July 31, 2024 • 41 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting day in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
Ruby Tui on the Black Ferns Sevens bringing home New Zealand's first medal at the Paris Olympics.
TVNZ sports reporter Guy Heveldt on the men's and women's triathlons going ahead, despite concerns about the Seine.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
from News Talk Zed be.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, how are you welcome into sports still names Darcy Watergrave.
It is seven minutes after seven o'clock. Coming up on
this evening's program, We're gonna wallow in the glory of
the women, the Black Ferns, who picked up their third
consecutive Olympic medal, their second goal medal on the bounce.
This is an all time great team that provided what
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we're all after as far as the medal count was concerned.
It's finally started and they did it. I won't say
the easy way either. They were well pushed. They were
well pushed in the two games that led up well
the final of course in the semi final as well. Eventually,
even with a yellow card or a two minutes out
of the out of the games to Porsche Wooman Wickcliffe
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had still managed to get the job that it was
an extraordinary result, something that we can all be rightly
proud of, and their side, this team could almost argue
that they are the best team to represent. You said
at the Olympics that you might argue that it might
be a stretch. I know there are other teams who
have done particularly well, but what these women have done
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over the last three Olympic Games has really been nothing
short of astonished. And we'll take your thought cause and
thoughts on that and the look as well at Porsche Woodman.
She leaves this game as arguably the goat. Now I've
been reading and hearing arguments that's saying that when it
comes to sevens, she is the best of the best
and better than any of the men that we've had
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playing as a player. Flat out, she should really retire
right at the top of the mound. Do you believe that?
Is that good for you? Is that right for you?
Does she really have that much money within rugby and
sporting circles in New Zealand. Anyway, we'll talk about that
later on on the Beasts. We hope to get to
Paris at some stage for the end of the program
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as well, we're going to catch up with one of
our correspondents. There's plenty of them lurking around on the queues.
And also keep you up today what's going on in
the triathlon, because the women are currently competing all the
two New Zealand entries, though unfortunately aren't really within Kewy
of the lead. I suppose the one we're really looking
forward to is the men's event when that gets underwagh,
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what an hour and a half's time? All right, enough
of all of that. Ruby Twoey is going to join
us next to talk about her teammate, to talk about
the victory, which was fantastic. Ruby is up next. But
before we do that, let's do this today. Dadden's for
today a black Fern and seven's made more history backing
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up there. Took your goal with another one, Okay, Bla
gave the Aussies an assist after seeing them when the
seven series a couple of months ago. That gave them
enough to pile on and to.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Come up against a Black Friends sevens team after a
loss really sucks because we are very angry and we
have high standards in our environment. So we went into
the Olympic Games with the emotion of redemption but also
the emotion of stamping our mark in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And she was outstanding. That score at the start of
a second half that really triggered it for the rest
of the game. Kemmi Trothy, Hayden Wild He's not messing around.
He's armed himself to the teeth, not with weapons, but
with support ahead of tonight's Olympic Men's event through the
open sewer.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I've invested a ton into this, you know. I bought
my own chef, bought my own physio training partners, so
I've put a lot of work into it. As my
manager said, you'll kick yourself if you don't invest everything
you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Down away from the games, because yes there is other
sport a though most of us have just ignored it.
Mystics coach Artier Care has reflected on the positives of
a very tough, injury affected season the head of this
weekend's final of the am Z Premiership against the Pulse.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We did go through a pitch that was really rough
when you're doing it a bit tough. That teaches the
team a lot and the real gold out of that
is that all our players had significant playing time. So
now I've got a full team that can take the
court and I'm confident in their abilities.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And Blues and Auckland and all Blacks winger has signed
on the dotted line to stay with the in z
ah CADL Clark has committed only to the end of
next year. Nothing strange in that that he claims.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I'm just the one step at a time kind of
perth and then just sort of that one years what
allowed me to really focus on the now and just
allows me to kind of put my best foot forward
in terms of playing these as many games as I
can this year.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And what.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Join now in sports talk about Ruby Tilley, of course,
gold medal winner, silver medal winner with the New Zealand
at women's at seven side the Black Ferns at seven's.
She of course is no longer there, but keenly watching
all of the action. She joins us, Now, what an
amazing result, Ruby Tiwey, how good?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Well, so good, mate, It's so good. And you know
it's just been such a long time coming for the girls.
They've been through so much adversity. They really just had
to come together in this final moment, you know, biggest
crowd ever for women rugby event. It's just it was
so beautiful to watch, man, It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Did it feel a bit stink that you weren't actually
there competing with your old teammates in that huge stadium,
that massive crowd.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
It's funny because we've all been setting like all the
girls who run Gold Life Time, who aren't there this time,
and we're like a couple of them. We've got a
phonebo I don't know. I have a feeling of like,
you know, everything happens for a reason. Everyone who's there's
really meant to be there, and Jesus made us been
bloody over a decade running around on it a seven fields.
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It's pretty for anyone. So I'm happy I am in
the fifteenth now, and I'll tell you that ADMIN and
the Olympic Games, it's like no other so other girls
have been through so much to that point, so prusonally,
I'm just happy how it is. I think it happened
how it's supposed to be. But that's not not a
couple of answers I got at six am this morning.
I tell you that we.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Know Ruby that women's rugby and sevens has gone from
strength to strength of recent times. But there's an argument
now that sees with silver gold now black to black
and other gold medal, they really have reached the high
point of women's sevens.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I think it's huge, mate, It's such a significant moment
and how much we have grown our women's rugby and
our women's program and just having it in front of
people's eyes, you know, in front of all these young
girls eyes, and we see so much talent at a
grassroots level, at a rep level, and we want them
all to stick into the sport. And you know what
the girls have gone out there and done is just
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showed that there is a system there that works, and
there is something there that's worth protecting, that's worth investing in,
and it's worth just carrying on forward. That like when
we won gold last time, or even the silver before
that in Rio, it wasn't the first ever medal, Like
I remember being in the village both times when the
first medal was won, and it's such a huge event,
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you know, for the athletes as a team, for all
the liaison offices, which are often ex athletes that are
in the village running things. It's a huge moment for
that New Zealand team. And so you know, to walk
out with gold, with the girls heads high, with you know,
all the stuff they've been going through. Man, they've gone
through so much and to do that to a New
Zealand team for the country, it's a huge moment bow
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and it just shows we got some real good going
on here and this woman rugby in this country man,
it's Epics.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Must be great for the sport ruby when you consider
the athletes that are moving off to the n r L.
Now there's this route again, this route that's been rubbish
stamped to say, hey, you stick with us, you could
get an Olympic medal. But I suppose on the other side,
it's all about getting paid, right, It's all about the benjamins. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Look, I think this gold is extremely important because no
matter what you say, I know all the great rugby
players and rugby at the moment, and no matter what
you say, money, contracts, anything is nothing like an Olympic medal.
I can tell your first hand. It's always always got
to be tempting for the most talented, most paid out there.
And so for the girls to go out and win gold,
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that's going to sit in their heads. You know, all
the girls in W and L, there's some of them
that could be Olympic championship if they wanted to. And
this moment is going to sit heavy in their books,
you know. So it's not just important to show women's growth,
it's important to be remembered by all the women who
are signing really big contracts. Now, you know, like oh, jeez,
maybe I could you know, Jeff sevens for wood and
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come back to rugby. So it's a pretty big moment
in that context too. But as I say, fifteen is
you know we're thriving over here too. You know, our
w's driving. Everything's gone really good. So it's just healthy
for all the talent that's out there because there's so
much there's if a boy out there, do I go
down the fields, we haven't even there's so much untapped
talent out here that haven't even chosen what they're going
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to play yet that we need to grab. So this
is justus we're going man.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think epic is probably the right word to describe
the contribution of Sarah Henny over the time she's been
involved with the Sevens and again coming back from a
massive surgery to be instrumental in that victory today over Canada.
