August 28, 2024 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting week in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
Isaac Peach - Peach Boxing Head Coach - On the rise of combat sports in New Zealand
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Raylene Bates - New Zealand Paralympic Chef de Mission - On the opening of the games.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Twenty twenty four. This is sports Stork.
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We talk sport from now through until eight o'clock tonight.
When I say we, I mean myself you Railean Bates,
New Zealand, the Paralympic Chief. The mission of course the
Paralympic Skid underway at New Zealand times six o'clock tomorrow
morning with the opening ceremony, and we're gonna hit the
ground up running with the head trainer at Peach Boxing Gym.
His name is Isazac Peach. Jerome Pampalone has an IBF
(01:18):
Light Heavyweight world title eliminator fight tonight in Sydney. Yet
another KIWI doing well in combat sports, and we're gonna
pull that apart as we take your calls on eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Where the strength has come from,
why the support is there, and indeed if you have
actually brought in to combat sports here in New Zealand,
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with the success upon success.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Of a number of our athletes.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's our thoughts are one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
That's that I'm gonna call it. In text nineteen ninety
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coach in supreme troll Rasci Rasmus.
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be bad coaches, we'll be super players, will be at
agant nation will be well, we could we put back
in our place to US.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
US tennis player on me, Osaka is good with open
displays of emotion. She water worked after belting tense seed
that Yelena Ostapenko six ' three six two at a
venue where she is welled up at before Satchmo's court.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, I would say yes, And it was probably
on the same exact court, so maybe it's that court
that does something to me. It's funny, though, I feel
like I cried a lot more now than I did
like winning Slam, so that's a little funny.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And I say Saxmo's court at Louis Armstrong's court because
his name was satchel Mouth. That was his nickname. Apparently
when he was busking, used to pick the coins up
as a kid and put them in his mouth so
other kids wouldn't steal it, so satchel Mouth, hence Satchmo.
The things you find out Alea McDonald's bird flip, either
to hymn or from it has meant a coaching shuffle
on the All Blacks. It'scott Hansen picked the attack straw.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
No stress there, We've adjusted, we're working on it. It's
been a good day today and the boys.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Have been really good.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We've got key drivers that drive there, so they've been
really supportive of what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And number three players, number one hundred and eighty six
at the US Open, Carlos Alcareve has heaped praise on
the Aussie outside of lou T after besting him in
four six. TV and Z plus caught this comment from
the Iberian great player.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I wish your price say so once again, but I'm
gonna follow. I'm gonna follow here he results from now
because I'm pretty sure that if he's playing at this level,
I'm gonna sit here around anybody.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So what Scott today?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Huge night and combat sports tonight boxing, particularly in the
squared circle. We're joined now by Isaac Peach, of course,
the trainer behind a man who is close to a
world title fight. Jerome Pampalone is our man tonight he
takes on Connor Wallace in a world title eliminator. Isaac,
welcome to the program. First up, just describe the energy
(04:18):
and darling harbor leading up to a fight like that.
What's it like, palpable.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
I'm presuming today's pretty quiet because it's kind of come
before the storm. But the last few days been pretty busy.
It's a full house here and it's a bog fight, man.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Huge fight. So in the lead up, so today's pretty quiet.
You need a bit of time to breathe. And I
suppose master your thoughts. Is that standard in the fight game?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
You have that calm?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Is you always like that?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Man? Usually a couple of days before everyone's spelting around
and everyone's excited and voiceous, and then day of the
fight it's quite quiet. Everyone's kind of kidching themselves and
then we get in there and before.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right, So what's Jerome been specifically, what he'd been working
on with him in the Leader after what happened last
time around is O went he had that that loss
that up against Mullegs Zanard, So what have you been
focusing on? Do you look back much to that exchange?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Isaac?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Yeah, Look, we've got our best to pick up our game.
I mean, we've tried to better ourselves in all areas.
We didn't really step up last time. We only just
lost a world class guy, but it wasn't good enough.
And we've worked on all the one percenters just to
get over the line.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
And this time. You always say it with your guy,
but I really.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Feel drones in his beds and I'm bloody excited for tonight.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
And we've worked really hard. We've had a great camp.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Looking back to that fight and that loss, you say
the one percent is what particularly? Was it work inside?
Was it outside? Was controlling the fight? Was it getting
in the corner, staying in the middle of mean, what
did you actually look like? What did you look at?
But that particular fight where you think one of those
one percent didn't quite hit the.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Mark Wells a few things.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Man, we hit the Mulligs and abol shot field and
killed a guy and he smilered us. So it as
all as popping out of his heads. We've got some
queries on what was going on regarding drugs that night.
If you go rewatch the fight, you see what I mean.
But also he had a good game plan. They had
a good, good game plan. They keep us away, they
keep us on the end of the jab. Jerome got
staying with a few shots that heard him and got
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him bit of a glaze.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
And we couldn't quite couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
In this game, when you get to the to the
top level, if you're not quite.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
There, you're not going to win.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
So we put a lot out of it. We got
twelve hard rounds and Drome's a been quite impore it.
We're not going to make those mistakes, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Hey go back to what you said about the drug accusation.
Have you gone any further with that? Well, what's the grounding,
what's the basis on that, what's being done?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Just the rum and all that was going around where
we were, But I mean, we can't control that.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
These guys dot paper coreat just so no, we're happy
that you.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Got through now. Connor Wallace described the man in the
other corner. What does he got what thirteen and one?
So plainly he's got whiskers, he can take a shot.
What else do you know about him?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Oh, it's good, he's Irish. He's a really good self forum.
He's all good.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Self for He's had a lot of amateur fights.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
He's the top right everyweight beside the world.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
We think Dromers and it's a world class pipe manders.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Why it's for a world title. So look, we know
what we're up against.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
But I think Jerome's slide heavyweight honest day in the world.
And I need to get the best drone to win
this fight, and I think I've got it right now.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We're talking with Isaac Peach out of the Peach Boxing gym.
As far as the crowd goes a lot of people
there and I'm presuming most of them will be barracking
for Jerome, being that he's you know, he's an Anzac,
He's from the Southern heman's feet well, he represents the
Southern fear even though it's a north Port.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
The guy who lives in Australia, he's got a big
Irish support.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
No one wants us to win. On to go and
from as well, so we've been treated like shit, to.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
Be honest with you, So we're going to go shove
up everything year and we're really motivated and we've got no.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Time for anyone in the super country. We're coming to
rob it in their face. And it's what kind of
crew have you got to be?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You've got a big posse that's over there helping out yourself,
your trainers the like, as well other entourage there, Isaac.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
No, we don't do that way. We roll alone. Cows
rolling groups, we roll alone. We've got me Jerome, my brother.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Usually here, but he's actually had an operation, so it's
me Jerome and my wife and.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
We've got a doctor, doctor Sam here to do the cats.
That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What else is happening in the gym? Mikaylevitch, how's that going?
How's he looking? Because he's of course I couldn't fight
last time. He'd be so frustrated, wouldn't he.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Yeah, mkaal, which is good. And we've got a purse,
but which is like an auction on that same fight
next week September the third.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
So we'll know what he's doing. It should be the
same guy.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
We have to do the whole thing over again, So
that's getting worked out now and mea we have an
announcement this week, but I'll tell you we're fighting for
the unifiable title in England October twenty six, which shall all.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Come live this week.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What is what the rise and rise of fight sport
in this country, Isaac? What do you put it down to?
We've got Joe Parker right at the top, and the heavyweights.
You look right across city kickboxing. What's happening there with
mixed martial art of course, Jerome and Calevitch. The list
goes on. It's really surging. What do you put that
down to? Why are we suddenly so good and so
interested in this sport?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Are there's some people in the sport that have given
you guys some direction to do it? Man, We've we've
got a country of athletes. I think it's always been
like that, whatever, and put their mind to that good
out right.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
We've got to rugby, We're going at rowing, we're good.
We've got all sorts of sports.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
So we put our mind to a bit of fighting,
we're good at that too. So I think we've got
a pretty amazing country and quite a lot of ability
down here.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I think that's the truth of it.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
I think if you look over all sports New Zealander
populations probably the best in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Isak Peace joining the program?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
What about access on on TV or online? People have
got access to it now, so they're really starting to
buy in because they can actually see it whenever they want.
