September 4, 2024 • 7 mins
Blackcaps bowling all-rounder Mitch Santner joined D'Arcy Waldegrave to preview their one off fixture against Afghanistan starting Monday night NZT.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be at the airport now Worth, Mitch sent ahead
of a two of the black Caps are up in
action again. It's been a while between drinks. Mitch would
be pretty keen to don the black cab again. Yeah,
and welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, No, it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, I've floating around in some T twenty but it's
nice to be back and I guess of what's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
A good stint of Test cricket and subcontinent.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Great stint, especially for someone like yourself when you look
at the conditions that you've got, Like I don't know
about the heat and the like, but when it comes
to applying your trade, you must be really looking forward
to that.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, it's obviously an exciting time and we've got some
pretty big games coming up, you know, to get some points.
But yeah, it's obviously nice as we've been speaking a
lot as a as a spin unit to what we
can do over there, and I guess there's always that
expectation of trying to get Wi kits, but you know,
it's trying to do play the long game. Boy, your
visball for a long period of time and see what
(01:07):
works on on on a different day, because I guess
it could be could be different in India versus Sri Lanka,
and I guess we're to and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
See that's it. And the ability to to chop and
change when you need be your art will be sorely
tested when it comes to that, And of course there'll
be a reasonable amount of on you are you essentially
leading the spin team?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
May because I'm the oldest. Is that? What is that
what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
No, no, you see that, mate, not me. I will
serve that team. You smash it back and you just
did it to yourself because you're very experienced. How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That sounds a little better.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But yeah, that's it's you know, I think we've got,
you know, five good spin options. You know, everyone is
slightly different, which is always good. I guess we have
a kind of an idea of what what we want
to do over there, and but I guess it's about
you know, playing our game, doing what our strength is
and and I guess over there it's doing it for
a long long period of time. The pitch could change
(02:07):
over the you know, the days, and depending on where
you are what might be the most effective ball And
you know, I think we do that quite well as
a group, is communicating between you know each other and
you know what's working, what's not, and then just doing
it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So with all of you playing, who's got the work
hand as far as who actually gets the nod, you're
not going to roll everybody out at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It no, I think, I guess that's you know, we've
got you know, six six tests and in a short
space of time, and everyone I guess won't play every game.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But it's you know, we've spoke about.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That as a unit is you know, it's getting around
each other, whoever's playing, who's not, you know, adding adding value,
and that's all we want to do as a unit.
And you know, it's as an exciting time for whoever plays,
and you know, good period to really get stuck in
and and see what we can do in those conditions.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now, of course Afghanistan as well, you can't take them lightly,
as we found out in one day internationals that they'll fold,
you won't they. So I think the level is rising
right across the board, which has got to be good
for Test cricket, why why it still survives. Sorry to
be the cynic on that one, but that is a positive, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, it's awesome. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I guess every time we can play new teams and
different conditions is always it's always exciting, and yeah, you know,
it's it's pretty cool for Afghanistan. You know, we've seen
what they can do in white ball cricket and and
you know, looking at there, I guess personnel, we know
they're going to be definitely a threatened red ball and
you know, and conditions that they're pretty similar used to.
So it's not going to be easy. You know, We've
(03:41):
got a few good days of trying to get to
know the conditions leading into I guess our first our
first game, and in some way I don't think anyone's
played before.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So yeah, I think that adapting piece is going to
be massive.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Difficult to walk into a Test match and actually have
no idea what's going to go on because it's such
unfamiliar territory. Does that that it happened a lot? I
don't know how it works at that top level, but
I suppose you'd look at it go We just don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, there's a bit of I guess the unknown and that,
like you said, that's I guess it's a little bit
different for test cricket. You know, you use your scout
and know you know each player inside out and what
each work it's going to do. So yeah, that's but
then I guess we can go back and just think
about ourselves, you know, have a plan what we want
to do as a as a unit, and and go
(04:26):
from there. It's you know, seems is going to play
an important part as well. You know, so it's I
guess it's a collective effort, and you know we speak
about you know, adapting pretty quickly, and White.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wall cricket it's going to be, you know, something similar
and Test cricket.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You know, that's I guess, we don't know what it's
going to play like, and we've got to kind of
true to that way.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Mitchettan and joined. You send a lot of athletes at
the top of the game, at that world level. They
want to play the best, they want to get the
best of the opposition. Rushi Kahn's not there back injury,
he's out. It's kind of disappointing to you that a
guy like that is actually not going to be on
the park.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, I guess you know it's it's it'll be nice,
but you know, on the flip side, it's probably nice
that it's not there for us because we tell how
good it is.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I tried to see you up to see me polite
and nights about it. Come on, match no fair cool?
