September 6, 2024 • 43 mins
Filling in for D'Arcy Waldegrave, Craig Cumming recaps the week in the wonderful world of sport.
On tonight's agenda:
Former All Blacks coach Laurie Mains on last weekend's test against South Africa.
Talkback - Rugby.
NZ Cricket CEO Scott Weenink on the imminent start of the summer (spring?) of cricket.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
from News talk Ed.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be very good evening and welcome into sports Talk on
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news Talks. Big Gray coming filling in for Darcy water Grave.
So I'll be with you through until eight o'clock. Looking
forward to talking sport this hour. Reminding me of a
little bit of my old life, sitting in the hot
seat and looking forward to your calls and actually into
reacting with with what you have got to say and
having some good talk back. But before that we're going
to talk some more Blacks. Big weekend for them, isn't it.
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I've got to take on South Africa. They need to
win the second Test to draw the series, to stay
in the championship, but in more so for all blacks,
I suppose pedigree, They've got to stay in it. Scott Robinson,
the cloud is there. I reckon the blankets holding him
back at the moment. He's got a little bit of leeway.
But if he loses both test matches in South Africa
then the things might not be so razy. We're going
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to catch up with the Lory Maines very shortly and
he'll tell us his thoughts on the first Test. But
also what the All Blacks need to do. Of course,
the lines will be open after talking to Lorry, a
chance for you to call in and discuss all things.
And then at the end of the show we're going
to catch up with Scott Weenick and more than happy
to talk cricket too on the show. As you know,
when it comes to rugby, I pretend to know what
I'm talking about. When i'm cricket, Oh, act like I
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know what I'm talking about. But the black Caps get
underway on Monday against Afghanistan. In the next three and
a half months nine Test matches, They've got one against
Afghanistan and India. They go to Sri Lanka for two,
back to India for three, then they come home and
they take on England for three Test matches before Christmas.
So for the Test match lovers out there, this is
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going to be a dream three and a half months
in this black Cap side going to be challenged. I've
tried to pick my team for the first Test match
and I can't do it. That's how easy it's going
to be. So an opportunity for you to give me
a call after we catch up with Lurry and talk
all things sport. Happy to go where you want to
take me, but of course the All Blacks will be
top of the conversation. And also I'd like to talk
to Black Caps and find out where you find or
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hold them when it comes to what they have to
achieve in these nine Test matches. So it's going to
be a busy hout. The time is eight minutes past seven, Darcy.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
Sports Talk call Oh wait, hundred news talk.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Time to talk Rugby on the program. Big Test match
for the All Blacks, the second one against South Africa
and if you want to find out what they need
to do well, they form All Black coach, former All
Black and a man who spent a lot of time
in Africa as Lury mains and he joins me. Good evening, Lurry,
how are.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You Yeah, good evening, I'm well, thank you well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Before we go to this weekend, let's go back to
last weekend. What did you make of the Your Black
performance and what did you make I suppose of the officiating.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, for sixty minutes, the All Blacks controlled that Test
and were clearly the better team. Then there was a
turning point in the game when South Africa were given
a try that wasn't and the television match official that
interfere in all other areas when he saw things told
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the referee why didn't he bring that up? That concerns me?
And then following on in that vein the all Blacks
were penalized almost off the park and a lot of
them were issues around the ruck and tackle situation and
South Africa didn't get penalized for doing exactly the same things.
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So I would say very clearly the officiating of that
Test match was substandard.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Is that a case, Larry? I mean, you grew up
where you were used to but with neutral referees now,
I mean, why does that happen? I suppose you know,
you can say yes, it's at Johannesburg, But the reality
is the officials should be a.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Neutral well they should be, and it's very hard for
them to be neutral. I guess when they're in such
a precious situation. The very good ones like Angus Gardener
from Australia just shut everything else out and concentrate on
doing their job and buy and laid say. You know,
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those referees do a very good job. But that referee
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What do you make a TMO, Laurie, I mean you
grew up, you didn't have it the referees call. I
mean many times you could probably argue and rolling walls
over the line? Was it down with it? At least
we knew it was consistent, because in some ways it
was inconsistent. What do you make of the TMO now, Well,
if you.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Want to get more accuracy, then the TMO can be useful,
but it seems to be like everything, we're getting line
umpires interfering now when they're not needed. There's a certain
amount of give and take in a match, so the
television match official should be consulted when the referee is unclear,
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when there's some uncertainty about whether or not a try
was scored and the play leading up to that try,
because if there was a knock on or a forward
bass then the team shouldn't be rewarded for that. But
that's for me, that's the only time they should be
involved in the game.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You spoke about the first sixty minutes your black being
the better side. What did you like in that sixty minutes, Laurie.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, to put it bluntly, the all blacks hopped into it.
They had more skill in getting themselves in the attacking
parts of the field and the tries they scored were
outstanding teamwork tries and defensively, they didn't give South Africa
the same opportunities do they?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What changes then, if you're looking towards this weekend? What changes?
I mean not so much personel because we've seen those.
Maybe we're talking a minute, but what do they need
to change then to be able to do that for
a minute knowing that fingers crossed that officiating doesn't make
those changes?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Okay, Well, here's the thing about playing at altitude. It
catches up with you. When you don't live at altitude,
or if you haven't been up there for two weeks
prior to a game, you know that you've got to
have a specific game plan for that last twenty minutes.
That slows the game down because you do run out
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of energy. That's a fact. And we saw that the
All Blacks just lost their edge. Now coming into this
test match, it will be entirely different. Two reasons Russia.
Rasmus the coach of the spring Box. He's clever and
he will have analyzed thoroughly why the All Blacks were
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able to score the tries they scored, and he'll come
up with some pretty good ways of stopping that happening. Again,
some of them you can't because it comes from second, third,
fourth phase play and it just develops out of the
brilliance of the All Black players and it's very hard
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to coach your team against that. But he will try
and stop those things happening. He'll be trying to work
out a way to stop the All Blacks getting four
or five phases in a row with room for their
backs to move. The All Blacks, well, they've got to
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expect that South Africa will come at them a bit
harder with some slightly different tactics. I wouldn't be at
orthurprised if there's not a lot of high kicks into
midfield for them to chase, and they will look to
create and the reason for that that they'll want to
get the All Black backs just back a little bit,
not rushing them defensively so much in midfield. And then
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if the All Black backs do buy that and drop
back a little bit to cover those high kicks, then
the brilliance of some of those young South African backs,
they'll get a bit of room to move in. So there,
that's sort of the game that Scott Robertson's got to
decide what they're going to persist with through the game
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defensively and and how you know, how they're going to
counter what South Africa will want to do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, and maybe Laurie that's been signaled with Andro Pollard
starting also willing to rue back at fullback. And then
they are, I suppose the safe hands when it comes
to South Africa, the way they've played, haven't they in
the last probably seven years when it comes to I
suppose that trying to nullify the opposition to have any
attack because of their kick game and the way they play.
And maybe he signaled his cards by by picking those
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two players.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, certainly by picking Andre Pollard, not so much LaRue,
but by picking Andre Pollard, he is showing telling the
All Blacks, well, we're not just going to run it
around and let you create play from breakdowns and things
like that. We're going to keep this game pretty tight.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Remember, of course it's not at altitude, so the All
Blacks won't be lacking an energy playing in Cape Town.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, that's right, And do you think the All Blacks,
I mean, this is actually just off what you said.
I mean, I've done the same with cricket, where you
go over and you're either out there for a short
period of time, you just about beat that four or
five day lag, Laurie, when it comes altitude, or you
nearly need to be there two weeks. Do you think
the All Blacks could have gone over a little bit
earlier because it looked like they were just about in
the middle of that comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, yes, and believe it or not, that's worse. Yeah,
what they used to what they what they used to
tell us to do was stay at sea level until
the day before the game, then go up and don't train,
don't use up the energy that's already stored in your body. Now,
whether there's been a change in physiological thinking or what,
(10:04):
I don't know, butwing four or five days before and
training up there, well, in my day it was frowned
on as you're using up the player's energy and they
haven't got time to acclimatize for the high altitude. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Same, well my day too, Larie. And that's what we
used to do with cricket, exactly the same thing, because
you had that four day window where you just hit
the wall, all back changes a couple of big ones.
Will Jordan back to fall back? I suppose Boden Barrett
onto the bench along with TJ Pirna. Do you like
the changes that the All Blacks have made.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm going to watch the half back one with interest.
