October 3, 2024 • 43 mins
ZB's own D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Chris Milich - Former All-White and Northern Rovers coach on the alleged assault of Ellerslie FC's football coach at a junior tournament.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Why Hello there, welcome one in sports Talk. My name
is Darcy Waltergrave. On the third of October, a Thursday,
seven minutes after seven, we bring you an hour of sport.
You can get involved. If you want engage, please do.
I'll wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty. The lines
(01:01):
we'll be open after the conclusion of our first interview,
and that is christ Middlesech, director of football for Northern Rovers.
We're going to broach the constant and alarming subject of
parental aggression on the sideline. This is not about football,
(01:23):
This expands saw a number of different sports at a
number of different levels. How should be approached? How can
it be solved? Is it a case of throwing your
hands in the air and saying, well, people who will
be people will just deal with it? Or does something
need to happen to stop this happening on the sidelines
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of sports at all levels. Christians are shortly to talk
about that. Then we'll take your calls on at eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Toward the end of the program,
I catch up with a man who may well become
the IBF Middleway Champion of the world. His name is
Andre Mkaylovitch. He fights tomorrow night. That scrap, of course
(02:03):
delayed a month because his competition missed weight last time. Whoops,
too many pies before the weigh in the wayans just happened.
They're all okay, they're going through. It's fight on tomorrow night.
Mikaylevitch joined us toward the end of the program right
before we go near that. Let's go out and close
(02:24):
to this today and sport today, potential IVF middleweight Champion
of the world. Hold on it's darts. Andre Mkalovich has
dropped some science on defending champ yannabik Adam Hanuli. The
champ has just touched down in Australia for the fight,
(02:44):
flew in for the scrap, so Andre has screwed him
up on the dangers of flight recovery.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You know what jet laggers? Do you know what what
a depletion is? Do you know what happen to see
your skull when you're dehydrated. There's like this layer of
water that protects your brain from the skull. Without that
and without a good liver, those punches are going to
hurt later.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Aha.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The Silver fans are looking down the barrel of a gun.
Sin of a gun. Some of this beastie boys, I'm
sorry about that. They're looking down the barrel of a
potential downtrow at the hands of the English captain Amelia
Anakinaccio has pretty much laid it down.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We're about to find out what we're really made of.
I think going into this last game, our backsro against
the wall and yeah, I think we've just got to
see people come out firing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Assaulter of golf balls Ryan Fox as a cunning plan
to secure his PGA card the next season.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The idea is to give myself four weeks to get
the job done and then come home and do the
rehab and the rest and everything that's required to sort
out what's going on with the hip. If it doesn't
go to plan, I might have to receive that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We think rehab recover. Keeper Alex Paulson has had a
stunning twelve months, which is continued with the young All
White number one being voted the twenty twenty four PFA
Young Men's Player of the Year by his fellow A
League professionals.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
To be given an opportunity by Chip to be involved
with the ways of Phoenix and you know, be the
number one there was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I know he's going to be lining up against Chief
Jean Calotaliana, who's the head coach of Aukland City's a
league rival, the Phoenix. And that's sport today. We're talking
sideline behavior now, mostly good when it's bad, though it
is hideous. We're joined by Chris Millict, director of football
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for the Northern Rovers and always great to have you
on board. Chris may be not in the best circumstances,
but it is something we have to talk about.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Well, thanks for having me and yeah, this is an
issue that we've all got to confront.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think we're basing this on the Alleleie FC coach
hospitalized after allegedly being struck by a parent and junior
Auckland football in the tournament. That's been reported by our
new selling Herol Bonnie Jansen across that one and after,
of course the referee was hit from behind a big
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back push after awarding a penalty try in a game
over the weekend in rugby. It keeps happening now, Chris,
to a lot of us, We'll go okay, these are outliers.
These are people that from time to time blow their call.
I suppose we have to accept it, but you're involved
at that level, you see it. It's a lot deeper
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than that, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah, it is deeper than that.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I think fundamentally, there's clearly an explosion in these people's
brains because there is no good outcome for them. The
player they're desperately trying to do something with will get
removed from the club, they'll get bands, et cetera, et cetera.
So they are the outlier because the violence is the
outlier because it is very rare. Well, what's not rare
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is the instances of parents arguing with each other on
the sideline from opposite and teams yelling instructions at the referee,
making sure the referee or the linesman.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Is getting a verbal in the year.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
It also goes down to the point where the parents
are yelling instructions their own children, and all of it
is endemic of, in my opinion, a pursuit not to
embarrass the parents. So I think a lot of it's
tied up with the fact that my little Johnny or
little Jane's going to play a game and I'm not
going to let them fail so that I don't get
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embarrassed when she fails or he fails. And that's the
only reason I can think it happens, because every piece
of research will tell you the more you yell instructions
at your kids, the less likely they are to develop
any skills that will be commenceate with.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
The level you think they're going to play with.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And the more you yell at other parents and you
perform on the sidelines, your kids tend to not want
to continue to play sport because they're fundamentally embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Parents can't see, which I find utterly bizarre that they
don't realize the effect they're having not only on their children,
but on other children and on other parents. The Yes,
maybe the violence doesn't rear its ugly head all the time,
but the verbal violence does. How can this be curbed?
(07:26):
Chris and your experience, because you've been around the trap
for quite some time.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I think it's there is. It's not a simple fix.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It's on an easy fix, but it's a pretty It
needs to happen. I believe that what needs to happen
is the children in a team need to come together
with their coach or a manager or someone within the club,
and they put down almost the behavior that they will.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Accept from their parents.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And then you've got to bring the parents in and
you explain the children which to talk to you. The
children then say, we don't want to be yelled at.
We just want to be supported. You've got to get
us to training, but we don't want you on the field.
We don't want you yelling at coaches, we don't want
you young at referees. And the parents then have to
sign something because in signing that they agreed to not
a code of conduct, but they agree to a manner
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of behavior that their own children will find acceptable. And
I think that that's quite confronting to a lot of
parents that suddenly you're not in charge of this child.
The child is telling you what they are prepared to
accept playing their sport. And in that case, the parents
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can either go, well, I don't do that, and the
kid can go okay, fine, But the moment they step
over that line, that the coach or the manager has
every right to say, look, you sign this document and
you're outside the bounds of what has been accepted as
the values of this football team.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
And I think the more ownership we can give to
the children and their environment, and not necessarily the coach,
but the children.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Gives them the power to say to mom and dad,
please don't yell at me when I'm playing football or
playing netball or whatever. You've somehow got to make people
aware that their behavior is so counterproductive to the child,
to the environment, and what's going on, that you are
the baddie. Now most of them say, well, it's not me,
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it's eavn me. The ninety five percent of people are brilliant.
It's at five percent. But if you go talk to
the five percent, they go, they go, yeah, those people
are really bad, and you're going that there's a total
disconnect between their behavior and what they think they're doing.
So it's kind of like a mental block. They can't
even hear themselves doing it, and they think they're helping.
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I don't know what they think they're doing, but it's
really that is the best way I found to make it.
Parents back off almost.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Chris middle saise, that's putting a lot of pressure on
the kids, though a lot of responsibility on them to
in essence, confront their parents to go this is not
good enough, is it entirely right.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You say that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
But the weird thing is if that all the kids
do it together, that the parents that are the bad
ones will get policed by the other parents on the sideline,
not by the children. So if you had ten groups
of pearents in a group, and there's one set that
are just one of these types of pearance, and the
other nine have signed the singer all standing sielin, and
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the parents start yelling someone next to them, we go, hoy,
we don't do that, And suddenly there's a reminder there.
So the children aren't the ones managing that. It's actually
been managed by the other parents and the team. Because
human beings follow the pack, you know, and it can
become quite confronting when somebody within your so called pack
or group says to you, oh, we've all agreed not
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to do this, let's cut that out. And then it
does give the next tool. If it continues that you
can actually lift it to higher levels. And people now
need to be kicked out of clubs. It's happened at
our club, et cetera, et cetera, it happens at most clubs.
