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McDonald is producing the show. We are here until eight
to talk some sport with you. It is fair to
say there was some fairly ordinary cricket played by the
black Caps Gaul over the weekend. They lost the Second
Test against Sri Lanka by an innings and one hundred
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and fifty four runs, having been bowled out for just
eighty eight in their first innings and replied to Sri
Lanka's six hundred and two for five, declared just four
times in the entire history of Test match cricket. That's
two thousand, five hundred and fifty two tests. Only four
times has there been a bigger first innings lead than that.
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There was a bit of fight in us in the
second dig which was good, but a victory well inside
four days for Sri Lanka, who consigned the Black Caps
to a fourth consecutive Test defeat doesn't get any easier either.
They next play India in three matches over their three
Test matches, that is, starting in mid October, and then
England arrive here for three Test matches before Christmas. Despite
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also losing the first Test. We were actually reasonably good,
I thought for large parts of the first game. So
what happened in the second Test? One of New Zealand's
closest and most astute cricket observers, as Dylan Cleave, it
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Edb beautifully ball the speed, the trajectory.
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Was outstanding to see Little Satner has it apart. Top
scores are Something's twenty nine, bold are umparious Zelan all
out for eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The back Caps have suffered a fourth consecutive Test loss
after an innings and one hundred and fifty four run
defeat to Sri Lanka in their second match in Gaal.
As mentioned, match scores Sri Lanka six hundred and two
for five declared batting first, New Zealand all out for
eighty eight and then three hundred and sixty. Let's bring
in multi award winning journalist, member of the BYC podcast
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and producer of the excellent subscriber newsletter The Bounce, Dylan Cleaver. Dylan,
as I just said, I thought New Zealand fought quite
hard and played quite well actually for significant parts of
the first Test, but apart from a bit of middle
laughterer backbone in the second innings, the second Test was
pretty much devoid of positives for me. Can you think
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of any positives from the second Test?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I can come up with one, and that's not even
a positive ready. It's a negative that I'm going to
try and turn into a positive, and that would be
to say they lost the toss on both tests. And
it's difficult in that being, for want of a better term,
being an Anglo team and going and playing in the continent.
It's tough these days. It's even tougher when you lose
both passes. That is the sole excuse that's out of
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the way now. The rest of it in that second
Test was horrible and that surprised me to an extent
because they actually played better in that first Test than
I thought they would, particularly having lost that Test against
Afghanistan that was meant to be played in India. Having
lost that, I thought that was really going to put
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them on the back foot. They played pretty well in
gaul in the first Test, missed a couple of opportunities
to even sneak a win there, but that second test
was putrid?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So what happened, Dylan? What happened to the black Caps
between the first test, which I agree they had large
parts of really impressive stuff in and the second test
which really, as you say, I think putrid's a pretty
good word.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Yeah. I was really disappointed they made no changes. I
thought that there were a capital players short of form,
noticeably short.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Of form in.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Gaul in the first test, and I thought maybe spicing
things up knowing that, I think you've got to treat
these series in isolation, and this was a chance to
get to one all in a series. But instead, to me,
it looks like they're always thinking ahead. They're always thinking
big picture. They know they've got to go to India
and play three tests, so they felt that it was
more fantageous for looking ahead to that to play the
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same eleven. But I just I don't get that thinking.
My great fear is this team has become a no
accountability team. Now there's no penalty. Players are allowed to
fail fail, fail, fail, knowing that there's going to be
no you know, they're not going to be dropped, And
I think that I think that's mistaken And I wrote
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this yesterday, so apologies for repeating myself, but I think
that's mistaken loyalty and inactivity for strategy.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, it was one of my favorite lines in your newsletter,
and you carried on, which begs the question, if you're
not coaching and there's no sign of that and you're
not selecting, what are you actually doing except wearing team
issue gear and putting out cones. Do we need a
change of coach.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, it's not the New Zealand way though, and I
think Gary's dead, to be fair to him, had built
up enough credit. There's a guy that's taken New Zealand
into the pointy ends of white ball tournaments. There's a
guy that's taken New Zealand to the World Pest Championship.
I think he had enough credit in the bank to
get a contract extension. Having said that, things look awfully stale,
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the entire New Zealand cricket scene just seems a bit
stale and moribund at the moment, and I think that's.
You know, there's partly to do with the high performance
setup and the fact that there's no real motivation for
the domestic cricketers. They don't feel like there's a way
into the Black Caps, and there's some retires because they're
so set in the stone. I think something needs to change,
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whether it's attitude and all, whether it's strategic, whether it's
more than the finer practical details. It feels awfully style
at the moment, and I think it's even reflected in
the fielding. New Zealand used to be one of the
best building units in the world. I think you might
put them up there with Australia South Africa. There was
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no one better. Now I have to look at that
team play and think they are and this sounds like hyperboctly,
but it's actually not. When you look at the Drop Catchers,
I think they're one of the sloppiest building teams in
the world and that cannot be with New Zealand teams.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So to get out of this FuG that we're in
at the moment, is it necessary to change personnel, to
have widespread changes of personnel or do you believe that
the players who are currently there can undergo a change
of attitude and get themselves back to to where they
need to be.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't think New Zealan can ever do widespread changes
in personnel because there's just not the talent pool there.
But I do think there needs to be more accountability.
I don't think you can have it. And it sounds
like I'm going to pick on a capital players here,
and certainly they are good players, they are there for
a reason. But I don't think you can have your
Henry Nichols failing for nineteen test andings in a row
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before they do something about it. You're Devin Conway's failing
to fifteen tests ands in a row before I do
something about it. Even your captain Tim Souby, who is
now I think bold sixteen innings without taking a three
wicket bag. And these are long stretches where you're essentially
playing people in eleven man game who are not contributing.
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I think there needs to be more sharp eyed selection,
whether that means widening your pool that you're picked from.
There will be sound humans to this effects team harmony
and continuity, but I think we've done that for a
long time now in New Zealanders at the Staley end
of that whole extreme loyalty thing, and something needs to
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be shaken up a little.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Tim Southy is a very interesting case for me because
he seems to have given up on batting, how m
much of a lost course. Something might be you shouldn't
just go out there and swing wildly across the lines
if you put a price on your wicket. The other
part of it, Dylan is in Asia, you pick what
two seam is probably your fastest and your best, and
he's neither right now. But he's the captain.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yeah, so I would have rested him for the second
Test before the squads were picked for Sri Lanka. They
did make it pretty fair that Tim was unlikely to
play all six Tests, which was reduced to vibe with
the lost of the Afghanist then one he was unlucky
to play all six Tests during this Asian swing. I
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would have thought that second Test was time for him
to recharge, to give someone else a chance to lead
that team, to put someone alongside will I Walk that
could either partner him with a few thunderbolts in a
best Ben Sears or Matt Henry, who was do you
believe the bowler of the series when Australia came here
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last summer. But yeah, they went with the same eleven
they did in the first Test, and sin Salia again
was relatively in effect, they've picked up a wicket in
his first over, and I mean things may have changed
if Darren which had held on to what was that
very very easy chance of per slip of will I
walk early on, that would have put tink a ten
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to two, and maybe the confection of that Test changed
a little bit. But you look at it, I mean,
what do they rack up six hundred and two for five.
That's pretty damning indictment on any bowling attack.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Really, how worried should we be about Devin Conway year?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Relatively worried. I know there has been a little bit
of narrative following that Test. There at least they showed
some spine in the second innings and a plus three
hundred score and subcontinent conditions I guess indicates that they
did something right. But I placed very very little stuff
on that when you're following on and absolutely hopeless caused
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shrillingk All. All they needed to do was take the
field and they were going to win that Test by
a mile eventually. So the New Zealand has had a
little bit of funnel on the way. I just treated
it slightly more like an open wicket session and tried
out some things and bought it quite nicely. But it's
about as low pressure as test crickets can get, so
I don't put a lot of stock on any run
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scored during that innings, and Devin did. He got it
sixty odd, but there are certain technical things going on
that I'm just surprised how often he gets beaten on
the inside the edge. He's a good player, and I'm
surprised how long it's taking him to figure that out,
it feels. I mean, I'm not having coach, but just watching.
