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Jason Pine returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:

Canadian sports journo Ben Steiner continuing to follow the fallout from Canada's 'drone gate'.

Dylan Schmidt as he prepares to compete on the trampoline these Olympics.

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Despite a six point deduction, the Canadian women's football team
scored a goal in the twelfth minute of added time
this morning to beat France, who won and stay alive

(01:08):
in their quest for the quarterfinals in the Olympic Football Tournaments.
I'm sure you've caught up with all of this drone
gate stuff. Ben Steiner is a Toronto based reporter and
broadcaster for CBC Sports. He's going to join us in
a moment as the fallout continues over drone gate. Pretty
keen to he your views two. We touched on this

(01:28):
on Weekend Sport yesterday. We can pick up that conversation
again tonight if you fancy it. Speaking of the Olympics,
our first ever Olympics gymnastics medalist was Dylan Schmidt. He
won bronze and the men's trampoline in Tokyo three years ago.
He's back for what will be his third Olympic Games.
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(02:08):
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Speaker 2 (02:18):
So big story ready of the last week with regards
to the Olympic Games. The significant punishments for the Canadian
women's football team at the Paris Olympics. Just to summarize,
FIFA deducted six points from their group tally at the games.
Find them two hundred thousand Swiss francs, which is around
four hundred thousand New Zealand dollars, and head coach Bev

(02:40):
Priestman and two members of her staff banned from all
football activity for one year now. Despite that six point deduction,
which had them obviously, as six point deductions do minus six,
they beat New Zealand that results stood, so they moved
to minus three. This morning, they scored a goal in

(03:01):
the twelfth minute of added time to beat France two
one to move to zero points, and they're still alive
in their quest for the quarter finals. If they beat
Columbia in their third game, they could well go through
to the quarter finals. Astonishing. Ben Steiner is a Toronto
based reporter and broadcast He works for CBC Sports in

(03:25):
Canada and joins us now on Sports Talk. Ben, thanks
for taking the time. Let's start with the game this
morning for those who missed it, tell us about this
late drama in the game between Canada and France at
the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, well it was certainly dramatic, and they left it
until the final moment. In that one, there was thirteen
minutes of stoppage time and I think they ended up
playing around fifteen. But Vanessa yields left footed finish, you know,
the center back gets a rebounded Canada win two on
and now against Columbia, if they win there likely through
to the next round and you know when the penalty
comes down that was supposed to pretty well eliminate Canada

(04:00):
from the tournament. That's not too bad of a result
for the Canadian group.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
BV. Priestman released a statement right before the game. What
did it say?

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It said that she felt terribly and you know, she
apologized and she's willing to go ahead with whatever investigations come,
whether that's from FIFA, the IOC, Kenne Soccer, the canadi
Olympic Committee, really you know, every investigation that's going to
come throughout this. But I thought it was a little
bit suspect to, you know, release a statement about an
hour before the lineup came out, and you know that

(04:32):
serves as a distraction to a player group that already
has so much weight on their shoulders from the situation
that you know, I wonder whether there's some you know,
a rocky relationship there between Prismen and you know, if
she comes back into the group at some point. Of course,
she's suspended from footballing activity for a year, so I
don't imagine that she will. But she is still officially
the coach of this Canadian woman's national team is and

(04:54):
he's spent stepping in on the interm for now, and
we'll have to see she does technically have a contract,
will be ind of twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
What would her motivation have possibly been for releasing a
statement at that time.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I mean, it might be that there's a bit of
a fight going on between her and the player group.
Maybe you know that she felt that the player group
has you know, tarnished the reputation of the Canadian woman's
national team by throwing her under the bus somewhat, and
maybe she feels like she's taken the fall for something
that wasn't her fault. But you know, from my perspective,

(05:27):
I do think that, you know, it's the head coach
that represents the group and she clearly is at fault
for a lot of this. So you know, that rocky
relationship doesn't necessarily surprise me, given the fact that you
know she's at home and the Canadian group is still
alive and kicking at Paris twenty twenty four?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Do you think it was an any why and admission
of guilt the wording of it. I'm going to cooperate
fully with everything coming. My why was that on any
why bin for you? An admission of guilt here?

