September 13, 2024 • 8 mins
The Black Ferns have made world headlines after a group hug with the King.
During their visit to Buckingham Palace ahead of their match at Twickenham, they asked the King for permission, and he granted it.
Prop Kate Henwood spoke to D'Arcy Waldegrave on Sportstalk about what it was like.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks edb SO Now.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On News talksb Sports Talk by Kate Henwardly said, prop
for the Ferns who are taking on England nearly ours
of Sunday morning. Excuse me over at Twickenham, Kate, Welcome
to the program. Great to chat. I suppose first up
we must address the ruckus at Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Talk us through that and the experience with the King.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, I'm a ruckus is a.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Good word for it. I yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It probably started off all serious, but as the girls
got talking, it just kind of, like you said, our
personalities came out and it turned into a black Ferns party.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The reaction has been astonishing, hasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's gone global, it'd say, viral, and I think the
big response out of this a lot of people saying, wow,
King Charles is actually human, his reaction, his response probably
the best bit of pr to ever come out of
Buckingham Pallace.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But for you on the ground, what's the reaction like
being over there, Cake?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, I think everything's been pretty positive.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
But like you, like you touched on even when we
were there that the King towards us. We realized pretty
quickly he was pretty human. I guess it was the
word you use. He I guess he's the way he
talked and carried on. We sort of, I guess, got
the feeling that, you know, that Asha could ask for
(01:43):
a hug.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What about the build up?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How planned was this, this group hug with his Royal Highness.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, we obviously got welcomed in. It was pretty surreal
driving through the gate. I guess, you know, people lined
up outside we sort of realized, I guess if we
hadn't already, how special it was to be invited in there.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So that was the start of it. And then I
guess driving in and looking around.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It driving in, Yeah, it all started kind of feeling
a bit surreal, really, And then we got in about
five minutes before the King came in. We were getting
having lessons on how to curtsy. We all felt pretty
(02:41):
relaxed up until that point. And then yeah, I guess
he came in and did the realm with the girls
who were in kind of small groups, and as he
went round he yeah, like I said, the girls probably
took his lead about how natural and comfortable he.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Was to where that that's why that led to that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
All right, enough about the Royals, it's focus on the
point at hand, that, of course, is massive game one
thirty X time on that Sunday morning at twickin' them
up against the English Roses. And talking to you before
this interview, you said after that w XV final you're
basically embarrassed. So I'm presuming you've been carrying that feeling
(03:25):
right the way through and you'll release that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Come twicking them on Sunday morning.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yes, definitely, I guess after the World Cup and all
of that hights when the girls won won the World Cup,
to then roll into a game where we underperformed, it's
definitely been in the back of our minds ever since.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That's what we trained towards to this next moment.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What did you pull out of that game? What did
you determine after that loss? Have you managed to put
your finger on anything?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
To be fair?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think like myself, like I had never obviously played
against them before, and a lot of the girls were
new and we had new coaches as well and that
and so a lot of those girls, you know, it
wasn't the whole World Cup team that played again, and.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So for some of us, that was the first time experience.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Playing it, you know, at that level, and I think, yeah,
just with the changes of where we're heading to, we
probably were just on the start of our journey, you know,
the re regeneration for the next World Cup, so it
was kind of a whole lot of changes like that,
and given girls a go early on, that probably led.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
To that hugely valuable experience for everyone concerned, the younger
ones and people like yourself younger to the national side,
but you started your career with the Ferns slightly later
on the piece. So out of that game for yourself,
Kate him would what particularly did you pick up?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah? I think for me probably was just the first
look at well this is this is at that, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Like, this is the level we need to be.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I'd obviously debuted a few games before that against
teams that we're obviously not as tough as England was,
so then year playing that I was.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Just realized, oh, yes, I've got lots of work to do.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, especially up against the key strength of England, which
is their pack and up there on the front row
that's where the dark arts are practiced and that's where
you are. Is it too much to suggest that that
defeat in your experience, Kate was a bit of a
slap in the face.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It was definitely a wake up call for Yeah, I
guess myself being quite new, and probably some of the
other girls who hadn't, like I said, hadn't been there before,
probably got a slap in the face of well, you know,
England's moved on from the World Cup and we, you know,
we obviously haven't.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's quite a tough thing to say for you and
your team, Kate. A difficult thing to admit.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, I think it's probably at the time, Like like
I said, personally, at the time, I wouldn't have thought that.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
But but being the real you know, personally, I realized, oh, yeah,
I've got heaps of work to do for this, you know,
to get up to this level.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
As you carry on developing, Kate, where do you think
your biggest work on area is?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Where do you think you've got the most room to develop?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think probably just yeah, probably just.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Experience in those high pressure situations.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Have you never probably experienced that before? Yeah? Probably probably
just the experience of it. I would say it's.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
A long way from a porta key, isn't it all
the way to twerking them? And there's a potential this
could be the biggest crowd for a game of rugby
between women's teams.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's that's ever recurred. It's been much.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Time talking about that or or thinking about that with
the other other athletes.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yes, and though I guess we prepare really well for
that sort of stuff, But I think you know, at
the end of the day, to be honest, you just
kind of blanket all out when you're on the field.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Anyway, you cut, you know, you can't, you're you're in
the zone. You don't. You don't I guess notice any
of that around you?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, I know, eighty thousand plus people, we can hardly
not notice that date.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, I think. I mean, obviously I haven't been there,
so I don't know. But I guess there.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Will be parts like a national anthem, that sort of stuff,
doing the h I guess where you probably feel this is.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You know, the moment will probably get to heah. You
know this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But once once, once the whistle goes in here into
the game, that that all fades out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News talks.
