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some sport. What a month it has been for Lydia
Code off the back of her Olympic gold medal and
entry into the LPGA's Hall of fame. She's now won
the Open Championship, her third golf major and her first
since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Quite a part, but expect nothing else from the champion
Lake Lydia. She's sat the mark, whether asked to train.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Catch and they couldn't. She won by two strokes, finishing
seven under par overall on the old Old course at
Saint Andrews. Going to celebrate that tonight with one of
Lydia Coe's former coaches, in fact, her first coach, Guy Wilson,
standing by the Chattois and I've got a question for
you about the Hellbergs next year. I think we can
bring these questions up as and when they are appropriate.
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Dame Lisa Carrington or Lydia Coe for sportswomen of the Year,
give that some thought. We'll open the lines on that
a bit later. On other matters around tonight. The Newer
League men's football season now less than two months away.
Auckland FC Director of Football Terry mcflynn going to pop
in to update this on their progress. And Monday Night,
of course means Piney's Power Rankings rating the best and
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SEDB dot co dot in z. So what are we
eight and a half past seven?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
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Speaker 5 (02:47):
It's been eight and a half years since her last
major title.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Quite a part can expect nothing else from the champion
Lake Lydia. She's sat, sat the monk further asked to
train and patch.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
She's the seven underpart out. They've all got to try
and catch up Lydia co it is with a major
European summer. She is the first ever winner from New
Zealand of the AIG Women's Open.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Now let's bring in Ldia Coe's first coach who guided
her for eleven years, a very astute analyst of the
game of golf and still a high level coach, Guy Wilson,
as well as Guy an Olympic gold medal and the
Open Championship in quick succession. Can you somehow put into
context for us just how significant, This.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Is funny, thanks for having me, and yeah, geez, what
a month, What a month, What a way to string
some rounds together and get two of you what you'd
probably think is the highest eecaade you could get, a
gold medal after getting a bronze and a silver and
then winning at the home of Golf, doesn't get much
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doesn't get much better, and probably not as much special.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
To be honest, do you think.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Normal people understand just how hard it is to win
big tournaments like this?
Speaker 7 (04:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think you just sort of see, you know, someone
like this winning all the time, and they think, Okay,
you know, it's just what that person does. But when
you think about how big the came a golfers and
how impossible it is to win a tournament, let alone
multiple tournaments, and then do it when you're at the
end of your career, what she keeps saying that it is, Yeah,
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it's crazy, absolutely crazy, and where we're very lucky to
still have her flying this egg for us and importantly
playing the stage for us.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
LOI, you finished seven under for the tournament. She shot
seventy one, seventy seventy one, sixty nine, just six bogies
and seventy two holes and only two in the last
thirty six holes. How difficult is consistency like that to achieve?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, the condition is of the Open Championship always fickle
for wherether even though it's supposed to be summer, is
never really consistent. And even if you watch the broadcast
last night, you could see the seventeenth hole was hosing
down with the rain, win way off the right, impossible
three wood off the deck, and then the final ground
the eight ents. The next hole was bass in sunlight.
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And that's the Open Championship. It doesn't have much strength
in terms of length, but if the conditions come up,
it just bites. And just like the Men's Open with
the women. So it was great to see her or
thereabouts after the first round, and they are thereabouts after
the second, and after three rounds he was three back,
and you know, you just don't want to see her
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coming from behind because that's what is what she's going
to do if the leader just.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
On the conditions, they were atrocious. But do professionals deal
with bad weather better?
Speaker 8 (05:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, you know, the average weekend goal for Bobby
just decides not to bother. But the professionals actually, can
they deal with bad weather reasonably well for the most part.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, I think they understand what they're going to get
out of their shots, and understand the things that may
likely influence the direction or the shot. They've mostly got
the caddie there too to help them keep the clubs
dry and give your focus. And ultimately they're playing on
courses that are a little bit more used to dealing
with whether unlike how winter courses here in New Zealand
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where you mud halfway up your knee and went to
golf trudging around finding a sucker ball in the middle
of the stairway. So they are they're very very very
very good at what they do, and they're very used
to it as well, because golf is an all of
sport and.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Down the streets there were at one stage, I think
four players tied for the lead with just a handful
of holes to go. So again, what sort of mental
strength does it take knowing that even one bad shot
could scupper your chances?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, and that's the thing, And it's where where Nelly,
what made it double on sixteen or something fell in
the bunker, And when you're in there, that's is basically
death to your scorecut and your chances. And the people
that were on the leaderboard they're all you know, they're
all studs. Joe Oshan was up there too, and she's
she won the Open and a few years ago, so
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there's pedigree there. The good thing was the leader Obviously
she got in a bit earlier, so she was able
to put some pressure on the leaders to make birdies.
