July 25, 2024 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting day in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
Aaron Lloyd - Sports Integrity Lawyer on 'Done Gate' at the Paris Olympics.
Steve Corica - Auckland FC Head Coach - On their signing of Hiroki Sakai.
Cheree Kinnear - LIVE out of Paris.
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but I'm sure you can suck that one up. Let's
look at what we've got the show tonight. Toward the
end of the prom off to Paris again we go,
this time out. Shari Kanaer has joined Drawn the Short Straw.
She's in New Zealand Herald at multi media Focused Journalists.
(01:15):
She's in Paris and well day Tish, I suppose you'd
say previewer of the flag bear situation and what she knows.
How we touch base on how the vibe, how it
is over in Paris ahead of this and if really
of all the Parisians left, I think they might well
have done well, bad timper than I am. Wells. I
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catch it with Steve Carriker, aukan FC head coach. A
big signing they made. It was announced this morning the
Japanese World Cup superstar Hiroki Sakai seventy five caps for
the Japanese national team. Handy, and we'll kick things off
with Aaron Lloyd, a sports integrity lawyer, will carry on
with the fallout of drone gate. I didn't say that
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it was written in front of me and I am
Ron Burgundy. But why what a controversy? I wouldn't want
to talk about it again? But it changed overnight. It
gets better and better. The swamp gets deeper and we're
dragging our limbs through it. So what happens now? We'll
talk to Aaron about that and then we'll take your
calls on that subject our eight hundred eighty ten eighty
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that is the plan. But before we put that into place,
let's do this sport today and in sports today eighty
start of the thirty third Olympiad continues to be dogged
by scandal. The head coach of the Canadian women's team
at the center of drone cheap scandal, has stood herself down,
but further sanctions won't be applied, explained Canadian Olympic Committee
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chief David Shoemaker.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I was persuaded by the fact that Bev Priestman had
no involvement, no knowledge in the incident. So those who
had the direct involvement we removed from Team Canada. There's
no room for that in Team Canada.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
To the game itself a football, Ferns interim coach Michael
has a job well cutout managing his athletes through the
miggles over the opening three matches.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
There's probably just timing across the three games based on
where they're at physically. I think we're in a good
place and I can only plan to make sure that
we have enough physically, technically and the balance across the
squad over those three games.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And Warriors skipper Mitch Bonnett has addressed Chanelle Harris Tavita's
kicking performance from last week's Raiders loss. Very protectible.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Doesn't when you'll lose your game, even though fans can
see it. Is that it's what we do to league
tries or leak field position. But that way defined Chanell
like every goalkickers had a shocker with the boot and
he won't be the laugh and it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The flavor of the day. So why not let's get
back to football LEFC. You have a real being newest
at signing the super experience like mature Japanese international Hierocki Sake.
Manager Steve Korak gives us the skinny on the new
slash old kid on the block.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Defensively, you know he plays right back, he could play
center back as well. Great passer of the ball. He
is quite a big big boy as well, which is
good for their pieces.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And you know he delivers good balls.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Into the box.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who's a big boy. And that's sport today. We're talking
now the vagaries of the law around the Olympic Games
and the huge controversy it's exploded over the drone use
by the Canadian women's football team. Sports Cy integrity lawyer
from Minta Allison Rudd Watts, Aaron Lloyd joins us. Now, Aaron,
welcome to the show. This is well, I'd say it's
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a minefield, isn't it. There are so many threats to
the story.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Yeah, and there are a few sort of integrity stories
leading into the games, aren't they? And this one's arguably
the biggest one for us here in New Zealand, given
it's affecting us and relating to spying on us.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So we start from the start, we'll start unpacking this
first up, we thought it was a one off incident
over night, it's developed. No, there are recidivists, maybe twice
is not recidivus actions enough there? And the action has
been taken. A couple of the coaches have been sent through,
sent home, one of them has stepped down initially. Is
that enough for you? Do you think to issue some
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form of sanction or punishment?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
What's interesting, right, because you've got to ask, well, what
would we want out of it? Well, certainly we would
want a personal accountability for those who are involved who
shouldn't have been doing these things. And it looks like
the Canadians have stepped up pretty quickly and pretty sensibly
to start dealing with that. But no, Look, I would
have thought the New Zealand Olympic Committee's made it pretty
clear as well as New Zealand Football that they're pretty
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unhappy with this. And I would have thought this is
something that the International Olympic Committe is going to need
to respond to.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Not only the IOC but FIFA because this is their brand,
isn't it. So i'd expect that'd be complicit in any
form of sanction.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Look, I think that must be right. I mean, the
first thing you've got to ask is, you know, what
are the rules of the competition in which this occurs
in So you know, the Olympic Games is a pretty
detailed set of rules regarding range of aspects and it
links to the Olympic Charter. This kind of thing just
isn't okay when you think about what the Olympic Charter
talks abouteness principles of fairness, principles of integrity. So the IOC,
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and it's the IOC's competition. The elect to the Olympic
Games is the sort of headline competition for them. So
the IOC really needs to step in here and manage this.
I think if they're going to retain credibility over this
competition being run with integrity, and then FIFA, well, FIFA
can probably look to see what the IOC does first,
given it's in their backyard. But I would have thought
FIFA needs to step in as well, and if anything,
(06:34):
further needs to happen, then FIFA will need to step
in and deal with it as well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, on a scale of one to teen, though, this
is extraordinarily serious for the Olympics, for FIFA and for Canada.
This is not something you can brush under the carpet
and go, oh, well, never mind, let's move on.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Look, I think that's right. I think gone of the
days where we in sport look around and go, well, look,
any means necessary to obtain the advantage is okay, you know,
and look, this isn't the first sport to have a
spying scandal. We've had it in rugby union, Bill Belichick
and the co had it in the NFL. People are
constantly at elite level going to be trying to get
in there. You're trying, You're going to be trying to
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get intelligence on the team, you're doing video analysis on them.
It's a slope towards putting a drone up and flying
over their practice. But clearly that's crossing the line. And
I think unless we want to free for all, this
is an opportunity, particularly in the context of the Olympics,
to the IOC and perhaps FEVER as well, to put
a bit of a line in this end and go, look,
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you know that's clearly over the line, and here's what's
going to happen to it, so that we can disincentivize
others from doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'd like to talk about more about the drone and
the prohibited zone that it was flying, and that's another
three another kettle of fish. But before that, around the
integrity and the expected behavior of these Olympics sides. Is
this made clear before each nation climbs into the Olympics,
is a set out in black and white and stone
thout shalt not.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Well, probably not to the level of thou shalt not
fly a drone over a competing team's practice, but certainly
you would think that anyone you're familiar with clean sport
and in sports integrity principles, and those principles are certainly
set out in the Olympic Charter, you would look at
this and you would go, that crosses a line and
it goes too far. As I understand it from the reporting,
(08:16):
there's certainly a certain amount of sort of deception around it.
As you've already identified information around how prevalent this was
has come out and drips and drabs that suggests that
no one was completely forthcoming to begin with around what
the practice was. If your practice is legitimate and you're
comfortable with it, you're going to come forward and talk
about your full practice to begin with, aren't you so
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the fact that you don't in the fact that you
sort of drip feed some of the details or some
of the details come out later, suggesting in and of itself,
the people that were doing it knew that what they
were doing was wrong. But look, there isn't going to
be a black and white rule to cover every single scenario,
and integrity doesn't work like that. We set a set
of rules around the stuff that's really clear. We set
a set of principles that people follow, and people have
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to use and exercise their judgment. And clearly, clearly no
one who is flying a drone over another team's practice
think that that's okay. They do think it's okay. Then
setting your principal standards right to begin with.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We're joined by sports lawyer Aaron Lloyd from Mentor, Allison
Rudd and Watts. How deep should this investigation go? Considering
the subterfuge engaged by the Canadians, as you were just
pointing out, do you expect this to be more than considerable.
They'll pretty deep, won't they.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Well, you'd think they would. I mean, the key's going
to be is this organizational or is it the individuals?
You know, if it was Canadian football that condoned this,
how widespread is this practice? Is it widespread with other teams?