I'm pretty keen on that player and he's quick, got
a quick long pass and that probably tells us that
the All Blacks are going to want to run it
a bit more. And of course will Jorden fallback. He
is great for creating play. I'm not so sure that
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Boden Barrett should be on the reserves, but strategically he
may be there specifically to come on early in the
second half and bust the game open like he did
in that second Test against England. If the All Black
selectors had planned to use bout that way in that
second Test, then it certainly worked. And he's a player
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that's capable of doing that personally. Under the pressure of
this Test match, I think I might have started with
Bowden at first five.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Eighth, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And I'm not taking anything away from Damien McKenzie. He's
playing at the top of his ability, but South Africa
will target him now he's a small man and dull,
try and tie things up, make things a lot tighter,
and they'll target him. Whereas Boden Barrett is well, if
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you can tell me what he does, you're a better
man than me. He is so good at taking what
is on in this instant. This is an opportunity, he'll
take it. You can't read them, you know, And and
he's big and strong.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, excellent, Thanks very much, Lurie. Really appreciate your time,
and I always enjoyed listening to people who have got
far more expertise than I. Some strong points there from Lourie.
Around the officiating, I'm always conscious and worried, but it's
around the TMO. In my opinion, when it comes to
technology and sport, officials will make mistakes. We understand that,
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and I've got no issue with that. If you've got
TMOS or technology, then that's there to make it one
hundred percent correct. And did that happen last week? Maybe not?
Maybe not. Some people say definitely not. Some people will
say there's plenty of different parts throughout a game where
there are opportunities for I suppose that the Leger get balanced,
and that happens, and I totally agree with that, but
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ruck and more. I mean, you could penalize each team,
probably at every single one of them. I don't think
there's such thing as a ruck and the laws of
the game of rugby. But let's hear what your thoughts
are on the back of what Laurie said. The changes,
the four changes the All Blacks made member South Africa
have made seven. What do you want from this all
black side? But also what do you expect from this
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all black side? So the lines will be open, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can also text me
through on nine to nine. So I'd love to hear
from out there in radio land. Come and give you
a call and we get into a conversation around this
all black side. It's going to be a thrilling I'm
loving sitting on the enemy seat now watching the All
Blacks take on teams knowing that they're not going to
win your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty teen eighty.
Your time for a break. The time is nineteen minutes
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past seven.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Forget the ref's call. You make a call on eight
hundred and eighty eighty. Sports talk on your home of sport.
These talks be.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Past seven o'clock. Welcome to the news talk great coming
sitting in the hot seat and looking forward to your cause.
On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's go to
the phone lines and welcome in for the first quarter tonight. Bruce,
you want to talk about the back line, O Craig,
how the going very well? How are you?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Not to bad mate, not to bed. When I mean
back line, I mean backbone. And then you know it
all comes from grassroots. And when I mean grassroots, I
spit my younger days playing and the Packernga. How it
feels of the Packeranga Rugby Club. What used to do
outitude training on pitching mountain, up and down, up and down,
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up and down. When mikeel Grand final appearances on the
old Mighty Bell Park. You know, we us, you know,
and I'm talking about under nines peker Anga rope Club
undernine play.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Can I ask how does that? How would do you
think that relates to the All Blacks?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, what it is, it's spine, it's grass through in
this country. And what I mean by that is we
don't have an altitude. What have we start to for
the last fifteen years and it's just failing into all blacks.
We don't travel the world do an altitude training. Do
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we know you're right exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's a good point, Bruce, appreciate you cool, thanks for
kicking us off. I mean, I've got to help you.
And I had no experience before when I actually to Zimbabwe,
and they talk about there's a window in the first
couple of days you're okay, and there's the day three
I think in day four from memory, and you literally
do wake up and your nose is dry, and every
time you try and run you just feel naked. You
feel absolutely naked. You got very little in the tank,
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and then literally because I suppose there's less oxygen in
the air, and then over time your body, you know,
through sleeping and that sort of stuff. Sometimes sleeping is terrible.
You start to get used to and they used to
say probably after about a week a week in a bet,
you start to acclimatize. So it's either like Laurie Man said,
you to get in really quickly so you don't have
that three day lag, or yeah, you get there a
little bit earlier. But I went over there pretty fit
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and on the back of that brids I don't think
you know, even if I was very fit, altitude is
certainly a different thing. Right, Let's go to Rob. How
are you the Rob this evening?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
You can made good? Yeah? Cheers.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I missed the majority of the game because I'm me alarm.
Managed to Yeah, I managed to catch up with things
when things were pretty rosies here, and I just felt
they didn't go down, bring it, bring it, bring it
back in, hold it and they again if it went
out to the back, you know, generally it was kicked
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up and down up the phenol, you know. So to me,
that should have been the mentality we're ahead of only
got so much to go here. Well, you know this
key position and like you've got to utilize your energy thill,
So that would be a good time to slay things down,
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which I never did. And this is something they used
to do in these crazy to me, why not you
know that's not mentioned?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And yeah, I wonder too, Rob, if you know we
one thing that stopped is in super rugby, we're not
getting the experience there as players and also as coaches
going over there and playing and having these experiences. Yeah,
and then you get the experience and then you know
what to implement.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yeah, Well the ill breaks of old knew all about that,
and I think they would have slowed down. You know
you like to you Fitzpatrick's the no brainer, so that
I mean, there's basic fundamental zere not. Yeah, it's amazing
to me not to have that utilized, to go to
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that option.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Appreciate you cool, Thanks very much, Rob. Well, I'll keep
moving on. But it's a good point. I actually heard
a former All Black talking about, Yeah, that last twenty
minutes in the way you've got to play the game.
And but that was learned through going over there and
playing when the first you know, All Black side when
I was at ninety six ninety seven, that very good
side that won the series over there, it was very different.
Appreciate your time, Rob. I'll keep moving on. But you
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enjoyed the second Test match and fingers crossed, the alarm
goes off, Jeff, good evening, how are you?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Oh, good eating? I've been, I've been. I watched the
first Test very clearly. I could see that the ball
when that South African guy went over to score a try,
I could see that he had knocked the ball on.
I was very obvious and I'm really I'm actually really
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quote Feberg acid that this referee still allowed to try.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I don't think, Jeff. Well, in my opinion, it's
not so much the referee, that's the TMO, because that's
when an opportunity. We see it so often for the
TMO to come in and get in the riffs here
and say, I believe there could be a knock on,
we need to go and chick it.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Why why wasn't that checked out?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I couldn't tell you. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
As far as I'm concerned, is this wherefore we going
to rip the second Test?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm not sure. I want to look that up. When
Laurie was talking, I was trying to find I'm not sure.
But as I said, I in the old days, I
probably would read it bit more.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Scott Robinson should object to this with in the next game,
because not only was it that issue, As far as
I'm concerned, I could I couldn't see why the Old
Blacks were getting penalized when when when the South Africans
were doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You make a good point, Jeff, You make a good point.
I mean, thanks for you call, Jeff, appreciate it. You
enjoy the second Test match? And I mean Laurie made
that point, didn't he. The lines are open, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you want to get through,
you'll get through pretty quickly. But Lurry did make that
point and strongly. I always find I mean, I'm used
to sit there and yell on screen, but rugby must
be the toughest game in all sports to referee. Seriously,
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there are that many rules. There is a book bind
I spoke to Ben o'keeff a couple of weeks ago,
and like you know, you just about have to go
a degree at university to understand them all. And you know,
interpretation is a big one. And but there are certain
things that we all agree that you should get right
wrong soon as it goes to the TMO. I'm the same,
like when it comes to technology, you use technology because
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it's meant to give you one hundred percent. And cricket
they go to the technology and they use it and
they use you know, hawkeye whatever, and it becomes a
computer based system and the person sitting there just telling
the process of what's going on but not actually making decision.
If it goes to the naked eye, they have to
get it right. Otherwise what's the point. Otherwise what's the point.
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And I've got some text messages before we go to
a break. We've got a big game tomorrow night two,
top of the table Ram Frilly at McLain Park, Tasman
our favorites yet that I've really enjoyed the NPC this year.
I've really enjoyed the fact that we've got teams looking
to score tries. We're seeing attacking rugby less structure really good. Also,
if you want to bring up on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, we've got the opportunity to talk some
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cricket nine Test matches before we get to Christmas for
our Black capside. Wonderful Tim has bang on seven thirty.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Col Sure calls in time getting new steeds so.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Extrange words come on out.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Of twenty seven minutes to eight o'clock on news talk break.
Coming sitting in the hot seed. Our lines are open.
Eighteen eighty. I've got it ticks about Craig. What do
you think the bowling mix will be for the Test
match against Afghanistan. I'll get into that shortly because I
actually can't work it out. I really can't try and
work out my team for the Black Caps taking on
Afghanistan on Monday night because there are too many around us.
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Let's go back to the lines. Let's welcome in Conrad.
How are you Conrad?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, hi, Craig.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Hey, Austin's discussion with Laurie. Yeah. The spring Box got
out of jail last week and I'm just just going
to be effect man. I'm just so behind Robinson and
the team that the one of the key things is
that in the second half, when the spring Box wring
on their bump squad, why aren't our forwards flow it down?