Speaker 7 (05:55):
Not at all?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I don't think so. You know, she denied and sort
of danced around questions in initial interviews about whether she
had used drones in John Herdman, you know, former New
Zealand woman's coach and former Canadian coach now you know,
then went on to the Kay men's team is now
at Toronto of CNMLS, also denied that he had any
drone footage and had ever used drone at the World

(06:18):
Cup or Olympics. So you know, there's denying, denying, denying,
and we'll see what the investigations come up with. But
I wouldn't buy that the Brisman is too any cinemas well.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
What do you think the investigations will throw up?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I don't think much more than what we've already seen.
There's been a lot of reports from Canadian reporters, international
reporters about what you know this drone situation has been
and it seems like this has been a you know,
systematic thing for Canadian soccer in the last little while.
It's a hefty punishment. Six points at the Olympic Games
practically kicks you out of the tournament and Canada has
done whatever they could to get you know, what's potentially

(06:55):
a perfect group stage and send them through to the
next round. But you know it's they've come down hard.
Canada soccer doesn't have a ton of money. The three
hundred thousand dollars Canadian is going to be a big
slap on the funding for Canada soccer that it's going
to be difficult. Then I think they're being made a
bit of an example of from FIFA, And you know,
I wouldn't expect the Bref Prieston coaches another game with

(07:18):
the national team either.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Do you think any of the players knew.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm not sure. There was a report yesterday that the
men's players did see drone footage of a Huntera's training
session in World Cup qualifying back in twenty twenty one,
So I do think the men's players knew When John
Herdman was their coach who knows about the women's players.
That's not to say it didn't influence the game in
any way, because you know, the coach can see and

(07:47):
see the training sessions and enact tactics to counteract that.
But I'm not confident in saying that the players on
this women's national team there They seemed quite emotional that
they didn't know.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
And in terms of their response, I mean, you could
hardly write that script, could you, You know, gol in
the twelfth minute of added time to beat the host
to one and stay alive even with the six point deduction.
Do you do you sense that it may have galvanized
the playing group?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
I think it might, you know, in some ways, it
seems like a team of destiny at this point that
a win against Columbia puts them through the next round
when they were pretty well all but eliminated. So it
was pretty exciting, and I think this is probably the
most determined group of the tournament.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What do you say happening from here just finally been
What is most likely to play out once the Olympics
is over and this investigation runs its course. What do
you sense as most likely.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
It'll take a lot of time for Canada to rebuild
the public trust in Canada soccer and public faith within
the national federation. But at the end of the day,
I mean, this is a team that really galvanized the
country at the Coop of America on the men's side,
and still has podiumed at the last three Olympics and
could very well podium at these games too. The players
showed today that even in you know, situations where their

(09:04):
backs are against the wall, everything's playing against them, trying
to win in the dying moments, and he played very well.
That second half was probably one of the best half
they've played in the last five or so years. So
you know, there's still a lot of goodwill around this team.
They're still a very good team. I don't think they benefited,
you know, extremely from any of the drone footage, certainly

(09:25):
not against New Zealand, you know where New Zealand looked fine,
but kend it was just the better team on the day.
There's still a top ten team in the world and
I think they'll remain that and I mean to find
success potentially more if they move on to a new
coach and sort of move on to this era.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Thanks Ben appreciate your time on sports talk here in
New Zealand. Ben Steiner, Toronto based sports reporter for c
b C Dromegate. We talked about this a bit yesterday
on weekend Sport. Couldn't get everybody on the air, couldn't
get all the viewpoints across quite came to pick up
on it again if you'd if you're keen to do
that at eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty as

(10:00):
always as our number six point deduction four hundred thousand
dollars fine and coach is suspended for one year. It's
it's a pretty significant punishment. The six point deduction I
think was probably aimed at making sure that they couldn't
advance to the quarterfinals. Unfortunately, the wind this morning keeps

(10:23):
Canada in with a chance. Be that as it may.
I'm quite keen for your view on the player's response
to this. Now, almost to a player, the Canadian team
have pleaded ignorance here. In fact, many of them have

(10:43):
done all they can to frame themselves as victims in
all of this. And look, it may well be true
that they had no idea, or certainly some of them
had no idea what was going on. Here that the
footage were not the footage, they wouldn't have been shown
the footage, right, there's no way that if some whatd

(11:06):
he's operating a drone illegally above an opposition training session,
you're not going to come into the into the prep
session for the next game and say, hey, we've collected
this footage, because all of a sudden you all had
to get that. So what would have been presented to them,
I'm sure the players is, hey, we think X Y Z.
Our you know, analysis of the opponents tells us that

(11:31):
we think they're going to do this or this or this,
and therefore in response, we're going to do this and
this and this. There's no way that that footage would
have been shown to anybody. So it may well be
that the players themselves didn't know. But teams rise and
fall together. You think about on the field, the actions

(11:53):
of one team member impact the entire team, whether it's
positively or negatively. Same goes for coaches. They rise and
fall together. They're teams for a reason. And so much
as they can say, look, we didn't know and we're
being treated unfairly, they are not, you know, victims here.