That's got to be a contributing factor surely the fan
base and the potential to make some coin too.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't know, Man, to be honest with you, it's hard.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
I think the biggest litdown in New Zealander is we
don't fill stadiums. You go out of the place in
the world and everyone gets behind it. In New Zealand
it's quiet. We've got the ability of the fighters and
the athletes, but trying to get people along to support
your fighters and sponship and that's really hard. And if
we can get if we can improve on that, it
would make life a whole lot easier. Look, look, TV
doesn't get behind us, Man Skouy's not even putting beside.
(10:04):
It's disgusting. Do I have scot I TV putting on
a little eliminated for one of our young athletes.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
It's just I'm speechless.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
We're going to be having to get people to try
and find streams and all sorts of rubbish.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Just try and get it. It's a joke.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
We need sky TV following our sports. They're our sports provider.
Why the hell are we not on it?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
What do you think people enjoy watching it? What's the
attraction with fight sport or boxing at at any weight level.
What's the attraction the.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Attraction fights for someone can get hurt.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
It sounds silly, but it's got that X factor, right,
It's not a game of tennis. When you lose it,
it's dangerous. It's got all those all those X factors
that people like. I mean, it's human nature's right. Back
in the day, I've always liked watching violent throat, so
I think it's that.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
But it's controlled violence.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
And I think it's always been something people want.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I hope people need to come and follow it.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
People need to come and follow all these good fight
nights or they aren't following it like they need to.
They need to buy a ticket, they need to put
bumps on seats, and it helps get these guys to
the top level and the next generation too.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Ever, reading something once someone said, you don't play boxing,
that's the nature of boxing and not messing around here,
and I get that as well. Hey, what about power
slap Dana White's new invention? Have you have you seen that?
Do you think that's got any any traction to be
made over here? Because I think it's only in Nevada
you're actually allowed to do it because it's so brutal.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Is that the slapping on the faces?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's the one where they basically stand there?
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Obviously, I think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
in my life. When we heard your braindos and that's
the most dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
It not even a sport. What are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think it's brutal and it's done, and you're gonna
have a whole lot of kids doing it at school,
and I think it's dangerous.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
And one second time for that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Grip and I agree completely it's insane. And on that
we'll let you get on with your preparation. Hey, wish
Jern the best of luck from all of us here
at news Talk ZB and hopefully we can take it
to gaze at it somehow of an evening. Isaac Peach,
thanks for your time, my friend.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
No worries man well we've went from New zeal And tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Forget the riffs call you make the call sports Talk
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Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's Isaac Peach there. He is the coach of Jerome
Pampalona fighting tonight. Ib IF light heavyweight title eliminated about
lost the last one. Didn't see that coming. Lucky enough
to see Jerome fight in the flesh a couple of
times is a pretty impressive character. Plumber in a spare time.
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Hopefully a couple more fights. I won't be doing that anymore,
be beating people up for a living. So up tonight
to watch that. So is a wider question around combat sports.
I don't think it's my imagination. I don't think it's
because I have a tendency toward it and always have
since I was a young fella. But the interest in
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combat sport has it been increasing over the years, and
has it been increasing because more and more young New
Zealand are engaging at it at a physical level that
we're actually not playing Mama, because you don't play mema,
you fight. You knowhing play about getting punched in their head. Right,
But when you look at the success of David Tour
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earlier on a shame he couldn't do it against the
vander Holyfield, but so be it. You look at Kevin
Barry back in the day at the Olympic Games, and
then you move on to Joe Parker and the success
he has said. Now you've got David Nieker on the
way up, Jerome Pampo alone, You've got the Russian Mikhaylovitch
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who looks like he's on his way. Then you look
to the City Kickboxing Gym. All of their athletes have
done well in the EMA UFC Ultimate Fighting Competition. Of
course most people think UFC when they think EMMA. It's
a lot of people involved. You've got me and what
the Luddy Daniels and what they've done as well for
the Wahena. In boxing? Is it not itself up?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Why has it been?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I suppose had more interest because I feel that it has.
I feel from what I see in this industry and
from whom I talk to that more and more people
I thinking MMA and boxing are legitimate sports that deserve
the respect of the wider public. Is that you will
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you go on to power slap ladder on because that's obscene.
We might talk about that later on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Of the piece.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But with fight sports and combat sports, the interest is rising,
it's becoming more and more popular. Is that you have
you been taken to the dark side?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And why is it?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What do you think it is about that game? Funny
you call it the fight game? Is it's far from it?
That is engaging so many people. Look, I might be
completely wrong, be wrong before, be wrong again, But you
really feel like a groundswell. And is that because I've
had success at the high level with Joe Parker? Is
it because it's easily accessible? I there are fight cards
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on all the time with the UFC, Dana White drags together.
He makes great fights and he makes them constantly, so
it's not this endless marking around with the various alphabet
suit of boxing commissions. Now, of course we've got our
lovely friends of Saudi Arabians turning up. They just pour
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as much money as they can as possible, so there's
no holding back when it comes to making fights because
everyone wants a bit of a coin, so they climb in.
So oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Why combat sport
becoming so popular? Are runks and I have to save
the younger generation and sports fans in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Is that you you.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Climbed on board? Why are you doing it? What's bringing
you to the party. Of course, there's a lot of
people out there as well who can't stand it. They
call it prison violence and don't understand why people would
watch that and call it sport. You may be in
that corner, in the red corner.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Come and meet me in the middle. We'll trade some dukes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
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Bent twenty six says sports take care on that news
talk is z de b looking at combat sports throwing
our pampalone fighting tonight, get this one done and there's
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a chance or he should fight for a heavyweight title
IBF lightweight title or one of many boxes on the
way up, many martial artists on the way up. A
lot of New Zealanders are buying into this. Why have
you and why or are you still walking away going
I can't do this, it's not me geto Fraser? How
are you?
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Yeah? Could that?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Mate?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know it's so bad, just you know, rocking back
in my chair, drinking coffee, talking smack with people about sport.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
Brilliant finally talking about a really good sport too.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
What one?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
There are so many in combat sports? Is there anything
particular that tackles your fancy boxing?
Speaker 9 (18:02):
But they will. I enjoy them all, But I like
the box one and I watch a bit of the
UFC and it's like you say, it's really really well,
it's huge.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What is it about boxing? What a track to do it?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Fraser?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Oh? I just did a little bit when I was younger,
but you know, growing up in the late nineties. Mike Tyson,
I mean, what more do you need to say?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Is there something particularly about it?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Though?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The Is it just the nature of the fact that
it's minor? We manor when it's very base, it's a
base psychology around humans that like hitting each other.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I don't know. In my case, I think like you
grow up in a generation in particular, and there's a
lot of family members that have been involved. I think,
you know, like if you've got a grandfather from the fifties,
they pretty much all did it. So maybe it's just
a bit more old school in that sense. That's why
I liked it. But I like the tradition with the boxing,
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and I can tell you it's it is getting more
popular because there's sense to be a lot more gyms
and a lot more young kids participating now than there
was when I was a thirteen, twelve, thirteen year old.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Is it competing with more traditional sports? Do you think
when it comes to grasping grabbing the attention of the populace.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
In this country. No, I think it's just surviving as
a thing. But there are it is quite well represented
by the kids, and like it's quite popular for kids
from thirteen to sort of sixteen seventeen. On the time
you get to seventeen and you're still doing it. It's
quite a serious sport where you're training a lot, and
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there's other distractions that consider. Take the forefront, for instance,
if you're working it's always pretty hard to train five
days a week, but it's quite well represented at the
younger levels.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And I just I've got to ask you about this
because we touched on it with Isaac Peatch.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Have you seen power Slap?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
I was. I watch it. I'll watch it from time
to time. Not really into it, to be honest, but
it's hard not to watch it. But I don't know
that it'll stick around. Are they're going to be a
flesh in the pantsing personally? But you never know. People
have said that about the UFC.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean the things about UFC Phraser and thanks very
much for calling up. Is it there's defense in it?
I mean power slately just lose a toss. You sit
there and some im going ham is it? I just don't.