There'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the sports Talk podcast with Dancy Wildergrave
from News Talks edb SO Now.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On News talksb Sports Talk by Kate Henwardly said, prop
for the Ferns who are taking on England nearly ours
of Sunday morning. Excuse me over at Twickenham, Kate, Welcome
to the program. Great to chat. I suppose first up
we must address the ruckus at Buckingham Palace.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Talk us through that and the experience with the King.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, I'm a ruckus is a.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Good word for it. I yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It probably started off all serious, but as the girls
got talking, it just kind of, like you said, our
personalities came out and it turned into a black Ferns party.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
The reaction has been astonishing, hasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's gone global, it'd say, viral, and I think the
big response out of this a lot of people saying, wow,
King Charles is actually human, his reaction, his response probably
the best bit of pr to ever come out of
Buckingham Pallace.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
But for you on the ground, what's the reaction like
being over there, Cake?
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, I think everything's been pretty positive.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
But like you, like you touched on even when we
were there that the King towards us. We realized pretty
quickly he was pretty human. I guess it was the
word you use. He I guess he's the way he
talked and carried on. We sort of, I guess, got
the feeling that, you know, that Asha could ask for
(01:43):
a hug.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
What about the build up?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
How planned was this, this group hug with his Royal Highness.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Well, we obviously got welcomed in. It was pretty surreal
driving through the gate. I guess, you know, people lined
up outside we sort of realized, I guess if we
hadn't already, how special it was to be invited in there.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So that was the start of it. And then I
guess driving in and looking around.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It driving in, Yeah, it all started kind of feeling
a bit surreal, really, And then we got in about
five minutes before the King came in. We were getting
having lessons on how to curtsy. We all felt pretty
(02:41):
relaxed up until that point. And then yeah, I guess
he came in and did the realm with the girls
who were in kind of small groups, and as he
went round he yeah, like I said, the girls probably
took his lead about how natural and comfortable he.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Was to where that that's why that led to that.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
All right, enough about the Royals, it's focus on the
point at hand, that, of course, is massive game one
thirty X time on that Sunday morning at twickin' them
up against the English Roses. And talking to you before
this interview, you said after that w XV final you're
basically embarrassed. So I'm presuming you've been carrying that feeling
(03:25):
right the way through and you'll release that.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Come twicking them on Sunday morning.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yes, definitely, I guess after the World Cup and all
of that hights when the girls won won the World Cup,
to then roll into a game where we underperformed, it's
definitely been in the back of our minds ever since.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
That's what we trained towards to this next moment.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What did you pull out of that game? What did
you determine after that loss? Have you managed to put
your finger on anything?
Speaker 5 (04:01):
To be fair?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I think like myself, like I had never obviously played
against them before, and a lot of the girls were
new and we had new coaches as well and that
and so a lot of those girls, you know, it
wasn't the whole World Cup team that played again, and.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
So for some of us, that was the first time experience.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Playing it, you know, at that level, and I think, yeah,
just with the changes of where we're heading to, we
probably were just on the start of our journey, you know,
the re regeneration for the next World Cup, so it
was kind of a whole lot of changes like that,
and given girls a go early on, that probably led.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
To that hugely valuable experience for everyone concerned, the younger
ones and people like yourself younger to the national side,
but you started your career with the Ferns slightly later
on the piece. So out of that game for yourself,
Kate him would what particularly did you pick up?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah? I think for me probably was just the first
look at well this is this is at that, do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Like, this is the level we need to be.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And I'd obviously debuted a few games before that against
teams that we're obviously not as tough as England was,
so then year playing that I was.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Just realized, oh, yes, I've got lots of work to do.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, especially up against the key strength of England, which
is their pack and up there on the front row
that's where the dark arts are practiced and that's where
you are. Is it too much to suggest that that
defeat in your experience, Kate was a bit of a
slap in the face.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
It was definitely a wake up call for Yeah, I
guess myself being quite new, and probably some of the
other girls who hadn't, like I said, hadn't been there before,
probably got a slap in the face of well, you know,
England's moved on from the World Cup and we, you know,
we obviously haven't.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
It's quite a tough thing to say for you and
your team, Kate. A difficult thing to admit.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, I think it's probably at the time, Like like
I said, personally, at the time, I wouldn't have thought that.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
But but being the real you know, personally, I realized, oh, yeah,
I've got heaps of work to do for this, you know,
to get up to this level.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
As you carry on developing, Kate, where do you think
your biggest work on area is?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Where do you think you've got the most room to develop?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I think probably just yeah, probably just.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Experience in those high pressure situations.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Have you never probably experienced that before? Yeah? Probably probably
just the experience of it. I would say it's.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
A long way from a porta key, isn't it all
the way to twerking them? And there's a potential this
could be the biggest crowd for a game of rugby
between women's teams.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It's that's ever recurred. It's been much.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Time talking about that or or thinking about that with
the other other athletes.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yes, and though I guess we prepare really well for
that sort of stuff, But I think you know, at
the end of the day, to be honest, you just
kind of blanket all out when you're on the field.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
Anyway, you cut, you know, you can't, you're you're in
the zone. You don't. You don't I guess notice any
of that around you?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Well, I know, eighty thousand plus people, we can hardly
not notice that date.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, I think. I mean, obviously I haven't been there,
so I don't know. But I guess there.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Will be parts like a national anthem, that sort of stuff,
doing the h I guess where you probably feel this is.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
You know, the moment will probably get to heah. You
know this is crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
But once once, once the whistle goes in here into
the game, that that all fades out.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
For more from Sports Talk, listen live to News talks.
There'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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