What about the Canadian men's team? What about does this
go on in the Canadian Premier League? What kind of
behavior is that? I would have thought Canadian Football will
want to have a pretty good look at it itself,
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and in doing that they may be able to appease
the IOC and may be able to appease feefit to
a degree. Because if Canadian Football come out and say, look,
this is not okay, We're going to investigate ourselves and
we're going to get to the bottom of it, and
we're going to set some pretty clear rules and we're
going to discipline the people who are involved. Certainly smart,
that's how they'll approach it, and that's how they want
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to embrace it where it will become a problem for
them if, as it turns out, this is a well
condoned If it was to be a well condoned practice
in the organization, and if it's the organization and not
just rogue individuals within the organization. That's when it really
becomes a big problem. But you wouldn't look, you wouldn't
have expected, you wouldn't expect, so buy and large. With
some exceptions, most international sports bodies and national sports bodies
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get the rules, they want to play by them. They
do what they can to enforce their teams around it.
Where you're getting people pushing the boundaries will often be
individual athletes or individual coaches. So that's how it looks
in this instance. It probably is how it is, But
I think what IOC and FIFA will want to do
is investigated enough to make clear whether that's the case.
And if it turns out this is rogue employees, as
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the Canadians are saying it is, then you deal with
those employees, you reinforce the rules, and I guess you
move on. But that's a matter for the IOC and
FEFA to do because if they don't do that well,
then people will doubt whether there's real integrity.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Since though aaron whether it was rogue or not, it
still falls under the umbrella of the Canadian Olympic Committee.
So the buck has to stop with them regardless of
where this came from.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Surely yes, but it depends on what you mean by
the buck has to stop. I mean, you know what
do we mean by that? Do we mean the Canadian
teams team now gets disqualified from the Olympics? Well, probably not,
or maybe I don't know, But what do we mean
by that? Is it the whole of the Canadian team?
Or is it just a footballer? Is it just a
women's football team? Is it or is it just those individuals?
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So you can see there's a sort of sliding scale.
If you're going to punish someone for wrongdoing, how high
do you take the punishment in terms of organizationally? Is
it the whole of the Canadian team? Is it just
the football, is it just a female football or is
it just the individuals who were involved? And let's imagine this.
Let's imagine that the Canadian football and Canadian Olympic team
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had some play, some pretty good and robust integrity policies
and training and commitment, and genuinely speaking, they had a
culture of integrity across that organization. And it turns out
that it is a couple of rogue people, then the
appropriate thing to do is to focus on those people. Now,
what you've got to do, though, is you've got to
work out when that's really the case, or whether a
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bad organization is just putting two people up a scapegoats.
And that's the key in identifying which is it that
we're dealing with. So we're dealing with a situation where
at its core the organization has integrity, but there's a
couple of bad actors, in which case deal with them,
or is that how it's being presented when in fact
the organization doesn't have a good culture of integrity, in
which case then you've got to drill deeper, you know,
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And we've seen that in other areas of sport. Doping
is a classic example. Generally speaking, it's individual actors who
were misbehaving in a doping context, but occasionally you'll get
a countrywide organization the Russian doping scandal, ITSACI and so
forth that says otherwise. So that's the key really in
a sports integrity model. You've got to work out whether
where is the rot. Is the rot just the individuals,
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or is the rot that the organizational level.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And it's only then aaron that possible sanctions can be applied.
Is there much point in talking about what may happen,
because I expect the scope. Again, so it's a sliding rule,
isn't it depend on who did it, how deep they
believe it is, So investigate first and then start meeting
out punishment after that and what scale could they go?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Well, and one hundred percent that's right, And I think
you have to do it that way around because otherwise
what you're doing is you're making decisions based on imperfect
information and you're sort of reacting in a knee jerk
and sort of sort of lynch mob kind of fashion.
Look here, I think we've got to come back to
the question of this we had. It's easy for us
(13:45):
too to get passionate about it. As New Zealanders. We
feel like we've sort of our team's privacy and perhaps
even the privacy of the individuals has been violated. We
feel like we've been cheat cheated. But it is a
sliding scale.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
There's a difference is that we will already be subject
to considerable analysis by opposition teams that is entirely legitimate analysis.
This is not legitimate analysis. And there's a line there,
And I think what you need to do is you
need to say well, how serious a deviation from the
norm is that, who is it and what is it?
And then what are the options available? And look, the
(14:21):
International Olympic Committee, under its Olympic Rules and the Olympic Charter,
has quite a broad range of powers and ability to
sanction worn fine and so forth. Disqualification certainly could be
on the cards here, but it doesn't feel, at least
to me, it doesn't feel like that's the territory and
at the moment it feels like the territory are in
as First of all, we need to identify how deep
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this is, how big an issue this is, and then
identify whether there's any sanctions that need to go beyond
the individuals. And my suspicion here is that there won't
be sanctions going beyond the individuals, but we wait and see,
because only the IOC will be in control of that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports. We
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Speaker 2 (15:05):
Be And it was ouron Lloyd's sports integrity lawyer talking
to me about the drama at the Olympic Games. The
spying scandal continues last night when we spoke of this,
it was one event. Woke up tomorrowp sorry early this morning.
It suddenly became two events. So this story has advanced
(15:26):
some what questions to you? Should the automatic wind just
be given to the football funds or draw? Do they
take points?
Speaker 9 (15:33):
What?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Just to start? I know, at the end of an
interview talking with Aaron, it's a little hard to meet
out any form of punishment if you're not quite sure
who are you supposed to be punishing. But to sit
there and let nothing happen, sure that is even worse
than giving a punishment, to say, we're recognized, this is
(15:54):
not right. We need to do something. Maybe that's the
lower end of the scale. I find it difficult that
when you hear people like that the head of the
Olympic Committee from candidates, you make it talking for saying that,
(16:17):
you know, we believe that there's nothing more and we're
not going to go further on with the punishment of
the coach because she told us he's got nothing to
do with it. You've got a history. Now, we can't
trust anything you say, and nor should we. First you
found out about the drone, then that was kept a
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secret until a second drone turns up. Why should we
trust anything that comes out of the mouths of anyone
involved with Canadian Olympics. That's quite a broad brushstroke, granted,
but they did this to themselves. When you get the
coachs coming out and talking about upholding the integrity and
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that's why I'm stepping down for a match. You haven't
got any to uphold anymore. Cheatah, And the only reason
you're apologizing we were stepping down for a game to
say called keep the integrity of the Olympics intactics because
you've got caught. Would we have heard any of this
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if you hadn't have got caught? No, certainly not. Something
has to happen. Surely maybe I was a little mild
on it yesterday, but now we're at a stage going
this has happened twice. What else are they up to?
And something has to be done, primarily primarily to set
an example, so the Olympic Committee, International Olympic Committee and
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FIFA can go if you transgress, we will punish you.
Don't because if nothing that's done until the end of
the Olympic Games, Jesus sounds like the judiciary, doesn't it.
What effect are they going to have? So let me know, oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the football fans will
make us nice and simple, give them the automatic win
or maybe just call it a draw. I'd say go
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the win. Otherwise, what's the point in playing that the
team need to be punished and whether it was a
rogue actor regardless on behalf of the team they got
court red handed chucked the book at them. Oh, eight
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on their big signing the Japanese World Cup, rockstar Hiroki
Sakai and Shari kinnear joined us from Paris to the
phones we go. What happens now is this scandal slowly
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but surely gets unpacked. Hi, Craig Evening.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
I really enjoy your show. You're really informative and I
find it really interesting to listen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Thank you great.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
But but is a butt. I think you're a little
bit I agree with the guests you had on before.
As far as the steps you've taken it, I think
you're a little bit over the top as pharo as
that goes, because I've heard, I've set out in the
media that the person who's flying the drone hadn't release
the footage to the team, so they need to find out.
I believe that if the coach knew nothing about what
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was going on, the team hasn't seen any footage, and
they don't know anything. They've been training for a lot
of time, for a lot of years to get to
this left, and I think it's unfair to penalize all
the players for some shepherd basically dick here that's got
and flowing the drain run twice. It feels bad to
penalize them because I mean, they haven't done anything wrong,
because then it's like how hard do you go do
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you penalize? Say the rblocks are instance, if one of
their players was caught drunk driving before a game something,
then you penalize the entire team. Its yeah, there's a
little bit over the top. I think that you can't
really come up with decision so you know how far
down the corruption goes through their organization. If it's just
what we talked.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
About at the end. Had brought that up with Aaron
and he made good sense around that. I suppose it's
a knee jerk around here, but it's hard now to
trust what they say now that it's been repeated. It's like,
I understand, you get that, and there might be a
rogue actor, as they say, but why would they put
themselves in such a position but only for to make
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the team stronger. I'm just trying to look at Knockham's
raise a situation here, Craig. Look, I know as little
as the rest, but you know what I'm say saying there,
it seems suspicious in itself. Otherwise, why would you go
to all that trouble?