(12:14):
I don't think I reckon they should have been kicked out.
My view is that Canada should have been kicked out
of the Olympics. The fact that they didn't necessarily benefit
from the footage they obtained against New Zealand I don't
think is actually a factor here. Just because they seemed
to drone up, took some footage, brought it back and
didn't actually need it because they were a better football

(12:35):
side than New Zealand doesn't actually matter here. It's the
act of doing it. I really feel as though they
should have been kicked out. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk call oh eight
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Speaker 2 (13:00):
Seven twenty two. Craig says, evening Jaestion and you make
a good point. This is the Olympics, the pinnacle of sport.
If you get caught cheating, you should be gone, thanks, Craig.
John says Jason. I think if they qualified, they shouldn't
go through. Yeah, well, they should probably should given them
a minus nine points. Shouldn't they to ensure that, Trevor,
what have you on this?

Speaker 8 (13:19):
Hey, Jason Ryan, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I'm good.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I'm probably the only one now. I mean, I
just cannot believe the enormous, enormous reaction to what they've done.
I mean, so the French, so you know, they actually
French government, they were punished by French law by putting
probably security risks at the Olympic Games. I mean, they've
already the problems with the trains and that, but they
didn't actually do anything wrong with the breaking any laws

(13:45):
in France using a drone.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, there is actually a no fly zone over Paris
at the moment, Trevor.

Speaker 8 (13:51):
So they did, oh well, I got well for me,
I mean, French government kicked him out for doing that,
because to me, that's just a dumb, stupid and quite
a dangerous thing to do drones during the Olympics with
the amount of security that's here. I mean, yeah, kicked
them out for that. But I'm just not too sure
spying on a training run. So there most difference between them.

(14:12):
Southfield's a game before that, two days before that, and
the French had six people there watching that game.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Is that okay, Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, no, all of
that starts fine, Trevor watching footage of previous games that's
out in the open, you know, in the public domain.
Absolutely no problem with that. The difference here is this
was a closed private training season that they had a
drone hovering above.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
No, I just I just cannot especially when the French
government say, oh, you're on the plane home. You could
have caused the massive security fixed at the Olympic Games
and they got sent home for that. I mean, I
could understand that being absolutely major, but I just remember
the all that years ago. Remember people were spying them
on their training runs, and they're almost taking a bit

(14:55):
of a joke. Really, remember they used to trim fence
off the grounds.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
And that they still honestly, they still do that. They
still put up the black the black screens around the
tre training so that nobody can peer in. Obviously with
drones you just have her above those. But yeah, yeah,
there is This was pointed out to me yesterday on
the show that there is actually a no fly zone
at the moment over Paris. So any drone regardless of

(15:19):
its you know, of its activity or its use is
not allowed in most circumstances at the moment because, as
you rightly point out, it's a security thing. So yeah,
but to be fair, the French government aren't going to say, look,
you put a drone up, we're going to We're going
to kick you out of the country. That's far too punitive.
I think you know that. I think Fiefa are the
ones here too to hand down the sanction, and they have.

(15:43):
I still think they should have been kicked out. Thanks Trevor, Derek,
what are your views?

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yeah, I think your views getting kicked out. I notice
an absolute loaded Also, so the defending champions. I waited
them four years ago. They were absolutely fantastic. And to
kick out of the Fennie Champions win the gold medal.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
You can't, yeh, yeh can't based on how good they are, Derek,
Come on, that's like saying that if we did it,
it's okay for us to go home because we're not
that good.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
I think what you should have done. They should have
saved their drone power. They could have given me a
call at work.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I've got to told them in five.

Speaker 7 (16:12):
Minutes out to meet the new deal. Honestly, the subjective
that they can't defend against pace they never have been
able to do, and they can't score goals and all
they really had to do was put through it in
the back.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
This is what the is.

Speaker 7 (16:22):
The last couple of times they played New Zealand play
a couple of wing backs just run around the outside
of them and create numerous chances. All they have to do.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
I think they're probably I think they probably had a
drone up. This was the one that got they got caught.
I reckon. I've had drones up over every over every team.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
Yeah, of course, loads and loads of teams do it.
I was I was watching part of the interruption the
other night in America and they said, you can't even
go anywhere in the sports field these days without running
into a budget drones. Everyone's looking at everyone else. These
closed training sessions that old Trevor was just talking about,
and I have never they They could have a thousand
closed training sessions. I guarantee you you and I watched

(17:01):
that New Zealand woman's scene, there would be nothing that
would surprise us. And anything they do in ninety minutes now,
I think the Canadian team is showing tremendous character to
win those two games and they've wiped that deficit out
now and now they're going against Columbia and it's not
like Australia has to go up against the USA and
their final game. This is a game that they can
actually win Canada and then go on from there. And
I think this whole thing and it's funny how what

