October 31, 2024 • 33 mins
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Black Cap Ajaz Patel ahead of Test 3 in India.
Talkback - Is Gary Stead one of our greatest coaches ever? Are we too rough on him?
Fox Sports expert Ben Maller on the Dodgers winning the World Series.
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read your words. But I'm not that fast, earl. Things
said and done coming up in the program tonight. Toward
the end of the show, I'm going to catch up
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with my good friend, although we have never actually met,
but I've been broadcasting with Ben Malif I know, twenty
years now and so it would have been that long.
He is over in La Guess what's happening over there
right now? Pandemonium. Well we'll find out when we go
to Ben Meller and find out what's happening in Dodgerstown
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because they are happy he's picked up the World Series
the eighth time they have it, done it, and I'd
suggest they'll be partying. Oh no long, sorry to your
fans of Lionel Richie for doing that. So Ben Malay
from Fox Sport Radio joins us around about quarter to
eight to celebrate California AA and the West Coast up first.
(01:57):
Though Ajas Patel, he's a spinow. He's done reasonably well
in Mumbai. It's his hometown, and a couple of years
ago he did something rather strange in sport. We'll talk
about that later in the piece, but next he'll join
us and talk about what's coming up tomorrow evening at
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five o'clock. The chance to go three on the bounce
up against the mite of Indian cricket.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Before any of that, though this Sport Today, that in
Sport Today is I was just saying the La Dodgers
are the toast of US baseball. Executed the eighth total
today after an explosive fifth inning turn the tide on
the returning Yankees in New Yolks start swinging wish at
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the time to celebrate. He didn't take a day off.
He won football fans and Kiwi sports fans are hoping
that the violent, barbaric, bottom feeding antics of European football
fans replicated this weekend in the A League derby between
the Phoenix he and Auckland FC AKA see coach Steve Corricer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
We don't want any trouble of a course, but I
think that's been probably thrown out of proportion. You know,
both sets of fans as soon as they support their
own team and do the best for their own team,
and that's the main thing, and it's a good positive
game as well.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We're better than that. I know we are. Go well,
go well, I'd say, what is it? Three forty five?
The draw? I like that, not all I've got any
money to do it, but I will anyway. Gary Stead
feeling questions around his continued employment as black Caps coach,
which is pretty wretch considering what he's.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Achieved design cricket and I when we get to that point,
we'll have discussions around what it means for me and
for them in the future. And we're not at that
stage of finalizing anything yet, so I'm sure when we do,
then you guys will be best and our.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Calm collected mild mannered, nice work coach man Mountain Range.
That's the proper to Mighty Williams has been studying his
in zeer how to deal with the media, handbooks and downs.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I'd say a lot of learnings. You know, there's a
a new coaching team. Last few boys left and it's
exciting for I guess us. It's our time now and
we want to build on the legacy. And we've learned
a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And the ab team is said to be named. We
run about twelve at thirty tomorrow morning at New Zealand
time and what forget.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The riffs call sports today.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's ten minutes after seven AJS PTTEL on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Aj Is of course will be part of the team
that hopefully take on and take Abart India in Mumbai,
that game starting roughly five o'clock tomorrow afternoon. With the
pending you'd expected to be okay at wen Kenny, he
joins us. Now, and look, it's a simple old game
when it comes to beating the opposition. I suppose the
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trick here after two consecutive victories, is again keeping it
simple as welcome. I hope you'll over complicating this.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
No, I mean, it's it's really you know, we know
it's going to be a challenge again and we know
how good India are at home, so it's always going
to be tough and they're always going to be coming
out firing. So yeah, it's about kind of continuing to
do the good stuff that we did and building on
this stuff that probably wasn't so great.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So what wasn't so great? I mean you started it,
of course I'm going to finish it. What wasn't so great?
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I think, I mean for me personally especially, I think,
you know, continuing to build on that consistency with the
ball and stuff like that, and.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I think a bit of luck goes a long way
in this game as well.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
But I think we've you know, shown some real character
with I guess our batting aspect as well, and batting
in tough conditions in India. Our batters have come out
firing shots and played some you know, top knocks, and
it's really about continuing to do that and continuing to
have that mindset of you know, being aggressive and being
positive and putting you know, some some runs on the
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board and that's I suppose a positive but it's also
then kind of capitalizing on those moments as well and
turning those partnerships into into big ones.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Mindset extremely important.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But when you suggest, like we'll take the Indians onto
their own game, hey, people go, really you sure about that?
But I didn't see them overly perturbed about what they
were bringing to the exchange.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It was what you guys were doing.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, the mindset has
probably shifted a little bit, I guess in the in
the camp in terms of batting and batting in these conditions,
and you're seeing guys take on more I suppose if
you looked at it from the outside, it probably look
like harh risk options. But these are options that guys
are practicing day and day out, so they're not necessarily
high risks for the individual. And it's guys taking on
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the options that are strong and suited to them and
taking the game on that way. And it's it's been
really positive to see and obviously like sometimes you're going
to fail, but it's about kind of continuing to trust
in that work and continuing to back that ability to
really play those positive shots and have that tent from
the word go.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Watching Mitchell Santana do what Mitchell Santana did. And knowing
him like we do, he's hardly going to go into
the shed up and goes, hey, check me out, bro,
He's going to go that work okay, And you didn't
have the greatest of success, but an important part of
the holding pattern do you look at Mitchell and go,
what are you doing that I'm not doing right now?
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What did you learn from him?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Well, I mean I think he showed what, you know,
having good control on a surface, especially a surface as
a system, you can do. But also it's kind of
understanding that you know, he's on top of the world
and he's bowling phenomenally at the moment, and he's got
great rhythm. So it was my role at the other
end and make sure, I guess I kept supporting him
and making sure that we're tying out both ends so
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that way he can continue to attack from the other
And sometimes you have to take a back seat, and
you know.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
It's how you really have to operate.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
I guess it's really about team performances in this part
of the world.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
And you know, yes, obviously individually he.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Had a phenomenal outing and he bowled exceptionally well.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
But I thought as a whole. The guys did.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Their roles quite well in terms of you know, myself
and GP from the other end holding and then chipping
in bits and pieces. But yeah, I guess you know,
he was phenomenal and had an amazing game and I think,
you know, you can't take that away from him. He
bolted exceptionally with great control and his guyle and everything
like that. Everything he loved to see as a spinner.