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah, well, what I can't understand. I believe personally that
a lot of teams did nothing about it. But what
I can't understand is why were they taking from the
job the New Zealand team when we're a long way
down the natural leaderboard as far as ranking something that
doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why you would put yourself
in that position or possibly getting caught and causing this
whole incident when the team's not really a big threat.
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It seems stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It does now, Craig. I've been thinking about that and
I have a theory. It might be a little up
in the air, in a bit strange, but I'll run
it past you anyway, that the New Zealand team in
that group are no threat to Canada. I think we
know that what they're doing or possibly is having a
dry run on how they can do it to the
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next team or how they can do it.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Shul.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They get through to the next round and they're going, well,
you know, I don't think it's lling. They're going to
be looking at this much of You'll be okay, so
let's just have us see what we can actually get
away with it. That's why they did it twice. It's
France and Colaudia are the other two teams in there.
So you do question that. I think it's the the
repeat nature of the offense that gets me, that starts
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waking me up a little more. It wasn't a one
off act. Moo, I'm sorry, it's oh they keep doing it.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Yeah. Well, I was talking to one of the guys
at work today and he came up with a different
theories said, because Canadians are quite generally known as helpful
and fooful people, maybe because we're so far down the list,
they were flying the drone over our game to see
how that could help us improve. I said, I said,
what sort of stuff have you been smoking this point?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I don't want to be at your workplace. Craig heby,
thanks very much for your call. Thanks for bringing that
point up. Most appreciated. Good day, Tony. What have you
got for us?
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Hey, Darcy? Well, kind of the same lines as Craig.
What about the Canadians are our common our cousins. We
shouldn't be sort of like ostracizing them like for you know,
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it's it's still to be proven, and it's what what
do we know that we flew a drono, they flew
a drone over Okay, that's the tip of the Iceberg.
There's lots of the stuff going on all the time,
not maybe not the Olympics, but you look at the
all black people spying on the training or the Canadians
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are generally.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Must have taken it very seriously because they've seen two
of the staff home and the coach is stood down.
So this is not small beings in their own actions.
Sugg just to me lot more to it.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you. You've got to give you that.
But generally speaking, I think Canadians are They're there in
the Commonwealth. It's like like we have the Commonwealth Games
and I'd hate to see like or.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
For the punch up happened and Tony, look, we had
the Commonwealth Games and if that's going to come back again.
But to think any relationship we've got under the British
flag from centuries ago means nothing in the situation. Oh,
I don't dislike Canadians or Canada I genuinely even very good,
cool people, and that this doesn't reflect on them as
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a nation, but it reflects on their football team, it
reflects on their Olympic organization, and it reflects on the
integrity of something that's supposed to be which I'm going
to laugh when I say this. It's supposed to be
oozing intechnity. Excuse me, the Olympic Games far from that. Anyway,
let's get onto the phones. Good Peter.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Yeah, I say, hey, look, I don't agree with either
of those last two callers. This is a professional sport.
Our girls have been training just as hard as the Canadians.
To say that they didn't get any advantage from but
this is an assistant coach that's gone out and done it.
So if you don't think that she's going back and saying, well,
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why don't we try this or why don't we try that?
Whether or not she's told the Canadian girls why she's
coming up with a theory as to how to play
or not, it's a different thing. They may not have known,
but she can still use that information in terms of
how she coaches or assist in the coaching of the
Canadian girls, and that puts us at a disadvantage.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
So yeah, I think the.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Planing selling was a right because they've seen her home.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, it's outright cheating. The Canadian girls have gotten advantage front,
so I think they should be penalized the fact that
they didn't know I know that's hard, but you know
that's that's just the consequences of being involved in that
particular team. Because they've gotten advantage from it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They should be pedalized and to do nothing and sit
there and want to go by and hope it goes
away by putting out do anyone anyhow any good at
tool is it? They've got to make some form of statement.
But again, what Aaron Lloyd said to us, though, the
depth of that punishment, the breadth of that punishment needs
to be attached to the scale of the offending, and
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that's something that has yet to be workout. But if
it doesn't happen to the last of the Olympic Games,
what's the point, right?
Speaker 11 (26:28):
I think we should be awarded the points and they
should be doped the points for the first game.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Good on your pete up, Thanks very much for your call.
Lines remain open in eight hundred eighty ten eighty twenty
five minutes to eight. Craig reckons I should take up
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people are defending the integrity of the Canadian people. This
is not about the Canadian people. It's about a football
team in their Olympic committee. Try and try and work
out the difference if you can. Hey, Pauline, how are you?
Speaker 12 (27:28):
Hello? Darcy? How are you?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm very well. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (27:32):
I quite liked Peter's call. That's the last caller, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Right?
Speaker 12 (27:38):
There are two things here. I think we need to
get hold of the chappie who did the drone flying
and offer him the option of a large fine, or
he comes clean about everything what was said to him
and who told him to do the spying on the
training comps. The other thing is the woman or if
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there were more women or woman women who actually was
involved needs to be banned from professionals.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You talk about the assistant that got sent back home again.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
If she's the one, although it seems to me an
assistant coach wouldn't be up to this on her own.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It would appear on the face of it, even though
you can't see the obvious nature of this, that there's
a lot more going on under the skin than we're
being more being nead to know.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
This is why I think we need to offer the
drone flyer a huge fine or he gets to spill
the beans on everything. I still feel that someone who's
capable of doing what they have arranged to be done,
spying on a competitive training practice for gain, needs to
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be banned from professional sport because that's not the spirit
of things.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, and the concept of a spirit of sport though
I think has probably died when professionalism got its howks
and this sport anyway. But Pauline, thanks very much for
your core high Stephanie.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
A day, Hey, I reckon they should be made an
example of If they get off lightly, other teams would think, oh,
well they didn't get banned or lose a game or anything,
and we might destroy it ourselves. And as for the
drone person, well, he can say whatever he likes. He
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may have ventually pass to put it on, but he's
saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
We don't know, well, this is the thing we've gone through,
the subterfuge, so who is going to trust anything any
of them say I won't or.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
Any of them correct, And that's why they should be
made an example of and lose the game or even
be kicked out of the games complicitly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well interestingly, people say that's not fair for the athletes,
but life's not fair. Life's a stern father, and by
simple the fact of association, you might end up going
down the gurglar. And now it's not fair for the players,
but you've got to look on a wider scale about
what's actually fair on the Olympic. It's what actually fair
for the teams as opposed to just the individuals affected.
Speaker 13 (30:10):
Yeah, yep, correct, and that's what I reckon. They should
be made an example of so that other things don't
get it in their heads that they'll try.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, let's hope that doesn't happen. Stephanie, thanks very much
for your call. Plenty of texts have come in. It
might run through some of those later on the piece,
but we're going to get in now to a chat
with Steve Carriker. This is actually football on the park.
It's not drones at all, it's a new signing for
Auckland FC. He comes Steve no need tmo.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
We've got the breakdown on sports Talk.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
News Talk.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We're talking football now here on news Talker z B
and that we're joined by that gatter, the manager of
Auckland FC's we look at the new signing for the
club on international Finally, his name is Helqui Sucker and
Steve Corika. What about him that made you want to
sign him up and drag him over here?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Well, he's a fantastic player. He obviously fits into the
position that we were looking at. He has tremendous experience.
You know, he's played played seventy four times for Japan,
played in three World Cups, two Olympic Games. He's played
in France, in Germany. You know, he's a wonderful player,
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but wonderful experience abroad as well, and he's going to
be fantastic for the club, for the young players as
well coming through and trying to learn what a professional
footballer is. So I think he's a perfect model role
model for that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Were there any concerns about the vintage of him, He's
what thirty four years old? Is that presents an issue?
Long term or not.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Steve, well, not long obviously long term we've you know,
he is a little bit older, but you know with
that comes a lot of experience, a lot that he
can bring to the team.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You know, players these days are playing a lot, a
lot longer than what they used to. So I think,
what he you know what, He's going to be fantastic
for you know, Auckland Football Club. It's going to bring
in a lot of Japanese people hopefully to the to
the games as well. He's got a lovely family. He's
a nice guy, which is important as well that we
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bring the right people to the to the football club.