(17:23):
little incidents will big instance in this case, bring a
team together. And it wouldn't surprise me if they beat
Columbia and then go on they have a real good
run at the Olympics, because the Olympic Football end for
women's is not like the men's. It's one of two
of their biggest tournaments they have to play over four years.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Imagine if they won it against Imagine if they won
the gold medal.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
Again, wouldn't it be a movie that you just had
to write.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I think you're right. I mean, actually, I don't know.
If you watch Columbia play the Ferns, I quite like
the look of Columbia. You know, I've watched obviously both
the Ferns games, so I've had to look at Canada
head to look at Columbia. I quite like the way
Columbia played. I don't reckon they'll be easy beats for Canada.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
Yeah, but once again, I just get the feeling that
the two white girls for Canada have got real place.
And I think I think at one stage it was
a little bit of a Christiana Ronaldo Portuguese thing going
on when they had when they had Christine simply are
playing through the middle. I thought she was past her
best four years ago and they used her sparingly, and
I thought she started a lot of games because she
was such a big name in women's football and Canada.

(18:23):
But now they've got some new girls coming through the middle,
got a lot of energy in midfield. And I think
the other night when they had the I mean today
obviously when they're up against France and they had to
put on a real good second half display, they really
play some good football. I mean, okay, it was nowhere
near as dramatic as an Australians den.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
I say that.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
I do not believe what I was watching. But look
the Aussies, I think are going to run out of
run out of form, run out of luck, and run
out of time. I watched the USA team. They looked
really selected, they really nice, really fast. I think they
could be out of the competition and that will be
a huge blow to them. But but this Canadian side,
they've got something that's drawing them together now. And I
think if you ask any professional player about drones and

(19:05):
tactics and all the rest of what the other team
is doing, they will turn around and say, I don't
care what the other team is doing. We'll do what
we're going to do. This is what all the top
clubs and all the top players always say, don't worry
what the other team is doing. We'll just do what
we're doing. And I think that's what Canada's doing at
the moment. The focus has been huge for them and
I'm right behind them now and I just won't know

(19:26):
how many people I share in my view.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Good on you, Derek. Always love chadding to you, mate.
I think a few people probably do. Apparently, when they
went out there against France, the French crowd were applauding them.
I'm not sure they are applauding them after the winner
and the twelfth minute of out of time. Jason and
I agree, says Lisa. Canada should have been kicked out
if they win, regardless of the six point deaficit. It
just makes a mockery of the crime and it's subsequent penalties.

(19:49):
It would send an empty message to any others who
may like to try their luck. Thanks Lisa, appreciate that.
Come on, Pinety, these Canadian team members are complicit. They're
now paying playing the distraction game. Look at the hand,
Look at the hand, Look at the hand. Nothing to
see over here. Yes, stumping all on the coach, but
not us. We were just the unfortunate team members.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
No way.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
They knew exactly what was going on, and we're happy
to go on with it as well at the expense
of other teams who weren't cheating. Thanks Maca, I appreciate it.
Up on you, I think the drone was over Niae,
not Parish. Yeah, you're right. Actually so maybe the same
rules don't exist there. Apparently, Angers says the French gave
them a seven month suspended sentence and finally White cheat
though can that ever be a win? Seven twenty nine

(20:32):
Very soon, Dylan Schmidt looking to go back to back
on the podium at the Olympic Games. Our top men's
trampolinist going to join us out of Paris.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
No news talk, said the Olympic Games News update.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Good evening, shoot Owen Robinson begins the New Zealand action
on day three of the Olympics program. Robinson in action
and men's trap qualification. From about now. Elana Sherman and
Kate Haynes have the women's peer rowing riper change she
had half past eight. It's the final show jumping phase
at the Equestrian today. The eventing team had in sixth,
Tem Prices ninth, Clark Johnstone twelfth and Janelle Price forty

(21:07):
first in the individual ranks ahead of the show jumping.
The Krewe's adding team back in action tonight William McKenzie
and Isaac McCarty leading the forty nine A fleet in
the pick of the New Zealand cruise so far. Samuel
Gaze has the men's mountain bike cross country from just
after midnight. The New Zealand tenn's doubles team of Aaron
Ratliff and Sarah Rani sorry Aaron ratlif and Ludu's sun

(21:28):
Face Sarah Ronnie and Jasmine Paulini after their first round
match was delayed at Role on garyl S yesterday. The
women's seven side roundout paul play against Fiji from half
past two and looking about twelve hours in the future.
Eric A Feirweather has her two hundred meter freestyle final
at seven forty one. I'm Elliott Smith on News Talk
ZB official radio broadcast partner of the Olympic Games, Paris

(21:50):
twenty twenty four. Watch Owen Robinson in the trap shooting
from now on Skysport Paris five, Sky Channel fifty seven.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Top work, Thanks Elliott. Elliott Smith, part of our commentary
team through the nights on gold Sport and iHeartRadio. They're
on the air now and will be until there are
no more. Kiweis in action in the in the breakfast
hours of tomorrow twenty nine away from eight. Dylan Schmidt
made his Olympic debut at Rio twenty sixteen, becoming the
first ever ki We to compete in trampoline at the

(22:18):
Olympic Games, finishing seventh. Three years ago, he won our
first ever Olympics Gymnastics medal bronze in Tokyo and.

