October 24, 2024 • 43 mins
ZB's own D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Hamish McLennan - Former Chairman of Rugby Australia
Rachin Ravindra - Blackcaps batsman
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up and tonight's sedition of Sports Talk. We're gonna finish
things off of Russian Revender black Caps bat Second Test
US tomorrow afternoon in India? Can they replicate the heroics
of the first Test? India making a pitch to suit themselves? Surprise, surprise?
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How is a Ruschen and his teammates? How are they
going to respond to that roll black mud? That doesn't
bounce class act there from the Indians? But hey, it's
their test series. It's at home. That's the way things wrong.
Rutchan joins us toward the end of the show. Hamos
mcclennan is our first guest former chair of Rugby Australia.
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He's been calling on through Cidy Morning Herald the Australian
Rugby should start signing top NRL players Calen Ponnett Nathan
Clary for example, and that's the way they're going to
save the game. I'm not convinced. Hopefully Hamish can convince
me up after that will get your thoughts. So eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Should Rugby actually be chasing
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superstars to grow this product and in general to code
hoppers the superstars do they actually get people along the game,
do they get bums on seats? Do they generate interest?
Or is it all smoke and mirrors. There's been some good,
some bad and some ugly. We'll talk about that and
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we'll get your calls on our eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. But like we always do, before we get
amongst that, let's get all over this score today and
it's more today. It's been a while for fresh All
Black Billy Proctor. Sent has been patiently training, not appearing
in the game Day twenty three for six consecutive tests
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after debuting against Fiji. He's back on Saturday, but he's
used his time away to good effect as.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Felt like while.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But you know, I've just been in the environment and
just been leaning off the other boys who have been playing,
just soaking up.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I guess all their knowledge and yes, must be out
there again.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Silver fans playing are ossies at their own game, physicality
and a and not the solder name of the tourists,
says mid quarter Maddie Gordon.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We know as soon as we step on that court,
before the whistle was even blowing, that they'll come and
had us and check us.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
So that's exactly what we wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And we just wanted to show them that, hey, you
can do that to us, because we're just going to
do it just as good.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And apologies because I think I called Maddy Gordon Maddy
Green last night. Sorry. Constellation Cup Game two underweight shortly
Kimi Squatch number one. Joel King has her eyes on
an Olympic prize, especially now that the common up experience
has been extinguished. Squashes out the Common Game's flag bearer
and eight time medalist. She's not upset, she's just looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
At the start. It was a bit of a joke, really,
but even this Olympics, it was really interesting to see
there was actually a lot of older athletes and older
athletes that were actually winning medals. So let's just throw
my name in the hat and see where it takes
me and a twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fear old back roller Jordan Niki has been named on
events for this weekend's QBV Kangaroo Class or debut for
the team after missing a chance to do the same
last year through injury.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Extremely guarded to miss out last year. I had to
go straight in the surgery.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So I'm hugually greatfulm of blessed to be able to
be back in the and file of the boys.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And you know you probably couldn't write a bit of
script really.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And that's sport today. Ten past seven, this is Sports
Talk on a News Talks there b Form, chair of
Rugby Australia Hammers McKinnon joins us now talking around the
possibility of Nathan Cleary, maybe even Calen Ponger joining Rugby
or being popes from rugby to try and save the game.
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A call of course, Nathan Cleary, it's very interesting one
in the hamoush So what do you base this interest on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Look, there's been some informal outreaches in the past. I mean,
I'm obviously not at Rugby Australia now, but after we
signed Joseph, who I think is one Sinner General Nation
talent and he's already paid for himself at RAM, mind you,
but it was interesting that the Nine Network went to
clear at the time that we signed Sowali and they
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said what do you think? And I think most sort
of market observers felt the Cleary would have sort of
rejected the idea that if you look at the tape
at the time, he was sort of open to the
idea of moving to rugby because his father coached the Warriors,
as you would know, and he grew up playing rugby
and those two guys are classic examples of players that
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have a rugby heritage who loved the game. And I
guess the backdrop that I sort of need to continue
to explain to Kiwi's is that the AFL and the
NRL are really big sports, much larger here and so
the acquisitions of Joseph and potentially others was always based
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around can they add value to the Wallabies and our
high performance program. But from a secondary point of view,
like you wouldn't believe the fever pitch excitement with Joseph
starting this week, the media has been about him and
you'll have all these rugby league people who don't watch
rugby anymore. He'll be tuning in to see him play,
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and they'll go and watch him play and it'll drive
sponsorship and viewership and ultimately, the plan at the time
when we signed him was to sort of create momentum
in the sports so that when we renewed the media
Rite deal that we'll be able to get more. But
you know, sadly I didn't make it. We didn't get there,
but I think Joseph would be a great addition to
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the Wallay team.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're assertion that he's paid back the investment already, what's
that based on.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, look, don't forget that. You know there are already
players that are running a million dollars plus within rugby.
I won't go into who they are. So there was
an incremental cost to get him across because he has
seen such a great prodigious talent. So the amount of
media coverage we've got, the focus on rugby as a sport,
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and just the fact that he is a first class player.
So you know, mind backing in my belief as was
that he will make a difference. And interestingly, you know,
I still have friends in and around rugby and guys
that are actually playing for the Wallabies, and the anecdotal
feedback that we're getting in because he's such a sort
of versatile utility player, he's already lifting standards, certainly in
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the back line because he comes with a big reputation.
He's tough as our boots and you know, even in
the training sessions, you know he could play inside, outside, center,
the wing or fallback and he's got a great boot.
So everyone I'm hearing is sort of lifting their game
a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
As far as money is concerned, in numbers that way,
there's nothing solid that suggests he's draking extra sponsorship in
that can be relied upon.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Truly to say.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But when I was at Rugby Australia, I had a
very close relationship with a number of the sponsors and
certainly some of some of the larger ones thought it
was such a great idea getting Joseph in, so at
the time it was supported by key sponsors and certainly
I think the media. You know, since since his zion,
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every time we played in rugby league, the commentators would
often talk about the fact that it's making a switch
to rugby union and it's just going to drive viewership.
And again, if RA is smart about it, they'll be
able to crystallize more sponsorship out of the likes of
us like Joseph.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
What about the likes of Nathan Cleary if he would
actually do it or not? And could they afford to
do it, because I'm presuming everybody has a price, but
there's Rugby Australia flash enough to afford to chuck all
that money at him, do you think Hamish?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Look, there is already adplicated budget towards players, So what's
been twisted and misreported is that Joseph's tossed was at
the expense of a whole lot of other costs. Now,
we did pay an incremental amount based on, you know,
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other players in the team, but the reality is that
small the whole scheme of things. So just to put
it in different text, when I started just after raylen
Castle left Rugby Australia during COVID, that first year I
was there, we lost over twenty five million, and three
years later we made a profit of over eight million
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I think it was, and we cut thirty seven million
dollars worth of cost out of the organization in the
first year that I was there, So that was that
was the guarantee survival. So firstly we knew what we
were doing from a financial point of view. Secondly, you're
already paying players, so I was firmly of the view
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you've got to get a handful of superstars in there
because the Wallabies just aren't competitive against the ABS and
All South Africa. We saw in the World Cup. You know,
whether you think Eddie was a good choice or not,
he's got a lot of blame for it. But the
reality is rugby in Australia has underperformed for nearly two decades.
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We haven't won a World Cup since nineteen ninety nine,
we haven't won a Bledisloe in twenty three years, and
the system's broken. And so a team you change the pathways,
get better at recruitment, silis the whole organization. Australian rugby
won't perform to the level. We might win the odd
game against the aa BS and it'll be great, but
the bledder is low is no longer the contest that
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it was, and so I'm kind of trying to still
it down a really fundamental sort of areas, and I
just think the whole thing's broken and sort of. So
to answer your question, yes, you know, I think what
Nathan needs to My understanding is, you know, he's won
four Premierships with Penrith. A fifth would be nice, but
he's still an immortal and he's achieved everything that he
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would want to achieve. And I think the lure of
a home World in Australia and potentially playing lines. I
don't know if he's available. My sense is that if
you could tick that off in your career, that's pretty
pretty special, certainly a home World Cup. So you know,
I don't know. I don't think there's an appetite and
r to go after him, but I certainly would have.