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I've watched enough cricket to know that he just looks
so closed off and is unable to get to those
balls that ankle in towards him, and I would have
thought were good coaching around him, and being such a
fine player and having such good eye hand coordination, he
would have figured it out a little better by now.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just to finish, they'll come home, I presume briefly, and
then head back over for three tests against India. How
should we as cricket fans approach these tests with a
degree of trepidation?
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Would you say in trepidation was the exact word I've
going to pull out there? So you beat me to it? Yeah,
I look in your magnificent team in home conditions Ashwyn
and Jadasia have had New Zealand's number in the past.
I would be extremely careful. I know that's not particularly
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positive mindset to take into anything. And Hope springs eternal
usually and went there I think in their last test tour,
and they clang on for a drawer in the first
test that I think reach and Ravendra maybe in one
of those very first tests, made a battling nineteen nine
out to save the test late. So I mean, yeah,
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Hope springs Eternal. But having said that, watching the last
four days in Gaul didn't fill you with a lot
of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I appreciate your time Dylan as always, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
God funny, thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Mate, that's Dylan Clever. Keen to hear from you now
that Dylan's giving us as excellent and articulate views on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number your
explanations and if you've got them, your solutions. How did
things fall so badly in the space of a week
on the same deck. Let's not forget both played at Gaul,
probably different wicket, but same conditions. We showed fight in
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the first Test, and despite the defeat, there was a
bit to like in the first Test. I thought, well
O'Rourke's bowling, a Jaspertel's bowling, the top orders, relatively solid
batting in the first innings and Rutchian ravender is batting
in the second innings. But as Dylan said then, there
was very little to enthuse about in the second Test.
The bare face facts are these. In the same game
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we conceded our highest ever Test in in score against
Sri Lanka and then slumped to our lowest ever Test
inings or against them. This was an absolute thrashing and
the relative safety of white ball cricket, where mediocrity can
be papered over by the quick, fine nature of the
shorter forms of the game. The safety of white ball
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cricket is still three months away. We've got six Test
matches before the end of the year. Our red reputation
is on the line. Just what three years after we
were World Test champions. As mentioned, there was a bit
of second innings grit there yesterday, especially in the middle
lader Tom Blundell, Glenfhill, Mitchell sand All mate fifties, even
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ahs Ptel digging in for nearly an hour to make
a nuisance of himself at number ten. But by contrast,
the site of the captain coming in at number nine
swinging wildly across the line to be bowled by Jayas
Siria wasn't very palatable at all, regardless of the match situation,
no matter how hopeless it may seem, at the very
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very very least, put a price on your wicket. Don't
throw on the towel, specially if you're captain. Which brings
me to this, there really needs to be a re
examination of the Test captain see when we're on the Subcontinent,
and not just because to South he seems to be,
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you know, unable to bat anymore or has given up
any pretense of wanting to bat properly in Red Bull cricket.
Let's focus on what he is there for. Seam bowling. Now,
more often than not in the Subcontinent, you load up
on spinners and plages two seamers, So you need to
pick your quickest bowler and your best bowler. As I
said to Dylan tim southe is neither of those. So
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the omission of Matt Henry from the playing eleven here
is utterly baffling to me. The last time Matt Henry
bowldon Test cricket was against Australia at the end of
our home summer. He took five for seventy and three
for thirty six on the first Test of the basin,
then seven for sixty seven and two for ninety four
in the second Test at Hackley. Seventeen wickets at fifteen
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point seven easily our best bowl are probably the best
across both sides, and I know it was on seem
friendly pitches here. But while Matt Henry was taking seventeen wickets,
Tim Soudy took four in those two Tests at an
average of sixty one. On top of that, Henry also
contributed some handy runs. He averaged over twenty five across
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the series. Sow The averaged eight and a half. But
Matt Henry was the man left out of the Sri
Lankan Tests because Tim Southy's the captain. Imagine taking seven
fat and and inning's against Australia no matter where it's
been played, and him being dropped for the next Test.
Matt Henry has to play against India and if that
means a change your captain, then so beet.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 7 (17:29):
Hello, David, Well, you've taken the words right out of
my mouth a sortly. I think Salva's got to go.
And I have Blunderer's captain, that Cain Williams, and you know,
try and get his form back. And there's there's bowls
around like Jacob duffy orson down south there and gosh
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that at that time good crooked. But so you know,
and not only that, I think we've got to have
a look at the coaching. I mean outfielding. I remember
back in the day is like Bruce Egger was one
of the best fielders outfielders ever, and we had we
had guys on the slips that could catch. I mean,
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imagine how many work its Richard had that he wouldn't
have got if he couldn't catch.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Look Jeremy Jeremy Coney, David, you know a number of
slip catches. Jeremy Coney took off off Sir Richard's bowling.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Broth Ico that he did this run out at the
MCG I think it was Dean Jones and he just
threw this bullet from the boundary and Jones couldn't I
think it was Dean Gimes. He just couldn't believe it.
But he had an arm And I mean, you know,
hum and John right open, you know. But they they
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were playing with ticker and their fieldry was brilliant. We
went one as the best fielding side.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Now we're about to bloody worst.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, it's it's certainly a concern, David, isn't it. And
it feels like it's a it's a symptom of something
a bit deeper. Look, I take your point on a
guy like Jacob Duffy or other young up and coming bowlers,
but in the subcontinent, like I say, you play two
seam bowlers, Okay, if you accept your play two seam bowlers,
then Matt Henry simply must be one of the two.
How can he not be. He's our best seam bowler.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, and the other one was the Goaleri got there?
Oh what is known the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Quick Ben Sears or Henry will I Rockah?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, sorry, but how that's got to go, thanks David.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I I look, I don't want this to be a pilon.
I want to take this on the facts that and
cricket is a game where you can make a fact
based argument. Yes, I know that they're on the subcontinent,
not on the green pictures of New Zealand. But if
you compare Matt Henry's bowling performances against Australia the last
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time we played Test cricket to Tim Southey's, there's no contest.
Seventeen wickets for Henry at an average of fifteen point
seventy one, four wickets for Tim Saudi at an average
of sixty one. There's simply no way based on that
that Matt Henry shouldn't be playing seven twenty seven. Call
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Bang on seven thirty right, let's talk from the cricket Hello,
Kuran and Matt.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Good evening. I think the reason why the Caps, we
might be overreacting a little bit, but the reason why
the Caps just don't win in the Subcontinent is they
don't play enough cricket there. I mean, look, at the
number of Test matches Australia and England get and the
Caps don't even get half that amount. And that is
the reason why they don't win in the squatin that
they play more, they'll win more. Simple as that in
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my opinion.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
On look, it's a very good opinion, and it's actually
a fact. You're right, don't. We don't play enough cricket
there to get used to the conditions. But Karen, I
can't understand why they were pretty good in the first
Test and so bad in the second. Can you unpack
that two days break?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
It's hot. Two days is just not enough between test matches.
There needs to be a minimum of a three day break.
Remember the days then we used to have four or
five days. I know these are professional athletes that get
paid one hundreds and thousands of dollars, but two days
just isn't enough to recover in that heat and humidity.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I wonder them why they didn't make some changes because
they kept exactly the same eleven. Sri Lanka, on the
other hand, made two or three changes to their side.
They've got other other guys over there. Michael Bracewall could
have come in, for example, as the spinning all rounder.
If they thought well O'Rourke was a bit but cooked,
they could have brought Ben Searson. Will Young could have
come into the side in some capacity in the top order.
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You know, the the fatigue thing doesn't match up with
the fact they picked the same for both tastes.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
But Carrie Stead did say something along the lines of
there being a delicate balance between getting them enough overs
and resting them. I think that's what they were trying
to hit, that balance, and that's where they kind of
forgot that fast bowlers do need breaks. And I do
take your point about Michael Bracewell. I don't think he's
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the man put Test cricket though one days. Yes, Will Young,
I don't know what his record is in the subcontinent. Yes,
you've got to start them, you got to give them
a chance, but I don't know how good he will
be or is in the subcontinent. The real taste will
be in India.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Again.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
It's a shame because I wish they got you know,
one practice, practice game or some game time before the
actual Test series starts, but I doubt that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thanks Karan. Yeah, I mean losing the Afghanistan Test certainly
wasn't helpful, was it. That would have been something at
least if that had a bit of time across five
days in that test which was completely washed out as
we know. But you make some good points on stuff,
and I like your level headed thinking, Karan. I really
do you know the I guess the counterpoints to it.