He had it all and it was just brilliant to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Came out of the blue for a lot of people
when you've been around, even though what he's like, you've
seen him and did the hugely surprise you that it'd
have this effect in the red bull game when the
white ball game is basically where he's made his name.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And were there any hints early on in the B Saget.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
I don't think within the environment, I don't think it
comes as too much of a surprise if I'm honest, like, yeah,
he's obviously you know, he's been crafted in the white
ball game and he's been phenomenal in the white ball arena.
But he's always had the attributes to be a very
good spinner in terms of Test cricket and you know,
having more opportunities and more game time. I guess he's
just figuring out what his method is and we saw
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it last game, like what he's capable of. So it's
just about, you know, for us as spinners, it's about
getting opportunities and it's about growing from those opportunities and
figuring out, you know, what our method is as individuals.
I mean it's different for everyone. And bowling in the nets,
he's exceptional who puts a lot on the ball. He's
got great ball control, and he's got all the skills to.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Be, you know, a Test spinner.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
It's just you know, obviously getting those opportunities over and
over again for all of us. And yeah, I don't
think too many people in the camp were surprised, to
be honest with you. It look from the outside it
looks like he hasn't had that much success. But also
if you watch closely in a lot of those other games,
he was I guess, fulfilling the opposite role and he
was probably being the holding person and holding the other
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end while we could attack from the other side. So
it just kind of goes backwards and forwards, and it's
about us as a unit. You know, continuing to perform
and I guess putting performances out there so we can
put our team in a position to win a game just.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Out of your thirty sixth birthday and you're kind of
playing a home game in Mumbai, does that still carry
a lot of weight for you?
Speaker 8 (10:14):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, I love Mumbai.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
I mean it's definitely a second home for me, and
I spend a lot of time in Mumbai, so there's
always quite special being back here. But to have the
opportunity to play here more is quite exciting, and obviously
there'll be probably a little bit more pressure, I guess
coming back last time it was kind of, you know,
just exciting to be in Mumbai and playing Mumbai. But
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I guess this time around there will probably be a
little bit more added pressure for certain reasons.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
But yeah, no, it's always cool to be in Mumbai
and playing Mumbai. But it's certainly quite hot at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'd expect that completely understandable and when you go back there,
Because I had an Indian resident call me a couple
of weeks ago on air and we're talking about why
it's so hard to actually be India in their own
backyard and he goes mad. I'm an Indian, but I
go home every couple of years and he goes. It
takes me a week to get used to the place,
and I come from there. It's something quite extraordinary. It's
really hard to actually to settle into. You guys will
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probably be settled by now, i'd suggest, all though Thecals
might be giving a wee bit of grief. Are you
feeling that energy from everybody?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Not really.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I mean, obviously everyone's very passionate about cricket over here,
but they also, you know, they also respect good performances,
I guess, and I think they also appreciate how difficult
it is to be India and India and you know
that we've gone out there and done something quite special,
So I think they respect that.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But they get around the end team, no doubt about it.
I guess. For us, it's about now we're at a
new venue, and it's really about.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I guess, acclimatizing to the conditions again and adapting to
what we are going to face. And it'll be interesting
to see what this wicket brings and how it plays,
and then it's about us adapting to that. And I guess,
you know, taking positive options based on that surface.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What's it going to do? One kitty, what's it like?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Do you have any idea how it's going to respond,
how it's going to react.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I think it'll certainly have a bit more pace in
the surface from the last wicket and definitely have a
bit more bound because it's predominantly red soil, which tends
to have those two attributes. And then it'll be interesting
to see how much it really turns. I mean looking
it's looking pretty dry at the minute, and it'll be
interesting to see how it kind of looks closer to
game time. And also this heat that things can change
(12:22):
very very quickly and that moisture kind of comes out
of the surface very quick.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
So it's just yeah, I guess for us, it's.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Making sure we adapt from session de session and day
to day and I guess take up the challenges that
are presented to us.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
As far as the health of the side goes, I.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Believe there's a question mark.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Maybe still have a Matt Henry and Mitchell Santra as
well to day where are they standing at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm presuming you've got a medical degree and you can.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Fil on the details tell, to be honest with you,
I mean, they both bold and better today, so I
can't really give you too much.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
I think the medical staff will probably have a bit
more andfro on that.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Yeah, but obviously they're keeping a close eye on both
of them and seeing, you know, how they fear go
into this one. But yeah, well I'm not one hundred
percent sure, if I'm completely honest with you, but hopefully
all things going well.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
And they're both kind of fit and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, I know something you do know even about that's yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
How's you? How's your d how are you feeling? How's
your heat space?
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I mean, you know, it's always exciting to play Teestcrupt
for New Zealand and having those opportunities to represent your
country is always quite special. So I think every time
you get the opportunity to do that, it's quite amazing.
And I guess for me to be back in Mumbai
and be in India is pretty cool as well. I mean,
you know, being in the country of my birth but
also the city of my birth now is pretty surreal,
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to be honest with you, And I remember last time
I was here, I couldn't believe that I was here,
and I guess I have the same feeling coming back
this time around. If I'm honest, I didn't think i'd
ever get another opportunity to play here again. So it's
actually quite exciting to kind of be back here and
you know, have the prospect of getting out there again.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Jeez, you've done so well the whole time. I've been
chatting and even talked about the elephant in the room.
Come on, mate, you must have fond memories ten for
one hundred and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Come on, bro.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, certainly fond memories, obviously, But at the same time,
the game didn't really kind of pan out the way
that we would have liked.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I guess that's the other thing I always tend to
look at, as you know, I guess the results. You know,
when you take fifers and your team's winning, it's always
quite cool, and when, yeah, when it doesn't quite go
your way, it kind of probably doesn't feel as good.
But in saying that, I can't lie and say that,
you know, taking ten workers in the game is not
satisfying it. I think it's the epitomy of the game,
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and you can't really, you know, not that feeling. But
at the same time, I mean to be honest, I
still probably don't really comprehend it, and I probably won't
until I've kind of finished my career off. It's a
weird thing to say, but it's kind of hard to
really describe really in that that feeling because I guess
you never expect something like that to happen or achieve
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Nobody did like it, Kula, But tell, I mean, really
quite extraordinary. But I'm sure you'll park that You'll get
amongst and hopefully completely whitewashed the Indians. This could be
a magnificent five days, four days, three days of Test cricket.