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I would have gone after him half if I was
still there.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Joined by Hamish mccleannan, he's the former chair of Rugby Australia.
How much of this depends on the success of someone
like Joseph if he was a flop, would that effect
the wants of Rugby Australia to go around hunting down
league players. It's quite a big punt.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, my sense is, look, I know who's running the
organization now, there's certainly a more conservative approach to the
way I would have done it. But but the way
it's been running, the passes not work. So like be
an Australia's bail for two decades. If we're honest about it,
I wouldn't have gone after lead people for the sake
of it. But what you'll see with Joe said, look,
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I doubt he'll be a flop. But it's like anything
in life, unless you have a go. But I just
looked on a historical basis, which was why I went
in in twenty twenty during COVID to try and help out.
Was you've got a convention. But I just think what's
plainly evident to me is that you just you just
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look at the system and the fact that we're not
winning major tournaments but a final in twenty fifteen, you've
got to say hi. And so I think, I think
we've lost so many good players to rugby League, and
dare I say it to the AFL, like you think
all that tall Tim that now plays AFL, big players
that could have been in the front and row, they're
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just not there anymore. So I was I was concerned
after we won the hosting rights to the World Cup
in twenty seven in Australia, that we just didn't have
the cattle there, and I think Eddie probably deep down
recognized it, and I think you know ready had the
same issue, and I think Joe Schmidt does. And I
think Joe's everything I hear is it a fabulous coach
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and no doubt, very well credential. But you know, if
you don't have the cattle to work with, then you
don't have you know, you don't have three or four
Angus Bells or Tannyella tupas to call upon, then you've
got to really suffer. And so Joseph, Joseph was one
of hopefully a handful of players that we would have
got in and they could have been rugby that we
got from France or Japan. That our ranks have been
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plundered for a long time and we haven't had a
long term plan. So it was really about shoring up
the Wallabies ahead of a media RTE cycle, the Lions
and the Rugby World Cup in Australia.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Any other players you'd target, obviously you've mentioned Nathan Cleary,
you mentioned maybe rugby players from overseas and the like,
as anywhere else that should be in the cross here
is that would provide that traction that Rugby Australia requires.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Look it's it's look, it's not my call and these
players locked up long term. But yeah, there's a guy
that never played super rugby in Australia who's in Japan,
A young guy called Harry Hopkins who came out of Queensland.
He went, he went straight straight to Japan. There's a
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whole list. And there's Calen Ponger who plays the Newcastle Knight,
so he had a rugby upbringing. So there were so
many players that don't play rugby in Australian now who
could and would be eligible. And so I'm not not
casting any dispersions on any of the current player group,
but we just don't have the depth of the abs
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or the spring box or any matter.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
In my opinion, forget the riffs call. You make a
call on sports Talk on your home of Sports.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Talk pretty passed at seven. That is Hamish mccleanan former
chair of Rugby Australia. He was the man behind the
trapping of Joseph sua Al, dragging him out of rugby
league and putting him into rugby union. Is just being
named in the Wallaby squad to head up to the
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Northern Hemisphere and Hamos reporting or talking being interviewed through
the Sydney Morning Heralds. Look in order for Australia to
get up and get close to the All Blacks, they've
got to raid the banks, the buying stock of the NRL.
That is their only way forward. Joseph has been a
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success with a huge asterisk because he hasn't played at
the international level. Number of critics say it's an absolute
punt to do this, but it's a punt they have taken,
and Hamish McLennan wants them to take more punts, mister
Nathan Cleary being one of them, Calen Punger possibly being
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another one. So the question here for you all out there.
Should Rugby be chasing superstars from the NRL to grow
their product? This is more specifically based on Australia. I
don't see New Zealand do it, although we have a history,
you have done it before. Will this work? Should Rugby
be chasing superstars from the NRL to grow their product?
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Any port in a storm? I say, if they're out
there and they're keen. The only problem is it's a
very short term solution unless it encourages the youth to
climb into the game. When the knee height of a grasshopper,
ed's basically just putting a band aid over a massive
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flesh wound. Your thoughts eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
hamous mcclennan wright, former chair of Rugby Australia. Should rugby
be chasing superstars from the NRL and the attempt to
gain some form of parity? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty lines are open. It's twenty three minutes after seven.
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I'll keep you up to that with the netball silver
ferns looking to go open up at ten. Yes on
the Australians again. I don't think they'd better do it
two times running, but you never know. The physicality possibly
might be what they need. Twenty three after seven, it's
a sports talk on news Talks.
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Have a place now so far away we are not
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is z to be on a Wednesday evening of Darcy
water Grave Andris mcclennan joined us before former chair of
a Rugby Australia Willing urging Rugby Australia to carry on
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well he started when he picked up Joseph Suliti. He's
been pecked to tour with the Wallabies. That are head
scratching and going on. But of enthusiasm going on as well?
Is it actually worth it? Should rugby be doing this?
I think one of the main issues here and we've
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seen it succeed in the past and we've seen it
fail in the past. Just because he's a good league
player doesn't mean to say he will make a good
rugby play. The question is which position do you target?
Which position can you target? The vagaries of ford play.
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You try and transition a rugby league Ford or a
PAC member into rugby union. It's never going to work.
And here go Brad Thorne, but he played rugby earlier, right,
It's a very hard transition out in the back line,
slightly easier centers maybe out in the wing, maybe fallback,
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It's not such a transition. Where do Australia need their strength.
You always need it up front, don't you, in those
collision areas, not necessarily out back. So by raiding the
stocks of the NRL, it is all well and good,
but do they have the stocks in the required position.
There's just another thought. I one hundred eighty ten eighty
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lines are open. Henry, good evening.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Hey Josse, how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So sure?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
If you look at Benjie Marshall, you know Roger two
of us is chicken, you know, two of the great
n REL players. And you know when they came over
to the Orbway, Spanji didn't go far and Roger didn't
seem to go much further.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The Benji in defense of Benji was never given a chance.
Do you remember when he came over that. I'm pretty
sure it was Kerlin at the stage coaching the Blues
did not want them playing in the NPC to unleash
them in super rugby, unbelievably bone headed. I'm pretty sure
it was that. It might not have been, might be
another coach, but he had no leading. He was set
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up to fail at Roger wrong position.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
He's a full bick you know, well you can't.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
One of the most one of the more difficult positions
in the back line is in second five eight of
the center role when you've got to understand the art
of distribution. And we've got a guy at the moment
who still hasn't quite grasped it. And he's been an
All Black for a long time, so he was also
set up to fail.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
It's just, you know, it's just like you know when
we've had you know, you know, we've had some great
sick and scen appearings over the years. You know, well
little Frank Bunce, you man Smith, I mean, where is
the next you know, when are we going to get
the next to you or there?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, they'll turn up, they always do. We've got a
production like called the NPC as long as they keep
their hands off it bit Australia. So you think they
should actually try and last sue some Menigert stars and
would it. Here's a question for you, Henry and everyone
else out there at one hundred and eighty ten eighty
do these code hoppers, do these superstars do they actually
get people along to the game.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Well, you know, the last the last big superstar they
here was Israel Flair, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
When you know, if Israel had maybe if Israel hadn't
have gone on Instagram, he could have been a very
different story. But fantastic player. Would he attract bums on seats?
Probably would? Did? Sonny Bill? Probably did?
Speaker 9 (21:44):
Did?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, but it's how many?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Yeah, I don't think it's a long term fixed for you.
He might be seeing them and wars are you know,
they're struggling, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well I don't think they need it out back. I
think they need it right in the front. That's where
games won and lost. Right, Trevor, how are you hey
say you made bad?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
But that guy you just interviewed was when?
Speaker 10 (22:10):
When?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
When did he lead that job? Was he the guy
that made the decision to dump Dave Rennie and get
Jones and as a coach for the last World Cup? Yes,
he was, and he was was one of his gut feelings.
That was one of his gut feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know, that was a great feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
No, it wasn't really, I mean the whole thing was
you know, did he just you know, lying about not
lying but saying in Armund in Japan and that stuff
that was like his feelings and his premonitions that he gets.
I'm just not too sure, I mean, and Nathan Cleary,
I mean, I'm not too sure when I saw when
I read the thing about Nathan Cleary, he played football
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when he was in New Zealand. He didn't play rugby
rugby league. So but that guy was saying that he
played rugby in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Maybe been over here he must have played with.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I'm just I'm just not too sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, trouble will that attract people to games? Though?