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Like I say, they picked the same team. Matt Henry's
O mission is completely baffling to me. And this is
the problem you strike when you've got a bowler as
your captain, because you know, if if you've got your
top six batters, they pretty much play in all conditions.
Bowler is not so much, especially on the subcontinent. Thanks
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Ran Hey, Steven, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
Get a Jason. Very interesting views and all that coming through.
A few points though, I'd like to bring up. One
point is how many warm up games are they playing
over there? Are they playing any?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
None?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
That well, they had the Afghanistan Test that was almost
even though it was a test match, it didn't count
for any World Test Championship points. So that was I
guess slated as the warm up game. And I mean
we can't control the weather, completely washed out, so these
two test matches and nothing now between between now and
the first test against India starting on the sixteenth of October.
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I think they come home for a bit and then
go back over.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Yeah. See, that doesn't make sense. I mean, you know,
in previous times we at least have one Walmart game,
you know, even a or three or four day game
before you had a test. I mean, it seems a
bit ludicrous. Why are they coming home and not going
to India or this is so important, you know, a
three test series there and playing some Walmart games before
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they played the tests to get a bit climatized and
you know, just get a little bit familiar instead of
just sort of rushing over there and then they're into
a test.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, it seems so logical. Stephen, Maybe they are. I
stand to be corrected. I do recall hearing something over
the last day or so to say that they would
come home in between. But you're right, it seems logical.
They're there anymore. They're in that part of the world anyway.
Nip over to him. Do you play a couple of
three or four day games against some local teams in
similar conditions and you know, and yeah, get yourself ready.
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You remember, remember when we went to Australia for that
highly anticipated to a back end of twenty nineteen, we
played a Boxing Day Test and a couple of other tests,
and we didn't play any warm up games in Australia
at all. We just went straight over there into the
first Test. And I remember thinking at the time, I'll
never do that again. They'll never go into a Test
series against anybody without a bit of a warm up game.
And like I say, they thought Afghanistan might be it.
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But you make a great point. Why wouldn't you start
to have a couple of games. Maybe they are. Maybe
I've maybe I've got that wrong.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Yeah, Jason, can I just and just say one other
thing and then please go?
Speaker 11 (25:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, please no.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
We we hear this all the time, you know. You
know the way they treated a AJS Battel when he
got that you know, got that ten ten wickets in
an innings. Yeah, and we hear it, you know, And
we look at our wickets. They're juiceph gs of pace bowlers, right.
(26:08):
You know, I think it's really time that we encourage
spin bowlers here, that we try to get wickets so
you've got a balance between pace and spin, you know,
I mean you look at the Indian wickets, you know,
you look at your you know, their pace attack there,
they're sort of geared towards having pace and spin. And
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I think that we need to really try and see
what we can do to somehow encourage that we're getting spin,
you know. I mean, and Betel's been treated you know,
so so wrong, you know. I mean, if you look
at any other Test nation, they at least have a spinner,
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a genuine spinner in their team.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know, Australia, Nathan Lyon plays every single Test match, Steven.
It doesn't matter if it's the dirtiest green seam you'll
ever find. Nathan lines in the eleven it doesn't matter.
And they often say, don't they if it seems it'll
spin as well? So you're right about ages. Did you
see that stat he's never taken a Test wicket in
New Zealand?
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Yes, yeah, you've heard that. Yes, incredible, extraordinary, Yeah, And
I mean if you just sorry, probably a lot of
cause wanting to get through just one little, final little
point and then I'll let you go. I think it's
time time for a selection change and coach change, and
(27:33):
I would like to see actually somehow Ian Smith Jeremy
Coney are the past who have got a great eye
that was somehow brought into the Max so they could
help even as a you know, just consultant or something.
You know, we need we need a good shake up.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Good on you, Steven. Great to chat to you, mate,
made some great points. Thanks for calling through, Mat. I't
really appreciate it. H Dan, Thanks for.
Speaker 11 (28:01):
Holding good a party.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
How are you, oh Dan? Good? Mate?
Speaker 11 (28:05):
Good?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What are you thinking about these black Caps? Dan?
Speaker 11 (28:08):
What do I think? I think everyone's made up all
their excuses in the world for them.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
No warm up.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
Games, none of this, none of that. But I think,
as the last call is said, that we need total change.
And I also think that Gary Stead is too close
to Tim Seal thee. You need a different coach in
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there who's going to have a bit of bulls and say, okay, Tim,
it's time to pull the pin and let some youngsters
come in.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I don't think there's unnecessarily a bad thing when a
coach and a captain are well connected. I think of
Mike Essen and Brendan McCallum, they were very much on
the same page. But I'm pretty sure that they could
challenge one another if need be. I think the problem,
you know, is that with what we've seen since the
World Test Championship and players sort of getting older and
this is an aging team, is that the regeneration of
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the team, and Dylan made this point, hasn't gone very
quickly at all. It's it's happened almost, you know, by
by attrition more than anything. Players don't don't feel as
though if they don't play well, they'll they'll they'll be dropped.
And I'm not sure that there are necessarily a whole
bunch of guys wanting to take their places. But yeah,
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it feels like we're stagnating just a little bit, and
and you know, something needs to happen to give us
a bit of our zinback.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I think it does, Poney, And I think you know
that New Zealand holding on to old players too long
and the young generation aren't getting much of the chance,
to be honest, because the old players are just hanging
in there and Gary Stead is just letting them do
what they want.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Thanks for your call down. Always enjoy chatting to you,
particularly on a Monday night.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You start my week off on the right foot. Thanks
for calling through. Yeah, Look, this is, as I said,
an aging side. I think the only guys in this
eleven who are under thirty are Ruch and Ravendra, Glenn
Phillips and willow' rourke. The eleven that's played these two
Test matches, those are the only three who are under thirty.
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So clearly, over the next couple of years we're going
to strike a situation where a lot of them sort
of finish. At the same time, we'll look back to
the team that won the World Test Championship. We've lost
a bunch of guys from that team as well, you know,
some pretty important guys as well, Ross Taylor, Trent Bolt,
for example. There's two for you, two of our greats,
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our greatest ever players not there anymore. Mark, I mate you.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
It's got stale, you know, and we can see that
things get stale and things go off track.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
It's just I mean, and it's all got winning you coach.
I mean, the min not it's just a betting. It's
letting us down, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's just yeah, I mean, our bowling wasn't great in
the first innings of the second Test either, unfortunately, Mark,
I watched them, you know, in the first Test, they
you know, they hit some bowling changes and O Rourke
looked like he might do something every time he got
the ball. And you know a JS was getting wickets.
He got eight in the first Test, he got in
the second Test, Ajs be held none for one hundred
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and thirty five. So yeah, I don't think anything was
very good in the second Test.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So when you look at we're look at it, I'm
not sure where you start to be fair.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Yeah, you bring out that guy from Canterbury. What was
his name again?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Sorry, will No, the guy.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
You know you've got the sixer for against Australia.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh, Matt Henry. Matt Henry, Yeah, met Henry.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Yeah, crazy, I mean crazy, not starting met Henry. It's
just crazy. Yep, I'm a great we can we can
see it. I mean it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And it's not even like I said before. You know,
when you when we're looking at a couple of selection
things in rugby, you know we talk about whose who
should play, you know, center for the all blacks for example,
there's a lot of argument around you know that is
that is very subjective. But when it comes to cricket,
like I say, if you just even if you just
compare the last Test series, like I say, seventeen wickets
for Henry at fifteen's four for Saudi at sixty one.
(32:32):
You tell me who's the more effective bowler?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Oh yeah, I mean as scenery boy father. Yeah yeah,
I know things need to change. I mean going back
to the spinners. How we don't perform well in India
and trel Anchor and spinners we don't create a sponging
pitch in their environment here That doesn't help. You know,
we're all grain decks hard than fast. You know, maybe
we need to start making spinning decks to for us
(32:59):
to get used to it. You know, So these other ways.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, or near or what we could do is old
spinners regardless of the conditions here because ajs Pttel gets
pot gets pots of wickets in Plunket Shield, he gets
so many Four day wickets, but he never gets he
never gets picked. He never gets picked in Test matches
here in New Zealand. Like I say, Nathan Lion plays
every single game for Australia. Can be the dirtiest green
seamer you'll ever see, and Nathan Lion still plays. You know,
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we sort of like fudget a bit and Sol Mitchell Sentner,
you know, for a long time was our specialist spinner.