People now need to be removed from the club and
said you are no longer welcoming this club.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Please leave.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Your behavior is not suitable the values that we hold dear.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Because that then scends a pretty distinct message.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Sure they'll go to another club, but that if all
the clubs did that, they would very quickly find themselves
know where to go. The incidence on the weekend that
parent from whichever club it was, he would have been
behaving with intensity, not just over the weekend, He'd have
been doing it for quite some time, and nobody has
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pulled them up. I often say to people, people go, oh,
the club does this, and the club does that and
this thing.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
No, we are the club.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Everybody in a club is the club, the values of
the club. What they'll accept, what they don't accept is
the club. As adults in youth sport, every adult there
has to have be empowered to go, hey, we've agreed
to this.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
You need to stop.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And if they continue, don't confront them, just raise it
to another level. And then the club or the management
of the next level's got to say, you're now band
for four weeks, you now a lot to come in.
We had an instance of racism, northern robism and the
group that we're doing it they were suspended for a
long period of time this year, and it's sort of
it all out instead of thinking we've got to try
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and soak up humanity's ills, as it were, everybody has
to be brave enough to say we don't accept that behavior,
please leave.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Where's the behavior the worst? From what you've seen? Is
it more of it?
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Parents?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
At the youth level? Does it expand as they go
through the grades? Is there a hot point for this?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Well?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I think if you go back to young as in
young under nige, there's an I call them the helicopter parents.
But kids are running around the field and parents are
right on the sideline. They're desperate to step over that sideline,
especially with the kid that might be standing steering at
the sky, but they don't. They want the kids to
all be doing it. So that's the start of it
where they're kind of like, oh, I've got to get
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in there, and I've got to you know, I've got
to help. And then when they go into more structured
sporting environments whatever it may be, they are then going
their whole thing there as I don't want my kid
to miss out from the top teams the bottom teams.
This team that team. They're in there, and I put
it all down to a fear of missing out. But
when it starts still really seem to hit. Is that
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moment when mum or dad goes, my kid's not that good,
and the moment they do that, for whatever reason, kid
might want to play the sport he came He or
she doesn't care they can't run as fast as the others.
They might have skills in other areas, But the moment
that happens, that's when it hits. The parents are now
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actively saying, I'm going to make sure my boy or
my girl ends up on the highest team I can.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I'm going to make sure I manage this team.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I'm going to make sure and on the weekend when
something goes against them or the referees picking and I'm
going to make sure my kid knows that I'm in
there and I'm supporting. And they think it's about supporting
the kid because they're in there trying to make sure
that everything they think he.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Or she wants they're going to deliver it.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Instead of saying you're on your own single swim and
you go see what happens, which is the whole point
of sport, They're in there with a fear of missing
out and ensuring that their child has the opportunity to
play in whatever team they deem suitable. And they never
ever think if you put a kid in a team
or in an environment which they're not quite capable of
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doing it, it will destroy their confidence, it will destroy
their ability because that kid sits there going I really
shouldn't be in this team, but I'm in this team.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It's a miserable environment for them to be in by themselves.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nomo, we've got the breakdown on sports talks.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Chris Millers is the director of Fortball Northern Rovers, talking
about aggression on the sideline from parents from a very
young age and it carries on and on and on.
You all would have experience this there if it's your children.
That's sport, and it does tend to happen at a
younger level of parents living vicariously through their children because
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they failed dismally and push all this rubbish on their
poor kids. But you see it as the grades go up,
and you see it as we get into other sports.
This is not just football. It's a football, This is rugby,
this is rugby league that and sadly we see the
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brutal peak of it. But underneath that level it is,
as Chris said, endemic and it's horrible. What is the
reason for this? You've had experience out that you've watched this,
you've seen this, Maybe you've been guilty of doing this.
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Not punching the coach in the face, not pushing a
referee blindsided in the back, but the verbal, the vocal
aggression and violence on the sideline. It's the responsibility of
the club. The responsibility of the club, which has Chris
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pointed out, the club is the people who make up
the club. You are the club. So what has to happen,
What is the reason for it? What is the best
way to deal with this? What is the way forward?
Because it's a sporting shame. Really interested in your thoughts
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on this, onwithstanding dealing with poor behavior within predominantly social
football from a younger level, right the way up? Why
do you do it? How can it be curtailed and controlled?
What happens?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Who's responsible? At eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. I
love your thoughts on this because it affects the youth
and they're playing on the park and they're seeing their
parents getting all lippy and foul mouthed and having a
crack and a go, and their faces going red, with
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spittle pouncing out from betwixt their lips. What does it
say to them about sport? Doesn't say that it's fun,
does it? It says it's horrible and they don't play anymore. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Rage is the reason.
Vicarious parents is the reason. Frustration is the reason. How
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can that be curtailed? What has to happen to stop this?
Your calls? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, this
is News TALKSZB. You're on Sports Talk. My name's Darcy
looking Ford to yarning with you give us a ring.
It's twenty four past seven.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That's dangerously.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Forget the riffs. Call you make a call on eighty
Sports Talk on your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It balks.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Seven Sports Talk. Care on that News Talks.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
Here'd be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Let's set the phones running our eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty Richard welcome. What's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
How you got good?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
A good topic? No, super good? I don't really know
how to deal with those apparents of coach cricket. For
a long time. So it's not solely in soccer or football.
I think it's right across the board.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think neat ball it's in there as well. We
get a bit of agree to your sideline. Cricket's supposed
to be a relaxed, gentlemen's game, but it gets nasty.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 10 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean the idea, of course is say, look the
people on the side, on their parents in the club,
they've got to get together and we need to stop
this out for internally.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, I agreed, I look quite grumpy. I'm pretty big.
So they start and then they stop when I do
the frown thing. But you know, not all coaches like me.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How does the materialize in cricket? What actually happens as
an umpire attacks is what X goes on.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yep, here it is. I mean we're out there. I
only do junior cricket. I gave up on the senior stuff.
But I'm out there with the with the iPad now,
so I'm scoring and then you'll hear it them on
the sideline going off for you. So you have a
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little chat to them afterwards, obviously, and most of them
quite en up.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
After that, it's almost like it's a release passage. We're
on the sideline. We can say what we want.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well you can't.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oh no you can't, mate, not if I'm out there
working for nothing. So I don't know, mate, It's good
you're bringing it up. At least, you know, people might
might realize, hey, we're volunteers. Just be a little bit quieter,
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and you know, we're there to get the kids to
enjoy the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Game first and almost it is about enjoyable the game
point zero zero zero five percent, Like I'm pulling that
figure out of my backside. But such a tiny amount
of young players in any sport go on to be professionals,
go on to reach the very top of nobody does.
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So what's the pressure? You get your kids? Your children
into sport so they can be physical, so they can
enjoy the camaraderie of their friends. They can have a
good time, and that is the main thing. If you're
solely in, they go, my son's going to be the
next David Beckham and you're attacking everybody to help them up.
What the kid's going to hate you?
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I got your mate, Yeah, on your origin.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Mate, you do a great job getting out there volunteering.
That's the key thing. So many volunteers out there, so
many Hi, Jeff, how oh sorry, wrong line? Oops, Sorry, Craig,
I called you, Jeff, how are you?
Speaker 11 (21:51):
That's a right mate. I can be Jeff if you like, No.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Be Craig. I'm sure you're much better at it, all right.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Hey, look, just really I've sort of experienced this from
a lot of different perspects, if you like. Like I
played rugby at a high level at high school and
had great coaches and things, and occasionally you'd have that
one parent that just, you know, from whatever team you're
you're playing, or even on your own team that just
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didn't get it that it's just the boys working out themselves.
I've got a coach. We don't need outside interference too much.
Like we're learning, you know. That's that's what that age
of you know, we're young and playing sports. It's you're learning.
You only you're going to get confused if there's too
many people telling you what to do, right, Yeah, I
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just think that that watching my nephew and so it's
my brother was on the sidelines and very vocal and
way too much to do with it and kind of
annoying people.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
If I wanted to do it, Craig go off to
a club, join the club and become a coach.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
Well that's it. But but yeah, but unfortunately those are
not the sort of people who you'd want vacations mate.