But yeah, he's he's he's going to be a great
signing for us.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Multi talented and defense. Does he play right across the back?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Steve?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
He can? He can play right or left fullback. He's
played center back before as well. So it helps in
a salary cap league that we get players that can
play you know, different positions and he covers or all
the positions at the back, which is great for us.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So when you go looking for an import like this,
what do you determine first who's available, who's the best
out be, what position and you need to cover. Is
there an order of important it comes to looking for.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Your Obviously the positions we're looking for is the most
important thing. Then you know we want to we want
to sign obviously good footballers, good people, but also you know,
foreigners that have had the experience. We've got a young side,
so I think, you know, we we do need a
few experienced players. We've got Tommy Smith, I think with
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Hierarchi now as well as another one, he's going to
be a good leader as well, I think. But yeah,
we look at the positions you know, we want, we
want top quality players as well as we look at
the you know, the top five leagues around the world
and if we can find any players that are coming
out of them kind of leagues. So I think we're
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we're doing pretty well. So yeah, there's a lot of
things that we factor in before we make any decision,
but I think Hierarchi fits the bill.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
As far as length of contract, how long have you
got him for.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
He's on a one year contract at the moment. Obviously,
he he has friends here in Auckland, a player playing
for kel United. They used to play with it in
the national team. So he's obviously spoke about Auckland very highly,
and you know that was one of the reasons as
well that I think he wanted to come out here.
That is such a nice place for his family and
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for him to you know, to hopefully stay longer than
one year and you know, have a good time out here.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So open ended based on how he feels and what
he provides for to.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Get a bit of both. Yeah, if you know, obviously
we want him to have a very good season, but
you know, and he's got to be comfortable here as well,
so we'll see how it goes in the in the
first year. But yeah, I'm sure he'll be here for
longer than one one season.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
A bit of excitement around the club. She getting awfully
close for talking Steve co Okay, he's the manager of
the gap, of the head coach, whatever you want to
be called Steve, I'm not sure. Probably Steve's just as
good of the Auckland Football Club. But it's approaching. The
shadow must be on you now, so we'll hance the
pump all on and having this signing hugely important, but
there must be a few more in the tube before
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you actually get your team together and start practicing. You
wins our nixt announcements.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Yeah, definitely. You know, we've actually we started training. We've
we've played our first in the house game yes yesterday,
which was which was great to get the boys together.
We've still got a few players still to come in,
still go to sign you know, still another five probably
five six players and four of them will be foreigners
as well. So yeah, there's still a little bit a
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little bit to do. Work very hard on them players
as well, because you know, they will be very important
for us because we have a young squad. I think
if we bring in the right foreigners. Now we have
a lot of key replayers. We have three or fours
dans and you know, I think the foreigners will just
top us off.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's Steve Karka, their Auckland FC head coach, talking about
the new signing the Japanese International hierockey Saki. Coming up next,
we go to Paris at Shari Kinneya joins us as
we look at the vibe in Paris ahead of the
Olympic Games. Is the news talks he B's been now
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across Live to Paris, where roving reporter Shari Kinnear joins
the broadcast. Arrive what twenty four hours ago you're finally
waking up, getting your feet on the ground. They must
be extraordinarily excited, albeit half asleep, Cherie sure.
Speaker 14 (37:01):
Bunjo from Paris, as you say, when you've been on
the ground for a little while and it's already so
so full on, and even just being in the city,
it's so busy, there's so much happening. So yeah, straight
into it. Not much rest for me, just you know,
straight into this massive task ahead, but so excited to
be here.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So what have you been charged with? Have they given
you a list like do this, do this, do that?
What's what your primary purpose or focus over there?
Speaker 14 (37:25):
Well, I've been sent over here to cover visuals primarily,
so you'll be seeing me pop up a lot and
videos on the Herald and across our channels. But yeah,
it is really a beast of an event to cover.
Just looking at the schedule, it's just one of those
things where you have to accept you're not going to
be able to get to everything. There's just so much happening.
But yeah, it's just going to be a day to
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day decision. I think in terms of where we're placed,
I've got a two other Herald reporters here as well
on the ground, So we'll just be divvying up every
day and see what we can get to. But yeah,
a lot happening.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
A lot of the Parisians have got all pissy on it.
They've up and left somewhere and we're not dealing with this.
Is there rubbish. We cannot go anywhere is expensive. We
don't like that, Durist. Have you heard anything negative around
the game so far?
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (38:10):
It was actually an uber yesterday and my uber driver
was speaking to me about how they are quite frustrated
with the games, because he was even finding it really
hard to get me to run, need to go because
so many of the roads are closed. It's just chaos
down at the River Sin because so much of that
area has been fenced off for this ambitious opening ceremony.
So I think for a lot of the locals it's
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a little bit frustrating in the sense of the disruption
to the city. But they are happy to have, you know,
the tourists around and have that sort of the environment
and the energy that the games brings. I think it's
just that disruption for their day to day.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It's the city street. Can he have thrown any bunting up,
can you tell what's happening?
Speaker 14 (38:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, there's plenty of bunting. A lot
of the bars and restaurants have the world flags bunting around,
and I've seen lots of big banners at say Paris
twenty twenty four, and some massive posters up on these
huge buildings they have of you know, big star Olympic athletes.
So yeah, it's pretty clear the Olympics is in town.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Now, what about the the interruption of the sponsors more
than anything else, is the place draped in sponsor flags
and logos and the like as well.
Speaker 14 (39:21):
Yeah, I have seen a few, but yeah, I'm not
sure about like what the I guess what all the
rules are around sponsorship and stuff. But I've seen a
few around sort of sports stores as well. I saw yesterday.
But yeah, most of it's just that real classic Olympics
brandings that I've seen everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Sary Kenney, it joined us from over in Paris looking
here to a few weeks covering the Olympic Games. And
of course one of the big things that a lot
of people, a majority of people are looking forward to
is what you mentioned on that is the opening ceremony
what do you nail around this?
Speaker 14 (39:54):
Yeah, very ambitious opening ceremony to come. So Paris had
decided not to have the opening ceremony in a stadium,
which is of course the more traditional way to do it.
It's actually being held on the river sea, so there'll
be boats carrying athletes and performers that will be traveling
up the river up towards the Eiffel Tower. And so
because it's along the river, they've had to fence off
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that area and you have to have applied for a
pass to get into that area so that you can
be vetted. So there's a huge, of course, a massive
security issue around this as well. I know they've deployed
around forty five thousand police officers just for that in
that one area for the opening ceremony. It's sure to
be an incredible ceremony, but I know, logistically it's very
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ambitious and let's just hope everything goes to plan. There
are still a couple backup plans to move it to
the Star de France if they need to, but as
it stands, it sounds like everything is still going ahead
along the river.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Flag Bear that's going to be announced early enough tomorrow morning.
Our time. You've got any inside oil on that, Do
you know who's going to pick it up. There's a
number of boxes they have to check before they get
that job, and there's a number of athletes out there.
You got any rumors for Suri?
Speaker 14 (41:08):
Yeah, I haven't fortunately got any rumors as such yet.
I am still waiting to hear some more info on that,
but yeah, I mean it's always a really big talks
about topic. A few people maybe in the mix. Luca
Jones could be one to look out for, even Hayden Wild.
You remember who really rose to fame in the last
Olympic Games, of course, Lisa Carrington, Tom Walsh. There's a
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few pig names in there. But yeah, just a few
hours now for us here to see who officially will
be our flag bearers and on Matt.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Well say goodbye, Suri. Can you thank you very much
for that report. We'll be catching up with the Shari
and a regular basis almost come to the end of
the program. Thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for
your calls, thanks for your texts. Quick look at Olympic
action overnight on New Zealand Island and the rugby sevens
for men that's at two thirty am three am. It's
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New Zealand v Canada and the women's football and New
Zealander potentially involved in the quarter finals. It might be
at seven a m. Might be one at eight a m.
Depending on results, so keep your eyes locked on there.
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look at what we've got the show tonight. Toward the
end of the prom off to Paris again we go,
this time out. Shari Kanaer has joined Drawn the Short Straw.
She's in New Zealand Herald at multi media Focused Journalists.
(01:15):
She's in Paris and well day Tish, I suppose you'd
say previewer of the flag bear situation and what she knows.