But that second shot on seventeen, if that had bounced
another foot to the left, would have been in that
road hole bunker and she probably was up for double.
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So crazy, crazy how how one shot can make the
rest of the rounding and her chances to go up
the final hole and make birdie.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And Lydia said several times, most notably recently, that her
career at the top maybe coming towards an end. She
talks about being on the back nine whatever that might mean.
You know, that might be a long time with this
recent success. How tempted might she be to just carry
on because she's not what is she? Twenty six, twenty seven?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, I mean I can't speak for her obviously, and
I guess she just wants some freedom to make some
decisions for yourself. And this game is a full time job. Obviously,
not a hell of a lot of time at home,
if there is such a thing at home when you're
on tour all week, all year round. But obviously you know,
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as a female, she wants to put priority into her family, probably,
and you can't do that when you're doing golf sort
of seven days a week. So she's only known golf
since she was four or five. So whilst she's only
twenty seven on a passport or a driver's loss, since
she's she's done a lifetime with golf.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I think you met her when she was five, didn't you.
I mean, hindsight, it's a wonderful thing, but could you
tell that something special was in the offing here?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Yeah, you never really know. I wasn't enough coach back then.
I was just learning how to coach golf as well.
So I mean we were both lucky to meet each
other so many years ago, and you know, I started
sort of noticing things. I was noticing she was different
when she was sort of eleven or twelve, but that
was still six years after teaching her English and her
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math and that sort of thing. When we're out on
the golf course, So you know we were good for
each other.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Yeah, what a time. And just to finish it, it seems
odd to be talking about the legacy of someone who
was not even thirty years old yet. But if her golf,
the golf chapter of her life does soon come to
an end, is there any way of articulating what her
legacy will be?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Well a great question. I think she's changed the game
of golf and New Zealand for sure. What she was
sort of getting told off for doing back in the day,
doing golf at day every day and not doing schoolwork
has basically shaped the way that you create a champion.
And now that's what everyone's doing. They're putting everything else
aside and doing one thing and doing it really really well.
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So great for New Zealand to have her with all
these championships and major championships, not just Michael Campbell and
Bob Charles, but now we've got Lydia out there.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Holding the.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Having her first in the year game that that's how
we do things in New Zealand. So great for his
own golf and they did a really good job to
keep pushing her in the right direction and help her
along the way. So without Sir David Levine back in
the day as well. Who knows where we would have
been with her.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, well you play the massive part in it too, mate,
thanks indeed for chatting to us, Guy, really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
No problem, thanks mate, No, thank you guy.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Guy Wilson their first ever coach of Lydia Coe from
the time she was five years old all the way
through until when she was sixteen, so a massive, massive
part of her success. I mean, she's only twenty seven.
It's crazy, isn't it. You know the time she's been around,
but she's only twenty seven years old. Incredible, great to
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chat to. Guy Wilson, a pretty astute judge of the
game of golf in a particularly As I said at
the top, I've got a fairly simple question for you tonight,
and that's around the Halbergs and the Sportswoman of the
Year next year. Already this conversation is starting to bubble away.
In an Olympic year, it's always hard not to pick Olympians,
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and of course Lydia Co is an Olympic gold medalist,
but Dame Lisa Carrington is a three time Olympic gold medalist. However,
Lydia Co has just won a major, which does not
happen all the time. Last one she won, as exceptional
a golfer as she is was twenty sixteen. Lisa or
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Lydia Carrington or co oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty if you have a view on that text it
through to ninety two ninety two if you would prefer.
We started the conversation on our Facebook page this afternoon
as well, and I've got a bunch of responses. There
some really interesting ones as well. I think the issue
we sometimes strike when we have these discussions is that,
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in order to give weight to the person we have
as our favorite, we look to kind of, I guess,
denigrate the feats of the other one. We simply don't
have to do that here. There's no need. We don't
have to have to, you know, play down or do
you know downplay is probably the better phrase the achievements
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of one or the other, because because Dame Lisa Carrington
got three gold medals, Lydia Coe got a gold medal
and one of the hardest sports there is to win one,
and she's won a major, so there's no you know,
even whoever doesn't get it, you can't oh, you know,
they've had a terrible year. It's just two exceptional sportswomen.