To a certain degree, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's do these people realize what they're doing? Because Christmas
it's made the point that some people say, oh, yeah,
these parents are terrible, yet they do it themselves. Is
there self awareness amongst the segment of society.
Speaker 11 (23:25):
I actually think that it's a self awareness thing or
a feeling of bigger and better than everybody else around
them kind of thing. It's either narcissism or the opposite.
You can know what I mean. And I think those parents,
you see them all the time, and I went on
to race mountain bikes a very high level and the
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majority of parents are really cool. They're just so supportive
of the kids. Yet just one or two who just
want to they don't want to listen to the experts.
They think that they know better. You know, it's a
hard one to deal with, and especially and kid sports,
mostly in.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Kids sports, because it puts them off playing the game.
And that's what we want. We want engage children who's socializing,
get a bit fitter, learn something new, and that environment.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That was going to do it.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean this is the thing that's like, I
love playing sport. I was never a world champion, you
know what I mean. You don't need to be. You
can still enjoy sport and you've brought up. It teaches
you about discipline, exercise, mental, physical, It teaches you about
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interacting with other people, working with other people. There's just
so many tools that you've been handed to when you're
playing sport at that level and just need to sort
of back out a little bit because those are really
important skills and your mum and dad can't teach you everything.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No they can't, but sometimes, Craig and thanks for you call,
they think they can. And it is only occasionally when
it gets physically violent, much more often when the aggression
is vocal. A small percentage of people behavior in the sidelines.
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It doesn't mean to say you throw your hands and go,
oh well, people will be people and solvers right, make
steps towards solving this our eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Jeff, good day to you, Hello, Jeff, Hi.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
Hi, Yeah, I just wanted to talk about this aggression
on the sideline by people. Now, I coached a junior
soccer team and I was a voluntary coach, and it
wasn't all appearance, but some of them were so rude
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yelling at the kids on the soccer field.
Speaker 12 (26:05):
So I we.
Speaker 10 (26:09):
From another club, another soccer team. I came to an
agreeance with this referee because we reffed a coach and reffed,
and I came up with a thing that if this happened,
we go up to those parents and say, hey, the
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kids don't need this. This is silly what you're saying.
These kids are only nine and ten years of age.
They're not going to go. They're not all going to
get to the World Cup. Mate, But please don't be
so rude and discussing on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And I think that standing up, Jeff, and thanks very
much for your call to these people not in an
aggressive manner. There's not going to work. It's just like
stating effect is essentially helpful. You'd like to think, as
I like to say, though you can lead a horse
toward her, invariable it drowns. You don't know how people
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are going to react in that situation. Maybe if it's
a situation where they lose access to the club and
that punishes the child. Granted, So where's your level? What
do you do ostracize the individual? Does the referee stop
the game? To the parents crowd around? It's a real issue.
(27:34):
Oh one, ten eighty, give us a call. I love
to hear from here. Twenty four away from eights. This
this news talk ZB.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
To sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Twenty eight sports talk here on a news talker, Z
to B and we're talking behavior on the sideline from parents,
from fans, predominantly from parents. Wait on it and get
a mac. What have you got for us?
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Yeah, evening?
Speaker 10 (28:08):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You're good?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Good?
Speaker 12 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Also, Matte, I'm living through this right now. I've got
two daughters, ten and twelve, both playing neppal in a
certain part of Auckland I won't say where. Yeah, certain
parents are very concerned with promoting their own children into positions.
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You can get emotionally charged by the behavior that you
see and the manipulation that goes on. But I guess
I'll give you another take on the way. I've kind
of worked through that with my daughter. She also umpires,
and we haven't brought that up that umpires also on
the end of a lot of abuse from parents. I
guess the first point I'll make is I think the
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love that parents have for their kids in these situations
ends up hurting the parent and the kid where they
are unable to separate that kind of deep love and
the promotion of their own child and the situation that
they find themselves in a huge lack of awareness that
goes on. So I'm looking at that happening in front
(29:13):
of me, and I just was looking for an opportunity
to kind of teach my daughter something through that, because
she wanted to play a certain position through the politics
of the team, ends up not in that position or
whatever it may be. It doesn't matter what the specifics
are trying to teach you that actually, you know, this
is what real life is like. This is what people
(29:34):
do to promote themselves or promote their children. And when
she kind of thought of that instead of getting upset
about not where she was and I said, look, just
do your best. It may not falll your way inevitably anyway.
So season goes on, and the daughter of that particular parent,
(29:55):
she came back and told me the wedge that is
coming between the mother and daughter because of that behavior
already at that young age was already happening. So I
guess she she kind of sees that there's no real
fruits in behaving that way, either for parent or not
for me to get all piped up and start, you know,
(30:16):
throwing my weight around, but also for her it would
be quite embarrassing. So she sees the embarrassment with that
kid and sees that you're just that mother and daughter
are already on the sort of road to probably some
relationship issues in the future. So yeah, it's bad, but
there's always something that you've learned through it where you
can teach your kid about the way that life.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
William is Matt love your work. Thanks very much for
that call. Eighteen away from eight Lines of Open on
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Peter welcome.
Speaker 12 (30:46):
Hey, Darcy, I've got a different take on this, or
an interesting take. So I play rugby. I'm sixty five,
I still play rugby and what position hooker?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Nice?
Speaker 12 (30:59):
Yeah, but I started playing when I was fifty two,
So I had my first game in rugby at fifty
two and be better yeah yeah, yeah. My parents went
on the side line. I can tell you that, but
I had to train like hell. So now I'm the
oldest person playing in our club, and I think, I
(31:19):
think the oldest in our competition. But I see, you know,
our games are played off and on a Friday night,
and we play a lot of games, and so therefore
the geniors played before us, and I see parents on
the sideline and go, hey, you know, come on, come on,
you can do it, buddy, rap this, that and the
other thing. So I make a point of going up
(31:40):
to those parents and say, hey, listen, you know I'm
in full rugby gear. You ever thought about playing yourself?
And they look at me and go, oh oh, oh, no,
I've got a saw a leg. No no, no, I
used to mean backs going no, no, no, I'm not
fast enough. They're always making excuses, and I said, well, hey,
if you want your kids to play, why don't you
(32:03):
lead them. Why don't you show them that you can train,
that you can get more, you can get fish out,
you can get stronger, and then they are going to
play well. But not if you sit there or stand
there and shout and abuse the referee. And so it's
a really interesting you know, most people, I think in
the years that I've been playing. Only two or three
(32:25):
parents on the sideline have actually tried out for our team,
and I don't think any of them have stayed.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And also try it with a whistle. I think they
can reefs or coach so well. You did never crack
like my knees in five thousand pieces. I couldn't play,
but I could still coach mate.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
I almost had my leg amputated after an injury. I
was in hospital for three weeks and my knee kack
basically came out of my knee, but I was playing.
I was back playing within eight months because I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You wanted to get involved. Hey, Peter, thanks for your call.
Started playing at fifty two. He's still booting up at
sixty five. A hero. Hey Craig, O are you get him?
Speaker 11 (33:11):
And he has a game?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Good? Good?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (33:13):
Impressed? There's not so much country music tonight, so that's
one bonus.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Did I express my distaste rather verbally?
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Did I?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
I've never understood country music, but yeah, I'm going to
a different take on it again. I work with a
guy and the wakady here. He's a referee, part time volunteer.
He's been sixty three and still volunteer's referee, which I
thought was really impressive as he gets out there and
does all that. But he's been a couple of games
where both teams have got into a lot. He had
(33:47):
fight and basically the crowd's joined in as well. He's
just basically walked off Phil Hoppins car and driven home
and goes, I don't want to know about this, he said,
I've had enough. But then he's also had the situation
we've had. I've been to a couple of games helping
out set it up for the game, and the spectator
has been using a referee quite a cop. He's basically
stopped the gay and walked over to the guy abusing
(34:07):
him and goes, right, I'm going to stop the game
until you leave the conflict. After you leave the conflict,
I'll start.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He says.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
I've got all the time in the world. The stands
and wait for the parent to leave, hoping his car
and send the cap back and he goes and start
to the game again. He says, I think because he
said I'm a volunteer, I don't have to put up
with his crep by people. So he basically will quite
often to stop the game and say, hey, you need
to back up your ideas if you keep on going.
