are good. Thanks for that text. That is obvious if
(41:20):
you want to be watching or listening to any of
the Olympic Games. Text to here says it's good to
see the French half pick in his place in his home.
I expect he'll be an absolute rip snorter of a player,
and the French crowd behind him will be something else.
Sort of support here too. For then you sell on
seven's teen people saying they really like them and really
(41:42):
they do well.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Of course we do.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
We'll get our favorites. They're at football or speed climbing,
or break dancing or swimming, any form of track, any
form of field. Cycling's a big favorite of mine. Something
spectacular about the different disciplines and cycling and anything down
(42:05):
here will be an excise amazing, that's super.
Speaker 7 (42:07):
Cool to watch.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
It's will be a long couple of weeks. We'll be
all over it here at News Talks AB. My name
is Darcy Wall to go. Thanks for listening, Thanks for
joining in, if you texted, if you're called, thank you
Andy Duff, thank you for enduring me all day from
midday and don't get paid enough to you really coming
up now, it's just my you do. It's Marcus slash
(42:35):
small coughing fit there off here. Excuse that Marcus Lush
from eight through midnight, taking your calls on OH eight,
one hundred and eighty, ten to eighty, Have a wonderful evening,
Let's go. How do we abbreviate when you sit on
the Olympic teams? Zo, I'll forget about it.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
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