And at least I forget Alise Andrews. She got a
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couple of gold medals as well, forgot to stacked category
at the Hallbergs. And you'd have to think that whoever
wins that one may well also win the Supreme Award.
Be Ken on your thoughts eight hundred eighty ten eighty Trevor,
how are you, mate?
Speaker 9 (13:06):
He's finally all right.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm good.
Speaker 9 (13:08):
Yeah, yeah, what a choice that's going to be.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I know they want to see better than than us, Mate,
better then than us.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
You're not one of the esteemed people on the on the.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No m no, mate, No, not me.
Speaker 9 (13:23):
Hey, look what I want to talk about. I mean,
we don't need to talk about lady's achievement and golfmin
I just want to talk about her as a person
and her journey. I mean, you know, her and her
and her mom and dad and sister come to New
Zealand probably for a better life or better education for
their children, and they had a dream and Lydia probably
had some talents from that, and you know, they probably
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would have had a bit of a struggle with playing
we're Jennimer of struggle of not racism, but that sort
of talk and that. And I remember Lydia when she
come in front of us, you know, ten and eleven,
and she'd get interviewed and she'd say, oh, I miss
going out the school things and things like that, and
people and some high profile people in New Zealan.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
See.
Speaker 9 (14:04):
You know, the parents shouldn't be doing that to her.
You know, she should be allowed to be a kid
first and foremost. And then she went to but she
always and this is what I like about it. She
must have stood by her parents, believed in her parents,
and let her parents decide what the best future for
her is. And then she went with David lead Better.
But he packed a bit of her sad because he
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couldn't get full control of her.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
She was.
Speaker 9 (14:29):
I mean, he's a well famous coach and you know
he said that her parents had too much saying what
she does. But of course I think he was a
bit because he usually takes full control of the golfers
and gets everything out of him. And you know, I
just think it's amazing really that you know, in New Zealand,
you have a dream. Difficulties make them tough decisions and
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how he can end up. And you know what I said, Lydia.
You know, I know this is not important, but she's
twenty seven, she's worth twenty five million dollars, and she
is a lovely, lovely never any controversy. She is so polite.
And I tell you I'll never forget the day in
that final round of those Olympics, the first three rounds
I saw if she wore white, and on that final
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day she come out on more black and won the
gold medal. And I just think that was absolutely fantastic.
So just not as a sporting person, but you know
just what you can achieve in New Zealand with a
little bit of adversity, you know. So let's say she's
just a magnificent, magnificent person, and all credit.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
To her parents.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Good on your travel, very well, said mate, very well said,
I agree. I hadn't picked up on that. You're right, Yeah,
I knew she wore black in the fourth round. Hadn't
picked up on the fact she wore white in the
first three. Well, it must have worked for her. Terrific stuff.
Thanks indeed, Trevor, I appreciate it. Hard to call, says
this text for Sportsperson of the eck and there be
a tie. And when will lydia Co become Dame lydia Co.
(15:59):
We have a number of Dames and a number of
sports lydia ranks up there with them. We should have
Dame lydia Coe. We may well have that one day.
Which way are you leanting here, Derek?
Speaker 10 (16:10):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (16:10):
Look, I've been keeping up with this conversation on the
line of it today and I was as polished at
some of the reports, like nobody wants to down Lisa Carrington,
No one wants to say that. But you know, the
world of kayaking versus the world of goal. For me,
what are we playing? Are we all playing dumb here
or something that we just don't want to say anything
that's controversial?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Look, oh, no, I think so. I think, I know.
I think you make a good point, Derek. You make
a great point. It is, Yeah, if you're looking at
the global appeal, in the global participation. I read an
article this afternoon and I'm not sure whether this is
good or bad, but Donald Trump even tweeted about lydia
Co to see one Olympic gold. You know, that's how
much cut throughs he gets.
Speaker 11 (16:49):
Yeah, Look, it's it's not even going to be close.
I mean, you can say all the sentimental things, but
if you're the Hallberg Panel Supreme Award, Lydia Coe is
a dead third. I mean, this is not eveything close.
I mean, I thought the best gold medal that we
got at the Games was the Glamour Track and Field
with famous care I thought was the best. Lex Garrington's
done pretty well. You know, you have to say, in
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the in the world of Kaya King, she's right with
the Ferguson and his monks, and you know that the
legends and that sport. But no, I don't think so.
I Meanly's light years ahead. I mean I've heard people
even say Lisa Carrington is the greatest athlete in the
history of New Zealand. You know, they're going a little
bit overboard here and talking about dames. I think, look,
it's just a simple case. Normally in a Hellberg year
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they looked to the gold medal in liter.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Was incredible.