You mentioned the the World Test Championship before. Is that
something that just sits quietly in the back of your
mind after winning it that first time around? Is that
still relevant to you game by game process, session by
(05:32):
session or is that still the price for you blokes?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, I guess that's kind of the prize at the end.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But you know, we've got a lot of a lot
of time in the dirt before then, and we know that,
you know, it's going to be a challenge that we
don't a thing too far ahead because we we know
if we can do a job and over a long
time and constant, we could flow ourselves in a in
a position.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But yeah, you know, first thing, Sirst, we've got to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, play a pretty good f DOWNI standing side,
and then you see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
A lot of time in the dirt. Was that that
phrase you just used. Is that this new term for
playing test cricket in the dirt?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That's hopefully not too much because that means we're bowling
probably more than we want to.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm running with that. Out of the team that are
over there and much experience. Obviously no one's played on
this particular ground, but experience wise as far as playing
over in the subcontinent, you've got a few crew who
have had some success over there and a couple of
younger guys as well. What kind of advice would you
give them about how to deal with with touring in
the subcontinent because it's not the easiest place to be,
(06:40):
is it. We're talking whether diet, there's a number of considerations.
It can be quite upseting to the young uns.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, that's it can be a challenge, I guess, but
you know, I think that's where you kind of rallied
around each other more and I guess you do have
a lot of downtime because you're not venturing out too much.
But yeah, I think you know, the main thing we
speak about is it can happen very quickly over there,
and we've seen it number of times again, you can
be you know, in the dirt and battling away, and
(07:11):
you know you can get like a bang bang quickly
and the game can change quickly. So it's you know,
it's about staying in the in the game for as
long as you can.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And yeah, Mitch, before we let you go, as Aj
has been wandering around going ten teen from last time around.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I think he's pretty excited to get back to
Mumbai's for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I get that completely. Hey, thanks very much for joining
us much looking forward to seeing your progress in the
dirt and thanks for the new phrase, love your work mate.
That is rich.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
They'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be at the airport now Worth, Mitch sent ahead
of a two of the black Caps are up in
action again. It's been a while between drinks. Mitch would
be pretty keen to don the black cab again. Yeah,
and welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, No, it's going to be exciting.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Yeah, I've floating around in some T twenty but it's
nice to be back and I guess of what's going
to be.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
A good stint of Test cricket and subcontinent.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Great stint, especially for someone like yourself when you look
at the conditions that you've got, Like I don't know
about the heat and the like, but when it comes
to applying your trade, you must be really looking forward
to that.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yeah, it's obviously an exciting time and we've got some
pretty big games coming up, you know, to get some points.
But yeah, it's obviously nice as we've been speaking a
lot as a as a spin unit to what we
can do over there, and I guess there's always that
expectation of trying to get Wi kits, but you know,
it's trying to do play the long game. Boy, your
visball for a long period of time and see what
(01:07):
works on on on a different day, because I guess
it could be could be different in India versus Sri Lanka,
and I guess we're to and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
See that's it. And the ability to to chop and
change when you need be your art will be sorely
tested when it comes to that, And of course there'll
be a reasonable amount of on you are you essentially
leading the spin team?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
May because I'm the oldest. Is that? What is that
what you're thinking?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
No, no, you see that, mate, not me. I will
serve that team. You smash it back and you just
did it to yourself because you're very experienced. How about that?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That sounds a little better.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
But yeah, that's it's you know, I think we've got,
you know, five good spin options. You know, everyone is
slightly different, which is always good. I guess we have
a kind of an idea of what what we want
to do over there, and but I guess it's about
you know, playing our game, doing what our strength is
and and I guess over there it's doing it for
a long long period of time. The pitch could change
(02:07):
over the you know, the days, and depending on where
you are what might be the most effective ball And
you know, I think we do that quite well as
a group, is communicating between you know each other and
you know what's working, what's not, and then just doing
it for a long time.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So with all of you playing, who's got the work
hand as far as who actually gets the nod, you're
not going to roll everybody out at the same time.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It no, I think, I guess that's you know, we've
got you know, six six tests and in a short
space of time, and everyone I guess won't play every game.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But it's you know, we've spoke about.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That as a unit is you know, it's getting around
each other, whoever's playing, who's not, you know, adding adding value,
and that's all we want to do as a unit.