No just for tell, never a chore speaking to you,
(15:21):
get a marksman, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
Talks it bey Ajz Patel there one of only three
men in history to pick up ten wickets in an
innings in Test cricket. Coom black Laker Patel extraordinary Back
there now at the scene of the crime from a
couple of years ago. It's nice to hear as well
that he still really hasn't settled with it yet. Maybe
when he gets you know, old and gray, he might go, well,
it was kind of cool, such measured, calm character. He's been,
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could you say, treated poorly by the selectors. I still
entirely sure that the spin bowlers in New Zealand don't
tend to be given the link the rope to string
themselves up with, do they? But his return, he's come back,
he gets another crack. We see what the Santana claus
has done. So maybe the Twins spin has come into
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action and you spin the Indians against Sorry, the black Caps,
I've got no contribution to this can outspin the Indians
again as Thanks so much for joining a couple of
text on that before we open the lines for your calls.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty Darcy, I've listened to
you for two decades. Wow, it really has been that long.
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I can't wait to hear Ben Mallory again.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Thanks Kevy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You did see me a bottle of line ten fifteen
years ago, didn't you. I've still got it. No, I
haven't lasted half an hour. I don't think it lasted
when I go out to the studio and.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
This Texas says.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
What a well spoken guy to tell is we need
more of him. Bring on the spin twins. It's not
unusual in cracket, though, is it really? Buy and large
cricketers are reasonably smart, reasoning intelligent, reasonably well spoken individuals,
so it's a joy to get them on the wireless
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have a chat. There's been a couple that haven't been.
But I'll just let that sleeping dog lie because it's
no good for anyone if I bring it up right
talk back time. I adde hundred eighty ten eighty free
fire number nationwide in text nineteen nineteen. But I much
tried you called I one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We played a clip. When I say we, I mean
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me played a clip before, and I play this back
to you. This is Gary Stead, the black Caps coach,
the highly successful black Caps coach, feeling a question around
his job prospects as the black Caps coach.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
His response.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Designed cricket and I when we get to that point,
we'll have discussions around what it means for me and
of them in the future. And we're not at that
stage of finalizing anything yet, so I'm sure when we do,
then you guys will be first and are Can.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You hear in his voice the tone underneath and going,
oh shut up, really get out? Have you got something
else to ask?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Unerstandaby?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He's crecit than I haven't quite reached the stage where
ready to go to get it in, screaming on the inside. Gimmy,
it's a credit, So listen to this. No, it's not
anyone else's voice, it's mine. First Test series, Gary Stead
twenty eighteen. We took over from Mike Hessen two one,
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trying for way to Pakistan in the UAE. Year later,
coached the black Caps to a World Cup final, the
second and succession after losing the twenty decider, and I
was horrible.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
In twenty twenty one, the black Caps won the inaugural
World Test Championship. He was the coach a few months
later the final of the T twenty World Cup in
the UAE. So led the black Caps to world finals
in all three forms of the game. First person to
coach the New Zealand men's team to the mark of
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the number one Test side. There have been some down points,
but generally it's great and what's just happened recently, I
coached the Black Caps to an Ourai series win against
in India. You don't do that. He's really good at
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what he does. He's got the ear of his players.
They listen to him, he's got the respect. He doesn't
overstate his case or its cause. So the question here,
when they do well, everyone lords the players. It's not
unusual in sport. When they do terribly, everybody attacks the coach.
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It as a guess that Gary Steed's the best cricket
coach New Zealand's ever had. Fight with me, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. We don't give him the
jew credit?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Why is this?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeh, there's times they've fallen over against Australia away Afghanistan's
theories wasn't great, that was terrible, Sorry Sri Lanka. But
as a whole, what extraordinary success this guy has had.
Why does he not get the traction that other coaches
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have got? Why is he still is it fair to
say an outlier and popularity in the world of cricket.
Tell me about Gary Stead? Why hasn't he given due credit?
Because you've got to say, results wise, he's the best
we've ever had twenty seven minutes after seven Sports Talk
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I don't even want it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
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Talk call on your home of sports news.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Talk, much better version. Thank you for swatting that earworm.
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Good work, ants Milica to past seven Sports Talker and
the News Talks ab Ben Malla to join the program
fifteen twenty minutes or so. As most of the West
Coast celebrate Dodgers picking up the eighth World Series, got
that sort of New York this afternoon. Quite the match
talk more with being about that, celebrations who won, why
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and how they're still coming up here and now though
cricket and I'm still fascinated. All right, I'll put my
hand up here. I'll be completely honest around this. When
the team does do badly, a plainly, you question the figurehead,
right because it's easier to pile blame on one person
than eleven, and I think predominantly that comes from selection issues.
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Why on earth did you do that? If someone doesn't
do particularly well, He never overreacts this guy Gary Steed,
He don't huh, all right, he's these the black Knight,
your chopper's leg off.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
This is just a flesh wound. Doesn't bother them.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
He's very calm and he's plainly got the ear of
all of his players now listen to when they respect him.
And yet things aren't always going to go right and
Test cricket, but his record, it really has been phenomenal.
I'm not quite sure if he gets given the credit
(22:57):
he is deserved, he may well carry on for another
few who knows, unless he's tired of traveling overseas, which
can completely understand rather onerous doing that is part of
your job. So my question of eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty don't he doesn't get the credit he's deserves.
But he's he the best coach that New Zealand men's
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cricket has ever had.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He has to be right.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Why do we struggle to give him credit? I know
it's a bit of a long shot, but when New
Zealand won the World Test Championship, I want to say
they won what was it seven tests on the bounce
to get through there. They can do it again. They've
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got to win the next four matches. They've got to
beat India at home, and then they've got to roll
England three zip. Now that would seem extraordinary and outrageous,
but based on the talent and the momentum, even though
momentum can we stop? Mean we know it can be stopped.
Is that too much of a stress or a stretch
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to think that New Zealand can't roll in and actually
achieve this again? The team has dramatically changed into the
last World Test Championship. Wonderful younger players coming through that
will be pivotal. Do you either remember that these two
tests up against the Indians didn't have arguably the best
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player we've ever had to put.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
On Whites.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Sitting at the back saw egg Wow. And it was
the efforts of some of the younger guys the next
level coming through here, and obviously with Mitch Sander one
of the more senior statesmen. But it shows I believe
what Gary Stead has got, what he's instilled in this
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team as far as their own self confidence. Could you
imagine picking up this side after getting rolled by Sri
Lanka basically destroying World Test Championship chances, Everything there's no
way it's going to happen. Now, they'll be lucky to
pick up one one against India, little three to pick
this team up and give them a cuddle. So it's
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going to be okay. We'll learn what we learn, we
move on and then to achieve this arguably the most
difficult thing to do in crickets. Win a Test series
in India and it's done. I don't see them taking
the foot off the throat. I don't see them take
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the foot off the pedal. Last time I spoke of
the game and I said, look, the problem with India
is they're coming into this with I won't exactly say
fire in their belly or huge rage, but they were
not happy after being embarrassed in their own backyard and
they turned coming from a place of seething anger, which
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is not an idea way to go into any form
of sport, twisted up the decks so it worked in
their favor. Just over extended and over complicated it for themselves.