He's often a couple of times they should given spectators
yellow cards and so go call off a ten minutes
(34:34):
and come back and said we don't need this on
the field because a lot of the kids are you know,
young kids trying to learn the out of rugby and
all that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
They have some fun with their friends and they must
be so ashamed and embarrassed. And the problem here, Craig
is if their parents behave like that, that learned behavior
trickles down to the next generation and so on and
so on. The trick is not the ambulance at the
bottom of the cliff, which is the reaction of the referee.
(35:04):
It's trying to stop it nippet at that level beforehand,
so people don't indulge in that kind of behavior.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
It's yeah, because he gives up a lot of his
time for refereeing. I mean he's doing a big sports
thing up and look on the last weekend and did
about twelve or eighteen k's on his footbot of running
around for the day. So it's a lot of games.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
But my view is like a.
Speaker 13 (35:29):
Younger kids of that age, they're learning to see whether
they liked the sport or not or whatever, and they're
having fun and just enjoying it. And most of those
kids don't really care where they want to lose. They're
having fun with their friends, are having a game. But
the parents seem to take it to the same sort
of level as the all blacks, and it's like, well,
in some ways, I think you're going to discourage some
kids from playing because they're going to go, well, it's
a bit of a pressure. Really, all of these enjoying,
(35:50):
even the other.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Kids, And what am I doing this for? The guy
over there is mouthing off at me some of the
better ways that he was just a point in laugh.
It's like, really, that's all you got? Coming up next,
and Andrew mcaleb, it's like aggression on the side. I'd
line to aggression in the ring or what a great conjuit.
(36:10):
It is controlled aggression. Well done, Andy Duff, producer Duff
put it in my place. Big fight coming up tomorrow.
It could be a champion of the world. Andre Makaylovitch
find out more with him coming up next here on
New stig zb It's twelve eight. We're joined in now
(36:31):
by Andre Mikaylovitch, who was on the verge of becoming
a world champion. Massive scrap tomorrow. Andre, Welcome to the show.
We've been following you for a while now. This is
it after the false start about a month ago. Wow,
here we go again. You almost can't believe it's actually
happening after last time.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Man, it's been crazy. It's been a crazy few months
in my life. My life's pretty wild as it is.
But this is another day, paradise real way and now
so I get to eat, I get to refuel, and
I'm happy as Larry Man, and I can't complain and
I can't wait for itsorry.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You got through the way and find a big I
did not get through first time around, but he got
there this time. Was there a bit of trepidation around
whether it actually make.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Weight, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
But like at the end of the day, like I
can't control what the weather does.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Man. You can paint a pretty picture, but you can't
predict the weather. And that is what it has been.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I can only really look after what I'm doing and
what I'm about. So that was that if he made
where he made weight. If he didn't, he didn't, man,
there was something much I could do about it.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
So I just worried about myself.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Quite an exchange earlier in the piece of the press conference,
your coach Isaac Peage didn't take a backward step, he
let loose.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I think if you're if you're going to try and like,
I don't know if there's some harder war, trying to
be peaceful before the storm.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't know what it is, man, But you know,
sometimes when life gets things get heated and you just
deal with it and then you move on. You can't
like look look at stuff too much and overanalyze it.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
It was what it was and it happened. Then we're
finding tomorrow and that's that. Or she wroted baby.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So you're pretty good not carrying this into fights. You
can separate this and put it to one side before
for the bell rings.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah. I'm a I'm a professional fighter. Man.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
My job is to entertain and to perform, and that's
what I do. Like none of us means all this,
anything in the gym, anything in the boxing ring. I'm
one hundred percent serious, hundred focus anything outside of the
ring in terms of meeting and that it's all a
big Floyd. It's a big game. And to be honest,
I'm here, it's entertained and make sure you guys enjoy
the show. And so far you guys have so like.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
I don't know why anyone's complaining.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I think it's part of the fight game to build
up all of it. It's all part of what it delivers.
And it's part of your sponsorship too. Who's been looking
at after you? They name checks some sponsors from me Andre,
who are your friends?
Speaker 8 (38:42):
So I've got can we not do that right now?
We got a PM.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Reliable Performance, Murtos with Mike, they look after me, Big
time Glass Projects with Murray Clark, He's a g he
helps me out. Dan Hannay from Hannay Lawyers and Jack
Colinson's from Colinson's for X and special shout out to
Peach Boxing because they've looked after me for years and
years and some all my family and my best friends that.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
Are walking round with me right now. About them, I
would be anything. So it's all good.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You're entourage. How many people have traveled with you? What
kind of support do you get from them?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I don't know quite a few, but it's not really
my job to worry about that. I think, you know,
I think everyone's of age and adults.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
And stuff like that, so they can sort themselves out.
But I know I've had like lots and lots of
messages and phone calls and that.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
And I really really appreciate it. But I'm thankful. I'm
just thankful to be here, and I'm thinking thankful for
the support that I get in life. It's really really nice.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Has anything changed since Yanna Beek didn't make weight? You've
been waiting around about a month. Now, what's alter? What's
adjusted for you as far as your preparation if anything?
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Well, like, we were real lucky because we had ten
weeks in Vegas. Sorry, we had ten weeks before the
Vegas Showdown where we went over to Australia and we
had to do all our prep work there which was good, which.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
I really enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And then we'd already owned out all the game plan stuff.
So when this four weeks came off just refreshing. Well,
we knew and we went in with another lab of
confidence as well, so that was all good.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's the waiting game, though, must be frustrating. But you
said you separate all that from what you do in
the gym and doing the ring, So not a problem
that that month of passing around.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
No, it was actually really good because I got to
go and spend time with my kids in that because
I spent ah man like I am about to. I
have a diary and I think twenty of the weeks
leading up to the July fight I had been away
from my kids, so I found that really hard. So
to be actually at home with them and take my
boat out on the water of them was really awesome
and I really enjoyed it. So it was nice to
have some family time. It was really, really, really fun.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Technically, andre you're not going to go like a bull
of the gate. You're not going to run out and
win millim straight away. You're going to actually work your
way into this fighter. Am I completely wrong?
Speaker 8 (40:58):
Well, you have to tune in and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Whether it be first or it's the last, it doesn't know,
it matter because I'm gonna have a blast.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So technically, not going to tell me everything just in
case they're listening. But what predominantly have you worked on?
Where do you see weaknesses? In the reigning world champion.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Where do I see weaknesses?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Oh, he's a good Eastern European boxer, man that has
done a lot of stuff in his amateur career in
that but like I think he's also I think he
is also being backed time what was pr by top rank.
So we'll see, man, We'll see what he brings to
the table.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
If he is, yes, everything will be good man.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
And as far as your confidence always sky higher. But
if you did even daydream about putting that belt on,
is that part of your process? Andre?
Speaker 8 (41:46):
I already feel like I'm all a champion. I'm not
worried about caring abouts.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
That's the attitude. Really looking forward to it. Friday night
going to be huge. And of course you've got Tamo
Motu on the undercart as well, so that works really well.
You've got a real cool New Zealand connection.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, it's fantastic to have me on the undercut.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
MEA's a fantastic fighter. And I can't wait, man, I
just can't wait to be part of the whole show
and deliver.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
And I can't wait to bring that title home to
New Zealand and be a proud champion and represent New
Zealand proudly hear it from.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
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It be fight fight, fight, fight. You gotta pay for it,
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not do on that card as well. I believe I
sages on the undercard. She will beat me and she
sees men. Thanks very much for all of you engagement.
Sorry couldn't get through the text. We had piles of them,
but a lot of them fantastic. This experience about aggression
on the sideline is there needs to be solved any duff.
(42:48):
Thanks for producing the program. My name is Darcy Watergrave.
I'll be back tomorrow from seven here on News Talks ITB.
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I'll wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty. The lines
(01:01):
we'll be open after the conclusion of our first interview,
and that is christ Middlesech, director of football for Northern Rovers.