He's never going to run through a side, you know.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
But then yeah, there needs to be changed. I think
we'll have them really quick, so it's in the years.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Good on you, Mark, Thanks mate, appreciate your call.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I've got about sixty seconds, mate. What's what's top of
your mind?
Speaker 12 (33:49):
Okay, just a little bit of sat on by me.
I play one hundred and twenty bucks for a seniors
match ticket at the Basin, which I think is quite
expensive for the only entertainment to be the Bamie Army.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Are you talking about the upcoming Test match? Yes, look,
I reckon. I mean to be fair Chris and good satire.
You'd have to hope we'll be better back here. They're
our conditions. We know them a lot better. Even when
we played Australia heat. You know, there were parts of
both Test matches, the one in Wellington and the one
in Christich. We we look really good and I hope
that we'll come back in our own conditions play well.
(34:26):
You know what else? I hope that we bowl, we
play a specialist spinner. I want to bring ags home
and play in those test matches.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
You know, hey agree, I just just on that Australia
made an absolute monkey out of us at our home
conditions in the basin this year that they played Lion,
we didn't play a spinner and they read the pitch
better than us.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good on you, mate. Let's hope for better things when
when England arrived. Appreciate all your calls. Got to get
a breakaway sixteen away from eight news talks, he'd be.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Ladies.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Our rankings they're type for Pinet's Power rankings. Every Monday night.
We rate the best, the worst and everything in between.
From the sporting weekend. Let's go the Black Caps. We've
been talking about them tonight. Totally outclassed in Sri Lanka
and producing one of the worst first and things batting
displays in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Beautifully balled a speed, The trajectory.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Was outstanding to see.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Little Satner has it apart top scorers. Something's twenty nine
bold and they're so furious zill and all out for
eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Nine nine is Johnny Sexton having an almighty winge in
his new book about last year's Rugby World Cup quarter
final defeat of the All Black settlement.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's a pedal got of the old Blacks dead the
finals head egg for.
Speaker 10 (35:53):
The SI Finals.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
According to Johnny Sexton, that should have been an Irish penalty,
and Rico Joanni apparently wasn't very nice to him afterwards.
I'm sure you and the Irish would have been totally
humble if you had won, Johnny, just like you were
when you won down here in twenty twenty two. Move on,
eat the Black Ferns. Back to back defeats, this time
to the Irish and WXV won this afternoon in Vancouver.
Speaker 13 (36:17):
Next time the ball goes dead, it is over.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Gets it in New Zealand. Search for that's right air
bit it warn't matter, Oh, Brian kicks it over that
to Fine added at Islands. Who'd have beat the Black
Ferns and Vancouver? Twenty nine twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Seven World in Ireland. England up next for the Black Ferns.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Manchester United humbled at home by Tottenham in the Premier
League this morning, headed.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
On by Sar, pushed it by Slanky.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Was it and that's the third.
Speaker 14 (36:48):
Goal that should finish this game off for good.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Just two wins in their first six league games. Eric
ten Haggs grip on the manager's job at United getting
more and more tenuous by the day six. The Silver
Ferns close but not close enough. From the tiny Jamison
series opener against England last night.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
That's gonna be game over and England have come to
Auckland had beaten the Silver Ferns by.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
One goal well in England game two Wednesday night in
body to US five into the top half. Five is
the NRL Grand Final we all wanted. It'll be the
Melbourne Storm forty two and away.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
The is a bold stunt Blockbustadada can now Vost's get another.
Speaker 14 (37:32):
Melbourne Red finalists.
Speaker 13 (37:36):
Melbourne are they Premiership favorites based on this?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And the Pentrith Panthers is white.
Speaker 13 (37:43):
The right foot kick Martins an exclamation mark from the
Panthers as they march on to the first Sunday in October.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Blockbuster NRL Grand Final incoming on Sunday Night four. The
All Blacks.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
Fine Mcinzi tixs it over the touch line, the Capital
pairsens and the All Blacks when Sakain's one hundred hiss
final on home soil TJ penan Ara's final on home
soil thirty three thirteen over the Wallabes at Sky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hair breaking the Capitol Curs and ending the Rugby Championship
on a high in Wellington on Saturday night three three
is talked back caller Dallas, who knew the result of
that game in advance. I dremp the score was going
to be thirty three thirteen to the Aabs. For a laugh,
I just put it on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
The score is.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Going to be thirty three thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And it happened, Dellius. I wonder why you went to
Facebook and not the tab I know, but.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
I'm not a thought better if it happens again, yes,
I'll be straight out there.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Two two late conversions. Two of them Harry Godfrey's late
late show for the Magpies against Auckland.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Harry Godfrey SIPs in, strikes it with the right boot,
he Paul goes up. Has he got it?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
He's got it?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
What?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Five on?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
This is outrageous tue relation. There's a pile up of
cattle sports they have stolen at thirty six, thirty five.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And even later than that, Pokeranger winning the under eighty
five kilogram National Club Cup courtesy of Riley Harrison.
Speaker 14 (39:19):
This for thirty five National Club Cup. What a moment
for the young man.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
De Panther's w.
Speaker 14 (39:35):
Depents winning forty five off.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I think he's gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
How many is going with the trophy tonight. I bet
he did. I bet they all did. One one though,
is our man Liam Lawson finally a full time Formula
One drive for our rising motorsport star.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
It now finally does sort of feel real.
Speaker 14 (39:58):
I knew about it for the last sort of two weeks,
but until it's out there to the world, it's it's
obviously he doesn't ever really feel sitting so and I
couldn't tell anybody.
Speaker 9 (40:05):
So it's a very cool feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How do you feel about the Power rankings tonight? Well, Piney,
I see the notable emission entirely of World Roadside Ling
Champion Taday for Garcha. So winning Guero toor de France
and World Chance means nothing to you. I see Piney's
Power rankingsday Facebook. He's got proof, he has got proof,
he has got proof. Hey, just on the cricket before
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we move on. Nathan Lyon we mentioned him before as
a spinner in the Australian side, had forgotten this. He
took ten wickets at the basin last summer four for
forty three and six for sixty five in the first Test,
and we don't make wickets. Play a spinner, play a
jazz at the basin, Play a jaz and all three
Tests go on six and a half to eight, four
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to eight, finishing with a Monday night email from Leon
and Melbourne Piney, I don't think a suffer Solomon is
going to get off his charge for reckless for his
reckless high tackle. Even if they lessen it, he'll still
be suspended for Sunday's Grand Final. He's not a dirty player.
For what transpider that moment was reckless. It's a real
shame because the Kewi enforcer has played consistently well this season.
That said, says Leon, I'm quietly confident the Storm can
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cover his absence as the squad have a lot of depth.
Could be a huge week for the Storm, starting with
the Dally m Wards midweek where Jerome Hughes is one
of the favorites for Player of the Year. But Sunday
is what really matters and I strongly feel the Storm
have been building nicely and peaking at the right time.
It should be a great Grand Final nonetheless totally agree
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with you. Leon. Thank you for your email as always,
and thank you for listening into Sports Talk tonight. It's
back tomorrow evening between seven and eight every weeknight. In fact,
Darcy Watergrave takes over tomorrow through until Friday. We'll be
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Huge thanks to Addie McDonald for producing as always, thank
you for listening in. Marcus Lush is on your radio
(41:57):
after eight o'clock this evening to take you through the
rest of September. When he clocks off, it'll be October.
Hard to believe. See you, Sidney.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
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Not out, Martin Guptel, Jus Glorias. I'm Jason Pine. Andy
McDonald is producing the show. We are here until eight
to talk some sport with you. It is fair to
say there was some fairly ordinary cricket played by the
black Caps Gaul over the weekend. They lost the Second
Test against Sri Lanka by an innings and one hundred
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and fifty four runs, having been bowled out for just
eighty eight in their first innings and replied to Sri
Lanka's six hundred and two for five, declared just four
times in the entire history of Test match cricket. That's
two thousand, five hundred and fifty two tests. Only four
times has there been a bigger first innings lead than that.