I can't see any good coming out of it. I really,
I mean maybe one off you laugh and go you
guys are insane or girls are insane. But once you've
seen it a couple of nights, it's quite sickening.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
It gets a bit boring. I reckon and and and
it's like, yeah, I don't know, it's I can't say
that I don't find it compelling when someone standing there
and they take a slap to the face and they
fall over. It's you know, it's hard not to be
interested in it on a certain level. But like I said,
is it It doesn't seem that much to it, and.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
There's no art to it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is the phraser, that's it. There's nothing clever about it. Well,
defend yourselves at all times you can't. There's nothing subtle
about it. What Floyd maywear, they arguably one of the greats,
so good because you couldn't hit them. It's all about
not getting punched.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
There's not a lot of deception. I think would be
the word I would use, like there'd be subtle teas
and they'd be technique and all that. But what I
like about boxing is the deception and the missing and
the counter attacking and just the different styles. It doesn't
really seem like there's a how to it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
But I doubt if there's any subtleties phraser, I'd be
amazed if there is any subjeeds to stand in there
and getting If you don't know what we're talking about.
Power slaps event where consenting adults stand opposite each other
and slap each other in the face. They trade blows
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you lose a toss and you get to take the
first blow and they slap me so hard with an
open hand, and you're that mound of venus, that great
big soft bird under your thumb. Hit you're so hard
knocks people out. It's quite revolting watching it for a time.
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He's like, wow, is this actually happening? And you can't
you can't help but have we look at it? But
how it gains tractions beyond me because there's no art
to it. It's oddly because when I first saw Emma,
I thought, what about this as any art in this?
It just seems like random violence. I think they cleaned
(22:42):
it up a wee bit pretty no holds barred back
in the day. But now it very much is an
industry and a fight game that used a number of
different martial arts. It's very disciplined, very controlled, and you
can see how fighters work, how they defend it. It
works a treatment. I don't think I'll be turning to
(23:03):
power slap it somehow. And I think the other interesting
thing around this, I've got some texts as well.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I read them shortly.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Love to Hear You Calls eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Freevo number Nation. Why I'd give us a call or.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You can at text nineteen nine to two.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That is z B z B with all of the
information around that you cannot avoid if you're sports fans.
Around the dangers of concussion, rugby, in rugby, lea, in
a number of sports. We're very, very concerned. And I
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know a lot of this is based around micro concussions
and all of the ones you get in training. It it
odd that it's lifting in popularity and as Fraser pointed out,
more gyms popping out, more kids being involved, when really
it's just asking for head injuries, isn't it. And maybe
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that's the one thing I find difficult about being a fan. Look,
it's not my choice, it's a free choice. You're not
going to do that, go for it. I was going
to say, knock yourself out, stupid phrase, but I used
it anyway. But in the current zeitgeist, it does seem
odd that people are doing that. But there's something about
the nature of fight sport that attracts people to it.
It's such a base level exchange. It seventy thirty three.
(24:24):
Let's say run into a couple of texts. Now, not
only this I'm buying into even though you don't talk
about it, but I think you should be.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
And I think you know my.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Love of traditional sports stars. But I'm loving the w NRL,
especially following our black funds changing codes. See one game
I've seen much more far Apartment Cup Mike Wrights. I
believe fighting is in our ancient DNA, and it appeals
to our survival instincts when you're stripped back to nothing.
(24:57):
It's the fight or flight thing, right. The one hundred
meters champion in the Olympic Games, great title, the heavyweight
boxing champion, great title. Why because they based themsel I
was onto human philosophies fight or flight. It's about as
raw as you can get, Like punch me in the face.
I'm just going to run away as fast as i can.
Sports based around right my five cents writes. Another is
(25:20):
that sport built around physical combat is growing in popularity
as a substitute for the physical combat that was part
of society for millennia. We mostly have no war to
fight now, but the primal fascination with physical dominance lives on.
I bet fight sports aren't fishing in Ukraine and Garz
et cetera, where they actually have the real deal. Kerry,
(25:43):
thanks very much for that text. How about this one
combat sport is a reflection of how the dog eat
dog society is getting worse during sorry due to greed.
Anymore on that, I'd like to hear from here. Rise
in popularity is it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Is there a reason why.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Maybe you just roundly rejected and say over idea body,
I'm engaging in anything like that.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It's feral, It's got a big fan base though it's.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
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You see it on Paralympic Chift, the mission that joins
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and you're forgiven if you don't watch it forgetting your
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Bay now in the middle of Canterbury Storm Week in
the NPC thirteen ten worth seven.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Minutes to go in the first half.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Something about combat sport is that a lot of people
actually haven't have they They don't mind watching it and
take a look at it, but it's one of those
sports you used to do that when I was a kid.
Is that kind of next leven? I think also with
the sport the athletes themselves, even though there is a
lot of half and half and blow your house down,
(27:46):
and we've got the stair ofs and the media conference
at the start where they insult each other and so
on and so forth, as personality is concerned, they appear
to bring more to the exchange of themselves than of athletes.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's like their.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Chains have been undone and they can go at it.
And I know the language is pretty rich, but I
think most of us understand foul language, and we're all right,
thisesn't really doesn't bother me anyway, straight out of my head.
You should hear me when the mic goes off. But
you feel like you're dealing with real people.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You don't feel like you're dealing with with cutout characters
like you do with a lot of major sports, because
they are so conditioned to say the right thing at
the right time, to not upset any sponsors, to not
upset any TV networks, do not upset anybody present. Your sport,
(28:56):
which of course is bigger than you, and sports are
bigger than the athletes, but in next martial arts and
in boxing, the character behind the fighter is immense. I
think that is capitalized on, that is pushed, and that
drags more people in. They get those wonderful sound bites,
(29:21):
they get the short shots, and it's inviting to them.
I also think as well, with an increase in youth
involved in this sport, they want to fight away from
sports of their parents.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They're not interested.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
There's something about the anti establishment nature of fighting and
the talent that is involved. They're very much into flicking
the bird at everybody in anything at huge rebellion, they
have a go back again and fight the power. And
(29:59):
maybe that's a big part of why people are buying
into this. Because everything is so structured in this day
age or told to do this, behave like that, da
and people don't see that as being real. I think
that fighting maybe goes the other way and a lot
of it's put on, but they don't feel controlled, they
(30:19):
don't feel chained or stapled down by anybody.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
They're free to be them.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I think that's got to be a lot of the
appeal of combat sport. And there's something about watching someone
get knocked out and I still don't know what that
is and I still can't describe it.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Wow, loving your programmer, Wright, So one of the listeners,
thanks very much for that. It's me and that a
masterton good topic. I reckon that mema is popular because
some people like fighting, women and men. They get a buzz,
they stay fit, they beat their chest and they don't
end up in court or in jail. Well it's a
really good focus, isn't it. And I know that a
(30:57):
lot of young boxes come from streets, they come from
rough parts, and they can crystallize what they do and
in an environment that's not going to land them in jail,
and it does provide discipline and structure to them. Then
they can focus their inherent rage someway positive.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
This text rights.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We're obviously not as evolved, as we like to think,
we're still very basic and primitive. Well we are. We
we eat, we fight, we make babies. I mean, there's
not a lot more. It's not changed much since when
we're living in caves. Really, our fires got slightly easy
to access, and the wheel is a bit quicker than
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it was previously. But we're still a bunch of hair
in the anethols.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Still, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Really, that's the bottom line it is. Seven forty four
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Paralympics up and underway a couple of weeks after the
finish of the main game the Olympic Games, same venues
in Paris.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I expect they'll have.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
A rather large and elaborate opening ceremony. Do not that
I'll watch it, but that's my right to not and
to put it because it's sport, it's not theater. But anyway,
enough of that already, let's focus on the sport itself.
And we welcome to the program out of Paris as well,
And thank you very much Railing for this. Rayleing Baits
(32:34):
that She is the Chief to Mission of the New
Zealand Paralympic Program. She joins us, now she's all on railing.
You're all ready to go, are you?
Speaker 10 (32:43):
Thank you? And good morning Darcy. Hello from a very lovely,
beautiful day in Paris. And yes, it's all go here
and the village teams are rolling in, lots of people circulating.