Quite amazing, canned.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
They had us tu down in our twenty two. Nothing
was going on. She's the one who got us out
of there. You know, she's she knew and to you know,
stop the play there, but the momentum stopping. She's just
such a really elligent rugby head and honestly, I remember
the game exact moment when she got into it. Anyone's going, oh,
she might be out, and everyone I talked to I said,
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what just mate, She'll be in the Olympics and she'll
be captain. And she's just one of those special humans
that you know you can put your money on, you know,
you can bank on, and when the moments come, you
can rely on her. And it just showed. So what
an epic way for Sarah to bloody show the world
you know, yeah, it's tough out there, but you can
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actually roll your sleeves up and do something pretty epic.
So for her to not just make it both, not
just return, but to perform under the pressure the way
she did. Just a spectacular human and she deserves all.
But there's not many more left awards for her to
get by all the ones she's about to get, she
deserves them all.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And what a way to retire from sevens for Porsche
Woodman Witcliffe. There's a strong argument to suggesce across both
men and women that athlete is the goat when it
comes to Seven's wonderful way to say goodbye to a
sport that she's been so incredibly instrumental in.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Yeah, look I don't think there's many rugby players quite
like her. She is the only rugby player that I
know who's won World Rugby Player of the Year and
World Sevens Player the Year. Due Pot looks pretty close.
It's getting close to her with his forma at the moment.
But she is out and out one of, you know,
the most game changing players of this generation that we've had.
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It surpasses gender. It's the passes code. To me, Bro,
she could do anything she wanted to. I take her.
As soon as she said you to re tie, I
was like, oh you brave. Look, because you know we
go back and forth visiting. You got to you got
to tighten age, just put a bender and she actually
put the message out. So I'm so proud of that woman.
And the cool thing about Pusha Woodman Wickliffe, She's not
just one of the greatest rugby players to ever grace
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to Black Jersey, she's one of the kindest human beings
you'll ever meet. So it's just it's just absolutely fantas
I think that we were on it enough to call
it one of our own. Just an absolutely prime human being.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So many players Roby Twoey out in the middle of
the instrumental in that victory, not only of course in
the semi finals, but in the final as well. You'd
probably name check the entire team with Stacy Wacker and
michaelab Blyde quite extraordinary. That step in acceleration at the
start of the second half. Wow, what a way to
get things underway for the next seven Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
I think you know a lot of people out there like,
oh you know, I can see it or I can
do this. But at halftime the girls were down. You know,
bit of a bogy team this season, they had their
first one a case will see it's never happened before.
If you watch how Stacy Waker attacked that first kickoff
and how MICHAELA. Blythe finished off that first retainer position
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in that first try up half time. That's what makes
them spectacular. It's not that they've got some of the
best feet in the world. It's because they could do
it when everybody else shies away. Stacey Wiker did the
same thing in the semi final in the Tokyo but
she said give me the ball. Ruby show the called
to kickoff, she said, kick it to me. I'm going
to get this ball back. Shit. Did bloody same thing
in this final, mate, consistent amazing ability under pressure. It's
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a beautiful, beautiful thing. It's very rare, and I hope
the girls continue their run in that black jersey. So
Mcallib writes Stacey waka Supreme seven players. But I'm not
really surprised, to be honest, mate, So they could definitely
both still work on their jokes, just keep them humble
here for a second. Humor could get a bit better
in their dance moves out on TikTok. But I want
to make a shout out to Georgia Miller, Young j
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Plus and Racy poy Lane. They in the future of
that team, and look at what they were doing. Recy
was starting at start a hooker, then she moved to
start a half back, and then she finished in the
second half of that tournament starting at first five. She's
not played first five this whole season. She played every
minute there. That is spectacular stuff that people don't see, mate,
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And look, I think that's how five minutes to be done.
Because my niece is calling me, sheans the ex samwich
from the bakery. I'm over the moon, mate. EPP's got
no sleep last night running off nothing. But I'm so
happy for the woman's Sievens, Black friend Sivans. They're amazing,
this is the moment, this is the day, and oh
I'm just so here to celebrate their men.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Hey, thanks so much, Ruby too. And I can't think
of a better excuse to get off the phone to
the bloody media than Farno. May enjoy it, enjoy today
and enjoy the next couple of weeks celebrating get another
gold for the black fer and sevens.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yes, sweet, does you mate appreciate all you do? You
following us women's every past for years, We see you.
Appreciate you and up first this close, thanks us have
a great day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Was it the right call? Call and tell Darsie it's
Sports Talk with Dancie Waldegrave on news Talks.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It be extraordinary stuff from the women's sevens team this morning,
overcoming the States and whack in Canada. It was not easy.
They had to work particularly hard and I think a
lot of us thought with Australia out this was going
to be a waltz. That was not the case. And
when Porsha woman Wickcliffe got sent for two minutes after
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a head clash, I was thinking back to the World
Cup final A couple of years ago, same thing happened
off the park for the rest of the game. But
she came back and she said actually a postmatch interview
that she played poorly and she gave away a penalty
and she got zened office. She wasn't entirely happy with
what she provided. But it is about the team, it's
not about the individual. That was an amazing effort. How
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does it sit? Where does it sit for you? As
far as the Olympics go? I know it's a pressure veil.
It's been released because finally this medal has turned up.
So now New Zealand is on the medal table and
we start indulging in that ridiculous perhead of Cabita argument
that we always seem to fall into until it tiny
country like Bermuda, for example, wins and that just destroys everything.
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But this is great relief. But it's also well deserved.
And I think that when you look back at this team,
they've got to be right up there, don't they In
the highest band of Olympic representatives, this black sevens team.
There are a couple of teams that have done very
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well on the water, granted, but this team here, that's
a legacy right, that's gold, gold, well, silver, gold and gold.
Where do they set for you? As far as the
Olympic Games and Portia Woodman Wickcliffe, Let's not drop her
wife's name out. That'll be penal sorts of trouble. Can
you argue that she is in New Zealand the greatest
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sevens player we've had, the greatest sevens player we've seen.
You look at a results, you look at a record,
you look at what she's achieved, and then you go
across to her fifteen A side. This woman has had
a significant career. How good you tell me?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open, Try
and keep you up. Today's going on in the triathon.
The New Zealand competitors unfortunately falling off the back. I'm
just watching the names flip through now to see if
we can't find they were They are in the thirties
last time I saw, but that scoreboards not moving, surprise, surprise.
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I'll try. When I can't, I will catch up. Also
with our Olympic broadcast guys at some stage too, maybe
they can shed more light upon that. There's this news.
Talk to d B. You're on sports still go eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two. That's the text.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Let's get a mugs, don't argue with the rev argue
with Darcy instead of Sports Talk with Darcy Walter Gray
cool Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on News
Talks V.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll bring you updated shortly comes to the Olympic Games
crew covering the Olympic Games. It'll check in and give
us the skinny and what's going on with the women's triathon.
He just joined the program. They're up and racing an
hour and a half and so far the river scene
has been adjudged not business, been a judged healthy ish,
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it's been a judged safe anyway. They've been in that
one's dropped dead, so that's a positive. But the men
are going to be climbing in that drink later on
on the piece, and we'll keep you up to date
with that as well. Plenty of other Olympic sports happening
over night. And he's have done pretty well in a
couple of disciplines and I look specifically at Molly Menchi
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and Joela that had a wonderful evening. They start again
in the forty nine erFX at quarter past ten and
they were almost stone cold motherless last nineteen out of
twenty four a while, but they've come back in the
last round of the managed cloning way back to seventh position.
So the way the FX works or the forty nine
ers work, there's still very much a chance they could
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get into middle contention ladder on the piece. That is
great news too for those two. Unfortunately McCarty and McKenzie
have dropped back a couple of places, but still definitely
not out of the picture. Just run to the text
line in nineteen ninet two that is z B z B.