Bam beaten again, not out of the question. Iight hundred
eighty ten eighty. Where does he sit considering what stead
has done, what he has achieved with this side across
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all forms of the game. It's hard to think that
he's not the best coaches in New Zealands have cricket.
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to talk to
you about this. I agree or disagree nineteen ninety two.
That's the text line.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I get a couple of texts for you. This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Instead stands on the shoulders of Hessen. It's kind of
ironic because he's hardly a giant, is he. If you
know where that old saying comes from, you know exactly
what I'm talking about. And Hessen did great things. But
you go further on to what Steed has done right
across all forms of the game and the changing of
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the guard with some of the best players walking away,
and how he's managed that.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Got to give him credit.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He doesn't ask for he doesn't cared, rather just be
in the background.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Couldn't bother them.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
He'd been brilliant, Sonny Wrights, just imagine what Gary Stegg
could do if New Zealand Cricket actually had money to
retain players and a good tours to New Zealand. He's
only shown us a glimpse of what he can do
as a coach, and I think that's a really relevant point, soney.
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He's yelling cricket, and I think it's fair and right
because they don't have the money have said, look it
doors open. You want to go on there and play
a bit of te twining and you want to go
out there and play in this mercenary league. Fine, go,
We're not going to stop me.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
We can't. Okay, what are we going to do? How
we work this?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So what they've done has been necessary. I won't say evil,
but close. And Gary's managed to pick his way through
this and do what he's done so far. Hey Jamie,
how are you?
Speaker 9 (28:14):
How are you all right?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Pretty happy?
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Oh that's good. I just wanted to make a point
of Yes, I do follow a new zealing cricket and
I enjoy watching cricket. But I think most of our
teams don't put the foot on the throat like the
netballers didn't do with Australia over last night. Yeah, they
need a bit of a bit of a tech like
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like like finish it off, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, my only defense to that, Jamie, and there's many
examples of what you're saying is that that they didn't
really need to put on the throat, the foot on
the throat, because that already choked the life out of
them by winning the series.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I get three three to one.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So you know, if it was a case when we
lose and then suddenly you lose the series, maybe then
and with the cricket team, they've already won the series.
So do they need to get them all?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, I want to see them do it, but
you know what.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I mean, I want to see them win three is
up to be honest. I want them to like put
the foot on the throat and say, yes we are
we are a team to reckon with and we've beating
you three nil, which I was hoping for the woman
netboorders last night to do the same thing. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think we all wanted that, and maybe there is
a degree of oh, we've got it done now we
can relax. But when you look at this one, Jamie,
they've got to win against India, then they've got to
win three consecutive Test matches at home against England, then
they go to the World Test Championship finally again. Now
I think that is enough of a carrotter, is it not?
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To not rest on their Laurels.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Listen, Darth. I actually love cricket, I actually love net boil,
love all sports. But I just think our New Zealand
teams don't put the last finishing point on on a
game like this, yeah this go this go four nil
or this goes three nil, because that there was confidence
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in our teams.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Right well, that used to that used to be an
all black thing, right and the all Blacks? What have
they done this year? They've proven beyond the point that
they can't do anything the last twenty minutes and became
a rugby like, what are you're doing?
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Yeah that's true, but they're real bit, they're rebuilding, They've
they've lost a few good players in the last since
the last World Cup. But give them a couple of years,
I'll come right. But I just want I just want
New Zealand teams to put the foot on the throat
when it comes to the finals and just show the world,
yes we can beat them, like all up, all games.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Relentless, that's what they need to be, absolutely relentless, no prisoners.
What's it that? Yes, you were David tiur is it
an injury guy and he looked like he had finished,
but he would never go on there and actually finish
them off. It's probably an unpopular thing to say because
two is legion, but he just didn't show that. I'm
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now it's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
All over to a word. What is a pity?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Parkers showed that early doors, then it kind of dissipated.
Now he's back doing what he does best. And gee,
I hope he gets to take on Daniel dubois man.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Twenty eight sports talker and News Talks EB Coming up next,
We're gonna check him with Ben Miller from Fuck Sport Radio,
the USA longtime American broadcast, talking about the joy in
Los Angeles, which is where he is. Let the celebration
of the random gunfire into the night sky continue up
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next here on news Talk zb B.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Let me up.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Everybody took the Wild Wild West a stake that's un touchable,
Like the track it shit near Troll.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I'm like a stuck to your ship.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You're wrecked on mind and met Sich. Oddly, I was
listening to this this morning on the way to work,
because that's what us elderly people do. We find great
tracks from our past when we're young and vibrant, we
replay them again so we still pretend we're cool even
though we're not. Is there anything uncooler than a middle aged,
(32:29):
skinny white guy playing old school hip hop at the
size of a Suzuki swift.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's tragic.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thirty four year old skinnyweight producer playing it on their
radio show.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It is that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh this is such a good track though California A
congratulations Dodge as well. Really quite absorbing that final game,
especially considering that new gangs are lit are going to
go up and the head. It was all over the
and come the fifth inning Bang five, whoa hold on
the Ohle narrative has changed here and they celebrate. They'll
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for joining us. If you want to hear him all
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If you write into your American sport as the way
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Ask Shane Cameron of tour finishes someone cdeo vehicle.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Nasty.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But just like sometimes he had a guy in the ripes,
he had him like broken up, and he just stood
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He was gone punch him again. Thanks Hans Milicix for
producing the absence Bandy Duff. My name is Darcy walder Grave.
It's been a joy, your privilege a pleasure and all
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with my good friend, although we have never actually met,
but I've been broadcasting with Ben Malif I know, twenty
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He is over in La Guess what's happening over there
right now? Pandemonium. Well we'll find out when we go
to Ben Meller and find out what's happening in Dodgerstown
(01:36):
because they are happy he's picked up the World Series
the eighth time they have it, done it, and I'd
suggest they'll be partying. Oh no long, sorry to your
fans of Lionel Richie for doing that. So Ben Malay
from Fox Sport Radio joins us around about quarter to
eight to celebrate California AA and the West Coast up first.