Because Nathan Cleary is a superstar, people be keen to
see what he can do. But would that transfer to
season tickets? What a transfer to people buying sky TV?
What a transfer to bums on seats? Would it actually work?
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Not well, not for me anyway, you know, I mean
for it wouldn't for me, but maybe maybe young people
and that I mean you look at something like Kayleem
But you know, let's say one rugby league players off
the money and offer them the right money, and I'll go,
I mean, I play like Kaylen Ponger. I mean, you
know when he signed this contract with Newcastle, he sort
of well, he didn't hold a go to the head,
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but you know it was all about you know, you've
got to give us more. We're going to do this.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
So he's the sort.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Of player that can be ticue with money. But I
don't think Nathan Cleary would be enticed. But I mean
you offer enough money, like just yeah, but give him
a ten million dollar sign on feet and he'll come across.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Would it actually work? Would it be if? And then
in asking amis mcleannan about numbers and have we actually
proven that it was worth the while it's only anecdotally
like more people are coming to the game, more eyeballs
are there, more interested, does that actually transfer to make
the five million dollars a worthy spend?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
That was a good question you asked him, and it
will be very good And I mean you're trying to
get is the actual evidence that that works or not?
I mean yeah, So, I mean that guy just sounded
like he was just not really up with what he
was saying and stuff like that. But I mean, if
if he was still in charge and they had enough money,
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just offer them money, just off them sign on fees,
give them what they're getting in rugby league, Like you know,
Nathan's on one point one million, give them one point
one but say, if you come and play rugby for
three years, we'll give you five million dollar sign on fee.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Don't do it.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well you think, because money doesn't talk, it screams. The
other issue around this is would you like to do
something different in your career while you still can? Would
you like to play rugby for Australia in the World
Cup at home? Would you like to become a folk
hero in a global game, a genuine global game, and
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you don't know what drives people? And that might just
be enough. Go back when I'm saying before though, when
he comes in? Should he come in? Should his arm
be twisted behind his back? Or he does it by himself?
Did he play? You don't want to do all that?
Did a Roger and put him in the centers when
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you need to give him plenty of time? Roger too soon,
too quick? You can't make that transition, didn't work. Shouldn't
have been playing in centers so Nathan would kind of
have to be first five eight otherwise there's no point
in being anywhere right. Maybe you stick them at fullback.
I don't know, but do they really need that style
of player. I'll suggest they don't They want me engine
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room more than anything. Don't they netwhere the games are
won and lost? That's a difficult transition from thirteen man
to fifteen man. I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty
lines are open. Our texts are also running nineteen ninet
two ZBZ bear run through a couple of those for you. Shortly,
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should Rugby be chasing these stars? And in a more
holistic view, DA code hobbles like this actually generate eyeballs.
That bums on seats doesn't make a sceric of difference.
Will it attract you to a game?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
For you?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You're the punter, You're the eyeballs? Though on you tell me,
I'll wait one hundred eighty ten eighty. There's twenty five
minutes to eight with that.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
CoFe.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's like you never even let me remember when you
swear to God it was the curse my name for
Babet when you Dragon eight sportstal Care and Newstalk zb
I one hundred eighty ten eighty text ninety nine two
ZBZB costume standard text charge. Sure we can make it.
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Take that in Chris, how are.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
You you doing? Brother? Yeah, not so bad excellent mate. Hey,
can I just offer a point of view from the
Kingdom of Australia being a Kiwi that's lived here for
a little while, Being a being a Kiwi that's lived
here and works in the AFL system predominantly round our talent, draft, mentoring,
preparing athletes. You know, I think if RA is going
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to take on the AFL and say say they're wasting
their time. The depth it's like rugby was when we
were growing up in christ Church, right, it's deep. I
think the only way they can get out of this,
and it hurts me to say, because I'm a Kei.
We all black fans through and through canobury fan through
and through is I think they're bucking up the wrong tree,
taking talent out of an existing city them such as
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AFL or NRL. They need to come home to New Zealand.
I think there's vacancies for at least five hundred players
to come across. We've got a labor shortage in every state,
not just the state I'm calling from. There's jobs abundant
that RA can tape get these guys playing rugby at
club and state.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You on a mass exit of worker talent from New
Zealand to go and work in Aussie and if you've
got a rugby background even better.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Yeah, I think look at the field point of view,
that's all that is. I'm not a Rugby Australia fan
at all. I've got five children that you know. My
oldest daughter wasn't alive when they last won the Blueterslow Cup.
I'm now looking at the success of Super rugby and
international rugby in our backyard with a non competitive Australia,
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it hurts us. So if Rugby Australia my point of
view being and Rugby Australia are serious about growing the game,
they start at a club level in each state, where
each state has an employee shortage right now, skilled or otherwise.
That sets a platform to relocate some families across that
are playing NPC rugby, Heartland rugby. Bring them in, get
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them grounded, get them started. But New Zealand's got to
step up to and make sure these kids are still
eligible to play Super or All Black if that's the
route they want to take. So again, let's feel point
of view, man, but I think it's probably going to
cost the same, maybe a little less than going into
the NROL or I think he's dreaming with AFL it's
a different athlete. It's a different athletes being prepared fourteen
(29:43):
years old to play key positions. We develop them all
around the field, so they just don't turn up as
a batman or a ford. They're trained across the field. Obviously,
if they're trying to dred centimeters, they're a key player.
But none of that bombing design is going to be
any good now game in rugby union. So that's my
left field idea.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Darth and Chris, thanks for sharing it. And I think
that Ossie Rugby are desperately after a sugar hit. Who isn't.
But this is only dealing with the top for a
limited period. I said it in the introduction. It's a
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band aid over a machette wound. Their arms are hanging
off their shoulders, blood and sinew and bone and muscle
every at it. We'll just take a band aid and
it will be fine. I appreciate what Hamish is trying
to say. He wants to replicate that success, but it's
got to start from the ground up. Paul Texas and
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a Darcy. What Australian Rugby got off of Clary is
a sabbatical to players rugby in the North of England
to be close to his girlfriend. It's an idea, Paul,
but would it actually work. Clary would be too slow
and not able to tackle well enough, Thank you very
much for that. The best success or he would have
to be brad Thorn. And that isn't he not? That
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describe him like he's the thing close he would He's
the outlier, is he not? The amount of rugby league
men in the pack that transfer to rugby union have
the success that they do it so small, so limited.
It's mostly big outside backs, big midfielders that actually get
(31:32):
it done. Yeah, he's absolute in the nicest possible way.
A freak show. Nothing clearly Parentary his sacred heart for
a couple of years, which is a rugby school. He
may have dabbled in it there, Darcy Rugby league. It's
a simpleton's game. Run it straight, run it straight, run
it straight, pass it wide, kick it, rinse and repeat oss.
He needs forwards, not backs. No league player has ever
(31:55):
been a rugby before, well, he said brad Thorne who's
did particularly well. Callaway and Edmed advanced their games by
playing over. Here's a team he'd been played for you
play for Harbor this year. Yeah, so possibility, that's the
way to go. I don't know if the sugar HiT's
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going to work. It's sixteen minutes to eight Talk Cricket.
Next on the program Ratchen Revendra be our guest him
of all of those runs, wonderful, calm temperament and general
all round nice guy vibes. They're playing the Indians tomorrow
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and the Indians have prepared a pitch to suit them,
to favor them. Will it work? Find out watching Revenger
joins his hair. Next on new Stalk how the Field,
Chip we Man hugging nerves were joining out On sports
(33:10):
Talk Byretro Revendra as we look ahead to Pune tomorrow,
the second Test of three against the Indians, right, and
you'll be looking forward to this, I expect the Indian
team and the Indian public are a little on the
irate side. They'll be coming you with everything they possibly can.
Does that represent to you possibly a crack in their
(33:31):
armor the way they'll approach this because they won't be happy.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know. Obviously, it was great to
get that win.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
Last week, but look, I think we all know how
competitive Indian people are, how competitive Indian teamers and the
intensity they bring to each and every ball. So I
think it will just be, you know, lo what we expect.