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So we should just be cynical just like they are,
because we have, you know, like as Sabina and Stuft
to just start right down, start, you know, doing this
shoe lasers and stuff worth ten minutes to go. That's
my key point about the rugby. Okay, anyway, I'm looking
forward to it. I always wanted to just mention on
the cricket. It's just going to see I'm pretty sure playing.
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Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, he's in the squad, so.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Heaving, Craig said, a squad, but the squad is like
fourteen rather than twelve or something.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He's actually in the beginning of even.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I've written down the squad. I've written down my team
and I'm stuck because Conway and Latham open Williamson, I've
got Nicole sorry Mitchell at four, Phillips at five who
can bowl off spin. Then I've got Revendra who can
also bowl left arm spin. Blunder at seven. Now's the
problem because if I play Satna and Patel, that gives
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us three left arm spinners. Yeah, the other options you
could play Bracewood. That means I'm going to leave you out,
either Satna or Patel. Well, the last time Patel was
in the sub continent, he got ten wickets in a
match other than Bangladesh when he was in India. And
then you've got Saudi and Henry, So I'm stuck in
that middle there. Conrad, I'm not sure what I'm going
to do because I don't think you need three left
arm spinners and Satna Patel and also Revendra.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well, well, my my Som'm over. I joyed that Tell's
playing through all of this is this great opportunity for
them and for Bracewell, who I think should play.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
That's the in my opinion that some of like Phillips,
are one of the top the earlier names in your
list should drop out in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, I member, he got five wickets against Australia as
an off spinner in Wellington.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, I know, I just leave it with that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So thanks, appreciate, appreciate your time. Conrad. Yeah, the All
Blacks the problem I have. Well, when I say the problem,
it's it's quite interesting because you know, I used to
do a lot of radio, and I used to do
a lot of the old old fashion radio sport and
also here on news Talks you b and on this
show as well. Is that I don't think that's the
All Black brand saying right, we're going to drop a knee,
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We're going to pick do our shoelacers up. Is that
the way that we want to go? And once upon
a time, and I always said it, and I spoke
to actually Darcy a little bit earlier today, the All Blacks.
Once we were so dominant, and I used to sit
on the studio and talk to people we are tonight
and people who bring up and complain that we'd won
by twenty points and hadn't played well enough. And I
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always said at the time, and not saying that I'm
always right, but enjoy it. It's hard to enjoy always winning,
but enjoy it because you've got a team that is
so dominant and it's not going to happen for it.
We're in that stage now and for the first time
maybe in the last three or four years, we're the chasers.
We're not setting the standard. So when it comes to
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South Africa, I'm reading headlines an how about what Rasi
and Raspus is going to do with his side thing
and what are they going to do? As opposed to
thinking what is the all Black side going to do?
How are they going to play? What's their new initiatives
that they're going to put it in place? Are we
picking a side now that is reactive to thinking how
are South Africa going to play? Or what are we
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going to do? That is different? I don't think taking
a knee and I'm not being disrespectful to what you're
saying Conrid is that I don't think that's our brand
of rugby. We kicked a lot in that second first Test.
In the back end, we didn't kick very well. I
would say the problem is trying to hold onto the
ball makes it tough because that takes energy, It takes commitment. Yes,
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we've got new players on, but so do they. But
I always think the game of test match rugby, and
I watched a lot over me years. I'm a year
older than I was last week because I actually turned
forty nine, that it's still a game of territory and
if you get them into their own half they've got
to go sixty seventy meters to be able to score
a try. And I still believe that that's part of
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what happens. That's why we played well and that second
Test against Argentina. We're able to control territory, so they
want to run it out and they make the mistake
for our own half, we can kick the penalty goal
or we can kick for the line. Now that new change,
So that's the little change, and I just wonder, you know,
when it comes to this all black side up. What
I'm looking for and I'm watching closely at the moment
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and I'm not sure if I quite should get it
is what the new style is. But then in saying that,
now we've got a new half back and Larrie Maynes
talked about that, and we've also got will Jordan mckett fullback.
We've got a new blindside flankert because there's an injury
to black Adder. So there are those things, but the
lines are open, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
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if you want to talk some cricket too. The black
Caps take on Afghanistan on Monday night over in India.
They then go to Sri Lanka for two test matches.
Then they go back to India for three test matches,
believe it or not, then they come home and take
on England. So give me a call. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty teen eighty. We're also going to catch up
with the CEO from New Zealand, Scott Whennick very shortly
(27:40):
twenty one minute stay a plot time to talk cricket
on the program. Let's welcome in the CEO of New
Zealand Cricket, Scott. When good evening, Scott, how are.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
You very well?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Very well?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thanks for having me on, Craig, No, very good to
have you on and thanks for being available at what
an exciting time, Scott. I was just looking at the calendar.
We've got Afghanistan test on Monday. We then we've got
two against Sri Lanka, three against India over in India
and then three with England coming here all before Christmas.
Test cricket, you know, for us lovers is alive.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Really.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yeah, No, I'm absolutely busy and I know that. I
know the black Caps are too.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What is it? I mean when you look at the schedule,
we always feel like we don't get enough. Is it
just the perfect storm at the moment that we've managed
to get so much Test cricket in such a short
period of time.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean arranging the schedules is like the matrix
on top of the mattrix. It's incredibly challenging. And obviously
these particularly games were put in place probably about eighteen
months ago, so you just got to make the most
of it while you can. You know, clearly there will
be not so many games next year, but there'll be
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a lot of top white ball games, So make the
most of the red ball games over the next sort
of six months.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah. And as I mean, you think a Gary stead
in the preparation, you know, you want to have continuity
in playing Afghanistan, then Sri Lanka and then back over
to India. Being in the subcontinent and playing consecutive Test
matches must help so much because as we know, it, Scott.
There's just no time these days for tours, for preseason
games and getting prepared, so being over there for a
period of time will certainly help them when it comes
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to performance.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah. I mean, look, what is going to make a
huge difference is these indoor outdoor training facilities that we
refer to as Kravo's. We've currently got four of them
across the country and we'll be building two more to
have full coverage. And that enables us to actually have
the teams training on pitchers that they're going to be
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using or they're going to be playing on in the subcontinent.
So the Black Cats have had some exceptional preparation actually
playing on wickets of turning square. Then you know, on
the back of that, actually playing you know, a significant
period of time in those conditions should hopefully mean by
the end of it we're playing pretty well. I think
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what's also great is that we do have some real
depth in our in our spin bowling stocks. You know,
we've got a number of our batsmen are actually very
very capable of spittns too. So I don't want to
get too far above above the cells, but you know,
i'd like to think we've actually got a really good opportunity,
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you know this, over the next six months to do well.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
That's a good point you make, and you're right. Yeah,
I'm sure you've got your opinion and you sit in
your chair and try not to But it must be
nice for our spin bowlders because we know our history
shows that in new gentlemen they ain't get a lot
of go so to have that many tests over there,
you know, Ages Ptel, Sat now those guys, it must
be nice for them to go. Right, I'm actually going
to be needed here. And the challenge for them, though
Scott will be they need to front up because they're
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going to be needed to win test matches.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, that's right. But all of those guys have done
that and they sent Agaz you know, they have won
test matches with their bowling, and also you know, obviously
Glenn Phillips, you know, bold extremely well last last season.
So yeah, I think they'll go, and they'll go and
with the confidence that they can actually perform and those
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you know in those areas.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, I think Ags Wouldel had a little ten for
last time he was in India.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Didn't he.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
That's right. Yeah, And we're playing we're playing the Mumbai again,
so you know he'll have very very fond memories of
that ground.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Tell us how the excitement around like Afghanistan playing a
Test match against them? It's is that a case of
showing that, especially for the ic C, they are serious
about growing the game in the international game.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah they are. I mean, look, Afghanistan are an exceptional team.
I think I think they've already played ten Test matches
number one, almost half of them. So and what we
saw in that ICC T twenty World Cup, not only
have they got some exceptional spinners, but they've actually got
a really capable seam bowling attack as well. So they
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are going to be a very very tough proposition.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Really excited too after we get through that. How I much,
as I suppose, is the buzz around specially in z
CEA worth having three Test matches against England at home
before Christmas?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah, No, incredible exciting they we you know, we hope
we'll sell all of those Test matches out and all
going well, we will, you know, we'll still be in
the hunt to make the World Guest Championship final. So
there and as well England, I'm sure so not only
will they be well supported, just because it's England, but
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I actually think there's probably going to be a lot
riding on them in terms of qualification for World Test Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That it'd be great and also so we've got I
think at the moment the White Ferns are in camp,
they will be announcing their side soon, they'll be off
to play Australia and then a T twenty World Cup
now and Dubai, so plenty of cricket happening and also
it's going to be a challenging time for them, but
a great opportunity for the White Folds to show some development.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, I mean England was an incredibly tough tour and
you know I was over there, but England are an
incredibly strong side, you know, probably one of the best
woman's side, if not cricket sides. So yeah, so look
it was tough. But if we take the learnings from
that tour and translate them into the World Cup, and
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you know, obviously we've got Australia before that as well,
you know, it's you know, I think it's actually pretty
promising for us. But yeah, very tough Australia first, then
the World Cup and then India. So again for the
white ferns a really really tough period of cricket.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
How do you how do you combine all the calendar?