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Though Ajas Patel, he's a spinow. He's done reasonably well
in Mumbai. It's his hometown, and a couple of years
ago he did something rather strange in sport. We'll talk
about that later in the piece, but next he'll join
us and talk about what's coming up tomorrow evening at
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five o'clock. The chance to go three on the bounce
up against the mite of Indian cricket.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Before any of that, though this Sport Today, that in
Sport Today is I was just saying the La Dodgers
are the toast of US baseball. Executed the eighth total
today after an explosive fifth inning turn the tide on
the returning Yankees in New Yolks start swinging wish at
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the time to celebrate. He didn't take a day off.
He won football fans and Kiwi sports fans are hoping
that the violent, barbaric, bottom feeding antics of European football
fans replicated this weekend in the A League derby between
the Phoenix he and Auckland FC AKA see coach Steve Corricer.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
We don't want any trouble of a course, but I
think that's been probably thrown out of proportion. You know,
both sets of fans as soon as they support their
own team and do the best for their own team,
and that's the main thing, and it's a good positive
game as well.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
We're better than that. I know we are. Go well,
go well, I'd say, what is it? Three forty five?
The draw? I like that, not all I've got any
money to do it, but I will anyway. Gary Stead
feeling questions around his continued employment as black Caps coach,
which is pretty wretch considering what he's.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Achieved design cricket and I when we get to that point,
we'll have discussions around what it means for me and
for them in the future. And we're not at that
stage of finalizing anything yet, so I'm sure when we do,
then you guys will be best and our.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Calm collected mild mannered, nice work coach man Mountain Range.
That's the proper to Mighty Williams has been studying his
in zeer how to deal with the media, handbooks and downs.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I'd say a lot of learnings. You know, there's a
a new coaching team. Last few boys left and it's
exciting for I guess us. It's our time now and
we want to build on the legacy. And we've learned
a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
And the ab team is said to be named. We
run about twelve at thirty tomorrow morning at New Zealand
time and what forget.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
The riffs call sports today.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
It's ten minutes after seven AJS PTTEL on the show.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Aj Is of course will be part of the team
that hopefully take on and take Abart India in Mumbai,
that game starting roughly five o'clock tomorrow afternoon. With the
pending you'd expected to be okay at wen Kenny, he
joins us. Now, and look, it's a simple old game
when it comes to beating the opposition. I suppose the
(05:00):
trick here after two consecutive victories, is again keeping it
simple as welcome. I hope you'll over complicating this.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
No, I mean, it's it's really you know, we know
it's going to be a challenge again and we know
how good India are at home, so it's always going
to be tough and they're always going to be coming
out firing. So yeah, it's about kind of continuing to
do the good stuff that we did and building on
this stuff that probably wasn't so great.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So what wasn't so great? I mean you started it,
of course I'm going to finish it. What wasn't so great?
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I think, I mean for me personally especially, I think,
you know, continuing to build on that consistency with the
ball and stuff like that, and.
Speaker 8 (05:40):
I think a bit of luck goes a long way
in this game as well.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
But I think we've you know, shown some real character
with I guess our batting aspect as well, and batting
in tough conditions in India. Our batters have come out
firing shots and played some you know, top knocks, and
it's really about continuing to do that and continuing to
have that mindset of you know, being aggressive and being
positive and putting you know, some some runs on the
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board and that's I suppose a positive but it's also
then kind of capitalizing on those moments as well and
turning those partnerships into into big ones.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Mindset extremely important.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But when you suggest, like we'll take the Indians onto
their own game, hey, people go, really you sure about that?
But I didn't see them overly perturbed about what they
were bringing to the exchange.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
It was what you guys were doing.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, the mindset has
probably shifted a little bit, I guess in the in
the camp in terms of batting and batting in these conditions,
and you're seeing guys take on more I suppose if
you looked at it from the outside, it probably look
like harh risk options. But these are options that guys
are practicing day and day out, so they're not necessarily
high risks for the individual. And it's guys taking on
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the options that are strong and suited to them and
taking the game on that way. And it's it's been
really positive to see and obviously like sometimes you're going
to fail, but it's about kind of continuing to trust
in that work and continuing to back that ability to
really play those positive shots and have that tent from
the word go.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Watching Mitchell Santana do what Mitchell Santana did. And knowing
him like we do, he's hardly going to go into
the shed up and goes, hey, check me out, bro,
He's going to go that work okay, And you didn't
have the greatest of success, but an important part of
the holding pattern do you look at Mitchell and go,
what are you doing that I'm not doing right now?
(07:28):
What did you learn from him?
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Ah?
Speaker 7 (07:30):
Well, I mean I think he showed what, you know,
having good control on a surface, especially a surface as
a system, you can do. But also it's kind of
understanding that you know, he's on top of the world
and he's bowling phenomenally at the moment, and he's got
great rhythm. So it was my role at the other
end and make sure, I guess I kept supporting him
and making sure that we're tying out both ends so
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that way he can continue to attack from the other
And sometimes you have to take a back seat, and
you know.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
It's how you really have to operate.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
I guess it's really about team performances in this part
of the world.
Speaker 8 (08:02):
And you know, yes, obviously individually he.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
Had a phenomenal outing and he bowled exceptionally well.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
But I thought as a whole. The guys did.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Their roles quite well in terms of you know, myself
and GP from the other end holding and then chipping
in bits and pieces. But yeah, I guess you know,
he was phenomenal and had an amazing game and I think,
you know, you can't take that away from him. He
bolted exceptionally with great control and his guyle and everything
like that. Everything he loved to see as a spinner.
He had it all and it was just brilliant to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Came out of the blue for a lot of people
when you've been around, even though what he's like, you've
seen him and did the hugely surprise you that it'd
have this effect in the red bull game when the
white ball game is basically where he's made his name.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And were there any hints early on in the B Saget.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
I don't think within the environment, I don't think it
comes as too much of a surprise if I'm honest, like, yeah,
he's obviously you know, he's been crafted in the white
ball game and he's been phenomenal in the white ball arena.
But he's always had the attributes to be a very
good spinner in terms of Test cricket and you know,
having more opportunities and more game time. I guess he's
just figuring out what his method is and we saw
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it last game, like what he's capable of. So it's
just about, you know, for us as spinners, it's about
getting opportunities and it's about growing from those opportunities and
figuring out, you know, what our method is as individuals.