And you know, it's as an exciting time for whoever plays,
and you know, good period to really get stuck in
and and see what we can do in those conditions.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Now, of course Afghanistan as well, you can't take them lightly,
as we found out in one day internationals that they'll fold,
you won't they. So I think the level is rising
right across the board, which has got to be good
for Test cricket, why why it still survives. Sorry to
be the cynic on that one, but that is a positive, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
No, it's awesome. You know.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I guess every time we can play new teams and
different conditions is always it's always exciting, and yeah, you know,
it's it's pretty cool for Afghanistan. You know, we've seen
what they can do in white ball cricket and and
you know, looking at there, I guess personnel, we know
they're going to be definitely a threatened red ball and
you know, and conditions that they're pretty similar used to.
So it's not going to be easy. You know, We've
(03:41):
got a few good days of trying to get to
know the conditions leading into I guess our first our
first game, and in some way I don't think anyone's
played before.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So yeah, I think that adapting piece is going to
be massive.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Difficult to walk into a Test match and actually have
no idea what's going to go on because it's such
unfamiliar territory. Does that that it happened a lot? I
don't know how it works at that top level, but
I suppose you'd look at it go We just don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, there's a bit of I guess the unknown and that,
like you said, that's I guess it's a little bit
different for test cricket. You know, you use your scout
and know you know each player inside out and what
each work it's going to do. So yeah, that's but
then I guess we can go back and just think
about ourselves, you know, have a plan what we want
to do as a as a unit, and and go
(04:26):
from there. It's you know, seems is going to play
an important part as well. You know, so it's I
guess it's a collective effort, and you know we speak
about you know, adapting pretty quickly, and White.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Wall cricket it's going to be, you know, something similar
and Test cricket.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
You know, that's I guess, we don't know what it's
going to play like, and we've got to kind of
true to that way.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Mitchettan and joined. You send a lot of athletes at
the top of the game, at that world level. They
want to play the best, they want to get the
best of the opposition. Rushi Kahn's not there back injury,
he's out. It's kind of disappointing to you that a
guy like that is actually not going to be on
the park.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah, I guess you know it's it's it'll be nice,
but you know, on the flip side, it's probably nice
that it's not there for us because we tell how
good it is.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I tried to see you up to see me polite
and nights about it. Come on, match no fair cool?
You mentioned the the World Test Championship before. Is that
something that just sits quietly in the back of your
mind after winning it that first time around? Is that
still relevant to you game by game process, session by
(05:32):
session or is that still the price for you blokes?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, I guess that's kind of the prize at the end.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
But you know, we've got a lot of a lot
of time in the dirt before then, and we know that,
you know, it's going to be a challenge that we
don't a thing too far ahead because we we know
if we can do a job and over a long
time and constant, we could flow ourselves in a in
a position.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But yeah, you know, first thing, Sirst, we've got to.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
You know, play a pretty good f DOWNI standing side,
and then you see what happens after that.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
A lot of time in the dirt. Was that that
phrase you just used. Is that this new term for
playing test cricket in the dirt?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That's hopefully not too much because that means we're bowling
probably more than we want to.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
But yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I'm running with that. Out of the team that are
over there and much experience. Obviously no one's played on
this particular ground, but experience wise as far as playing
over in the subcontinent, you've got a few crew who
have had some success over there and a couple of
younger guys as well. What kind of advice would you
give them about how to deal with with touring in
the subcontinent because it's not the easiest place to be,
(06:40):
is it. We're talking whether diet, there's a number of considerations.
It can be quite upseting to the young uns.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, that's it can be a challenge, I guess, but
you know, I think that's where you kind of rallied
around each other more and I guess you do have
a lot of downtime because you're not venturing out too much.
But yeah, I think you know, the main thing we
speak about is it can happen very quickly over there,
and we've seen it number of times again, you can
be you know, in the dirt and battling away, and
(07:11):
you know you can get like a bang bang quickly
and the game can change quickly. So it's you know,
it's about staying in the in the game for as
long as you can.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And yeah, Mitch, before we let you go, as Aj
has been wandering around going ten teen from last time around.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, I think he's pretty excited to get back to
Mumbai's for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I get that completely. Hey, thanks very much for joining
us much looking forward to seeing your progress in the
dirt and thanks for the new phrase, love your work mate.
That is rich.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News Talks.
They'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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