I'm too busy to call darth, but this Black Fern's
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sevens team of twenty twenty to twenty twenty four has
to be mentioned in the same realms and the steam
of dynasties and greatness, such as the All Blacks team
of twenty eleven to twenty fifteen start of End of
Up the Wahne the true face of New Zealand rugby.
I couldn't have said that any better myself. I think
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that's a great text and you look at the pressure
that's been put on the shoulders of these players and
the way they've responded to that. The fact you've got
some veterans playing still to their absolute peak. And then
as Ruby said before, name checking some of the younger
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athletes coming through that heady max of experience and youth
and exeberance and the ability to hank tough and when
when it really counts, that's amazing. I like that the
true face of New Zealand rugby. Look, women's rugby is
growth area in the sport. And that gold medal, as
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is said to Ruby Tioey, what a beacon for young
women coming through to play the game. You can represent
your nation, you get a gold medal. It's not just
a pie in the sky. Maybe you want to run
off to the NRL, you know, get paid for what
you do. But like that's up there as well. MICHAELA.
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Blyde one hundred percent the best writes another thanks very
much for that. And with that rock and roll going
in the background, all that country and Western go, we've
really hit country and Western heart out in the station.
Evan Wes, what's going on? How is you going to
start playing Garth Brooks from me as well?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
No, no, fair enough whatever chart, So people have got
they're all gotten down, hold down. That's fantastic, right, let's
say we're across and get one of our Olympic broadcasters
to give us the latest and greatest from the thirty
third Olympic Games in Paris. Take it away, whoever you are,
and that cross deserves a vortex. Adam Cooper, thank you
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very much. It is seven to thirty two. This is
a news talk to z B on Sports Talk. My
name STARTSI Wadgap lines are open on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. We're celebrating the black Ferns in mont they've achieved,
not just overnight, but what they've achieved over the last
few Olympic Games, what they've achieved in the World of
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sevens and how they left this sport here the growth
area in New Zealand, and I think that's true when
it comes to rugby. The growth theory is the numbers,
say it. The growth theory is the women in sport
and this can only but encourage young women to play
the game. I would expect. Is this aspirational for young
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rugby players out there? And is it enough to keep
them playing? Because we have a text point out that
Stacey Waka is a bit of a concern. You're going
to play league next year. This character Tim is not
overly enamored with the code hopping about players going back
and forth. But I suppose where there's money to be made,
you've got to go. The money in rugby and union
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and sevens for the Wahina is nowhere near as generous
as it is for the bloke. So you get why
you've got to drop or sorry, bounce back and forth.
Now the text says from Jack, you need to employ Ruby.
She's so knowledgeable and genuine what she is, and she
was genuinely pleased for what happened. Did you see the game? Now?
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I'm not going to lie to you, And so I
stayed up all night to watch it. I tried to.
I got to about quarter to one and I thought, no,
I can't do this anymore. I'm dribbling on myself. So
I jumped in the scratcher, set the video recorder, got
my Beta max out and watched it this morning. Both
of them quite overwhelmed with the passion and the precision
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and the sheer, bloody mindedness of these players not to
actually get beaten. There was something about the grind in
the way they played that said to me they wanted
to win more than the other team. I think it's
an off used phrase, but I think it's accurate in
this when you look at the body language and the
players and the faces of the players, what that actually
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meant to them? Had any what an outstanding journey from
a reconstructed knee to coming back into this side and
being instrumental in the victory with the way she played.
And when you got a sevens team down to six,
albeit only for a couple of minutes, that is a
berg hurdle to get over. It really is. In this
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Canadian team they looked lightly, but a couple of brutal stabs,
brutal tries for the Black Ferns, it was too much Canada.
And I've got one thing I enjoyed very much is
right at the very end of it, when they got
the ball and George Miller, she kicked the ball out
straight away. There was no playing around. There was no oh,
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we might try and score another try get it out,
win the game and celebrate. I would love to hear
your calls on the joy that you got out of this,
the significance of this victory, where this sits, this team
and the likes of Porsche Woodman up there in the
pantheon of New Zealand rugby greats. I think they've got
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to be right up there, especially Porsche Woman. It's a
new push Wooden Wickliffe immensely proud of what they've done.
Are you, Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty lines
are open. I'd love to hear from you. Later on
in the piece, we're going to catch up with Oh mate,
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guy have Velt from TV and Z. He's lurking over
in Paris. They're going to squaws at the action. We'll
ProView what's happening in the triathon for the men. If
we look at what's been going on the Triathan for
the women, it's been going on for just over an
hour and a half now, and also other events that
are coming up overnight. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
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eighty and here's a text for it. I think this
probably encapsulates what I was trying to say, and I'd
really like you to call on this. Does New Zealand
really care about women's rugby? I care your New Zealand?
Do you care news pay it lip services? What does
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it mean to you? I was up on my feet,
I was yelling and screaming. First thing in the morning
means a lot. It's such a growth theory. What does
it mean to you? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
lines are open. You can text nineteen nineteen that z
B is ZB This is news Talk z B nineteen
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nine minutes to eight sports Talk car News TALKSZB lines roping.
I wait at eight ten at pree phone Nation. Why
do you can in flip me your text? That text
charge will be applied to your bill. Nineteen nine two
is where you can flip that into z B z B.
It's run through a couple of the texts. Now, I agree, Darcy.
The girls are where it's at with Rugby. For me,
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the abs come second. Now that is from John. I
mean that in itself is astonishing, isn't it. The AB's
come second? Now? Why is that? John? Why the buying?
What particularly does that for you? I can't tell you
what it is. You need to tell me. Don't give
us a ring. Andy writes, Hey, I care more than
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you do. I got up twice. What's wrong with you?
I can still care in delay, can't I my mid fifties.
I just ran out of steam and I couldn't stay
up and I didn't want to fall asleep in a
pile of my own dribble and miss the semi final
and missed the final. I think I timed it beautifully well.
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But that's a good point that you make. Thank you.
You do care Andy. I don't know why I sound
like I'm talking with my nose. I was possibly born
like that, But thanks very much for the text and
Ray and Sparky. Hope that no one at the triathon
swallow an eel out of the scene. It would be yeah,
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they don't, Darcy. I don't care about women's rugby. If
it's so great, why is the men's game paying them?
I'd rather watch schoolboy rugby. I'm interested in that assertion, Steve,
that the men's game is paying them. And this is
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a long standing, an old argument, and I get where
people are coming from from that that the money in
rugby isn't the men, it's for rugby. Because if that
was the case, and it was only the brands within
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rugby they were allowed to spend the money they generated,
nobody would have any money. The NPC wouldn't have any money,
Schoolboy rugby wouldn't have any money, women's rugby wouldn't have
any money. Super rugby might have a wee bit, but
not a great It'll all be for the All Blacks.
(29:36):
Ends are as an entity is charged with looking after rugby,
and as I said, the growth theory in rugby is
with women, and it's very important that NZ are recognized that,
even though we know they're particularly good at this periment,
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it's all about the All Blacks. And though there were
anything to provide the all black, but the money that
they generate there needs to be spread so invariably it
can be lifted when you look at the and it's
been dominant for such a long time, and then the
steps that women's rugby have made in such a short
amount of time after laboring under this concept that women
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can't play rugby for so long, it's astonishing what they've achieved.
So you can't tell me. I mean, obviously you don't
like it, that's fine, and you don't need to agree
with me. But the men's game doesn't pay them. The
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game pays them, and we've got to stop with this.
Just because the All Blacks are successful and they draw
in all the money that no one else deserves any money.
The NJED are are in place to look after the
game of rugby in this country, and that's what they
have to do. And yep, the women are getting a
(31:03):
bit of a leg up and it's been an astonishing
leg up over the last few years, no doubt. But
they need that leg up because they've had no leg
up previously. They've been left alone, they've been left floundering.