And yeah, maybe the Indian public probably care more about
these two Test matches now, but the beauty of it
is we've put ourselves in a position in the series
to you know, for Shan and see what happens.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
But I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Deck's been talked about a lot. There's only the third
testa match actually being played at Puna, which is interesting
in itself. There was one where a two hundred plus
was scored by Kohli and of course a massive defeat
of three out of thirty three runs when the pitch
fell apart. Can we predict anything with the nature of
this deep We know it's going to be lower and
(34:24):
slower and made a lot of dark soil, but what
do we know about how long it's going to last? Rerection.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Yeah, it's always a tough one. I'm I'm not a
great person at reading a workout. I'm always looking at it.
I have no idea what it's going to do. But
the guys above me, I know, you know, the Garys
and the tommies and the experienced players will know a
bit more about it. I think to the naked eye
looks pretty dry. It looks like it will take ten
from day one, So there's a bit of a fifew unknowns.
I guess we'll have to see once the first ball's bowld.
(34:51):
But for us as a team, something we pride ourselves
on as our adaptability, We're going to adapt quickly and
as fast as we can to selfs in front of
us knowing, hey, it's a different game that were compared
to last week.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Pitch is going to be different bowlers, My ball slally differently.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
And what do we need to do is a to
counter that? But yeah, I guess it's just a balancing
act and I'm trying to work that all out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
We thought the toss was going to be key last week,
turns out it wasn't. Is it going to be just
as key tomorrow? You don't know, do you?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Yeah? Not quite sure.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I think it was kind of a good one that
we lost that tossa last week. But I think more
often than not, you want to win the toss in
beat in India, especially on turning wickets. So hopefully, hopefully
that works out but either way, I think we hopefully
we can compete in our own way and realize, hey,
the toss is actually out of our control. What we
can is control our attitude for every single ball we
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put in, so regardless of the toss, hopefully we can
come in with a great attitude.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm presuming you celebrated, but not too long and too
hard after that victory. Pretty simple to put it behind
you now though, and just look forward.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Yeah, for sure, I think it's once again official sports
always a balancing act. I think you've got to have
that balance between savoring each win and each special moment
on this journey, but also being able to move on
quickly knowing, look, we've only had three days in between
Test matches, so I think that that that day after
the Test match is obviously nice to get around the
boys and reflect on what it's been, you know, a
(36:15):
great four or five days and the first team to
do it for Sad thirty six years is especial and
for us to share.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
That as a group was amazing.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
But then also realizing, hey, there's two more Test matches
left in the series. We know where we want to
get to in the rest series, so you know, we
we focus ourselves on our posts, as we pride ourselves
on staying level and knocking too high and low, and
obviously enjoying each other's successes, but realizing, hey, it's a
it's a game that's emotionally you know, it's an emotional
wreck if you ride every single high and low. So
(36:46):
if we can, you know, continue that consistent key we attitude,
I hopefully it will be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You spend a bit of time out in the middle.
I take you, who had a chance to rest your
weary legs. But how much net time have you spent?
Because that is key? And have you had the whole
fellings of locals turn up to bowl tweak?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Is that you?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Because I'm sure they'll be all over it wouldn't they?
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Of course always in this part of the world, Darcy,
you've got a bunch of new bottles, read the ball,
thousands of balls, thousands of overs, so it's always.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Nice to have that.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
But I guess for me, I'm someone who likes to
had a lot of balls, no matter how many runs
I score.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
On previous tests. It's just I guess it's very calming
for me.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
And gets to you know, affilm to me that my
plans are ride and obviously going to a different ground
as well. It's important to have a feel for the
Wicked and the feel for the ground. I feel like
it's a different challenge as well. So yeah, probably maybe
overdid it a little bit yesterday, but that's okay, That's
that's how I'm always going to be. But hopefully today
maybe have a slightly more chill day and restar up
(37:39):
for the next five days.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We're doing this via zoom, so I can see you
sitting in your hotel room. Are you stuck there? Are
you allowed out? Are you a prisoner of your own success?
To expect if you hit the streets you just get mobbed,
wouldn't you?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah, it is. It is interesting.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
I mean, yeah, we don't go out to start of
the hotel too much. The fans are pretty pasionate, pretty crazy.
You do get there, you do get mobbed a little bit.
But I think the cool thing about it is, you know,
you know, you can complain about it all you want,
but at end of the day, you know, I'm very
grateful for the fan support and the following knowing that
you know, all these people care about us, care about
(38:13):
the game we play, so deeply, and I wouldn't have
a career without all the fans, right, So for me,
it's important that I you know that I am grateful
for all that and realize what sort of special position
and how privileged we are to play this game from what.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I can gather from revenge of joining us. So you're
not letting any of this go to your head. You
need to have right from your early days in Wellington,
because you're only one interesting delivery away from a golden duck.
You just reset and carry on. That's the way you've been,
That's the way you're going to carry on being. You're
not going to let it get ahead of you.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Hopefully not Darcy, and hopefully people around me will brain
me if I get to. But for me, that's that's
definitely an important thing. I think it's comes more than
just the values you knows me now, but it's sort
of what's been drawn into me as a kid. Well
my parents you know, wanted me to be and how
they you know, raised me to be, and as kiwis
as well, it's important you know we're all good people,
(39:06):
you know, chill chill, chill vibes, and especially the leaders
in the team show that off as well. You know,
you've got Cain, who's you know, the greatest, and he's
so you know, so humble, and you've got Timmy and
you've got the guys guys like that who've.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Achieved so much. Why the just normal people the end
of the day.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
So for me, that's that's the most important thing, you know,
you know, it doesn't matter how great of a cricket
you are.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I think it matters that the quality of person. And
for me that's that's important.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, and you mentioned Kane Williamson. He's not going to
be there. I expect will Young stoked though, because he
did good, didn't he? And he's got another opportunity which
is pretty rare for.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Will Yeah, very pleased for Youngie.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
Obviously disappointing to not have Kana a best ever better,
but Yang he played brilliantly, didn't he both innings? Obviously
probably was a bit disappointed to miss out with the start.
Started really well in the first innings, but second he
just wrapped it up beautifully. Was very nice to share
that little partnership with him. I've had played a lot
of Cracker with Janie and to see him flourish and
the Loom's opportunities he gets is amazing and he's a
(40:00):
he's a great play against the great positions. He's great
to watch from the other ends. So hopefully he can
do it again this Test.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And one last thing. It is your hometown. What do
you call it? This is from the last test. You
say Bangalore or Bengaluru. It's one of each, isn't it?
How does it roll?
Speaker 10 (40:17):
Yeah, I'm not too much in tune with mind in
heritage that much, to be honest, but I think it
is Bengalu.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I think the Bengaluru.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
I've said it, and f you're into his Bangalore and
I feel like, well, maybe that's been wrong.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Yeah, I think the locals call it Bengaluru.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Now, well you're in Pune now, which used to be
called Poona. I'm losing count and on that only you
go Russian. As always, thanks very much for your time.
Are looking forward to another tremendous five days sitting on
my couch watching you guys play crecket. It's been fantastic.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
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Speaker 2 (40:55):
Zibby, such a lovely man. From five o'clock tomorrow that
second Test gets under way. We hope the weather doesn't interrupt.
That is from poone. Some quite astonishing happened today in
the NB A first time in the long and storied history,
father and son setd up and played for the same
(41:18):
team roll in the James crew history.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Tonight the first father son duo to play together in
an NBA game.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
This is all in the family. Yeah, what a celebration
for the James family. Advice for Bronnie James making his
NBA debut out of the timeout, lebron James, you major
(41:55):
flush didn't say that about Bunnie, did they? What did
you get? What on the court for a couple of
minutes it is to pick up a rebound. It's like, hey, Ben,
and I'll ever do and my dad as well well.
Now and play to see that cool moment in history though.
Fantastic love that and the ferns. We're just gone into
(42:16):
the second quarter and leading Australia eighteen twelve from Spark
Arena in Auckland. Here we go again. Thanks very much
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up and tonight's sedition of Sports Talk. We're gonna finish
things off of Russian Revender black Caps bat Second Test
US tomorrow afternoon in India? Can they replicate the heroics
of the first Test? India making a pitch to suit themselves? Surprise, surprise?
(01:17):
How is a Ruschen and his teammates? How are they
going to respond to that roll black mud? That doesn't
bounce class act there from the Indians? But hey, it's
their test series. It's at home. That's the way things wrong.