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There was a bit of fight in us in the
second dig which was good, but a victory well inside
four days for Sri Lanka, who consigned the Black Caps
to a fourth consecutive Test defeat doesn't get any easier either.
They next play India in three matches over their three
Test matches, that is, starting in mid October, and then
England arrive here for three Test matches before Christmas. Despite
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also losing the first Test. We were actually reasonably good,
I thought for large parts of the first game. So
what happened in the second Test? One of New Zealand's
closest and most astute cricket observers, as Dylan Cleave, it
is whether shortly you unpack it or try to. The
lines are open too, because I am very, very keen
for your views on this and Monday Night, of course
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But please join us on the show if you would
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On the phone. It's the best way eight hundred and
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Speaker 1 (02:41):
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Speaker 4 (02:50):
Edb beautifully ball the speed, the trajectory.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Was outstanding to see Little Satner has it apart. Top
scores are Something's twenty nine, bold are umparious Zelan all
out for eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The back Caps have suffered a fourth consecutive Test loss
after an innings and one hundred and fifty four run
defeat to Sri Lanka in their second match in Gaal.
As mentioned, match scores Sri Lanka six hundred and two
for five declared batting first, New Zealand all out for
eighty eight and then three hundred and sixty. Let's bring
in multi award winning journalist, member of the BYC podcast
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and producer of the excellent subscriber newsletter The Bounce, Dylan Cleaver. Dylan,
as I just said, I thought New Zealand fought quite
hard and played quite well actually for significant parts of
the first Test, but apart from a bit of middle
laughterer backbone in the second innings, the second Test was
pretty much devoid of positives for me. Can you think
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of any positives from the second Test?
Speaker 6 (03:55):
I can come up with one, and that's not even
a positive ready. It's a negative that I'm going to
try and turn into a positive, and that would be
to say they lost the toss on both tests. And
it's difficult in that being, for want of a better term,
being an Anglo team and going and playing in the continent.
It's tough these days. It's even tougher when you lose
both passes. That is the sole excuse that's out of
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the way now. The rest of it in that second
Test was horrible and that surprised me to an extent
because they actually played better in that first Test than
I thought they would, particularly having lost that Test against
Afghanistan that was meant to be played in India. Having
lost that, I thought that was really going to put
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them on the back foot. They played pretty well in
gaul in the first Test, missed a couple of opportunities
to even sneak a win there, but that second test
was putrid?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
So what happened, Dylan? What happened to the black Caps
between the first test, which I agree they had large
parts of really impressive stuff in and the second test
which really, as you say, I think putrid's a pretty
good word.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Yeah. I was really disappointed they made no changes. I
thought that there were a capital players short of form,
noticeably short.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Of form in.
Speaker 6 (05:14):
Gaul in the first test, and I thought maybe spicing
things up knowing that, I think you've got to treat
these series in isolation, and this was a chance to
get to one all in a series. But instead, to me,
it looks like they're always thinking ahead. They're always thinking
big picture. They know they've got to go to India
and play three tests, so they felt that it was
more fantageous for looking ahead to that to play the
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same eleven. But I just I don't get that thinking.
My great fear is this team has become a no
accountability team. Now there's no penalty. Players are allowed to
fail fail, fail, fail, knowing that there's going to be
no you know, they're not going to be dropped, And
I think that I think that's mistaken And I wrote
(05:58):
this yesterday, so apologies for repeating myself, but I think
that's mistaken loyalty and inactivity for strategy.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, it was one of my favorite lines in your newsletter,
and you carried on, which begs the question, if you're
not coaching and there's no sign of that and you're
not selecting, what are you actually doing except wearing team
issue gear and putting out cones. Do we need a
change of coach.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, it's not the New Zealand way though, and I
think Gary's dead, to be fair to him, had built
up enough credit. There's a guy that's taken New Zealand
into the pointy ends of white ball tournaments. There's a
guy that's taken New Zealand to the World Pest Championship.
I think he had enough credit in the bank to
get a contract extension. Having said that, things look awfully stale,
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the entire New Zealand cricket scene just seems a bit
stale and moribund at the moment, and I think that's.
You know, there's partly to do with the high performance
setup and the fact that there's no real motivation for
the domestic cricketers. They don't feel like there's a way
into the Black Caps, and there's some retires because they're
so set in the stone. I think something needs to change,
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whether it's attitude and all, whether it's strategic, whether it's
more than the finer practical details. It feels awfully style
at the moment, and I think it's even reflected in
the fielding. New Zealand used to be one of the
best building units in the world. I think you might
put them up there with Australia South Africa. There was
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no one better. Now I have to look at that
team play and think they are and this sounds like hyperboctly,
but it's actually not. When you look at the Drop Catchers,
I think they're one of the sloppiest building teams in
the world and that cannot be with New Zealand teams.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So to get out of this FuG that we're in
at the moment, is it necessary to change personnel, to
have widespread changes of personnel or do you believe that
the players who are currently there can undergo a change
of attitude and get themselves back to to where they
need to be.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
I don't think New Zealan can ever do widespread changes
in personnel because there's just not the talent pool there.
But I do think there needs to be more accountability.
I don't think you can have it. And it sounds
like I'm going to pick on a capital players here,
and certainly they are good players, they are there for
a reason. But I don't think you can have your
Henry Nichols failing for nineteen test andings in a row
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before they do something about it. You're Devin Conway's failing
to fifteen tests ands in a row before I do
something about it. Even your captain Tim Souby, who is
now I think bold sixteen innings without taking a three
wicket bag. And these are long stretches where you're essentially
playing people in eleven man game who are not contributing.
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I think there needs to be more sharp eyed selection,
whether that means widening your pool that you're picked from.
There will be sound humans to this effects team harmony
and continuity, but I think we've done that for a
long time now in New Zealanders at the Staley end
of that whole extreme loyalty thing, and something needs to
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be shaken up a little.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Tim Southy is a very interesting case for me because
he seems to have given up on batting, how m
much of a lost course. Something might be you shouldn't
just go out there and swing wildly across the lines
if you put a price on your wicket. The other
part of it, Dylan is in Asia, you pick what
two seam is probably your fastest and your best, and
he's neither right now. But he's the captain.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Yeah, so I would have rested him for the second
Test before the squads were picked for Sri Lanka. They
did make it pretty fair that Tim was unlikely to
play all six Tests, which was reduced to vibe with
the lost of the Afghanist then one he was unlucky
to play all six Tests during this Asian swing. I
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would have thought that second Test was time for him
to recharge, to give someone else a chance to lead
that team, to put someone alongside will I Walk that
could either partner him with a few thunderbolts in a
best Ben Sears or Matt Henry, who was do you
believe the bowler of the series when Australia came here
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last summer. But yeah, they went with the same eleven
they did in the first Test, and sin Salia again
was relatively in effect, they've picked up a wicket in
his first over, and I mean things may have changed
if Darren which had held on to what was that
very very easy chance of per slip of will I
walk early on, that would have put tink a ten
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to two, and maybe the confection of that Test changed
a little bit. But you look at it, I mean,
what do they rack up six hundred and two for five.
That's pretty damning indictment on any bowling attack.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Really, how worried should we be about Devin Conway year?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Relatively worried. I know there has been a little bit
of narrative following that Test. There at least they showed
some spine in the second innings and a plus three
hundred score and subcontinent conditions I guess indicates that they
did something right. But I placed very very little stuff
on that when you're following on and absolutely hopeless caused
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shrillingk All. All they needed to do was take the
field and they were going to win that Test by
a mile eventually. So the New Zealand has had a
little bit of funnel on the way. I just treated
it slightly more like an open wicket session and tried
out some things and bought it quite nicely. But it's
about as low pressure as test crickets can get, so
I don't put a lot of stock on any run
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scored during that innings, and Devin did. He got it
sixty odd, but there are certain technical things going on
that I'm just surprised how often he gets beaten on
the inside the edge. He's a good player, and I'm
surprised how long it's taking him to figure that out,
it feels. I mean, I'm not having coach, but just watching.
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I've watched enough cricket to know that he just looks
so closed off and is unable to get to those
balls that ankle in towards him, and I would have
thought were good coaching around him, and being such a
fine player and having such good eye hand coordination, he
would have figured it out a little better by now.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Just to finish, they'll come home, I presume briefly, and
then head back over for three tests against India. How
should we as cricket fans approach these tests with a
degree of trepidation?