Now they follow the same path that men's rugby did.
(31:27):
It'll take them another hundred years to get where men's
rugby got. And why do they have to They don't
because they can use everything that women that men's rugby brings,
and they can develop and their trajectory is going to
be very steep and it's only good for the game.
Sermon over, I actually thinks i'm a PC twat. Thanks. Actually,
that's great because being politically correct is actually positive. It's uplifting,
(31:51):
it's forward thinking, it's woke. It's the right side of
history to die on. And you just stay in your
cave mate. Good luck to you there, Darcy. The women's
game is much more entertaining to watch than the men's game.
It could be the only reason we don't switch the
league full time. Thanks for that, Rachel. It's far more
(32:16):
enjoyable they play with a smile on their faces. John,
although Paul, I'm not interested to watch female rugby. More
likely to see that and many other sports on live
TV than free to air live AB matches Darcy Raud
than when New zealn't want a gold medal in the
swimming or the cycling or athletics any day of the
week over second at rate seven's rugby golds in the
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sports where Olympics as the pinnacle, has so much more value.
Fair enough, the well, I get that because it's not
a traditional Olympic sport. So you want to succeed in
Greco Roman wrestling, okay, and I know that in skateboarding
another under disciplined. I think, what's that doing at the sport?
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And I think you're right around pinnacles And I'm not
going to disagree with you, but by saying second rate
seven's rugby, I think you've just displayed yourself for the
public to see. It's not second rate seven's rugby, it's
fantastic seven's rugby. This Newstalk's eb you're on sports Talk.
(33:27):
I love you calls one hundred and eighty ten eighty,
but you can pare me to text if you want
because my mouth something to do. This is Newstalk's e
B Guy I have Eld joins Aus says, surely we'll
look at the the vibe, the atmosphere in and around Paris,
look forward to what's happening, and all you reflecting on
(33:47):
what happened this morning with the black ferns. This is
news Talk's Abbitch TNA Sports Talk gladyst in News Sport
(34:12):
and we're the lurks at the top of the hour
with intent. After that, market Slash takes control of the program.
Let's go now to my former colleague, mister Guy have Velt.
He's over in Paris, along with pretty much everyone in
media in the whole country. Everyone's found themselves over there.
You like being an auckland Wood and a guy? How
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are you?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Former colleague but still a friend? See great to chat
to you. Yeah, very good, but warm. If I feel
like or sound like rather I'm out of a little
bit of breath, it's because I'm rushing to get to
the start of the men's triathlon after our television bulletin,
So just be with me. But yeah, beautiful day. It
has dawned now at rain this morning, and I've got
to be honest, I was well, I was going to
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say I was surprised at the swimming whin a hit.
I'm surprised in terms of them saying that apparently the
readings were okay for them to swimming after the rain
that we had, But I'm not so surprised that they
just pushed go anyway. But we are about what an
hour or so away from the men's triathlon, the women's triathlon,
if not has already finished, it would be very close
to old the thought.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, our fifty one and I'm actually watching it on
the TV now. So the French ones leading this, followed
by the Swiss, but that's another story for another day.
You said, surprise, what's the general chat around the state
of the scene. But as they spend two point four
billion New Zealand dollars trying to clean it up because
it's been a filth pit for one hundred years.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah, well, it has been illegal to swim in the
Seine for so long, and as you say, they's spend
billions of dollars to clean it up, they say so.
Yesterday when we had a press conference with Olympic Committee
bosses and also World Triathlon bosses, they said that they
did numerous tests throughout the triathlon course. Three of them
were above the threshold in terms of safety and one
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was considerably so. So you fast forward twenty four hours
and as I say, there's been rain this morning. So
I would have wondered, how on earth the quality of
the water gets better when there has been rain falling
from the sky. I don't think that's the case. I
think they just really wanted to get this done with
a swim. In saying all of that, I think the
athletes are very happy that this is going ahead as
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a triathlon for a couple of reasons. No one wants
to win a joathlon at the Olympics when it's meant
to be a triathlon and have that asterisk next to
the name for the rest of their days. And kind
of following on from that, you know, there are athletes
in this race who are very good swimmers who would
have had that element of the race taken away from them.
(36:41):
So I think the right thing has happened. Whether it's
the best thing in terms of health, I'm not so sure,
but I am personally glad we're having a triathlon race.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We we'll find out later in the piece. I don't mean,
it depends if anyone comes down terribly sick, but we'll know.
We don't know that immediately not I know, guy, an
asterisk next to your name, you've still got a medaline.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
I mean, yeah, I know, I know what you mean.
But the athletes are and rightfully so they'll always have
questions for the rest of their careers saying, oh, yeah, great,
you want a gold medal, but you did it without
the swim leags, so was it really a triathlon? Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And they don't want that, so they're all I know that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well maybe not all of them have spoken to all.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Of them have really only got a gauge from Hayden,
but he said that most of the field is happy
that it is going ahead as a triathlon.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
What's been like after the outrageous success of the women's
sevens silver, gold, gold, This is quite the legacy, this
is quite the error.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
There are a lot of athletes who deserve gold medals
in this New Zealand team, or medals at all, but
few more so, if any more so, than that team.
The way they play, how good they are, the players
that they've got, the way they conduct themselves, the ease
with which they allow media access, which is sometimes a
bit of an anomaly. I should say in New Zealand
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rugby circles they are outstanding and I was just so
delighted for them to win. There was a bit of
pressure on them because everyone expected them to them and
in that final they hadn't really been tested all tournament,
but in that final by Canada, I thought they were.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Pushed quite far.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Canada played very very well tested the Black Fern sevens,
but I think that resolved players like I know, Sarah
hit and he gave away some penalties, but man, when
it matted, she just stepped up massively.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
What a phenomenal player she is.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Blied.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
They couldn't seem to find a way to stop her
Portchal Wooden Wincliffe was outstanding, Stacy Waker, Georgia Miller, recy
Pody Lane and even the rest of the women who
came on as well. It was just a full team
performance and I've been lucky enough to spend well a
full day with them in recent times and as I say,
they're just a delightful bunch of people that deserve a
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gold medal so much so.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, really happy with that.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Let's hope that it opens the floodgates for a few
more in the next next few days and maybe even
the next hour or two.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well we'll see, Andy. Let you go, and thanks very
much for joining us. Guy have elt out of Paris
courtesy of TV in Z. The sailors are turned things
around a wee bit, and the rollers have qualified for
a number of semis and finals too, so it's starting
to turn. The water born sports are doing the best.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
We don't have a lot of patience sometimes as a
country Garcia, so many time things that happen straight away. Look,
I think probably missed a couple of medals early on,
but were they genuine meddle.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
We I think, guy, you keep cutting outside. I think guy,
have helped my fallen into the scene they're about So
we're going to have to stop that dead now because
here pouor Havevelt's phone's gone pair shape at lest it
chose the right time to do it. Hey, The French
woman beau Grant has won the woman's triathlon shade under
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two hours one fifty four fifty Dron the Swiss Potter,
the Great British Entry and another French woman that Lombardy
make up your top four, so a huge success. For
the locals. They're absolutely loving that. So the men what
forty five minutes or so before they get to underway.
(40:24):
And if you want to listen to that, the highlights
and all the other stuff that's coming up in the
form of rowing and sailing and so on and so forth,
gold Sport as where you can find that that action
on iHeart or just dieal it up on your radio.
He'll be sweet. We've got a phalanx of men providing
a commentary right the way through the night and it's milicage.
Thanks very much for warming the seat of producer Duff.
(40:48):
I think you might be stuck with me all week.
You're lucky, lucky man. I'll be back again tomorrow from
at seven. So proud of the Black seven, So proud
of the Black Fern Seven's absolutely stoked. Stop bro
Speaker 1 (41:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, how are you welcome into sports still names Darcy Watergrave.