We're going to broach the constant and alarming subject of
parental aggression on the sideline. This is not about football,
(01:23):
This expands saw a number of different sports at a
number of different levels. How should be approached? How can
it be solved? Is it a case of throwing your
hands in the air and saying, well, people who will
be people will just deal with it? Or does something
need to happen to stop this happening on the sidelines
(01:43):
of sports at all levels. Christians are shortly to talk
about that. Then we'll take your calls on at eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Toward the end of the program,
I catch up with a man who may well become
the IBF Middleway Champion of the world. His name is
Andre Mkaylovitch. He fights tomorrow night. That scrap, of course
(02:03):
delayed a month because his competition missed weight last time. Whoops,
too many pies before the weigh in the wayans just happened.
They're all okay, they're going through. It's fight on tomorrow night.
Mikaylevitch joined us toward the end of the program right
before we go near that. Let's go out and close
(02:24):
to this today and sport today, potential IVF middleweight Champion
of the world. Hold on it's darts. Andre Mkalovich has
dropped some science on defending champ yannabik Adam Hanuli. The
champ has just touched down in Australia for the fight,
(02:44):
flew in for the scrap, so Andre has screwed him
up on the dangers of flight recovery.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You know what jet laggers? Do you know what what
a depletion is? Do you know what happen to see
your skull when you're dehydrated. There's like this layer of
water that protects your brain from the skull. Without that
and without a good liver, those punches are going to
hurt later.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Aha.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The Silver fans are looking down the barrel of a gun.
Sin of a gun. Some of this beastie boys, I'm
sorry about that. They're looking down the barrel of a
potential downtrow at the hands of the English captain Amelia
Anakinaccio has pretty much laid it down.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
We're about to find out what we're really made of.
I think going into this last game, our backsro against
the wall and yeah, I think we've just got to
see people come out firing.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Assaulter of golf balls Ryan Fox as a cunning plan
to secure his PGA card the next season.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
The idea is to give myself four weeks to get
the job done and then come home and do the
rehab and the rest and everything that's required to sort
out what's going on with the hip. If it doesn't
go to plan, I might have to receive that.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We think rehab recover. Keeper Alex Paulson has had a
stunning twelve months, which is continued with the young All
White number one being voted the twenty twenty four PFA
Young Men's Player of the Year by his fellow A
League professionals.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
To be given an opportunity by Chip to be involved
with the ways of Phoenix and you know, be the
number one there was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I know he's going to be lining up against Chief
Jean Calotaliana, who's the head coach of Aukland City's a
league rival, the Phoenix. And that's sport today. We're talking
sideline behavior now, mostly good when it's bad, though it
is hideous. We're joined by Chris Millict, director of football
(04:34):
for the Northern Rovers and always great to have you
on board. Chris may be not in the best circumstances,
but it is something we have to talk about.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Well, thanks for having me and yeah, this is an
issue that we've all got to confront.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think we're basing this on the Alleleie FC coach
hospitalized after allegedly being struck by a parent and junior
Auckland football in the tournament. That's been reported by our
new selling Herol Bonnie Jansen across that one and after,
of course the referee was hit from behind a big
(05:13):
back push after awarding a penalty try in a game
over the weekend in rugby. It keeps happening now, Chris,
to a lot of us, We'll go okay, these are outliers.
These are people that from time to time blow their call.
I suppose we have to accept it, but you're involved
at that level, you see it. It's a lot deeper
(05:34):
than that, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah, it is deeper than that.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
I think fundamentally, there's clearly an explosion in these people's
brains because there is no good outcome for them. The
player they're desperately trying to do something with will get
removed from the club, they'll get bands, et cetera, et cetera.
So they are the outlier because the violence is the
outlier because it is very rare. Well, what's not rare
(06:02):
is the instances of parents arguing with each other on
the sideline from opposite and teams yelling instructions at the referee,
making sure the referee or the linesman.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
Is getting a verbal in the year.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
It also goes down to the point where the parents
are yelling instructions their own children, and all of it
is endemic of, in my opinion, a pursuit not to
embarrass the parents. So I think a lot of it's
tied up with the fact that my little Johnny or
little Jane's going to play a game and I'm not
going to let them fail so that I don't get
(06:37):
embarrassed when she fails or he fails. And that's the
only reason I can think it happens, because every piece
of research will tell you the more you yell instructions
at your kids, the less likely they are to develop
any skills that will be commenceate with.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
The level you think they're going to play with.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
And the more you yell at other parents and you
perform on the sidelines, your kids tend to not want
to continue to play sport because they're fundamentally embarrassed.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Parents can't see, which I find utterly bizarre that they
don't realize the effect they're having not only on their children,
but on other children and on other parents. The Yes,
maybe the violence doesn't rear its ugly head all the time,
but the verbal violence does. How can this be curbed?
(07:26):
Chris and your experience, because you've been around the trap
for quite some time.
Speaker 7 (07:30):
I think it's there is. It's not a simple fix.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
It's on an easy fix, but it's a pretty It
needs to happen. I believe that what needs to happen
is the children in a team need to come together
with their coach or a manager or someone within the club,
and they put down almost the behavior that they will.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Accept from their parents.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
And then you've got to bring the parents in and
you explain the children which to talk to you. The
children then say, we don't want to be yelled at.
We just want to be supported. You've got to get
us to training, but we don't want you on the field.
We don't want you yelling at coaches, we don't want
you young at referees. And the parents then have to
sign something because in signing that they agreed to not
a code of conduct, but they agree to a manner
(08:14):
of behavior that their own children will find acceptable. And
I think that that's quite confronting to a lot of
parents that suddenly you're not in charge of this child.
The child is telling you what they are prepared to
accept playing their sport. And in that case, the parents
(08:34):
can either go, well, I don't do that, and the
kid can go okay, fine, But the moment they step
over that line, that the coach or the manager has
every right to say, look, you sign this document and
you're outside the bounds of what has been accepted as
the values of this football team.
Speaker 7 (08:51):
And I think the more ownership we can give to
the children and their environment, and not necessarily the coach,
but the children.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Gives them the power to say to mom and dad,
please don't yell at me when I'm playing football or
playing netball or whatever. You've somehow got to make people
aware that their behavior is so counterproductive to the child,
to the environment, and what's going on, that you are
the baddie. Now most of them say, well, it's not me,
(09:19):
it's eavn me. The ninety five percent of people are brilliant.
It's at five percent. But if you go talk to
the five percent, they go, they go, yeah, those people
are really bad, and you're going that there's a total
disconnect between their behavior and what they think they're doing.
So it's kind of like a mental block. They can't
even hear themselves doing it, and they think they're helping.
(09:40):
I don't know what they think they're doing, but it's
really that is the best way I found to make it.
Parents back off almost.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Chris middle saise, that's putting a lot of pressure on
the kids, though a lot of responsibility on them to
in essence, confront their parents to go this is not
good enough, is it entirely right.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
You say that.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
But the weird thing is if that all the kids
do it together, that the parents that are the bad
ones will get policed by the other parents on the sideline,
not by the children. So if you had ten groups
of pearents in a group, and there's one set that
are just one of these types of pearance, and the
other nine have signed the singer all standing sielin, and
(10:23):
the parents start yelling someone next to them, we go, hoy,
we don't do that, And suddenly there's a reminder there.
So the children aren't the ones managing that. It's actually
been managed by the other parents and the team. Because
human beings follow the pack, you know, and it can
become quite confronting when somebody within your so called pack
or group says to you, oh, we've all agreed not
(10:45):
to do this, let's cut that out. And then it
does give the next tool. If it continues that you
can actually lift it to higher levels. And people now
need to be kicked out of clubs. It's happened at
our club, et cetera, et cetera, it happens at most clubs.
People now need to be removed from the club and
said you are no longer welcoming this club.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Please leave.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Your behavior is not suitable the values that we hold dear.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Because that then scends a pretty distinct message.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Sure they'll go to another club, but that if all
the clubs did that, they would very quickly find themselves
know where to go. The incidence on the weekend that
parent from whichever club it was, he would have been
behaving with intensity, not just over the weekend, He'd have
been doing it for quite some time, and nobody has
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pulled them up. I often say to people, people go, oh,
the club does this, and the club does that and
this thing.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
No, we are the club.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Everybody in a club is the club, the values of
the club. What they'll accept, what they don't accept is
the club. As adults in youth sport, every adult there
has to have be empowered to go, hey, we've agreed
to this.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
You need to stop.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And if they continue, don't confront them, just raise it
to another level. And then the club or the management
of the next level's got to say, you're now band
for four weeks, you now a lot to come in.