Speaker 6 (12:45):
Would you say in trepidation was the exact word I've
going to pull out there? So you beat me to it? Yeah,
I look in your magnificent team in home conditions Ashwyn
and Jadasia have had New Zealand's number in the past.
I would be extremely careful. I know that's not particularly
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positive mindset to take into anything. And Hope springs eternal
usually and went there I think in their last test tour,
and they clang on for a drawer in the first
test that I think reach and Ravendra maybe in one
of those very first tests, made a battling nineteen nine
out to save the test late. So I mean, yeah,
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Hope springs Eternal. But having said that, watching the last
four days in Gaul didn't fill you with a lot
of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I appreciate your time Dylan as always, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
God funny, thanks.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Mate, that's Dylan Clever. Keen to hear from you now
that Dylan's giving us as excellent and articulate views on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number your
explanations and if you've got them, your solutions. How did
things fall so badly in the space of a week
on the same deck. Let's not forget both played at Gaul,
probably different wicket, but same conditions. We showed fight in
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the first Test, and despite the defeat, there was a
bit to like in the first Test. I thought, well
O'Rourke's bowling, a Jaspertel's bowling, the top orders, relatively solid
batting in the first innings and Rutchian ravender is batting
in the second innings. But as Dylan said then, there
was very little to enthuse about in the second Test.
The bare face facts are these. In the same game
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we conceded our highest ever Test in in score against
Sri Lanka and then slumped to our lowest ever Test
inings or against them. This was an absolute thrashing and
the relative safety of white ball cricket, where mediocrity can
be papered over by the quick, fine nature of the
shorter forms of the game. The safety of white ball
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cricket is still three months away. We've got six Test
matches before the end of the year. Our red reputation
is on the line. Just what three years after we
were World Test champions. As mentioned, there was a bit
of second innings grit there yesterday, especially in the middle
lader Tom Blundell, Glenfhill, Mitchell sand All mate fifties, even
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ahs Ptel digging in for nearly an hour to make
a nuisance of himself at number ten. But by contrast,
the site of the captain coming in at number nine
swinging wildly across the line to be bowled by Jayas
Siria wasn't very palatable at all, regardless of the match situation,
no matter how hopeless it may seem, at the very
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very very least, put a price on your wicket. Don't
throw on the towel, specially if you're captain. Which brings
me to this, there really needs to be a re
examination of the Test captain see when we're on the Subcontinent,
and not just because to South he seems to be,
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you know, unable to bat anymore or has given up
any pretense of wanting to bat properly in Red Bull cricket.
Let's focus on what he is there for. Seam bowling. Now,
more often than not in the Subcontinent, you load up
on spinners and plages two seamers, So you need to
pick your quickest bowler and your best bowler. As I
said to Dylan tim southe is neither of those. So
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the omission of Matt Henry from the playing eleven here
is utterly baffling to me. The last time Matt Henry
bowldon Test cricket was against Australia at the end of
our home summer. He took five for seventy and three
for thirty six on the first Test of the basin,
then seven for sixty seven and two for ninety four
in the second Test at Hackley. Seventeen wickets at fifteen
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point seven easily our best bowl are probably the best
across both sides, and I know it was on seem
friendly pitches here. But while Matt Henry was taking seventeen wickets,
Tim Soudy took four in those two Tests at an
average of sixty one. On top of that, Henry also
contributed some handy runs. He averaged over twenty five across
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the series. Sow The averaged eight and a half. But
Matt Henry was the man left out of the Sri
Lankan Tests because Tim Southy's the captain. Imagine taking seven
fat and and inning's against Australia no matter where it's
been played, and him being dropped for the next Test.
Matt Henry has to play against India and if that
means a change your captain, then so beet.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
Seven twenty four. Let's go to the lines.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Hello, David, Well, you've taken the words right out of
my mouth a sortly. I think Salva's got to go.
And I have Blunderer's captain, that Cain Williams, and you know,
try and get his form back. And there's there's bowls
around like Jacob duffy orson down south there and gosh
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that at that time good crooked. But so you know,
and not only that, I think we've got to have
a look at the coaching. I mean outfielding. I remember
back in the day is like Bruce Egger was one
of the best fielders outfielders ever, and we had we
had guys on the slips that could catch. I mean,
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imagine how many work its Richard had that he wouldn't
have got if he couldn't catch.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Look Jeremy Jeremy Coney, David, you know a number of
slip catches. Jeremy Coney took off off Sir Richard's bowling.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
Broth Ico that he did this run out at the
MCG I think it was Dean Jones and he just
threw this bullet from the boundary and Jones couldn't I
think it was Dean Gimes. He just couldn't believe it.
But he had an arm And I mean, you know,
hum and John right open, you know. But they they
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were playing with ticker and their fieldry was brilliant. We
went one as the best fielding side.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
In the world.
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Now we're about to bloody worst.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, it's it's certainly a concern, David, isn't it. And
it feels like it's a it's a symptom of something
a bit deeper. Look, I take your point on a
guy like Jacob Duffy or other young up and coming bowlers,
but in the subcontinent, like I say, you play two
seam bowlers, Okay, if you accept your play two seam bowlers,
then Matt Henry simply must be one of the two.
How can he not be. He's our best seam bowler.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
Yeah, and the other one was the Goaleri got there?
Oh what is known the.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Quick Ben Sears or Henry will I Rockah?
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, sorry, but how that's got to go, thanks David.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I I look, I don't want this to be a pilon.
I want to take this on the facts that and
cricket is a game where you can make a fact
based argument. Yes, I know that they're on the subcontinent,
not on the green pictures of New Zealand. But if
you compare Matt Henry's bowling performances against Australia the last
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time we played Test cricket to Tim Southey's, there's no contest.
Seventeen wickets for Henry at an average of fifteen point
seventy one, four wickets for Tim Saudi at an average
of sixty one. There's simply no way based on that
that Matt Henry shouldn't be playing seven twenty seven. Call
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something to come in better, get a break away back
with more on the Black Apps right after this on
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
Bang on seven thirty right, let's talk from the cricket Hello,
Kuran and Matt.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
Good evening. I think the reason why the Caps, we
might be overreacting a little bit, but the reason why
the Caps just don't win in the Subcontinent is they
don't play enough cricket there. I mean, look, at the
number of Test matches Australia and England get and the
Caps don't even get half that amount. And that is
the reason why they don't win in the squatin that
they play more, they'll win more. Simple as that in
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my opinion.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
On look, it's a very good opinion, and it's actually
a fact. You're right, don't. We don't play enough cricket
there to get used to the conditions. But Karen, I
can't understand why they were pretty good in the first
Test and so bad in the second. Can you unpack
that two days break?
Speaker 9 (21:23):
It's hot. Two days is just not enough between test matches.
There needs to be a minimum of a three day break.
Remember the days then we used to have four or
five days. I know these are professional athletes that get
paid one hundreds and thousands of dollars, but two days
just isn't enough to recover in that heat and humidity.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
I wonder them why they didn't make some changes because
they kept exactly the same eleven. Sri Lanka, on the
other hand, made two or three changes to their side.
They've got other other guys over there. Michael Bracewall could
have come in, for example, as the spinning all rounder.
If they thought well O'Rourke was a bit but cooked,
they could have brought Ben Searson. Will Young could have
come into the side in some capacity in the top order.
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You know, the the fatigue thing doesn't match up with
the fact they picked the same for both tastes.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
But Carrie Stead did say something along the lines of
there being a delicate balance between getting them enough overs
and resting them. I think that's what they were trying
to hit, that balance, and that's where they kind of
forgot that fast bowlers do need breaks. And I do
take your point about Michael Bracewell. I don't think he's
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the man put Test cricket though one days. Yes, Will Young,
I don't know what his record is in the subcontinent. Yes,
you've got to start them, you got to give them
a chance, but I don't know how good he will
be or is in the subcontinent. The real taste will
be in India.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Again.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
It's a shame because I wish they got you know,
one practice, practice game or some game time before the
actual Test series starts, but I doubt that's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thanks Karan. Yeah, I mean losing the Afghanistan Test certainly
wasn't helpful, was it. That would have been something at
least if that had a bit of time across five
days in that test which was completely washed out as
we know. But you make some good points on stuff,
and I like your level headed thinking, Karan. I really
do you know the I guess the counterpoints to it.