Everything's set up for our QV team and we're just
about right on ready to go for competition.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now, expectations is this how you run this? Do you
look at a holiday? I hate the term, but I'll
use it anyway. KPI is what do you guys need
to actually produce to say this has been a successful games?
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Oh well, at the end of the day, getting everybody
home safely is a successful games. But yeah, no, I
mean it's about the athletes. I meant Pinnacle events are
so unpredictable and all that we're wishing is for our
athletes to achieve it. You know, if they can achieve
a PB at a Pinnacle event, that is absolutely amazing
because you know it's the best in the world. It's
(33:34):
it's a pressure cocker situation and you know, things happen.
You know, somebody can produce a PB and not gain
a medal, but that's still equally a fantastic performance because
they couldn't have done any better. But equally, somebody can
not have a PB and get a medal. So you know,
it just it just all depends on the day, it
(33:55):
depends on the schedule. But realistically, somebody makes a final,
they make the top eight, it's a clean canvas and
you know it's anybody's game really.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Now, they are similar instructions re selection around the Paralympians
as they are around the Olympians. I we expect you
to get this and that's why we're picking you. Are
they that structured at all or not? Roly, Oh no,
we are.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
A selection criteria is a selection criteria for a reason.
You know, selection criteria standards are set generally by the
governing organization, so they give you their indication of what
that is. Then the NSOs they didn't have their nomination criteria,
which then goes to you know.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The the relevant.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Paramphitsu Zealand for their selections. So it's a very structured process.
It's as you also negotiate negotiated process with the organizations.
There's a lot of collaboration, but Ultimately, you know, the
the underlying minimum standard for somebody to be at any
of these events is actually set by the World Federal
the relevant sports world organizations, So for athletes will their
(34:58):
World Power Athletics. So it's something that's typically h it's
a straightforward process. It is you know if this happens,
that happens, that that that happens, that happens.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It's structured.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
It's very structured and easily to read.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
In aligned routing.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Bates joined a SEFT mission for them. He said, on
Paralympic Team twenty five strong side eleven debutants, you must
be able to feel the energy around them. You often
speak to Olympians and tell you been to one, you
really don't know what to expect. So I expect that
eleven will be not on teen to hooks, but a
little edgy, if for one of.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
A better word.
Speaker 10 (35:39):
Oh, there's a sense of excitement and actually a sense
of calmness amongst our team. I think the environment that's
been created by the support team has enabled the ATHLETs
to come in and feel relaxed, feel at ease, and
more importantly, feel at home and feel like they've got
a wide of far hour around them, which is certainly
the vibe that we've been getting there. As I said,
(36:01):
a sense of calmness.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
For the deputants to be able to make some mingle
with those well seasoned athletes is amazing. They can learn
off them, they can share their stories, they can pick
up tips.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
It's also about some of the athletes that were in Tokyo.
This games is a completely different games from a village
perspective through Tokyo, whereby we had so many rules and
regulations around. We went allowed to interact with other people,
we went allowed to mix and mingle, we went, allowed
to catch up with friends. So for those athletes that
(36:39):
actually went to Tokyo, this is like a new experience for
them as well. Obviously they have the competition experience, but
from a village experience, this is like a brand new
games as well for them. So it's really exciting. We've
got some very seasoned campaigners in this team, so well
established athletes, current world record holders, current world champions, current
Paralympic medalists, all returning, so they're sharing their knowledge and
(37:02):
expertise and actually am messing themselves as mentors amongst the
other athletes as well.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
There are some veterans I use that word carefully that
have been around for a number of games. They happy
to carry the weight of understanding and helping them out
planning from what you said they are, But is an
expectation around them because of the amount of time they're spent.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I don't know that it's an expectation. I think it's
something that just evolves, because you know, if you can
build a culture that people are happy and they can't it,
it just happens. It's not forced, it it just evolves,
and it's quite organic, and that you just see these
(37:43):
relationships building, You see the sharing, you see the confidence growing,
so and that just comes from giving people space, giving
them a safe place to be able to just sit
and chat and ask questions and things like that. So
it's nothing forced, it's nothing structured. It just as I said,
(38:04):
evolves amongst a team that's happy.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And how big do you support crew? Twenty five athletes?
Who else is over there? Because you've got coaches, logistics,
the whole lot. How big is this team? Really?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (38:15):
No, it's great because again you're unlike Tokyo when family
and friends couldn't travel, So there's a lot of family
and friends here. A lot of athletes have got friends
who have been based in Europe and are coming over
to watch them compete, for instance, a lot of family
and friends from home. Great to see the support of
High Performance Sport MUSEUALM with Steve Chu being here. The
(38:37):
Minister of Sport is going to be here for a
few days. It's amazing. The support that we've had from
you Atilrow, New Zealand and the wider community, not just
the sporting community, has been fantastic and this team absolutely
embraces that. They really relish the support and that they're
getting from not just back home, but Kiwi's right throughout
(38:59):
the world.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Comprehensive coverage on TV and C plus. Get amongst and
watch it. I've been see many tomorrow from six o'clock
running baits. Thanks for MS for your time, Wishing all
of the athletes, all of the support crew the best
from here at News Talks AB you travel safe and
go well.
Speaker 10 (39:13):
Thank you so much, Darcy. We'll do our best.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
You no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
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I thought i'd get more people calling or talking about this,
so I'm victim from Huntley. Make this so much deadly
violence in our community, these days of people getting killed
every week all over in his zeal And. Personally, I'm totally.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Against violent sport.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It is just wrong. I'm sure there's a lot of
people out there who think exactly the same thing. This
news talks hereb it is eight minutes away from eight.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
We were.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
There's a.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Five minutes to eight. Lia mcdonal'stow is interesting today, wasn't it.
You want to find out more about my thoughts on that?
By all means The Fixed podcast, where all your good
podcasts are lurking. You can find it there Subscribe comes
out Monday through Friday. It's called Sports Fixed. Myself and
(40:50):
or Jason Pine fully all over it.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I spoke about that, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I don't know what to make of this story. We
know that, according to multiple sources, as The Herald says,
he is getting up to half his contract paid out
for a sentially doing well, not a great deal, not
not even half a season of all black action. Some
irreparable damage between himself and Scott Robertson means he walked
(41:21):
from the job. And if you believe what's written and
what said, he walks away with half of his contract
being paid out. Now, now we don't know if Leon
McDonald got shown the door or he opened the door
himself and ran away. If the bloke quit, it's quite
strange you get half his contract paid out if he's sacked.
(41:45):
You kind of understand why. But the problem with this
is we don't know the details of the contract. We
don't know what he wrote, what he signed, and what
he stood to gain or to lose. I don't think
for a second he ran away going he had in
my contract.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
He doesn't strike me as that kind of character.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
But I think.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Broad when you look at the story, insurid I don't
have a lot of money. Something else happened. I know
I said this last week. I can't put my finger
on it. It's something else we don't know about. I
don't know what it is. But otherwise the coach up
(42:28):
and goes or gets thrown out and we don't hear
from them like nothing. Still strikes me as unusual, strange,
it's not right. And now he's walking away with a
big paycheck. Well, I want his agent to sort my
contract with this place. Thank you very much. I'm in
Andy Duff. Thanks for producing, Thanks for your call, Thanks
(42:49):
for your telling us autograph sing.
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
We talk sport from now through until eight o'clock tonight.
When I say we, I mean myself you Railean Bates,
New Zealand, the Paralympic Chief. The mission of course the
Paralympic Skid underway at New Zealand times six o'clock tomorrow
morning with the opening ceremony, and we're gonna hit the
ground up running with the head trainer at Peach Boxing Gym.
