September 25, 2024 • 5 mins
Black Caps bowler Will O'Rourke is the team's latest breakout success.
After only 3 tests, the lofty paceman has collected 19 wickets at 15.5.
He joined D'Arcy to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be talking cricket now and we're joined by Will
O'Rourke who's had while a whale of a time over
in gall In fact, since picking up a ball and
international cricket, you've already put a foot wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Will.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's pretty easy this Test cricket stuffn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Mate. I wouldn't go and go that far. I think
I've had a decent start, I mean, lucky enough to
pick up a few wickets. But you know, it comes
and comes in ways, I think. So you know tough
times will come.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Prepare yourself for the bad times because they will turn up.
It's the thing about cricket, isn't it. It can be so
wonderful and it could be then absolute harshest task master
when it once.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the that's the beauty of it.
That's why we love playing it. I think so tough,
so tough to get those results, but you know when
they come, and hopefully they do come, it's so special.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You played over there and you've picked up a couple
of big bags of wickets on a deck that people
really didn't think you would have much effect on it.
It's a tweaker's deck. What did you consider going into
this when you played? How did you go about your
business and go, this is what I'm going to do
and this is how it's going to work. It's quite
(01:20):
a plan.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I think it started from when we lost the tasks.
I think both teams obviously wanted to have a bat
but as a pace by that was probably when we
were going to get the best time to bowl. So
the deck was recently hard and it was a good,
good carry going through, so I was encouraging enough for
us to run in and try hit the deck hard,
and there were a few few rewards there.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
For us, and so you were given that. You just
do what you want. You think you can get something
out of it, You stick it in wherever you can.
You're a free reign there will.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, I guess I've been asked to bring some energy,
running hard, try and try hit the deck hard, and
I guess I'm unsettled a few people. So yeah, with
short sharp spells like it is over here to zone
in for four overs and try giving you best.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The way you bowled to a number of the players
when you were stressing them with those shorter deliveries. So
you're happy to carry on. I won't say it was
Neil Wagner because he just didn't stop doing that, but
you're you're comfortable picking up rond where you did well,
sorry dropping it short where you did.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I think my natural length, naturally is a little
bit shorter than what most people are. But yeah, as
I said, I think Gary and Jake being over here
have just asked me to be myself, and that's to
try running hard, and that means I'm slightly on the
shorter side. It's probably probably tougher to play than if
I was really trying to get it up there and
I was going floating forward it. So yeah, I think
(02:44):
it's just playing my own game.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Like some of the balls you put outside and up
outside of the off stick and they stayed out there
and you left players reaching and of course getting out
as a direct result. That shows a little bit of
spine to do that, to leave it out there like that.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think, yeah, with my natural angle coming back and
that one that sort of holds its liners could potentially
be the danger ball. And I think with you, when
I'm hanging out in quite a lot, maybe three or
four balls in a row that one that holds this
line as well as it could easily go to the
fence before. It's a good work at taking opportunity. So thanks,
just balancing, balancing how you want to go about it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Strike me as a particularly laid back individual, will I roll?
Because this always been the case of you always been
this kind of dude that's for here to being interviewed
in post matches and it's like I thought you were dead.
You were so relaxed. Is this the way you roll?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, I'm quiet a side, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't
say always chill and relax, you know, the nerves the
nerves are still there and stuff like that. But I
think i'd truck eave a pretty mellow most of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Where's the room for improvement to yourself? Relatively young in
your test career and we I hope that it goes
on for a long time. You being super hard on yourself.
Where would you look to improvement? What don't you like
about the what you're doing at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think it's heaps this heaps to work on and
I think a lot of the time last test, like
you said, I was probably a bit shorter than where
I'd ultimately want to be. I think I think I
got saved a bit by my line just hangling it
back and sort of made it difficult. But if I
was hard on myself, I think it's just bringing that consistency.
I think if you look at my pitch map, there's
(04:25):
the EH ball all over the place all the time.
So yeah, if I was being really hard on myself,
I think I think just begetting that consistency piece going
would probably be my biggest area of improvement.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, I joining us, what do you need to lift
you think ahead of this second test? And is it
ideal to stay on in the same ground to stay
in goal. It's only a short turnaround, but I suppose
you're not traveling, so it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I think I think it could potentially be a
good thing for us to be on the same surface.
Obviously we've seen seeing what this one did, and now
now we're prepared for that and we know we know
what's going to happen. I think, yeah, the boys are
pretty disappointed not to get over the line. I think
we had opportunities in the game. We're where we could
have put the foot on the throne and maybe taken
it away from them, and we didn't quite get it right.