Rutchan joins us toward the end of the show. Hamos
mcclennan is our first guest former chair of Rugby Australia.
(01:37):
He's been calling on through Cidy Morning Herald the Australian
Rugby should start signing top NRL players Calen Ponnett Nathan
Clary for example, and that's the way they're going to
save the game. I'm not convinced. Hopefully Hamish can convince
me up after that will get your thoughts. So eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Should Rugby actually be chasing
(02:00):
superstars to grow this product and in general to code
hoppers the superstars do they actually get people along the game,
do they get bums on seats? Do they generate interest?
Or is it all smoke and mirrors. There's been some good,
some bad and some ugly. We'll talk about that and
(02:22):
we'll get your calls on our eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. But like we always do, before we get
amongst that, let's get all over this score today and
it's more today. It's been a while for fresh All
Black Billy Proctor. Sent has been patiently training, not appearing
in the game Day twenty three for six consecutive tests
(02:42):
after debuting against Fiji. He's back on Saturday, but he's
used his time away to good effect as.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Felt like while.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But you know, I've just been in the environment and
just been leaning off the other boys who have been playing,
just soaking up.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
I guess all their knowledge and yes, must be out
there again.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Silver fans playing are ossies at their own game, physicality
and a and not the solder name of the tourists,
says mid quarter Maddie Gordon.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We know as soon as we step on that court,
before the whistle was even blowing, that they'll come and
had us and check us.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
So that's exactly what we wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
And we just wanted to show them that, hey, you
can do that to us, because we're just going to
do it just as good.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And apologies because I think I called Maddy Gordon Maddy
Green last night. Sorry. Constellation Cup Game two underweight shortly
Kimi Squatch number one. Joel King has her eyes on
an Olympic prize, especially now that the common up experience
has been extinguished. Squashes out the Common Game's flag bearer
and eight time medalist. She's not upset, she's just looking ahead.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
At the start. It was a bit of a joke, really,
but even this Olympics, it was really interesting to see
there was actually a lot of older athletes and older
athletes that were actually winning medals. So let's just throw
my name in the hat and see where it takes
me and a twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Fear old back roller Jordan Niki has been named on
events for this weekend's QBV Kangaroo Class or debut for
the team after missing a chance to do the same
last year through injury.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Extremely guarded to miss out last year. I had to
go straight in the surgery.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
So I'm hugually greatfulm of blessed to be able to
be back in the and file of the boys.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
And you know you probably couldn't write a bit of
script really.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And that's sport today. Ten past seven, this is Sports
Talk on a News Talks there b Form, chair of
Rugby Australia Hammers McKinnon joins us now talking around the
possibility of Nathan Cleary, maybe even Calen Ponger joining Rugby
or being popes from rugby to try and save the game.
(04:48):
A call of course, Nathan Cleary, it's very interesting one
in the hamoush So what do you base this interest on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Look, there's been some informal outreaches in the past. I mean,
I'm obviously not at Rugby Australia now, but after we
signed Joseph, who I think is one Sinner General Nation
talent and he's already paid for himself at RAM, mind you,
but it was interesting that the Nine Network went to
clear at the time that we signed Sowali and they
(05:19):
said what do you think? And I think most sort
of market observers felt the Cleary would have sort of
rejected the idea that if you look at the tape
at the time, he was sort of open to the
idea of moving to rugby because his father coached the Warriors,
as you would know, and he grew up playing rugby
and those two guys are classic examples of players that
(05:41):
have a rugby heritage who loved the game. And I
guess the backdrop that I sort of need to continue
to explain to Kiwi's is that the AFL and the
NRL are really big sports, much larger here and so
the acquisitions of Joseph and potentially others was always based
(06:01):
around can they add value to the Wallabies and our
high performance program. But from a secondary point of view,
like you wouldn't believe the fever pitch excitement with Joseph
starting this week, the media has been about him and
you'll have all these rugby league people who don't watch
rugby anymore. He'll be tuning in to see him play,
(06:22):
and they'll go and watch him play and it'll drive
sponsorship and viewership and ultimately, the plan at the time
when we signed him was to sort of create momentum
in the sports so that when we renewed the media
Rite deal that we'll be able to get more. But
you know, sadly I didn't make it. We didn't get there,
but I think Joseph would be a great addition to
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the Wallay team.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're assertion that he's paid back the investment already, what's
that based on.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, look, don't forget that. You know there are already
players that are running a million dollars plus within rugby.
I won't go into who they are. So there was
an incremental cost to get him across because he has
seen such a great prodigious talent. So the amount of
media coverage we've got, the focus on rugby as a sport,
(07:11):
and just the fact that he is a first class player.
So you know, mind backing in my belief as was
that he will make a difference. And interestingly, you know,
I still have friends in and around rugby and guys
that are actually playing for the Wallabies, and the anecdotal
feedback that we're getting in because he's such a sort
of versatile utility player, he's already lifting standards, certainly in
(07:33):
the back line because he comes with a big reputation.
He's tough as our boots and you know, even in
the training sessions, you know he could play inside, outside, center,
the wing or fallback and he's got a great boot.
So everyone I'm hearing is sort of lifting their game
a bit.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
As far as money is concerned, in numbers that way,
there's nothing solid that suggests he's draking extra sponsorship in
that can be relied upon.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Truly to say.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
But when I was at Rugby Australia, I had a
very close relationship with a number of the sponsors and
certainly some of some of the larger ones thought it
was such a great idea getting Joseph in, so at
the time it was supported by key sponsors and certainly
I think the media. You know, since since his zion,
(08:25):
every time we played in rugby league, the commentators would
often talk about the fact that it's making a switch
to rugby union and it's just going to drive viewership.
And again, if RA is smart about it, they'll be
able to crystallize more sponsorship out of the likes of
us like Joseph.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
What about the likes of Nathan Cleary if he would
actually do it or not? And could they afford to
do it, because I'm presuming everybody has a price, but
there's Rugby Australia flash enough to afford to chuck all
that money at him, do you think Hamish?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Look, there is already adplicated budget towards players, So what's
been twisted and misreported is that Joseph's tossed was at
the expense of a whole lot of other costs. Now,
we did pay an incremental amount based on, you know,
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other players in the team, but the reality is that
small the whole scheme of things. So just to put
it in different text, when I started just after raylen
Castle left Rugby Australia during COVID, that first year I
was there, we lost over twenty five million, and three
years later we made a profit of over eight million
(09:37):
I think it was, and we cut thirty seven million
dollars worth of cost out of the organization in the
first year that I was there, So that was that
was the guarantee survival. So firstly we knew what we
were doing from a financial point of view. Secondly, you're
already paying players, so I was firmly of the view
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you've got to get a handful of superstars in there
because the Wallabies just aren't competitive against the ABS and
All South Africa. We saw in the World Cup. You know,
whether you think Eddie was a good choice or not,
he's got a lot of blame for it. But the
reality is rugby in Australia has underperformed for nearly two decades.
(10:18):
We haven't won a World Cup since nineteen ninety nine,
we haven't won a Bledisloe in twenty three years, and
the system's broken. And so a team you change the pathways,
get better at recruitment, silis the whole organization. Australian rugby
won't perform to the level. We might win the odd
game against the aa BS and it'll be great, but
the bledder is low is no longer the contest that
(10:40):
it was, and so I'm kind of trying to still
it down a really fundamental sort of areas, and I
just think the whole thing's broken and sort of. So
to answer your question, yes, you know, I think what
Nathan needs to My understanding is, you know, he's won
four Premierships with Penrith. A fifth would be nice, but
he's still an immortal and he's achieved everything that he
(11:02):
would want to achieve. And I think the lure of
a home World in Australia and potentially playing lines. I
don't know if he's available. My sense is that if
you could tick that off in your career, that's pretty
pretty special, certainly a home World Cup. So you know,
I don't know. I don't think there's an appetite and
r to go after him, but I certainly would have.
(11:23):
I would have gone after him half if I was
still there.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Joined by Hamish mccleannan, he's the former chair of Rugby Australia.
How much of this depends on the success of someone
like Joseph if he was a flop, would that effect
the wants of Rugby Australia to go around hunting down
league players. It's quite a big punt.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, my sense is, look, I know who's running the
organization now, there's certainly a more conservative approach to the
way I would have done it. But but the way
it's been running, the passes not work. So like be
an Australia's bail for two decades. If we're honest about it,
I wouldn't have gone after lead people for the sake
of it. But what you'll see with Joe said, look,
(12:04):
I doubt he'll be a flop. But it's like anything
in life, unless you have a go. But I just
looked on a historical basis, which was why I went
in in twenty twenty during COVID to try and help out.