How we touch base on how the vibe, how it
is over in Paris ahead of this and if really
of all the Parisians left, I think they might well
have done well, bad timper than I am. Wells. I
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catch it with Steve Carriker, aukan FC head coach. A
big signing they made. It was announced this morning the
Japanese World Cup superstar Hiroki Sakai seventy five caps for
the Japanese national team. Handy, and we'll kick things off
with Aaron Lloyd, a sports integrity lawyer, will carry on
with the fallout of drone gate. I didn't say that
(01:58):
it was written in front of me and I am
Ron Burgundy. But why what a controversy? I wouldn't want
to talk about it again? But it changed overnight. It
gets better and better. The swamp gets deeper and we're
dragging our limbs through it. So what happens now? We'll
talk to Aaron about that and then we'll take your
calls on that subject our eight hundred eighty ten eighty
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that is the plan. But before we put that into place,
let's do this sport today and in sports today eighty
start of the thirty third Olympiad continues to be dogged
by scandal. The head coach of the Canadian women's team
at the center of drone cheap scandal, has stood herself down,
but further sanctions won't be applied, explained Canadian Olympic Committee
(02:44):
chief David Shoemaker.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I was persuaded by the fact that Bev Priestman had
no involvement, no knowledge in the incident. So those who
had the direct involvement we removed from Team Canada. There's
no room for that in Team Canada.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
To the game itself a football, Ferns interim coach Michael
has a job well cutout managing his athletes through the
miggles over the opening three matches.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
There's probably just timing across the three games based on
where they're at physically. I think we're in a good
place and I can only plan to make sure that
we have enough physically, technically and the balance across the
squad over those three games.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And Warriors skipper Mitch Bonnett has addressed Chanelle Harris Tavita's
kicking performance from last week's Raiders loss. Very protectible.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Doesn't when you'll lose your game, even though fans can
see it. Is that it's what we do to league
tries or leak field position. But that way defined Chanell
like every goalkickers had a shocker with the boot and
he won't be the laugh and it's.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The flavor of the day. So why not let's get
back to football LEFC. You have a real being newest
at signing the super experience like mature Japanese international Hierocki Sake.
Manager Steve Korak gives us the skinny on the new
slash old kid on the block.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Defensively, you know he plays right back, he could play
center back as well. Great passer of the ball. He
is quite a big big boy as well, which is
good for their pieces.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And you know he delivers good balls.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Into the box.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Who's a big boy. And that's sport today. We're talking
now the vagaries of the law around the Olympic Games
and the huge controversy it's exploded over the drone use
by the Canadian women's football team. Sports Cy integrity lawyer
from Minta Allison Rudd Watts, Aaron Lloyd joins us. Now, Aaron,
welcome to the show. This is well, I'd say it's
(04:41):
a minefield, isn't it. There are so many threats to
the story.
Speaker 7 (04:44):
Yeah, and there are a few sort of integrity stories
leading into the games, aren't they? And this one's arguably
the biggest one for us here in New Zealand, given
it's affecting us and relating to spying on us.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So we start from the start, we'll start unpacking this
first up, we thought it was a one off incident
over night, it's developed. No, there are recidivists, maybe twice
is not recidivus actions enough there? And the action has
been taken. A couple of the coaches have been sent through,
sent home, one of them has stepped down initially. Is
that enough for you? Do you think to issue some
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form of sanction or punishment?
Speaker 7 (05:18):
What's interesting, right, because you've got to ask, well, what
would we want out of it? Well, certainly we would
want a personal accountability for those who are involved who
shouldn't have been doing these things. And it looks like
the Canadians have stepped up pretty quickly and pretty sensibly
to start dealing with that. But no, Look, I would
have thought the New Zealand Olympic Committee's made it pretty
clear as well as New Zealand Football that they're pretty
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unhappy with this. And I would have thought this is
something that the International Olympic Committe is going to need
to respond to.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Not only the IOC but FIFA because this is their brand,
isn't it. So i'd expect that'd be complicit in any
form of sanction.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
Look, I think that must be right. I mean, the
first thing you've got to ask is, you know, what
are the rules of the competition in which this occurs
in So you know, the Olympic Games is a pretty
detailed set of rules regarding range of aspects and it
links to the Olympic Charter. This kind of thing just
isn't okay when you think about what the Olympic Charter
talks abouteness principles of fairness, principles of integrity. So the IOC,
(06:12):
and it's the IOC's competition. The elect to the Olympic
Games is the sort of headline competition for them. So
the IOC really needs to step in here and manage this.
I think if they're going to retain credibility over this
competition being run with integrity, and then FIFA, well, FIFA
can probably look to see what the IOC does first,
given it's in their backyard. But I would have thought
FIFA needs to step in as well, and if anything,
(06:34):
further needs to happen, then FIFA will need to step
in and deal with it as well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, on a scale of one to teen, though, this
is extraordinarily serious for the Olympics, for FIFA and for Canada.
This is not something you can brush under the carpet
and go, oh, well, never mind, let's move on.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Look, I think that's right. I think gone of the
days where we in sport look around and go, well, look,
any means necessary to obtain the advantage is okay, you know,
and look, this isn't the first sport to have a
spying scandal. We've had it in rugby union, Bill Belichick
and the co had it in the NFL. People are
constantly at elite level going to be trying to get
in there. You're trying, You're going to be trying to
(07:08):
get intelligence on the team, you're doing video analysis on them.
It's a slope towards putting a drone up and flying
over their practice. But clearly that's crossing the line. And
I think unless we want to free for all, this
is an opportunity, particularly in the context of the Olympics,
to the IOC and perhaps FEVER as well, to put
a bit of a line in this end and go, look,
(07:29):
you know that's clearly over the line, and here's what's
going to happen to it, so that we can disincentivize
others from doing it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'd like to talk about more about the drone and
the prohibited zone that it was flying, and that's another
three another kettle of fish. But before that, around the
integrity and the expected behavior of these Olympics sides. Is
this made clear before each nation climbs into the Olympics,
is a set out in black and white and stone
thout shalt not.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Well, probably not to the level of thou shalt not
fly a drone over a competing team's practice, but certainly
you would think that anyone you're familiar with clean sport
and in sports integrity principles, and those principles are certainly
set out in the Olympic Charter, you would look at
this and you would go, that crosses a line and
it goes too far. As I understand it from the reporting,
(08:16):
there's certainly a certain amount of sort of deception around it.
As you've already identified information around how prevalent this was
has come out and drips and drabs that suggests that
no one was completely forthcoming to begin with around what
the practice was. If your practice is legitimate and you're
comfortable with it, you're going to come forward and talk
about your full practice to begin with, aren't you so
(08:37):
the fact that you don't in the fact that you
sort of drip feed some of the details or some
of the details come out later, suggesting in and of itself,
the people that were doing it knew that what they
were doing was wrong. But look, there isn't going to
be a black and white rule to cover every single scenario,
and integrity doesn't work like that. We set a set
of rules around the stuff that's really clear. We set
a set of principles that people follow, and people have
(08:57):
to use and exercise their judgment. And clearly, clearly no
one who is flying a drone over another team's practice
think that that's okay. They do think it's okay. Then
setting your principal standards right to begin with.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We're joined by sports lawyer Aaron Lloyd from Mentor, Allison
Rudd and Watts. How deep should this investigation go? Considering
the subterfuge engaged by the Canadians, as you were just
pointing out, do you expect this to be more than considerable.
They'll pretty deep, won't they.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
Well, you'd think they would. I mean, the key's going
to be is this organizational or is it the individuals?
You know, if it was Canadian football that condoned this,
how widespread is this practice? Is it widespread with other teams?
What about the Canadian men's team? What about does this
go on in the Canadian Premier League? What kind of
behavior is that? I would have thought Canadian Football will
want to have a pretty good look at it itself,
(09:48):
and in doing that they may be able to appease
the IOC and may be able to appease feefit to
a degree. Because if Canadian Football come out and say, look,
this is not okay, We're going to investigate ourselves and
we're going to get to the bottom of it, and
we're going to set some pretty clear rules and we're
going to discipline the people who are involved. Certainly smart,
that's how they'll approach it, and that's how they want
(10:08):
to embrace it where it will become a problem for
them if, as it turns out, this is a well
condoned If it was to be a well condoned practice
in the organization, and if it's the organization and not
just rogue individuals within the organization. That's when it really
becomes a big problem. But you wouldn't look, you wouldn't
have expected, you wouldn't expect, so buy and large. With
some exceptions, most international sports bodies and national sports bodies
(10:31):
get the rules, they want to play by them. They
do what they can to enforce their teams around it.