It is seven minutes after seven o'clock. Coming up on
this evening's program, We're gonna wallow in the glory of
the women, the Black Ferns, who picked up their third
consecutive Olympic medal, their second goal medal on the bounce.
This is an all time great team that provided what
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we're all after as far as the medal count was concerned.
It's finally started and they did it. I won't say
the easy way either. They were well pushed. They were
well pushed in the two games that led up well
the final of course in the semi final as well. Eventually,
even with a yellow card or a two minutes out
of the out of the games to Porsche Wooman Wickcliffe
(01:32):
had still managed to get the job that it was
an extraordinary result, something that we can all be rightly
proud of, and their side, this team could almost argue
that they are the best team to represent. You said
at the Olympics that you might argue that it might
be a stretch. I know there are other teams who
have done particularly well, but what these women have done
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over the last three Olympic Games has really been nothing
short of astonished. And we'll take your thought cause and
thoughts on that and the look as well at Porsche Woodman.
She leaves this game as arguably the goat. Now I've
been reading and hearing arguments that's saying that when it
comes to sevens, she is the best of the best
and better than any of the men that we've had
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playing as a player. Flat out, she should really retire
right at the top of the mound. Do you believe that?
Is that good for you? Is that right for you?
Does she really have that much money within rugby and
sporting circles in New Zealand. Anyway, we'll talk about that
later on on the Beasts. We hope to get to
Paris at some stage for the end of the program
(02:37):
as well, we're going to catch up with one of
our correspondents. There's plenty of them lurking around on the queues.
And also keep you up today what's going on in
the triathlon, because the women are currently competing all the
two New Zealand entries, though unfortunately aren't really within Kewy
of the lead. I suppose the one we're really looking
forward to is the men's event when that gets underwagh,
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what an hour and a half's time? All right, enough
of all of that. Ruby Twoey is going to join
us next to talk about her teammate, to talk about
the victory, which was fantastic. Ruby is up next. But
before we do that, let's do this today. Dadden's for
today a black Fern and seven's made more history backing
(03:18):
up there. Took your goal with another one, Okay, Bla
gave the Aussies an assist after seeing them when the
seven series a couple of months ago. That gave them
enough to pile on and to.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Come up against a Black Friends sevens team after a
loss really sucks because we are very angry and we
have high standards in our environment. So we went into
the Olympic Games with the emotion of redemption but also
the emotion of stamping our mark in this game.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
And she was outstanding. That score at the start of
a second half that really triggered it for the rest
of the game. Kemmi Trothy, Hayden Wild He's not messing around.
He's armed himself to the teeth, not with weapons, but
with support ahead of tonight's Olympic Men's event through the
open sewer.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I've invested a ton into this, you know. I bought
my own chef, bought my own physio training partners, so
I've put a lot of work into it. As my
manager said, you'll kick yourself if you don't invest everything
you possibly can.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Down away from the games, because yes there is other
sport a though most of us have just ignored it.
Mystics coach Artier Care has reflected on the positives of
a very tough, injury affected season the head of this
weekend's final of the am Z Premiership against the Pulse.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
We did go through a pitch that was really rough
when you're doing it a bit tough. That teaches the
team a lot and the real gold out of that
is that all our players had significant playing time. So
now I've got a full team that can take the
court and I'm confident in their abilities.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And Blues and Auckland and all Blacks winger has signed
on the dotted line to stay with the in z
ah CADL Clark has committed only to the end of
next year. Nothing strange in that that he claims.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I'm just the one step at a time kind of
perth and then just sort of that one years what
allowed me to really focus on the now and just
allows me to kind of put my best foot forward
in terms of playing these as many games as I
can this year.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
And what.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Join now in sports talk about Ruby Tilley, of course,
gold medal winner, silver medal winner with the New Zealand
at women's at seven side the Black Ferns at seven's.
She of course is no longer there, but keenly watching
all of the action. She joins us, Now, what an
amazing result, Ruby Tiwey, how good?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Well, so good, mate, It's so good. And you know
it's just been such a long time coming for the girls.
They've been through so much adversity. They really just had
to come together in this final moment, you know, biggest
crowd ever for women rugby event. It's just it was
so beautiful to watch, man, It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Did it feel a bit stink that you weren't actually
there competing with your old teammates in that huge stadium,
that massive crowd.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
It's funny because we've all been setting like all the
girls who run Gold Life Time, who aren't there this time,
and we're like a couple of them. We've got a
phonebo I don't know. I have a feeling of like,
you know, everything happens for a reason. Everyone who's there's
really meant to be there, and Jesus made us been
bloody over a decade running around on it a seven fields.
(06:23):
It's pretty for anyone. So I'm happy I am in
the fifteenth now, and I'll tell you that ADMIN and
the Olympic Games, it's like no other so other girls
have been through so much to that point, so prusonally,
I'm just happy how it is. I think it happened
how it's supposed to be. But that's not not a
couple of answers I got at six am this morning.
I tell you that we.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Know Ruby that women's rugby and sevens has gone from
strength to strength of recent times. But there's an argument
now that sees with silver gold now black to black
and other gold medal, they really have reached the high
point of women's sevens.
Speaker 7 (06:58):
I think it's huge, mate, It's such a significant moment
and how much we have grown our women's rugby and
our women's program and just having it in front of
people's eyes, you know, in front of all these young
girls eyes, and we see so much talent at a
grassroots level, at a rep level, and we want them
all to stick into the sport. And you know what
the girls have gone out there and done is just
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showed that there is a system there that works, and
there is something there that's worth protecting, that's worth investing in,
and it's worth just carrying on forward. That like when
we won gold last time, or even the silver before
that in Rio, it wasn't the first ever medal, Like
I remember being in the village both times when the
first medal was won, and it's such a huge event,
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you know, for the athletes as a team, for all
the liaison offices, which are often ex athletes that are
in the village running things. It's a huge moment for
that New Zealand team. And so you know, to walk
out with gold, with the girls heads high, with you know,
all the stuff they've been going through. Man, they've gone
through so much and to do that to a New
Zealand team for the country, it's a huge moment bow
(08:02):
and it just shows we got some real good going
on here and this woman rugby in this country man,
it's Epics.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Must be great for the sport ruby when you consider
the athletes that are moving off to the n r L.
Now there's this route again, this route that's been rubbish
stamped to say, hey, you stick with us, you could
get an Olympic medal. But I suppose on the other side,
it's all about getting paid, right, It's all about the benjamins. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:27):
Look, I think this gold is extremely important because no
matter what you say, I know all the great rugby
players and rugby at the moment, and no matter what
you say, money, contracts, anything is nothing like an Olympic medal.
I can tell your first hand. It's always always got
to be tempting for the most talented, most paid out there.
And so for the girls to go out and win gold,
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that's going to sit in their heads. You know, all
the girls in W and L, there's some of them
that could be Olympic championship if they wanted to. And
this moment is going to sit heavy in their books,
you know. So it's not just important to show women's growth,
it's important to be remembered by all the women who
are signing really big contracts. Now, you know, like oh, jeez,
maybe I could you know, Jeff sevens for wood and
(09:11):
come back to rugby. So it's a pretty big moment
in that context too. But as I say, fifteen is
you know we're thriving over here too. You know, our
w's driving. Everything's gone really good. So it's just healthy
for all the talent that's out there because there's so
much there's if a boy out there, do I go
down the fields, we haven't even there's so much untapped
talent out here that haven't even chosen what they're going
(09:33):
to play yet that we need to grab. So this
is justus we're going man.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think epic is probably the right word to describe
the contribution of Sarah Henny over the time she's been
involved with the Sevens and again coming back from a
massive surgery to be instrumental in that victory today over Canada.