Scott when it comes to you said the matrix, I mean, gee,
was it just must be layer upon layer upon layer
because it's not even talking about a domestic teams, our
age group teams as well.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
It's really challenging. And you know, I know that the
World Cricketers Association is looking to come out with their
views and even a proposal on windows, and I must
be I am a supporter of windows. I think you know,
even Rugby has windows. You know, there is so much
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cricket which is absolutely fantastic and the game's grown really
really quickly. But I think we need to, you know,
both the national associations and also the clubs and themessity
tween leagues need to actually work together to try and
get agree windows because otherwise we're competing against each other.
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And I just don't think we.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Need to who leads that Scott because obviously New Zealand
crickets are voice, but has that got to come from
the icy seat?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, the ICC are obviously a strong voice in the area,
as the MCC as the World Cricketers Association, but also
that you know, the stronger, the more powerful nations such
as the BCCI, ECB and Cricket Australia. You know, everyone
has voices. Some have a louder and stronger voices than others.
(35:26):
But it's it's really it'll need a coordinated effort where
people are prepared to you know, put some self interest
to the side and try and do what's best for
cricket as a whole.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Thank you very much, Scott. Always good to chat and
appreciate you being available on Friday night. It's a really
exciting calendar. As I mentioned through the show, the lines
are up, we've got a chance for recall if you'd
like to bring up oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty before we get to the end of the show.
And on the back of Scott when Nick there, I
mean it is a big challenge now trying to compress
all the calendars with all these franchises, and while it's
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so much money is involved, that's that's part of the problem.
And if you look at the the the Big Bash
in Australia, the second most lucrative tournament for players is
the South African t twenty League now which is at
the start of January. So we've got some players who
aren't willing to take contracts national contracts with New Zealand
because it gives them the friend now Kin Williamson's doing that,
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but we know Caine's fully dedicated to the Black Caps
and it's probably just for this year because after the
Christmas period there's a bit of a gap in our
international calendar when it comes to probably really big relevance.
There's notice cricket Sokine wants to maybe go over and
play in South Africa and it's all those teams over
there are owned by IPL franchise teams, so Mumbai, Bangalore,
they own the teams in South Africa. So the players
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get paid exceptionally. Well, that's why they're giving up contracts
with New Zealand Crickets. So they've got the freedom to
be able to move and then they just dove tail in.
But you've got to remember most of our top players
have to be make their name by playing for the
Black Caps. Again, we've got a chance for you if
you want to give me a call. When the lines open,
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. When we look
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at the schedule, the Black Caps play afghanis done Monday night.
They start at four pm. That'll be interesting. I said,
I can't pick my side. I really can't, and I
like to think I know what I'm doing. I can't
pick my side because if I was picking the best
players that I think should play, we'd have three left
arm spinners and Revendra, sat In and Patel and I
just don't know if they're going that. If they pick Bracewalt,
then you've got two off spinners. I do wonder why
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you say that he's not there. That's the league spin option.
I think Saudi and Henry will definitely play. But over
the course of they then go and play two Test
matches in Schlanka. We'll see some change. We'll see some change.
Then they go to India for three Test matches. And
I've had a text come in which was quite an
interesting one, asking and saying, we play England back here
at home, how will we go against the English when
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we come to Jelland and we'll actually be coming back
from what is it, six Test matches in the subcontinent.
And I had a look actually to that Texter. We
go to Hagley, which is actually known as I think
the bounciest pitch in the world with all the data
that they use. So we're going to go from sub
continent to come back home and we go to Hagley.
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So that's going to be a big challenge, but it
really is exciting from a test cricket point of view.
There's lots of challenges when it comes to cricket. I
had a text at the Starter show asking around the
broadcast rights, who has them At the moment, I think
I can confirm that this year it will still be
with TV and Z. I think the original steal which
went to Spark was for six years. I could be
(38:28):
wrong in five. If it's five, this would be the
last year. Next year, I'm pretty sure it six was
one more. So'll be on TV and Z this year
and also Duke so free to wear, which is wonderful
for our game. More good luck than good management. And
then after that, well, as we know with TV rights,
it's going to be a really big challenge to know
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where it's going to end up. Obviously Sky's in the background.
They used to have it for close to twenty years,
so that's going to keep us so in Hagley. It's
certainly going to be interesting and this had takes around
the refereeing are brought up about the Sam Cane tackle
on Calisi and broke his nose. They had to do
(39:12):
a fitness test with him through the week and he
passed it, but should have been a red card.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I mean, if you go through a game of rugby
and all, honestly, if you go through a game of rugby,
then you can simply find something everywhere. Speaking of rugby,
we've got the MPC on at the moment, and as
I said earlier in the show, I'm really enjoying it.
I'm really enjoying the MPC. I'm just trying to find it.
I'm gonna clicked off it. I know, yeah, I might
have clicked off it. I was going to update you
on the scores there.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The game currently being played at the moment. We've got
bayar plenty taken on one or two and at halftime.
If you don't want to know and you're driving home
and you get it on pause or you're going to
watch it, just cover your ears now. But I can
tell you Bay have plenty of found their form. They
are leading one or two by thirty five points to
fourteen at halftime. Wow, they have plenty of kicked into gear.
What do they win their first three games? Then they
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went down to my Otago and then they bounce back.
So very high scoring and as I said, I'm enjoying
the rugby being played in the NPC. One I enjoyed
last week watching the Cannabury game when they're out at Rangiora.
That was great seeing them out of the community grounds.
I want to see more of that. I think that's
where we've got to take our game, but we're not
gonna have time to talk about that tonight. Also still
coming up in the NPC over the weekend, Auckland take
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on North Harbor. Big battle tomorrow. This might be the
derby round, is it we've got yet? Tomorrow at two
I five pm. This is not a derby, but Wellington
taken on South and Wellington have been impressive. At two
I five pm. Big game down here in Dunedin. It's
the Battle of the South with a Targo taken on
Canterbury and that's at four thirty five pm. And I'm
backing my Targo. Canterbury listeners, I should have said at
(40:43):
the start of the show then you would have called
in when yeah, I reckon Targo's going to knock over
Kennby because you were ordinary last week. And then tomorrow
night we've got a Hawk's Bay who have been in
pressed as well, taken on the very very good Tasman
and then Taranaki taken on White Cattou again, another Ripper
on Sunday County's Manakhao taking on Northland. And then it's
with the storm week they taught midweek at Target take
(41:06):
on Wellington, so that's going to be n PC. Also
in the Fara Parmer Cup. Tomorrow we've got Auckland taken
on Counties Manacal, Northland taken on Canterbury, We've got Tasman
taken on Taranaki, Targo take on Wellington and then one
or two take on North Harbor and y Cato take
on Hawk's Bay. So they are the games in the
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Fara Palmer Cup. Since we didn't any callers, I'll just
keep up dating in what we've got coming up also
and the NRL I had that up to of course,
no warriors this weekend. I've got oh my computer, We've
got a new studio down here in Tonedin and that's
where I'm broadcasting from last night the Storm put fifty
points on the Broncos. The Tigers take on the Eels,
(41:48):
and then we've got the Rabbit has taken on the Roosters.
The Dragons take on the Raiders, The Bulldogs take on
the Cowboys. The Panthers, they're going to pull these socks up.
They're taken on the Titans. The Seagulls take on the Sharks,
and then the Knights take on the Dolphins. That will
be interesting because the Dolphins could make the top eight,
but they're going to take on the Nights. And Wayne
Bennett's old side is not that popular dem which is
(42:10):
not what you say very often. We're about Wayne Bennett
and that's us up to date. And I think we've
got a bit of music in the background as we're
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Speaker 5 (42:21):
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Speaker 2 (42:22):
Thank you very much for your company, Thanks for those calls.
I say, can't wait for the All Black Game this weekend.
I'm going to get up. I'm going to get up actually,
and I'm gonna watch and I'm going to pack. Here
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some expertise. Your Blacks are going to win by nine.
There we go, set it and then it's going to
be a tough test match for the black Caps against
Afghanistan on Monday nights and great viewing starts at four pm,
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be very good evening and welcome into sports Talk on
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news Talks. Big Gray coming filling in for Darcy water Grave.