(05:11):
So I think I think it's just those key moments again,
just to try to take those as they come and
hopefully we'll be on the other side of it next time.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncy Wildergrave
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be talking cricket now and we're joined by Will
O'Rourke who's had while a whale of a time over
in gall In fact, since picking up a ball and
international cricket, you've already put a foot wrong.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Will.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It's pretty easy this Test cricket stuffn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Mate. I wouldn't go and go that far. I think
I've had a decent start, I mean, lucky enough to
pick up a few wickets. But you know, it comes
and comes in ways, I think. So you know tough
times will come.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Prepare yourself for the bad times because they will turn up.
It's the thing about cricket, isn't it. It can be so
wonderful and it could be then absolute harshest task master
when it once.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Yeah, exactly, I think that's the that's the beauty of it.
That's why we love playing it. I think so tough,
so tough to get those results, but you know when
they come, and hopefully they do come, it's so special.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You played over there and you've picked up a couple
of big bags of wickets on a deck that people
really didn't think you would have much effect on it.
It's a tweaker's deck. What did you consider going into
this when you played? How did you go about your
business and go, this is what I'm going to do
and this is how it's going to work. It's quite
(01:20):
a plan.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I think it started from when we lost the tasks.
I think both teams obviously wanted to have a bat
but as a pace by that was probably when we
were going to get the best time to bowl. So
the deck was recently hard and it was a good,
good carry going through, so I was encouraging enough for
us to run in and try hit the deck hard,
and there were a few few rewards there.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
For us, and so you were given that. You just
do what you want. You think you can get something
out of it, You stick it in wherever you can.
You're a free reign there will.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, I guess I've been asked to bring some energy,
running hard, try and try hit the deck hard, and
I guess I'm unsettled a few people. So yeah, with
short sharp spells like it is over here to zone
in for four overs and try giving you best.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
The way you bowled to a number of the players
when you were stressing them with those shorter deliveries. So
you're happy to carry on. I won't say it was
Neil Wagner because he just didn't stop doing that, but
you're you're comfortable picking up rond where you did well,
sorry dropping it short where you did.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, I think my natural length, naturally is a little
bit shorter than what most people are. But yeah, as
I said, I think Gary and Jake being over here
have just asked me to be myself, and that's to
try running hard, and that means I'm slightly on the
shorter side. It's probably probably tougher to play than if
I was really trying to get it up there and
I was going floating forward it. So yeah, I think
(02:44):
it's just playing my own game.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Like some of the balls you put outside and up
outside of the off stick and they stayed out there
and you left players reaching and of course getting out
as a direct result. That shows a little bit of
spine to do that, to leave it out there like that.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think, yeah, with my natural angle coming back and
that one that sort of holds its liners could potentially
be the danger ball. And I think with you, when
I'm hanging out in quite a lot, maybe three or
four balls in a row that one that holds this
line as well as it could easily go to the
fence before. It's a good work at taking opportunity. So thanks,
just balancing, balancing how you want to go about it.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Strike me as a particularly laid back individual, will I roll?
Because this always been the case of you always been
this kind of dude that's for here to being interviewed
in post matches and it's like I thought you were dead.
You were so relaxed. Is this the way you roll?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, I'm quiet a side, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't
say always chill and relax, you know, the nerves the
nerves are still there and stuff like that. But I
think i'd truck eave a pretty mellow most of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Where's the room for improvement to yourself? Relatively young in
your test career and we I hope that it goes
on for a long time. You being super hard on yourself.
Where would you look to improvement? What don't you like
about the what you're doing at the moment.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think it's heaps this heaps to work on and
I think a lot of the time last test, like
you said, I was probably a bit shorter than where
I'd ultimately want to be. I think I think I
got saved a bit by my line just hangling it
back and sort of made it difficult. But if I
was hard on myself, I think it's just bringing that consistency.
I think if you look at my pitch map, there's
(04:25):
the EH ball all over the place all the time.
So yeah, if I was being really hard on myself,
I think I think just begetting that consistency piece going
would probably be my biggest area of improvement.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, I joining us, what do you need to lift
you think ahead of this second test? And is it
ideal to stay on in the same ground to stay
in goal. It's only a short turnaround, but I suppose
you're not traveling, so it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, I think I think it could potentially be a
good thing for us to be on the same surface.
Obviously we've seen seeing what this one did, and now
now we're prepared for that and we know we know
what's going to happen. I think, yeah, the boys are
pretty disappointed not to get over the line. I think
we had opportunities in the game. We're where we could
have put the foot on the throne and maybe taken
it away from them, and we didn't quite get it right.
(05:11):
So I think I think it's just those key moments again,
just to try to take those as they come and
hopefully we'll be on the other side of it next time.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
For more from sports Talk, listen live to News Talks
it'd be from seven pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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