Speaker 11 (17:35):
She put on a display of golf like I mean,
a short game in France was just incredible. But look
all that aside. She did what she had to do.
She got the gold medal, and then she dropped off
to the British Oven at Olds and Andrews. Of course,
the the home of golf, I mean, and the let's
face it, a lot of people complain sometimes in the
Lynx Golf. I think it's a fantastic level, like you
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really see the skill of the short game. And I
think today she put on clinic of pressure golf at
the right time and she just did what she had
to do. And I think if the Hellberg panels, unless
they're all playing dumb, you know, I think it's a
really true to their word and true to what they're
supposed to be doing.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
There.
Speaker 11 (18:14):
If they look at the entire world of golf and
the spectacle and what lydia Co has done in the
history of sport, especially the sport of this country, they'll say, look,
it's lydia Coe by a country mile. I don't. I'm
astonished as people even think it's going to be close.
And look that's not dinner graating into the other gold medalist.
I mean, the cycling girl was fantastic and once again
Amish fantastic and Blissa Carrington is great as far as
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kayaking goes. But at the end of the day, boy,
this is for me. I'm astonished at the fact that
this conversation is even happening. I think Lydia Coa's is
going to bomp home. That's my thoughts. Unless something's going
to happen between then and now. I just can't see
you're not getting the award and winning it by a
country mind, Jason, Good on.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You, Derek, thanks mate, good points, well made as always
by you. Got a couple of fans out there too, mate,
Derek Ice cold water running through his veins. That's why
I like him, He's so straight up. Got an email
here from Glenn I want to read in just a sec. Actually,
just get back to the line. I don't want to
keep you holding a cat. I Craig, I'm good.
Speaker 12 (19:14):
I how are you?
Speaker 6 (19:15):
James? All right?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Very good?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
Craig, yeah, good good. I do concur with your previous
caller basically, but it's a tough one because and that
well tell you what that done. The recent two matches
from Lidia actually blew me away. Especially last night. I
went to bed thinking, oh, yeah, she'll probably maybe, maybe not.
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But when I got up this morning listen having a
coffee listening to the news at seven o'clock and the
sportune has come on Aldi, I've done it again. You know,
I was really donetounded.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, it's hard enough to win a tournament, Craig as
you know, it's hard enough, like the very fact that
her last major was in twenty sixteen, eight years ago.
Just he's an exceptional golfer. But then to win a
gold medal and this one in the space of a month,
it's astonishing.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
And on a links course, yes, yes, yes, and Scotland
what a horror. But anyway, but I'll tell you what
a reflect back and I'm showing made now for a
refleetback many moons ago when the middle of It married,
Deca was commentating and he was very close to her there.
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In fact, I think they used to share a share
a game, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yes, I didn't think yes.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
And it was up at Golf Harbor. But he used
to come. He used to say, listen, I had it.
I'm not big noting anything, but we had a few
we had had a few holes. And I can tell
you he used to undermine everything. You know what I mean.
But yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Down play everything, down everything. I know what you mean.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I know what I can tell you now And it
was old. I can tell you what now, you listen
to me. She has the champ in the mating.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It was right, Craig, He was right, wasn't he?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
He was absolutely being on Jason.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well they got a lot of things right actually, Dex, Yeah,
he was. He knew his stuff and he certainly knew
his golf and knows his golf. Good on you, Craig,
Good to cheat to you, mate, Yeah, yeah, Dex, you're right.
Dixon and Lydia did spend a bit of time together
on the golf course. Yeah, no, he was. Yeah, he
knew a good player when he saw one. Glenn emails Jace,
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I was wrong. Lydia didn't need to shoot five hunder
to win. She was aggressive and she did it, and
she did it in style. Never mind the birdies, all
the parpart saves. It was the second shot on seventeen,
as a typhoon like squawll came came in that skirted
the roadside bunker and gave her a straightforward two part
part that epitomized her men till, steal and scale. It
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is hard to find adjectives to describe her or her
two recent wins. Non golfers cannot appreciate how every shot
can be a disaster. Just ask Nellie Quarter. It's like
a match point in tennis or a penalty in football.