I mean it's different for everyone. And bowling in the nets,
he's exceptional who puts a lot on the ball. He's
got great ball control, and he's got all the skills to.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Be, you know, a Test spinner.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
It's just you know, obviously getting those opportunities over and
over again for all of us. And yeah, I don't
think too many people in the camp were surprised, to
be honest with you. It look from the outside it
looks like he hasn't had that much success. But also
if you watch closely in a lot of those other games,
he was I guess, fulfilling the opposite role and he
was probably being the holding person and holding the other
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end while we could attack from the other side. So
it just kind of goes backwards and forwards, and it's
about us as a unit. You know, continuing to perform
and I guess putting performances out there so we can
put our team in a position to win a game just.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Out of your thirty sixth birthday and you're kind of
playing a home game in Mumbai, does that still carry
a lot of weight for you?
Speaker 8 (10:14):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, I love Mumbai.
Speaker 7 (10:17):
I mean it's definitely a second home for me, and
I spend a lot of time in Mumbai, so there's
always quite special being back here. But to have the
opportunity to play here more is quite exciting, and obviously
there'll be probably a little bit more pressure, I guess
coming back last time it was kind of, you know,
just exciting to be in Mumbai and playing Mumbai. But
(10:37):
I guess this time around there will probably be a
little bit more added pressure for certain reasons.
Speaker 8 (10:42):
But yeah, no, it's always cool to be in Mumbai
and playing Mumbai. But it's certainly quite hot at the moment.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'd expect that completely understandable and when you go back there,
Because I had an Indian resident call me a couple
of weeks ago on air and we're talking about why
it's so hard to actually be India in their own
backyard and he goes mad. I'm an Indian, but I
go home every couple of years and he goes. It
takes me a week to get used to the place,
and I come from there. It's something quite extraordinary. It's
really hard to actually to settle into. You guys will
(11:09):
probably be settled by now, i'd suggest, all though Thecals
might be giving a wee bit of grief. Are you
feeling that energy from everybody?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Not really.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
I mean, obviously everyone's very passionate about cricket over here,
but they also, you know, they also respect good performances,
I guess, and I think they also appreciate how difficult
it is to be India and India and you know
that we've gone out there and done something quite special,
So I think they respect that.
Speaker 8 (11:33):
But they get around the end team, no doubt about it.
I guess. For us, it's about now we're at a
new venue, and it's really about.
Speaker 7 (11:40):
I guess, acclimatizing to the conditions again and adapting to
what we are going to face. And it'll be interesting
to see what this wicket brings and how it plays,
and then it's about us adapting to that. And I guess,
you know, taking positive options based on that surface.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
What's it going to do? One kitty, what's it like?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Do you have any idea how it's going to respond,
how it's going to react.
Speaker 7 (12:01):
I think it'll certainly have a bit more pace in
the surface from the last wicket and definitely have a
bit more bound because it's predominantly red soil, which tends
to have those two attributes. And then it'll be interesting
to see how much it really turns. I mean looking
it's looking pretty dry at the minute, and it'll be
interesting to see how it kind of looks closer to
game time. And also this heat that things can change
(12:22):
very very quickly and that moisture kind of comes out
of the surface very quick.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
So it's just yeah, I guess for us, it's.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
Making sure we adapt from session de session and day
to day and I guess take up the challenges that
are presented to us.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
As far as the health of the side goes, I.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Believe there's a question mark.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Maybe still have a Matt Henry and Mitchell Santra as
well to day where are they standing at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm presuming you've got a medical degree and you can.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
Fil on the details tell, to be honest with you,
I mean, they both bold and better today, so I
can't really give you too much.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
I think the medical staff will probably have a bit
more andfro on that.
Speaker 7 (13:01):
Yeah, but obviously they're keeping a close eye on both
of them and seeing, you know, how they fear go
into this one. But yeah, well I'm not one hundred
percent sure, if I'm completely honest with you, but hopefully
all things going well.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
And they're both kind of fit and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Well, I know something you do know even about that's yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
How's you? How's your d how are you feeling? How's
your heat space?
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Yeah, I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
I mean, you know, it's always exciting to play Teestcrupt
for New Zealand and having those opportunities to represent your
country is always quite special. So I think every time
you get the opportunity to do that, it's quite amazing.
And I guess for me to be back in Mumbai
and be in India is pretty cool as well. I mean,
you know, being in the country of my birth but
also the city of my birth now is pretty surreal,
(13:45):
to be honest with you, And I remember last time
I was here, I couldn't believe that I was here,
and I guess I have the same feeling coming back
this time around. If I'm honest, I didn't think i'd
ever get another opportunity to play here again. So it's
actually quite exciting to kind of be back here and
you know, have the prospect of getting out there again.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Jeez, you've done so well the whole time. I've been
chatting and even talked about the elephant in the room.
Come on, mate, you must have fond memories ten for
one hundred and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Come on, bro.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
Yeah, certainly fond memories, obviously, But at the same time,
the game didn't really kind of pan out the way
that we would have liked.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
I guess.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
I guess that's the other thing I always tend to
look at, as you know, I guess the results. You know,
when you take fifers and your team's winning, it's always
quite cool, and when, yeah, when it doesn't quite go
your way, it kind of probably doesn't feel as good.
But in saying that, I can't lie and say that,
you know, taking ten workers in the game is not
satisfying it. I think it's the epitomy of the game,
(14:40):
and you can't really, you know, not that feeling. But
at the same time, I mean to be honest, I
still probably don't really comprehend it, and I probably won't
until I've kind of finished my career off. It's a
weird thing to say, but it's kind of hard to
really describe really in that that feeling because I guess
you never expect something like that to happen or achieve
something like that.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Nobody did like it, Kula, But tell, I mean, really
quite extraordinary. But I'm sure you'll park that You'll get
amongst and hopefully completely whitewashed the Indians. This could be
a magnificent five days, four days, three days of Test cricket.
No just for tell, never a chore speaking to you,
(15:21):
get a marksman, enjoy yourself.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You hear it from the biggest names and sports men.
Have your say on eighty Sports Talk or more on
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
Talks it bey Ajz Patel there one of only three
men in history to pick up ten wickets in an
innings in Test cricket. Coom black Laker Patel extraordinary Back
there now at the scene of the crime from a
couple of years ago. It's nice to hear as well
that he still really hasn't settled with it yet. Maybe
when he gets you know, old and gray, he might go, well,
it was kind of cool, such measured, calm character. He's been,
(15:56):
could you say, treated poorly by the selectors. I still
entirely sure that the spin bowlers in New Zealand don't
tend to be given the link the rope to string
themselves up with, do they? But his return, he's come back,
he gets another crack. We see what the Santana claus
has done. So maybe the Twins spin has come into
(16:16):
action and you spin the Indians against Sorry, the black Caps,
I've got no contribution to this can outspin the Indians
again as Thanks so much for joining a couple of
text on that before we open the lines for your calls.