His name is Isazac Peach. Jerome Pampalone has an IBF
(01:18):
Light Heavyweight world title eliminator fight tonight in Sydney. Yet
another KIWI doing well in combat sports, and we're gonna
pull that apart as we take your calls on eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Where the strength has come from,
why the support is there, and indeed if you have
actually brought in to combat sports here in New Zealand,
(01:42):
with the success upon success.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Of a number of our athletes.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
That's our thoughts are one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
That's that I'm gonna call it. In text nineteen ninety
two it is z b ZB. But now this sport
today and in sports today, favorites US at home a
Dallas Boch reigning world champions US favorites certainly not, says
coach in supreme troll Rasci Rasmus.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, if we if we don't respect him, and we'll
be bad coaches, we'll be super players, will be at
agant nation will be well, we could we put back
in our place to US.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
US tennis player on me, Osaka is good with open
displays of emotion. She water worked after belting tense seed
that Yelena Ostapenko six ' three six two at a
venue where she is welled up at before Satchmo's court.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
You know, I would say yes, And it was probably
on the same exact court, so maybe it's that court
that does something to me. It's funny, though, I feel
like I cried a lot more now than I did
like winning Slam, so that's a little funny.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And I say Saxmo's court at Louis Armstrong's court because
his name was satchel Mouth. That was his nickname. Apparently
when he was busking, used to pick the coins up
as a kid and put them in his mouth so
other kids wouldn't steal it, so satchel Mouth, hence Satchmo.
The things you find out Alea McDonald's bird flip, either
to hymn or from it has meant a coaching shuffle
on the All Blacks. It'scott Hansen picked the attack straw.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
No stress there, We've adjusted, we're working on it. It's
been a good day today and the boys.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Have been really good.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
We've got key drivers that drive there, so they've been
really supportive of what we're doing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
And number three players, number one hundred and eighty six
at the US Open, Carlos Alcareve has heaped praise on
the Aussie outside of lou T after besting him in
four six. TV and Z plus caught this comment from
the Iberian great player.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
I wish your price say so once again, but I'm
gonna follow. I'm gonna follow here he results from now
because I'm pretty sure that if he's playing at this level,
I'm gonna sit here around anybody.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
So what Scott today?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Huge night and combat sports tonight boxing, particularly in the
squared circle. We're joined now by Isaac Peach, of course,
the trainer behind a man who is close to a
world title fight. Jerome Pampalone is our man tonight he
takes on Connor Wallace in a world title eliminator. Isaac,
welcome to the program. First up, just describe the energy
(04:18):
and darling harbor leading up to a fight like that.
What's it like, palpable.
Speaker 8 (04:22):
I'm presuming today's pretty quiet because it's kind of come
before the storm. But the last few days been pretty busy.
It's a full house here and it's a bog fight, man.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Huge fight. So in the lead up, so today's pretty quiet.
You need a bit of time to breathe. And I
suppose master your thoughts. Is that standard in the fight game?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
You have that calm?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Is you always like that?
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Man? Usually a couple of days before everyone's spelting around
and everyone's excited and voiceous, and then day of the
fight it's quite quiet. Everyone's kind of kidching themselves and
then we get in there and before.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Right, So what's Jerome been specifically, what he'd been working
on with him in the Leader after what happened last
time around is O went he had that that loss
that up against Mullegs Zanard, So what have you been
focusing on? Do you look back much to that exchange?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Isaac?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Yeah, Look, we've got our best to pick up our game.
I mean, we've tried to better ourselves in all areas.
We didn't really step up last time. We only just
lost a world class guy, but it wasn't good enough.
And we've worked on all the one percenters just to
get over the line.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
And this time. You always say it with your guy,
but I really.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
Feel drones in his beds and I'm bloody excited for tonight.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
And we've worked really hard. We've had a great camp.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Looking back to that fight and that loss, you say
the one percent is what particularly? Was it work inside?
Was it outside? Was controlling the fight? Was it getting
in the corner, staying in the middle of mean, what
did you actually look like? What did you look at?
But that particular fight where you think one of those
one percent didn't quite hit the.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Mark Wells a few things.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
Man, we hit the Mulligs and abol shot field and
killed a guy and he smilered us. So it as
all as popping out of his heads. We've got some
queries on what was going on regarding drugs that night.
If you go rewatch the fight, you see what I mean.
But also he had a good game plan. They had
a good, good game plan. They keep us away, they
keep us on the end of the jab. Jerome got
staying with a few shots that heard him and got
(06:14):
him bit of a glaze.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
And we couldn't quite couldn't quite get there.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
In this game, when you get to the to the
top level, if you're not quite.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
There, you're not going to win.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
So we put a lot out of it. We got
twelve hard rounds and Drome's a been quite impore it.
We're not going to make those mistakes, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Hey go back to what you said about the drug accusation.
Have you gone any further with that? Well, what's the grounding,
what's the basis on that, what's being done?
Speaker 8 (06:36):
Just the rum and all that was going around where
we were, But I mean, we can't control that.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
These guys dot paper coreat just so no, we're happy
that you.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Got through now. Connor Wallace described the man in the
other corner. What does he got what thirteen and one?
So plainly he's got whiskers, he can take a shot.
What else do you know about him?
Speaker 6 (06:52):
Oh, it's good, he's Irish. He's a really good self forum.
He's all good.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Self for He's had a lot of amateur fights.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
He's the top right everyweight beside the world.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
We think Dromers and it's a world class pipe manders.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Why it's for a world title. So look, we know
what we're up against.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
But I think Jerome's slide heavyweight honest day in the world.
And I need to get the best drone to win
this fight, and I think I've got it right now.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
We're talking with Isaac Peach out of the Peach Boxing gym.
As far as the crowd goes a lot of people
there and I'm presuming most of them will be barracking
for Jerome, being that he's you know, he's an Anzac,
He's from the Southern heman's feet well, he represents the
Southern fear even though it's a north Port.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
The guy who lives in Australia, he's got a big
Irish support.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
No one wants us to win. On to go and
from as well, so we've been treated like shit, to.
Speaker 8 (07:38):
Be honest with you, So we're going to go shove
up everything year and we're really motivated and we've got no.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
Time for anyone in the super country. We're coming to
rob it in their face. And it's what kind of
crew have you got to be?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
You've got a big posse that's over there helping out yourself,
your trainers the like, as well other entourage there, Isaac.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
No, we don't do that way. We roll alone. Cows
rolling groups, we roll alone. We've got me Jerome, my brother.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Usually here, but he's actually had an operation, so it's
me Jerome and my wife and.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
We've got a doctor, doctor Sam here to do the cats.
That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
What else is happening in the gym? Mikaylevitch, how's that going?
How's he looking? Because he's of course I couldn't fight
last time. He'd be so frustrated, wouldn't he.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Yeah, mkaal, which is good. And we've got a purse,
but which is like an auction on that same fight
next week September the third.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
So we'll know what he's doing. It should be the
same guy.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
We have to do the whole thing over again, So
that's getting worked out now and mea we have an
announcement this week, but I'll tell you we're fighting for
the unifiable title in England October twenty six, which shall all.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Come live this week.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
What is what the rise and rise of fight sport
in this country, Isaac? What do you put it down to?
We've got Joe Parker right at the top, and the heavyweights.
You look right across city kickboxing. What's happening there with
mixed martial art of course, Jerome and Calevitch. The list
goes on. It's really surging. What do you put that
down to? Why are we suddenly so good and so
interested in this sport?
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Are there's some people in the sport that have given
you guys some direction to do it? Man, We've we've
got a country of athletes. I think it's always been
like that, whatever, and put their mind to that good
out right.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
We've got to rugby, We're going at rowing, we're good.
We've got all sorts of sports.
Speaker 8 (09:11):
So we put our mind to a bit of fighting,
we're good at that too. So I think we've got
a pretty amazing country and quite a lot of ability
down here.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
I think that's the truth of it.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
I think if you look over all sports New Zealander
populations probably the best in the world.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Isak Peace joining the program?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
What about access on on TV or online? People have
got access to it now, so they're really starting to
buy in because they can actually see it whenever they want.
That's got to be a contributing factor surely the fan
base and the potential to make some coin too.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
I don't know, Man, to be honest with you, it's hard.
Speaker 8 (09:44):
I think the biggest litdown in New Zealander is we
don't fill stadiums. You go out of the place in
the world and everyone gets behind it. In New Zealand
it's quiet. We've got the ability of the fighters and
the athletes, but trying to get people along to support
your fighters and sponship and that's really hard. And if
we can get if we can improve on that, it
would make life a whole lot easier. Look, look, TV
doesn't get behind us, Man Skouy's not even putting beside.