Quite amazing, canned.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
They had us tu down in our twenty two. Nothing
was going on. She's the one who got us out
of there. You know, she's she knew and to you know,
stop the play there, but the momentum stopping. She's just
such a really elligent rugby head and honestly, I remember
the game exact moment when she got into it. Anyone's going, oh,
she might be out, and everyone I talked to I said,
(10:15):
what just mate, She'll be in the Olympics and she'll
be captain. And she's just one of those special humans
that you know you can put your money on, you know,
you can bank on, and when the moments come, you
can rely on her. And it just showed. So what
an epic way for Sarah to bloody show the world
you know, yeah, it's tough out there, but you can
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actually roll your sleeves up and do something pretty epic.
So for her to not just make it both, not
just return, but to perform under the pressure the way
she did. Just a spectacular human and she deserves all.
But there's not many more left awards for her to
get by all the ones she's about to get, she
deserves them all.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And what a way to retire from sevens for Porsche
Woodman Witcliffe. There's a strong argument to suggesce across both
men and women that athlete is the goat when it
comes to Seven's wonderful way to say goodbye to a
sport that she's been so incredibly instrumental in.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
Yeah, look I don't think there's many rugby players quite
like her. She is the only rugby player that I
know who's won World Rugby Player of the Year and
World Sevens Player the Year. Due Pot looks pretty close.
It's getting close to her with his forma at the moment.
But she is out and out one of, you know,
the most game changing players of this generation that we've had.
(11:37):
It surpasses gender. It's the passes code. To me, Bro,
she could do anything she wanted to. I take her.
As soon as she said you to re tie, I
was like, oh you brave. Look, because you know we
go back and forth visiting. You got to you got
to tighten age, just put a bender and she actually
put the message out. So I'm so proud of that woman.
And the cool thing about Pusha Woodman Wickliffe, She's not
just one of the greatest rugby players to ever grace
(11:59):
to Black Jersey, she's one of the kindest human beings
you'll ever meet. So it's just it's just absolutely fantas
I think that we were on it enough to call
it one of our own. Just an absolutely prime human being.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So many players Roby Twoey out in the middle of
the instrumental in that victory, not only of course in
the semi finals, but in the final as well. You'd
probably name check the entire team with Stacy Wacker and
michaelab Blyde quite extraordinary. That step in acceleration at the
start of the second half. Wow, what a way to
get things underway for the next seven Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
I think you know a lot of people out there like,
oh you know, I can see it or I can
do this. But at halftime the girls were down. You know,
bit of a bogy team this season, they had their
first one a case will see it's never happened before.
If you watch how Stacy Waker attacked that first kickoff
and how MICHAELA. Blythe finished off that first retainer position
(12:55):
in that first try up half time. That's what makes
them spectacular. It's not that they've got some of the
best feet in the world. It's because they could do
it when everybody else shies away. Stacey Wiker did the
same thing in the semi final in the Tokyo but
she said give me the ball. Ruby show the called
to kickoff, she said, kick it to me. I'm going
to get this ball back. Shit. Did bloody same thing
in this final, mate, consistent amazing ability under pressure. It's
(13:20):
a beautiful, beautiful thing. It's very rare, and I hope
the girls continue their run in that black jersey. So
Mcallib writes Stacey waka Supreme seven players. But I'm not
really surprised, to be honest, mate, So they could definitely
both still work on their jokes, just keep them humble
here for a second. Humor could get a bit better
in their dance moves out on TikTok. But I want
to make a shout out to Georgia Miller, Young j
(13:41):
Plus and Racy poy Lane. They in the future of
that team, and look at what they were doing. Recy
was starting at start a hooker, then she moved to
start a half back, and then she finished in the
second half of that tournament starting at first five. She's
not played first five this whole season. She played every
minute there. That is spectacular stuff that people don't see, mate,
(14:01):
And look, I think that's how five minutes to be done.
Because my niece is calling me, sheans the ex samwich
from the bakery. I'm over the moon, mate. EPP's got
no sleep last night running off nothing. But I'm so
happy for the woman's Sievens, Black friend Sivans. They're amazing,
this is the moment, this is the day, and oh
I'm just so here to celebrate their men.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Hey, thanks so much, Ruby too. And I can't think
of a better excuse to get off the phone to
the bloody media than Farno. May enjoy it, enjoy today
and enjoy the next couple of weeks celebrating get another
gold for the black fer and sevens.
Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yes, sweet, does you mate appreciate all you do? You
following us women's every past for years, We see you.
Appreciate you and up first this close, thanks us have
a great day.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Was it the right call? Call and tell Darsie it's
Sports Talk with Dancie Waldegrave on news Talks.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
It be extraordinary stuff from the women's sevens team this morning,
overcoming the States and whack in Canada. It was not easy.
They had to work particularly hard and I think a
lot of us thought with Australia out this was going
to be a waltz. That was not the case. And
when Porsha woman Wickcliffe got sent for two minutes after
(15:17):
a head clash, I was thinking back to the World
Cup final A couple of years ago, same thing happened
off the park for the rest of the game. But
she came back and she said actually a postmatch interview
that she played poorly and she gave away a penalty
and she got zened office. She wasn't entirely happy with
what she provided. But it is about the team, it's
not about the individual. That was an amazing effort. How
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does it sit? Where does it sit for you? As
far as the Olympics go? I know it's a pressure veil.
It's been released because finally this medal has turned up.
So now New Zealand is on the medal table and
we start indulging in that ridiculous perhead of Cabita argument
that we always seem to fall into until it tiny
country like Bermuda, for example, wins and that just destroys everything.
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But this is great relief. But it's also well deserved.
And I think that when you look back at this team,
they've got to be right up there, don't they In
the highest band of Olympic representatives, this black sevens team.
There are a couple of teams that have done very
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well on the water, granted, but this team here, that's
a legacy right, that's gold, gold, well, silver, gold and gold.
Where do they set for you? As far as the
Olympic Games and Portia Woodman Wickcliffe, Let's not drop her
wife's name out. That'll be penal sorts of trouble. Can
you argue that she is in New Zealand the greatest
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sevens player we've had, the greatest sevens player we've seen.
You look at a results, you look at a record,
you look at what she's achieved, and then you go
across to her fifteen A side. This woman has had
a significant career. How good you tell me?
Speaker 5 (17:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open, Try
and keep you up. Today's going on in the triathon.
The New Zealand competitors unfortunately falling off the back. I'm
just watching the names flip through now to see if
we can't find they were They are in the thirties
last time I saw, but that scoreboards not moving, surprise, surprise.
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I'll try. When I can't, I will catch up. Also
with our Olympic broadcast guys at some stage too, maybe
they can shed more light upon that. There's this news.
Talk to d B. You're on sports still go eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine two. That's the text.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Let's get a mugs, don't argue with the rev argue
with Darcy instead of Sports Talk with Darcy Walter Gray
cool Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on News
Talks V.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I'll bring you updated shortly comes to the Olympic Games
crew covering the Olympic Games. It'll check in and give
us the skinny and what's going on with the women's triathon.
He just joined the program. They're up and racing an
hour and a half and so far the river scene
has been adjudged not business, been a judged healthy ish,
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it's been a judged safe anyway. They've been in that
one's dropped dead, so that's a positive. But the men
are going to be climbing in that drink later on
on the piece, and we'll keep you up to date
with that as well. Plenty of other Olympic sports happening
over night. And he's have done pretty well in a
couple of disciplines and I look specifically at Molly Menchi
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and Joela that had a wonderful evening. They start again
in the forty nine erFX at quarter past ten and
they were almost stone cold motherless last nineteen out of
twenty four a while, but they've come back in the
last round of the managed cloning way back to seventh position.
So the way the FX works or the forty nine
ers work, there's still very much a chance they could
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get into middle contention ladder on the piece. That is
great news too for those two. Unfortunately McCarty and McKenzie
have dropped back a couple of places, but still definitely
not out of the picture. Just run to the text
line in nineteen ninet two that is z B z B.