We had an instance of racism, northern robism and the
group that we're doing it they were suspended for a
long period of time this year, and it's sort of
it all out instead of thinking we've got to try
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and soak up humanity's ills, as it were, everybody has
to be brave enough to say we don't accept that behavior,
please leave.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Where's the behavior the worst? From what you've seen? Is
it more of it?
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Parents?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
At the youth level? Does it expand as they go
through the grades? Is there a hot point for this?
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Well?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
I think if you go back to young as in
young under nige, there's an I call them the helicopter parents.
But kids are running around the field and parents are
right on the sideline. They're desperate to step over that sideline,
especially with the kid that might be standing steering at
the sky, but they don't. They want the kids to
all be doing it. So that's the start of it
where they're kind of like, oh, I've got to get
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in there, and I've got to you know, I've got
to help. And then when they go into more structured
sporting environments whatever it may be, they are then going
their whole thing there as I don't want my kid
to miss out from the top teams the bottom teams.
This team that team. They're in there, and I put
it all down to a fear of missing out. But
when it starts still really seem to hit. Is that
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moment when mum or dad goes, my kid's not that good,
and the moment they do that, for whatever reason, kid
might want to play the sport he came He or
she doesn't care they can't run as fast as the others.
They might have skills in other areas, But the moment
that happens, that's when it hits. The parents are now
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actively saying, I'm going to make sure my boy or
my girl ends up on the highest team I can.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
I'm going to make sure I manage this team.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I'm going to make sure and on the weekend when
something goes against them or the referees picking and I'm
going to make sure my kid knows that I'm in
there and I'm supporting. And they think it's about supporting
the kid because they're in there trying to make sure
that everything they think he.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Or she wants they're going to deliver it.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Instead of saying you're on your own single swim and
you go see what happens, which is the whole point
of sport, They're in there with a fear of missing
out and ensuring that their child has the opportunity to
play in whatever team they deem suitable. And they never
ever think if you put a kid in a team
or in an environment which they're not quite capable of
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doing it, it will destroy their confidence, it will destroy
their ability because that kid sits there going I really
shouldn't be in this team, but I'm in this team.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
It's a miserable environment for them to be in by themselves.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Nomo, we've got the breakdown on sports talks.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Chris Millers is the director of Fortball Northern Rovers, talking
about aggression on the sideline from parents from a very
young age and it carries on and on and on.
You all would have experience this there if it's your children.
That's sport, and it does tend to happen at a
younger level of parents living vicariously through their children because
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they failed dismally and push all this rubbish on their
poor kids. But you see it as the grades go up,
and you see it as we get into other sports.
This is not just football. It's a football, This is rugby,
this is rugby league that and sadly we see the
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brutal peak of it. But underneath that level it is,
as Chris said, endemic and it's horrible. What is the
reason for this? You've had experience out that you've watched this,
you've seen this, Maybe you've been guilty of doing this.
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Not punching the coach in the face, not pushing a
referee blindsided in the back, but the verbal, the vocal
aggression and violence on the sideline. It's the responsibility of
the club. The responsibility of the club, which has Chris
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pointed out, the club is the people who make up
the club. You are the club. So what has to happen,
What is the reason for it? What is the best
way to deal with this? What is the way forward?
Because it's a sporting shame. Really interested in your thoughts
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on this, onwithstanding dealing with poor behavior within predominantly social
football from a younger level, right the way up? Why
do you do it? How can it be curtailed and controlled?
What happens?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Who's responsible? At eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. I
love your thoughts on this because it affects the youth
and they're playing on the park and they're seeing their
parents getting all lippy and foul mouthed and having a
crack and a go, and their faces going red, with
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spittle pouncing out from betwixt their lips. What does it
say to them about sport? Doesn't say that it's fun,
does it? It says it's horrible and they don't play anymore. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Rage is the reason.
Vicarious parents is the reason. Frustration is the reason. How
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can that be curtailed? What has to happen to stop this?
Your calls? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, this
is News TALKSZB. You're on Sports Talk. My name's Darcy
looking Ford to yarning with you give us a ring.
It's twenty four past seven.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
That's dangerously.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Forget the riffs. Call you make a call on eighty
Sports Talk on your home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It balks.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Seven Sports Talk. Care on that News Talks.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
Here'd be.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Let's set the phones running our eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty Richard welcome. What's on your mind?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Okay?
Speaker 9 (18:40):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (18:41):
How you got good?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
A good topic? No, super good? I don't really know
how to deal with those apparents of coach cricket. For
a long time. So it's not solely in soccer or football.
I think it's right across the board.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I think neat ball it's in there as well. We
get a bit of agree to your sideline. Cricket's supposed
to be a relaxed, gentlemen's game, but it gets nasty.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 10 (19:19):
Well?
Speaker 8 (19:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean the idea, of course is say, look the
people on the side, on their parents in the club,
they've got to get together and we need to stop
this out for internally.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, I agreed, I look quite grumpy. I'm pretty big.
So they start and then they stop when I do
the frown thing. But you know, not all coaches like me.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
How does the materialize in cricket? What actually happens as
an umpire attacks is what X goes on.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yep, here it is. I mean we're out there. I
only do junior cricket. I gave up on the senior stuff.
But I'm out there with the with the iPad now,
so I'm scoring and then you'll hear it them on
the sideline going off for you. So you have a
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little chat to them afterwards, obviously, and most of them
quite en up.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
After that, it's almost like it's a release passage. We're
on the sideline. We can say what we want.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Well you can't.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Oh no you can't, mate, not if I'm out there
working for nothing. So I don't know, mate, It's good
you're bringing it up. At least, you know, people might
might realize, hey, we're volunteers. Just be a little bit quieter,
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and you know, we're there to get the kids to
enjoy the.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Game first and almost it is about enjoyable the game
point zero zero zero five percent, Like I'm pulling that
figure out of my backside. But such a tiny amount
of young players in any sport go on to be professionals,
go on to reach the very top of nobody does.
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So what's the pressure? You get your kids? Your children
into sport so they can be physical, so they can
enjoy the camaraderie of their friends. They can have a
good time, and that is the main thing. If you're
solely in, they go, my son's going to be the
next David Beckham and you're attacking everybody to help them up.
What the kid's going to hate you?
Speaker 8 (21:34):
Right?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
I got your mate, Yeah, on your origin.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Mate, you do a great job getting out there volunteering.
That's the key thing. So many volunteers out there, so
many Hi, Jeff, how oh sorry, wrong line? Oops, Sorry, Craig,
I called you, Jeff, how are you?
Speaker 11 (21:51):
That's a right mate. I can be Jeff if you like, No.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Be Craig. I'm sure you're much better at it, all right.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
Hey, look, just really I've sort of experienced this from
a lot of different perspects, if you like. Like I
played rugby at a high level at high school and
had great coaches and things, and occasionally you'd have that
one parent that just, you know, from whatever team you're
you're playing, or even on your own team that just
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didn't get it that it's just the boys working out themselves.
I've got a coach. We don't need outside interference too much.
Like we're learning, you know. That's that's what that age
of you know, we're young and playing sports. It's you're learning.
You only you're going to get confused if there's too
many people telling you what to do, right, Yeah, I
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just think that that watching my nephew and so it's
my brother was on the sidelines and very vocal and
way too much to do with it and kind of
annoying people.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
If I wanted to do it, Craig go off to
a club, join the club and become a coach.
Speaker 11 (23:03):
Well that's it. But but yeah, but unfortunately those are
not the sort of people who you'd want vacations mate.
To a certain degree, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
It's do these people realize what they're doing? Because Christmas
it's made the point that some people say, oh, yeah,
these parents are terrible, yet they do it themselves. Is
there self awareness amongst the segment of society.