So I'll be with you through until eight o'clock. Looking
forward to talking sport this hour. Reminding me of a
little bit of my old life, sitting in the hot
seat and looking forward to your calls and actually into
reacting with with what you have got to say and
having some good talk back. But before that we're going
to talk some more Blacks. Big weekend for them, isn't it.
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I've got to take on South Africa. They need to
win the second Test to draw the series, to stay
in the championship, but in more so for all blacks,
I suppose pedigree, They've got to stay in it. Scott Robinson,
the cloud is there. I reckon the blankets holding him
back at the moment. He's got a little bit of leeway.
But if he loses both test matches in South Africa
then the things might not be so razy. We're going
(01:21):
to catch up with the Lory Maines very shortly and
he'll tell us his thoughts on the first Test. But
also what the All Blacks need to do. Of course,
the lines will be open after talking to Lorry, a
chance for you to call in and discuss all things.
And then at the end of the show we're going
to catch up with Scott Weenick and more than happy
to talk cricket too on the show. As you know,
when it comes to rugby, I pretend to know what
I'm talking about. When i'm cricket, Oh, act like I
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know what I'm talking about. But the black Caps get
underway on Monday against Afghanistan. In the next three and
a half months nine Test matches, They've got one against
Afghanistan and India. They go to Sri Lanka for two,
back to India for three, then they come home and
they take on England for three Test matches before Christmas.
So for the Test match lovers out there, this is
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going to be a dream three and a half months
in this black Cap side going to be challenged. I've
tried to pick my team for the first Test match
and I can't do it. That's how easy it's going
to be. So an opportunity for you to give me
a call after we catch up with Lurry and talk
all things sport. Happy to go where you want to
take me, but of course the All Blacks will be
top of the conversation. And also I'd like to talk
to Black Caps and find out where you find or
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hold them when it comes to what they have to
achieve in these nine Test matches. So it's going to
be a busy hout. The time is eight minutes past seven, Darcy.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
No need for the TMO. We've got the breakdown on
Sports Talk call Oh wait, hundred news talk.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Time to talk Rugby on the program. Big Test match
for the All Blacks, the second one against South Africa
and if you want to find out what they need
to do well, they form All Black coach, former All
Black and a man who spent a lot of time
in Africa as Lury mains and he joins me. Good evening, Lurry,
how are.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You Yeah, good evening, I'm well, thank you well.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Before we go to this weekend, let's go back to
last weekend. What did you make of the Your Black
performance and what did you make I suppose of the officiating.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, for sixty minutes, the All Blacks controlled that Test
and were clearly the better team. Then there was a
turning point in the game when South Africa were given
a try that wasn't and the television match official that
interfere in all other areas when he saw things told
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the referee why didn't he bring that up? That concerns me?
And then following on in that vein the all Blacks
were penalized almost off the park and a lot of
them were issues around the ruck and tackle situation and
South Africa didn't get penalized for doing exactly the same things.
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So I would say very clearly the officiating of that
Test match was substandard.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Is that a case, Larry? I mean, you grew up
where you were used to but with neutral referees now,
I mean, why does that happen? I suppose you know,
you can say yes, it's at Johannesburg, But the reality
is the officials should be a.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Neutral well they should be, and it's very hard for
them to be neutral. I guess when they're in such
a precious situation. The very good ones like Angus Gardener
from Australia just shut everything else out and concentrate on
doing their job and buy and laid say. You know,
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those referees do a very good job. But that referee
he didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What do you make a TMO, Laurie, I mean you
grew up, you didn't have it the referees call. I
mean many times you could probably argue and rolling walls
over the line? Was it down with it? At least
we knew it was consistent, because in some ways it
was inconsistent. What do you make of the TMO now, Well,
if you.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Want to get more accuracy, then the TMO can be useful,
but it seems to be like everything, we're getting line
umpires interfering now when they're not needed. There's a certain
amount of give and take in a match, so the
television match official should be consulted when the referee is unclear,
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when there's some uncertainty about whether or not a try
was scored and the play leading up to that try,
because if there was a knock on or a forward
bass then the team shouldn't be rewarded for that. But
that's for me, that's the only time they should be
involved in the game.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
You spoke about the first sixty minutes your black being
the better side. What did you like in that sixty minutes, Laurie.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Well, to put it bluntly, the all blacks hopped into it.
They had more skill in getting themselves in the attacking
parts of the field and the tries they scored were
outstanding teamwork tries and defensively, they didn't give South Africa
the same opportunities do they?
Speaker 2 (06:03):
What changes then, if you're looking towards this weekend? What changes?
I mean not so much personel because we've seen those.
Maybe we're talking a minute, but what do they need
to change then to be able to do that for
a minute knowing that fingers crossed that officiating doesn't make
those changes?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Okay, Well, here's the thing about playing at altitude. It
catches up with you. When you don't live at altitude,
or if you haven't been up there for two weeks
prior to a game, you know that you've got to
have a specific game plan for that last twenty minutes.
That slows the game down because you do run out
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of energy. That's a fact. And we saw that the
All Blacks just lost their edge. Now coming into this
test match, it will be entirely different. Two reasons Russia.
Rasmus the coach of the spring Box. He's clever and
he will have analyzed thoroughly why the All Blacks were
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able to score the tries they scored, and he'll come
up with some pretty good ways of stopping that happening. Again,
some of them you can't because it comes from second, third,
fourth phase play and it just develops out of the
brilliance of the All Black players and it's very hard
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to coach your team against that. But he will try
and stop those things happening. He'll be trying to work
out a way to stop the All Blacks getting four
or five phases in a row with room for their
backs to move. The All Blacks, well, they've got to
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expect that South Africa will come at them a bit
harder with some slightly different tactics. I wouldn't be at
orthurprised if there's not a lot of high kicks into
midfield for them to chase, and they will look to
create and the reason for that that they'll want to
get the All Black backs just back a little bit,
not rushing them defensively so much in midfield. And then
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if the All Black backs do buy that and drop
back a little bit to cover those high kicks, then
the brilliance of some of those young South African backs,
they'll get a bit of room to move in. So there,
that's sort of the game that Scott Robertson's got to
decide what they're going to persist with through the game
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defensively and and how you know, how they're going to
counter what South Africa will want to do.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, and maybe Laurie that's been signaled with Andro Pollard
starting also willing to rue back at fullback. And then
they are, I suppose the safe hands when it comes
to South Africa, the way they've played, haven't they in
the last probably seven years when it comes to I
suppose that trying to nullify the opposition to have any
attack because of their kick game and the way they play.
And maybe he signaled his cards by by picking those
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two players.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Well, certainly by picking Andre Pollard, not so much LaRue,
but by picking Andre Pollard, he is showing telling the
All Blacks, well, we're not just going to run it
around and let you create play from breakdowns and things
like that. We're going to keep this game pretty tight.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Remember, of course it's not at altitude, so the All
Blacks won't be lacking an energy playing in Cape Town.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
No, that's right, And do you think the All Blacks,
I mean, this is actually just off what you said.
I mean, I've done the same with cricket, where you
go over and you're either out there for a short
period of time, you just about beat that four or
five day lag, Laurie, when it comes altitude, or you
nearly need to be there two weeks. Do you think
the All Blacks could have gone over a little bit
earlier because it looked like they were just about in
the middle of that comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, yes, and believe it or not, that's worse. Yeah,
what they used to what they what they used to
tell us to do was stay at sea level until
the day before the game, then go up and don't train,
don't use up the energy that's already stored in your body. Now,
whether there's been a change in physiological thinking or what,
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I don't know, butwing four or five days before and
training up there, well, in my day it was frowned
on as you're using up the player's energy and they
haven't got time to acclimatize for the high altitude. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Same, well my day too, Larie. And that's what we
used to do with cricket, exactly the same thing, because
you had that four day window where you just hit
the wall, all back changes a couple of big ones.
Will Jordan back to fall back? I suppose Boden Barrett
onto the bench along with TJ Pirna. Do you like
the changes that the All Blacks have made.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I'm going to watch the half back one with interest.
I'm pretty keen on that player and he's quick, got
a quick long pass and that probably tells us that
the All Blacks are going to want to run it
a bit more. And of course will Jorden fallback. He
is great for creating play. I'm not so sure that
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Boden Barrett should be on the reserves, but strategically he
may be there specifically to come on early in the
second half and bust the game open like he did
in that second Test against England. If the All Black
selectors had planned to use bout that way in that
second Test, then it certainly worked. And he's a player
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that's capable of doing that personally. Under the pressure of
this Test match, I think I might have started with
Bowden at first five.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Eighth, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And I'm not taking anything away from Damien McKenzie. He's
playing at the top of his ability, but South Africa
will target him now he's a small man and dull,
try and tie things up, make things a lot tighter,
and they'll target him. Whereas Boden Barrett is well, if
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you can tell me what he does, you're a better
man than me. He is so good at taking what
is on in this instant. This is an opportunity, he'll
take it. You can't read them, you know, And and
he's big and strong.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, excellent, Thanks very much, Lurie. Really appreciate your time,
and I always enjoyed listening to people who have got
far more expertise than I. Some strong points there from Lourie.