I'm too busy to call darth, but this Black Fern's
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sevens team of twenty twenty to twenty twenty four has
to be mentioned in the same realms and the steam
of dynasties and greatness, such as the All Blacks team
of twenty eleven to twenty fifteen start of End of
Up the Wahne the true face of New Zealand rugby.
I couldn't have said that any better myself. I think
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that's a great text and you look at the pressure
that's been put on the shoulders of these players and
the way they've responded to that. The fact you've got
some veterans playing still to their absolute peak. And then
as Ruby said before, name checking some of the younger
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athletes coming through that heady max of experience and youth
and exeberance and the ability to hank tough and when
when it really counts, that's amazing. I like that the
true face of New Zealand rugby. Look, women's rugby is
growth area in the sport. And that gold medal, as
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is said to Ruby Tioey, what a beacon for young
women coming through to play the game. You can represent
your nation, you get a gold medal. It's not just
a pie in the sky. Maybe you want to run
off to the NRL, you know, get paid for what
you do. But like that's up there as well. MICHAELA.
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Blyde one hundred percent the best writes another thanks very
much for that. And with that rock and roll going
in the background, all that country and Western go, we've
really hit country and Western heart out in the station.
Evan Wes, what's going on? How is you going to
start playing Garth Brooks from me as well?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
No, no, fair enough whatever chart, So people have got
they're all gotten down, hold down. That's fantastic, right, let's
say we're across and get one of our Olympic broadcasters
to give us the latest and greatest from the thirty
third Olympic Games in Paris. Take it away, whoever you are,
and that cross deserves a vortex. Adam Cooper, thank you
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very much. It is seven to thirty two. This is
a news talk to z B on Sports Talk. My
name STARTSI Wadgap lines are open on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. We're celebrating the black Ferns in mont they've achieved,
not just overnight, but what they've achieved over the last
few Olympic Games, what they've achieved in the World of
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sevens and how they left this sport here the growth
area in New Zealand, and I think that's true when
it comes to rugby. The growth theory is the numbers,
say it. The growth theory is the women in sport
and this can only but encourage young women to play
the game. I would expect. Is this aspirational for young
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rugby players out there? And is it enough to keep
them playing? Because we have a text point out that
Stacey Waka is a bit of a concern. You're going
to play league next year. This character Tim is not
overly enamored with the code hopping about players going back
and forth. But I suppose where there's money to be made,
you've got to go. The money in rugby and union
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and sevens for the Wahina is nowhere near as generous
as it is for the bloke. So you get why
you've got to drop or sorry, bounce back and forth.
Now the text says from Jack, you need to employ Ruby.
She's so knowledgeable and genuine what she is, and she
was genuinely pleased for what happened. Did you see the game? Now?
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I'm not going to lie to you, And so I
stayed up all night to watch it. I tried to.
I got to about quarter to one and I thought, no,
I can't do this anymore. I'm dribbling on myself. So
I jumped in the scratcher, set the video recorder, got
my Beta max out and watched it this morning. Both
of them quite overwhelmed with the passion and the precision
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and the sheer, bloody mindedness of these players not to
actually get beaten. There was something about the grind in
the way they played that said to me they wanted
to win more than the other team. I think it's
an off used phrase, but I think it's accurate in
this when you look at the body language and the
players and the faces of the players, what that actually
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meant to them? Had any what an outstanding journey from
a reconstructed knee to coming back into this side and
being instrumental in the victory with the way she played.
And when you got a sevens team down to six,
albeit only for a couple of minutes, that is a
berg hurdle to get over. It really is. In this
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Canadian team they looked lightly, but a couple of brutal stabs,
brutal tries for the Black Ferns, it was too much Canada.
And I've got one thing I enjoyed very much is
right at the very end of it, when they got
the ball and George Miller, she kicked the ball out
straight away. There was no playing around. There was no oh,
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we might try and score another try get it out,
win the game and celebrate. I would love to hear
your calls on the joy that you got out of this,
the significance of this victory, where this sits, this team
and the likes of Porsche Woodman up there in the
pantheon of New Zealand rugby greats. I think they've got
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to be right up there, especially Porsche Woman. It's a
new push Wooden Wickliffe immensely proud of what they've done.
Are you, Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty lines
are open. I'd love to hear from you. Later on
in the piece, we're going to catch up with Oh mate,
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guy have Velt from TV and Z. He's lurking over
in Paris. They're going to squaws at the action. We'll
ProView what's happening in the triathon for the men. If
we look at what's been going on the Triathan for
the women, it's been going on for just over an
hour and a half now, and also other events that
are coming up overnight. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
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eighty and here's a text for it. I think this
probably encapsulates what I was trying to say, and I'd
really like you to call on this. Does New Zealand
really care about women's rugby? I care your New Zealand?
Do you care news pay it lip services? What does
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it mean to you? I was up on my feet,
I was yelling and screaming. First thing in the morning
means a lot. It's such a growth theory. What does
it mean to you? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
lines are open. You can text nineteen nineteen that z
B is ZB This is news Talk z B nineteen
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nine minutes to eight sports Talk car News TALKSZB lines roping.
I wait at eight ten at pree phone Nation. Why
do you can in flip me your text? That text
charge will be applied to your bill. Nineteen nine two
is where you can flip that into z B z B.
It's run through a couple of the texts. Now, I agree, Darcy.
The girls are where it's at with Rugby. For me,
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the abs come second. Now that is from John. I
mean that in itself is astonishing, isn't it. The AB's
come second? Now? Why is that? John? Why the buying?
What particularly does that for you? I can't tell you
what it is. You need to tell me. Don't give
us a ring. Andy writes, Hey, I care more than
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you do. I got up twice. What's wrong with you?
I can still care in delay, can't I my mid fifties.
I just ran out of steam and I couldn't stay
up and I didn't want to fall asleep in a
pile of my own dribble and miss the semi final
and missed the final. I think I timed it beautifully well.
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But that's a good point that you make. Thank you.
You do care Andy. I don't know why I sound
like I'm talking with my nose. I was possibly born
like that, But thanks very much for the text and
Ray and Sparky. Hope that no one at the triathon
swallow an eel out of the scene. It would be yeah,
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they don't, Darcy. I don't care about women's rugby. If
it's so great, why is the men's game paying them?
I'd rather watch schoolboy rugby. I'm interested in that assertion, Steve,
that the men's game is paying them. And this is
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a long standing, an old argument, and I get where
people are coming from from that that the money in
rugby isn't the men, it's for rugby. Because if that
was the case, and it was only the brands within
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rugby they were allowed to spend the money they generated,
nobody would have any money. The NPC wouldn't have any money,
Schoolboy rugby wouldn't have any money, women's rugby wouldn't have
any money. Super rugby might have a wee bit, but
not a great It'll all be for the All Blacks.
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Ends are as an entity is charged with looking after rugby,
and as I said, the growth theory in rugby is
with women, and it's very important that NZ are recognized that,
even though we know they're particularly good at this periment,
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it's all about the All Blacks. And though there were
anything to provide the all black, but the money that
they generate there needs to be spread so invariably it
can be lifted when you look at the and it's
been dominant for such a long time, and then the
steps that women's rugby have made in such a short
amount of time after laboring under this concept that women
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can't play rugby for so long, it's astonishing what they've achieved.
So you can't tell me. I mean, obviously you don't
like it, that's fine, and you don't need to agree
with me. But the men's game doesn't pay them. The
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game pays them, and we've got to stop with this.
Just because the All Blacks are successful and they draw
in all the money that no one else deserves any money.
The NJED are are in place to look after the
game of rugby in this country, and that's what they
have to do. And yep, the women are getting a
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bit of a leg up and it's been an astonishing
leg up over the last few years, no doubt. But
they need that leg up because they've had no leg
up previously. They've been left alone, they've been left floundering.