Imagine having to complete nearly three hundred of those to
win a tournament. She is the ultimate competitor, but she
doesn't succumb to histrionics and remains humble and gracious at
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all times. She is so worthy of her place in
the LPGA Hall of Fame. She truly is a great
in every sense of that oft misused word. Thank you,
Glenn could not have put a bit of myself. Seven
twenty nine, Conrad, hold there with you right after this bearline,
if you want to jump aboard, oh, eight hundred eight
ten eighty seven thirty one, Lee is going to be
number one in your power rankings tonight. Piney surely says
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this text. Well, I guess you'll just have to wait
and see. I don't want to spoil it. Hello, Conrad,
thanks for holding Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
That was a great We just said was great, but
I'd add to it. Every caller can think of what
they were doing when they were the these ages fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,
eighteen and nineteen, right, but that age group. Right, I
don't care about twenty five year olds or thirty year
olds who forget about that the age fifteen, Okay, Lydia
is on the golf course, you know, maybe one thousand
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hours a year, you know, I mean incredible, it's incredible.
That's what you've really got to think about, right, that
age group. That's how much. So that's the first point
trying to like. The second point I'm trying to make
is that her parents took a risk. You've got to
think about the whole parenting thing, and you know, the
risk that they took to put their daughter in this
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position in an insanely competitive environment.
Speaker 11 (23:46):
Right.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
And the third thing, and this is a real, real
thing I already want to say that I love about golf,
is that no amount of drugs or peds is going
to help you win a major.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Nh.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You need to calm down more than anything, don't you.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
You're right, it's right, Okay, thanks that kid.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
No, No, the first point you make was so valid.
At fifteen years old, I would have stuck with most
things for about an hour. You know. For her to
single mindedly, right through her teenage years give everything to
the game of golf shows a single mindedness and a
focus and a dedication to her craft that is extremely rare,
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so rare, and listening to Guy Wilson say that basically
it's set the blueprint for how you make a top golfer. Look,
I think we all agree that balance is better. We
all buy into that. But Lydia Koe's way also worked
for her single minded dedication and tunnel vision around this
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goal of being the best in the world at golf. Hey, Maria, Hello.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
So I've got a bit of a different angle on
Lydia Coe. My mother in law was her school teacher,
right and just by the bye, she was a dedicated
student in all of her subjects, my mother in law says,
But my mother in law noticed Lydia Coe and said
to her, I'd like you to sign me a golf
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ball and give it to me, please, because one day
you're going to be famous and a big deal and
I'm going to have a golf ball signed by Lydia Coe.
And my mother in law has a golf ball signed
by Lydia Coe.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Wow, how old would she have been when she signed
How old would she be when she signed up? That's teenage?
Speaker 12 (25:40):
Yeers, Well, my mother in law is a teenager, a
high school teacher. She was a math teacher at the
college she went to. My husband went to school with her,
and yeah, so she would have been maybe sixteen seventeen
years old, and she signed a golf ball and gave
it to my mother in law. I wonder what it
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would be worth.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
These Maria, I was going to say, I was going
to say, how much would got somewhere safe?
Speaker 11 (26:08):
She does?
Speaker 12 (26:08):
Well, I mean I'm suddenly safe. It's in a draw
somewhere in her house and I'm not there, and I'm
and I'm not going. And I'm not going to tell
you where she lives because you know, someone someone fanatical.
But yeah, she she has a golf one. Occasionally she
humble brags about it. She's like, yeah, I called it
and I've got I've got to go full sign. And
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I'm like, yeah, but does it count if you got
the golf full signed before she became a big deal,
because it's.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I reckon it's worth more. I reckon it shows incredible
foresight from your mother in law.
Speaker 12 (26:41):
Well, yeah, and to be fair, I mean she did
amazingly in all of her school work subjects, so she
wasn't as tunnel visioned as we might think. She was
good at school and amazing on the golf course. So
you know, hats off to her, hard worker in every
aspect of her life. And my mother in law had
only good things to say.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
About her, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 12 (27:04):
Yeah, so I don't watch the sport at or do
not care about it at all, but I just thought,
well I've got something valid to say, Yes, so I will.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You've got that was I think it's a call of
the night, Maria. Thank you for thank you for picking
up the phone. I really appreciate it. All right, by
all right, see if bye bye, call Beck any time
you see. See that's extremely valid, extremely valid force, extreme
foresight from Maria's mother in law. Have you got a
sign golf ball, Martin or no?
Speaker 13 (27:34):
No, I can't have order mind a sign golf ball?