Where you're getting people pushing the boundaries will often be
individual athletes or individual coaches. So that's how it looks
in this instance. It probably is how it is, But
I think what IOC and FIFA will want to do
is investigated enough to make clear whether that's the case.
And if it turns out this is rogue employees, as
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the Canadians are saying it is, then you deal with
those employees, you reinforce the rules, and I guess you
move on. But that's a matter for the IOC and
FEFA to do because if they don't do that well,
then people will doubt whether there's real integrity.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Since though aaron whether it was rogue or not, it
still falls under the umbrella of the Canadian Olympic Committee.
So the buck has to stop with them regardless of
where this came from.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Surely yes, but it depends on what you mean by
the buck has to stop. I mean, you know what
do we mean by that? Do we mean the Canadian
teams team now gets disqualified from the Olympics? Well, probably not,
or maybe I don't know, But what do we mean
by that? Is it the whole of the Canadian team?
Or is it just a footballer? Is it just a
women's football team? Is it or is it just those individuals?
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So you can see there's a sort of sliding scale.
If you're going to punish someone for wrongdoing, how high
do you take the punishment in terms of organizationally? Is
it the whole of the Canadian team? Is it just
the football, is it just a female football or is
it just the individuals who were involved? And let's imagine this.
Let's imagine that the Canadian football and Canadian Olympic team
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had some play, some pretty good and robust integrity policies
and training and commitment, and genuinely speaking, they had a
culture of integrity across that organization. And it turns out
that it is a couple of rogue people, then the
appropriate thing to do is to focus on those people. Now,
what you've got to do, though, is you've got to
work out when that's really the case, or whether a
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bad organization is just putting two people up a scapegoats.
And that's the key in identifying which is it that
we're dealing with. So we're dealing with a situation where
at its core the organization has integrity, but there's a
couple of bad actors, in which case deal with them,
or is that how it's being presented when in fact
the organization doesn't have a good culture of integrity, in
which case then you've got to drill deeper, you know,
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And we've seen that in other areas of sport. Doping
is a classic example. Generally speaking, it's individual actors who
were misbehaving in a doping context, but occasionally you'll get
a countrywide organization the Russian doping scandal, ITSACI and so
forth that says otherwise. So that's the key really in
a sports integrity model. You've got to work out whether
where is the rot. Is the rot just the individuals,
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or is the rot that the organizational level.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
And it's only then aaron that possible sanctions can be applied.
Is there much point in talking about what may happen,
because I expect the scope. Again, so it's a sliding rule,
isn't it depend on who did it, how deep they
believe it is, So investigate first and then start meeting
out punishment after that and what scale could they go?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Well, and one hundred percent that's right, And I think
you have to do it that way around because otherwise
what you're doing is you're making decisions based on imperfect
information and you're sort of reacting in a knee jerk
and sort of sort of lynch mob kind of fashion.
Look here, I think we've got to come back to
the question of this we had. It's easy for us
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too to get passionate about it. As New Zealanders. We
feel like we've sort of our team's privacy and perhaps
even the privacy of the individuals has been violated. We
feel like we've been cheat cheated. But it is a
sliding scale.
Speaker 8 (14:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
There's a difference is that we will already be subject
to considerable analysis by opposition teams that is entirely legitimate analysis.
This is not legitimate analysis. And there's a line there,
And I think what you need to do is you
need to say well, how serious a deviation from the
norm is that, who is it and what is it?
And then what are the options available? And look, the
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International Olympic Committee, under its Olympic Rules and the Olympic Charter,
has quite a broad range of powers and ability to
sanction worn fine and so forth. Disqualification certainly could be
on the cards here, but it doesn't feel, at least
to me, it doesn't feel like that's the territory and
at the moment it feels like the territory are in
as First of all, we need to identify how deep
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this is, how big an issue this is, and then
identify whether there's any sanctions that need to go beyond
the individuals. And my suspicion here is that there won't
be sanctions going beyond the individuals, but we wait and see,
because only the IOC will be in control of that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports. We
may have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more
on your home of sports and news Dogs that.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Be And it was ouron Lloyd's sports integrity lawyer talking
to me about the drama at the Olympic Games. The
spying scandal continues last night when we spoke of this,
it was one event. Woke up tomorrowp sorry early this morning.
It suddenly became two events. So this story has advanced
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some what questions to you? Should the automatic wind just
be given to the football funds or draw? Do they
take points?
Speaker 9 (15:33):
What?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Just to start? I know, at the end of an
interview talking with Aaron, it's a little hard to meet
out any form of punishment if you're not quite sure
who are you supposed to be punishing. But to sit
there and let nothing happen, sure that is even worse
than giving a punishment, to say, we're recognized, this is
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not right. We need to do something. Maybe that's the
lower end of the scale. I find it difficult that
when you hear people like that the head of the
Olympic Committee from candidates, you make it talking for saying that,
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you know, we believe that there's nothing more and we're
not going to go further on with the punishment of
the coach because she told us he's got nothing to
do with it. You've got a history. Now, we can't
trust anything you say, and nor should we. First you
found out about the drone, then that was kept a
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secret until a second drone turns up. Why should we
trust anything that comes out of the mouths of anyone
involved with Canadian Olympics. That's quite a broad brushstroke, granted,
but they did this to themselves. When you get the
coachs coming out and talking about upholding the integrity and
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that's why I'm stepping down for a match. You haven't
got any to uphold anymore. Cheatah, And the only reason
you're apologizing we were stepping down for a game to
say called keep the integrity of the Olympics intactics because
you've got caught. Would we have heard any of this
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if you hadn't have got caught? No, certainly not. Something
has to happen. Surely maybe I was a little mild
on it yesterday, but now we're at a stage going
this has happened twice. What else are they up to?
And something has to be done, primarily primarily to set
an example, so the Olympic Committee, International Olympic Committee and
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FIFA can go if you transgress, we will punish you.
Don't because if nothing that's done until the end of
the Olympic Games, Jesus sounds like the judiciary, doesn't it.
What effect are they going to have? So let me know, oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the football fans will
make us nice and simple, give them the automatic win
or maybe just call it a draw. I'd say go
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the win. Otherwise, what's the point in playing that the
team need to be punished and whether it was a
rogue actor regardless on behalf of the team they got
court red handed chucked the book at them. Oh, eight
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on their big signing the Japanese World Cup, rockstar Hiroki
Sakai and Shari kinnear joined us from Paris to the
phones we go. What happens now is this scandal slowly
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but surely gets unpacked. Hi, Craig Evening.
Speaker 8 (19:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, not bad.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
I really enjoy your show. You're really informative and I
find it really interesting to listen to you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Thank you great.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
But but is a butt. I think you're a little
bit I agree with the guests you had on before.
As far as the steps you've taken it, I think
you're a little bit over the top as pharo as
that goes, because I've heard, I've set out in the
media that the person who's flying the drone hadn't release
the footage to the team, so they need to find out.
I believe that if the coach knew nothing about what
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was going on, the team hasn't seen any footage, and
they don't know anything. They've been training for a lot
of time, for a lot of years to get to
this left, and I think it's unfair to penalize all
the players for some shepherd basically dick here that's got
and flowing the drain run twice. It feels bad to
penalize them because I mean, they haven't done anything wrong,
because then it's like how hard do you go do
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you penalize? Say the rblocks are instance, if one of
their players was caught drunk driving before a game something,
then you penalize the entire team. Its yeah, there's a
little bit over the top. I think that you can't
really come up with decision so you know how far
down the corruption goes through their organization. If it's just
what we talked.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
About at the end. Had brought that up with Aaron
and he made good sense around that. I suppose it's
a knee jerk around here, but it's hard now to
trust what they say now that it's been repeated. It's like,
I understand, you get that, and there might be a
rogue actor, as they say, but why would they put
themselves in such a position but only for to make
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the team stronger. I'm just trying to look at Knockham's
raise a situation here, Craig. Look, I know as little
as the rest, but you know what I'm say saying there,
it seems suspicious in itself. Otherwise, why would you go
to all that trouble?
Speaker 8 (21:13):
Yeah, well, what I can't understand. I believe personally that
a lot of teams did nothing about it. But what
I can't understand is why were they taking from the
job the New Zealand team when we're a long way
down the natural leaderboard as far as ranking something that
doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why you would put yourself
in that position or possibly getting caught and causing this
whole incident when the team's not really a big threat.