Around the officiating, I'm always conscious and worried, but it's
around the TMO. In my opinion, when it comes to
technology and sport, officials will make mistakes. We understand that,
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and I've got no issue with that. If you've got
TMOS or technology, then that's there to make it one
hundred percent correct. And did that happen last week? Maybe not?
Maybe not. Some people say definitely not. Some people will
say there's plenty of different parts throughout a game where
there are opportunities for I suppose that the Leger get balanced,
and that happens, and I totally agree with that, but
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ruck and more. I mean, you could penalize each team,
probably at every single one of them. I don't think
there's such thing as a ruck and the laws of
the game of rugby. But let's hear what your thoughts
are on the back of what Laurie said. The changes,
the four changes the All Blacks made member South Africa
have made seven. What do you want from this all
black side? But also what do you expect from this
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all black side? So the lines will be open, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can also text me
through on nine to nine. So I'd love to hear
from out there in radio land. Come and give you
a call and we get into a conversation around this
all black side. It's going to be a thrilling I'm
loving sitting on the enemy seat now watching the All
Blacks take on teams knowing that they're not going to
win your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty teen eighty.
Your time for a break. The time is nineteen minutes
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past seven.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Forget the ref's call. You make a call on eight
hundred and eighty eighty. Sports talk on your home of sport.
These talks be.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Past seven o'clock. Welcome to the news talk great coming
sitting in the hot seat and looking forward to your cause.
On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Let's go to
the phone lines and welcome in for the first quarter tonight. Bruce,
you want to talk about the back line, O Craig,
how the going very well? How are you?
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Not to bad mate, not to bed. When I mean
back line, I mean backbone. And then you know it
all comes from grassroots. And when I mean grassroots, I
spit my younger days playing and the Packernga. How it
feels of the Packeranga Rugby Club. What used to do
outitude training on pitching mountain, up and down, up and down,
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up and down. When mikeel Grand final appearances on the
old Mighty Bell Park. You know, we us, you know,
and I'm talking about under nines peker Anga rope Club
undernine play.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
You know.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Can I ask how does that? How would do you
think that relates to the All Blacks?
Speaker 6 (15:10):
Well, what it is, it's spine, it's grass through in
this country. And what I mean by that is we
don't have an altitude. What have we start to for
the last fifteen years and it's just failing into all blacks.
We don't travel the world do an altitude training. Do
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we know you're right exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's a good point, Bruce, appreciate you cool, thanks for
kicking us off. I mean, I've got to help you.
And I had no experience before when I actually to Zimbabwe,
and they talk about there's a window in the first
couple of days you're okay, and there's the day three
I think in day four from memory, and you literally
do wake up and your nose is dry, and every
time you try and run you just feel naked. You
feel absolutely naked. You got very little in the tank,
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and then literally because I suppose there's less oxygen in
the air, and then over time your body, you know,
through sleeping and that sort of stuff. Sometimes sleeping is terrible.
You start to get used to and they used to
say probably after about a week a week in a bet,
you start to acclimatize. So it's either like Laurie Man said,
you to get in really quickly so you don't have
that three day lag, or yeah, you get there a
little bit earlier. But I went over there pretty fit
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and on the back of that brids I don't think
you know, even if I was very fit, altitude is
certainly a different thing. Right, Let's go to Rob. How
are you the Rob this evening?
Speaker 7 (16:28):
You can made good? Yeah? Cheers.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I missed the majority of the game because I'm me alarm.
Managed to Yeah, I managed to catch up with things
when things were pretty rosies here, and I just felt
they didn't go down, bring it, bring it, bring it
back in, hold it and they again if it went
out to the back, you know, generally it was kicked
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up and down up the phenol, you know. So to me,
that should have been the mentality we're ahead of only
got so much to go here. Well, you know this
key position and like you've got to utilize your energy thill,
So that would be a good time to slay things down,
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which I never did. And this is something they used
to do in these crazy to me, why not you
know that's not mentioned?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And yeah, I wonder too, Rob, if you know we
one thing that stopped is in super rugby, we're not
getting the experience there as players and also as coaches
going over there and playing and having these experiences. Yeah,
and then you get the experience and then you know
what to implement.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yeah, Well the ill breaks of old knew all about that,
and I think they would have slowed down. You know
you like to you Fitzpatrick's the no brainer, so that
I mean, there's basic fundamental zere not. Yeah, it's amazing
to me not to have that utilized, to go to
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that option.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Appreciate you cool, Thanks very much, Rob. Well, I'll keep
moving on. But it's a good point. I actually heard
a former All Black talking about, Yeah, that last twenty
minutes in the way you've got to play the game.
And but that was learned through going over there and
playing when the first you know, All Black side when
I was at ninety six ninety seven, that very good
side that won the series over there, it was very different.
Appreciate your time, Rob. I'll keep moving on. But you
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enjoyed the second Test match and fingers crossed, the alarm
goes off, Jeff, good evening, how are you?
Speaker 8 (18:38):
Oh, good eating? I've been, I've been. I watched the
first Test very clearly. I could see that the ball
when that South African guy went over to score a try,
I could see that he had knocked the ball on.
I was very obvious and I'm really I'm actually really
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quote Feberg acid that this referee still allowed to try.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I don't think, Jeff. Well, in my opinion, it's
not so much the referee, that's the TMO, because that's
when an opportunity. We see it so often for the
TMO to come in and get in the riffs here
and say, I believe there could be a knock on,
we need to go and chick it.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
Why why wasn't that checked out?
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I couldn't tell you. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (19:32):
As far as I'm concerned, is this wherefore we going
to rip the second Test?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm not sure. I want to look that up. When
Laurie was talking, I was trying to find I'm not sure.
But as I said, I in the old days, I
probably would read it bit more.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Scott Robinson should object to this with in the next game,
because not only was it that issue, As far as
I'm concerned, I could I couldn't see why the Old
Blacks were getting penalized when when when the South Africans
were doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You make a good point, Jeff, You make a good point.
I mean, thanks for you call, Jeff, appreciate it. You
enjoy the second Test match? And I mean Laurie made
that point, didn't he. The lines are open, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you want to get through,
you'll get through pretty quickly. But Lurry did make that
point and strongly. I always find I mean, I'm used
to sit there and yell on screen, but rugby must
be the toughest game in all sports to referee. Seriously,
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there are that many rules. There is a book bind
I spoke to Ben o'keeff a couple of weeks ago,
and like you know, you just about have to go
a degree at university to understand them all. And you know,
interpretation is a big one. And but there are certain
things that we all agree that you should get right
wrong soon as it goes to the TMO. I'm the same,
like when it comes to technology, you use technology because
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it's meant to give you one hundred percent. And cricket
they go to the technology and they use it and
they use you know, hawkeye whatever, and it becomes a
computer based system and the person sitting there just telling
the process of what's going on but not actually making decision.
If it goes to the naked eye, they have to
get it right. Otherwise what's the point. Otherwise what's the point.
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And I've got some text messages before we go to
a break. We've got a big game tomorrow night two,
top of the table Ram Frilly at McLain Park, Tasman
our favorites yet that I've really enjoyed the NPC this year.
I've really enjoyed the fact that we've got teams looking
to score tries. We're seeing attacking rugby less structure really good. Also,
if you want to bring up on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty, we've got the opportunity to talk some
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cricket nine Test matches before we get to Christmas for
our Black capside. Wonderful Tim has bang on seven thirty.
Speaker 8 (21:52):
Col Sure calls in time getting new steeds so.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Extrange words come on out.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Of twenty seven minutes to eight o'clock on news talk break.
Coming sitting in the hot seed. Our lines are open.
Eighteen eighty. I've got it ticks about Craig. What do
you think the bowling mix will be for the Test
match against Afghanistan. I'll get into that shortly because I
actually can't work it out. I really can't try and
work out my team for the Black Caps taking on
Afghanistan on Monday night because there are too many around us.
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Let's go back to the lines. Let's welcome in Conrad.
How are you Conrad?
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, yeah, hi, Craig.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Hey, Austin's discussion with Laurie. Yeah. The spring Box got
out of jail last week and I'm just just going
to be effect man. I'm just so behind Robinson and
the team that the one of the key things is
that in the second half, when the spring Box wring
on their bump squad, why aren't our forwards flow it down?
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So we should just be cynical just like they are,
because we have, you know, like as Sabina and Stuft
to just start right down, start, you know, doing this
shoe lasers and stuff worth ten minutes to go. That's
my key point about the rugby. Okay, anyway, I'm looking
forward to it. I always wanted to just mention on
the cricket. It's just going to see I'm pretty sure playing.