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Like I say, they picked the same team. Matt Henry's
O mission is completely baffling to me. And this is
the problem you strike when you've got a bowler as
your captain, because you know, if if you've got your
top six batters, they pretty much play in all conditions.
Bowler is not so much, especially on the subcontinent. Thanks
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Ran Hey, Steven, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
Get a Jason. Very interesting views and all that coming through.
A few points though, I'd like to bring up. One
point is how many warm up games are they playing
over there? Are they playing any?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
None?
Speaker 3 (23:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
That well, they had the Afghanistan Test that was almost
even though it was a test match, it didn't count
for any World Test Championship points. So that was I
guess slated as the warm up game. And I mean
we can't control the weather, completely washed out, so these
two test matches and nothing now between between now and
the first test against India starting on the sixteenth of October.
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I think they come home for a bit and then
go back over.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Yeah. See, that doesn't make sense. I mean, you know,
in previous times we at least have one Walmart game,
you know, even a or three or four day game
before you had a test. I mean, it seems a
bit ludicrous. Why are they coming home and not going
to India or this is so important, you know, a
three test series there and playing some Walmart games before
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they played the tests to get a bit climatized and
you know, just get a little bit familiar instead of
just sort of rushing over there and then they're into
a test.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, it seems so logical. Stephen, Maybe they are. I
stand to be corrected. I do recall hearing something over
the last day or so to say that they would
come home in between. But you're right, it seems logical.
They're there anymore. They're in that part of the world anyway.
Nip over to him. Do you play a couple of
three or four day games against some local teams in
similar conditions and you know, and yeah, get yourself ready.
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You remember, remember when we went to Australia for that
highly anticipated to a back end of twenty nineteen, we
played a Boxing Day Test and a couple of other tests,
and we didn't play any warm up games in Australia
at all. We just went straight over there into the
first Test. And I remember thinking at the time, I'll
never do that again. They'll never go into a Test
series against anybody without a bit of a warm up game.
And like I say, they thought Afghanistan might be it.
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But you make a great point. Why wouldn't you start
to have a couple of games. Maybe they are. Maybe
I've maybe I've got that wrong.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Yeah, Jason, can I just and just say one other
thing and then please go?
Speaker 11 (25:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
No, please no.
Speaker 10 (25:47):
We we hear this all the time, you know. You
know the way they treated a AJS Battel when he
got that you know, got that ten ten wickets in
an innings. Yeah, and we hear it, you know, And
we look at our wickets. They're juiceph gs of pace bowlers, right.
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You know, I think it's really time that we encourage
spin bowlers here, that we try to get wickets so
you've got a balance between pace and spin, you know,
I mean you look at the Indian wickets, you know,
you look at your you know, their pace attack there,
they're sort of geared towards having pace and spin. And
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I think that we need to really try and see
what we can do to somehow encourage that we're getting spin,
you know. I mean, and Betel's been treated you know,
so so wrong, you know. I mean, if you look
at any other Test nation, they at least have a spinner,
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a genuine spinner in their team.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
You know, Australia, Nathan Lyon plays every single Test match, Steven.
It doesn't matter if it's the dirtiest green seam you'll
ever find. Nathan lines in the eleven it doesn't matter.
And they often say, don't they if it seems it'll
spin as well? So you're right about ages. Did you
see that stat he's never taken a Test wicket in
New Zealand?
Speaker 10 (27:12):
Yes, yeah, you've heard that. Yes, incredible, extraordinary, Yeah, And
I mean if you just sorry, probably a lot of
cause wanting to get through just one little, final little
point and then I'll let you go. I think it's
time time for a selection change and coach change, and
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I would like to see actually somehow Ian Smith Jeremy
Coney are the past who have got a great eye
that was somehow brought into the Max so they could
help even as a you know, just consultant or something.
You know, we need we need a good shake up.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Good on you, Steven. Great to chat to you, mate,
made some great points. Thanks for calling through, Mat. I't
really appreciate it. H Dan, Thanks for.
Speaker 11 (28:01):
Holding good a party.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
How are you, oh Dan? Good? Mate?
Speaker 11 (28:05):
Good?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
What are you thinking about these black Caps? Dan?
Speaker 11 (28:08):
What do I think? I think everyone's made up all
their excuses in the world for them.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
No warm up.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
Games, none of this, none of that. But I think,
as the last call is said, that we need total change.
And I also think that Gary Stead is too close
to Tim Seal thee. You need a different coach in
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there who's going to have a bit of bulls and say, okay, Tim,
it's time to pull the pin and let some youngsters
come in.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
I don't think there's unnecessarily a bad thing when a
coach and a captain are well connected. I think of
Mike Essen and Brendan McCallum, they were very much on
the same page. But I'm pretty sure that they could
challenge one another if need be. I think the problem,
you know, is that with what we've seen since the
World Test Championship and players sort of getting older and
this is an aging team, is that the regeneration of
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the team, and Dylan made this point, hasn't gone very
quickly at all. It's it's happened almost, you know, by
by attrition more than anything. Players don't don't feel as
though if they don't play well, they'll they'll they'll be dropped.
And I'm not sure that there are necessarily a whole
bunch of guys wanting to take their places. But yeah,
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it feels like we're stagnating just a little bit, and
and you know, something needs to happen to give us
a bit of our zinback.
Speaker 11 (29:37):
I think it does, Poney, And I think you know
that New Zealand holding on to old players too long
and the young generation aren't getting much of the chance,
to be honest, because the old players are just hanging
in there and Gary Stead is just letting them do
what they want.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Thanks for your call down. Always enjoy chatting to you,
particularly on a Monday night.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
You start my week off on the right foot. Thanks
for calling through. Yeah, Look, this is, as I said,
an aging side. I think the only guys in this
eleven who are under thirty are Ruch and Ravendra, Glenn
Phillips and willow' rourke. The eleven that's played these two
Test matches, those are the only three who are under thirty.
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So clearly, over the next couple of years we're going
to strike a situation where a lot of them sort
of finish. At the same time, we'll look back to
the team that won the World Test Championship. We've lost
a bunch of guys from that team as well, you know,
some pretty important guys as well, Ross Taylor, Trent Bolt,
for example. There's two for you, two of our greats,
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our greatest ever players not there anymore. Mark, I mate you.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
It's got stale, you know, and we can see that
things get stale and things go off track.
Speaker 11 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
It's just I mean, and it's all got winning you coach.
I mean, the min not it's just a betting. It's
letting us down, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's just yeah, I mean, our bowling wasn't great in
the first innings of the second Test either, unfortunately, Mark,
I watched them, you know, in the first Test, they
you know, they hit some bowling changes and O Rourke
looked like he might do something every time he got
the ball. And you know a JS was getting wickets.
He got eight in the first Test, he got in
the second Test, Ajs be held none for one hundred
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and thirty five. So yeah, I don't think anything was
very good in the second Test.
Speaker 10 (31:40):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
So when you look at we're look at it, I'm
not sure where you start to be fair.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
Yeah, you bring out that guy from Canterbury. What was
his name again?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Sorry, will No, the guy.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
You know you've got the sixer for against Australia.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh, Matt Henry. Matt Henry, Yeah, met Henry.
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Yeah, crazy, I mean crazy, not starting met Henry. It's
just crazy. Yep, I'm a great we can we can
see it. I mean it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And it's not even like I said before. You know,
when you when we're looking at a couple of selection
things in rugby, you know we talk about whose who
should play, you know, center for the all blacks for example,
there's a lot of argument around you know that is
that is very subjective. But when it comes to cricket,
like I say, if you just even if you just
compare the last Test series, like I say, seventeen wickets
for Henry at fifteen's four for Saudi at sixty one.