(10:04):
It's disgusting. Do I have scot I TV putting on
a little eliminated for one of our young athletes.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
It's just I'm speechless.
Speaker 8 (10:12):
We're going to be having to get people to try
and find streams and all sorts of rubbish.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Just try and get it. It's a joke.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
We need sky TV following our sports. They're our sports provider.
Why the hell are we not on it?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
What do you think people enjoy watching it? What's the
attraction with fight sport or boxing at at any weight level.
What's the attraction the.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Attraction fights for someone can get hurt.
Speaker 8 (10:34):
It sounds silly, but it's got that X factor, right,
It's not a game of tennis. When you lose it,
it's dangerous. It's got all those all those X factors
that people like. I mean, it's human nature's right. Back
in the day, I've always liked watching violent throat, so
I think it's that.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
But it's controlled violence.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
And I think it's always been something people want.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
I hope people need to come and follow it.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
People need to come and follow all these good fight
nights or they aren't following it like they need to.
They need to buy a ticket, they need to put
bumps on seats, and it helps get these guys to
the top level and the next generation too.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Ever, reading something once someone said, you don't play boxing,
that's the nature of boxing and not messing around here,
and I get that as well. Hey, what about power
slap Dana White's new invention? Have you have you seen that?
Do you think that's got any any traction to be
made over here? Because I think it's only in Nevada
you're actually allowed to do it because it's so brutal.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Is that the slapping on the faces?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That's the one where they basically stand there?
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Obviously, I think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
in my life. When we heard your braindos and that's
the most dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (11:35):
It not even a sport. What are you going to do?
Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think it's brutal and it's done, and you're gonna
have a whole lot of kids doing it at school,
and I think it's dangerous.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
And one second time for that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Grip and I agree completely it's insane. And on that
we'll let you get on with your preparation. Hey, wish
Jern the best of luck from all of us here
at news Talk ZB and hopefully we can take it
to gaze at it somehow of an evening. Isaac Peach,
thanks for your time, my friend.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
No worries man well we've went from New zeal And tonight.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Forget the riffs call you make the call sports Talk
on your home of sports his Talks.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It's Isaac Peach there. He is the coach of Jerome
Pampalona fighting tonight. Ib IF light heavyweight title eliminated about
lost the last one. Didn't see that coming. Lucky enough
to see Jerome fight in the flesh a couple of
times is a pretty impressive character. Plumber in a spare time.
(12:33):
Hopefully a couple more fights. I won't be doing that anymore,
be beating people up for a living. So up tonight
to watch that. So is a wider question around combat sports.
I don't think it's my imagination. I don't think it's
because I have a tendency toward it and always have
since I was a young fella. But the interest in
(12:58):
combat sport has it been increasing over the years, and
has it been increasing because more and more young New
Zealand are engaging at it at a physical level that
we're actually not playing Mama, because you don't play mema,
you fight. You knowhing play about getting punched in their head. Right,
But when you look at the success of David Tour
(13:21):
earlier on a shame he couldn't do it against the
vander Holyfield, but so be it. You look at Kevin
Barry back in the day at the Olympic Games, and
then you move on to Joe Parker and the success
he has said. Now you've got David Nieker on the
way up, Jerome Pampo alone, You've got the Russian Mikhaylovitch
(13:43):
who looks like he's on his way. Then you look
to the City Kickboxing Gym. All of their athletes have
done well in the EMA UFC Ultimate Fighting Competition. Of
course most people think UFC when they think EMMA. It's
a lot of people involved. You've got me and what
the Luddy Daniels and what they've done as well for
the Wahena. In boxing? Is it not itself up?
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Why has it been?
Speaker 3 (14:09):
I suppose had more interest because I feel that it has.
I feel from what I see in this industry and
from whom I talk to that more and more people
I thinking MMA and boxing are legitimate sports that deserve
the respect of the wider public. Is that you will
(14:33):
you go on to power slap ladder on because that's obscene.
We might talk about that later on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Of the piece.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But with fight sports and combat sports, the interest is rising,
it's becoming more and more popular. Is that you have
you been taken to the dark side?
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And why is it?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
What do you think it is about that game? Funny
you call it the fight game? Is it's far from it?
That is engaging so many people. Look, I might be
completely wrong, be wrong before, be wrong again, But you
really feel like a groundswell. And is that because I've
had success at the high level with Joe Parker? Is
it because it's easily accessible? I there are fight cards
(15:15):
on all the time with the UFC, Dana White drags together.
He makes great fights and he makes them constantly, so
it's not this endless marking around with the various alphabet
suit of boxing commissions. Now, of course we've got our
lovely friends of Saudi Arabians turning up. They just pour
(15:35):
as much money as they can as possible, so there's
no holding back when it comes to making fights because
everyone wants a bit of a coin, so they climb in.
So oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Why combat sport
becoming so popular? Are runks and I have to save
the younger generation and sports fans in New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Is that you you.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Climbed on board? Why are you doing it? What's bringing
you to the party. Of course, there's a lot of
people out there as well who can't stand it. They
call it prison violence and don't understand why people would
watch that and call it sport. You may be in
that corner, in the red corner.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Come and meet me in the middle. We'll trade some dukes.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
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Speaker 3 (16:58):
Bent twenty six says sports take care on that news
talk is z de b looking at combat sports throwing
our pampalone fighting tonight, get this one done and there's
(17:20):
a chance or he should fight for a heavyweight title
IBF lightweight title or one of many boxes on the
way up, many martial artists on the way up. A
lot of New Zealanders are buying into this. Why have
you and why or are you still walking away going
I can't do this, it's not me geto Fraser? How
are you?
Speaker 9 (17:42):
Yeah? Could that?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Mate?
Speaker 9 (17:43):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You know it's so bad, just you know, rocking back
in my chair, drinking coffee, talking smack with people about sport.
Speaker 9 (17:49):
Brilliant finally talking about a really good sport too.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
What one?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
There are so many in combat sports? Is there anything
particular that tackles your fancy boxing?
Speaker 9 (18:02):
But they will. I enjoy them all, But I like
the box one and I watch a bit of the
UFC and it's like you say, it's really really well,
it's huge.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
What is it about boxing? What a track to do it?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Fraser?
Speaker 9 (18:17):
Oh? I just did a little bit when I was younger,
but you know, growing up in the late nineties. Mike Tyson,
I mean, what more do you need to say?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Is there something particularly about it?
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Though?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
The Is it just the nature of the fact that
it's minor? We manor when it's very base, it's a
base psychology around humans that like hitting each other.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I don't know. In my case, I think like you
grow up in a generation in particular, and there's a
lot of family members that have been involved. I think,
you know, like if you've got a grandfather from the fifties,
they pretty much all did it. So maybe it's just
a bit more old school in that sense. That's why
I liked it. But I like the tradition with the boxing,
(19:02):
and I can tell you it's it is getting more
popular because there's sense to be a lot more gyms
and a lot more young kids participating now than there
was when I was a thirteen, twelve, thirteen year old.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Is it competing with more traditional sports? Do you think
when it comes to grasping grabbing the attention of the populace.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
In this country. No, I think it's just surviving as
a thing. But there are it is quite well represented
by the kids, and like it's quite popular for kids
from thirteen to sort of sixteen seventeen. On the time
you get to seventeen and you're still doing it. It's
quite a serious sport where you're training a lot, and
(19:45):
there's other distractions that consider. Take the forefront, for instance,
if you're working it's always pretty hard to train five
days a week, but it's quite well represented at the
younger levels.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And I just I've got to ask you about this
because we touched on it with Isaac Peatch.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Have you seen power Slap?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
I was. I watch it. I'll watch it from time
to time. Not really into it, to be honest, but
it's hard not to watch it. But I don't know
that it'll stick around. Are they're going to be a
flesh in the pantsing personally? But you never know. People
have said that about the UFC.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I mean the things about UFC Phraser and thanks very
much for calling up. Is it there's defense in it?
I mean power slately just lose a toss. You sit
there and some im going ham is it? I just don't.
I can't see any good coming out of it. I really,
I mean maybe one off you laugh and go you
guys are insane or girls are insane. But once you've
seen it a couple of nights, it's quite sickening.