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Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, he's in the squad, so.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Heaving, Craig said, a squad, but the squad is like
fourteen rather than twelve or something.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He's actually in the beginning of even.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
I've written down the squad. I've written down my team
and I'm stuck because Conway and Latham open Williamson, I've
got Nicole sorry Mitchell at four, Phillips at five who
can bowl off spin. Then I've got Revendra who can
also bowl left arm spin. Blunder at seven. Now's the
problem because if I play Satna and Patel, that gives
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us three left arm spinners. Yeah, the other options you
could play Bracewood. That means I'm going to leave you out,
either Satna or Patel. Well, the last time Patel was
in the sub continent, he got ten wickets in a
match other than Bangladesh when he was in India. And
then you've got Saudi and Henry, So I'm stuck in
that middle there. Conrad, I'm not sure what I'm going
to do because I don't think you need three left
arm spinners and Satna Patel and also Revendra.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Well, well, my my Som'm over. I joyed that Tell's
playing through all of this is this great opportunity for
them and for Bracewell, who I think should play.
Speaker 9 (24:15):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
That's the in my opinion that some of like Phillips,
are one of the top the earlier names in your
list should drop out in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well, I member, he got five wickets against Australia as
an off spinner in Wellington.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Yeah, I know, I just leave it with that.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So thanks, appreciate, appreciate your time. Conrad. Yeah, the All
Blacks the problem I have. Well, when I say the problem,
it's it's quite interesting because you know, I used to
do a lot of radio, and I used to do
a lot of the old old fashion radio sport and
also here on news Talks you b and on this
show as well. Is that I don't think that's the
All Black brand saying right, we're going to drop a knee,
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We're going to pick do our shoelacers up. Is that
the way that we want to go? And once upon
a time, and I always said it, and I spoke
to actually Darcy a little bit earlier today, the All Blacks.
Once we were so dominant, and I used to sit
on the studio and talk to people we are tonight
and people who bring up and complain that we'd won
by twenty points and hadn't played well enough. And I
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always said at the time, and not saying that I'm
always right, but enjoy it. It's hard to enjoy always winning,
but enjoy it because you've got a team that is
so dominant and it's not going to happen for it.
We're in that stage now and for the first time
maybe in the last three or four years, we're the chasers.
We're not setting the standard. So when it comes to
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South Africa, I'm reading headlines an how about what Rasi
and Raspus is going to do with his side thing
and what are they going to do? As opposed to
thinking what is the all Black side going to do?
How are they going to play? What's their new initiatives
that they're going to put it in place? Are we
picking a side now that is reactive to thinking how
are South Africa going to play? Or what are we
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going to do? That is different? I don't think taking
a knee and I'm not being disrespectful to what you're
saying Conrid is that I don't think that's our brand
of rugby. We kicked a lot in that second first Test.
In the back end, we didn't kick very well. I
would say the problem is trying to hold onto the
ball makes it tough because that takes energy, It takes commitment. Yes,
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we've got new players on, but so do they. But
I always think the game of test match rugby, and
I watched a lot over me years. I'm a year
older than I was last week because I actually turned
forty nine, that it's still a game of territory and
if you get them into their own half they've got
to go sixty seventy meters to be able to score
a try. And I still believe that that's part of
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what happens. That's why we played well and that second
Test against Argentina. We're able to control territory, so they
want to run it out and they make the mistake
for our own half, we can kick the penalty goal
or we can kick for the line. Now that new change,
So that's the little change, and I just wonder, you know,
when it comes to this all black side up. What
I'm looking for and I'm watching closely at the moment
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and I'm not sure if I quite should get it
is what the new style is. But then in saying that,
now we've got a new half back and Larrie Maynes
talked about that, and we've also got will Jordan mckett fullback.
We've got a new blindside flankert because there's an injury
to black Adder. So there are those things, but the
lines are open, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
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if you want to talk some cricket too. The black
Caps take on Afghanistan on Monday night over in India.
They then go to Sri Lanka for two test matches.
Then they go back to India for three test matches,
believe it or not, then they come home and take
on England. So give me a call. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty teen eighty. We're also going to catch up
with the CEO from New Zealand, Scott Whennick very shortly
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twenty one minute stay a plot time to talk cricket
on the program. Let's welcome in the CEO of New
Zealand Cricket, Scott. When good evening, Scott, how are.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
You very well?
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Very well?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thanks for having me on, Craig, No, very good to
have you on and thanks for being available at what
an exciting time, Scott. I was just looking at the calendar.
We've got Afghanistan test on Monday. We then we've got
two against Sri Lanka, three against India over in India
and then three with England coming here all before Christmas.
Test cricket, you know, for us lovers is alive.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, it's extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Really.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
Yeah, No, I'm absolutely busy and I know that. I
know the black Caps are too.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
What is it? I mean when you look at the schedule,
we always feel like we don't get enough. Is it
just the perfect storm at the moment that we've managed
to get so much Test cricket in such a short
period of time.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean arranging the schedules is like the matrix
on top of the mattrix. It's incredibly challenging. And obviously
these particularly games were put in place probably about eighteen
months ago, so you just got to make the most
of it while you can. You know, clearly there will
be not so many games next year, but there'll be
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a lot of top white ball games, So make the
most of the red ball games over the next sort
of six months.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah. And as I mean, you think a Gary stead
in the preparation, you know, you want to have continuity
in playing Afghanistan, then Sri Lanka and then back over
to India. Being in the subcontinent and playing consecutive Test
matches must help so much because as we know, it, Scott.
There's just no time these days for tours, for preseason
games and getting prepared, so being over there for a
period of time will certainly help them when it comes
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to performance.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah. I mean, look, what is going to make a
huge difference is these indoor outdoor training facilities that we
refer to as Kravo's. We've currently got four of them
across the country and we'll be building two more to
have full coverage. And that enables us to actually have
the teams training on pitchers that they're going to be
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using or they're going to be playing on in the subcontinent.
So the Black Cats have had some exceptional preparation actually
playing on wickets of turning square. Then you know, on
the back of that, actually playing you know, a significant
period of time in those conditions should hopefully mean by
the end of it we're playing pretty well. I think
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what's also great is that we do have some real
depth in our in our spin bowling stocks. You know,
we've got a number of our batsmen are actually very
very capable of spittns too. So I don't want to
get too far above above the cells, but you know,
i'd like to think we've actually got a really good opportunity,
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you know this, over the next six months to do well.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
That's a good point you make, and you're right. Yeah,
I'm sure you've got your opinion and you sit in
your chair and try not to But it must be
nice for our spin bowlders because we know our history
shows that in new gentlemen they ain't get a lot
of go so to have that many tests over there,
you know, Ages Ptel, Sat now those guys, it must
be nice for them to go. Right, I'm actually going
to be needed here. And the challenge for them, though
Scott will be they need to front up because they're
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going to be needed to win test matches.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, that's right. But all of those guys have done
that and they sent Agaz you know, they have won
test matches with their bowling, and also you know, obviously
Glenn Phillips, you know, bold extremely well last last season.
So yeah, I think they'll go, and they'll go and
with the confidence that they can actually perform and those
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you know in those areas.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Yeah, I think Ags Wouldel had a little ten for
last time he was in India.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Didn't he.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
That's right. Yeah, And we're playing we're playing the Mumbai again,
so you know he'll have very very fond memories of
that ground.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Tell us how the excitement around like Afghanistan playing a
Test match against them? It's is that a case of
showing that, especially for the ic C, they are serious
about growing the game in the international game.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah they are. I mean, look, Afghanistan are an exceptional team.
I think I think they've already played ten Test matches
number one, almost half of them. So and what we
saw in that ICC T twenty World Cup, not only
have they got some exceptional spinners, but they've actually got
a really capable seam bowling attack as well. So they
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are going to be a very very tough proposition.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Really excited too after we get through that. How I much,
as I suppose, is the buzz around specially in z
CEA worth having three Test matches against England at home
before Christmas?
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah, No, incredible exciting they we you know, we hope
we'll sell all of those Test matches out and all
going well, we will, you know, we'll still be in
the hunt to make the World Guest Championship final. So
there and as well England, I'm sure so not only
will they be well supported, just because it's England, but
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I actually think there's probably going to be a lot
riding on them in terms of qualification for World Test Championship.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That it'd be great and also so we've got I
think at the moment the White Ferns are in camp,
they will be announcing their side soon, they'll be off
to play Australia and then a T twenty World Cup
now and Dubai, so plenty of cricket happening and also
it's going to be a challenging time for them, but
a great opportunity for the White Folds to show some development.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
Yeah, I mean England was an incredibly tough tour and
you know I was over there, but England are an
incredibly strong side, you know, probably one of the best
woman's side, if not cricket sides. So yeah, so look
it was tough. But if we take the learnings from
that tour and translate them into the World Cup, and
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you know, obviously we've got Australia before that as well,
you know, it's you know, I think it's actually pretty
promising for us. But yeah, very tough Australia first, then
the World Cup and then India. So again for the
white ferns a really really tough period of cricket.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
How do you how do you combine all the calendar?