One hundred and eighty ten eighty Darcy, I've listened to
you for two decades. Wow, it really has been that long.
(16:41):
I can't wait to hear Ben Mallory again.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Thanks Kevy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You did see me a bottle of line ten fifteen
years ago, didn't you. I've still got it. No, I
haven't lasted half an hour. I don't think it lasted
when I go out to the studio and.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
This Texas says.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
What a well spoken guy to tell is we need
more of him. Bring on the spin twins. It's not
unusual in cracket, though, is it really? Buy and large
cricketers are reasonably smart, reasoning intelligent, reasonably well spoken individuals,
so it's a joy to get them on the wireless
(17:17):
have a chat. There's been a couple that haven't been.
But I'll just let that sleeping dog lie because it's
no good for anyone if I bring it up right
talk back time. I adde hundred eighty ten eighty free
fire number nationwide in text nineteen nineteen. But I much
tried you called I one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We played a clip. When I say we, I mean
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me played a clip before, and I play this back
to you. This is Gary Stead, the black Caps coach,
the highly successful black Caps coach, feeling a question around
his job prospects as the black Caps coach.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
His response.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Designed cricket and I when we get to that point,
we'll have discussions around what it means for me and
of them in the future. And we're not at that
stage of finalizing anything yet, so I'm sure when we do,
then you guys will be first and are Can.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You hear in his voice the tone underneath and going,
oh shut up, really get out? Have you got something
else to ask?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Unerstandaby?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He's crecit than I haven't quite reached the stage where
ready to go to get it in, screaming on the inside. Gimmy,
it's a credit, So listen to this. No, it's not
anyone else's voice, it's mine. First Test series, Gary Stead
twenty eighteen. We took over from Mike Hessen two one,
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trying for way to Pakistan in the UAE. Year later,
coached the black Caps to a World Cup final, the
second and succession after losing the twenty decider, and I
was horrible.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I was there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
In twenty twenty one, the black Caps won the inaugural
World Test Championship. He was the coach a few months
later the final of the T twenty World Cup in
the UAE. So led the black Caps to world finals
in all three forms of the game. First person to
coach the New Zealand men's team to the mark of
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the number one Test side. There have been some down points,
but generally it's great and what's just happened recently, I
coached the Black Caps to an Ourai series win against
in India. You don't do that. He's really good at
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what he does. He's got the ear of his players.
They listen to him, he's got the respect. He doesn't
overstate his case or its cause. So the question here,
when they do well, everyone lords the players. It's not
unusual in sport. When they do terribly, everybody attacks the coach.
(20:06):
It as a guess that Gary Steed's the best cricket
coach New Zealand's ever had. Fight with me, oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. We don't give him the
jew credit?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Why is this?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeh, there's times they've fallen over against Australia away Afghanistan's
theories wasn't great, that was terrible, Sorry Sri Lanka. But
as a whole, what extraordinary success this guy has had.
Why does he not get the traction that other coaches
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have got? Why is he still is it fair to
say an outlier and popularity in the world of cricket.
Tell me about Gary Stead? Why hasn't he given due credit?
Because you've got to say, results wise, he's the best
we've ever had twenty seven minutes after seven Sports Talk
Care and News Talk zb OH eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty, or you can flipping your text nineteen
to nine to two. That is z b z B.
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I don't even want it.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
The right call is your call on eight eighty Sports
Talk call on your home of sports news.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Talk, much better version. Thank you for swatting that earworm.
(21:35):
Good work, ants Milica to past seven Sports Talker and
the News Talks ab Ben Malla to join the program
fifteen twenty minutes or so. As most of the West
Coast celebrate Dodgers picking up the eighth World Series, got
that sort of New York this afternoon. Quite the match
talk more with being about that, celebrations who won, why
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and how they're still coming up here and now though
cricket and I'm still fascinated. All right, I'll put my
hand up here. I'll be completely honest around this. When
the team does do badly, a plainly, you question the figurehead,
right because it's easier to pile blame on one person
than eleven, and I think predominantly that comes from selection issues.
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Why on earth did you do that? If someone doesn't
do particularly well, He never overreacts this guy Gary Steed,
He don't huh, all right, he's these the black Knight,
your chopper's leg off.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
This is just a flesh wound. Doesn't bother them.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
He's very calm and he's plainly got the ear of
all of his players now listen to when they respect him.
And yet things aren't always going to go right and
Test cricket, but his record, it really has been phenomenal.
I'm not quite sure if he gets given the credit
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he is deserved, he may well carry on for another
few who knows, unless he's tired of traveling overseas, which
can completely understand rather onerous doing that is part of
your job. So my question of eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty don't he doesn't get the credit he's deserves.
But he's he the best coach that New Zealand men's
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cricket has ever had.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
He has to be right.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Why do we struggle to give him credit? I know
it's a bit of a long shot, but when New
Zealand won the World Test Championship, I want to say
they won what was it seven tests on the bounce
to get through there. They can do it again. They've
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got to win the next four matches. They've got to
beat India at home, and then they've got to roll
England three zip. Now that would seem extraordinary and outrageous,
but based on the talent and the momentum, even though
momentum can we stop? Mean we know it can be stopped.
Is that too much of a stress or a stretch
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to think that New Zealand can't roll in and actually
achieve this again? The team has dramatically changed into the
last World Test Championship. Wonderful younger players coming through that
will be pivotal. Do you either remember that these two
tests up against the Indians didn't have arguably the best
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player we've ever had to put.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
On Whites.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Sitting at the back saw egg Wow. And it was
the efforts of some of the younger guys the next
level coming through here, and obviously with Mitch Sander one
of the more senior statesmen. But it shows I believe
what Gary Stead has got, what he's instilled in this
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team as far as their own self confidence. Could you
imagine picking up this side after getting rolled by Sri
Lanka basically destroying World Test Championship chances, Everything there's no
way it's going to happen. Now, they'll be lucky to
pick up one one against India, little three to pick
this team up and give them a cuddle. So it's
(25:24):
going to be okay. We'll learn what we learn, we
move on and then to achieve this arguably the most
difficult thing to do in crickets. Win a Test series
in India and it's done. I don't see them taking
the foot off the throat. I don't see them take
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the foot off the pedal. Last time I spoke of
the game and I said, look, the problem with India
is they're coming into this with I won't exactly say
fire in their belly or huge rage, but they were
not happy after being embarrassed in their own backyard and
they turned coming from a place of seething anger, which
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is not an idea way to go into any form
of sport, twisted up the decks so it worked in
their favor. Just over extended and over complicated it for themselves.