That would be very nice, it would so, Yeah, certainly Jason,
Bothlitzer and and when you know a couple of success
and a bit of success in golf. But I think
I think Lisa is probably going to pick up the
overall gone, I think it's going to be a lot
closer than people think. A lot of your callers may
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not appreciate that Lisa is currently sitting eighth equal with
the most gold medals all time. If she goes to
another Olympics, wins one more, she'll be second equal. M
So I wouldn't put my house on it, but I
think I wouldn't be at all surprised if she picks
up the gold next year, assuming of course, that Lydia
doesn't win another major in the meantime. That's true, those
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things will change. It certainly will be closer. It's like
trying to pick the result of who's going to be
the next All Black coach. Everyone says, oh, it's going
to be him. Well, as we know, it's not always
the way we think it's going to go. So I
think it's going to be very close. Good, yeah, right,
which either way it goes?
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, Well, it's hard to argue with three gold medals,
isn't it. I know that, you know, yes, Lydia won
a gold and it's won a major, and then you
look at Elise Andrews has got two golds and a
silver and you think, okay, three golds probably beats that
if you're looking at it like in terms of which
poker hand beats which, but you know, does it yea,
does three golds be the gold and a major in golf?
I guess that's the hell Burg judging panels decision to make,
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isn't it.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, I mean Lydia.
Speaker 13 (28:59):
Obviously, Lydia got the gong when she won her first major,
and I guess that was in twenty sixteen. Yes, men,
whoever wins between lest from Lydia will be the overall
winner as well. But you know, there is a bit
of time until the Hubbergs come around. But like I say,
it is going to be a tough decision. It won't
be a walk in the park. Although I would perhaps
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agree with you earlier caller that you know, golf has
a much higher profile, of course, but it is hard
to go past someone who's the leading Olympic gold medalist
all time.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Indeed, thanks Mardon, Yeah, absolutely good points one as many
as you say, Bolt. Now, you know it's crazy, isn't it.
It's crazy? A lot of people, thanks for you call, Mard.
A lot of people are suggesting they should they should
have a joint winners. And look, let's say a hundred
of us set around a table and tried to and
tried to come up with a consensus. Do you think
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we'd reach one. Would be hard, wouldn't it? Twenty one
away from Thanks for all your calls and your texts
on that, No doubt that conversation will continue to bubble away.
Want to move on though, to some football. The new
A League Men's season is now less than two months
away and the league's newest edition. Auckland f C are
going to play their first match on the nineteenth of
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October against Brisbane at Mount Smart. The first derby between
Auckland f C and Wellington Phoenix is in round three,
that is in Wellington. Auckland f C's Director of football
is Terry mcflinney. Joins us now, Terry, thanks for taking
the time. How do you reckon your place?
Speaker 6 (30:27):
What?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'm now just under eight weeks out from your first
game of a league football?
Speaker 8 (30:32):
Yeah? Look, Jess, we're in a really good place, you know.
I think we spoke back in November about the strategy
of the club and given as many New Zealand players
as possible into the group, given some young players from
Auckland in particular.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Chance.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
We've got twenty one players signed, seventeen from New Zealand.
Fourteen of those are from Auckland. So we're in a
very very good police recruitment's still going with the visa
players to come in and we've just got back from
a troop into Australia for a preseason camp, which is
very very pleasing. So yeah, we're well pleased as we
stand at the minute.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You said exactly that to me, you said, look, we
are very keen to promote keyw healent. Did you ever
deviate from that? Did you always feel us though you
would have the cattle available to you that you needed.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Yeah, look, we took our time. We came across early
part of the year this year, watched a lot of
the local games. We went to Egypt to meet with
the All Whites team to see how many of the
boys wanted to come back year one, year two, where
the level of interest was. We didn't dev it from
the plane at all, Jason, and we're very very happy
where we're landed.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So Japanese defender Hrocki Sakai is currently you're only import.
Will you fill? Will you fill the other four before
the season starts? Is that the plan?
Speaker 8 (31:44):
There's the plans, isn't it? And we're very much signed
the track with a few import players at the minute.
So yeah, look, we're very very happy where we're at
in terms of the squad over'reall, and then we're progressing
now with the visa players.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Are there any positions that you think you're a little lighting.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Look, we've always we'll always have two players for every
position and then a couple of utility players across the
group as well. So there is a couple of positions
where we're we've only got one player in those positions
at the minute, So they're the areas that will be
looking to fill.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Like when you are looking for those important players, I
mean you must get I don't know, dozens hundreds of
players to look at, you know, suggested to you by
agents or whatever it is recommended to you. How do
you make the decision? Terry? How do you how do
you say, Okay, that might be a guy who would
fee what we're all about?