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You tell me who's the more effective bowler?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
Oh yeah, I mean as scenery boy father. Yeah yeah,
I know things need to change. I mean going back
to the spinners. How we don't perform well in India
and trel Anchor and spinners we don't create a sponging
pitch in their environment here That doesn't help. You know,
we're all grain decks hard than fast. You know, maybe
we need to start making spinning decks to for us
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to get used to it. You know, So these other ways.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, or near or what we could do is old
spinners regardless of the conditions here because ajs Pttel gets
pot gets pots of wickets in Plunket Shield, he gets
so many Four day wickets, but he never gets he
never gets picked. He never gets picked in Test matches
here in New Zealand. Like I say, Nathan Lion plays
every single game for Australia. Can be the dirtiest green
seamer you'll ever see, and Nathan Lion still plays. You know,
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we sort of like fudget a bit and Sol Mitchell Sentner,
you know, for a long time was our specialist spinner.
He's never going to run through a side, you know.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
But then yeah, there needs to be changed. I think
we'll have them really quick, so it's in the years.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Good on you, Mark, Thanks mate, appreciate your call.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Chris.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I've got about sixty seconds, mate. What's what's top of
your mind?
Speaker 12 (33:49):
Okay, just a little bit of sat on by me.
I play one hundred and twenty bucks for a seniors
match ticket at the Basin, which I think is quite
expensive for the only entertainment to be the Bamie Army.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Are you talking about the upcoming Test match? Yes, look,
I reckon. I mean to be fair Chris and good satire.
You'd have to hope we'll be better back here. They're
our conditions. We know them a lot better. Even when
we played Australia heat. You know, there were parts of
both Test matches, the one in Wellington and the one
in Christich. We we look really good and I hope
that we'll come back in our own conditions play well.
(34:26):
You know what else? I hope that we bowl, we
play a specialist spinner. I want to bring ags home
and play in those test matches.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
You know, hey agree, I just just on that Australia
made an absolute monkey out of us at our home
conditions in the basin this year that they played Lion,
we didn't play a spinner and they read the pitch
better than us.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Good on you, mate. Let's hope for better things when
when England arrived. Appreciate all your calls. Got to get
a breakaway sixteen away from eight news talks, he'd be.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Ladies.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Our rankings they're type for Pinet's Power rankings. Every Monday night.
We rate the best, the worst and everything in between.
From the sporting weekend. Let's go the Black Caps. We've
been talking about them tonight. Totally outclassed in Sri Lanka
and producing one of the worst first and things batting
displays in recent memory.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Beautifully balled a speed, The trajectory.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Was outstanding to see.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Little Satner has it apart top scorers. Something's twenty nine
bold and they're so furious zill and all out for
eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Nine nine is Johnny Sexton having an almighty winge in
his new book about last year's Rugby World Cup quarter
final defeat of the All Black settlement.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
It's a pedal got of the old Blacks dead the
finals head egg for.
Speaker 10 (35:53):
The SI Finals.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
According to Johnny Sexton, that should have been an Irish penalty,
and Rico Joanni apparently wasn't very nice to him afterwards.
I'm sure you and the Irish would have been totally
humble if you had won, Johnny, just like you were
when you won down here in twenty twenty two. Move on,
eat the Black Ferns. Back to back defeats, this time
to the Irish and WXV won this afternoon in Vancouver.
Speaker 13 (36:17):
Next time the ball goes dead, it is over.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Gets it in New Zealand. Search for that's right air
bit it warn't matter, Oh, Brian kicks it over that
to Fine added at Islands. Who'd have beat the Black
Ferns and Vancouver? Twenty nine twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Seven World in Ireland. England up next for the Black Ferns.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Manchester United humbled at home by Tottenham in the Premier
League this morning, headed.
Speaker 14 (36:44):
On by Sar, pushed it by Slanky.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Was it and that's the third.
Speaker 14 (36:48):
Goal that should finish this game off for good.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Just two wins in their first six league games. Eric
ten Haggs grip on the manager's job at United getting
more and more tenuous by the day six. The Silver
Ferns close but not close enough. From the tiny Jamison
series opener against England last night.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
That's gonna be game over and England have come to
Auckland had beaten the Silver Ferns by.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
One goal well in England game two Wednesday night in
body to US five into the top half. Five is
the NRL Grand Final we all wanted. It'll be the
Melbourne Storm forty two and away.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
The is a bold stunt Blockbustadada can now Vost's get another.
Speaker 14 (37:32):
Melbourne Red finalists.
Speaker 13 (37:36):
Melbourne are they Premiership favorites based on this?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
And the Pentrith Panthers is white.
Speaker 13 (37:43):
The right foot kick Martins an exclamation mark from the
Panthers as they march on to the first Sunday in October.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Blockbuster NRL Grand Final incoming on Sunday Night four. The
All Blacks.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
Fine Mcinzi tixs it over the touch line, the Capital
pairsens and the All Blacks when Sakain's one hundred hiss
final on home soil TJ penan Ara's final on home
soil thirty three thirteen over the Wallabes at Sky Stadium.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Hair breaking the Capitol Curs and ending the Rugby Championship
on a high in Wellington on Saturday night three three
is talked back caller Dallas, who knew the result of
that game in advance. I dremp the score was going
to be thirty three thirteen to the Aabs. For a laugh,
I just put it on Facebook.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
The score is.
Speaker 12 (38:35):
Going to be thirty three thirteen.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And it happened, Dellius. I wonder why you went to
Facebook and not the tab I know, but.
Speaker 12 (38:42):
I'm not a thought better if it happens again, yes,
I'll be straight out there.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Two two late conversions. Two of them Harry Godfrey's late
late show for the Magpies against Auckland.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Harry Godfrey SIPs in, strikes it with the right boot,
he Paul goes up. Has he got it?
Speaker 4 (39:00):
He's got it?
Speaker 10 (39:01):
What?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Five on?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
This is outrageous tue relation. There's a pile up of
cattle sports they have stolen at thirty six, thirty five.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And even later than that, Pokeranger winning the under eighty
five kilogram National Club Cup courtesy of Riley Harrison.
Speaker 14 (39:19):
This for thirty five National Club Cup. What a moment
for the young man.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
De Panther's w.
Speaker 14 (39:35):
Depents winning forty five off.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I think he's gonna find out.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
How many is going with the trophy tonight. I bet
he did. I bet they all did. One one though,
is our man Liam Lawson finally a full time Formula
One drive for our rising motorsport star.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
It now finally does sort of feel real.
Speaker 14 (39:58):
I knew about it for the last sort of two weeks,
but until it's out there to the world, it's it's
obviously he doesn't ever really feel sitting so and I
couldn't tell anybody.
Speaker 9 (40:05):
So it's a very cool feeling.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
How do you feel about the Power rankings tonight? Well, Piney,
I see the notable emission entirely of World Roadside Ling
Champion Taday for Garcha. So winning Guero toor de France
and World Chance means nothing to you. I see Piney's
Power rankingsday Facebook. He's got proof, he has got proof,
he has got proof. Hey, just on the cricket before
(40:31):
we move on. Nathan Lyon we mentioned him before as
a spinner in the Australian side, had forgotten this. He
took ten wickets at the basin last summer four for
forty three and six for sixty five in the first Test,
and we don't make wickets. Play a spinner, play a
jazz at the basin, Play a jaz and all three
Tests go on six and a half to eight, four
(40:53):
to eight, finishing with a Monday night email from Leon
and Melbourne Piney, I don't think a suffer Solomon is
going to get off his charge for reckless for his
reckless high tackle. Even if they lessen it, he'll still
be suspended for Sunday's Grand Final. He's not a dirty player.
For what transpider that moment was reckless. It's a real
shame because the Kewi enforcer has played consistently well this season.
That said, says Leon, I'm quietly confident the Storm can
(41:14):
cover his absence as the squad have a lot of depth.
Could be a huge week for the Storm, starting with
the Dally m Wards midweek where Jerome Hughes is one
of the favorites for Player of the Year. But Sunday
is what really matters and I strongly feel the Storm
have been building nicely and peaking at the right time.
It should be a great Grand Final nonetheless totally agree
(41:34):
with you. Leon. Thank you for your email as always,
and thank you for listening into Sports Talk tonight. It's
back tomorrow evening between seven and eight every weeknight. In fact,
Darcy Watergrave takes over tomorrow through until Friday. We'll be
back on weekend Sport this coming Saturday between midday and three.
Huge thanks to Addie McDonald for producing as always, thank
you for listening in. Marcus Lush is on your radio
(41:57):
after eight o'clock this evening to take you through the
rest of September. When he clocks off, it'll be October.
Hard to believe. See you, Sidney.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
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