Speaker 9 (22:26):
He's stylish to start now, he'll need to gain some
height getting himself.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Ready for his last jump, and it's a very good routine.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Well done, Dylan SCHMIDTZ we'll I'll be cheering for him
back home in Auckland and Tia now and a sixty
points six seven five. He's into second spot.

Speaker 8 (22:48):
That woll.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Okay Litvinovich has done it for Belarus. They've through different
men one consecutive gold medals, Dom Gong second and Dylan
Schmidt of New Zealand third.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
What a competition and what a performance from Dylan Schmidt
three years ago in Tokyo, back for a third Olympics,
he joins US Now Live from Paris. Dylan, thanks for
taking the time first of all mat three time Olympia.
And that's pretty cool, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Yeah, it's not bad. It's yeah, it's pretty exciting.

Speaker 10 (23:20):
It's nice to be in the village and actually have
a bit more freedom than three years ago. Yeah, this
village is pretty awesome and yeah, enjoying it, enjoying it
so far.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I want to ask you about Tokyo in a moment,
but how you're feeling a few days out from your
competition in Paris.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Yeah, it feel good. Yepp's been great.

Speaker 10 (23:39):
The champs over here are really nice and yeah, it's
a good vibe and I've been enjoying training and things
are going well.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
So I'm just ticking over.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Got a day off today and then a few more
days of training and then we're into it.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So as you approach, you know, the final few days
ahead of such a pinnacle event like this, I mean
you hear about tapering off or you know, what does
your final few days of preparation look like?

Speaker 10 (24:02):
To be honest, it's just kind of getting on the tram,
getting the body moving and you're trying to feel and stuff.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
I wouldn't particularly call it training. All the training's done.

Speaker 10 (24:10):
I just get up, you know, sort of roll through
the motions and sort of go through the skills that
I'm going to be doing, maybe bang out a couple
of routines and stuff like that, and just get the
feel for things that maybe aren't quite clicking, and just
try and get those little things to click. And yeah,
really just kind of enjoy the trainings and you know,
my bodies and great shapes. The training is feeling like
relatively easy, which is always nice, and just really enjoy

(24:33):
it and just.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Take my time and yeah, just kind of take it easy,
really good stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Your event's Friday night, Friday night, your time Saturday morning
over here for us to tune in and take it
all in. Can you tell us still on about the format,
what lies ahead? Of you on on Friday night over there.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, she's all.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
It's a bit different to normal, and it all gets
all over pretty quick. My event starts at Sex AND's
over at eight thirty. That includes the final six pm
over here, eight thirty pm finish. So basically there's sixteen
of us split into two flights, and yeah, the first
flight march out, do their routine, then we'll march out
to our routine. We do get two chances now to

(25:13):
get into the final, so we'll hopefully I'll only do
one run routine to stay fresh, and that routine should
be good enough to make the final.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
And then basically it's just like straight final march out.

Speaker 10 (25:23):
People who don't who don't qualify leave and we stay
and do another routine and that's all.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
That's all. That's that's all, it's all all that happens.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
So it's yeah, it's pretty pretty small and pretty pretty quick,
unusual really for us.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
But I've done it twice now obviously, so I know
what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So it's a voluntary routine. There's no compulsory routine that
you do. You just put in a voluntary routine as
you've outlined. You get hopefully only one. You do do
it once, do it well, you're into the final. But
it's just the voluntary routine.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Yep, that's correct. So that's different from in Tokyo.

Speaker 10 (25:55):
So in Tokyo, yep, we had to do a set
like voluntary compulsory routine that was like an easy routine
and then that got added on to our voluntary score.
But the cycle they've changed the rules so there's no
more compulsory for seniors anymore. We just do a voluntary
Usually it's your best your best two to get into
semi finals, and then you've got one chance in semi
finals to get into finals and then finals one chance again.

(26:16):
But because there's only sixteen us, this will be the
first competition where like any of us would have had
you know, two chances to get into the final. So
it's likely going to be that to get into the final,
the score is going to be a little bit bigger
because you know you've got two chances. But you know,
we'll see it's it should be should be interesting, but
I'm definitely ready for it.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Good on you mate, well as I understand it. So
the score is a combination of difficulty, execution and time
of flight. Is that still the case?