Speaker 11 (23:25):
I actually think that it's a self awareness thing or
a feeling of bigger and better than everybody else around
them kind of thing. It's either narcissism or the opposite.
You can know what I mean. And I think those parents,
you see them all the time, and I went on
to race mountain bikes a very high level and the
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majority of parents are really cool. They're just so supportive
of the kids. Yet just one or two who just
want to they don't want to listen to the experts.
They think that they know better. You know, it's a
hard one to deal with, and especially and kid sports,
mostly in.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Kids sports, because it puts them off playing the game.
And that's what we want. We want engage children who's socializing,
get a bit fitter, learn something new, and that environment.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That was going to do it.
Speaker 11 (24:24):
Yeah, I mean this is the thing that's like, I
love playing sport. I was never a world champion, you
know what I mean. You don't need to be. You
can still enjoy sport and you've brought up. It teaches
you about discipline, exercise, mental, physical, It teaches you about
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interacting with other people, working with other people. There's just
so many tools that you've been handed to when you're
playing sport at that level and just need to sort
of back out a little bit because those are really
important skills and your mum and dad can't teach you everything.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No they can't, but sometimes, Craig and thanks for you call,
they think they can. And it is only occasionally when
it gets physically violent, much more often when the aggression
is vocal. A small percentage of people behavior in the sidelines.
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It doesn't mean to say you throw your hands and go,
oh well, people will be people and solvers right, make
steps towards solving this our eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty Jeff, good day to you, Hello, Jeff, Hi.
Speaker 10 (25:39):
Hi, Yeah, I just wanted to talk about this aggression
on the sideline by people. Now, I coached a junior
soccer team and I was a voluntary coach, and it
wasn't all appearance, but some of them were so rude
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yelling at the kids on the soccer field.
Speaker 12 (26:05):
So I we.
Speaker 10 (26:09):
From another club, another soccer team. I came to an
agreeance with this referee because we reffed a coach and reffed,
and I came up with a thing that if this happened,
we go up to those parents and say, hey, the
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kids don't need this. This is silly what you're saying.
These kids are only nine and ten years of age.
They're not going to go. They're not all going to
get to the World Cup. Mate, But please don't be
so rude and discussing on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And I think that standing up, Jeff, and thanks very
much for your call to these people not in an
aggressive manner. There's not going to work. It's just like
stating effect is essentially helpful. You'd like to think, as
I like to say, though you can lead a horse
toward her, invariable it drowns. You don't know how people
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are going to react in that situation. Maybe if it's
a situation where they lose access to the club and
that punishes the child. Granted, So where's your level? What
do you do ostracize the individual? Does the referee stop
the game? To the parents crowd around? It's a real issue.
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Oh one, ten eighty, give us a call. I love
to hear from here. Twenty four away from eights. This
this news talk ZB.
Speaker 10 (27:41):
To sweat.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Twenty eight sports talk here on a news talker, Z
to B and we're talking behavior on the sideline from parents,
from fans, predominantly from parents. Wait on it and get
a mac. What have you got for us?
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Yeah, evening?
Speaker 10 (28:08):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You're good?
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Good?
Speaker 12 (28:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (28:10):
Also, Matte, I'm living through this right now. I've got
two daughters, ten and twelve, both playing neppal in a
certain part of Auckland I won't say where. Yeah, certain
parents are very concerned with promoting their own children into positions.
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You can get emotionally charged by the behavior that you
see and the manipulation that goes on. But I guess
I'll give you another take on the way. I've kind
of worked through that with my daughter. She also umpires,
and we haven't brought that up that umpires also on
the end of a lot of abuse from parents. I
guess the first point I'll make is I think the
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love that parents have for their kids in these situations
ends up hurting the parent and the kid where they
are unable to separate that kind of deep love and
the promotion of their own child and the situation that
they find themselves in a huge lack of awareness that
goes on. So I'm looking at that happening in front
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of me, and I just was looking for an opportunity
to kind of teach my daughter something through that, because
she wanted to play a certain position through the politics
of the team, ends up not in that position or
whatever it may be. It doesn't matter what the specifics
are trying to teach you that actually, you know, this
is what real life is like. This is what people
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do to promote themselves or promote their children. And when
she kind of thought of that instead of getting upset
about not where she was and I said, look, just
do your best. It may not falll your way inevitably anyway.
So season goes on, and the daughter of that particular parent,
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she came back and told me the wedge that is
coming between the mother and daughter because of that behavior
already at that young age was already happening. So I
guess she she kind of sees that there's no real
fruits in behaving that way, either for parent or not
for me to get all piped up and start, you know,
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throwing my weight around, but also for her it would
be quite embarrassing. So she sees the embarrassment with that
kid and sees that you're just that mother and daughter
are already on the sort of road to probably some
relationship issues in the future. So yeah, it's bad, but
there's always something that you've learned through it where you
can teach your kid about the way that life.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
William is Matt love your work. Thanks very much for
that call. Eighteen away from eight Lines of Open on
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Peter welcome.
Speaker 12 (30:46):
Hey, Darcy, I've got a different take on this, or
an interesting take. So I play rugby. I'm sixty five,
I still play rugby and what position hooker?
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Nice?
Speaker 12 (30:59):
Yeah, but I started playing when I was fifty two,
So I had my first game in rugby at fifty
two and be better yeah yeah, yeah. My parents went
on the side line. I can tell you that, but
I had to train like hell. So now I'm the
oldest person playing in our club, and I think, I
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think the oldest in our competition. But I see, you know,
our games are played off and on a Friday night,
and we play a lot of games, and so therefore
the geniors played before us, and I see parents on
the sideline and go, hey, you know, come on, come on,
you can do it, buddy, rap this, that and the
other thing. So I make a point of going up
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to those parents and say, hey, listen, you know I'm
in full rugby gear. You ever thought about playing yourself?
And they look at me and go, oh oh, oh, no,
I've got a saw a leg. No no, no, I
used to mean backs going no, no, no, I'm not
fast enough. They're always making excuses, and I said, well, hey,
if you want your kids to play, why don't you
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lead them. Why don't you show them that you can train,
that you can get more, you can get fish out,
you can get stronger, and then they are going to
play well. But not if you sit there or stand
there and shout and abuse the referee. And so it's
a really interesting you know, most people, I think in
the years that I've been playing. Only two or three
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parents on the sideline have actually tried out for our team,
and I don't think any of them have stayed.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
And also try it with a whistle. I think they
can reefs or coach so well. You did never crack
like my knees in five thousand pieces. I couldn't play,
but I could still coach mate.
Speaker 12 (32:43):
I almost had my leg amputated after an injury. I
was in hospital for three weeks and my knee kack
basically came out of my knee, but I was playing.
I was back playing within eight months because I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You wanted to get involved. Hey, Peter, thanks for your call.
Started playing at fifty two. He's still booting up at
sixty five. A hero. Hey Craig, O are you get him?
Speaker 11 (33:11):
And he has a game?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Good? Good?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (33:13):
Impressed? There's not so much country music tonight, so that's
one bonus.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Did I express my distaste rather verbally?
Speaker 8 (33:21):
Did I?
Speaker 11 (33:22):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
I've never understood country music, but yeah, I'm going to
a different take on it again. I work with a
guy and the wakady here. He's a referee, part time volunteer.
He's been sixty three and still volunteer's referee, which I
thought was really impressive as he gets out there and
does all that. But he's been a couple of games
where both teams have got into a lot. He had
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fight and basically the crowd's joined in as well. He's
just basically walked off Phil Hoppins car and driven home
and goes, I don't want to know about this, he said,
I've had enough. But then he's also had the situation
we've had. I've been to a couple of games helping
out set it up for the game, and the spectator
has been using a referee quite a cop. He's basically
stopped the gay and walked over to the guy abusing
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him and goes, right, I'm going to stop the game
until you leave the conflict. After you leave the conflict,
I'll start.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
He says.
Speaker 13 (34:12):
I've got all the time in the world. The stands
and wait for the parent to leave, hoping his car
and send the cap back and he goes and start
to the game again. He says, I think because he
said I'm a volunteer, I don't have to put up
with his crep by people. So he basically will quite
often to stop the game and say, hey, you need
to back up your ideas if you keep on going.