Scott when it comes to you said the matrix, I mean, gee,
was it just must be layer upon layer upon layer
because it's not even talking about a domestic teams, our
age group teams as well.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
It's really challenging. And you know, I know that the
World Cricketers Association is looking to come out with their
views and even a proposal on windows, and I must
be I am a supporter of windows. I think you know,
even Rugby has windows. You know, there is so much
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cricket which is absolutely fantastic and the game's grown really
really quickly. But I think we need to, you know,
both the national associations and also the clubs and themessity
tween leagues need to actually work together to try and
get agree windows because otherwise we're competing against each other.
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And I just don't think we.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Need to who leads that Scott because obviously New Zealand
crickets are voice, but has that got to come from
the icy seat?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, the ICC are obviously a strong voice in the area,
as the MCC as the World Cricketers Association, but also
that you know, the stronger, the more powerful nations such
as the BCCI, ECB and Cricket Australia. You know, everyone
has voices. Some have a louder and stronger voices than others.
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But it's it's really it'll need a coordinated effort where
people are prepared to you know, put some self interest
to the side and try and do what's best for
cricket as a whole.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Thank you very much, Scott. Always good to chat and
appreciate you being available on Friday night. It's a really
exciting calendar. As I mentioned through the show, the lines
are up, we've got a chance for recall if you'd
like to bring up oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty before we get to the end of the show.
And on the back of Scott when Nick there, I
mean it is a big challenge now trying to compress
all the calendars with all these franchises, and while it's
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so much money is involved, that's that's part of the problem.
And if you look at the the the Big Bash
in Australia, the second most lucrative tournament for players is
the South African t twenty League now which is at
the start of January. So we've got some players who
aren't willing to take contracts national contracts with New Zealand
because it gives them the friend now Kin Williamson's doing that,
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but we know Caine's fully dedicated to the Black Caps
and it's probably just for this year because after the
Christmas period there's a bit of a gap in our
international calendar when it comes to probably really big relevance.
There's notice cricket Sokine wants to maybe go over and
play in South Africa and it's all those teams over
there are owned by IPL franchise teams, so Mumbai, Bangalore,
they own the teams in South Africa. So the players
(36:43):
get paid exceptionally. Well, that's why they're giving up contracts
with New Zealand Crickets. So they've got the freedom to
be able to move and then they just dove tail in.
But you've got to remember most of our top players
have to be make their name by playing for the
Black Caps. Again, we've got a chance for you if
you want to give me a call. When the lines open,
oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. When we look
(37:03):
at the schedule, the Black Caps play afghanis done Monday night.
They start at four pm. That'll be interesting. I said,
I can't pick my side. I really can't, and I
like to think I know what I'm doing. I can't
pick my side because if I was picking the best
players that I think should play, we'd have three left
arm spinners and Revendra, sat In and Patel and I
just don't know if they're going that. If they pick Bracewalt,
then you've got two off spinners. I do wonder why
(37:24):
you say that he's not there. That's the league spin option.
I think Saudi and Henry will definitely play. But over
the course of they then go and play two Test
matches in Schlanka. We'll see some change. We'll see some change.
Then they go to India for three Test matches. And
I've had a text come in which was quite an
interesting one, asking and saying, we play England back here
at home, how will we go against the English when
(37:45):
we come to Jelland and we'll actually be coming back
from what is it, six Test matches in the subcontinent.
And I had a look actually to that Texter. We
go to Hagley, which is actually known as I think
the bounciest pitch in the world with all the data
that they use. So we're going to go from sub
continent to come back home and we go to Hagley.
(38:07):
So that's going to be a big challenge, but it
really is exciting from a test cricket point of view.
There's lots of challenges when it comes to cricket. I
had a text at the Starter show asking around the
broadcast rights, who has them At the moment, I think
I can confirm that this year it will still be
with TV and Z. I think the original steal which
went to Spark was for six years. I could be
(38:28):
wrong in five. If it's five, this would be the
last year. Next year, I'm pretty sure it six was
one more. So'll be on TV and Z this year
and also Duke so free to wear, which is wonderful
for our game. More good luck than good management. And
then after that, well, as we know with TV rights,
it's going to be a really big challenge to know
(38:50):
where it's going to end up. Obviously Sky's in the background.
They used to have it for close to twenty years,
so that's going to keep us so in Hagley. It's
certainly going to be interesting and this had takes around
the refereeing are brought up about the Sam Cane tackle
on Calisi and broke his nose. They had to do
(39:12):
a fitness test with him through the week and he
passed it, but should have been a red card.
Speaker 7 (39:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I mean, if you go through a game of rugby
and all, honestly, if you go through a game of rugby,
then you can simply find something everywhere. Speaking of rugby,
we've got the MPC on at the moment, and as
I said earlier in the show, I'm really enjoying it.
I'm really enjoying the MPC. I'm just trying to find it.
I'm gonna clicked off it. I know, yeah, I might
have clicked off it. I was going to update you
on the scores there.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It is.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
The game currently being played at the moment. We've got
bayar plenty taken on one or two and at halftime.
If you don't want to know and you're driving home
and you get it on pause or you're going to
watch it, just cover your ears now. But I can
tell you Bay have plenty of found their form. They
are leading one or two by thirty five points to
fourteen at halftime. Wow, they have plenty of kicked into gear.
What do they win their first three games? Then they
(39:59):
went down to my Otago and then they bounce back.
So very high scoring and as I said, I'm enjoying
the rugby being played in the NPC. One I enjoyed
last week watching the Cannabury game when they're out at Rangiora.
That was great seeing them out of the community grounds.
I want to see more of that. I think that's
where we've got to take our game, but we're not
gonna have time to talk about that tonight. Also still
coming up in the NPC over the weekend, Auckland take
(40:22):
on North Harbor. Big battle tomorrow. This might be the
derby round, is it we've got yet? Tomorrow at two
I five pm. This is not a derby, but Wellington
taken on South and Wellington have been impressive. At two
I five pm. Big game down here in Dunedin. It's
the Battle of the South with a Targo taken on
Canterbury and that's at four thirty five pm. And I'm
backing my Targo. Canterbury listeners, I should have said at
(40:43):
the start of the show then you would have called
in when yeah, I reckon Targo's going to knock over
Kennby because you were ordinary last week. And then tomorrow
night we've got a Hawk's Bay who have been in
pressed as well, taken on the very very good Tasman
and then Taranaki taken on White Cattou again, another Ripper
on Sunday County's Manakhao taking on Northland. And then it's
with the storm week they taught midweek at Target take
(41:06):
on Wellington, so that's going to be n PC. Also
in the Fara Parmer Cup. Tomorrow we've got Auckland taken
on Counties Manacal, Northland taken on Canterbury, We've got Tasman
taken on Taranaki, Targo take on Wellington and then one
or two take on North Harbor and y Cato take
on Hawk's Bay. So they are the games in the
(41:27):
Fara Palmer Cup. Since we didn't any callers, I'll just
keep up dating in what we've got coming up also
and the NRL I had that up to of course,
no warriors this weekend. I've got oh my computer, We've
got a new studio down here in Tonedin and that's
where I'm broadcasting from last night the Storm put fifty
points on the Broncos. The Tigers take on the Eels,
(41:48):
and then we've got the Rabbit has taken on the Roosters.
The Dragons take on the Raiders, The Bulldogs take on
the Cowboys. The Panthers, they're going to pull these socks up.
They're taken on the Titans. The Seagulls take on the Sharks,
and then the Knights take on the Dolphins. That will
be interesting because the Dolphins could make the top eight,
but they're going to take on the Nights. And Wayne
Bennett's old side is not that popular dem which is
(42:10):
not what you say very often. We're about Wayne Bennett
and that's us up to date. And I think we've
got a bit of music in the background as we're
going to head through to New Sporting Weather here on
News Talks.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
M B.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Thank you very much for your company, Thanks for those calls.
I say, can't wait for the All Black Game this weekend.
I'm going to get up. I'm going to get up actually,
and I'm gonna watch and I'm going to pack. Here
we go for all those people out there who wants
some expertise. Your Blacks are going to win by nine.
There we go, set it and then it's going to
be a tough test match for the black Caps against
Afghanistan on Monday nights and great viewing starts at four pm,
(42:43):
and that's going to be a start of a wonderful
period of time for test credit, thanks for your company,
thanks to Answer Milicies, New Sporting Weather, and then after that,
Marcus Slush the time has banged.
Speaker 9 (42:52):
On three minutes to seven.
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