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It seems stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
It does now, Craig. I've been thinking about that and
I have a theory. It might be a little up
in the air, in a bit strange, but I'll run
it past you anyway, that the New Zealand team in
that group are no threat to Canada. I think we
know that what they're doing or possibly is having a
dry run on how they can do it to the
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next team or how they can do it.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Shul.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
They get through to the next round and they're going, well,
you know, I don't think it's lling. They're going to
be looking at this much of You'll be okay, so
let's just have us see what we can actually get
away with it. That's why they did it twice. It's
France and Colaudia are the other two teams in there.
So you do question that. I think it's the the
repeat nature of the offense that gets me, that starts
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waking me up a little more. It wasn't a one
off act. Moo, I'm sorry, it's oh they keep doing it.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Yeah. Well, I was talking to one of the guys
at work today and he came up with a different
theories said, because Canadians are quite generally known as helpful
and fooful people, maybe because we're so far down the list,
they were flying the drone over our game to see
how that could help us improve. I said, I said,
what sort of stuff have you been smoking this point?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I don't want to be at your workplace. Craig heby,
thanks very much for your call. Thanks for bringing that
point up. Most appreciated. Good day, Tony. What have you
got for us?
Speaker 9 (22:56):
Hey, Darcy? Well, kind of the same lines as Craig.
What about the Canadians are our common our cousins. We
shouldn't be sort of like ostracizing them like for you know,
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it's it's still to be proven, and it's what what
do we know that we flew a drono, they flew
a drone over Okay, that's the tip of the Iceberg.
There's lots of the stuff going on all the time,
not maybe not the Olympics, but you look at the
all black people spying on the training or the Canadians
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are generally.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Must have taken it very seriously because they've seen two
of the staff home and the coach is stood down.
So this is not small beings in their own actions.
Sugg just to me lot more to it.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you. You've got to give you that.
But generally speaking, I think Canadians are They're there in
the Commonwealth. It's like like we have the Commonwealth Games
and I'd hate to see like or.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
For the punch up happened and Tony, look, we had
the Commonwealth Games and if that's going to come back again.
But to think any relationship we've got under the British
flag from centuries ago means nothing in the situation. Oh,
I don't dislike Canadians or Canada I genuinely even very good,
cool people, and that this doesn't reflect on them as
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a nation, but it reflects on their football team, it
reflects on their Olympic organization, and it reflects on the
integrity of something that's supposed to be which I'm going
to laugh when I say this. It's supposed to be
oozing intechnity. Excuse me, the Olympic Games far from that. Anyway,
let's get onto the phones. Good Peter.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
Yeah, I say, hey, look, I don't agree with either
of those last two callers. This is a professional sport.
Our girls have been training just as hard as the Canadians.
To say that they didn't get any advantage from but
this is an assistant coach that's gone out and done it.
So if you don't think that she's going back and saying, well,
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why don't we try this or why don't we try that?
Whether or not she's told the Canadian girls why she's
coming up with a theory as to how to play
or not, it's a different thing. They may not have known,
but she can still use that information in terms of
how she coaches or assist in the coaching of the
Canadian girls, and that puts us at a disadvantage.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
So yeah, I think the.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Planing selling was a right because they've seen her home.
Speaker 11 (25:39):
Yeah, it's outright cheating. The Canadian girls have gotten advantage front,
so I think they should be penalized the fact that
they didn't know I know that's hard, but you know
that's that's just the consequences of being involved in that
particular team. Because they've gotten advantage from it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They should be pedalized and to do nothing and sit
there and want to go by and hope it goes
away by putting out do anyone anyhow any good at
tool is it? They've got to make some form of statement.
But again, what Aaron Lloyd said to us, though, the
depth of that punishment, the breadth of that punishment needs
to be attached to the scale of the offending, and
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that's something that has yet to be workout. But if
it doesn't happen to the last of the Olympic Games,
what's the point, right?
Speaker 11 (26:28):
I think we should be awarded the points and they
should be doped the points for the first game.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Good on your pete up, Thanks very much for your call.
Lines remain open in eight hundred eighty ten eighty twenty
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archery because I'm drawing a very long bow. Thank you
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people are defending the integrity of the Canadian people. This
is not about the Canadian people. It's about a football
team in their Olympic committee. Try and try and work
out the difference if you can. Hey, Pauline, how are you?
Speaker 12 (27:28):
Hello? Darcy? How are you?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm very well. What's on your mind?
Speaker 12 (27:32):
I quite liked Peter's call. That's the last caller, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
Right?
Speaker 12 (27:38):
There are two things here. I think we need to
get hold of the chappie who did the drone flying
and offer him the option of a large fine, or
he comes clean about everything what was said to him
and who told him to do the spying on the
training comps. The other thing is the woman or if
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there were more women or woman women who actually was
involved needs to be banned from professionals.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
You talk about the assistant that got sent back home again.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
If she's the one, although it seems to me an
assistant coach wouldn't be up to this on her own.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
It would appear on the face of it, even though
you can't see the obvious nature of this, that there's
a lot more going on under the skin than we're
being more being nead to know.
Speaker 12 (28:31):
This is why I think we need to offer the
drone flyer a huge fine or he gets to spill
the beans on everything. I still feel that someone who's
capable of doing what they have arranged to be done,
spying on a competitive training practice for gain, needs to
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be banned from professional sport because that's not the spirit
of things.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
No, and the concept of a spirit of sport though
I think has probably died when professionalism got its howks
and this sport anyway. But Pauline, thanks very much for
your core high Stephanie.
Speaker 13 (29:08):
A day, Hey, I reckon they should be made an
example of If they get off lightly, other teams would think, oh,
well they didn't get banned or lose a game or anything,
and we might destroy it ourselves. And as for the
drone person, well, he can say whatever he likes. He
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may have ventually pass to put it on, but he's
saying he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
We don't know, well, this is the thing we've gone through,
the subterfuge, so who is going to trust anything any
of them say I won't or.
Speaker 13 (29:41):
Any of them correct, And that's why they should be
made an example of and lose the game or even
be kicked out of the games complicitly.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well interestingly, people say that's not fair for the athletes,
but life's not fair. Life's a stern father, and by
simple the fact of association, you might end up going
down the gurglar. And now it's not fair for the players,
but you've got to look on a wider scale about
what's actually fair on the Olympic. It's what actually fair
for the teams as opposed to just the individuals affected.
Speaker 13 (30:10):
Yeah, yep, correct, and that's what I reckon. They should
be made an example of so that other things don't
get it in their heads that they'll try.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, let's hope that doesn't happen. Stephanie, thanks very much
for your call. Plenty of texts have come in. It
might run through some of those later on the piece,
but we're going to get in now to a chat
with Steve Carriker. This is actually football on the park.
It's not drones at all, it's a new signing for
Auckland FC. He comes Steve no need tmo.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
We've got the breakdown on sports Talk.
Speaker 8 (30:50):
News Talk.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
We're talking football now here on news Talker z B
and that we're joined by that gatter, the manager of
Auckland FC's we look at the new signing for the
club on international Finally, his name is Helqui Sucker and
Steve Corika. What about him that made you want to
sign him up and drag him over here?
Speaker 6 (31:13):
Well, he's a fantastic player. He obviously fits into the
position that we were looking at. He has tremendous experience.
You know, he's played played seventy four times for Japan,
played in three World Cups, two Olympic Games. He's played
in France, in Germany. You know, he's a wonderful player,
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but wonderful experience abroad as well, and he's going to
be fantastic for the club, for the young players as
well coming through and trying to learn what a professional
footballer is. So I think he's a perfect model role
model for that.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Were there any concerns about the vintage of him, He's
what thirty four years old? Is that presents an issue?
Long term or not.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Steve, well, not long obviously long term we've you know,
he is a little bit older, but you know with
that comes a lot of experience, a lot that he
can bring to the team.
Speaker 9 (32:12):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You know, players these days are playing a lot, a
lot longer than what they used to. So I think,
what he you know what, He's going to be fantastic
for you know, Auckland Football Club. It's going to bring
in a lot of Japanese people hopefully to the to
the games as well. He's got a lovely family. He's
a nice guy, which is important as well that we
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bring the right people to the to the football club.
But yeah, he's he's he's going to be a great
signing for us.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Multi talented and defense. Does he play right across the back?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
Steve?