He's often a couple of times they should given spectators
yellow cards and so go call off a ten minutes
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and come back and said we don't need this on
the field because a lot of the kids are you know,
young kids trying to learn the out of rugby and
all that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
They have some fun with their friends and they must
be so ashamed and embarrassed. And the problem here, Craig
is if their parents behave like that, that learned behavior
trickles down to the next generation and so on and
so on. The trick is not the ambulance at the
bottom of the cliff, which is the reaction of the referee.
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It's trying to stop it nippet at that level beforehand,
so people don't indulge in that kind of behavior.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
It's yeah, because he gives up a lot of his
time for refereeing. I mean he's doing a big sports
thing up and look on the last weekend and did
about twelve or eighteen k's on his footbot of running
around for the day. So it's a lot of games.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
But my view is like a.
Speaker 13 (35:29):
Younger kids of that age, they're learning to see whether
they liked the sport or not or whatever, and they're
having fun and just enjoying it. And most of those
kids don't really care where they want to lose. They're
having fun with their friends, are having a game. But
the parents seem to take it to the same sort
of level as the all blacks, and it's like, well,
in some ways, I think you're going to discourage some
kids from playing because they're going to go, well, it's
a bit of a pressure. Really, all of these enjoying,
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even the other.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Kids, And what am I doing this for? The guy
over there is mouthing off at me some of the
better ways that he was just a point in laugh.
It's like, really, that's all you got? Coming up next,
and Andrew mcaleb, it's like aggression on the side. I'd
line to aggression in the ring or what a great conjuit.
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It is controlled aggression. Well done, Andy Duff, producer Duff
put it in my place. Big fight coming up tomorrow.
It could be a champion of the world. Andre Makaylovitch
find out more with him coming up next here on
New stig zb It's twelve eight. We're joined in now
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by Andre Mikaylovitch, who was on the verge of becoming
a world champion. Massive scrap tomorrow. Andre, Welcome to the show.
We've been following you for a while now. This is
it after the false start about a month ago. Wow,
here we go again. You almost can't believe it's actually
happening after last time.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Man, it's been crazy. It's been a crazy few months
in my life. My life's pretty wild as it is.
But this is another day, paradise real way and now
so I get to eat, I get to refuel, and
I'm happy as Larry Man, and I can't complain and
I can't wait for itsorry.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
You got through the way and find a big I
did not get through first time around, but he got
there this time. Was there a bit of trepidation around
whether it actually make.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Weight, yes or no?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
But like at the end of the day, like I
can't control what the weather does.
Speaker 8 (37:19):
Man. You can paint a pretty picture, but you can't
predict the weather. And that is what it has been.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I can only really look after what I'm doing and
what I'm about. So that was that if he made
where he made weight. If he didn't, he didn't, man,
there was something much I could do about it.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
So I just worried about myself.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Quite an exchange earlier in the piece of the press conference,
your coach Isaac Peage didn't take a backward step, he
let loose.
Speaker 8 (37:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
I think if you're if you're going to try and like,
I don't know if there's some harder war, trying to
be peaceful before the storm.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I don't know what it is, man, But you know,
sometimes when life gets things get heated and you just
deal with it and then you move on. You can't
like look look at stuff too much and overanalyze it.
Speaker 8 (37:57):
It was what it was and it happened. Then we're
finding tomorrow and that's that. Or she wroted baby.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
So you're pretty good not carrying this into fights. You
can separate this and put it to one side before
for the bell rings.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
Yeah. I'm a I'm a professional fighter. Man.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
My job is to entertain and to perform, and that's
what I do. Like none of us means all this,
anything in the gym, anything in the boxing ring. I'm
one hundred percent serious, hundred focus anything outside of the
ring in terms of meeting and that it's all a
big Floyd. It's a big game. And to be honest,
I'm here, it's entertained and make sure you guys enjoy
the show. And so far you guys have so like.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
I don't know why anyone's complaining.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I think it's part of the fight game to build
up all of it. It's all part of what it delivers.
And it's part of your sponsorship too. Who's been looking
at after you? They name checks some sponsors from me Andre,
who are your friends?
Speaker 8 (38:42):
So I've got can we not do that right now?
We got a PM.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Reliable Performance, Murtos with Mike, they look after me, Big
time Glass Projects with Murray Clark, He's a g he
helps me out. Dan Hannay from Hannay Lawyers and Jack
Colinson's from Colinson's for X and special shout out to
Peach Boxing because they've looked after me for years and
years and some all my family and my best friends that.
Speaker 8 (39:03):
Are walking round with me right now. About them, I
would be anything. So it's all good.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You're entourage. How many people have traveled with you? What
kind of support do you get from them?
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I don't know quite a few, but it's not really
my job to worry about that. I think, you know,
I think everyone's of age and adults.
Speaker 8 (39:21):
And stuff like that, so they can sort themselves out.
But I know I've had like lots and lots of
messages and phone calls and that.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
And I really really appreciate it. But I'm thankful. I'm
just thankful to be here, and I'm thinking thankful for
the support that I get in life. It's really really nice.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Has anything changed since Yanna Beek didn't make weight? You've
been waiting around about a month. Now, what's alter? What's
adjusted for you as far as your preparation if anything?
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Well, like, we were real lucky because we had ten
weeks in Vegas. Sorry, we had ten weeks before the
Vegas Showdown where we went over to Australia and we
had to do all our prep work there which was good, which.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
I really enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
And then we'd already owned out all the game plan stuff.
So when this four weeks came off just refreshing. Well,
we knew and we went in with another lab of
confidence as well, so that was all good.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's the waiting game, though, must be frustrating. But you
said you separate all that from what you do in
the gym and doing the ring, So not a problem
that that month of passing around.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
No, it was actually really good because I got to
go and spend time with my kids in that because
I spent ah man like I am about to. I
have a diary and I think twenty of the weeks
leading up to the July fight I had been away
from my kids, so I found that really hard. So
to be actually at home with them and take my
boat out on the water of them was really awesome
and I really enjoyed it. So it was nice to
have some family time. It was really, really, really fun.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Technically, andre you're not going to go like a bull
of the gate. You're not going to run out and
win millim straight away. You're going to actually work your
way into this fighter. Am I completely wrong?
Speaker 8 (40:58):
Well, you have to tune in and see what happens.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Whether it be first or it's the last, it doesn't know,
it matter because I'm gonna have a blast.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So technically, not going to tell me everything just in
case they're listening. But what predominantly have you worked on?
Where do you see weaknesses? In the reigning world champion.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
Where do I see weaknesses?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Oh, he's a good Eastern European boxer, man that has
done a lot of stuff in his amateur career in
that but like I think he's also I think he
is also being backed time what was pr by top rank.
So we'll see, man, We'll see what he brings to
the table.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
If he is, yes, everything will be good man.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
And as far as your confidence always sky higher. But
if you did even daydream about putting that belt on,
is that part of your process? Andre?
Speaker 8 (41:46):
I already feel like I'm all a champion. I'm not
worried about caring abouts.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
That's the attitude. Really looking forward to it. Friday night
going to be huge. And of course you've got Tamo
Motu on the undercart as well, so that works really well.
You've got a real cool New Zealand connection.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, it's fantastic to have me on the undercut.
Speaker 8 (42:05):
MEA's a fantastic fighter. And I can't wait, man, I
just can't wait to be part of the whole show
and deliver.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
And I can't wait to bring that title home to
New Zealand and be a proud champion and represent New
Zealand proudly hear it from.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
The biggest names and sports and men. Have your say
on eighty Sports Talk, on your whole of sports News Talks.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
It be fight fight, fight, fight. You gotta pay for it,
do it go on you know you want to. You'm
not do on that card as well. I believe I
sages on the undercard. She will beat me and she
sees men. Thanks very much for all of you engagement.
Sorry couldn't get through the text. We had piles of them,
but a lot of them fantastic. This experience about aggression
on the sideline is there needs to be solved any duff.
(42:48):
Thanks for producing the program. My name is Darcy Watergrave.
I'll be back tomorrow from seven here on News Talks ITB.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
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