Now they follow the same path that men's rugby did.
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It'll take them another hundred years to get where men's
rugby got. And why do they have to They don't
because they can use everything that women that men's rugby brings,
and they can develop and their trajectory is going to
be very steep and it's only good for the game.
Sermon over, I actually thinks i'm a PC twat. Thanks. Actually,
that's great because being politically correct is actually positive. It's uplifting,
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it's forward thinking, it's woke. It's the right side of
history to die on. And you just stay in your
cave mate. Good luck to you there, Darcy. The women's
game is much more entertaining to watch than the men's game.
It could be the only reason we don't switch the
league full time. Thanks for that, Rachel. It's far more
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enjoyable they play with a smile on their faces. John,
although Paul, I'm not interested to watch female rugby. More
likely to see that and many other sports on live
TV than free to air live AB matches Darcy Raud
than when New zealn't want a gold medal in the
swimming or the cycling or athletics any day of the
week over second at rate seven's rugby golds in the
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sports where Olympics as the pinnacle, has so much more value.
Fair enough, the well, I get that because it's not
a traditional Olympic sport. So you want to succeed in
Greco Roman wrestling, okay, and I know that in skateboarding
another under disciplined. I think, what's that doing at the sport?
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And I think you're right around pinnacles And I'm not
going to disagree with you, but by saying second rate
seven's rugby, I think you've just displayed yourself for the
public to see. It's not second rate seven's rugby, it's
fantastic seven's rugby. This Newstalk's eb you're on sports Talk.
(33:27):
I love you calls one hundred and eighty ten eighty,
but you can pare me to text if you want
because my mouth something to do. This is Newstalk's e
B Guy I have Eld joins Aus says, surely we'll
look at the the vibe, the atmosphere in and around Paris,
look forward to what's happening, and all you reflecting on
(33:47):
what happened this morning with the black ferns. This is
news Talk's Abbitch TNA Sports Talk gladyst in News Sport
(34:12):
and we're the lurks at the top of the hour
with intent. After that, market Slash takes control of the program.
Let's go now to my former colleague, mister Guy have Velt.
He's over in Paris, along with pretty much everyone in
media in the whole country. Everyone's found themselves over there.
You like being an auckland Wood and a guy? How
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are you?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Former colleague but still a friend? See great to chat
to you. Yeah, very good, but warm. If I feel
like or sound like rather I'm out of a little
bit of breath, it's because I'm rushing to get to
the start of the men's triathlon after our television bulletin,
So just be with me. But yeah, beautiful day. It
has dawned now at rain this morning, and I've got
to be honest, I was well, I was going to
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say I was surprised at the swimming whin a hit.
I'm surprised in terms of them saying that apparently the
readings were okay for them to swimming after the rain
that we had, But I'm not so surprised that they
just pushed go anyway. But we are about what an
hour or so away from the men's triathlon, the women's triathlon,
if not has already finished, it would be very close
to old the thought.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, our fifty one and I'm actually watching it on
the TV now. So the French ones leading this, followed
by the Swiss, but that's another story for another day.
You said, surprise, what's the general chat around the state
of the scene. But as they spend two point four
billion New Zealand dollars trying to clean it up because
it's been a filth pit for one hundred years.
Speaker 8 (35:37):
Yeah, well, it has been illegal to swim in the
Seine for so long, and as you say, they's spend
billions of dollars to clean it up, they say so.
Yesterday when we had a press conference with Olympic Committee
bosses and also World Triathlon bosses, they said that they
did numerous tests throughout the triathlon course. Three of them
were above the threshold in terms of safety and one
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was considerably so. So you fast forward twenty four hours
and as I say, there's been rain this morning. So
I would have wondered, how on earth the quality of
the water gets better when there has been rain falling
from the sky. I don't think that's the case. I
think they just really wanted to get this done with
a swim. In saying all of that, I think the
athletes are very happy that this is going ahead as
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a triathlon for a couple of reasons. No one wants
to win a joathlon at the Olympics when it's meant
to be a triathlon and have that asterisk next to
the name for the rest of their days. And kind
of following on from that, you know, there are athletes
in this race who are very good swimmers who would
have had that element of the race taken away from them.
(36:41):
So I think the right thing has happened. Whether it's
the best thing in terms of health, I'm not so sure,
but I am personally glad we're having a triathlon race.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We we'll find out later in the piece. I don't mean,
it depends if anyone comes down terribly sick, but we'll know.
We don't know that immediately not I know, guy, an
asterisk next to your name, you've still got a medaline.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
I mean, yeah, I know, I know what you mean.
But the athletes are and rightfully so they'll always have
questions for the rest of their careers saying, oh, yeah, great,
you want a gold medal, but you did it without
the swim leags, so was it really a triathlon? Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And they don't want that, so they're all I know that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Well maybe not all of them have spoken to all.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Of them have really only got a gauge from Hayden,
but he said that most of the field is happy
that it is going ahead as a triathlon.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
What's been like after the outrageous success of the women's
sevens silver, gold, gold, This is quite the legacy, this
is quite the error.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
There are a lot of athletes who deserve gold medals
in this New Zealand team, or medals at all, but
few more so, if any more so, than that team.
The way they play, how good they are, the players
that they've got, the way they conduct themselves, the ease
with which they allow media access, which is sometimes a
bit of an anomaly. I should say in New Zealand
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rugby circles they are outstanding and I was just so
delighted for them to win. There was a bit of
pressure on them because everyone expected them to them and
in that final they hadn't really been tested all tournament,
but in that final by Canada, I thought they were.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Pushed quite far.
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Canada played very very well tested the Black Fern sevens,
but I think that resolved players like I know, Sarah
hit and he gave away some penalties, but man, when
it matted, she just stepped up massively.
Speaker 7 (38:31):
What a phenomenal player she is.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
Blied.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
They couldn't seem to find a way to stop her
Portchal Wooden Wincliffe was outstanding, Stacy Waker, Georgia Miller, recy
Pody Lane and even the rest of the women who
came on as well. It was just a full team
performance and I've been lucky enough to spend well a
full day with them in recent times and as I say,
they're just a delightful bunch of people that deserve a
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gold medal so much so.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, really happy with that.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Let's hope that it opens the floodgates for a few
more in the next next few days and maybe even
the next hour or two.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well we'll see, Andy. Let you go, and thanks very
much for joining us. Guy have elt out of Paris
courtesy of TV in Z. The sailors are turned things
around a wee bit, and the rollers have qualified for
a number of semis and finals too, so it's starting
to turn. The water born sports are doing the best.
Speaker 8 (39:22):
We don't have a lot of patience sometimes as a
country Garcia, so many time things that happen straight away. Look,
I think probably missed a couple of medals early on,
but were they genuine meddle.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
We I think, guy, you keep cutting outside. I think guy,
have helped my fallen into the scene they're about So
we're going to have to stop that dead now because
here pouor Havevelt's phone's gone pair shape at lest it
chose the right time to do it. Hey, The French
woman beau Grant has won the woman's triathlon shade under
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two hours one fifty four fifty Dron the Swiss Potter,
the Great British Entry and another French woman that Lombardy
make up your top four, so a huge success. For
the locals. They're absolutely loving that. So the men what
forty five minutes or so before they get to underway.
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And if you want to listen to that, the highlights
and all the other stuff that's coming up in the
form of rowing and sailing and so on and so forth,
gold Sport as where you can find that that action
on iHeart or just dieal it up on your radio.
He'll be sweet. We've got a phalanx of men providing
a commentary right the way through the night and it's milicage.
Thanks very much for warming the seat of producer Duff.
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I think you might be stuck with me all week.
You're lucky, lucky man. I'll be back again tomorrow from
at seven. So proud of the Black seven, So proud
of the Black Fern Seven's absolutely stoked. Stop bro
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