Speaker 6 (32:45):
He can? He can play right or left fullback. He's
played center back before as well. So it helps in
a salary cap league that we get players that can
play you know, different positions and he covers or all
the positions at the back, which is great for us.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So when you go looking for an import like this,
what do you determine first who's available, who's the best
out be, what position and you need to cover. Is
there an order of important it comes to looking for.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Your Obviously the positions we're looking for is the most
important thing. Then you know we want to we want
to sign obviously good footballers, good people, but also you know,
foreigners that have had the experience. We've got a young side,
so I think, you know, we we do need a
few experienced players. We've got Tommy Smith, I think with
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Hierarchi now as well as another one, he's going to
be a good leader as well, I think. But yeah,
we look at the positions you know, we want, we
want top quality players as well as we look at
the you know, the top five leagues around the world
and if we can find any players that are coming
out of them kind of leagues. So I think we're
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we're doing pretty well. So yeah, there's a lot of
things that we factor in before we make any decision,
but I think Hierarchi fits the bill.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
As far as length of contract, how long have you
got him for.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
He's on a one year contract at the moment. Obviously,
he he has friends here in Auckland, a player playing
for kel United. They used to play with it in
the national team. So he's obviously spoke about Auckland very highly,
and you know that was one of the reasons as
well that I think he wanted to come out here.
That is such a nice place for his family and
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for him to you know, to hopefully stay longer than
one year and you know, have a good time out here.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
So open ended based on how he feels and what
he provides for to.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Get a bit of both. Yeah, if you know, obviously
we want him to have a very good season, but
you know, and he's got to be comfortable here as well,
so we'll see how it goes in the in the
first year. But yeah, I'm sure he'll be here for
longer than one one season.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
A bit of excitement around the club. She getting awfully
close for talking Steve co Okay, he's the manager of
the gap, of the head coach, whatever you want to
be called Steve, I'm not sure. Probably Steve's just as
good of the Auckland Football Club. But it's approaching. The
shadow must be on you now, so we'll hance the
pump all on and having this signing hugely important, but
there must be a few more in the tube before
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you actually get your team together and start practicing. You
wins our nixt announcements.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Yeah, definitely. You know, we've actually we started training. We've
we've played our first in the house game yes yesterday,
which was which was great to get the boys together.
We've still got a few players still to come in,
still go to sign you know, still another five probably
five six players and four of them will be foreigners
as well. So yeah, there's still a little bit a
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little bit to do. Work very hard on them players
as well, because you know, they will be very important
for us because we have a young squad. I think
if we bring in the right foreigners. Now we have
a lot of key replayers. We have three or fours
dans and you know, I think the foreigners will just
top us off.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
That's Steve Karka, their Auckland FC head coach, talking about
the new signing the Japanese International hierockey Saki. Coming up next,
we go to Paris at Shari Kinneya joins us as
we look at the vibe in Paris ahead of the
Olympic Games. Is the news talks he B's been now
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across Live to Paris, where roving reporter Shari Kinnear joins
the broadcast. Arrive what twenty four hours ago you're finally
waking up, getting your feet on the ground. They must
be extraordinarily excited, albeit half asleep, Cherie sure.
Speaker 14 (37:01):
Bunjo from Paris, as you say, when you've been on
the ground for a little while and it's already so
so full on, and even just being in the city,
it's so busy, there's so much happening. So yeah, straight
into it. Not much rest for me, just you know,
straight into this massive task ahead, but so excited to
be here.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
So what have you been charged with? Have they given
you a list like do this, do this, do that?
What's what your primary purpose or focus over there?
Speaker 14 (37:25):
Well, I've been sent over here to cover visuals primarily,
so you'll be seeing me pop up a lot and
videos on the Herald and across our channels. But yeah,
it is really a beast of an event to cover.
Just looking at the schedule, it's just one of those
things where you have to accept you're not going to
be able to get to everything. There's just so much happening.
But yeah, it's just going to be a day to
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day decision. I think in terms of where we're placed,
I've got a two other Herald reporters here as well
on the ground, So we'll just be divvying up every
day and see what we can get to. But yeah,
a lot happening.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
A lot of the Parisians have got all pissy on it.
They've up and left somewhere and we're not dealing with this.
Is there rubbish. We cannot go anywhere is expensive. We
don't like that, Durist. Have you heard anything negative around
the game so far?
Speaker 9 (38:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (38:10):
It was actually an uber yesterday and my uber driver
was speaking to me about how they are quite frustrated
with the games, because he was even finding it really
hard to get me to run, need to go because
so many of the roads are closed. It's just chaos
down at the River Sin because so much of that
area has been fenced off for this ambitious opening ceremony.
So I think for a lot of the locals it's
(38:32):
a little bit frustrating in the sense of the disruption
to the city. But they are happy to have, you know,
the tourists around and have that sort of the environment
and the energy that the games brings. I think it's
just that disruption for their day to day.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
It's the city street. Can he have thrown any bunting up,
can you tell what's happening?
Speaker 14 (38:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, there's plenty of bunting. A lot
of the bars and restaurants have the world flags bunting around,
and I've seen lots of big banners at say Paris
twenty twenty four, and some massive posters up on these
huge buildings they have of you know, big star Olympic athletes.
So yeah, it's pretty clear the Olympics is in town.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Now, what about the the interruption of the sponsors more
than anything else, is the place draped in sponsor flags
and logos and the like as well.
Speaker 14 (39:21):
Yeah, I have seen a few, but yeah, I'm not
sure about like what the I guess what all the
rules are around sponsorship and stuff. But I've seen a
few around sort of sports stores as well. I saw yesterday.
But yeah, most of it's just that real classic Olympics
brandings that I've seen everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Sary Kenney, it joined us from over in Paris looking
here to a few weeks covering the Olympic Games. And
of course one of the big things that a lot
of people, a majority of people are looking forward to
is what you mentioned on that is the opening ceremony
what do you nail around this?
Speaker 14 (39:54):
Yeah, very ambitious opening ceremony to come. So Paris had
decided not to have the opening ceremony in a stadium,
which is of course the more traditional way to do it.
It's actually being held on the river sea, so there'll
be boats carrying athletes and performers that will be traveling
up the river up towards the Eiffel Tower. And so
because it's along the river, they've had to fence off
(40:16):
that area and you have to have applied for a
pass to get into that area so that you can
be vetted. So there's a huge, of course, a massive
security issue around this as well. I know they've deployed
around forty five thousand police officers just for that in
that one area for the opening ceremony. It's sure to
be an incredible ceremony, but I know, logistically it's very
(40:39):
ambitious and let's just hope everything goes to plan. There
are still a couple backup plans to move it to
the Star de France if they need to, but as
it stands, it sounds like everything is still going ahead
along the river.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Flag Bear that's going to be announced early enough tomorrow morning.
Our time. You've got any inside oil on that, Do
you know who's going to pick it up. There's a
number of boxes they have to check before they get
that job, and there's a number of athletes out there.
You got any rumors for Suri?
Speaker 14 (41:08):
Yeah, I haven't fortunately got any rumors as such yet.
I am still waiting to hear some more info on that,
but yeah, I mean it's always a really big talks
about topic. A few people maybe in the mix. Luca
Jones could be one to look out for, even Hayden Wild.
You remember who really rose to fame in the last
Olympic Games, of course, Lisa Carrington, Tom Walsh. There's a
(41:32):
few pig names in there. But yeah, just a few
hours now for us here to see who officially will
be our flag bearers and on Matt.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Well say goodbye, Suri. Can you thank you very much
for that report. We'll be catching up with the Shari
and a regular basis almost come to the end of
the program. Thanks so much for joining us, Thanks for
your calls, thanks for your texts. Quick look at Olympic
action overnight on New Zealand Island and the rugby sevens
for men that's at two thirty am three am. It's
(42:01):
New Zealand v Canada and the women's football and New
Zealander potentially involved in the quarter finals. It might be
at seven a m. Might be one at eight a m.
Depending on results, so keep your eyes locked on there.
You can get coverage, of course through gold Sport on
iHeartRadio and all the stories beyond here at News Talk
(42:23):
z B. I like, thank you zelling football for hiding
under the couch and saying nothing at all. I mean,
come on, guys, something anything, Go on a dare say something. Hello,
Helloa you there up for wise? Yeah are the thanks
(42:44):
for producing mister Duff, I'm gone.
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