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (26:46):
Then there's one more element as well, which is basically
a horizontal displacement. So if you land on the cross,
you get zero Marx off and sort of every sort
of box you leave from the cross you start to
get deductions. So there's that that's the only other extra
part of the score that that's out of them as well.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Are you as you gain more experience, I mean, you've
been doing this for a while now, as this third
Olympic Games, are you finding yourself trying more things, trying
different things, or are you just trying to do the
same things better.

Speaker 10 (27:16):
I mean, you're always trying to do the same things better.
But you know, this games, I'm doing a pretty difficult routine.
I sort of have to if I want to be,
you know, up there with it with those guys. So yeah,
definitely a little bit different to last games. I'm putting out,
you know, my third skill and this routine is what
I started my routine with in Tokyo, So I'll definitely
steping that aspect up. But yeah, obviously trying to maintain

(27:39):
my height, trying to maintain my execution and stuff as well.
So yeah, I mean, for me, this this competition is yes,
basically go hard or go home. Like, I'm just giving
it everything, you know, obviously do my best and the routines.
You know, feeling good, so I'm definitely ready. But you
know it's almost like at this point and sort of
where where the sport's at is, you've got to sort

(27:59):
of take a few risks if you want the rewards,
which for me is quite exciting. You know, I'm really
really excited that, you know, I actually have to have
to pish myself a bit more than just kind of
staying in my comfort zone.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
I guess so good.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
So the difficulty part of it, the difficulty part of
the score is where you can really boost your score.
Is is that a fair assessment?

Speaker 10 (28:19):
Yeah, Difficulty and and time of flight are the two
big ones. So you've been working on that pretty hard
the last little while.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
You were world champion in twenty twenty two. How much
confidence does that give you that you can get on
the top of the podium here.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Yeah, I'm hugely I know I can perform when it
counts and under pressure, and you know that's just basically
what I have to go out and do this Friday
is just you know, handle the pressure better than anyone
else and do my routine like I know I can,
and if I do that, then you know I'm in
with a shot. So yeah, I mean, as I said earlier,
like it's just exciting to be in that position. I'm

(28:56):
just I'm really ready to go and then looking forward
to it.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
How strange your games was, Tokyo?

Speaker 10 (29:02):
Yeah, she was pretty she was pretty different. Yeah, it
kind of felt very much like a business trip. Just
fly in, stick to yourself and try out to get
COVID and then then hit out. Do you do your
camp and then leave. Obviously, you know, even if you
went sick, if you tested positive, actually games over.

Speaker 6 (29:21):
So it was pretty pretty stressful, but you know, it
was it was.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It was.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
It was fine like it was.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
It was easy to easy to focus and dial in.
Obviously there's a lot more distractions around, like when the
games is like this, But you know, I'm kind of
I'm pretty locked in and feeling feeling like fairly similar
leading to to Tokyo. You keep it to myself and
enjoying it and enjoying the social aspect of it a
bit more. But you know, when I'm at training, it's yeah,

(29:47):
it's all it's all just you know what and what
I know I need to do.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, I guess in Tokyo as well, when you looked
up into the stands as you would normally at a competition,
I guess to see people look for familiar faces. There
wouldn't have been any there because I guess no one
could travel, could they during COVID. Have you got a
support crub in the stands this time?

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Yeah, I got awesome support crew, So so mom and
dad in today and then I've got like five or
six mates that are going to be watching as well
from school and other areas of my life. So yep, Yeah,
it's going to be great. I'm looking forward to it.
Having a crowd is going to be amazing. It's always fun,
so yeah, that's that should definitely bring a bit more
excitement to the to the arena, not fake fake crowd

(30:26):
noises from the speakers, you.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Know, exactly exactly. Just to finish, mate, when you're standing
there just about to start, what are the final few
things that go through your mind? Or do you just
try and clear your mind as you're about to start
a routine.

Speaker 10 (30:41):
Yeah, for the most part, it's just you know, try
and clear the mind, and you know, just tell myself
basically that it's it's just just a sport, right, Like,
whatever happens, just enjoy it, have fun, embrace the moment,
and just be happy with whatever happens, because you know,
all the work that I've put in is there, and

(31:03):
you know, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be.
If it's not, it's not, it's all good. I'll go
home and still have a pretty awesome life. So just
really like kind of like stay grounded, stay put everything
into perspective, and you know, kind of just take that
weight off your shoulders a little bit before you go,
let yourself free. And then generally that's where my best
performance has come as when I'm really free of free

(31:25):
of outcome and free of emotion and just going out
there and just having fun and enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Absolutely love it, mate. We can't wait to watch over
the side of the world Saturday morning as we as
we get ready for our weekends. I know you're only
focused on this. Are we chatting again in four in
four years when you're a four time Olympian?