Was you've got a convention. But I just think what's
plainly evident to me is that you just you just
(12:24):
look at the system and the fact that we're not
winning major tournaments but a final in twenty fifteen, you've
got to say hi. And so I think, I think
we've lost so many good players to rugby League, and
dare I say it to the AFL, like you think
all that tall Tim that now plays AFL, big players
that could have been in the front and row, they're
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just not there anymore. So I was I was concerned
after we won the hosting rights to the World Cup
in twenty seven in Australia, that we just didn't have
the cattle there, and I think Eddie probably deep down
recognized it, and I think you know ready had the
same issue, and I think Joe Schmidt does. And I
think Joe's everything I hear is it a fabulous coach
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and no doubt, very well credential. But you know, if
you don't have the cattle to work with, then you
don't have you know, you don't have three or four
Angus Bells or Tannyella tupas to call upon, then you've
got to really suffer. And so Joseph, Joseph was one
of hopefully a handful of players that we would have
got in and they could have been rugby that we
got from France or Japan. That our ranks have been
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plundered for a long time and we haven't had a
long term plan. So it was really about shoring up
the Wallabies ahead of a media RTE cycle, the Lions
and the Rugby World Cup in Australia.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Any other players you'd target, obviously you've mentioned Nathan Cleary,
you mentioned maybe rugby players from overseas and the like,
as anywhere else that should be in the cross here
is that would provide that traction that Rugby Australia requires.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Look it's it's look, it's not my call and these
players locked up long term. But yeah, there's a guy
that never played super rugby in Australia who's in Japan,
A young guy called Harry Hopkins who came out of Queensland.
He went, he went straight straight to Japan. There's a
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whole list. And there's Calen Ponger who plays the Newcastle Knight,
so he had a rugby upbringing. So there were so
many players that don't play rugby in Australian now who
could and would be eligible. And so I'm not not
casting any dispersions on any of the current player group,
but we just don't have the depth of the abs
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or the spring box or any matter.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
In my opinion, forget the riffs call. You make a
call on sports Talk on your home of Sports.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Talk pretty passed at seven. That is Hamish mccleanan former
chair of Rugby Australia. He was the man behind the
trapping of Joseph sua Al, dragging him out of rugby
league and putting him into rugby union. Is just being
named in the Wallaby squad to head up to the
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Northern Hemisphere and Hamos reporting or talking being interviewed through
the Sydney Morning Heralds. Look in order for Australia to
get up and get close to the All Blacks, they've
got to raid the banks, the buying stock of the NRL.
That is their only way forward. Joseph has been a
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success with a huge asterisk because he hasn't played at
the international level. Number of critics say it's an absolute
punt to do this, but it's a punt they have taken,
and Hamish McLennan wants them to take more punts, mister
Nathan Cleary being one of them, Calen Punger possibly being
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another one. So the question here for you all out there.
Should Rugby be chasing superstars from the NRL to grow
their product? This is more specifically based on Australia. I
don't see New Zealand do it, although we have a history,
you have done it before. Will this work? Should Rugby
be chasing superstars from the NRL to grow their product?
(16:18):
Any port in a storm? I say, if they're out
there and they're keen. The only problem is it's a
very short term solution unless it encourages the youth to
climb into the game. When the knee height of a grasshopper,
ed's basically just putting a band aid over a massive
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flesh wound. Your thoughts eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
hamous mcclennan wright, former chair of Rugby Australia. Should rugby
be chasing superstars from the NRL and the attempt to
gain some form of parity? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty lines are open. It's twenty three minutes after seven.
(17:00):
I'll keep you up to that with the netball silver
ferns looking to go open up at ten. Yes on
the Australians again. I don't think they'd better do it
two times running, but you never know. The physicality possibly
might be what they need. Twenty three after seven, it's
a sports talk on news Talks.
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Speaker 1 (17:26):
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Speaker 7 (17:29):
Have your say on undred eighty eighty sports Talk or
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Speaker 5 (17:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:39):
Have a place now so far away we are not
watch BE seven Sports Talk here on the news Talk
is z to be on a Wednesday evening of Darcy
water Grave Andris mcclennan joined us before former chair of
a Rugby Australia Willing urging Rugby Australia to carry on
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well he started when he picked up Joseph Suliti. He's
been pecked to tour with the Wallabies. That are head
scratching and going on. But of enthusiasm going on as well?
Is it actually worth it? Should rugby be doing this?
I think one of the main issues here and we've
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seen it succeed in the past and we've seen it
fail in the past. Just because he's a good league
player doesn't mean to say he will make a good
rugby play. The question is which position do you target?
Which position can you target? The vagaries of ford play.
(18:48):
You try and transition a rugby league Ford or a
PAC member into rugby union. It's never going to work.
And here go Brad Thorne, but he played rugby earlier, right,
It's a very hard transition out in the back line,
slightly easier centers maybe out in the wing, maybe fallback,
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It's not such a transition. Where do Australia need their strength.
You always need it up front, don't you, in those
collision areas, not necessarily out back. So by raiding the
stocks of the NRL, it is all well and good,
but do they have the stocks in the required position.
There's just another thought. I one hundred eighty ten eighty
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lines are open. Henry, good evening.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Hey Josse, how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah? Good?
Speaker 8 (19:38):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
So sure?
Speaker 8 (19:40):
If you look at Benjie Marshall, you know Roger two
of us is chicken, you know, two of the great
n REL players. And you know when they came over
to the Orbway, Spanji didn't go far and Roger didn't
seem to go much further.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The Benji in defense of Benji was never given a chance.
Do you remember when he came over that. I'm pretty
sure it was Kerlin at the stage coaching the Blues
did not want them playing in the NPC to unleash
them in super rugby, unbelievably bone headed. I'm pretty sure
it was that. It might not have been, might be
another coach, but he had no leading. He was set
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up to fail at Roger wrong position.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
He's a full bick you know, well you can't.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
One of the most one of the more difficult positions
in the back line is in second five eight of
the center role when you've got to understand the art
of distribution. And we've got a guy at the moment
who still hasn't quite grasped it. And he's been an
All Black for a long time, so he was also
set up to fail.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
It's just, you know, it's just like you know when
we've had you know, you know, we've had some great
sick and scen appearings over the years. You know, well
little Frank Bunce, you man Smith, I mean, where is
the next you know, when are we going to get
the next to you or there?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, they'll turn up, they always do. We've got a
production like called the NPC as long as they keep
their hands off it bit Australia. So you think they
should actually try and last sue some Menigert stars and
would it. Here's a question for you, Henry and everyone
else out there at one hundred and eighty ten eighty
do these code hoppers, do these superstars do they actually
get people along to the game.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
Well, you know, the last the last big superstar they
here was Israel Flair, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
When you know, if Israel had maybe if Israel hadn't
have gone on Instagram, he could have been a very
different story. But fantastic player. Would he attract bums on seats?
Probably would? Did? Sonny Bill? Probably did?
Speaker 9 (21:44):
Did?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, but it's how many?
Speaker 8 (21:48):
Yeah, I don't think it's a long term fixed for you.
He might be seeing them and wars are you know,
they're struggling, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well I don't think they need it out back. I
think they need it right in the front. That's where
games won and lost. Right, Trevor, how are you hey
say you made bad?
Speaker 6 (22:07):
But that guy you just interviewed was when?
Speaker 10 (22:10):
When?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
When did he lead that job? Was he the guy
that made the decision to dump Dave Rennie and get
Jones and as a coach for the last World Cup? Yes,
he was, and he was was one of his gut feelings.
That was one of his gut feelings.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
You know, that was a great feeling.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
No, it wasn't really, I mean the whole thing was
you know, did he just you know, lying about not
lying but saying in Armund in Japan and that stuff
that was like his feelings and his premonitions that he gets.
I'm just not too sure, I mean, and Nathan Cleary,
I mean, I'm not too sure when I saw when
I read the thing about Nathan Cleary, he played football
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when he was in New Zealand. He didn't play rugby
rugby league. So but that guy was saying that he
played rugby in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Maybe been over here he must have played with.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
I'm just I'm just not too sure.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I mean, trouble will that attract people to games? Though?