Speaker 9 (20:42):
It gets a bit boring. I reckon and and and
it's like, yeah, I don't know, it's I can't say
that I don't find it compelling when someone standing there
and they take a slap to the face and they
fall over. It's you know, it's hard not to be
interested in it on a certain level. But like I said,
is it It doesn't seem that much to it, and.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
There's no art to it.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Is the phraser, that's it. There's nothing clever about it. Well,
defend yourselves at all times you can't. There's nothing subtle
about it. What Floyd maywear, they arguably one of the greats,
so good because you couldn't hit them. It's all about
not getting punched.
Speaker 9 (21:23):
There's not a lot of deception. I think would be
the word I would use, like there'd be subtle teas
and they'd be technique and all that. But what I
like about boxing is the deception and the missing and
the counter attacking and just the different styles. It doesn't
really seem like there's a how to it.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
But I doubt if there's any subtleties phraser, I'd be
amazed if there is any subjeeds to stand in there
and getting If you don't know what we're talking about.
Power slaps event where consenting adults stand opposite each other
and slap each other in the face. They trade blows
(22:02):
you lose a toss and you get to take the
first blow and they slap me so hard with an
open hand, and you're that mound of venus, that great
big soft bird under your thumb. Hit you're so hard
knocks people out. It's quite revolting watching it for a time.
(22:22):
He's like, wow, is this actually happening? And you can't
you can't help but have we look at it? But
how it gains tractions beyond me because there's no art
to it. It's oddly because when I first saw Emma,
I thought, what about this as any art in this?
It just seems like random violence. I think they cleaned
(22:42):
it up a wee bit pretty no holds barred back
in the day. But now it very much is an
industry and a fight game that used a number of
different martial arts. It's very disciplined, very controlled, and you
can see how fighters work, how they defend it. It
works a treatment. I don't think I'll be turning to
(23:03):
power slap it somehow. And I think the other interesting
thing around this, I've got some texts as well.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I read them shortly.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Love to Hear You Calls eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Freevo number Nation. Why I'd give us a call or.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You can at text nineteen nine to two.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That is z B z B with all of the
information around that you cannot avoid if you're sports fans.
Around the dangers of concussion, rugby, in rugby, lea, in
a number of sports. We're very, very concerned. And I
(23:40):
know a lot of this is based around micro concussions
and all of the ones you get in training. It it
odd that it's lifting in popularity and as Fraser pointed out,
more gyms popping out, more kids being involved, when really
it's just asking for head injuries, isn't it. And maybe
(24:01):
that's the one thing I find difficult about being a fan. Look,
it's not my choice, it's a free choice. You're not
going to do that, go for it. I was going
to say, knock yourself out, stupid phrase, but I used
it anyway. But in the current zeitgeist, it does seem
odd that people are doing that. But there's something about
the nature of fight sport that attracts people to it.
It's such a base level exchange. It seventy thirty three.
(24:24):
Let's say run into a couple of texts. Now, not
only this I'm buying into even though you don't talk
about it, but I think you should be.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
And I think you know my.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Love of traditional sports stars. But I'm loving the w NRL,
especially following our black funds changing codes. See one game
I've seen much more far Apartment Cup Mike Wrights. I
believe fighting is in our ancient DNA, and it appeals
to our survival instincts when you're stripped back to nothing.
(24:57):
It's the fight or flight thing, right. The one hundred
meters champion in the Olympic Games, great title, the heavyweight
boxing champion, great title. Why because they based themsel I
was onto human philosophies fight or flight. It's about as
raw as you can get, Like punch me in the face.
I'm just going to run away as fast as i can.
Sports based around right my five cents writes. Another is
(25:20):
that sport built around physical combat is growing in popularity
as a substitute for the physical combat that was part
of society for millennia. We mostly have no war to
fight now, but the primal fascination with physical dominance lives on.
I bet fight sports aren't fishing in Ukraine and Garz
et cetera, where they actually have the real deal. Kerry,
(25:43):
thanks very much for that text. How about this one
combat sport is a reflection of how the dog eat
dog society is getting worse during sorry due to greed.
Anymore on that, I'd like to hear from here. Rise
in popularity is it?
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Is there a reason why.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Maybe you just roundly rejected and say over idea body,
I'm engaging in anything like that.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It's feral, It's got a big fan base though it's.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Newstalk ZERB Sports Talk twenty five minutes to eight lines
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You see it on Paralympic Chift, the mission that joins
us toward the end of the program that Bigger Than
gets underway Tomorrow Morning TV and Z plus the throw
in the kitchen sink at it. It's the opening ceremony
and you're forgiven if you don't watch it forgetting your
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two weeks back to save you. It's out the cam
child in the twenty one minutes away from eight o'clock
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Wednesday night here on sports took them Darcy water Grades,
thanks for your time on und eighty n A free
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is zed it b z B Cannaby up over Hawk's
Bay now in the middle of Canterbury Storm Week in
the NPC thirteen ten worth seven.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Minutes to go in the first half.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Something about combat sport is that a lot of people
actually haven't have they They don't mind watching it and
take a look at it, but it's one of those
sports you used to do that when I was a kid.
Is that kind of next leven? I think also with
the sport the athletes themselves, even though there is a
lot of half and half and blow your house down,
(27:46):
and we've got the stair ofs and the media conference
at the start where they insult each other and so
on and so forth, as personality is concerned, they appear
to bring more to the exchange of themselves than of athletes.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
It's like their.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Chains have been undone and they can go at it.
And I know the language is pretty rich, but I
think most of us understand foul language, and we're all right,
thisesn't really doesn't bother me anyway, straight out of my head.
You should hear me when the mic goes off. But
you feel like you're dealing with real people.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You don't feel like you're dealing with with cutout characters
like you do with a lot of major sports, because
they are so conditioned to say the right thing at
the right time, to not upset any sponsors, to not
upset any TV networks, do not upset anybody present. Your sport,
(28:56):
which of course is bigger than you, and sports are
bigger than the athletes, but in next martial arts and
in boxing, the character behind the fighter is immense. I
think that is capitalized on, that is pushed, and that
drags more people in. They get those wonderful sound bites,
(29:21):
they get the short shots, and it's inviting to them.
I also think as well, with an increase in youth
involved in this sport, they want to fight away from
sports of their parents.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
They're not interested.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
There's something about the anti establishment nature of fighting and
the talent that is involved. They're very much into flicking
the bird at everybody in anything at huge rebellion, they
have a go back again and fight the power. And
(29:59):
maybe that's a big part of why people are buying
into this. Because everything is so structured in this day
age or told to do this, behave like that, da
and people don't see that as being real. I think
that fighting maybe goes the other way and a lot
of it's put on, but they don't feel controlled, they
(30:19):
don't feel chained or stapled down by anybody.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
They're free to be them.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I think that's got to be a lot of the
appeal of combat sport. And there's something about watching someone
get knocked out and I still don't know what that
is and I still can't describe it.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
It's horrible.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Wow, loving your programmer, Wright, So one of the listeners,
thanks very much for that. It's me and that a
masterton good topic. I reckon that mema is popular because
some people like fighting, women and men. They get a buzz,
they stay fit, they beat their chest and they don't
end up in court or in jail. Well it's a
really good focus, isn't it. And I know that a
(30:57):
lot of young boxes come from streets, they come from
rough parts, and they can crystallize what they do and
in an environment that's not going to land them in jail,
and it does provide discipline and structure to them. Then
they can focus their inherent rage someway positive.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
This text rights.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
We're obviously not as evolved, as we like to think,
we're still very basic and primitive. Well we are. We
we eat, we fight, we make babies. I mean, there's
not a lot more. It's not changed much since when
we're living in caves. Really, our fires got slightly easy
to access, and the wheel is a bit quicker than
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it was previously. But we're still a bunch of hair
in the anethols.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Still, aren't we?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Really, that's the bottom line it is. Seven forty four
is the Sports Talk on newstalks IB.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
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Speaker 3 (32:04):
Paralympics up and underway a couple of weeks after the
finish of the main game the Olympic Games, same venues
in Paris.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
I expect they'll have.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
A rather large and elaborate opening ceremony. Do not that
I'll watch it, but that's my right to not and
to put it because it's sport, it's not theater. But anyway,
enough of that already, let's focus on the sport itself.