Speaker 8 (31:42):
Are we?

Speaker 9 (31:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Mate?

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Definitely?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Hey, beauty, good on you mate, Thanks thanks for checking in.
All the best for the for the final bit to
your preparation, Dylan, thanks for taking the.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Time, mate, No way, thanks a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Dylan Schmidt, our first ever gymnastics medalist at Olympic level
bronze and Tokyo three years ago. Sounds like a fairly
relaxed character. He's been there and done that. It'll be
be one worth watching. Absolutely medal chants, absolutely, without doubt,
a medal chance for us. He's won one already. You'd

(32:13):
have to think that he's got another opportunity when the
trampolining rolls around on Saturday morning seven forty one. Someone
said here that Owen Robinson and Chloe Tipple need to
hang around with the women's football team during training a
bit more. Yes, of course there are are shooters at

(32:34):
the Olympic Games. In fact, I think Owen Robinson, from
what Elliot Smith was saying before, as an action in
the qualification for the means trap shooting around about now.
Actually so yeah, he's probably got other things on his
mind rather than shooting down drones. But I do like
the I do like the sentiment what are we eighteen
to seven, eighteen to eight, Let's get a breakaway when

(32:55):
we come back. I want to give you the the
things to look out for tonight and overnight on day
three of competition proper at the Tokyo Olympics. Oh, it's
the Paris Olympics. Tokyo was three years ago. The Paris Olympics,
including shooting, equestrian sailing, tennis, canoe slalom, rugby sevens and

(33:18):
mountain bike cross country. And before we knock it on
the head at eight o'clock and hand it over to
Marcus Lush, Piney's power rankings as well. Lines remain open.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, text back
at a moment.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Rankingsway.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yes, we're underway as we rate the week. Piney's Power
rankings a big part of our Monday night. Let's get
into it. Ten our men's sevens that did not go
to plan?

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Did it?

Speaker 4 (33:48):
South Africa?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
We'll kick it dead.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
New Zealand's gone metal hopes are over.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Nine.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's move quickly on to Canada football. Make what you
will of their punishment, but the team is fighting hard
through adversity. Heck, we have nothing of this.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
We haven't sluphed in the last three days. We haven't eaten,
We've been craying.

Speaker 10 (34:11):
I wouldn't say they're ideal performing situations, but we've held
each other through it and we've had absolutely nothing to lose.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
So to be fair, they are not really the victims
here are they cheat? Eight? Our swimmers A heartbreaking start
to the Olympics. In the pool for the kiwis a.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
R aunt tedmus when's gold and it's fourth for Erica Fairweather.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Marshall wins an Olympic record time of four O two
nine five, claire Bert fading near the end, and Lewis
Clairebert came home in sixth place. And that leads on
to seven which is some very interesting feedback on Sunday's
Weekend Sports show. Let's start with what I said after
eric A fair Weather's final. I just felt gutted for her. Often,

(34:55):
you you know, you get a generational swimmer right to
Michael Phelps. But in that field there are there are
three absolutely generational swimmers that eric A fair Weather came
up against, and it is no disgrace to be fourth
behind those three Ladecki, Titmas Macintosh, three absolutely outstanding swimmers,
as is eric A fair Weather. Now, for some reason

(35:18):
that seemed to ruffle a few Feathers on our text line,
give fear Weather a break. She's just twenty years of age.
Coming forths is awesome. She's a bubbly person with a
whole career in front of her. Stop down playing her.
And this as well on text from Bob Jason. You've
been going on all morning about eric a Fairweather losing.
Just leave her alone. She had bloody well in most
people's eyes except yours. I doubt you'll read this out
because the truth hurts. I'm still a bit confused about

(35:40):
what Bob actually heard.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Six.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
The Mystics since the return of Grace Wacky, they are
forced to be reckoned with.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
It's not gonna matter because the defending champions will.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Have the chance to go back to back next week
in Welmington.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, good luck against the polsy gouts.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Five.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Simone Biles. One of the greatest things about Olympic Games
is when you stare at something and go what an
author I witnessed? How was it possible? Will we ever
see the like of it again? I doubt that she
has wowed on her Olympics return. Sometimes one seeks to
say intelligent things, Sometimes one just stares, open mouthed in

(36:22):
awe at the quality of an athlete's performance, and that's
terrific commentary there, sure, and Twin du Pont, what been
a plier to lead France to Olympic rugby seven's glory?

Speaker 6 (36:34):
It's two pints?

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Who else on a big occasion may have just helped
seal the deal. For a famous moment in French sporting
history tree Chanelle Harris taveda bounce back ability he kicked
one is your kick this time? Chanel nails hid everybody's

(37:02):
heavy what about that?