Because Nathan Cleary is a superstar, people be keen to
see what he can do. But would that transfer to
season tickets? What a transfer to people buying sky TV?
What a transfer to bums on seats? Would it actually work?
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Well?
Speaker 6 (23:26):
Not well, not for me anyway, you know, I mean
for it wouldn't for me, but maybe maybe young people
and that I mean you look at something like Kayleem
But you know, let's say one rugby league players off
the money and offer them the right money, and I'll go,
I mean, I play like Kaylen Ponger. I mean, you
know when he signed this contract with Newcastle, he sort
of well, he didn't hold a go to the head,
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but you know it was all about you know, you've
got to give us more. We're going to do this.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
So he's the sort.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
Of player that can be ticue with money. But I
don't think Nathan Cleary would be enticed. But I mean
you offer enough money, like just yeah, but give him
a ten million dollar sign on feet and he'll come across.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Would it actually work? Would it be if? And then
in asking amis mcleannan about numbers and have we actually
proven that it was worth the while it's only anecdotally
like more people are coming to the game, more eyeballs
are there, more interested, does that actually transfer to make
the five million dollars a worthy spend?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
That was a good question you asked him, and it
will be very good And I mean you're trying to
get is the actual evidence that that works or not?
I mean yeah, So, I mean that guy just sounded
like he was just not really up with what he
was saying and stuff like that. But I mean, if
if he was still in charge and they had enough money,
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just offer them money, just off them sign on fees,
give them what they're getting in rugby league, Like you know,
Nathan's on one point one million, give them one point
one but say, if you come and play rugby for
three years, we'll give you five million dollar sign on fee.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Don't do it.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Don't worry about that.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well you think, because money doesn't talk, it screams. The
other issue around this is would you like to do
something different in your career while you still can? Would
you like to play rugby for Australia in the World
Cup at home? Would you like to become a folk
hero in a global game, a genuine global game, and
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you don't know what drives people? And that might just
be enough. Go back when I'm saying before though, when
he comes in? Should he come in? Should his arm
be twisted behind his back? Or he does it by himself?
Did he play? You don't want to do all that?
Did a Roger and put him in the centers when
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you need to give him plenty of time? Roger too soon,
too quick? You can't make that transition, didn't work. Shouldn't
have been playing in centers so Nathan would kind of
have to be first five eight otherwise there's no point
in being anywhere right. Maybe you stick them at fullback.
I don't know, but do they really need that style
of player. I'll suggest they don't They want me engine
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room more than anything. Don't they netwhere the games are
won and lost? That's a difficult transition from thirteen man
to fifteen man. I wait one hundred eighty ten eighty
lines are open. Our texts are also running nineteen ninet
two ZBZ bear run through a couple of those for you. Shortly,
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should Rugby be chasing these stars? And in a more
holistic view, DA code hobbles like this actually generate eyeballs.
That bums on seats doesn't make a sceric of difference.
Will it attract you to a game?
Speaker 4 (26:46):
For you?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
You're the punter, You're the eyeballs? Though on you tell me,
I'll wait one hundred eighty ten eighty. There's twenty five
minutes to eight with that.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
CoFe.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's like you never even let me remember when you
swear to God it was the curse my name for
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Take that in Chris, how are.
Speaker 9 (27:23):
You you doing? Brother? Yeah, not so bad excellent mate. Hey,
can I just offer a point of view from the
Kingdom of Australia being a Kiwi that's lived here for
a little while, Being a being a Kiwi that's lived
here and works in the AFL system predominantly round our talent, draft, mentoring,
preparing athletes. You know, I think if RA is going
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to take on the AFL and say say they're wasting
their time. The depth it's like rugby was when we
were growing up in christ Church, right, it's deep. I
think the only way they can get out of this,
and it hurts me to say, because I'm a Kei.
We all black fans through and through canobury fan through
and through is I think they're bucking up the wrong tree,
taking talent out of an existing city them such as
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AFL or NRL. They need to come home to New Zealand.
I think there's vacancies for at least five hundred players
to come across. We've got a labor shortage in every state,
not just the state I'm calling from. There's jobs abundant
that RA can tape get these guys playing rugby at
club and state.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
You on a mass exit of worker talent from New
Zealand to go and work in Aussie and if you've
got a rugby background even better.
Speaker 9 (28:39):
Yeah, I think look at the field point of view,
that's all that is. I'm not a Rugby Australia fan
at all. I've got five children that you know. My
oldest daughter wasn't alive when they last won the Blueterslow Cup.
I'm now looking at the success of Super rugby and
international rugby in our backyard with a non competitive Australia,
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it hurts us. So if Rugby Australia my point of
view being and Rugby Australia are serious about growing the game,
they start at a club level in each state, where
each state has an employee shortage right now, skilled or otherwise.
That sets a platform to relocate some families across that
are playing NPC rugby, Heartland rugby. Bring them in, get
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them grounded, get them started. But New Zealand's got to
step up to and make sure these kids are still
eligible to play Super or All Black if that's the
route they want to take. So again, let's feel point
of view, man, but I think it's probably going to
cost the same, maybe a little less than going into
the NROL or I think he's dreaming with AFL it's
a different athlete. It's a different athletes being prepared fourteen
(29:43):
years old to play key positions. We develop them all
around the field, so they just don't turn up as
a batman or a ford. They're trained across the field. Obviously,
if they're trying to dred centimeters, they're a key player.
But none of that bombing design is going to be
any good now game in rugby union. So that's my
left field idea.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Darth and Chris, thanks for sharing it. And I think
that Ossie Rugby are desperately after a sugar hit. Who isn't.
But this is only dealing with the top for a
limited period. I said it in the introduction. It's a
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band aid over a machette wound. Their arms are hanging
off their shoulders, blood and sinew and bone and muscle
every at it. We'll just take a band aid and
it will be fine. I appreciate what Hamish is trying
to say. He wants to replicate that success, but it's
got to start from the ground up. Paul Texas and
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a Darcy. What Australian Rugby got off of Clary is
a sabbatical to players rugby in the North of England
to be close to his girlfriend. It's an idea, Paul,
but would it actually work. Clary would be too slow
and not able to tackle well enough, Thank you very
much for that. The best success or he would have
to be brad Thorn. And that isn't he not? That
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describe him like he's the thing close he would He's
the outlier, is he not? The amount of rugby league
men in the pack that transfer to rugby union have
the success that they do it so small, so limited.
It's mostly big outside backs, big midfielders that actually get
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it done. Yeah, he's absolute in the nicest possible way.
A freak show. Nothing clearly Parentary his sacred heart for
a couple of years, which is a rugby school. He
may have dabbled in it there, Darcy Rugby league. It's
a simpleton's game. Run it straight, run it straight, run
it straight, pass it wide, kick it, rinse and repeat oss.
He needs forwards, not backs. No league player has ever
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been a rugby before, well, he said brad Thorne who's
did particularly well. Callaway and Edmed advanced their games by
playing over. Here's a team he'd been played for you
play for Harbor this year. Yeah, so possibility, that's the
way to go. I don't know if the sugar HiT's
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going to work. It's sixteen minutes to eight Talk Cricket.
Next on the program Ratchen Revendra be our guest him
of all of those runs, wonderful, calm temperament and general
all round nice guy vibes. They're playing the Indians tomorrow
(32:43):
and the Indians have prepared a pitch to suit them,
to favor them. Will it work? Find out watching Revenger
joins his hair. Next on new Stalk how the Field,
Chip we Man hugging nerves were joining out On sports
(33:10):
Talk Byretro Revendra as we look ahead to Pune tomorrow,
the second Test of three against the Indians, right, and
you'll be looking forward to this, I expect the Indian
team and the Indian public are a little on the
irate side. They'll be coming you with everything they possibly can.
Does that represent to you possibly a crack in their
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armor the way they'll approach this because they won't be happy.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
Yeah, honestly, I don't know. Obviously, it was great to
get that win.
Speaker 10 (33:41):
Last week, but look, I think we all know how
competitive Indian people are, how competitive Indian teamers and the
intensity they bring to each and every ball. So I
think it will just be, you know, lo what we expect.