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Yeah, we've alvitually got a recruitment strategy and recruitment plan.
Our recruitment is based on two things just competence. First
and foremost. We need to know that the players come
in here for the right reasons. They want to benefit
you should in football, they want to benefit the A
League and they want to progress some careers. The second
part is obviously at a level where they're going to
enhance the group and improve the group. And it's important
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for us, especially the foreign players that are coming from
a professional level, whether that be in Europe, South America,
wherever it may be, that the young players that we've
got in the group can learn from them and see
what it is to be a professional football and behave
and act on and off the pitch.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Yeah, those two things, you know, you summarize a perfect
player competence and character. Competence I would imagine as easier
to judge than character. I mean, you're gonna get highlights,
taps and say, okay, that guy's got a bit about them.
How do you how do you make sure you're getting
the right characters? Do you reference check? How does that work?
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, we did a lot of reference checks. We've did
a lot of past history where the players have played,
speak to the x teammates, coaches, staff that may have
worked to that player at various different clubs. Social media,
you know, you can tell a lot about Toma's personality
by the things they're posted on on social media. So
there's a lot of lot goes into it to make
sure we get the right people.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Can you talk us through the series of events which
led to Alex Paulson arriving at the club on loan
from Bournemouth.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
Yeah, look, it was a it was a fun call
from Bournemouth to myself and Nick our CEO asking about
Alex that they are recruitment team and go to identify
Alex as a player that Premier League club. There's a
conversation round why we didn't go after Alex as a
club when we said that there's no domestic transfer system
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in the league here. That was sort of where it
ended from our part. Bournemouth tried home with their negotiations
with Wellington, signed a player and then we got a
notification that there was to be a change in the
kiss Hearst rule and would we'd be open to explore
and as long as we've stayed within the rules and
by all means we're open to explore in it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
It has it been a funny situation to navigate with.
I mean, we all know the background Erry, you know
was he was a fan favorite at Wellington. Phoenix hit
it off to Bournemouth all of a sudden, is it
is it Wellington's newest rivals. Has there been any any
difficulty navigating the whole thing for the club or for
the player himself.
Speaker 13 (34:53):
No, look for us.
Speaker 8 (34:54):
It was again was driven by Bournemouth and Wellington. It
was a transaction between two clubs and then obviously when
the loan agreement came through to us and where we
sat with it. We spoke to Alex if it was
some that he would like to explore. Bournemouth obviously had
their conversations with Alex as well in the year. One
would be alone opportunity for him, and obviously being an
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oxhand boy, there was a lot of synergy and a
lot of things that ticked a lot of boxes for everyone.
And yeah, we're you know, again the best goalkeeper in
the competition with delighted to have them on board of us.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
How much you're looking forward to the derby matches.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
Yeah, very much so, Jason. You know, I was fortunate
enough to be involved in the Sydney Derby when that
started a few years back, and just the energy and
the buzz that you know, you could feel around the
city and particular in this situation, around the whole country.
You know, he had two professional clubs in the country, Shuts.
I think it's something that all football fans in this
country is embracing and really relishing. And you know, when
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we speak to the supporters here and in Aukland's all
they talk about is the derby and how they can't
wait to have for the first time ever two professional
teams playing in at the derby in the country. Shuts.
There's going to be a fantastic occasion the first one.
You know, hope that all the fans come out like
Wellington had in the semi final against Melbourne and fill
up the stadium. So yeah, we're really looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
And you've arrived in the in the Auckland football ecosystem,
I guess we can call it. How hard have you
worked to make connections with the existing amateur clubs in
your region?
Speaker 8 (36:24):
For us, it's very very important. You know, we said
that from day one that we wanted to be a
team for the community, from the community. You know a
lot of the players that we've signed again have come
from the oak come from the local competition here. So
we've been to every ground, We've met every president, we've
had all the club meetings. You know, the players that
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we signed with the trainer competition. We put that money
back into the clubs. For us, it's abode not just
having an a league team at a professional level, but
it's actually providing the service to football in the whole
region of making sure that you know, these kids coming
through that are seventy nine ten years of age today,
they've got a professional club to play for in five
to six, seven, eight years. So yeah, and all the
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clubs have a bit fantastic you know, we've been really
welcome and we've actually taken a few trainentations to read
the rhymes as well, which has been fantastic, So we're
really enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Good stuff. You're doing all the right things. I really
like the look of the roster. The next eight weeks
can't go past quickly enough as far as football fans
are concerned. Terry, thanks for taking my call, mate, and
look forward to catching up again when the season rolls.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
Around, No problem, Jason, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Thanks man. That's Terry mcflint, director of football at Auckland FC.