And we welcome to the program out of Paris as well,
And thank you very much Railing for this. Rayleing Baits
(32:34):
that She is the Chief to Mission of the New
Zealand Paralympic Program. She joins us, now she's all on railing.
You're all ready to go, are you?
Speaker 10 (32:43):
Thank you? And good morning Darcy. Hello from a very lovely,
beautiful day in Paris. And yes, it's all go here
and the village teams are rolling in, lots of people circulating.
Everything's set up for our QV team and we're just
about right on ready to go for competition.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Now, expectations is this how you run this? Do you
look at a holiday? I hate the term, but I'll
use it anyway. KPI is what do you guys need
to actually produce to say this has been a successful games?
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Oh well, at the end of the day, getting everybody
home safely is a successful games. But yeah, no, I
mean it's about the athletes. I meant Pinnacle events are
so unpredictable and all that we're wishing is for our
athletes to achieve it. You know, if they can achieve
a PB at a Pinnacle event, that is absolutely amazing
because you know it's the best in the world. It's
(33:34):
it's a pressure cocker situation and you know, things happen.
You know, somebody can produce a PB and not gain
a medal, but that's still equally a fantastic performance because
they couldn't have done any better. But equally, somebody can
not have a PB and get a medal. So you know,
it just it just all depends on the day, it
(33:55):
depends on the schedule. But realistically, somebody makes a final,
they make the top eight, it's a clean canvas and
you know it's anybody's game really.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Now, they are similar instructions re selection around the Paralympians
as they are around the Olympians. I we expect you
to get this and that's why we're picking you. Are
they that structured at all or not? Roly, Oh no,
we are.
Speaker 10 (34:16):
A selection criteria is a selection criteria for a reason.
You know, selection criteria standards are set generally by the
governing organization, so they give you their indication of what
that is. Then the NSOs they didn't have their nomination criteria,
which then goes to you know.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
The the relevant.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Paramphitsu Zealand for their selections. So it's a very structured process.
It's as you also negotiate negotiated process with the organizations.
There's a lot of collaboration, but Ultimately, you know, the
the underlying minimum standard for somebody to be at any
of these events is actually set by the World Federal
the relevant sports world organizations, So for athletes will their
(34:58):
World Power Athletics. So it's something that's typically h it's
a straightforward process. It is you know if this happens,
that happens, that that that happens, that happens.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
It's structured.
Speaker 10 (35:14):
It's very structured and easily to read.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
In aligned routing.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Bates joined a SEFT mission for them. He said, on
Paralympic Team twenty five strong side eleven debutants, you must
be able to feel the energy around them. You often
speak to Olympians and tell you been to one, you
really don't know what to expect. So I expect that
eleven will be not on teen to hooks, but a
little edgy, if for one of.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
A better word.
Speaker 10 (35:39):
Oh, there's a sense of excitement and actually a sense
of calmness amongst our team. I think the environment that's
been created by the support team has enabled the ATHLETs
to come in and feel relaxed, feel at ease, and
more importantly, feel at home and feel like they've got
a wide of far hour around them, which is certainly
the vibe that we've been getting there. As I said,
(36:01):
a sense of calmness.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
For the deputants to be able to make some mingle
with those well seasoned athletes is amazing. They can learn
off them, they can share their stories, they can pick
up tips.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
It's also about some of the athletes that were in Tokyo.
This games is a completely different games from a village
perspective through Tokyo, whereby we had so many rules and
regulations around. We went allowed to interact with other people,
we went allowed to mix and mingle, we went, allowed
to catch up with friends. So for those athletes that
(36:39):
actually went to Tokyo, this is like a new experience for
them as well. Obviously they have the competition experience, but
from a village experience, this is like a brand new
games as well for them. So it's really exciting. We've
got some very seasoned campaigners in this team, so well
established athletes, current world record holders, current world champions, current
Paralympic medalists, all returning, so they're sharing their knowledge and
(37:02):
expertise and actually am messing themselves as mentors amongst the
other athletes as well.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
There are some veterans I use that word carefully that
have been around for a number of games. They happy
to carry the weight of understanding and helping them out
planning from what you said they are, But is an
expectation around them because of the amount of time they're spent.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
I don't know that it's an expectation. I think it's
something that just evolves, because you know, if you can
build a culture that people are happy and they can't it,
it just happens. It's not forced, it it just evolves,
and it's quite organic, and that you just see these
(37:43):
relationships building, You see the sharing, you see the confidence growing,
so and that just comes from giving people space, giving
them a safe place to be able to just sit
and chat and ask questions and things like that. So
it's nothing forced, it's nothing structured. It just as I said,
(38:04):
evolves amongst a team that's happy.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And how big do you support crew? Twenty five athletes?
Who else is over there? Because you've got coaches, logistics,
the whole lot. How big is this team? Really?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (38:15):
No, it's great because again you're unlike Tokyo when family
and friends couldn't travel, So there's a lot of family
and friends here. A lot of athletes have got friends
who have been based in Europe and are coming over
to watch them compete, for instance, a lot of family
and friends from home. Great to see the support of
High Performance Sport MUSEUALM with Steve Chu being here. The
(38:37):
Minister of Sport is going to be here for a
few days. It's amazing. The support that we've had from
you Atilrow, New Zealand and the wider community, not just
the sporting community, has been fantastic and this team absolutely
embraces that. They really relish the support and that they're
getting from not just back home, but Kiwi's right throughout
(38:59):
the world.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Comprehensive coverage on TV and C plus. Get amongst and
watch it. I've been see many tomorrow from six o'clock
running baits. Thanks for MS for your time, Wishing all
of the athletes, all of the support crew the best
from here at News Talks AB you travel safe and
go well.
Speaker 10 (39:13):
Thank you so much, Darcy. We'll do our best.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
You no need for the DMO.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk call oh wait
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Speaker 6 (39:22):
Talk zimp.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
It's nine minutes to eight. Markets slash up after the
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(39:49):
I thought i'd get more people calling or talking about this,
so I'm victim from Huntley. Make this so much deadly
violence in our community, these days of people getting killed
every week all over in his zeal And. Personally, I'm totally.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Against violent sport.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It is just wrong. I'm sure there's a lot of
people out there who think exactly the same thing. This
news talks hereb it is eight minutes away from eight.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
We were.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
There's a.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Five minutes to eight. Lia mcdonal'stow is interesting today, wasn't it.
You want to find out more about my thoughts on that?
By all means The Fixed podcast, where all your good
podcasts are lurking. You can find it there Subscribe comes
out Monday through Friday. It's called Sports Fixed. Myself and
(40:50):
or Jason Pine fully all over it.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
I spoke about that, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I don't know what to make of this story. We
know that, according to multiple sources, as The Herald says,
he is getting up to half his contract paid out
for a sentially doing well, not a great deal, not
not even half a season of all black action. Some
irreparable damage between himself and Scott Robertson means he walked
(41:21):
from the job. And if you believe what's written and
what said, he walks away with half of his contract
being paid out. Now, now we don't know if Leon
McDonald got shown the door or he opened the door
himself and ran away. If the bloke quit, it's quite
strange you get half his contract paid out if he's sacked.
(41:45):
You kind of understand why. But the problem with this
is we don't know the details of the contract. We
don't know what he wrote, what he signed, and what
he stood to gain or to lose. I don't think
for a second he ran away going he had in
my contract.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
I'm out.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
He doesn't strike me as that kind of character.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
But I think.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Broad when you look at the story, insurid I don't
have a lot of money. Something else happened. I know
I said this last week. I can't put my finger
on it. It's something else we don't know about. I
don't know what it is. But otherwise the coach up
(42:28):
and goes or gets thrown out and we don't hear
from them like nothing. Still strikes me as unusual, strange,
it's not right. And now he's walking away with a
big paycheck. Well, I want his agent to sort my
contract with this place. Thank you very much. I'm in
Andy Duff. Thanks for producing, Thanks for your call, Thanks
(42:49):
for your telling us autograph sing.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
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