And yeah, maybe the Indian public probably care more about
these two Test matches now, but the beauty of it
is we've put ourselves in a position in the series
to you know, for Shan and see what happens.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
But I'm really excited for it.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Deck's been talked about a lot. There's only the third
testa match actually being played at Puna, which is interesting
in itself. There was one where a two hundred plus
was scored by Kohli and of course a massive defeat
of three out of thirty three runs when the pitch
fell apart. Can we predict anything with the nature of
this deep We know it's going to be lower and
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slower and made a lot of dark soil, but what
do we know about how long it's going to last? Rerection.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Yeah, it's always a tough one. I'm I'm not a
great person at reading a workout. I'm always looking at it.
I have no idea what it's going to do. But
the guys above me, I know, you know, the Garys
and the tommies and the experienced players will know a
bit more about it. I think to the naked eye
looks pretty dry. It looks like it will take ten
from day one, So there's a bit of a fifew unknowns.
I guess we'll have to see once the first ball's bowld.
(34:51):
But for us as a team, something we pride ourselves
on as our adaptability, We're going to adapt quickly and
as fast as we can to selfs in front of
us knowing, hey, it's a different game that were compared
to last week.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Pitch is going to be different bowlers, My ball slally differently.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
And what do we need to do is a to
counter that? But yeah, I guess it's just a balancing
act and I'm trying to work that all out.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
We thought the toss was going to be key last week,
turns out it wasn't. Is it going to be just
as key tomorrow? You don't know, do you?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Yeah? Not quite sure.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
I think it was kind of a good one that
we lost that tossa last week. But I think more
often than not, you want to win the toss in
beat in India, especially on turning wickets. So hopefully, hopefully
that works out but either way, I think we hopefully
we can compete in our own way and realize, hey,
the toss is actually out of our control. What we
can is control our attitude for every single ball we
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put in, so regardless of the toss, hopefully we can
come in with a great attitude.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I'm presuming you celebrated, but not too long and too
hard after that victory. Pretty simple to put it behind
you now though, and just look forward.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
Yeah, for sure, I think it's once again official sports
always a balancing act. I think you've got to have
that balance between savoring each win and each special moment
on this journey, but also being able to move on
quickly knowing, look, we've only had three days in between
Test matches, so I think that that that day after
the Test match is obviously nice to get around the
boys and reflect on what it's been, you know, a
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great four or five days and the first team to
do it for Sad thirty six years is especial and
for us to share.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
That as a group was amazing.
Speaker 10 (36:24):
But then also realizing, hey, there's two more Test matches
left in the series. We know where we want to
get to in the rest series, so you know, we
we focus ourselves on our posts, as we pride ourselves
on staying level and knocking too high and low, and
obviously enjoying each other's successes, but realizing, hey, it's a
it's a game that's emotionally you know, it's an emotional
wreck if you ride every single high and low. So
(36:46):
if we can, you know, continue that consistent key we attitude,
I hopefully it will be fine.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You spend a bit of time out in the middle.
I take you, who had a chance to rest your
weary legs. But how much net time have you spent?
Because that is key? And have you had the whole
fellings of locals turn up to bowl tweak?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Is that you?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Because I'm sure they'll be all over it wouldn't they?
Speaker 10 (37:05):
Of course always in this part of the world, Darcy,
you've got a bunch of new bottles, read the ball,
thousands of balls, thousands of overs, so it's always.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
Nice to have that.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
But I guess for me, I'm someone who likes to
had a lot of balls, no matter how many runs
I score.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
On previous tests. It's just I guess it's very calming
for me.
Speaker 10 (37:19):
And gets to you know, affilm to me that my
plans are ride and obviously going to a different ground
as well. It's important to have a feel for the
Wicked and the feel for the ground. I feel like
it's a different challenge as well. So yeah, probably maybe
overdid it a little bit yesterday, but that's okay, That's
that's how I'm always going to be. But hopefully today
maybe have a slightly more chill day and restar up
(37:39):
for the next five days.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
We're doing this via zoom, so I can see you
sitting in your hotel room. Are you stuck there? Are
you allowed out? Are you a prisoner of your own success?
To expect if you hit the streets you just get mobbed,
wouldn't you?
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Yeah, it is. It is interesting.
Speaker 10 (37:53):
I mean, yeah, we don't go out to start of
the hotel too much. The fans are pretty pasionate, pretty crazy.
You do get there, you do get mobbed a little bit.
But I think the cool thing about it is, you know,
you know, you can complain about it all you want,
but at end of the day, you know, I'm very
grateful for the fan support and the following knowing that
you know, all these people care about us, care about
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the game we play, so deeply, and I wouldn't have
a career without all the fans, right, So for me,
it's important that I you know that I am grateful
for all that and realize what sort of special position
and how privileged we are to play this game from what.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I can gather from revenge of joining us. So you're
not letting any of this go to your head. You
need to have right from your early days in Wellington,
because you're only one interesting delivery away from a golden duck.
You just reset and carry on. That's the way you've been,
That's the way you're going to carry on being. You're
not going to let it get ahead of you.
Speaker 10 (38:44):
Hopefully not Darcy, and hopefully people around me will brain
me if I get to. But for me, that's that's
definitely an important thing. I think it's comes more than
just the values you knows me now, but it's sort
of what's been drawn into me as a kid. Well
my parents you know, wanted me to be and how
they you know, raised me to be, and as kiwis
as well, it's important you know we're all good people,
(39:06):
you know, chill chill, chill vibes, and especially the leaders
in the team show that off as well. You know,
you've got Cain, who's you know, the greatest, and he's
so you know, so humble, and you've got Timmy and
you've got the guys guys like that who've.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Achieved so much. Why the just normal people the end
of the day.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
So for me, that's that's the most important thing, you know,
you know, it doesn't matter how great of a cricket
you are.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I think it matters that the quality of person. And
for me that's that's important.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, and you mentioned Kane Williamson. He's not going to
be there. I expect will Young stoked though, because he
did good, didn't he? And he's got another opportunity which
is pretty rare for.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
Will Yeah, very pleased for Youngie.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
Obviously disappointing to not have Kana a best ever better,
but Yang he played brilliantly, didn't he both innings? Obviously
probably was a bit disappointed to miss out with the start.
Started really well in the first innings, but second he
just wrapped it up beautifully. Was very nice to share
that little partnership with him. I've had played a lot
of Cracker with Janie and to see him flourish and
the Loom's opportunities he gets is amazing and he's a
(40:00):
he's a great play against the great positions. He's great
to watch from the other ends. So hopefully he can
do it again this Test.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And one last thing. It is your hometown. What do
you call it? This is from the last test. You
say Bangalore or Bengaluru. It's one of each, isn't it?
How does it roll?
Speaker 10 (40:17):
Yeah, I'm not too much in tune with mind in
heritage that much, to be honest, but I think it
is Bengalu.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
I think the Bengaluru.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
I've said it, and f you're into his Bangalore and
I feel like, well, maybe that's been wrong.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Yeah, I think the locals call it Bengaluru.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Now, well you're in Pune now, which used to be
called Poona. I'm losing count and on that only you
go Russian. As always, thanks very much for your time.
Are looking forward to another tremendous five days sitting on
my couch watching you guys play crecket. It's been fantastic.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
The right call is your call on eighty Sports Talk
call on your home of sports US Talk.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Zibby, such a lovely man. From five o'clock tomorrow that
second Test gets under way. We hope the weather doesn't interrupt.
That is from poone. Some quite astonishing happened today in
the NB A first time in the long and storied history,
father and son setd up and played for the same
(41:18):
team roll in the James crew history.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Tonight the first father son duo to play together in
an NBA game.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
This is all in the family. Yeah, what a celebration
for the James family. Advice for Bronnie James making his
NBA debut out of the timeout, lebron James, you major
(41:55):
flush didn't say that about Bunnie, did they? What did
you get? What on the court for a couple of
minutes it is to pick up a rebound. It's like, hey, Ben,
and I'll ever do and my dad as well well.
Now and play to see that cool moment in history though.
Fantastic love that and the ferns. We're just gone into
(42:16):
the second quarter and leading Australia eighteen twelve from Spark
Arena in Auckland. Here we go again. Thanks very much
for joining us, Thanks for your texts, thanks for your
phone calls, thanks for your attention. Thank you. Andy Duff
the hardest job in show business. We'll be back again
(42:39):
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