Speaker 7 (37:03):
For an a pause?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I thought that was just so great. Selene Dion her
return performance as part of the opening ceremony for the
Olympic Games was truly something to behold. Absolutely spine tingling

(37:36):
stuff from Selene. But she's not number. That goes to
our very own Andrew Alderson, who found out commentating the
dressage as it always smooth sailing, Jules moving and jewels,
actually just dropped the guts on the stand here unfortunately,
so I'm not sure you get marked out for that.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Anyway, how unfortunate into a candidate now.

Speaker 11 (38:07):
Drama the.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
I just thought that was tremendous.

Speaker 11 (38:20):
Piney, you've got one of the greatest wordsmiths. In this building,
in Andrew orders and absolutely unable to speak through a
dressage commentary.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
At number one.

Speaker 11 (38:32):
Yes, I think you've got a suggest bart of excellence
to choose from, and Celine dion Chanel du Ponts and
one in the Northern Mystics as well. Yeah, and yet
you're gonna I'm gonna have to take these the the
duty of ranking these power rankings off you at this rate,
although though you made the right call at number one.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Actually, in hindsight, Piney's power rankings part of our Monday
They're back next Monday night on News Talks d B
seven to eight, John says, Piney, how can you leave
out the Rams? Yeah? John, you make a good point.
I should have probably acknowledged the Canterbury Rams, who what

(39:15):
they waited thirty one years for a National Basketball League
title and then two came along at once. They were
terrific right across the season. And I also must give
a nod to the fans who turned up at Cowl's
Stadium week after week to support the Canterbury Rams. Well
done to them National Basketball League champions for twenty twenty four.
I probably should have given them a mention. I actually

(39:37):
should have mentioned Sammy Maxwell as well. In hindsight, we
can't fit everybody into the power rankings. But Sammy Maxwell's
eighth at the at the Paris Olympics in the mountain biking,
I thought was a terrific effort for someone who wasn't
even going to be there, matched only by her her
post race interview with Sky over there. He's just a

(39:59):
little bit of it.

Speaker 11 (40:00):
So so special.

Speaker 9 (40:01):
I last year I didn't even think I was going
to go come to the Olympic. I didn't even think
I was gonna cry. And it's been a long time
to get here. So I'm just say, have Peter put
it together. I noticed so many people back home will
watch him, and I just I wanted to do them proud.
This is just pretty pretty happy.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
To be here.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah yeah, Sammy Maxwell, great stuff, big future ahead of
her right in our immediate future. What do we have
to look forward to on Day three at the Paris
Olympic Games and where might the solusive first medal come from? Well,
men's trapshooting qualification. First of all, Owen Robinson's in action
there at the moment, Our eventing team in the day
three or the three day event rather show jumping. Now

(40:45):
we're sixth. As far as the team is concerned that
it potentially could become become metal material, our individuals seem
a little bit further back. But Tim Price ninth, Clark
Johnston twelfth, Janelle Price forty. First, you have to have
a clear round in the show jumping, I presume, and
then I hope others drop some rails, so we'll keep

(41:07):
an eye on that. Tennis Aaron Ratliffe and lulusun in
women's doubles action. Our sailors are back out there, Isaac
McCarty and William McKenzie in the forty nine er. This
is the boat that Billing and Chuck sailed with such
distinction in previous Olympic Games. They started really well after
three races their first unfortunately, Joe La and Molly Meach
and the forty nine at FX had a rather more

(41:28):
difficult date. That's so Josh Armott and Vela ten half
get out there in the wind foiling as well. That's
the new windsurfing category. Sam Gays in the mountain bike
cross country for men. That's the equivalent to Sammy Maxwell's
race for the men. Our rugby sevens, they're back in action.
They were good against Canada yesterday.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Just before halfway Felix Hothen though timed up beautifully. Bit
of a flex from Felix Hotham don't offers on purpose
on off as she waited for the Canada would be
defender to come in for the tackle and then sets
off down the blinds and Ja's been Felix Otham, New
Zealand's fourth of the match.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
So two from two our women's sevens. They play fee
G at two point thirty in the morning and then
have their quarterfinal around breakfast time, so we'll I look
forward to seeing how they go there. And Erica Fairweather
will swim another Olympic final in the two hundred meter
free style. So lots to look out for, lots to
listen out for listening to gold Sports coverage overnight of

(42:29):
the Paris Olympic Games and all the big moments here
on News Talk Said Beat Huge thanks to Andy McDonald
for producing the shows always, thanks for listening in and
taking part. Marcus Lush takes you through the rest of
your Monday after eight o'clock and I'll be back's trying
to think at some stage, no doubt. Midday Saturday for
weekend sport See then.

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