Bam beaten again, not out of the question. Iight hundred
eighty ten eighty. Where does he sit considering what stead
has done, what he has achieved with this side across
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all forms of the game. It's hard to think that
he's not the best coaches in New Zealands have cricket.
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty love to talk to
you about this. I agree or disagree nineteen ninety two.
That's the text line.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I get a couple of texts for you. This is interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Instead stands on the shoulders of Hessen. It's kind of
ironic because he's hardly a giant, is he. If you
know where that old saying comes from, you know exactly
what I'm talking about. And Hessen did great things. But
you go further on to what Steed has done right
across all forms of the game and the changing of
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the guard with some of the best players walking away,
and how he's managed that.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Got to give him credit.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
He doesn't ask for he doesn't cared, rather just be
in the background.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Couldn't bother them.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
He'd been brilliant, Sonny Wrights, just imagine what Gary Stegg
could do if New Zealand Cricket actually had money to
retain players and a good tours to New Zealand. He's
only shown us a glimpse of what he can do
as a coach, and I think that's a really relevant point, soney.
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He's yelling cricket, and I think it's fair and right
because they don't have the money have said, look it
doors open. You want to go on there and play
a bit of te twining and you want to go
out there and play in this mercenary league. Fine, go,
We're not going to stop me.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
We can't. Okay, what are we going to do? How
we work this?
Speaker 2 (27:58):
So what they've done has been necessary. I won't say evil,
but close. And Gary's managed to pick his way through
this and do what he's done so far. Hey Jamie,
how are you?
Speaker 9 (28:14):
How are you all right?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Pretty happy?
Speaker 9 (28:16):
Oh that's good. I just wanted to make a point
of Yes, I do follow a new zealing cricket and
I enjoy watching cricket. But I think most of our
teams don't put the foot on the throat like the
netballers didn't do with Australia over last night. Yeah, they
need a bit of a bit of a tech like
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like like finish it off, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, my only defense to that, Jamie, and there's many
examples of what you're saying is that that they didn't
really need to put on the throat, the foot on
the throat, because that already choked the life out of
them by winning the series.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I get three three to one.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
So you know, if it was a case when we
lose and then suddenly you lose the series, maybe then
and with the cricket team, they've already won the series.
So do they need to get them all?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, I want to see them do it, but
you know what.
Speaker 9 (29:10):
I mean, I want to see them win three is
up to be honest. I want them to like put
the foot on the throat and say, yes we are
we are a team to reckon with and we've beating
you three nil, which I was hoping for the woman
netboorders last night to do the same thing. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I think we all wanted that, and maybe there is
a degree of oh, we've got it done now we
can relax. But when you look at this one, Jamie,
they've got to win against India, then they've got to
win three consecutive Test matches at home against England, then
they go to the World Test Championship finally again. Now
I think that is enough of a carrotter, is it not?
(29:49):
To not rest on their Laurels.
Speaker 9 (29:52):
Listen, Darth. I actually love cricket, I actually love net boil,
love all sports. But I just think our New Zealand
teams don't put the last finishing point on on a
game like this, yeah this go this go four nil
or this goes three nil, because that there was confidence
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in our teams.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Right well, that used to that used to be an
all black thing, right and the all Blacks? What have
they done this year? They've proven beyond the point that
they can't do anything the last twenty minutes and became
a rugby like, what are you're doing?
Speaker 9 (30:25):
Yeah that's true, but they're real bit, they're rebuilding, They've
they've lost a few good players in the last since
the last World Cup. But give them a couple of years,
I'll come right. But I just want I just want
New Zealand teams to put the foot on the throat
when it comes to the finals and just show the world,
yes we can beat them, like all up, all games.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Relentless, that's what they need to be, absolutely relentless, no prisoners.
What's it that? Yes, you were David tiur is it
an injury guy and he looked like he had finished,
but he would never go on there and actually finish
them off. It's probably an unpopular thing to say because
two is legion, but he just didn't show that. I'm
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now it's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
All over to a word. What is a pity?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Parkers showed that early doors, then it kind of dissipated.
Now he's back doing what he does best. And gee,
I hope he gets to take on Daniel dubois man.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That'll be cool.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Twenty eight sports talker and News Talks EB Coming up next,
We're gonna check him with Ben Miller from Fuck Sport Radio,
the USA longtime American broadcast, talking about the joy in
Los Angeles, which is where he is. Let the celebration
of the random gunfire into the night sky continue up
(31:49):
next here on news Talk zb B.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Let me up.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Everybody took the Wild Wild West a stake that's un touchable,
Like the track it shit near Troll.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
I'm like a stuck to your ship.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
You're wrecked on mind and met Sich. Oddly, I was
listening to this this morning on the way to work,
because that's what us elderly people do. We find great
tracks from our past when we're young and vibrant, we
replay them again so we still pretend we're cool even
though we're not. Is there anything uncooler than a middle aged,
(32:29):
skinny white guy playing old school hip hop at the
size of a Suzuki swift.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's tragic.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Thirty four year old skinnyweight producer playing it on their
radio show.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
It is that.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh this is such a good track though California A
congratulations Dodge as well. Really quite absorbing that final game,
especially considering that new gangs are lit are going to
go up and the head. It was all over the
and come the fifth inning Bang five, whoa hold on
the Ohle narrative has changed here and they celebrate. They'll
(33:05):
still be selling obrating now. So thank you Ben mel
for joining us. If you want to hear him all
from Ben Malley, you can go to Fox Sport and
search Ben Mallory. There's a great podcast name eludes me
right now, but to par take a listen to that.
If you write into your American sport as the way
to go, he's been doing that for quarter of a century.
(33:30):
Ask Shane Cameron of tour finishes someone cdeo vehicle.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Nasty.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
But just like sometimes he had a guy in the ripes,
he had him like broken up, and he just stood
there and kind of looked a bit at his hand.
He was gone punch him again. Thanks Hans Milicix for
producing the absence Bandy Duff. My name is Darcy walder Grave.
It's been a joy, your privilege a pleasure and all
that stuff. Catch you again tomorrow from seven on News
Talks EDB.
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