The season starts for them on Sunday, October nineteen, fourteen
to eight. When we come back Piney's Power Rankings Our rankingsday.
All right, let's go Monday Night means Piney's Power rankings
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rating the best, the worst and the in between. Buts
from the Sporting Weekend for failing to sin Ben Stephen
Crichton for a shoulder to Roger Touy Vasaschek's face. It's
the bunker at Tens.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I got it.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
Of Mitiga.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, there's not. At least Andrew webs to let them
know about it.
Speaker 14 (38:14):
I'm struggling to understand how like a shoulder can go
into Roger's head and the bunker can It's got agents
to see critical time of the game and then Wheeler's
Roger and their play goes on.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
That's nine.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Nine is Scotty Dixon. This will be a big hit
Dixon hard into the war. One of the championship contagers
is out and don't here not today. A quick outing
for Scott Dixon and the latest indiecar Race eight eight,
the America's Cup challenges. They just.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Really we're retired.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Keep on breaking down. So okay, some breaking news here
for race number eight. We have just been informed that
Orient Express Racing haven't retired eventually, though Team New Zealand
worth faced with some strong competition match coming down as
a finish of race number thirteen, they will record win
number three, but most of portantly, their conference will go
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through the room. Seven Sevenslando Norris.
Speaker 15 (39:17):
Mclarence bounce back after the summer break, take the Dutch
Grand Prix. Lonzo Norris wins in sand Vaults. That championship
challenge is ignited here by the shores of the North Sea.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
They're making a real race of it in the Formula
One Championship. Six. Staying with Motorsport, thegers Shane van Gisbergen,
sheen ben Gisbergen has been perfect.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
He has navigated the streets of Chicago two perfection.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
The final time under the front stretch, he comes to
the checkered flag, He's work the very bou street. Yeah,
maybe we'll be hearing a lot more of that. Shane
van gisberg And confirmed now as a full time NASCAR
Cup driver next year. Five lu Lusawn falling just short
of him maiden WTA.
Speaker 11 (40:06):
Win not to be the fairy tale run stopped at
the final hurdles.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Pluly Son.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It was terrific throughout.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Indeed she was and still at a world high in
the rankings too. Four four is this incredible Norwegian jakub
Ingerbritson bouncing back from the disappointment in Paris. The crowd
know what's going on? What's that club? The world record
seven twenty point six seven is going to be smashed
here private Norwegian. There's a world record yet again for
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Jaku being a resident. An absolute obliteration of the world
record in the three thousand meters, speaking of which three
is Armon Duplantis Another day, another world record for this
remarkable Paul vaulter.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
Here he goes to chime back to his own world
record by one centimeter. Monday de plantists at six twenty
six another world record the Monday to.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
The Plantist two.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Hayden Wild, our own Hayden Wild finally getting onto the
top of the podium.
Speaker 15 (41:10):
Haden Wild denied at the deck in Boston, turns it
around and big style. Here in Chicago, Will Lee the
championship crown doesn't again and hated Wild.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Gets one back. Yeah he does. In ded Elex, she's
not even on the podium. That's a shame. But there
can only be one number one, and of course it
is Lydia Co.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Quite a part. Could expect nothing else to the champion
like Lydia she's sat the mark for the rest to.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Train patch Lydia co it is with a major European summer.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Are you happy with the power rankings as they've been outlined, Andy,
it's very happy.
Speaker 8 (41:53):
Well done?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Oh good, that's all. Nothing could change.
Speaker 10 (41:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
If I could put Lydia one, two and three I
probably would, but sure of that I can't. I can't
really do that.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
So well done.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
You've done it right for once. Thank you, Andrew six
to eight pinet his power rankings back next Monday night,
coming up three to eight Marcus Lush on your radio
after eight o'clock to take you through the rest of
your Monday. Thanks for tuning in. Huge thanks to any
McDonald for producing the show Man in the Phones and
all the other sorts of things. We started by celebrating
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Gary Knight's birthday, saying it was it by a flower
bomb in the eighty one test between you All Blacks
and the Springboks Eden Park text through my English teacher's
brother drop those flower bombs. I was in the fifth form.
I'm sure Gary Knight would love to make your English
teachers brother's acquaintance at some point. Thanks for listening. In
(42:47):
Darcy Watergrave tomorrow night. We're back on Weekend Sport on Saturday.
See you then.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
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